Norton V4SV (2022) - FIRST RIDE!

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  • @robinperronjones5024
    @robinperronjones5024 2 роки тому +41

    I’m a Norton owner and a big fan, I know it’s well made and thought out but £44,000 for 180 hp with limited settings (not that we need all the gismos) that’s a really pricy option.

    • @Speedracer155
      @Speedracer155 2 роки тому +5

      Yes considering you can buy a Ducat V4r that will eat it for lunch! It’s outrageous especially as the world 🌎 is in economic downturn. I don’t think they’re going to make it.

    • @Speedracer155
      @Speedracer155 2 роки тому +11

      It also looks like it’s 20 yrs old in the styling, not modern at all

    • @simonwernerisaksen
      @simonwernerisaksen 2 роки тому +6

      Not to mention the weight. 193kg dry is pretty heavy.

    • @marijnkramer6897
      @marijnkramer6897 2 роки тому +2

      Just looking the numbers doesn’t do the bike justice I think.. it is realy a “road sports bike”. An when it is a lot more ridable and better use of the power, it will be faster. It can be a better bike then a V4(R). It is an “old school” new bike.

    • @stephenpenniket9976
      @stephenpenniket9976 2 роки тому +1

      @@jdahack7367 yes it does seem a lot for a mahindra. If I wanted Indian made I'd get a royal enfield. At present my Thailand made bikes are doing well

  • @Kahless911
    @Kahless911 2 роки тому +7

    For this price I can have a RSV4 for the track, an RSV4 for the road and then a Tuono for touring and still have money leftover.

  • @Smeeheeee
    @Smeeheeee 2 роки тому +23

    Nice looking and sounds great too. But 44 g’s? If they weren’t deadly serious I’d say they’re having a laugh. Why do they think the bike will sell at that price? Power? Nope. Looks? Nope. Nostalgia for the old British motorcycle industry?
    And those bikes that do sell won’t be on the road, they will all be SORN’d and in some rich ponces lounge.

    • @Teatimeted
      @Teatimeted 2 роки тому +4

      Harsh but fair :)

    • @flytoday
      @flytoday 2 роки тому +1

      plenty of boomers will want them

    • @ENLSN77
      @ENLSN77 2 роки тому

      💯

  • @MrPhilipcarter
    @MrPhilipcarter 2 роки тому +5

    Triumph also now market a 'Sportsbike for the road' in the Speed Triple 1200 RR. Similar power; same torque; lighter and semi-active suspension and yet it's £18K rather than £44k! Maybe when the $124m investment from TVS filters through the Business they can get models down to some sensible pricing.

  • @rajasekhar9840
    @rajasekhar9840 2 роки тому +7

    If the first product of Norton is like this, after being backed by TVS.
    I hope there would be some seriously good products coming out going forward in the future.

  • @BN1960
    @BN1960 2 роки тому +10

    £44k is stupid and it's the wrong segment to aim for too
    I'd have thought a naked semi-retro style will appeal much more and with sensible prices Norton could build on their immense heritage
    Then wheel out the expensive stuff in a few years once confidence in the brand is back on track
    It's not a premuim brand, despite what the marketing people think, it has a reputation for poor customer service and poor management.
    And it's that that's needing to be addressed and the only way is with solid, affordable products and reliable, solid service.
    This is going to fail, again.

    • @ENLSN77
      @ENLSN77 2 роки тому +1

      💯
      Wish I'd written this.

  • @geoff9512
    @geoff9512 2 роки тому +1

    Is the Union Jack on the trail unit wrong? It looks like they have the think/thin white lines wrong.

  • @claytonknight3078
    @claytonknight3078 2 роки тому

    You've come a long way baby. What an awesome machine, and the sound is unreal. Oh and 185 hp. What else could you possibly want, except maybe the Rotary that Hizzy made famous.

  • @davidtyrrell1573
    @davidtyrrell1573 2 роки тому +3

    Nice looking bike,but the price is way too much,unless Norton becomes more realistic with their pricing I cannot see them being around for long.

  • @gustavograna846
    @gustavograna846 2 роки тому +4

    Saludos a todos ustedes desde Uruguay, América del Sur. Excelentes vídeos y excepcional máquina. Abrazo grande.

  • @nicholaspotts8952
    @nicholaspotts8952 2 роки тому +5

    It needs to be half that price. It looks dated already and the lack of a proper electronics package is woeful. It might have worked ten years ago but now the consumer has so many better and (significantly) cheaper options (not even going to mention reliability). Shame. Wanted this to be awesome.

    • @JEEROFUKU
      @JEEROFUKU 2 роки тому

      I’d say not half, but at least 1/3 of that price. Unless they want be known as custom motorcycle builders, who has nothing to do with the mass production routine ^^

    • @nortoncommandoupgradestrav2474
      @nortoncommandoupgradestrav2474 2 роки тому

      @@JEEROFUKU Dated already. How many retro bikes are on the market?

  • @ReferenceFidelityComponents
    @ReferenceFidelityComponents 2 роки тому +8

    Rediculous price when a top spec Aprilia RSV4 can be had for about half that amount with more power and a driven track record. The cost will put most bikers off as they’ll see it as appealing to well healed toff weekend warriors. I just think that by setting the price high, their business model will alienate most people and lets face it, their reputation is so tarnished that few other than the very wealthy will ever buy one in the UK. Where do I sign for an Aprilia?

    • @nortoncommandoupgradestrav2474
      @nortoncommandoupgradestrav2474 2 роки тому +3

      Sign up at your local Aprilia dealer. No one is forcing you to buy it. Most bikers wont be able to afford it. Most bikers cant even ride whatever they ride competently so power output is largely for bragging rights in the carpark at the local cafe.

    • @ENLSN77
      @ENLSN77 2 роки тому

      💯

    • @ReferenceFidelityComponents
      @ReferenceFidelityComponents 2 роки тому

      @@nortoncommandoupgradestrav2474
      I don’t have to. I have an aprilia sat in the garage and 35 years riding says I can ride it;-). I think this buying up licenced names and marketing an unproven machine at prices so far outside of what a vast majority can afford is cynical. I’d have signed up if they’d offered a more reasonably priced affordable twin.

    • @nortoncommandoupgradestrav2474
      @nortoncommandoupgradestrav2474 2 роки тому

      @@ReferenceFidelityComponents So what is your problem? 35 years riding experience but apart from the beginners test what courses have you done? You're obviously upset but fuck knows why.

  • @barryholden5774
    @barryholden5774 2 роки тому +2

    Beautiful looking bike, definitely going to be exclusive. Wonder how it will stack up against other V4s (Ducati, Aprilia etc), or i could be missing the point of ownership of the Norton brand. Looking forward to the 'on the road' video 😀

  • @wilkins2490
    @wilkins2490 2 роки тому +4

    Hmmm. Ok, I think Aprilia might now have some competition for the best sounding bike. But, for a second lets assume that 185hp is enough...they just cant price it more expensive than the high spec Ducati's. Aprilia's and MV's. Listening to the Norton engineer, I wonder whether the lack of electronic goodies is due to getting the bike out asap ... I wish them luck, but at 44k they haven't a chance...

  • @nickthequick
    @nickthequick 2 роки тому +1

    It's a brave man who goes and buys one of these new Nortons ...

    • @TankToChest
      @TankToChest 2 роки тому

      Probably just stupid and more money than they know what to do with.

  • @veteq101
    @veteq101 2 роки тому +1

    I am a little confused, does it have Traction control and ABS but cannot be changes (a 1st) or it does not? And the Norton Rep was dancing around the question.

  • @GrumpyGam3r
    @GrumpyGam3r 2 роки тому +1

    to be fair the bike is aimed at investor's and summer biker's who like to show off there investment. personally i think it's a good show-case to build on. it's got enough power to be lively and fun ride and most importantly it's a brand that most rider's would love to see back on the road. so it will be interesting to see if they can get into the price range of other stock bikes and cc restriction's.

    • @TheOriginalCoda
      @TheOriginalCoda 2 роки тому

      Investors. Bikers. Restrictions. You've got apostrophe disease :D
      Joking aside, I do agree with what you said. I'd love to see Norton back, and viable, but I'd like to see Norton become a word that's often seen on the road, and not only in a museum.

  • @ENLSN77
    @ENLSN77 2 роки тому +3

    If i were an investor I'd insist on scrapping all the old outdated models and concepts. The reputation is tarnished. A clean slate is needed. They need to start at the bottom and build some cool starter bikes. Then progress to mid tier bikes and so on not start at the top with outrageously priced, underpowered old tech only wealthy collectors can afford.
    I love the racing history of Norton but these bikes at these prices are an insult.
    If i suddenly became in the market for a bike at this price, then this bike would definitely NOT be on the list.
    I'm Disgusted (trying not to swear) and I've just realised I've felt this way for all of the 'SG' years.

    • @TankToChest
      @TankToChest 2 роки тому

      Absolutely.
      It’s an I have money bike.

  • @senor-fa-von-dia
    @senor-fa-von-dia 2 роки тому +2

    If your selling a motorcycle for 44k you automatically know who this bike is aimed at and who it's been developed for, buying a bike for 20k seems like a big investment to me. Must be some rich people about if they know they can sell these for that price.

  • @Morris12211
    @Morris12211 2 роки тому

    Lovely looking remodeling of V4s.
    Can Mr Mcguiness expect a settlement from TVS ?

  • @lynsmith1096
    @lynsmith1096 2 роки тому +1

    Good video and first look. The bike looks really great.

  • @JEEROFUKU
    @JEEROFUKU 2 роки тому +4

    Big fan of NORTON motorcycle brand. But price wise it will be unaffordable for simply lad as I am. It’s in Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini range. Well, will stick with my Triumph Speedy. ATB🙏🏻🍀❤️

  • @frankmalone8389
    @frankmalone8389 2 роки тому +1

    44 grand...you guys got balls!

  • @faizalmohd9536
    @faizalmohd9536 2 роки тому +4

    185bhp? from 1200cc? where is the balance of 40bhp? I mean 1200cc is supposed to has a circa 225bhp right?

  • @greyanaroth
    @greyanaroth 2 роки тому

    I'm really excited for what's to come. As someone who went recently to an older bike, lacking gizmos, riding modes etc, there's something to be said for a purer motorcycling experience. Sure you're locked in to what the manufacturer thought was OK (which I'm sure you can always remap 😂) but perhaps that in itself forces you to focus more on the meat of the matter: the ride. Headline bhp figures are also a bragging point tbh. I'm curious to see how this rides on the road and stacks up viz actual lap times. That price, though, is spicy. Pls tell me the rearsets are adjustable from factory, at this price 😂

  • @PescaraProductions
    @PescaraProductions 2 роки тому

    MALLORY PARK WOOOOOOO!!!!

  • @viperq
    @viperq 2 роки тому +1

    You got to really want one at that price.

  • @UncleWally3
    @UncleWally3 2 роки тому

    This video is the closest I’ll get to one so . . . . is it okay to ride my tweaked VFR and fantasize I’m riding a Norton?

  • @rckprogrammemethods1096
    @rckprogrammemethods1096 2 роки тому +1

    The V4SV has retained the V4SS looks and many other features, but the V4SS, worth £44,000, was the limited plated run of 200. If this bike is an average production machine when placed against Ducati, Aprilia, BMW etc., the price does not make sense.
    When you look back at the sales performance of the V4SS, because it was a limited run, it sold instantly, and the secondary market pricing was almost a 50% uplift.
    TVS has allowed a toxic back story to be created with V4SS Owners and the Norton Management Team. Instead of having the V4SS (or Gen1) bikes as flagship Norton, they choose to trash talk the bike and place owners in a very dark place.
    As a V4SS owner who has invested in restoring his V4SS, I believe Norton has made a significant miss-calculation in handling the V4SS issue. I used my V4Ss in this year's Distinguished Gentleman's Ride in Barcelona; it grabbed centre stage and was featured in just about every social media post.
    Perhaps with sluggish sales performance against the V4SV, Norton may realise that supporting heritage customers will be a very positive sales tool!
    ua-cam.com/video/9is8c5Ewv1o/v-deo.html gives you a different perspective on TVS Norton

  • @bigred8438
    @bigred8438 2 роки тому +1

    is that their V4 or the Aprillia?

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  2 роки тому

      It’s their own version. I recorded a video when I visited the new Norton HQ. It’s worth a look..

  • @ragerider6283
    @ragerider6283 2 роки тому

    Nice vid & what a beautiful bike. I also tend to agree that having 185bhp (instead of 200+) & no electronics to speak of isn't a bad thing & wouldn't put me off, the price does that lol. Although it's a special thing & future classic. If I had the money I'd buy one.

  • @kiwicanuck5459
    @kiwicanuck5459 2 роки тому +9

    I would rather have a Aprilia RSV4, the Norton looks dated and lacking modern tech and way to much $$.

    • @paul-up3ul
      @paul-up3ul 2 роки тому +1

      " i'd rather have an Aprilia "

  • @HEKTIC458
    @HEKTIC458 2 роки тому +1

    Great looking bike, although I think the old/original bike looked better

  • @srmjo
    @srmjo 2 роки тому

    You asked him whether Norton manufactured the engine components. He didn't answer and you didn't pin him down.

  • @neilsolomon9149
    @neilsolomon9149 2 роки тому +1

    Made in England. ❤️

  • @bboness713
    @bboness713 2 роки тому +2

    Beautiful thing that is, it deserves to be in a museum

    • @buzzinbritain8222
      @buzzinbritain8222 2 роки тому

      Where most of them will be kept - in private museums as potential investments.......

  • @mrdygga6
    @mrdygga6 2 роки тому +1

    Why oh why do manufacturers quote dry weight of their machines? Surely the only usable figure is fully fuelled snd ready to ride. That being said, this is a nice looking bike but with the price tag, most will end up in air conditioned collections as Sunday Summer Queens.

    • @TheOriginalCoda
      @TheOriginalCoda 2 роки тому

      I prefer to use dry weight because it's a level playing field then. I roughly know that there has got to be oil, coolant, and fuel, and how much of each, and you can't help that really. I think wet weight will become more useful when we see a lot more electric bikes, because then it's quite a useful comparison.

  • @TerribleTimes
    @TerribleTimes 2 роки тому +1

    44K British sterling ! damn. . .

  • @RENIELTUBE
    @RENIELTUBE 2 роки тому +1

    44000! 44000!!!! 44 fucking Grand?

  • @MHDarlington
    @MHDarlington 2 роки тому +1

    I can’t see the market myself; £44k for something that looks nice but is surpassed by most comparable competition makes no sense to me but then I guess I’m not the target audience, being someone who has to earn the money I spend. I wish them luck though

  • @DailyDrivenBikes_1
    @DailyDrivenBikes_1 2 роки тому

    I think for the price, you should be able to ride it with the modes off as well.

    • @TankToChest
      @TankToChest 2 роки тому

      The rich bloke with no brain would crash it.

  • @brianperry
    @brianperry Рік тому

    44K !!!....Rich kids Toy...destined to be a garage queen...

  • @vector409
    @vector409 2 роки тому +1

    that panel doesn't fit well under the seat

  • @kingbourbon8618
    @kingbourbon8618 2 роки тому

    The Norton chap kept a straight face when he stated the price. The guy must be a robot with no emotions. If he did have them then he would have shown embarrassment and shame.

  • @hgm8337
    @hgm8337 6 місяців тому

    Norton's re-engineered an Aprilia, you mean?

  • @JIMWSMITH
    @JIMWSMITH 2 роки тому +1

    For 44 grand its alittle dated in tech. And wheres the bikes for the masses are they due to launch shortly? Dont understand the marketing here .

  • @tulligman
    @tulligman 2 роки тому +1

    Lovely bike,just a pity about the Union Jack on the tail which ruins it for me.

  • @indegoadult
    @indegoadult 2 роки тому

    Wow what a looker,

  • @VinayKumar-db4qz
    @VinayKumar-db4qz 2 роки тому

    I was just worried that your watch is gonna scratch the gas tank.

  • @BlackDogRocks
    @BlackDogRocks 2 роки тому +2

    44K......you can buy two RSV4

  • @bmc8989
    @bmc8989 2 роки тому

    Do members of a particular pension fund get a discount?

  • @evoemperor3776
    @evoemperor3776 2 роки тому +1

    Why does it look like it came from the early 90s

  • @johnwells8969
    @johnwells8969 2 роки тому +1

    44 thousand for a 193kg dry weight. Heavy price heavy weight I'm too poor for this

  • @paidinfullthelabel5698
    @paidinfullthelabel5698 2 роки тому

    them british love that polish billet

  • @Team-fabulous
    @Team-fabulous 2 роки тому

    44 grand!! Good luck...

  • @MegaKei1
    @MegaKei1 2 роки тому

    I like expensive and special things... If only I could afford them😔

  • @No1nate1
    @No1nate1 2 роки тому +1

    What a good looking and sounding bike. Hats off the the new owners honouring the back orders. 👍👍

    • @pauljohnson6446
      @pauljohnson6446 Рік тому

      hiya fella, they have honoured the guys who had put down deposits, but have NOT honoured the guys who unfortunately received a V4SS that they say had faults, but haven’t substantiated them, nor helped any of them, ignored them or asked them to pay another £10k on top of the £44k they already paid . . . And to say the current CEO was the director of the company who built engine that was in the original V4SS that he was head of, was flawed is hypocritical and they also employ Simon Skinner the other director with Stuart Garner who stripped customers bikes to put on other bikes for sale is nothing short of criminal . . .
      Owners of gen 1 v4SS’s just want to be tested with respect and have their concerns sorted not ignored . . . .

  • @rickseconds7676
    @rickseconds7676 2 роки тому +1

    Beautiful bike, but way too pricey!!

  • @joestrickland5153
    @joestrickland5153 2 роки тому

    More electronics on a bike at this price point

  • @Clampett01
    @Clampett01 2 роки тому +1

    Will this bike be obsolete in 10 years time? Michaels throw away comment about electrics coming in 10, 20, 50 years time might be quite prophetic in the success of Norton motorcycles. They will drop this bike once they have made enough sales to cover a chunk of the R&D? They must have a business plan that includes electric motorcycles, if not they will be another iteration of this famous name that withers on the vine.

  • @shardlake
    @shardlake 2 роки тому +2

    Looks stunning, at £44k might have to save up...

  • @tadhgoshaughnessy6612
    @tadhgoshaughnessy6612 2 роки тому +3

    this bike is definitely not worth that price . imagine in 2 years time they upgrade a bit it will cost 50 k.their nuts.if u Lok under the seat u can see the fairing isn't in line .the lights look something from the r1 but worse.ugly bike 😢😢😢😢😢😢

  • @seamusmcfitz913
    @seamusmcfitz913 2 роки тому +3

    Well....I like the seat....
    The new owners of Norton are morons.
    This will be bought by 50 year old men never to be ridden and added to their investment collection...all 5 of them.
    Panigale V4 SP comes to mind as a better option all day long.

    • @BN1960
      @BN1960 2 роки тому +2

      I'm a 50+ year old man and I wouldn't buy it

    • @ENLSN77
      @ENLSN77 2 роки тому

      @@BN1960 🤣

    • @seamusmcfitz913
      @seamusmcfitz913 2 роки тому

      @@BN1960 a sample of one proves a lot.

  • @vicsh4581
    @vicsh4581 2 роки тому +2

    44k and not even 200 bhp, lol DOA

  • @richardgregg2366
    @richardgregg2366 2 роки тому +1

    It's at least £15k overpriced - and I'm being generous I think.
    But that's not the biggest issue for me. With all the shenanigans of the previous incarnation of Norton, why in the name of all that is holy did they not come up with a new bodywork design? This alone would enable them to make a clean break rather than forever have this bike be guilty by association with the previous Norton - it's doomed to fail as a result I would sadly say...

  • @alanburton2689
    @alanburton2689 2 роки тому

    Nice looking and sounding bike but to expensive

  • @davidcolin6519
    @davidcolin6519 2 роки тому

    I do think that using Mallory Park as a track for the launch was an odd decision. Possibly the most boring track in Britain?

  • @chrisa1965
    @chrisa1965 2 роки тому

    Serious piggybank saving required for that beastie, but I would have one and ride it everywhere in all weathers (except snow and ice of course!). 😃
    Another 'sports tourer' (stick some panniers on it, tank bag). 🤣

  • @Nekminute
    @Nekminute 2 роки тому +2

    185 HP ? Pffffffff

  • @Theninjadeathhawk
    @Theninjadeathhawk 2 роки тому

    Take a shot everytime they say "engine"

  • @markrs59
    @markrs59 2 роки тому +1

    How much!!!!! Jesus christ!

  • @Reelswheelsmeals
    @Reelswheelsmeals 2 роки тому

    I’m sorry you could have a Ducati v4 sp2 for less

  • @landedzentry
    @landedzentry 2 роки тому

    08:04 I knew you'd eventually bang your watch on the tank. Have you no respect? I bet you dont slump on your bikes like that.
    06:08 I dont think "the electric era" will ever "take over" - unless vehicles are only for the rich. There's isnt the infrastructure, currently and for the future creating EVs to replace all vehicles isn't sustainable, the carbon footprint is too big for EVs en masse.
    £44k - that's okay - value is subjective.

  • @dukerider694
    @dukerider694 2 роки тому +2

    It doesn’t even look that nice really I’m not a fan !!

  • @frit450
    @frit450 2 роки тому +1

    It's a lot of money for a bike with 20 year old power!!! Or maybe they're low balling the power so they can launch a trick 200+bhp bike for another 10k that is more track focused for fools with money?!?!

  • @melvincannell9449
    @melvincannell9449 2 роки тому

    We re engineered it and it only has 180bhp i think you need to go back to the drawing board and definitely have a re think on the price as it not worth twenty grand and aint joking i own a rsv4rf le and it is an absolute masterpiece in comparison to this british made rubbish

  • @theplaguemaster4522
    @theplaguemaster4522 2 роки тому

    if this bike was 25-27k it would sell but 44k this thing will 100% fail

  • @arnoldtm31
    @arnoldtm31 2 роки тому +1

    This whole thing seems off. Cringy interview. No straight answers. No detailed specs...I don't understand the reviewers fake enthusiasm.

    • @ENLSN77
      @ENLSN77 2 роки тому +1

      Hopefully we'll see an honest review from another publisher that rips this bike to shreds.

  • @timsgta
    @timsgta 2 роки тому

    And I thought Ducati was expensive.

  • @Mo-xx9gg
    @Mo-xx9gg 9 місяців тому

    Why? So many better bikes for less than half the price!

  • @stevebenson1110
    @stevebenson1110 2 роки тому

    Yes it's a nice bike and I like the brand and want it to succeed but £44k for bike is madness, yes they have invested heavily but you can't recover the investment in one go. Greedy.

  • @billmillar8148
    @billmillar8148 2 роки тому +1

    44k not for me

  • @flytoday
    @flytoday 2 роки тому +1

    something for boomers

  • @fredcherry9297
    @fredcherry9297 2 роки тому

    44grand are you mad

  • @steveharvey4036
    @steveharvey4036 2 роки тому

    Primo

  • @DeadRoman
    @DeadRoman 2 роки тому

    Yeah, thats a big no.

  • @gigiiggi7138
    @gigiiggi7138 2 роки тому

    So, less than one minute in and you're playing irritating music rather then letting us listen to the bike? Do you take tablets to get like that? Bye grrr.

  • @williamfischer3990
    @williamfischer3990 2 роки тому

    I’m sorry but for 44,000 pounds, that dashboard is pathetic.

  • @andremichau2455
    @andremichau2455 2 роки тому

    No.

  • @stuartsmith9963
    @stuartsmith9963 2 місяці тому

    Turn that fuckin music off!!!!

  • @TankToChest
    @TankToChest 2 роки тому +2

    Nice Amazon Turn Signals.

  • @TankToChest
    @TankToChest 2 роки тому

    Wish y’all didn’t screw over John McGuinness at Isle Of Man 🇮🇲

    • @richardpinchin3749
      @richardpinchin3749 2 роки тому

      John McGuinness was better off riding a more powerful bike.

  • @TankToChest
    @TankToChest 2 роки тому

    Norton we’re taking away your big bike privileges. You have to make commuter bikes now.

  • @TankToChest
    @TankToChest 2 роки тому

    Trying to appeal to the middle class with a well above upper class bike.
    Good luck.

  • @MHDarlington
    @MHDarlington 2 роки тому +1

    I can’t see the market myself; £44k for something that looks nice but is surpassed by most comparable competition makes no sense to me but then I guess I’m not the target audience, being someone who has to earn the money I spend. I wish them luck though