Thanks dude! Its been fun making this little series I've been blown away with how its turned out really didn't expect it to end up so quality! Thanks for your comments man! Much appreciated!👊🙌🙏🏼
Great video. Just bought myself this little quad after a lot of research and it’s great to see it being modded and it’s capabilities pushed further. Good job.
@@Stevieboyfpv I got myn too and it’s killing it ! I just don’t like the radio and the goggles that came in the RTF kit and I am looking for upgrading them. Any advise of what can I get for freestyle ?
@@aymen3962 im flying eacgine 200d goggles which are superb for the price the 300d are more expensive but even better👍if your on a budget and don't mind box goggles the 800d are superb!
The first part of the video is an excellent tutorial on how to repair a ripped off ufl as well. Had one tear off of a crossfire nano and this will save me $30. Thanks
I would definitely suggest Zip tieing the antenna to the top plate because if you pull the antenna to the right side it will put a lot of tension on your antenna connector 😁👍
No dispute on that one I ended up putting a thinker zip tie as the antenna support instead ander the shrink wrap and reducing the height and connecting it to the top plate 👍
Another bang-up job. Much appreciate your experiments. I had been contemplating some upgrades to my TinyHawk II FreeStyle. I’ve gotten my Crossfire kit in, and will be putting one in my original TH2FS, after I finish my 2nd one, which I’m now building from scratch. Thank you, keep up the great work!
@@thraxexotics3406 The motors are a 3 bolt which makes them a problem to upgrade unless you change the frame. But changing the battery lead to an xt30 connection with thicker gauge wire will help performance and the vtx antenna upgrade in this vid for video feed distance and then one of my rx antenna upgrades will help from one of my other videos 👍
Your videos are an inspiration. I've got a Tinyhawk II Freestyle a few weeks ago, and if I ever dare to upgrade it with my shaky soldering skills, I'll be sure to watch your videos on how to do it. Thanks!!!!
Amazing comment! Thankyou very much for the kind words! 🙌🙌🙏🏼 very happy to hear all that 😁 I made them to try and help people progress without all the expensive mistakes i made learning to do it😅 flying these little beauties is so free'ing and rewarding 😁 happy flying!!😎
Great video, you make the soldering look so easy. I have a lttle experience soldering and thought I would be able to follow right along and ended up with an epic fail. Lesson learned though lol. Soldering this connector is not for the faint of heart, very tricky stuff.
Thanks! Yeh having both the gear and practice is deff necessary but you can always solder the antenna directly do away with the ufl connector to make it level 3 difficulty instead of 10
@@Stevieboyfpv yes, but when I was removing the uhf connector that I did not get soldered on correctly, it ended up removing the signal connection solder joint all together. Big bummer for sure.
@@ryzurrin mmmm maybe watch my vtx video then so you can fit a better vtx transmitter and save the board that will be cheaper than a new board aswell 👍
@@Stevieboyfpv will do! You have some awesome vids, just wish this stuff was half as easy as you make it look lol. Have you had epic fails while learning?
@@ryzurrin of course thats why I made the vids to try and help others not make the same mistakes I did, I've killed a few components racking up the pounds along the way painfully! Thays why I made this series so the mistakes could be made and skills honed with this little guy which is massively cheaper before moving onwards and upwards in the hobby to the bigger stuff👍
Thanks very much! I've tried to cover a few different modifications in my videos now I'm very happy with how well it performs now. Really glad you found it informative 👍 🙏🏼
All my small EMAX products have VTX issues. You should also replace the nylon stand-offs with metal. Mine "exploded" during a normal Betaflight Air Mode landing after only a few flights. The nylon stand-offs stripped out and lost half of the screws.
thanks! i actually did what i said and used a thicker zip tie which i trimmed a little shorter, having it up above the battery is part of the point for better reception but at signal sacrifice you could do that.
I show in this video the original dvr footage before the antenna upgrade and in the other videos in the series I show the before and after on all the upgrades it would be a bit of a mission to undo all my upgrades to take some dvr footage maybe watch my other vids or watch someone else's stock drone vids on UA-cam and youl see the difference. Thanks for watching!👍
This is awesome video I am definitely gonna have to save it I recently ordered one so I could use it recording ice racing. This is a definite upgrade that I'm going to have to do.
Great video. Have just bought a THF2 and waiting for some decent weather before taking it out. I noticed in your other video where you showed the 3d printed feet / pad upgrade. Do you know where to buy these pads as the ebay seller link in your other video does not appear to sell these any more?
Thanks! His names Lee message him tell him I sent you and he will make you some 👍i will give you the thingyverse link to send him in case he doesn't have it anymore
@@SchurrAquatics an omni is multi directional antenna and a patch is directional so by having both on tour goggles you have the best of both worlds for signal
Hey stevie! Thanks a lot for the tutorial! I have a question about the vtx. When i put the output power to 200mw, the vtx signal becomes weaker than on 25mw. This was before and after adding the lollipop. Do you have any idea as to what causes this? I also have a happymodel elrs receiver on it.
Unless you have a bad earth or bad connection somewhere that is strange! Check through oscars list see if any of that helps oscarliang.com/connect-vtx-fpv-camera/
@@Stevieboyfpv I learned to solder and have succesfully been able to solder the antenna to the TH 2 Freestyle. I cut it shorter to fit it in the case but it seems i have the same range as with the old antenna. I do use the stock th 3 goggles with the stock antennas as the foxeer rhcp antennas for the goggles haven’t arrived yet. Are there any settings you have to change in the betaflight?
@@Stevieboyfpv thanks a lot for helping :). I did unlock the 200mw. I did forget to mention i was testing the distance indoors in my house through walls as it was very cold and didn't have the time yet to test outdoors. I thought the th2 with lollipop antenna would be a little stronger with penetrating indoors aswell but now the th 2 freestyle with lollipop vtx has the exact same range as my tinyhawk 3 on the stock vtx antenna so i think it will have the same outdoors. Maybe its just the stock antennas on my tinyhawk 3 box goggles. I guess i'm a little scared to lose the signal quickly when i will be flying outdoors tomorrow so i thought to ask first before sending it into oblivian.
Hey buddy what soldering iron and tip do you use, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with how small the connections are on the tinyhawk and not sure what to buy. Thanks in advance
Hi jonny, i use a zd-929c adjustable soldering iron with various size tips depending on the job. If you are going to get into fpv a good soldering iron is a must. I use a soldering iron Sponge Brass wool Tip refresher crystals Solder paste All to keep my tips in good condition as this is essential! I use flux core solder and good quality soldering makes a big difference so don't buy the cheapest. I would advise buying a soldering practice pad and watching tutorials to get comfortable. Last thing you want is to kill your quad because you made an avoidable mistake. 👍
Loved your video! I'm here a bit late, but just getting into my TinyHawk 2 Freestyle! I'm looking for upgrades and changes, what do you suggest? I got the package deal including their cheap rc and goggles - what would you suggest I change first, for the best experience in video quality and overall flying capabilities?
Have you watched all my upgrade vids? Cheapest and biggest difference would be xt30 connector and going to proper 2s batteries have to change charger aswell though next vtx antenna and antennas for goggles and unlock the vtx power to 200mw cough! If you in a country that its lega to 👍
@@Stevieboyfpv I haven't! I just saw this one as I was doing some research - I'll go check them out! And I don't know of it's legal, I'm in the states. I'll look up the xt30 - whatever that is - and the batteries! I'm sure I'll have more questions here in a little, thanks for the help!
@@Stevieboyfpv so I had another question for you, I have a separate tinyhawk that I think I fried something - I flew it after it rained, and crash landed in the wet grass. When I turn it on it doesn't do anything, but the vtx has a green light. Do I need a new fc? Should I buy the same fc from emax, or look for a new upgraded option?
@@theexperienced5457 yeh you've prob fried the esc side of the board. To fit the frame you would want the same aio flight controller or you would be entering a world of adaptor plates or different frames
It looks so easy when you do it, I only wish I had the skills to do this myself, going the safer route on my feestyle v1 (got crap 25mw shitter vtx from Emax storage of shit parts that needed to be used) of just replacing the VTX with TBS Nano, and putting ExpressLRS also in there, will use the same power sources the ones beneth the main board to power the VTX and receiver...If I fail its like 170$ down the drain...
I want to do this to my tinyhawk f2 but I’m not sure how to find the attena and all the accessories you got for it. Could you put a link on where to get then
This is on the original board the tiny came with. You can add the antenna directly or with the plug. The antenna directly is a lot easier by removing the plug and exposing and separating the ground sheath and active core and direct soldering. Practice till your confident with your soldering iron if your not already proficient 👍
You have to buy the the little ufl connector I soldered to the board separately if that's what you mean. But you can cut off the connector from the lollipop and direct solder it which is an easier job by miles👍
Nice tutorial! I have done the upgrade. Got it soldered by a local electronics shop, as I did not want to risk it with such small connections. I also got a micro lolipop antena from foxeer and it all works fine if I am on 25 or 100mw but as soon as I switch to 200 the image disappears and it's just white and black lines jumping. The vtx starts flickering between the blue and green lights until i turn it down to 100 or 25mw. Do you have an idea of what may the cause be?
Is the metal plug on the antenna touching or pushing on part of the board maybe grounding out? Try taking the top plate off and re position it, check the connector has no damage inspect their solder joints to make sure its not pooled below the plug and creating a short underneath
@@Stevieboyfpv Thanks for the help! Unfortunately I can't really find anything that could be causing it. Spent some time testing. The connection does look fine and it and the drone appears to have a normal range for the 100 mw. I have tried adding another mode and setting it to 200mw but it flew quite similarly to 25mw. Maybe it is hardware locked to the 3 modes. For the most part it works fine, i just cant get it above 100mw which is weird. I have added a runcam thumb pro on it and the view looks stunning. I am looking to change the connector to xt30 but i can only find 550mw 2s 7,4V 95C batteries where i live, could these batteries work with it?
It has an internal core for the information and a latised external core for earth so I wouldn't solder it together but you can just solder the lollipop antenna to the pad the original antenna is attached to no worries. Separate the core from the grounding sheath solder the core to the single pad and the ground sheath to the 2 outer pads 👍
Thinking about buying the rtf kit for the thfs2 as my first fpv, but I’m little concerned about the integrity of the vtx and having a premature failure. Do you know anything about this issue with the vtx? Or had any issues yourself? Should I buy something else with my money or is it still worth it even if it means I gotta learn how to solder in a few months to replace the the video transmitter? Also I’ve heard the the motors on the thfs2 burn out a lot. Have you had this issue?
This is a superb starter, and I've had no issues with the vtx failing it can be unlocked to 200mw for more range. I have a string of upgrade videos for this quad. Its the perfect quad to learn all the skills needed for fpv which is why I made the upgrade series play list for it as you can learn cheaply. Learning to solder and exchange parts is an essential part of fpv droning dont fear it learn and enjoy gaining new skills and knowledge and then the freedom of fearless flying knowing your can repair your gear👍🤟
@@Stevieboyfpv thank you so much for the reply I appreciate the info. I decided that I probably need a bigger faster quad. I have a lot of land and I’m afraid I’d grow out of anything too small very quickly lol. I think I’ve landed on the iflight nazgul5 v2 5” 6s freestyle with the elrs receiver. Although 6s may sound like a bit much for my first fpv quad, I’m not a complete stranger to quads, helicopters, and rc cars and I have enough land out here I think I could figure it out. I’ve strayed away from the “kit” that way I can have a good transmitter and googles for any drone. I think the nazgul5 v2 5” 6s will be a good fit for me and be a good quad to grow into and last me a bit hopefully. Anyways think you again for the reply! You’re the man! I would love to hear what you think about my decision to go with the nazgul 5” quad instead. Also I really enjoyed all of the build videos on the tiny hawk and they got me pumped up to learn how to solder. Although I’ve decided on the nazgul5 5” I think the tiny hawk may still have a place in my collection lol I’m afraid the nazgul5 may be the first of many quads.
@@jordangrapes5072 its a great quad for sure! Just go steady its enough to kill someone. A whole lotta of fun! I have a few iflight quads and around 20 in total 😬 its very addictive. Happy flying!
@@Stevieboyfpv hahaha thank you much I’m glad you think this will be a good quad. I am very excited. My dream is to eventually have a drone with 1-2 mile range as I live on a farm and being able to fry across all the fields to check the cattle and see where they are? How much feed/hay they’ve got? Have the broke in or out somewhere? This would be a huge help for my grandpa as he is getting older and it would be a blast in the process. I’m just not quite sure how easily obtainable that kind of range is if it is and if I can do it without spending a fortune.
@@BotanicalOdyssey nice! You can avoid the uf.l plug on the tinyhawk and direct solder like the original also which is way easier. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
@@BotanicalOdyssey man you will never regret it. I did that to both of my th2s and my phantom. So much better detail and color! Oh but add a rapidfire module an omni and a patch antenna and you will fly places you never dared to go before. See you in the air
Hello, just à question, (my english is bad and probably someone asked) i can do this and use the emax Google in the kit and Just change the antenna ? No need change other thing? Thank you!
Yes you can add this antenna to the drone directly or with the ufl plug as shown. For best results change the antennas on the goggles to rhcp antennas one lollipop and the other a patch 👍
I added a small zip tie to the plastic part of the battery strap and the antenna, which was pretty stable. It looks like you use two capacitors instead of one, does this have any advantage?
Yeh I went with a fatter zip tie and slightly shorter in the end worked better. I've done both 2 capacitors and tried the variation of one on thr board or one on the xt30 lead and its all much the muchness tbh
I managed to break off the active part. Now what? I seemed to successfully soldering the antenna on, and has flown with it, but this morning picture broke up, and it turned out that the pad was coming of. Great upgrade indeed. Any tips on how to save it? Anywhere else on the circuit board that I can find the active connection?
Sounds like you over heated the pad causing it to release 😔 unless you can scratch off the board a little to somehow get a solder point i don't know of another way I am affraid sorry.
@@pedereskildsen good luck! Hopefully you won't have to replace the Board 🤞🙏🏼 i feel your pain ive been there, that is fpv unfortunately we learn a lot of skills...some painfully! I've spent thousands 😬
@@Stevieboyfpv Thanks. I did have to replace the board ☹. Fortunately I already had a spare from when my first TH got shredded by my robot lawnmower... (Don't fly during mowing, when not super experienced)😳
@@pedereskildsen argh! No! Thats a shame! But hey! Must of been a relief you had a spare! Some luck at least! Lawnmower aye!😬😬😬 that must of been a bad day! Enjoy being back in the air man!🤟
Hi Stevie, great video. I managed to get everything set up, but unfortunately, when I arm the quad the vtx disconnects... Resetting it by unplugging and reconnecting the battery restores the picture, but it disconnects as soon as I arm it again. Any ideas?
Sounds like you have a short or bridge happening somewhere look closely for solder touching another component or chip or the ground and live element have joined
@@Stevieboyfpv Thanks for the speedy reply mate! Well, I removed the connector and soldered another one. Checked for continuity between the relevant bits and it looks good. Powered it on and it did the same thing when arming. If I arm it, let it bug out, then press the button on the vtx to reconnect (not disconnecting the battery), it arms without disconnecting. If I connect the battery and then press the button, it doesn't work. It needed to bug out before pressing the button. After more testing, if I arm and disarm quickly, then arm again, it works fine... Strange thing happening...
@@martyn5064 make sure there are no exposed bits of wire on the wires running from the capacitor and the antenna brass plug isn't touching it or any other components
@@Stevieboyfpv After further testing: If I push down on the connector it works fine. I think it may be a dodgy antenna. I'll order another one and report back. Yeah, it's unlocked to 200mw.
Great video, I'd love to do this but have no soldering experience what so ever so don't think this is a job for me, where in the UK are you? Are you up for doing it the antenna and cross fire mod for me? Do you have an email to contact you on? Sam
would these antennas incease the range using the RTF kit? i understand that the controller and goggles are not great quality, but i assume that their range would be greater than the stock antennas on the quad. Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated!
If tou changed to an omni directional lollipop antenna on the quad and then had both an omni and a directional patch antenna on the goggles you will have better range and penetration. A great cheap upgrade, but also a 2nd hand pair if eachine 800d goggles would make a big difference. Heres a link explaining antennas more ua-cam.com/video/B4Nl_yJ_acc/v-deo.html
Would it be possible to route the antenna out back? I like to fly freestyle and I'm concerned that the antenna wire may ground components on the board.
I bought a tinyhawk, then thawk freestyle Then a mino cinewhoop new that needed repair spent loads getting it to a shop twice for them to screw it up because I was scared to screw it up, that forced me onto the soldering iron.....it wasn't the best but I fixed it. Now I have over 20 and have tutorials to help others build and fix them. If you mess it up....you fix it thats fpv so don't worry and thats the point of the tinyhawk series I created as you can learn with a small cheap drone 1st
Really really REALLY wish they had this installed from the factory. I'm about attempt this and I feel like Dr. Strange after his accident. Wish my luck...
Practice your soldering, make sure you have a good tip use the wet sponge and flux 350-380° heat and take your time, you can always not use the plug and direct solder the antenna which is easier 👍 good luck!
@@Stevieboyfpv Got the VTX antenna soldered on but managed to lift the SBUS pad when I was trying to solder the XM+. Oh well, 1 outta 2 isn't bad. Luckily I still have the original still on. SADLY, I crashed into a wall after clipping some moss and managed to bork my ESC. Looking at a new drone instead of repairing this one. GEPRC 2.5" Phantom MAYBE. Already has XM+ and a swappable VTX antenna. Just an upgraded TH2FS basically, with 3S!
@@gasser5001 ahh what a gutter! Have to be hot and fast with nonpulling on those little pads, sorry to hear that dude! Maybe still get a replacement board to keep it in the fleet! Geprc do build a great quad in my opinion 👌
Yeh if your doing the plug you want it as low as possible as you can actually melt the tiny board the plug is made from its not as bad if your going for the sheathing method of direct soldering the active element and ground
@@Stevieboyfpv What were your heat settings? That's what I'm worried about. I don't want to over do it and melt the pad underneath. I'm going to remove the original solder and anchor one side first so that I can avoid the solder getting underneath.
@@FlockofSmeagles I was at just under 300 mines a dial not digital so its not super accurate I think if you can do it with touches like I did with a slightly wet tip you should be good at 300 what you want is just enough solder on the pads on th vtx board for it to stick like a little bulge so when you tack it its not cranked at too much of an angle pitched off the 2nd ground then add a touch more when both grounds are attatched taking care not to let the solder from either ground flow into the middle linking it to the active element centre. after that attatch the active element 👍
I used a foxeer lollipop but any rhcp lollipop will work, its a uf.l connector but you can direct solder it the same as the original antenna also, you don't have to use the plug. I used companies in the uk Droneauthority and hobby rc and unmanned tech
What is that little part that the vtx plugs in to? Where can I get it? Edit: I lost the screwdriver for the drone, is can u send me a link of a screwdriver that I can use for the drone?
Do you mean the little part the antenna plugs into? That's a ufl connector You can also not use that and solder the antenna to the board directly the outer core (ground) to the 2 pads and the central (active element) to the single one the same as the original antenna. Here is where you can get some plugs though www.droneauthority.co.uk/products/u-fl-connector-5pcs?variant=35451338981448¤cy=GBP&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmPSSBhCNARIsAH3cYgYN6&ref=98p3pmza5i
These are pretty good for the price. I have no experience of the seller though. For the tinyhawk freestyle you have converted to an xt30 plug you want a 2s lipo between 450 and 600mah you can go higher if your looking for more time in the air but will sacrifice agility. And you want as higher "c" rating as possible for that consistent punch!
I did the antenna upgrade and I'm seeing better range and video quality except that my video will drop out completely for a 1/2 sec to 5 seconds randomly, any advice for troubleshooting
So when I did this @ 9:25-9:30 it said I have (low rssi) is that cause I didn’t do a good soldering job or? I’m using the same antenna you have and the emaxx tinyhawk 2 freestyle
Rssi is your rx signal from your controller to your quad. The antenna upgrade in this video is the vtx antenna for your video they are not related. Check you have not touched any other solder points or created any bridges between solder points or that the ufl plug on the antenna isn't twisting and touching something it shouldn't creating a bridge.
Your videos are great. I am looking into upgrading my video range. I am a new to FPV just bought the Tinyhawk 2 bundle pack to get started. I and dont know all the ins and outs as I am just getting into it. It is awesome to have people like you sharing your knowledge. Thank you. For fear of sounding like an idiot, can I do this Omni Lollipop antenna upgrade with the stock with EMAX bundle FPV goggles and achieve extended video range? Or should I just extend the stock antenna? If I need to extend the stock antenna, could you post os send some links on you you did that? Thank you.
Thanks! Much appreciated! You can do this with the kit you've purchased but I'd probably change the antennas on your goggles aswell. Links are in this videos description of how I changed the rx antenna for more range under frsky antenna mod. If I were you as your new if you do this mod with the vtx antenna maybe do the direct solder method like the original antenna is soldered like I do in the rx antenna mod for both as the plug method is pretty hard! And maybe get some good soldering practice in 1st untill your super confident! Also I as I hinted at in this vid I ended up going shorter with a chunkier zip tie in the end and having a little excess slack to allow for more flex 👍 happy flying! Enjoy the fpv life its pretty 😎
Once again than you so much for these videos. I did the Frsky antenna mod. Unfortunately there was not a great platform for the base connector so I just hard wired it. Then I did the Foxeer lollipop antenna mod whit the base connector like you did in the video. Range was increased but still limited by the video. Then I replace the EMAX goggle antennas with dual Foxeer lollipop antennas as well and WOW!!! I have been flying in my neighborhood which consists of 1 and 2 story residence, along flat land, very large trees up and down the streets and above ground power lines. My range increased from about 100-150 before I lost video, to about 500-600 feet skimming the treetops and houses. Thank you so much for sharing all your wisdom. Now I just need to get either a better camera and som letter goggles that can record video, or get and insta360 and a mount for it. BTW, how do you like the insta360 compared to a GoPro? Thanks again for all the videos
@@CptRadical excellent! Well done doing the plug conversion 👌 not an easy task so congrats! And sounds like a great range increase for a built up area with interference 😁 there is no comparing my naked gopro to the inta360go...maybe the go 2 with nd filters gets closer but the weight is the same the go is lighter and the tinthawk can handle it was better and keep a flight time worth flying. I have the go 1 as I bought one when they came out and on micro analogue quads like the tinyhawk 2 it give me recordable HD stabilised footage for 5 mins at a time and I just appreciate that for what it is their cheaper to get hold of now aswell. I think unless you are going for a bigger quad the go is the heaviest I would go for on th e tinyhawk...but! There is also frames avaliable to transfer the tiny components over to which would allow a motor size increase which could possibly allow it to carry more weight like a go 2 or naked gopro as the current frame only allows 3 bolt motors limiting you to basically stock. Hope that helped happy flying!😎👍
@@CptRadical Drone bro nice work! Now really make this complete. Fatshark Dominator. Rapid fire module. One omni antenna, one patch antenna. If I had known before I would have thrown out the emax goggles immediately. I now fly in places never imagined. Welcome.
when I nuy an antenna for the drone, how do I know which one? I mean, they are different from goggles antenna and drone antenna ? and what connector they use?
Thats the choice, different antennas for different results hence the video. You will more than likely be running "rhcp" antennas. On goggles and the drone, they have to match whatever is on the goggles must be on the drone. From factory tinyhawk 2's have no connectors on the drone, this is removed and soldered direct. This video shows installing a "ufl" plug instead of direct solder. This is a very difficult job and not essential to upgrading the antenna. The new antenna could be direct soldered easilly instead. The antennas come in "whips" "dipoles" "patches" and lollipops i sugest watching a video explaimg antennas for more detail from j Bardwell but in this video I use a micro lollipop as lollipops are omni directional and so transmitting in a 360 degree field as opposed to directional. I use omni directional on the quad and on my goggles have 2 omni directional one patch "directional" and a coil "long range directional but small field. Which connector for both goggles and quad are specific to the goggles and the transmitter and so these have to be known before buying research this through an fpv antennas video for compete clarity.
@@Stevieboyfpv woah, lon gest reply anybody ever did to me !!!!! amazing. I understand the point, but is so boring to always do research for anything in this hobby, i'd like to have a friend that knows everything like you and getting help in real lif e lol lol anyway, why you chose plug instead of direct solder? to change antennas in case it does not work good?
@@swimbeyonder the small quad antennas come with micro ufl connectors and the same on a lot of the vtx transmitter boards so it just made it easier for the future but on this quad there is no actual need for the plug and direct soldering is way way easier and a solid connection.
@@Stevieboyfpv can you suggest me a solderable antenna for this same drone? And by the way mine is the freestyle version 1 with only 25 mw vtx..... It has very limited range... About 30 m
The process for attaching the reciever is the same as my crossfire video for this one, I'm all in on crossfire for like 15 quads can't see me shelling out for express lrs for a while. There are a few video out there on changing the vtx on this one 👍
Hello, could you help me with something please. So, recently I have accidentally burned 2 different FC boards on my Tiny Hawk Freestyle 2! I solder all my motors, and then check all joints and they are very clean. I plug in my two 1s batteries to the pig tail, and the drone chimes up as normal and all is well. I then go to EMAX and get the proper THF2 CLI command for my new flight controller, and go into Beta Flight uploading it to the drone, again all is successful. I bind to the original EMAX E-6 radio, and it is bound. Now, when I give the drone about 1/4 throttle.......it throttles up very high, loses control and flips off the table. I try it a few more times and same conclusion, but now......the smoke is let out of my FC:( DO YOU KNOW IF I need to set the new FC to 2s lipo batteries before trying to fly it? It seems like that is what is going on, because if I was using two 1s(2s total) and the drone is set for 1s, wouldn't that possibly cause this issue? Any advice you have would be very helpful, thanks:):):)
When you have 1st soldered the wires to the board have you armed it without the props on to check that your motors are all going in the right direction? Looking for above wity the quad facing away. Front right anti clockwise front left clockwise back left clockwise back right anti clockwise? If they are not correct change the wire soldering by swapping the 2 outer wired over as in there are 3 wires we will call a b c if the motor is spinning the wrong way swap a and c.
@@Stevieboyfpv Yes, all my motors were spinning in correct direction. But, even so......motor direction would not have to do with me giving the drone about 1/4 throttle.......and then watching it continue to climb to 3/4 throttle....and flip out. Also, once the drone reaches a certain acceleration it vibrates and starts shaking back and forth on the table(no props on at this point). But here is the link to the exact FC I received twice, and, as you will notice they ONLY provide a single 1s battery cable. So, it made me think that the board as is, was somehow setup in Beta Flight for 1s. www.racedayquads.com/products/emax-tinyhawk-ii-aio-flight-controller-esc-vtx-rx?currency=USD&variant=31468255838321&gclid=Cj0KCQjwkbuKBhDRARIsAALysV7Z6XosaDlco_Nod8BnT9GVKhcBuDKfUyJMmruldLd_PPvRYmxcJhcaAjC6EALw_wcB
I was feeling for any movement, if it couldn't handle my nails gently tweaking it then it deff wouldn't handle the antenna being popped on and off which is an actual tugging motion. You would have to pick much much harder than I did to pull the pads off with 3 solder points holding it unless you had cooked the pads when soldering.
Freakin Awesome. Ever week I think what could be left to upgrade. And you then you find something. That quad is a beast. I do agree. 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks dude! Its been fun making this little series I've been blown away with how its turned out really didn't expect it to end up so quality! Thanks for your comments man! Much appreciated!👊🙌🙏🏼
Great video. Just bought myself this little quad after a lot of research and it’s great to see it being modded and it’s capabilities pushed further. Good job.
Congrats! Good buy! Top little ripper! Thanks a lot!👍
@@Stevieboyfpv I got myn too and it’s killing it ! I just don’t like the radio and the goggles that came in the RTF kit and I am looking for upgrading them. Any advise of what can I get for freestyle ?
@@aymen3962 im flying eacgine 200d goggles which are superb for the price the 300d are more expensive but even better👍if your on a budget and don't mind box goggles the 800d are superb!
@@Stevieboyfpv okay and since I’ll be soldering a xfire on it I’ll buy a tango 2
The first part of the video is an excellent tutorial on how to repair a ripped off ufl as well. Had one tear off of a crossfire nano and this will save me $30. Thanks
Excellent! Thanks for the comment! Chuffed I could help!👍🙏🏼
I would definitely suggest Zip tieing the antenna to the top plate because if you pull the antenna to the right side it will put a lot of tension on your antenna connector 😁👍
No dispute on that one I ended up putting a thinker zip tie as the antenna support instead ander the shrink wrap and reducing the height and connecting it to the top plate 👍
Well done 😁👍 yeah it looked a little scary 😁👌
Another bang-up job. Much appreciate your experiments. I had been contemplating some upgrades to my TinyHawk II FreeStyle. I’ve gotten my Crossfire kit in, and will be putting one in my original TH2FS, after I finish my 2nd one, which I’m now building from scratch.
Thank you, keep up the great work!
Thanks man! Stoked you think so and appreciate your comments! Have fun with yours it really is an amazing little ripper!🙌🙏🏼👍
I got a tiny hawk what are the first upgrades I should get to make it fly faster and go longer distance
@@thraxexotics3406 The motors are a 3 bolt which makes them a problem to upgrade unless you change the frame. But changing the battery lead to an xt30 connection with thicker gauge wire will help performance and the vtx antenna upgrade in this vid for video feed distance and then one of my rx antenna upgrades will help from one of my other videos 👍
That is some great looking analog!
Your videos are an inspiration. I've got a Tinyhawk II Freestyle a few weeks ago, and if I ever dare to upgrade it with my shaky soldering skills, I'll be sure to watch your videos on how to do it. Thanks!!!!
Amazing comment! Thankyou very much for the kind words! 🙌🙌🙏🏼 very happy to hear all that 😁 I made them to try and help people progress without all the expensive mistakes i made learning to do it😅 flying these little beauties is so free'ing and rewarding 😁 happy flying!!😎
@@Stevieboyfpv I did it! Installed a new RX on the TinyHawk. Thank you so much for your videos!!!
@@kilasracingfactory 🥳congrats!! Great to hear! Feels good doesn't it! You won't look back now 👍🙏🏼
not sure how many times I have watched this video, but great job, and what a flight! I have one and I am really loving it.
Thanks a lot! Stoked to hear that! 🙏🏼
Awesome. I really like your video taking us through all the steps - even the thinking about and redoing stuff.
Thanks
Thanks a lot!!🙏🏼 stoked you liked it man hope it helps 👍
Great video, you make the soldering look so easy. I have a lttle experience soldering and thought I would be able to follow right along and ended up with an epic fail. Lesson learned though lol. Soldering this connector is not for the faint of heart, very tricky stuff.
Thanks! Yeh having both the gear and practice is deff necessary but you can always solder the antenna directly do away with the ufl connector to make it level 3 difficulty instead of 10
@@Stevieboyfpv yes, but when I was removing the uhf connector that I did not get soldered on correctly, it ended up removing the signal connection solder joint all together. Big bummer for sure.
@@ryzurrin mmmm maybe watch my vtx video then so you can fit a better vtx transmitter and save the board that will be cheaper than a new board aswell 👍
@@Stevieboyfpv will do! You have some awesome vids, just wish this stuff was half as easy as you make it look lol. Have you had epic fails while learning?
@@ryzurrin of course thats why I made the vids to try and help others not make the same mistakes I did, I've killed a few components racking up the pounds along the way painfully! Thays why I made this series so the mistakes could be made and skills honed with this little guy which is massively cheaper before moving onwards and upwards in the hobby to the bigger stuff👍
I have the same soldering iron. Thing works like a charm for how affordable it is
Been a winner for the price for sure! 👍
I like your soldering. Also thanks for showing me what to do to upgrade my TH2F.
Thanks very much! I've tried to cover a few different modifications in my videos now I'm very happy with how well it performs now. Really glad you found it informative 👍 🙏🏼
Excellent video. My only problem with this quad is with the stock vtx. Nice work. Thank you!
Thanks a lot! Glad you liked it and hope it helped 👍
All my small EMAX products have VTX issues. You should also replace the nylon stand-offs with metal. Mine "exploded" during a normal Betaflight Air Mode landing after only a few flights. The nylon stand-offs stripped out and lost half of the screws.
Watch the full upgrade video series ive done i change the standoffs in another vid , another the vtx another go through to even a frame change 👍
Where did you get those 550mah lipo's?
Great instructional! Thanks!
yourfpv.co.uk/product/cnhl-ministar-hv-550mah-7-6v-2s-70c-xt30/
His names Gaf! Good guy tell him I linked you👍 hard to find any anywhere
Don't use betaflight?
Nice work. Why not run it through the battery strap along the side of the battery?
thanks! i actually did what i said and used a thicker zip tie which i trimmed a little shorter, having it up above the battery is part of the point for better reception but at signal sacrifice you could do that.
Could you make a video with Dvr footage showing the stock drone vs this modded drone
I show in this video the original dvr footage before the antenna upgrade and in the other videos in the series I show the before and after on all the upgrades it would be a bit of a mission to undo all my upgrades to take some dvr footage maybe watch my other vids or watch someone else's stock drone vids on UA-cam and youl see the difference. Thanks for watching!👍
Great video. What size hex key are you using because all the ones I’ve tried are either too small or too big.
Thanks! 1.5mm is standard on the small quads 👍
@@Stevieboyfpv hm that’s the one I tried but it was too big. I ordered a hex set so hopefully it’ll work. Thanks!
This is awesome video I am definitely gonna have to save it I recently ordered one so I could use it recording ice racing. This is a definite upgrade that I'm going to have to do.
Excellent! Stoked to help! Thanks for stopping by!👍
No smoke stopper and didn't even continuity test it. Just cross your fingers and plug it in. Good thing you have good soldiering skills
@@paulgeorge1069 haha yes I know! Not long after this the smoke stopper was purchased and up'd my game! Still don't continuity test 😅
Great video. Have just bought a THF2 and waiting for some decent weather before taking it out. I noticed in your other video where you showed the 3d printed feet / pad upgrade.
Do you know where to buy these pads as the ebay seller link in your other video does not appear to sell these any more?
Thanks! His names Lee message him tell him I sent you and he will make you some 👍i will give you the thingyverse link to send him in case he doesn't have it anymore
www.thingiverse.com/thing:3825436
@@Stevieboyfpv Nice one! I've sent him a message.
Great how to video!
I want to put a micro lollipop on my Tiny Go.Should I also put two of them on my goggles?
Love to have the results you had!
Thankyou! 🙏🏼Yes put a rhcp patch and a rhcp omni on your goggles 👍
@@Stevieboyfpv are you saying to mix and match the goggle antenna?
@@SchurrAquatics an omni is multi directional antenna and a patch is directional so by having both on tour goggles you have the best of both worlds for signal
@@Stevieboyfpv I didn't even know you could do that! Any specific ones you'd recommend? US buyer but I'm sure I can find them
@@SchurrAquatics foxeer or menace are good makes but there are so many and most fpv parts suppliers sell antennas
nice! i was just looking up if this was possible and blam!
Glad to help you can connect this the same as the old antenna or with a plug both work great without plug is way easier👍
Hey stevie! Thanks a lot for the tutorial! I have a question about the vtx. When i put the output power to 200mw, the vtx signal becomes weaker than on 25mw. This was before and after adding the lollipop. Do you have any idea as to what causes this? I also have a happymodel elrs receiver on it.
Unless you have a bad earth or bad connection somewhere that is strange!
Check through oscars list see if any of that helps oscarliang.com/connect-vtx-fpv-camera/
Wow thats crazy far, gotta learn to solder and do this myself.
Def learn to solder and the world of fpv will open up to you🤟👍🙏🏼
@@Stevieboyfpv I learned to solder and have succesfully been able to solder the antenna to the TH 2 Freestyle. I cut it shorter to fit it in the case but it seems i have the same range as with the old antenna. I do use the stock th 3 goggles with the stock antennas as the foxeer rhcp antennas for the goggles haven’t arrived yet. Are there any settings you have to change in the betaflight?
@@theearthisbread the other antenna will help have you unlocked the 200mw power?
@@Stevieboyfpv thanks a lot for helping :). I did unlock the 200mw. I did forget to mention i was testing the distance indoors in my house through walls as it was very cold and didn't have the time yet to test outdoors. I thought the th2 with lollipop antenna would be a little stronger with penetrating indoors aswell but now the th 2 freestyle with lollipop vtx has the exact same range as my tinyhawk 3 on the stock vtx antenna so i think it will have the same outdoors. Maybe its just the stock antennas on my tinyhawk 3 box goggles. I guess i'm a little scared to lose the signal quickly when i will be flying outdoors tomorrow so i thought to ask first before sending it into oblivian.
@@theearthisbread when you can a very good cheap upgrade would be a 2nd hand pair of eachine 800d goggles 👍
Hey buddy what soldering iron and tip do you use, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with how small the connections are on the tinyhawk and not sure what to buy. Thanks in advance
Hi jonny, i use a zd-929c adjustable soldering iron with various size tips depending on the job. If you are going to get into fpv a good soldering iron is a must. I use a soldering iron
Sponge
Brass wool
Tip refresher crystals
Solder paste
All to keep my tips in good condition as this is essential! I use flux core solder and good quality soldering makes a big difference so don't buy the cheapest.
I would advise buying a soldering practice pad and watching tutorials to get comfortable. Last thing you want is to kill your quad because you made an avoidable mistake. 👍
Loved your video! I'm here a bit late, but just getting into my TinyHawk 2 Freestyle! I'm looking for upgrades and changes, what do you suggest? I got the package deal including their cheap rc and goggles - what would you suggest I change first, for the best experience in video quality and overall flying capabilities?
Have you watched all my upgrade vids?
Cheapest and biggest difference would be xt30 connector and going to proper 2s batteries have to change charger aswell though next vtx antenna and antennas for goggles and unlock the vtx power to 200mw cough! If you in a country that its lega to 👍
@@Stevieboyfpv I haven't! I just saw this one as I was doing some research - I'll go check them out! And I don't know of it's legal, I'm in the states. I'll look up the xt30 - whatever that is - and the batteries! I'm sure I'll have more questions here in a little, thanks for the help!
@@theexperienced5457 yep legal in the states mate 👍
@@Stevieboyfpv so I had another question for you, I have a separate tinyhawk that I think I fried something - I flew it after it rained, and crash landed in the wet grass. When I turn it on it doesn't do anything, but the vtx has a green light. Do I need a new fc? Should I buy the same fc from emax, or look for a new upgraded option?
@@theexperienced5457 yeh you've prob fried the esc side of the board. To fit the frame you would want the same aio flight controller or you would be entering a world of adaptor plates or different frames
It looks so easy when you do it, I only wish I had the skills to do this myself, going the safer route on my feestyle v1 (got crap 25mw shitter vtx from Emax storage of shit parts that needed to be used) of just replacing the VTX with TBS Nano, and putting ExpressLRS also in there, will use the same power sources the ones beneth the main board to power the VTX and receiver...If I fail its like 170$ down the drain...
Was your original antenna soldered to the underside of that board ? Bcos mine is?
I want to do this to my tinyhawk f2 but I’m not sure how to find the attena and all the accessories you got for it. Could you put a link on where to get then
Cool! The links are in the description and in the links in all my other tinyhawk freestyle upgrade vid descriptions as I've done different ones 👍
Hey ! Can I buy that antenna and cut it and solder it directly ? Or do I have to buy that little plug that you soldered in the VTX
No you can solder it directly 👍
Do I need a special board to do this modification, or can I add this antenna to the original board my tinyhawk freestyle 2 came with?
This is on the original board the tiny came with. You can add the antenna directly or with the plug. The antenna directly is a lot easier by removing the plug and exposing and separating the ground sheath and active core and direct soldering. Practice till your confident with your soldering iron if your not already proficient 👍
Does lollipop come with micro plug?👍
You have to buy the the little ufl connector I soldered to the board separately if that's what you mean. But you can cut off the connector from the lollipop and direct solder it which is an easier job by miles👍
@@Stevieboyfpv yep that's what I did. Works great!
Nice tutorial! I have done the upgrade. Got it soldered by a local electronics shop, as I did not want to risk it with such small connections. I also got a micro lolipop antena from foxeer and it all works fine if I am on 25 or 100mw but as soon as I switch to 200 the image disappears and it's just white and black lines jumping. The vtx starts flickering between the blue and green lights until i turn it down to 100 or 25mw. Do you have an idea of what may the cause be?
Is the metal plug on the antenna touching or pushing on part of the board maybe grounding out? Try taking the top plate off and re position it, check the connector has no damage inspect their solder joints to make sure its not pooled below the plug and creating a short underneath
@@Stevieboyfpv Thanks for the help! Unfortunately I can't really find anything that could be causing it. Spent some time testing. The connection does look fine and it and the drone appears to have a normal range for the 100 mw. I have tried adding another mode and setting it to 200mw but it flew quite similarly to 25mw. Maybe it is hardware locked to the 3 modes. For the most part it works fine, i just cant get it above 100mw which is weird. I have added a runcam thumb pro on it and the view looks stunning. I am looking to change the connector to xt30 but i can only find 550mw 2s 7,4V 95C batteries where i live, could these batteries work with it?
@@BendaBlenda they will work fine, thats a strange one
What temp did you have your soldering iron set to? Great video btw!
380-400°
@@Stevieboyfpv Thanks for replying, I'm guessing Celsius? My iron measures in °Freedom units 😅😅 I'll have to convert it
@@Carguyforlife yes Celsius 👍 I go pretty hot because I move Fairly fast if your going slower a slightly lower temp is better
May be a stupid question.. but.. 😂 could I solder a lolly pop antenna to the original antenna wire ?
It has an internal core for the information and a latised external core for earth so I wouldn't solder it together but you can just solder the lollipop antenna to the pad the original antenna is attached to no worries. Separate the core from the grounding sheath solder the core to the single pad and the ground sheath to the 2 outer pads 👍
Thinking about buying the rtf kit for the thfs2 as my first fpv, but I’m little concerned about the integrity of the vtx and having a premature failure. Do you know anything about this issue with the vtx? Or had any issues yourself? Should I buy something else with my money or is it still worth it even if it means I gotta learn how to solder in a few months to replace the the video transmitter? Also I’ve heard the the motors on the thfs2 burn out a lot. Have you had this issue?
This is a superb starter, and I've had no issues with the vtx failing it can be unlocked to 200mw for more range. I have a string of upgrade videos for this quad. Its the perfect quad to learn all the skills needed for fpv which is why I made the upgrade series play list for it as you can learn cheaply. Learning to solder and exchange parts is an essential part of fpv droning dont fear it learn and enjoy gaining new skills and knowledge and then the freedom of fearless flying knowing your can repair your gear👍🤟
@@Stevieboyfpv thank you so much for the reply I appreciate the info. I decided that I probably need a bigger faster quad. I have a lot of land and I’m afraid I’d grow out of anything too small very quickly lol. I think I’ve landed on the iflight nazgul5 v2 5” 6s freestyle with the elrs receiver. Although 6s may sound like a bit much for my first fpv quad, I’m not a complete stranger to quads, helicopters, and rc cars and I have enough land out here I think I could figure it out. I’ve strayed away from the “kit” that way I can have a good transmitter and googles for any drone. I think the nazgul5 v2 5” 6s will be a good fit for me and be a good quad to grow into and last me a bit hopefully. Anyways think you again for the reply! You’re the man! I would love to hear what you think about my decision to go with the nazgul 5” quad instead. Also I really enjoyed all of the build videos on the tiny hawk and they got me pumped up to learn how to solder. Although I’ve decided on the nazgul5 5” I think the tiny hawk may still have a place in my collection lol I’m afraid the nazgul5 may be the first of many quads.
@@jordangrapes5072 its a great quad for sure! Just go steady its enough to kill someone. A whole lotta of fun! I have a few iflight quads and around 20 in total 😬 its very addictive. Happy flying!
@@Stevieboyfpv hahaha thank you much I’m glad you think this will be a good quad. I am very excited. My dream is to eventually have a drone with 1-2 mile range as I live on a farm and being able to fry across all the fields to check the cattle and see where they are? How much feed/hay they’ve got? Have the broke in or out somewhere? This would be a huge help for my grandpa as he is getting older and it would be a blast in the process. I’m just not quite sure how easily obtainable that kind of range is if it is and if I can do it without spending a fortune.
Wat if the solder I'm using already has flux should I still apply anyway I'm new so forgive my ignorance
Yes use flux aswell the flux burns off once it has the solder is un responsive
What's your VTX power setting (mw)?
Very cool! What was your VTX power?
The tinyhawk 2 freestyle
goes up to 200mw but in the uk we are only allowed to use 25mw so obviously I couldn't say to use 200mw
@@Stevieboyfpv I just ordered a few lollipops, my tinyhawk 2 and geprc phantom are getting upgrades this weekend :)
@@BotanicalOdyssey nice! You can avoid the uf.l plug on the tinyhawk and direct solder like the original also which is way easier. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
@@BotanicalOdyssey man you will never regret it. I did that to both of my th2s and my phantom. So much better detail and color! Oh but add a rapidfire module an omni and a patch antenna and you will fly places you never dared to go before. See you in the air
Hello, just à question, (my english is bad and probably someone asked) i can do this and use the emax Google in the kit and Just change the antenna ? No need change other thing? Thank you!
Yes you can add this antenna to the drone directly or with the ufl plug as shown. For best results change the antennas on the goggles to rhcp antennas one lollipop and the other a patch 👍
@@Stevieboyfpv thank you👍
would sc2 connectors work Aswell just ordered some. 😅
I added a small zip tie to the plastic part of the battery strap and the antenna, which was pretty stable. It looks like you use two capacitors instead of one, does this have any advantage?
Yeh I went with a fatter zip tie and slightly shorter in the end worked better.
I've done both 2 capacitors and tried the variation of one on thr board or one on the xt30 lead and its all much the muchness tbh
Excellent video. The VTX was noticably improved. Man you got a steady hand. Are you a surgeon? Anyway, thanks.
Thanks a lot! Hope it helped 🙏🏼
I managed to break off the active part. Now what?
I seemed to successfully soldering the antenna on, and has flown with it, but this morning picture broke up, and it turned out that the pad was coming of.
Great upgrade indeed. Any tips on how to save it? Anywhere else on the circuit board that I can find the active connection?
Sounds like you over heated the pad causing it to release 😔 unless you can scratch off the board a little to somehow get a solder point i don't know of another way I am affraid sorry.
@@Stevieboyfpv Thanks. Will try
@@pedereskildsen good luck! Hopefully you won't have to replace the
Board 🤞🙏🏼 i feel your pain ive been there, that is fpv unfortunately we learn a lot of skills...some painfully! I've spent thousands 😬
@@Stevieboyfpv Thanks. I did have to replace the board ☹. Fortunately I already had a spare from when my first TH got shredded by my robot lawnmower...
(Don't fly during mowing, when not super experienced)😳
@@pedereskildsen argh! No! Thats a shame! But hey! Must of been a relief you had a spare! Some luck at least! Lawnmower aye!😬😬😬 that must of been a bad day! Enjoy being back in the air man!🤟
Hi Stevie, great video. I managed to get everything set up, but unfortunately, when I arm the quad the vtx disconnects... Resetting it by unplugging and reconnecting the battery restores the picture, but it disconnects as soon as I arm it again. Any ideas?
Sounds like you have a short or bridge happening somewhere look closely for solder touching another component or chip or the ground and live element have joined
@@Stevieboyfpv Thanks for the speedy reply mate! Well, I removed the connector and soldered another one. Checked for continuity between the relevant bits and it looks good. Powered it on and it did the same thing when arming. If I arm it, let it bug out, then press the button on the vtx to reconnect (not disconnecting the battery), it arms without disconnecting. If I connect the battery and then press the button, it doesn't work. It needed to bug out before pressing the button. After more testing, if I arm and disarm quickly, then arm again, it works fine... Strange thing happening...
@@martyn5064 all I can think is there is a short happening somewhere else if plug is fine. Is your vtx unlocked to 200mw?
@@martyn5064 make sure there are no exposed bits of wire on the wires running from the capacitor and the antenna brass plug isn't touching it or any other components
@@Stevieboyfpv After further testing: If I push down on the connector it works fine. I think it may be a dodgy antenna. I'll order another one and report back. Yeah, it's unlocked to 200mw.
Great video bro, new sub 👌
Thanks dude!
What did you use to remove the extra sawder
That is called a solder sucker
Great video, I'd love to do this but have no soldering experience what so ever so don't think this is a job for me, where in the UK are you? Are you up for doing it the antenna and cross fire mod for me? Do you have an email to contact you on? Sam
Yeh it is fidly...Are you on Instagram?
@@Stevieboyfpv yes, I'll give you a message on there shortly 👌🏼👍
I've sent you a dm on instagram Stevie
I’m looking to do the same upgrade but can’t seem to fine those connections pads your soldering on for the antenna
You can always just direct solder the antenna instead if you cand find any ufl connectors
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would these antennas incease the range using the RTF kit? i understand that the controller and goggles are not great quality, but i assume that their range would be greater than the stock antennas on the quad. Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated!
If tou changed to an omni directional lollipop antenna on the quad and then had both an omni and a directional patch antenna on the goggles you will have better range and penetration. A great cheap upgrade, but also a 2nd hand pair if eachine 800d goggles would make a big difference.
Heres a link explaining antennas more
ua-cam.com/video/B4Nl_yJ_acc/v-deo.html
definitely should do this for my freestyle 2 too. :)
Yeh I've done the plug option and straight solder option and both are way better!
Would it be possible to route the antenna out back? I like to fly freestyle and I'm concerned that the antenna wire may ground components on the board.
Yeh I've routed it different ways including out the back 👍
I don't even have a drone yet and I already want to upgrade and all ready afraid of messing it up
I bought a tinyhawk, then thawk freestyle
Then a mino cinewhoop new that needed repair spent loads getting it to a shop twice for them to screw it up because I was scared to screw it up, that forced me onto the soldering iron.....it wasn't the best but I fixed it. Now I have over 20 and have tutorials to help others build and fix them. If you mess it up....you fix it thats fpv so don't worry and thats the point of the tinyhawk series I created as you can learn with a small cheap drone 1st
Really really REALLY wish they had this installed from the factory. I'm about attempt this and I feel like Dr. Strange after his accident. Wish my luck...
Practice your soldering, make sure you have a good tip use the wet sponge and flux 350-380° heat and take your time, you can always not use the plug and direct solder the antenna which is easier 👍 good luck!
@@Stevieboyfpv Got the VTX antenna soldered on but managed to lift the SBUS pad when I was trying to solder the XM+. Oh well, 1 outta 2 isn't bad. Luckily I still have the original still on. SADLY, I crashed into a wall after clipping some moss and managed to bork my ESC. Looking at a new drone instead of repairing this one. GEPRC 2.5" Phantom MAYBE. Already has XM+ and a swappable VTX antenna. Just an upgraded TH2FS basically, with 3S!
@@gasser5001 ahh what a gutter! Have to be hot and fast with nonpulling on those little pads, sorry to hear that dude! Maybe still get a replacement board to keep it in the fleet! Geprc do build a great quad in my opinion 👌
I'm about to perform this upgrade. Would you say that it's a good Idea to stay around 300°C?
Yeh if your doing the plug you want it as low as possible as you can actually melt the tiny board the plug is made from its not as bad if your going for the sheathing method of direct soldering the active element and ground
@@Stevieboyfpv What were your heat settings? That's what I'm worried about. I don't want to over do it and melt the pad underneath. I'm going to remove the original solder and anchor one side first so that I can avoid the solder getting underneath.
@@FlockofSmeagles I was at just under 300 mines a dial not digital so its not super accurate I think if you can do it with touches like I did with a slightly wet tip you should be good at 300 what you want is just enough solder on the pads on th vtx board for it to stick like a little bulge so when you tack it its not cranked at too much of an angle pitched off the 2nd ground then add a touch more when both grounds are attatched taking care not to let the solder from either ground flow into the middle linking it to the active element centre. after that attatch the active element 👍
Damn your talented
Can you tell me what lollipop antenna you used and the connector too, and where I can get it for my Tiny hawk freestyle two?
I used a foxeer lollipop but any rhcp lollipop will work, its a uf.l connector but you can direct solder it the same as the original antenna also, you don't have to use the plug. I used companies in the uk
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If I do this mod can I still use the stock(RTF) googles?
Yes 👍
What is that pen called you use to clear off the old solder
A solder sucker
What is that little part that the vtx plugs in to? Where can I get it?
Edit: I lost the screwdriver for the drone, is can u send me a link of a screwdriver that I can use for the drone?
Do you mean the little part the antenna plugs into? That's a ufl connector
You can also not use that and solder the antenna to the board directly the outer core (ground) to the 2 pads and the central (active element) to the single one the same as the original antenna. Here is where you can get some plugs though
www.droneauthority.co.uk/products/u-fl-connector-5pcs?variant=35451338981448¤cy=GBP&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmPSSBhCNARIsAH3cYgYN6&ref=98p3pmza5i
Is tbis antenna compatible with the goggles this combo comes with?
Yes but you round change the antenna on the goggles to rhcp ones 👍
Normally you would attatch one rhcp patch (directional) antenna and one rhcp lollipop (omni directional) antenna
Nice mate 👌
Thanks dude! 👍🙏🏼
How can I tell if the antenna is installed correctly? How far is the range without one?
You would have terrible signal without one
what battry would u recomend me to buy on amazon
www.amazon.com/4pcs-GAONENG-550mah-Battery-Connector/dp/B09GLV8Q6P/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=ZCRJ1FCRXCM8&keywords=550mah+2s&qid=1643300640&sprefix=550mah%2Caps%2C233&sr=8-3
These are pretty good for the price. I have no experience of the seller though.
For the tinyhawk freestyle you have converted to an xt30 plug you want a 2s lipo between 450 and 600mah you can go higher if your looking for more time in the air but will sacrifice agility.
And you want as higher "c" rating as possible for that consistent punch!
@@Stevieboyfpv thank you
I did the antenna upgrade and I'm seeing better range and video quality except that my video will drop out completely for a 1/2 sec to 5 seconds randomly, any advice for troubleshooting
That usually means a connection, or earth problem somewhere 🤔
@@Stevieboyfpv I may have not put enough solder on the small pin of the u.fl connector
@@Engineerforhire possibly or you have a bridge 👍
good video!
Thankyou!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
So when I did this @ 9:25-9:30 it said I have (low rssi) is that cause I didn’t do a good soldering job or? I’m using the same antenna you have and the emaxx tinyhawk 2 freestyle
I also had low battery’s in the goggles and drone when I tested it
Rssi is your rx signal from your controller to your quad. The antenna upgrade in this video is the vtx antenna for your video they are not related. Check you have not touched any other solder points or created any bridges between solder points or that the ufl plug on the antenna isn't twisting and touching something it shouldn't creating a bridge.
Your videos are great. I am looking into upgrading my video range. I am a new to FPV just bought the Tinyhawk 2 bundle pack to get started. I and dont know all the ins and outs as I am just getting into it. It is awesome to have people like you sharing your knowledge. Thank you. For fear of sounding like an idiot, can I do this Omni Lollipop antenna upgrade with the stock with EMAX bundle FPV goggles and achieve extended video range? Or should I just extend the stock antenna? If I need to extend the stock antenna, could you post os send some links on you you did that? Thank you.
Thanks! Much appreciated! You can do this with the kit you've purchased but I'd probably change the antennas on your goggles aswell. Links are in this videos description of how I changed the rx antenna for more range under frsky antenna mod. If I were you as your new if you do this mod with the vtx antenna maybe do the direct solder method like the original antenna is soldered like I do in the rx antenna mod for both as the plug method is pretty hard! And maybe get some good soldering practice in 1st untill your super confident! Also I as I hinted at in this vid I ended up going shorter with a chunkier zip tie in the end and having a little excess slack to allow for more flex 👍 happy flying! Enjoy the fpv life its pretty 😎
Once again than you so much for these videos. I did the Frsky antenna mod. Unfortunately there was not a great platform for the base connector so I just hard wired it. Then I did the Foxeer lollipop antenna mod whit the base connector like you did in the video. Range was increased but still limited by the video. Then I replace the EMAX goggle antennas with dual Foxeer lollipop antennas as well and WOW!!! I have been flying in my neighborhood which consists of 1 and 2 story residence, along flat land, very large trees up and down the streets and above ground power lines. My range increased from about 100-150 before I lost video, to about 500-600 feet skimming the treetops and houses. Thank you so much for sharing all your wisdom. Now I just need to get either a better camera and som letter goggles that can record video, or get and insta360 and a mount for it. BTW, how do you like the insta360 compared to a GoPro? Thanks again for all the videos
@@CptRadical excellent! Well done doing the plug conversion 👌 not an easy task so congrats! And sounds like a great range increase for a built up area with interference 😁 there is no comparing my naked gopro to the inta360go...maybe the go 2 with nd filters gets closer but the weight is the same the go is lighter and the tinthawk can handle it was better and keep a flight time worth flying. I have the go 1 as I bought one when they came out and on micro analogue quads like the tinyhawk 2 it give me recordable HD stabilised footage for 5 mins at a time and I just appreciate that for what it is their cheaper to get hold of now aswell. I think unless you are going for a bigger quad the go is the heaviest I would go for on th e tinyhawk...but! There is also frames avaliable to transfer the tiny components over to which would allow a motor size increase which could possibly allow it to carry more weight like a go 2 or naked gopro as the current frame only allows 3 bolt motors limiting you to basically stock. Hope that helped happy flying!😎👍
@@CptRadical Drone bro nice work! Now really make this complete. Fatshark Dominator. Rapid fire module. One omni antenna, one patch antenna. If I had known before I would have thrown out the emax goggles immediately. I now fly in places never imagined. Welcome.
when I nuy an antenna for the drone, how do I know which one? I mean, they are different from goggles antenna and drone antenna ? and what connector they use?
Thats the choice, different antennas for different results hence the video.
You will more than likely be running "rhcp" antennas. On goggles and the drone, they have to match whatever is on the goggles must be on the drone. From factory tinyhawk 2's have no connectors on the drone, this is removed and soldered direct. This video shows installing a "ufl" plug instead of direct solder. This is a very difficult job and not essential to upgrading the antenna. The new antenna could be direct soldered easilly instead. The antennas come in "whips" "dipoles" "patches" and lollipops i sugest watching a video explaimg antennas for more detail from j Bardwell but in this video I use a micro lollipop as lollipops are omni directional and so transmitting in a 360 degree field as opposed to directional. I use omni directional on the quad and on my goggles have 2 omni directional one patch "directional" and a coil "long range directional but small field. Which connector for both goggles and quad are specific to the goggles and the transmitter and so these have to be known before buying research this through an fpv antennas video for compete clarity.
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@@Stevieboyfpv woah, lon gest reply anybody ever did to me !!!!! amazing. I understand the point, but is so boring to always do research for anything in this hobby, i'd like to have a friend that knows everything like you and getting help in real lif e lol lol anyway, why you chose plug instead of direct solder? to change antennas in case it does not work good?
@@swimbeyonder the small quad antennas come with micro ufl connectors and the same on a lot of the vtx transmitter boards so it just made it easier for the future but on this quad there is no actual need for the plug and direct soldering is way way easier and a solid connection.
@@Stevieboyfpv can you suggest me a solderable antenna for this same drone? And by the way mine is the freestyle version 1 with only 25 mw vtx..... It has very limited range... About 30 m
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Thanks Sam!😁🙏🏼
next up, replacing that crappy VTX, and move to ExpressLRS! 👍
The process for attaching the reciever is the same as my crossfire video for this one, I'm all in on crossfire for like 15 quads can't see me shelling out for express lrs for a while. There are a few video out there on changing the vtx on this one 👍
@@Stevieboyfpv oh no, I know how to do it, I was just talking about YOUR next upgrades! but if you're stuck with crossfire, I understand 😃
@@pgabrieli literally made the vids to help others 👍
@@Stevieboyfpv and you did, much appreciated
Hello, could you help me with something please. So, recently I have accidentally burned 2 different FC boards on my Tiny Hawk Freestyle 2! I solder all my motors, and then check all joints and they are very clean. I plug in my two 1s batteries to the pig tail, and the drone chimes up as normal and all is well. I then go to EMAX and get the proper THF2 CLI command for my new flight controller, and go into Beta Flight uploading it to the drone, again all is successful. I bind to the original EMAX E-6 radio, and it is bound. Now, when I give the drone about 1/4 throttle.......it throttles up very high, loses control and flips off the table. I try it a few more times and same conclusion, but now......the smoke is let out of my FC:( DO YOU KNOW IF I need to set the new FC to 2s lipo batteries before trying to fly it? It seems like that is what is going on, because if I was using two 1s(2s total) and the drone is set for 1s, wouldn't that possibly cause this issue? Any advice you have would be very helpful, thanks:):):)
When you have 1st soldered the wires to the board have you armed it without the props on to check that your motors are all going in the right direction? Looking for above wity the quad facing away. Front right anti clockwise front left clockwise back left clockwise back right anti clockwise? If they are not correct change the wire soldering by swapping the 2 outer wired over as in there are 3 wires we will call a b c if the motor is spinning the wrong way swap a and c.
@@Stevieboyfpv I use BLHELI to change motor direction. Isn't that ok to do it that way, or should I unsolder and resolder?
@@ifeetz7612 no totally fine
@@ifeetz7612 so we're all your motors spinning in the correct directions?
@@Stevieboyfpv Yes, all my motors were spinning in correct direction. But, even so......motor direction would not have to do with me giving the drone about 1/4 throttle.......and then watching it continue to climb to 3/4 throttle....and flip out. Also, once the drone reaches a certain acceleration it vibrates and starts shaking back and forth on the table(no props on at this point). But here is the link to the exact FC I received twice, and, as you will notice they ONLY provide a single 1s battery cable. So, it made me think that the board as is, was somehow setup in Beta Flight for 1s. www.racedayquads.com/products/emax-tinyhawk-ii-aio-flight-controller-esc-vtx-rx?currency=USD&variant=31468255838321&gclid=Cj0KCQjwkbuKBhDRARIsAALysV7Z6XosaDlco_Nod8BnT9GVKhcBuDKfUyJMmruldLd_PPvRYmxcJhcaAjC6EALw_wcB
such long and loose antenna will cause noise on gyro.
Having no issues so far its been flying like a dream! I have considered antenna tube and a thicker zip tie for more rigidity though 👍
00:33 what is this?
Its a u.fl connector the female plug which can be soldered to the board
They couldn’t make that pad any smaller could they, need a friggin microscope to solder that thing
Ah man like so! Small
Made me cringe when he started picking at it to see if it was on doing that can rip the pads off
I was feeling for any movement, if it couldn't handle my nails gently tweaking it then it deff wouldn't handle the antenna being popped on and off which is an actual tugging motion. You would have to pick much much harder than I did to pull the pads off with 3 solder points holding it unless you had cooked the pads when soldering.