How NOT to create MP3 music from cassette (Feat. Techmoan)
Вставка
- Опубліковано 24 жов 2016
- Support this channel on Patreon:
/ 8bitguy1
Check out my video on the Tascam 4-track recorder:
• How oldschool multi-tr...
In this video, I take a look at a retro boombox by QFX which is advertised to convert cassette tapes to MP3, but everything is not as it seems.
"Techmoan keeps sending me junk, and I'm just gonna throw it away."
"This, is a Glock 19"
Terrible Person ytp
Whaaat ytp???? "YTP stands for UA-cam Poop. Taking sources from franchises, videos, memes, photos, and music then mashing them together with a video-editing software (Vegas Pro)." urban dictionary
I prefer a Glock 17.
@@kristianmucaji9420 the Glock is boring. Don't get me wrong, reliable, but so boring... I prefer a USP or Berettas.
@@LaskyLabs WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT THE GLOCK!?
So when you crushed that thing with the steamroller, would that be "Compressed audio?"
Compressed into 8 million bits.
No, that's crushed audio
@@onemancheeseburgerarmy2972 bitcrushed audio
lol
decimated...
The converted audio from the boom box sounds like if you downloaded the WAV from Limewire, put it into Windows Movie Maker, than went and uploaded it to UA-cam in 2005.
Then someone downloaded it, played it through a high school PA system, somebody then recorded THAT, and uploaded this to limewire, then the entire process repeated once again.
Then someone downloaded it, played it through a PA system, somebody then recorded THAT, and uploaded this to limewire, then the entire process repeated once again, again.
So myspace quality? :D iirc that was only 64kbps, I used to rip audio off there (unique remixes etc.) and it was utter garbage. I wonder how Tom's doing...
@@totaltotalmonkey Almost a copy lol
ua-cam.com/video/1dll9tWfMqs/v-deo.html
this video did that process back in 2005, and still has better quality
An interesting thing about Cassette recorders, is cassettes always sound best when played back on the same unit that recorded them (Assuming a single head is used for record and playback) The reason for this has to do with head alignment. If the head is out of alignment, it won't sound very good (highs rolled off) but if played back with the same misalignment, it's back to perfect.
The fact that your Tascam sounded so close to the original indicates it has excellent head alignment, or at the very least, it's head alignment matches that of the Sony that recorded it.
There is a standard alignment. Unless my memory is faulty, they sold 4 channel alignment cassettes of a specific frequencies and separate equipment that could detect misalignment. However, after sitting in a garage for 30 years, there is basically a 100% chance the alignment hasn't held.
Edit: Yes, genn labs still sell the alignment cassettes... wow...
Superb to see two of my favorite channels combined! Great topic as always, David :)
Three of my favourite channels in the same place?! You guys are the trifecta of retro electronics. LOVE your channels.
8-Bit Guy
Techmoan
LGR
The holy UA-cam trio of outdated technology.
Pepsi Man You forgot Oddity Archive.
It's not out of date if you still use them!
+Pepsi Man YAAAAA!
8 Bit Guy and Techmoan collab. Well, there's my life completed.
KnapfordMaster98 I know right? I'm crying it's amazing
Holy moly. Yes! 😆😆😆
Now all we need is LGR, and the circle is complete.
Total nerdgasm.
Plus a bonus UA-cam Pedant segment at the end. Brilliant!
Ouch! We get these "retro" systems here in Australia and I was tempted, and even more so when I realised tape to MP3 was a feature. Glad I didn't pull the trigger. I think the best "retro looking" technology...is....original retro technology :)
just get a walkman or something and use the headphone output with an 1/8" to 1/8" cable to the line in on a pc and use a program like audacity (free) or sony sound forge to record it to a wave file. then convert to mp3. in sound forge all you have to do is resave your file as an mp3 and it has an awesome built in converter. not sure about audacity because i have never used it.
trance dj
Tell me, if your trying to get the best quality out of an audio file, why would you bother compressing the recording with a lossy format? Realtek technologies are already shit enough, I don’t understand why you’d bother converting to mp3 when you have a passable file already
Bit late response, but.... None of the tape>MP3 have Dolby decoding, so you're already losing decent response and noise reduction. Nobody is willing to spend the licensing fees to pay Dolby anymore, which is why I made sure to have my old high-end cassette deck cleaned and calibrated. Not bothering with doing new cassettes anymore of course, I still probably have a few new ones sitting around like Techmoan did.
13:18 Well, I must say, usually I'm against unnecessarily producing e-Waste and thus hate to see scenes like that, but because of how many audacious claims this device makes while failing miserably to fulfill them, I was really glad when I saw the Steamroller! This needless electronic device destruction was WELL DESERVED!
PS: love the collab with Mat!
This device is e-waste from the moment it's produced.
I own it it’s good for playing tapes
@@RickyRat256 But it can't actually play tapes properly. It's no good for that either...the steamroller is all it's good for. The only other thing I can see is scavenging the magnets from the speakers, if you need strong magnets.
@@bjornroesbeke goes for bad chinese phones too
@@StormsparkPegasus those janky ass speakers definitely don’t have strong magnets in them. They are at best refrigerator magnet strength
After seeing that ytp, when he made the face all i heard was techmoan singing "we're up all night to get lucky"
This original video felt weird now because I watched those YTPs all the time lol
@@thespkrYT same
Same bro 😂😂
@@thespkrYT Same
We're up all night to get lucky.
We're up all night to get lucky.
We're up all night to get lucky.
We're up all night to get lucky.
Another reason why the recording is so bad, is because it doesn't record directly, it records the sounds out of it's own speakers with a little mic in the front, that's why that small hole in the front is labeled MP3 mic, don't believe me? Try to convert tape to MP3 with the volume off, nothing will be recorded. This thing is beyond cheap, it's a complete rip off.
oh god thats so bad.
seriously? If that were true, then it would probably pick up other sounds in the room. I should have tested that, but it is too late now. hahah.
The 8-Bit Guy I'm dead serious, I tested this myself, and yeah if you have the volume low enough and you are doing other things you'll pick it up, take a look at the box if you still have it, you'll see the little MP3 mic in the front.
LOL! Wowwww.
レトロアートVideos You're just kidding! that's so bad. You would hear a car with is passing by and so on. Be happy u don't have any troubles with that piece of.... junk, 8-bit guy!
13:34 Probably the best sound that unit ever made.
I can imagine David’s conversation with his friend to ask him if he could run over a crappy boombox with a steam roller
Lol, great to see the Techmoan muppets make an appearance.
M Dunn sad as it might sound, i live for those little sketches with the puppets/muppets at the end of the videos. Proper cheered me up after a bad day.
I too share this like for the Techmoan Muppets. and, the more they show up, the better he gets at using them. it would make my day if CTW contacts Techmoan to do some sort of one-off on Sesame Street as a muppet that repairs old electronics or a tape player or something to teach the lesson of "just because it's old doesn't mean you need to throw it away" to help instill that sort of thing into today's youth, and hopefully help to stunt at least some of the wasteful choices of individuals later on in life when it comes to physical amenities, their age, and their features compared to something newer. even if they make him use a different muppet altogether, the muppet voice is all anyone needs to hear. it's perfect, and sticks with you. that's not something you easily forget.
MrMe01 yeah like we are gonna believe you
MrMe
Crushing that awful boom box with a road roller. Are you appeasing your inner Angry Video Game Nerd, 8-Bit Guy?
I was wondering if it improved the sound quality after the roller ran it over.
+MisterClaws It did actually.
Because it's silent.
Probably did.
Made a fantastic crunching sound, at any rate.
I guess everybody who takes us back to the past to show us some shitty stuff that sucks ass end up the same way...
Brunosky Inc. No but this is now thr hydraulic ptess channel. It can attack any time, we must deal with it!
The steamroller ending was so AVGN, I loved it! LOL
Yep...I'm usually against destroying things like that, but in this case it was a completely nonfunctional piece of crap that is completely useless for the purpose it was supposedly sold for. The only thing I would've personally done, is taken the speakers apart and snagged the magnets out of them before I crushed it.
| ROAD ROLLER |
That "boom box" really has about one use only: cheap radio for the garage, just for some background music while working on the car or whatever.
I have one of these. Un4tunately the tuner is very bad, only gets two stations. The whole unit is horrible. I forgot how painful D batteries are to unload, charge, and reload. The flash media poke out car and are just begging to be broken off. Recording from radio is awful.... I suspect it's using the microphone, not wires for rec signal!
It doesn't really even have that...this thing is literally "not fit for purpose", it doesn't do what it was advertised to do *at all*. It's completely useless as anything but e-waste, or taking apart the speakers and scavenging the magnets. Smashing it with a steamroller is more useful than the device itself.
Or maybe as a way to salvage parts for other projects, though I do think the quality of the individual components is much better than the unit as a whole lol.
@@DIYDSP Absolutely not using the mic. Probably you're just joking but there are lots of comments actually believing that's the case FOR REAL!
Then for the price why not buy any other radio
Was anyone else irrationally excited when Techmoan showed up here?
ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =)
Me too! :)
me
Warren Garabrandt both were in different continent
Yeah, but it is good to see a collaboration video occasionally. I enjoyed it.
Aww. For real crossover, you shoulda sent that thing to Hydraulic Press Channel.
Steve Fernandez omg yes
or the will it blend channel.
or to TechRax
To Ashens...
And that radio can attack us at any time, so we must deal with it !
I love how they put linear potentiometer for volume purposes (has to be a logaritmic one, just because that gradient needed)
Small comment: The MP3 technology did not become patent-free until 2017, so that a license was required until then, especially for the encoder technology. As far as I remember, the fees were also based on the supported sampling frequency.
Huh, guess that explains the bad quality
now that is some serious music compression @ 13:40 !!!!
The Left Hand lol
laugh hard here kkkkkk
I would expect to see something like that from shango066 lol.
The 8BG and Techmoan? That's just awesome. I know I'm a bit late to the party, but I sure would enjoy seeing a few more crossovers like this, perhaps even with other tech-channels.
You have my everlasting respect for getting a steamroller to run this thing over, I can't think of another youtuber who would think to do that and it was worth it.
Yeah that thing was horrible. Not even supporting stereo sound means it doesn't even take all the audio off of the tape. So not only is it making bad quality mp3's with a low sample rate, it's destroying half of the source to begin with. Aside from running it over with the steam roller, it would only be useful if you wanted to take it apart, I dunno maybe it had some capacitors or something that would be useful in another application.
@@StormsparkPegasus Or the cabinet and mechanism could be refitted with hand built quality stereo electronics that does what this claimed: Analog stereo amplification with X-bass circuitry from an expired 1980s patent, FM stereo reception based on the Kloss receiver design, MP3 and FLAC processing with a Ti BeagleBone based circuit and a navigation LCD behind the tuner scale. Etc. Etc.
“Ludwig v. Beethoven”
I see what you did there
The sound quality of that thing is like someone farting into a tin can.
Hey, if the tin can is of good quality, and the fartee drank lots of beer the day before tinning it; there could be some good bass happening.
Ubersnuber *slow claps*
Ah, that's by Bach, isn't it?
Shannon Gerry Never finish of Debussy. ALWAYS finish on the Bach.
@@Ubersnuber true
Dual Mono actually means it's treating the left and right as totally independent when encoding, that is it's essentially the same as two mono MP3s played at the same time with one going to the left and the other the right. Normally stereo MP3s use the fact that left and right audio signals are usually highly correlated to get better compression without loosing quality (or better quality at the same bit-rate).
So not only did it mix it down to mono it then wasted bits encoding the same thing twice.
Oh, and I thought someone had finally found a name for "mono sound coming out of both channels simultaneously", as opposed to the actual mono that is left channel only.
Damn it!
Love the crossover. Both of you guys are an attribute to the preservation of vintage gadgets. I'm a fan of both channels.
Awesome to see two great UA-camrs collaborating together for our entertainment. Love watching you guys!
Lol, after 13:45 I really bet the bass sounded even flatter ...
Hi Shawn haahah
HA, ITS FUNNY CAUSE IT'S TRUE!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
I get it.
sjm4306 i get it
Lol
2 youtube legends on 1 video. This is my best day
Same here.
feeling exact the same thing mate
Still no VWestlife.
I remember when mp3 was becoming a thing, I was hearing so many terrible mp3 recordings and I was furious that people were ditching CDs for crappy low bitrate mp3s.
But I’m glad that the majority of people a few years later noticed that and then tried to locate higher bitrate mp3s or FLAC.
I even know people who converted all their CDs to MP3 and end up throwing away the CD’s. That’s total ignorance right there because original CDs have better quality than MP3. I want to vomit when people do that. And especially when they record them at 128kbps or lower. 🤢
When people have poor listening devices, they may not even know what they are missing. I remember back when most video cards could only support 256 colors, people would recompress JPEG images to GIF and not know the difference.
I know a guy who has converted hundreds of his CDs to MP3. However, if he had not done this, he would not have sold many of his CDs to me for a dollar or two a piece. :)
I feel kind of glad that when I first started ripping CDs, I selected a lossless format (WMA Lossless)
several years later I ended up having to re-rip everything, as I didn't have a way of converting the lossless files into MP3, and I ripped it to MP3 (and I deleted the lossless files)
and now a few years after that ive ripped the CDs that I still have to FLAC (still have most of the CDs, the ones I dont have are ones I dont really care about, and I am also glad I was able to successfully rip the irreplaceable CD that is badly scratched to FLAC, which is a CD you CANNOT buy in any shops to my knowledge, and it seems as though there may be less than 100 copies of that CD, and NONE of the CD databases seem to recognise the CD, I dont even have the names for the tracks, as when I was given that CD it was not even in a proper CD case, and it seems to be a burnt CD)
I agree with you, this is why i did everything in FLAC. Worse thing is that there are many local radios that plays mp3, even through FM and audio treatments you can still hear the lossy compression.
To be honest, most people cannot tell the difference between a properly encoded 320 kbps MP3 and the equivalent raw PCM sound anyways. It requires both very fine ears and very high end equipment to tell the difference. So using MP3s is perfectly fine for most people.
@ *GayusSchwulius*
Yea. Most people.
But the point I’m trying to make is that the quality instead of getting better throughout the years it actually got worse with the introduction of the MP3 after having CDs with studio quality for such a long time.
I have yet to try out the DSD format though.
i know this is an old video but gotta love seeing techmoan in videos!
Ludwig V.Beethoven joke was worth it.
I was gonna mention that, I shall like yours instead =)
I chuckled irl
I know I'm late to the party, but that has to be the best joke I've heard from the TechMoan muppet crew.
Compressed sound at the end!
haha.. Yeah, I definitely upped the compression, didn't I?
you definitely *crushed* that dynamic range
Death Magnetic seal of approval
It wasn't lossless though, yoy can see some bits of plastic fly out of reach from the compression engine.
Have a +1 for making the sort of joke that I wouldn't get until I'm sat on the bus hours later laughing my arse off to the bewilderment of my fellow passengers.
The recording from the QFX machine sounds like AM radio. And I was seriously considering buying one of these before I watched this video. You saved me about $30 and a lot of headaches. Thank you.
It's been months since I first saw your video,and I love it and it's entertaining to watch!
An amazon review of the product that was ONLY the video of the steamroller would be hysterical.
One thing I found funny was how you suggested people make MP3 files at the end of the episode. I did the exact opposite in highschool!
A portable CD player was just not an option, and even if it were, I didn't own enough CDs. Copying my MP3s to tape and playing them on my walkman was much easier!
I did much the same back around 2000 because I still had a cassette player in my car.
I still use one of these in my car that has a cassette player:
images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51xadE%2BiqHL._SX300_.jpg
I plug it into my phone and the sound quality is good.
The 8-Bit Guy Similarly, I used to record Tracker modules to tape using the line in on a karaoke machine when I was in high school. 90 minutes of my favorite Demoscene music per tape...
I built an mp3 to cassette playthrough bug out of an old pair of earbuds and a cassette shell, worked great. OK the output was mono through the bug but I didn't have access to micron-precise wirespinning gear... yeah, just like that thing @25852Dan has.
I just finished watching the newest Techmoan's video about an obscure camera, glanced through Subscriptions list - and cool, a new video from the favourite youtuber, 8-Bit Guy! But clicking it and seeing "Feat. Techmoan"? What kind of sorcery is this? Really, the only missing thing is to send it out to EEVblog to take it apart and then to Ben Heck to make it into a handheld console with water fountain :D
haha.. I just met Ben Heck in person 3 days ago. I haven't talked to the EEVblog guy, though.
Cool.
dave is quite a guy and is verry responsive would love to see the two of you togther
i watch both videos just now :D
i'm a huge fan of these two guys
Then send it to Biclivedotcom, then ColinFurze to make it much more awesome, and have it reviewed by ColdFusion or Ahoy, then CaptainDisillusion, then after all that send it to Hydraulic Press Channel + SlowmoGuys.
thank you so much for the awesome closed caption. i’m glad you let people like me enjoy your videos :)
It's 2020 and I love the nostalgia. I have a SONY boombox that I use only in an emergency, mostly when I convert a cassette file to MP3, I connect the home stereo to the computer. I have problems with straight patch cords with RCA plugs because they produce a loud hum by themselves. I asked computer whiz Kim Komando about it and she recommended to me a unit by Xitel called the Inport Hotwire, which was a bit costly but does the job. I had the earlier version but when Microsoft updated their operating system, my previous version became obsolete and I had to purchase the new one which I believe cost about $70 American. I can happily say I have it a number of years with no complaints and am satisfied.
I found this video very entertaining and I am a subscriber to Techmoan's channel, he's a great presenter and has good taste in choosing old equipment. Rock on you guys!
Just give the radio to hydraulic press channel and let him deal with it
Actually.. I seriously thought about that. But I needed to finish this episode since it has been in production for 3 weeks, but I had to go out of town in the middle of it, which delayed it.
I started laughing at 9.32 when the distinctive sound of the 80's came out the Modern QFX's recording of an 80's sounding piece of music that originated on MP3.
You're home now MP3, safe and sound in good old 1985
"1985?!"
Hahahah!!!
I loved the content, and since I watch Techmoan, it was great to see Mat in there as well as the "extra content" in the end. Love it.
Techmoan made great job recording the tape!
Feels weird watching Techmoan in only 720p
Looked the same as usual on my iPad... Where I prefer to watch UA-cam.
Is that what that was? I was wondering. Time to make a video about it.
Your right. I noticed it didn't look as good on my 4K HD watch.
> only 720p
looks at personal devices: *1280x1024 desktop, 1280x800 laptop, 858x480 phone*
ten keks
OVD
>only 1080p devices
Looks at devices:
3840x2160 desktop, 2560x1440 phone, who needs laptop when you got phone.
ten keks
Universes collide! Like they did before with Techmoan and LGR. The end is near!
Send the boombox to EEVblog for a teardown.
:)
ö. . , now we just need to get all three in the same video.
420/911 cossover ideas, especially the duraga1 one.
druaga1 makes some of the most useless and insipid videos I have ever seen on this website. I do not see the appeal at all.
They're appealing because of how pointless it is (for the most part). It's entertaining to watch him dick around and trying to overclock his oven or whatever.
I think Bigclive would be a better one to tear this down, he'd go into much more detail with it than Dave ever would. It would be interesting to see if they just ran mono off the tape to the recorder/usb board.
Lol according to nyquist, that boom box recording at 22.05hz is giving you a maximum of a 10khz (11025) frequency response (as opposed to 20khz from 44.1 which we all know and love)
No wonder the high end is all gone!
Never mind. That crappy mono tape head from the boombox cannot playback frequencies higher than 11 kHz anyway.
I love this channel haha. Good quality entertainment and a good amount of schooling to just pick some stuff up. And comedy. Love the retro devices. They were before my time, and I wouldnt go out of my way to purchase one to restore unless a certain brand and model struck my eye, but I love seeing you do it. It's great entertainment
I'm blown away by the quality of that cassette tape though. In UA-cam quality you don't hear the difference to the original file at all!
You don't even need a fancy deck like Techmoan's to get a nice recording, you can get almost the exact same sound from any half-decent deck from the 70s or 80s, and you can pick them up really cheap. Cassette is underrated.
MrEthan520 Anonymous Let me just make sure I understood you right. In general, tessellated polygons are less intensive for the GPU as 'true' polygons, since they use a lot of the information from the original polygon that they were tessellated from. Right?
Problem with tapes is rubber, and all rubber gets old (hard) and causes trouble. Unless your deck doesn't use belts and does direct drive or something. Same problem with VCRs, rubber, and replacing it is not trivial, and the people who used to do it for a living, are pretty much gone by now. He has that very problem with his Panasonic. The cool thing about digital memory media, is they don't use moving parts anymore, and quality depends on dac, codec and digital compression settings.
That's true but when using a older tape deck, you don't have the fancy tape calibration so that It will sound exactly the same as the source. I've gotten some very good recordings on very very cheap tape decks from 80's and very bad results with others. But I've got lucky I guess.
yeah, cassette tapes can be very high quality media .. even I am still using them these days .. I record from wav or flac files only ...listening experience is much better than if I would listen to 192- or even 320 kbps mp3 ... I use chromium dioxide tapes ..occasionaly metal alloy tapes
The only time 8-guy has gone savage.
He has shot a ibook g4 with a airsoft
@@KvertoAnimations Where? I can't find it :O
Search "destrucion ibook g4"
@@Arcanattg ua-cam.com/video/K0DNEFwxW1I/v-deo.html
A very old one, guess it would not fit his style these days (well, to be fair it didn't back then either).
Well, there was that time he brought out his piece.
This device is made of a rare metal called "Chinesium"
No, this comment is not racist...
It's kinda true actually.
Got that right
It's not rare actually
QFX BRAND
CHINACRAP LTD
The thing is also mostly made of a rare plastic called “Chinopolymer”
Real men hold the recording device up to a speaker.
Real men use an old Samsung Convoy 2 flip phone to record music off of the radio before they had any smart device of any type.
Since 1996
Lmao i been there
Real men fall into a ditch and have their body never recoverd, therefore dying to mysterious circumstances
Real men remember the song through memory and hum it to hear it
11:57 Apparently AdBlock didn't pick this one up.
Lol
you get a cookie!
Lol
WOOOOSH
@@jonavene12 r/woooosh
The most brutal analog stereo review ever. I half expected you to burn it with gas
analog mono review*
"you can get ferric tape but. *visible cringe*"
I laughed at that for far longer than I should have.
He's become *such* a great, spontaneous presenter over the course of his channel. He can make about any subject sound interesting.
Ferric tape is awesome,just needs a decent deck to make the most of it
The only cassettes that are being made are mostly type 1 tapes.
@@howtobebasic2122 Yep !
the mp3 sounds like its been recorded in 8 khz
22050hz sample rate gives 11025hz signal which is not good for music but okay for speech.
yeah, like a landline telephone!
yikes
sounded like original eight bit computer sound!
Cmon, a SoundBlaster on Windows 3.11 sounds infinitely better. How do you screw this up this much?
8bit AND Techoan? In one video? My computer is melting down from the awesome...
That QFX radio sounds exactly like a low quality flash game
I love seeing some of my favorite UA-camrs collaborating!
After 13:45 it should say X-FLAT instead of X-BASS on it... lol !
A perfect example that even in 2017, there are still some really crappy Chinese products being produced over there. Despite their huge improvements in the electronics market over the last decades.
I wouldn't cost them anything to fix it either but if they are tonedeaf and thinks 64 k mp3 is good - only variable mp3 around 100 k has the smallest size to sound good.
You get what you pay for. Honestly though, I still would've expected better for even $30.
now 2019
I just wanna be fair here and say *just because* something comes from china doesn't mean it's going to be bad quality, but as is said, you get what you pay for, so if you buy a cheap box, expect it to sound like crap.
I remember a time when "Made in Japan" meant really crappy quality.
You gotta be kidding me lol. First I stumbled across 8-bit guy, which led me to The Obsolete Geek and they just happen to be friends, then some time later started watching Techmoan and now they're collaborating. Awesome!
Great episode - Keep 'em coming Mr. 8-Bit Guy!
That melody from the test track is actually suuuuper 🔥🔥...!! Was NOT expecting it to be so catchy and quite honestly, just a realllly really well composed n badass lil theme. Damn, really love that composition..!!
8-Bit, is this your music?? Really well done and production great too. But that melody/synth chord line... 🔥🔥 love it
Also, not that it matters (just an observation), the overall *pitch* of the track gets a littttle higher (& sliiightly faster tempo) when played from the Tascam, and then even more so from the monstrosity that is the “X-Bass”... Doesn’t really matter thatttt much, n most ppl prob won’t notice/care lol, just thought I’d mention it just cuz it’s there.
Fantastic vid btw
Regarding what you are saying about it being LEGAL to record from the radio to a tape "back in the good old days"; here in Norway, a fund was set up when the cassette tape came to the marked and the goverment put a dedicated tax on all new blank cassettes. The specail tax went straight to that fund and the redistributed to the official Norwegian corporation that administers copyrights for music in Norway, so that artists got some portion of the "lost money" because of "piracy" (it was later continued to blank CDs). I've also read that the Swedish goverment did the same thing.
So, yes, it was "legal" by not being a law against it here, but still, we paid for it in some way.
Today's fun fact!
i agree of that, my country (Portugal) recently applied that for storage devices. I prefer that than prosecution for downloads. In this information age, downloading is the bane of society.
Here in South Africa, it's officially illegal. It never stopped anyone but there yer go.
The Danish government did the same for blank CDs.
Same thing in Poland. The CD burners, xerox machines and everything that has recording features has copyright levies included in price. I am not sure about smartphones, computers etc.
chaugan I guess if you would market that tape as a "tape for programs for computer" or something like that you could ommit this tax xd
Thechmoan got a sweet audio setup
I've been going through your older videos and was thinking to myself that you really should do a collaboration with Techmoan, as I felt you two would work very well together. Imagine my surprise when I ran across this gem! Then I saw that LGR commented on this as well. Now I want to see the three of you do something together!
Dual - Mono?
Hmm. I think it records in mono and adds another channel with the same audio. Think about this: You have Audacity running and in this programm You have a Beatles mono track. Then You add the same Beatles mono track and You make it a stereo track. This thing does the exact same.
Isn't "dual mono" a format intended for two audio languages in one TV broadcast. Like original US English news on audio channel 1 and a Mexican Spanish version on audio channel 2 on a TV station near the border.
@@johndododoe1411 Possibly
I mean realistically when we listen to mono, it’s basically automatically converted to dual mono just so we can hear on both ears. Though I’d be interested to see if the metadata is just weird, or if it’s a true 2 channel audio file. But MP3 is such a horrible format that it becomes hard to tell. You’d need access to the recorded file. Or anything that this machine spits out
@@minecraftWithDanielD True. You just pop it in audacity and there you can see the differences between the channels.
@@minecraftWithDanielD I've seen true mono files in audacity. There's only 1 waveform. We could see the waveforms for both channels in the video.
Just because the sound was a bit flat, does not mean you had to make the machine flat. LOL
Mark Anderson if the Sound would have been only a bit flat
Honestly it was like a quarter tone sharp
The ending was extremely satisfying
Reminds me a bit of the Angry Video Game Nerd for some reason, but without any of the cursing or the anger.
Yes, right, let's just destroy a bad piece of hardware out of frustration instead of properly recycling it into something more useful. In my opinion, the destruction was pretty pointless.
Reminds me of Malcolm in the Middle, when the dad uses one of those to crush lightbulbs and all kinds of stuff just for fun.
Thanks for making this video, I have a boom box that records to thumb drive, but haven't used that feature yet. I will look record a track from an audio tape and check the sampling rate and the other things you mention in this video.
7:02 David facial expression is like
“Someone kill me.”
Nah, this is him listening to techmoan singing get lucky
8-bit-guy + Techmoan = Awesome Content
"'Infinity War' Is The Most Ambitious Crossover Event In History"
Me: This video...
This video has been memed to death, so much so that I can no longer watch it without hearing “Nine dollars, which is a lot of money” and so forth
Excellent vid. It's surprising how many don''t realise that the poor sound on their gear is due to the bitrate and so many other factors used that record or play low quality sound. Streaming is another example when the bit rate compression et can be poor. I use a phono/audio RIAA pre amp to record to software on my PC as it maintains a decent signal level for recording from ie tape deck, record turntable, other audio outs et Some audio outs don't deliver enough signal without boosting or amplification. I also like the RIAA system. 👍
I had to laugh a lot when I saw the steamroller. Great video!
I was laughing so hard I cried a little.
ROADU ROLLA DAAAA!
You should see 8Bit's last girlfriend... not a pretty sight. Anyway... let's get back to steamroller comments!
aww u should've had bigclive or EEVblog take it apart
Photonicinduction should just fry that crappy modern boombox
Josh Rice sure, after bigclive or eevblog reveals its innermost secrets
Douglas Walrath just needed big clive to open it for inspection and more epic electrical destruction
Ben Heck and co. could use it for salvage wars 2
What happened to Photon? He reappeared for all of a month and then vanished in a cloud of plasma.
Thank you for the collaboration/tech destruction video; fantastic!
Dude crossovers EPIC love both of these channels.
5:58 oh my god I love that Nixie tube display
I don't see the problem with the "eject" button not working on the original boombox... why would you ever want to change tapes away from the Ghostbusters soundtrack?!
copyright issues.
Because one could have been foolish enough to accidentally put a non-Ghostbusters cassette!
i had this problem in a car , the tape was faith no more king for a day abum .
@@Architector_4 Those who are foolish enough to do so are banished from listening to Ghostbusters cassettes.
Still an issue, since the unit has no auto.reverse...
It is always a pleasure to watch your video! thx
I think I should say thank you for keep me from wasting money on it. Actually I was just 1 step from placing an order on this the moment watch your video . Now I have a GE 3-5263D boombox on the way, plus shipping is $65, seller said it all works, hope it will not disappoint me.
Poor old "TechMoan" doesn't get a link in the description?!
Anyone else disappointed there's no smell-o-vision when the new cassette was opened?
You are right, using Audacity and some cassette player I digitaliced one of my favorites old cassettes, thank you so much, almost at the end of the video you gave us the easiest way to do it. I really enjoy your work, thank you again.
It's better with an external audio card. Computer input often adds some noise. Also using a walkman is not the best choice, a cassette deck is better. I should have different options like chrome and Dolby B to play such tapes correctly. And don't use mp3 at the end, it ruins everything.
It's always nice to see collaboration episodes, and the tape player got what it deserved at the end.
You should have done a Teardown of the low quality one...
Or mail it to some Australian guy ;)
What's his name? Small olive?
XD
Dave :D
(eevblog)
Stefan Payne Oh, I thought you meant bigclivedotcom. He's from the UK, though.
I'm pretty sure Dave is tired of cheapo electronics on mailbag. He's groaned sooo many times at cheap-ass multimeters & cameras. I do love this Electronics-UA-camr-collab stuff though, Techmoan ending made it even greater than anticipated.
Clive would love something like this so long as it was purchased on ebay from China.
This has got to be one of my favourite youtube collaborations since Big Clive and Ashens.
@Aiden can you send me the link
MAN ALWAYS DREAM WITH WATCH VIDEOS LIKE THIS WITH SPANISH SUBTITLES. YOU'RE MAKE MY DAY!!!! THANKS SO MUCH!!!!
And thus, the 8 bit guy and Techmoan beef YTPs were born!
Not mentioned is at 9:07, a good amount of flutter happening. The pitch seems a touch higher too.
I noticed that as well. Techmoan talks about this a lot when reviewing cassette players. That cassette mechanism is garbage. But it's to be expected since they simply don't make good quality cassette mech anymore. There's a reason Techmoan still uses that deck from the early 90s, quality went downhill after that.
@@drumguy1384 Well, I have a mid-2000 Sony stereo component that has a cassette player and the mechanism is pretty good. There's a noticeable lack of high frequency response and no selection for chrome/metal tapes and no ability to record to metal tapes, but nothing to say about the level of wow & flutter and azimuth stability, in fact, the mechanism looks almost the same as a mid 90's Pioneer deck I have, so it might be leftover stuff from older decks.
I love both your channel and Techmoan, so this was extra great. Also, nice job “Americanning it up” by crushing the bad boombox to distorted electric guitars!
Finally tackling my watch later list. Can't believe its taken me this long to watch this gem! 😌🙏
love this kind of lovely maked channels. Greetings to Techmoan to!
Nice. I enjoyed seeing techmoan turn up. Big fan of both you guys.
Who isn't though am I right? How can you *NOT* love these two?!
That recording is so rubbish that I can hear the sheer badness of it just with my laptop speakers! The ending of the review was SO satisfying...and I think you improved the functionality of the unit in the end. ;)
And the sound quality too
Or from mobile phone speaker..
I transferred my old tapes years ago by plugging in my tape player audio jack into inputs on the back of my computer and recording on a software called Goldwave. I then used noise reduction, made sure the volume wasn’t too loud during the initial recording and did a fade out at the end to reduce tape hiss.
Took the algorithm years to reccomend this to me despite following both creators
Same here.
They are variety creators of sorts (repairs, cleaning, documentaries, etc.)
YT probably doesn't think that music related things interest someone like you. (Despite it being retro stuff)
techmoan's boombox time capsule video showcased something just as bad as this but made in the early 90s
Jack Newton I must have missed that one!