Thank you for the clip! Massis has a beautiful voice, and she sings the aria very expressively, conveying the character's inner sadness and anger. She also does a pretty good job with Mozart's fiendish triplets, although there were a few times where she held the first note of a triplet figure a hair too long.
FOURTEEN YEARS OLD!!!!!! more than 200 years later, a 14 year old's work is being produced in professional opera houses in Europe What a damn genius Wonderful!
2) the "pe" is 5:25 (2nd half of Bar 113) to 5:30 (start Bar 117), 14 triplets (42 notes) in 3½ Bars; F5 (698.46 Hz) occurs 6 times (approx 5.252, 5.255, 5.260, 5.264, 5.267, 5.269); the 2nd and 6th would be the most likely candidates, yet I do find (thx to you) a tiny lag aroung the note you pointed (3rd, 5:26). I would never have noticed it: you are extremely precise! Globally I find this awesome music beautifully and flawlessly rendered here. Wed 11 Feb 2009 00:17 GMT
Ce spectacle date de 2006, où il a été enregistré à Salzbourg. Ses partenaires sont : Roberto Sacca (Lucio Silla) Monica Bacelli (Cecilio) Veronica Cangemi (Lucio Cinna) Julia Kleiter (Celia) Stefano Ferrari (Aufidio). Les forces de la Fenice de Venise sont dirigés par Tomas Netopil. La mise en scène est signée Jürgenn Flimm : le tout fait est un très recommandable chez Deutsche Grammophon !
You apparently address the 2 "la pe - - - - - na" vocalises: 1) the "pe" is 2:48 (2nd half of Bar 55) to 2:52 (start of Bar 58), has 10 triplets (30 notes) in 2½ Bars; G5 (783.99 Hz) occurs 5 times (approx 2.507, 2.513, 2.516, 2.522, 2.525). The 1st is near "2:50", the 2nd and 4th would be the most likely affected musically when artists choose to lag. But here I perceived no such lag at all. (Wikipedia "Scientific pitch notation" and "Triplet notation") Wed 11 Feb 2009 00:16 GMT
Can anyone tell me why my comment beginning with "I'm glad that you hear" was marked as spam? The post directly relates to the rhythmic issues and overall quality of the video, and I don't see how such a post could possibly be construed as spam.
By any chance, could you upload Massis' "Parto, m'affretto." I would love to hear that aria. Lucio Silla is one of my favorite operas, definitely my favorite of Mozart's early operas. Despite the horrible libretto, Mozart was able to write quite a beautiful and innovative score. Certain arias already hint at his mature style.
Are you asking which notes of the triplet figures were held a bit too long? At 2:50, she paused a little on the G above the staff, rather than singing all three notes of the triplet figure evenly and moving directly to the next triplet. She also paused a bit when singing the F at the top of the staff at 5:26. For the most part, Massis' triplets were smooth and fluent. She definitely has a secure florid technique, and the slight hesitations that I mentioned are only minor rhythmic flaws.
The G didn't sound any longer than the other notes in the triplet figure? As I listen to the passage, I can clearly hear that the G was held slightly longer than the Eb and the F that preceded it. I don't think that the 2nd and 4th 's would have to be affected (especially since the later Gs are not part of the same triplet figure that the first G occurred in). A performer might hold one note a little too long, but manage to recover and sing the rest of the notes evenly.
I listened, eyes on score (see my post of 17:47 GMT), and found no occurrence of what you say. Please could you point it precisely (by time into the video and/or Bar number in the DME score). TIA, Sun 8 Feb 2009 17:50 GMT
Mozart was 16 when he wrote this. Absolutely incredible!
A brilliant perfomance by Annick Massis too :)
Thank you very much Merlin 1940
for your answer.
It is very nice aria,one of the best I have heard in life.
Regards.
Marite.
Thank you for the clip! Massis has a beautiful voice, and she sings the aria very expressively, conveying the character's inner sadness and anger. She also does a pretty good job with Mozart's fiendish triplets, although there were a few times where she held the first note of a triplet figure a hair too long.
FOURTEEN YEARS OLD!!!!!!
more than 200 years later, a 14 year old's work is being produced in professional opera houses in Europe
What a damn genius
Wonderful!
16! He composed it 1772 :)
But he was a genius!
Brava Mdme Massis - beautifully sung!!
2) the "pe" is 5:25 (2nd half of Bar 113) to 5:30 (start Bar 117), 14 triplets (42 notes) in 3½ Bars; F5 (698.46 Hz) occurs 6 times (approx 5.252, 5.255, 5.260, 5.264, 5.267, 5.269); the 2nd and 6th would be the most likely candidates, yet I do find (thx to you) a tiny lag aroung the note you pointed (3rd, 5:26). I would never have noticed it: you are extremely precise! Globally I find this awesome music beautifully and flawlessly rendered here.
Wed 11 Feb 2009 00:17 GMT
Ce spectacle date de 2006, où il a été enregistré à Salzbourg.
Ses partenaires sont :
Roberto Sacca (Lucio Silla)
Monica Bacelli (Cecilio)
Veronica Cangemi (Lucio Cinna)
Julia Kleiter (Celia)
Stefano Ferrari (Aufidio).
Les forces de la Fenice de Venise sont dirigés par Tomas Netopil. La mise en scène est signée Jürgenn Flimm : le tout fait est un très recommandable chez Deutsche Grammophon !
I like this aria so much...
Could someone tell me what is the name of it ,Please?
Thank you very much
Marite
You apparently address the 2 "la pe - - - - - na" vocalises:
1) the "pe" is 2:48 (2nd half of Bar 55) to 2:52 (start of Bar 58), has 10 triplets (30 notes) in 2½ Bars; G5 (783.99 Hz) occurs 5 times (approx 2.507, 2.513, 2.516, 2.522, 2.525). The 1st is near "2:50", the 2nd and 4th would be the most likely affected musically when artists choose to lag. But here I perceived no such lag at all.
(Wikipedia "Scientific pitch notation" and "Triplet notation")
Wed 11 Feb 2009 00:16 GMT
Can anyone tell me why my comment beginning with "I'm glad that you hear" was marked as spam? The post directly relates to the rhythmic issues and overall quality of the video, and I don't see how such a post could possibly be construed as spam.
By any chance, could you upload Massis' "Parto, m'affretto." I would love to hear that aria. Lucio Silla is one of my favorite operas, definitely my favorite of Mozart's early operas. Despite the horrible libretto, Mozart was able to write quite a beautiful and innovative score. Certain arias already hint at his mature style.
Are you asking which notes of the triplet figures were held a bit too long? At 2:50, she paused a little on the G above the staff, rather than singing all three notes of the triplet figure evenly and moving directly to the next triplet. She also paused a bit when singing the F at the top of the staff at 5:26. For the most part, Massis' triplets were smooth and fluent. She definitely has a secure florid technique, and the slight hesitations that I mentioned are only minor rhythmic flaws.
Deze scene is opgenomen tijdens de Salzburger Festspiele van 2006 in Venetie
The G didn't sound any longer than the other notes in the triplet figure? As I listen to the passage, I can clearly hear that the G was held slightly longer than the Eb and the F that preceded it. I don't think that the 2nd and 4th 's would have to be affected (especially since the later Gs are not part of the same triplet figure that the first G occurred in). A performer might hold one note a little too long, but manage to recover and sing the rest of the notes evenly.
I listened, eyes on score (see my post of 17:47 GMT), and found no occurrence of what you say. Please could you point it precisely (by time into the video and/or Bar number in the DME score). TIA,
Sun 8 Feb 2009 17:50 GMT
Austrian Music :)
What a ridiculous production. I pity modern opera singers who have to perform under such trashy circumstances.
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