Yeah, Paige would later tell Kim (after she got their hearing moved earlier than six weeks) that Chuck was a jerk arguing about the address and making that response.
Any time chuck is questioned or criticized he’ll just say the absolute worst thing. Remember when Jimmy was telling people about his client outreach and Chuck interrupted everyone by questioning Jimmys tactics on how he got those clients. Any time Chuck says anything it makes everything worse just to make himself feel better.
Tbf you need to see it from his perspective, imagine spending hours seeing and typing out “1216” as stated on the “original” paper, just to be told it’s 1261. It’s still not a good response but he’s so sure of 1216 bc that’s literally what it was, thanks to Jimmy. People act like he couldn’t admit his mistake but there literally was none bc he was straight up sabotaged and Jimmy covered his tracks well so it makes Chuck look like he can’t take responsibility and blames Jimmy for everything instead
@josephstalin2606 True but at the same time you still need to act professional otherwise you're gonna make yourself look like a jerk which Paige would bring up later on with Kim including making that response. However, Chuck shouldn't even be practicing because of his mental illness which concerned Howard even here he was watching Chuck have some reaction after the hearing fell apart.
Definitely, Chuck may not have made a mistake but just the audactiy to assume that you are incapable of making a mistake is insane. Especially to then shove the fault onto a very high-profile client like Kevin Wachtell.
You know that technically he did not do any mistake. He based his documents on forged ones (by Jimmy) wih 1216 as adress. This was then later swapped again by Jimmy so that there is no evidence. While Chuck is an ass. He did not do a formal mistake there.
Honestly no matter who's side he was on, Howard was always a real one, throwing himself in with allowing the error to happen instead of JUST the "office full of associates" was classy af
At the end of the day, Howard was introduced as a dick, but his crime was being too nice. Too willing to go above and beyond to humor Chuck's wishes and his personal vendetta against Jimmy.
@spdewertton Yeah could've easily refused to make himself look like the enemy to Jimmy for years. Not saying he deserved what happened to him but he could've save himself the hassle on not helping chuck manipulate Jimmy for years.
@@Guyvermectinstop what?! lol a small mishap and background details and relationships make a simple hearing super dramatic?! Maybe you don’t know good writing
Howard is so well written. He is so a upright character, when his company makes a HUGE mistake and upsets the client, he dont blame anyone and just be "mistakes happens, lets lear our lession and move on"
He issssss, he didn't deserve what happened to him, it just solidifies how low Jimmmy and Kim would go for the con. Howard is truly the good guy in the show, albeit a bit uptight at times.
The show made such a good job of making we hate Howard right until his death, it was only when Lalo shot him for being at the wrong place at the wrong time that the audience realized "wait, he didn't deserve ANYTHING that happened to him, he was actually a pretty stand-up guy"
What a terrible lawyer Chuck was mixing up 1261 with 1216. He could've used an important event to make it easier to remember, like 1216 is just one year after Magna Carta. You'd think Chuck would know about that.
I wouldn't even stop there, I'd say it's out of character of Chuck to not double check and make sure everything is correct, especially for a client this big. He was so humble and attentive in the first season, but maybe his pride and ego was starting to get to him. Maybe he didn't think it was worth the effort. Bravo Gould...
@@snowarmth What? This is exactly in character for Chuck. Chuck would never need to double check something so trivial as a number because Chuck in his mind does not make mistakes. In all honesty, he is better at law than anyone in the show. He is like the Superman of the legal system so he simply would never make a mistake. Which is the truth, he did not make a mistake and he knows it. That's why he instantly knows it was Jimmy
Well, it was well deserved when Chuck basically tells him he is wrong and to double-check again initially... he just used the same condescending comment back to chuck
Regardless of the fact that Jimmy forged the documents, it was wrong of Chuck to accuse his client of "muddying the waters" and also wrong if him to assume the commissioner can't read a simple document, especially in his tone when he said "I think if you double check you'll see that 1216 is correct". It just reeks of condescension.
Chuck's main attribute is also his main flaw: he's a genius and he knows it. He's arrogant and condescending because he thinks he's smarter than everyone around him and he usually is.
@@occamschainsaw3450 Chuck's knowledge of the law is potentially matched only by Jimmy. Howard is a great salesman but a middling lawyer. Kim isn't stupid, but she needs to work and grind far more than Chuck (understandable, given his years of experience). He manages to snatch the client from Kim by demonstrating his superior expertise in finance and banking law, he lost them with his condescending arrogance.
Even though we the audience know that Chuck was duped, this still was a big mistake on HHM’s part to let Chuck handle all the paperwork himself, knowing he was working in these living conditions.
Like Howard said, they had paralegals and Howard himself looking over it too that could have caught it. Instead they filed it without catching the discrepancy. It's such a subtle, easy to miss mistake in the literal boxes full of paperwork. Jimmy likely didn't even know it would blow up this badly, he just knew that Chuck's ego and perfectionism would come out when confronted with it, and reveal his flaws as a lawyer to his clients so they might go back to Kim. Whether in court, or as in-fighting at one of the HMM meetings with the client. Just like the battery scene, the thing Chuck's freaking out about isn't as big of a deal as he's making it out to be. It's his vengeful lashing out that is the big deal.
It clearly does, as this is an extremely lazy mistake to make. I mean he clearly has no idea what the correct address is. Definitely something that a guy who has severe mental acuity problems triggered by electricity should not be handling alone at all given the complexity of the case.
The hubris on this guy. He couldn’t admit to a mistake so much that when he heard the word, he automatically thought of Jimmy (though he is right, it’s just astounding).
To be fair, it wasn't just "a random number he didn't recall but was simply convinced he couldn't make a mistake". It was "a very memorable number for him (the Magna Carta is a cornerstone, perhaps THE cornerstone, of modern law and definitely something Chuck would have strong opinions on) and he remembers it and knows what it was". He knew it was 1216 (one after Magna Carta). It would be like if I tried to convince you that Bryan Cranston wasn't the actor that played Walter White. You'd be like "WTF why are you trying to gaslight me? I don't need to double-check to know that he was". Jimmy had assumed that Chuck would merely chalk this up to clerical error and move on. It never occurred to him that "1216" would be memorable and meaningful for Chuck enough for Chuck to be certain. Gaslighting metaphorically, but also literally, killed Chuck McGill. He literally died from gas light.
well kim foght her guts out to get masa verda, if chuck was a good guy he would have let kim have it since she got them so serves chuck right, and karma is a bitch
@@stridertherangerwoof Do you really think Chuck would’ve let Kim have Mesa Verde? Kim and Jesse have so many parallels. Jesse at one point tried to get Gus to buy his product by using Walt as a reference. Walt, like Chuck, was insulted by his mentee wanting to get a meet with his new boss.
He's one of the best all around performers in the world, imo. Top notch dramatic acting, comedic acting (Spinal Tap, Best in Show, A Mighty Wind), and a talented multi-genre musician.
Love how Chuck tries to talk down to EVERYONE in the room and is put in his place. I am sure they would have gotten a provisional approval if Chuck had not insisted twice that both this Client and the committee just had the reading levels of a 5-year-old. You can really hear how sick he was of hearing it 4 times when he said "It's up to you folks to submit accurate paperwork"
The entirety of Breaking Bad turned on Hank discovering something minor while taking a dump. It's all mundane. That's why paying attention is so important. You nailed it -- these scenes are what make both shows so good.
My favorite part of better call saul, its how it made the most simple conflicts in something big. This scene its just a number switch but it feels way more than that
@@chill3282 The "wasn't anything harmful" drug ended his career basically. If anyone drugs me with the intent to destroy my career, I would consider serious retaliation.
@@chill3282 Bro he dosed him with stimulants what the fuck are you talking about If youre referencing a drug dealing vet saying "how well it works is based on his tolerance to coffee" I think you need to get your brain checked
Howard logically refuses to believe the absurdity of Chuck’s story. Then a few seasons later is in Chuck’s position trying to convince people his incredible excuse explaining a major legal meltdown was in fact the truth. Slippin’ Jimmy is just too damn good at what he does. Right or wrong.
It’s a tragic irony that Chuck was essentially a father figure/Best friend and yet fell victim to the toxic lawyer business. Chuck brought his destruction on himself. Howard while he did try to redeem himself ultimately fell due to his determination on keeping his fathers legacy alive.
@@masterzombie161 What? No lol. His downfall was siding with Chuck too often which made Jimmy hate him that much more. Not to mention the fact Chuck respected Howard which is the one thing Jimmy always wanted. Howard did nothing wrong dude.
@@chill3282 bro what you said coincides what I said. Howard chose to side with chuck because his father and Chuck were best friends, when his father died he turned to chuck and he became sort of a father figure/best friend to him. Also he knew if Chuck were to leave or sue like he did he knew his firm, his father’s legacy would be in jeopardy. So yea you tried to disagree with me but you sort of just elaborated on what I said. Howard did not deserve to die, but he wasn’t entirely innocent and had selfish reasons on siding with chuck and punishing Kim, and it was for HHM, his father’s legacy.
@@chill3282in actuality, Chuck never respected Howard. When Howard tries to make Chuck retire, Chuck tells him “I tutored you for the Bar exam.” Howard will always be Hamlin’s kid to Chuck.
I like how Chuck is all butt hurt that Jimmy went behind his back and manipulated the files when he waited until Jimmy was asleep in season 1 to call Howard on Jimmy's phone and tell Howard not to give Jimmy the job. It was honestly revenge.
@@luliu4572 That and the fact he complains about being left delirious and alone, ignoring the fact that the last time Jimmy stayed the night to make sure Chuck was okay he just laughed at him for being late for work. That and the fact that his whole argument hinges on the fact that he *wasn't* delirious. Guess he's fine calling himself crazy so long as it makes Jimmy look bad.
As someone that has worked with very big people in the military, and made mistakes like this in front of other people like this, you can feel the anger through their clothes. Even if they don't raise their voice. But when they do, it gets scary.
Anyone can do this, though. The trick to flexing your memory is to associate words and phrases with something similar to help you remember. We all do it, and as Chuck said it's how he remembered fluidly that the numbers were different than what he saw. It's how he knew he didn't make such a basic mistake. And when your career is lived in paperwork, you HAVE to remember details to the letter. Hence, situations like this.
crazy how jimmy puts his victims in a situation where they know exactly who jimmy is and what he has done but if they tell that to somebody , they sound like a maniac. happened with both, chuck and howard
I love Chuck's brief wince when he touches the microphone at 1:25, which is immediately followed by his abrupt response to Paige. He tries to hide his discomfort being in the room with the electronics on top of the stress of the mistake and ends up lashing out. Then we hear the gradual crescendo of electric buzz as he feels his control of the situation slip further away, ending in that incredible overhead shot of the gigantic light with him looking small beneath it. Its things like this that separate a good show from a great one for me.
@@rmcphail2007the worst thing Howard ever did was try to remain loyal to one of his oldest and closest friends, of course he was loyal to a fault but that is just his nature as a good person.
@@mcgfn put kim in the dog house for something jimmy did, and when she got a big client he kept her in the doghouse. and stole "HER" client when he got a chance
All of the horribleness that happened in Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul could have all been avoided if Chuck hugged his brother more and took him under his wing. Go Land Crabs.
I think it is very obvious by the later seasons, that Jimmy was always like this. Chuck was in now way a good brother, but Jimmy always did what he wanted, not taking into account about how others would suffer the consequences. This started all with the conman who visited his father's store.
@eimran1178 That also applies to Chuck. His arrogance led to his downfall especially with the insurance situation Howard knew he had to force Chuck out because he doesn't think about other people that get harm by his actions and only thinks about his own benefit.
Can we all just appreciate the amazing acting talent of the great Michael McKean? Lenny Kosnowski in Laverne & Shirley, David St. Hubbins in This Is Spinal Tap, Chuck McGill in Better Call Saul… So underrated. A Hollywood legend.
Hilarious…I’ve never heard that before 👏 Seriously..make your own jokes/opinions and stop recycling trash. You’re literally creating the end of the movie Wall-E
The way chuck ignored his clients and told them they are wrong without listening to them was disrespectful. Also no one gives enough credit to Howard who doesn’t like to point fingers as he cares about the firm’s image. He really went above and beyond to make moral is high.
Goes to show just how unstable the Law actually is. You make one mistake no matter how small it will set not just you back but everyone you represent back and look bad. By just changing a number it set them back so far and now have to set their schedules around it. Chuck preaches how much the law is sacred and Greatest achievement, but we’ve seen in both breaking bad and this show that it’s just as flawed as any other business.
@@santed.4109 You’re right. The Law is absolutely perfect in every way. Our justice system is completely fair. Hey, are you in the market for a bridge? I would gladly sell you one
Howard's right about taking the lessons from mistakes moving forward but Chuck was right, and he double checked that number. It would be terrifying if he made a mental note of that number so many times and was still wrong.
@@professionalmemeenthusiast2117Chuck is losing his mind, he's suffering from a delusion that's severely impacting his ability to function and lead a normal day to day life. He should be receiving psychiatric care and not being indulged and allowed to work with major clients.
Chuck made a mistake. He was working by lantern lights, squinting over 10-point type for hour after hour. Mistakenly changing 1261 for 1216 would be the most natural thing. And instead of just facing up to it he accuses his brother of plotting agains him...
The thing is, this wasn't a "mistake" per se, because Chuck never saw 1261, only 1216. After Jimmy forged the copies or whatever, the only number that Chuck ever read was 1216, never 1261, its not like Chuck typo'd the number in, or was misremembering or something, in his eyes there was technically no mistake, because there was only 1216 - One after Magna Carta. Its also probably how he catched on it was Jimmy instantly
@@lightningstrike885 It's still his mistake because as named partner he's responsible for making sure mistakes like that can't happen. Establishing source of truth on facts on projects like that is pretty trivial to set up. Instead of having that central source of truth that's immutable and quick to check using a computer, his insistence on avoiding electricity is what allowed Jimmy to make the change in the first place.
@@Snyder9e His brother Slippin Jimmy stole the documents and forged copies with the wrong address before giving them back to Chuck in an effort to embarrass him and delay his efforts, which is what you see unfold here
A smart person would have realized it was Jimmy, taken the licks as Howard suggested, and move on. Move on from Jimmy as well. But he just had to be right. Had to prove to everyone how terrible his brother is. He could have confidently walked away, but that's why he ultimately fails as a person. He just couldn't let someone he felt was beneath him get a win over on him..
I do wonder how far Chuck would’ve gone if Jimmy had gotten the idiot at the copy shop to lie for him the first time. He covered the house interior with aluminum foil just to get Jimmy on tape.
Can you imagine if that guy was in a really good mood that day and decided to give them the provisional agreement? So many lives would've been changed.
They way the light burns Chuck after the adjournment, I thought the last scene of this show would be Jimmy on the run still, hiding somewhere, now homeless, a shell of his self, and the last shot of the show is him looking at a light as it starts to make the same noise, meaning he now has chucks affliction
The fact that from Howard’s POV he was completely correct and supportive of chuck but chuck was also 100% in the right when he figures out who did it is insane to me
It's incredible the parallels between the end of this scene, with Chuck realizing Jimmy was behind it, and the scene with Howard and the mediator, where he realizes that Jimmy was behind that as well. Both Chuck and Howard come off as crazy to their peers, despite being 100% correct.
That’s the evil genius of Saul Goodman. Hatches these ridiculously convoluted ass schemes where he has Full plausible deniability while making a complete ass of whoever his target is. And there’s nothing they can do about it
Defeated by University of Samoa
SCAMOA is best University i swear
GO LAND CRABS! 🦀
“And he went to Hofstra” 😂
online classes ftw
U of S and the streets of Chicago.
"YOU are mistaken, and mudding the waters"
Attorney or no, you don't ever talk to a client like that, Chuck was just the worst.
Yeah, Paige would later tell Kim (after she got their hearing moved earlier than six weeks) that Chuck was a jerk arguing about the address and making that response.
Any time chuck is questioned or criticized he’ll just say the absolute worst thing. Remember when Jimmy was telling people about his client outreach and Chuck interrupted everyone by questioning Jimmys tactics on how he got those clients.
Any time Chuck says anything it makes everything worse just to make himself feel better.
Tbf you need to see it from his perspective, imagine spending hours seeing and typing out “1216” as stated on the “original” paper, just to be told it’s 1261. It’s still not a good response but he’s so sure of 1216 bc that’s literally what it was, thanks to Jimmy. People act like he couldn’t admit his mistake but there literally was none bc he was straight up sabotaged and Jimmy covered his tracks well so it makes Chuck look like he can’t take responsibility and blames Jimmy for everything instead
@josephstalin2606 True but at the same time you still need to act professional otherwise you're gonna make yourself look like a jerk which Paige would bring up later on with Kim including making that response. However, Chuck shouldn't even be practicing because of his mental illness which concerned Howard even here he was watching Chuck have some reaction after the hearing fell apart.
Definitely, Chuck may not have made a mistake but just the audactiy to assume that you are incapable of making a mistake is insane. Especially to then shove the fault onto a very high-profile client like Kevin Wachtell.
Unbelievable that such an experienced lawyer as Chuck would make such a schoolboy mistake, he should probably think about retirement.
You know that technically he did not do any mistake. He based his documents on forged ones (by Jimmy) wih 1216 as adress. This was then later swapped again by Jimmy so that there is no evidence.
While Chuck is an ass. He did not do a formal mistake there.
Chuck did retire.
He’s living in Belize now.
I just hope he doesn't get all burned up about it
@@timovangalen1589you win with this comment
He was gaslit into retirement!
Honestly no matter who's side he was on, Howard was always a real one, throwing himself in with allowing the error to happen instead of JUST the "office full of associates" was classy af
thats how i am at my warehouse. even if it was my employees faults, i take the heat - re-train, and next time its their mf ass
At the end of the day, Howard was introduced as a dick, but his crime was being too nice. Too willing to go above and beyond to humor Chuck's wishes and his personal vendetta against Jimmy.
@spdewertton Yeah could've easily refused to make himself look like the enemy to Jimmy for years. Not saying he deserved what happened to him but he could've save himself the hassle on not helping chuck manipulate Jimmy for years.
@@imgrindin as someone who worked for a boss like that, people like you inspire me to be a better leader now that I'm in charge of a group of guys :)
When a Navy ship runs aground, it's the captain who gets fired.
Can we just acknowledge how incredible it is that this show can make something as mundane as a commercial regulatory proceeding feel so dramatic?
Bro stop
@@Guyvermectinstop what
@@FinalCountdown-oz8pc Stop liking the best show of all time.
@@Guyvermectinstop what?! lol a small mishap and background details and relationships make a simple hearing super dramatic?! Maybe you don’t know good writing
@@Guyvermectinsaid your power bottom
Howard is so well written. He is so a upright character, when his company makes a HUGE mistake and upsets the client, he dont blame anyone and just be "mistakes happens, lets lear our lession and move on"
He issssss, he didn't deserve what happened to him, it just solidifies how low Jimmmy and Kim would go for the con. Howard is truly the good guy in the show, albeit a bit uptight at times.
@@manuelito1233 sadly he's aiding Chuck dirty games so he's deserverd
So, why does he put Kim in doc review every time she makes a mistake?
@@pliniojr95 Because Chuck said so
The show made such a good job of making we hate Howard right until his death, it was only when Lalo shot him for being at the wrong place at the wrong time that the audience realized "wait, he didn't deserve ANYTHING that happened to him, he was actually a pretty stand-up guy"
What a terrible lawyer Chuck was mixing up 1261 with 1216. He could've used an important event to make it easier to remember, like 1216 is just one year after Magna Carta. You'd think Chuck would know about that.
I wouldn't even stop there, I'd say it's out of character of Chuck to not double check and make sure everything is correct, especially for a client this big. He was so humble and attentive in the first season, but maybe his pride and ego was starting to get to him. Maybe he didn't think it was worth the effort. Bravo Gould...
I heard they don't really teach you about the history of the law in those online courses. Must be where chuck got his law degree from.
Everybody makes mistakes. Just move on with your life.
Jimmy set up him idiot chuck was innocent
@@snowarmth What? This is exactly in character for Chuck. Chuck would never need to double check something so trivial as a number because Chuck in his mind does not make mistakes. In all honesty, he is better at law than anyone in the show. He is like the Superman of the legal system so he simply would never make a mistake. Which is the truth, he did not make a mistake and he knows it. That's why he instantly knows it was Jimmy
That mid level civil servant was ice cold: "maybe next time double check"
Was just being kind when putting it that way.
He wasn’t being cold, he wasted their time.
Well, it was well deserved when Chuck basically tells him he is wrong and to double-check again initially... he just used the same condescending comment back to chuck
@@jameslisle7775 Ice cold can refer to being dead serious and unapologetic as well.
Regardless of the fact that Jimmy forged the documents, it was wrong of Chuck to accuse his client of "muddying the waters" and also wrong if him to assume the commissioner can't read a simple document, especially in his tone when he said "I think if you double check you'll see that 1216 is correct". It just reeks of condescension.
I like how the Commisioner says it back in the end. "Maybe next time, double check."
@@DaScorpionStingOh me too!! I love it!
Chuck's main attribute is also his main flaw: he's a genius and he knows it. He's arrogant and condescending because he thinks he's smarter than everyone around him and he usually is.
@@Mister_Belvidere We never actually seen him being a genius tho. Nor have we seen him being smarter than anyone. Quite the opposite, usually.
@@occamschainsaw3450 Chuck's knowledge of the law is potentially matched only by Jimmy. Howard is a great salesman but a middling lawyer. Kim isn't stupid, but she needs to work and grind far more than Chuck (understandable, given his years of experience). He manages to snatch the client from Kim by demonstrating his superior expertise in finance and banking law, he lost them with his condescending arrogance.
Even though we the audience know that Chuck was duped, this still was a big mistake on HHM’s part to let Chuck handle all the paperwork himself, knowing he was working in these living conditions.
Like Howard said, they had paralegals and Howard himself looking over it too that could have caught it. Instead they filed it without catching the discrepancy. It's such a subtle, easy to miss mistake in the literal boxes full of paperwork. Jimmy likely didn't even know it would blow up this badly, he just knew that Chuck's ego and perfectionism would come out when confronted with it, and reveal his flaws as a lawyer to his clients so they might go back to Kim. Whether in court, or as in-fighting at one of the HMM meetings with the client. Just like the battery scene, the thing Chuck's freaking out about isn't as big of a deal as he's making it out to be. It's his vengeful lashing out that is the big deal.
But not really...
One thing has nothing to do with the other.
It clearly does, as this is an extremely lazy mistake to make. I mean he clearly has no idea what the correct address is. Definitely something that a guy who has severe mental acuity problems triggered by electricity should not be handling alone at all given the complexity of the case.
@@pugachevskobra5636 "extremely lazy mistake". Guy that didn't watch the show???
The hubris on this guy. He couldn’t admit to a mistake so much that when he heard the word, he automatically thought of Jimmy (though he is right, it’s just astounding).
It's not really astounding and there was no mistake to admit to. It's not even hubris in this instance. Jimmy hardcore fucked him.
To be fair, it wasn't just "a random number he didn't recall but was simply convinced he couldn't make a mistake". It was "a very memorable number for him (the Magna Carta is a cornerstone, perhaps THE cornerstone, of modern law and definitely something Chuck would have strong opinions on) and he remembers it and knows what it was". He knew it was 1216 (one after Magna Carta). It would be like if I tried to convince you that Bryan Cranston wasn't the actor that played Walter White. You'd be like "WTF why are you trying to gaslight me? I don't need to double-check to know that he was". Jimmy had assumed that Chuck would merely chalk this up to clerical error and move on. It never occurred to him that "1216" would be memorable and meaningful for Chuck enough for Chuck to be certain.
Gaslighting metaphorically, but also literally, killed Chuck McGill. He literally died from gas light.
He couldn't find a way to properly blame Jimmy without sounding crazy to everyone else
@@BravoDoxwell written comment but “he died from gas light” is making me laugh so hard rn
It's not hubris if he's right. He was being gaslight in the worst of ways.
“It was Jimmy. He switched them. Somehow he switched them.”
Nobody move! Evidence has been tampered with!
he defecated through a sunroof!
well kim foght her guts out to get masa verda, if chuck was a good guy he would have let kim have it since she got them so serves chuck right, and karma is a bitch
@@stridertherangerwoof Do you really think Chuck would’ve let Kim have Mesa Verde? Kim and Jesse have so many parallels. Jesse at one point tried to get Gus to buy his product by using Walt as a reference. Walt, like Chuck, was insulted by his mentee wanting to get a meet with his new boss.
He defecated through a SUNROOF!
The actor who plays Chuck is so good! Great acting.
Michael McKean is the best.
He's one of the best all around performers in the world, imo. Top notch dramatic acting, comedic acting (Spinal Tap, Best in Show, A Mighty Wind), and a talented multi-genre musician.
Lenny from "Laverne and Shirley"
Love how Chuck tries to talk down to EVERYONE in the room and is put in his place. I am sure they would have gotten a provisional approval if Chuck had not insisted twice that both this Client and the committee just had the reading levels of a 5-year-old.
You can really hear how sick he was of hearing it 4 times when he said "It's up to you folks to submit accurate paperwork"
And then he adds, “Maybe next time double check.”
He DEFECATED through a SUNROOF!
Some fans of Breaking Bad have said they don't like how much the prequel focuses on the mundane, but personally I love these scenes.
The entirety of Breaking Bad turned on Hank discovering something minor while taking a dump. It's all mundane. That's why paying attention is so important. You nailed it -- these scenes are what make both shows so good.
My favorite part of better call saul, its how it made the most simple conflicts in something big. This scene its just a number switch but it feels way more than that
Jimmy did the same switcheroo at the last second with Howard and the photos of Judge Casimiro.
And he drugged Howard
@@DaScorpionSting
Yeah but it wasn’t anything harmful. Just felt like a strong cup of coffee and made his pupils dilated. I get your point tho
@@chill3282 The "wasn't anything harmful" drug ended his career basically.
If anyone drugs me with the intent to destroy my career, I would consider serious retaliation.
And Howard had the same reaction to blame Jimmy for everything even though he couldn't prove it.
@@chill3282 Bro he dosed him with stimulants what the fuck are you talking about
If youre referencing a drug dealing vet saying "how well it works is based on his tolerance to coffee" I think you need to get your brain checked
Howard logically refuses to believe the absurdity of Chuck’s story. Then a few seasons later is in Chuck’s position trying to convince people his incredible excuse explaining a major legal meltdown was in fact the truth. Slippin’ Jimmy is just too damn good at what he does. Right or wrong.
It’s a tragic irony that Chuck was essentially a father figure/Best friend and yet fell victim to the toxic lawyer business.
Chuck brought his destruction on himself.
Howard while he did try to redeem himself ultimately fell due to his determination on keeping his fathers legacy alive.
@@masterzombie161
What? No lol. His downfall was siding with Chuck too often which made Jimmy hate him that much more. Not to mention the fact Chuck respected Howard which is the one thing Jimmy always wanted. Howard did nothing wrong dude.
@@chill3282 bro what you said coincides what I said. Howard chose to side with chuck because his father and Chuck were best friends, when his father died he turned to chuck and he became sort of a father figure/best friend to him.
Also he knew if Chuck were to leave or sue like he did he knew his firm, his father’s legacy would be in jeopardy.
So yea you tried to disagree with me but you sort of just elaborated on what I said. Howard did not deserve to die, but he wasn’t entirely innocent and had selfish reasons on siding with chuck and punishing Kim, and it was for HHM, his father’s legacy.
@@chill3282in actuality, Chuck never respected Howard. When Howard tries to make Chuck retire, Chuck tells him “I tutored you for the Bar exam.” Howard will always be Hamlin’s kid to Chuck.
I like how Chuck is all butt hurt that Jimmy went behind his back and manipulated the files when he waited until Jimmy was asleep in season 1 to call Howard on Jimmy's phone and tell Howard not to give Jimmy the job. It was honestly revenge.
I wish Jimmy brought that up. It would've been awesome to see Chuck to go silent on that point.
@@luliu4572it was impossible for Chuck to be silent himself until he kicked over that Coleman lantern.
@@luliu4572 That and the fact he complains about being left delirious and alone, ignoring the fact that the last time Jimmy stayed the night to make sure Chuck was okay he just laughed at him for being late for work.
That and the fact that his whole argument hinges on the fact that he *wasn't* delirious. Guess he's fine calling himself crazy so long as it makes Jimmy look bad.
Both jimmy and chuck can be assholes but fuck me chuck is easier to dislike.
The actor that plays Wachtell is so good. He conveys seething anger so well, I'd be terrified to deal with a powerful person like that in my life
As someone that has worked with very big people in the military, and made mistakes like this in front of other people like this, you can feel the anger through their clothes. Even if they don't raise their voice. But when they do, it gets scary.
Kevin and paige turned their heads to Chuck when he said the numbers 😂
😂😂😂
Still can't believe this has never won an Emmy
clearly jimmy orchestrated the lack of awards.
@@scottmatheson3346And those Emmies! Are you telling me that a great actor just happens to not get rewarded like that? No, he orchestrated it, Jimmy!
One after magna Carta as if I could ever forget. Never. Never.
sick joke!!!!
As much as I dislike Chuck, dude had a solid memory.
Yeah he saw the address multiple times while typing out the filing, also his way of remembering “one after Magna Carta.”
Anyone can do this, though. The trick to flexing your memory is to associate words and phrases with something similar to help you remember. We all do it, and as Chuck said it's how he remembered fluidly that the numbers were different than what he saw. It's how he knew he didn't make such a basic mistake. And when your career is lived in paperwork, you HAVE to remember details to the letter. Hence, situations like this.
as unpleasant Chuck may have seem, he's not a bad guy in the show. Especially compared to Saul.
He is the one who made slippin jimmy come back@@surfingtothestars
Slippin jimmy was always there, and he was always going to pop up
Chuck just accelerated the process@@AlurKuy
crazy how jimmy puts his victims in a situation where they know exactly who jimmy is and what he has done but if they tell that to somebody , they sound like a maniac. happened with both, chuck and howard
*"He defecated through a sunroof."*
Well he took advantage of Chuck's mental illness and with Howard he drugged him which helped make him look more crazy.
I love Chuck's brief wince when he touches the microphone at 1:25, which is immediately followed by his abrupt response to Paige. He tries to hide his discomfort being in the room with the electronics on top of the stress of the mistake and ends up lashing out. Then we hear the gradual crescendo of electric buzz as he feels his control of the situation slip further away, ending in that incredible overhead shot of the gigantic light with him looking small beneath it. Its things like this that separate a good show from a great one for me.
I like how you can see Paige immediately look at her book to check once Chuck mentioned 1216.
As a lawyer, I love the legal scenes in BCS. The only show I’ve ever watched that discusses things like bank regulations, Westlaw, and fraud statutes
Try Goliath. You'd like it.
Poor Howard. He was cursed.
He asked for it.
@@rmcphail2007 Two McGill brother hanging around your neck? Yeah, he's a lawyer but fuck....
@@rmcphail2007What exactly did Howard do to deserve everything that happened to him?
@@rmcphail2007the worst thing Howard ever did was try to remain loyal to one of his oldest and closest friends, of course he was loyal to a fault but that is just his nature as a good person.
@@mcgfn put kim in the dog house for something jimmy did, and when she got a big client he kept her in the doghouse. and stole "HER" client when he got a chance
All of the horribleness that happened in Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul could have all been avoided if Chuck hugged his brother more and took him under his wing. Go Land Crabs.
Legit
I think it is very obvious by the later seasons, that Jimmy was always like this.
Chuck was in now way a good brother, but Jimmy always did what he wanted, not taking into account about how others would suffer the consequences. This started all with the conman who visited his father's store.
@eimran1178 That also applies to Chuck. His arrogance led to his downfall especially with the insurance situation Howard knew he had to force Chuck out because he doesn't think about other people that get harm by his actions and only thinks about his own benefit.
The static slowly getting louder is driving nuts
It’s such a good touch
one after magna carta
*Alternate ending*
Howard: Everyone makes mistakes
Chuck: You're right
*The End*
*Baby Blue starts playing*
"It's Jimmy, i know somehow he switched those numbers if i could ever make such a mistake. He's the magic man, better call Saul."
0:33 Kevin's bewildered face 😂
“Everyone made a mistake”
Chuck: *JIMMY!!!*
Can we all just appreciate the amazing acting talent of the great Michael McKean? Lenny Kosnowski in Laverne & Shirley, David St. Hubbins in This Is Spinal Tap, Chuck McGill in Better Call Saul…
So underrated. A Hollywood legend.
It's criminal, this show didn't get any Emmys..
And he gets to be a lawyer? What a sick joke!
Hilarious…I’ve never heard that before 👏
Seriously..make your own jokes/opinions and stop recycling trash. You’re literally creating the end of the movie Wall-E
@@StopSayingGaslit He defecated through a sunroof!!!
Come on Chuck, it's 1 year after Magna Carter as you could ever forget.
The way chuck ignored his clients and told them they are wrong without listening to them was disrespectful. Also no one gives enough credit to Howard who doesn’t like to point fingers as he cares about the firm’s image. He really went above and beyond to make moral is high.
The Commissioner is Gordon Leitvol from L.A. Noire, best game ever!
That's where I know him from! Thank you for clearing that up.
Kevin Wachtell really is the client from hell if you make a mistake as his lawyer. You don't want him to be pissed off with you.
Michael McKean so nailed this character...he really is a solid performer.✌️
Leave it to a show like this to make a planning commission meeting interrupted by a typo into a compelling scene.
"YOU are mistaken, and mudding the waters" - Chuck had been right for his whole life, so he just can't accept criticism.
Goes to show just how unstable the Law actually is. You make one mistake no matter how small it will set not just you back but everyone you represent back and look bad.
By just changing a number it set them back so far and now have to set their schedules around it.
Chuck preaches how much the law is sacred and Greatest achievement, but we’ve seen in both breaking bad and this show that it’s just as flawed as any other business.
The flaw was in the filing not the law. People are busy and cant stop moving because others dont double check their work.
@@santed.4109implying the law in this country is not inherently flawed LMAO
I agree. For instance. Hank should've opened the RV when he had the chance.
@@santed.4109
You’re right. The Law is absolutely perfect in every way. Our justice system is completely fair. Hey, are you in the market for a bridge? I would gladly sell you one
@@mcgfn He didn't imply that at all, actually. Funny how bad people are at actually reading.
I thought Kevin was a side-sitter but he is clearly sitting straight forward here
I love the optimistic, happy go lucky way in which chuck says to the mesa verde people "well let's find out" 😂😂
You can tell Chuck's problems are psychosomatic when his condition clearly worsens as he feels like he loses control of the situation.
1:41 I know where my own damn bank is.
Who ever made the mistake, maybe tghe intern or maybe the associate, you own up to it, especially when the clients are saying so.
Love how this scene shows his condition is linked to his mental health and stress, confirming its all in his head
God this show is good, the exact moment Chuck realizes Jimmy's shenanigans, the electricity allergy kicks back in.
Howard was such a great guy. Didn't deserve anything that happened to him. He was the only character i felt bad for in the end.
Howard's right about taking the lessons from mistakes moving forward but Chuck was right, and he double checked that number. It would be terrifying if he made a mental note of that number so many times and was still wrong.
Yeah, either someone conspired to trick you or you're losing your mind entirely
@@professionalmemeenthusiast2117Chuck is losing his mind, he's suffering from a delusion that's severely impacting his ability to function and lead a normal day to day life. He should be receiving psychiatric care and not being indulged and allowed to work with major clients.
Chuck made a mistake. He was working by lantern lights, squinting over 10-point type for hour after hour. Mistakenly changing 1261 for 1216 would be the most natural thing. And instead of just facing up to it he accuses his brother of plotting agains him...
The thing is, this wasn't a "mistake" per se, because Chuck never saw 1261, only 1216. After Jimmy forged the copies or whatever, the only number that Chuck ever read was 1216, never 1261, its not like Chuck typo'd the number in, or was misremembering or something, in his eyes there was technically no mistake, because there was only 1216 - One after Magna Carta. Its also probably how he catched on it was Jimmy instantly
@@lightningstrike885r/youmissedthejoke
@@lightningstrike885 It's still his mistake because as named partner he's responsible for making sure mistakes like that can't happen. Establishing source of truth on facts on projects like that is pretty trivial to set up. Instead of having that central source of truth that's immutable and quick to check using a computer, his insistence on avoiding electricity is what allowed Jimmy to make the change in the first place.
Superb acting all around, absolutely brilliant.
why there are no comments 😭 this scene is gold
Its so perfect that no one has anything to say
@@TheLizardSK i would like some context tho, since i have not watched to show, is this error done by purpose or was it a mistake?
@@Snyder9e His brother Slippin Jimmy stole the documents and forged copies with the wrong address before giving them back to Chuck in an effort to embarrass him and delay his efforts, which is what you see unfold here
@@Snyder9e Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad are both top tier shows, would recommend giving them a watch.
This was the moment I knew I was watching one of the greatest shows of all time.
"thats the best pirate i ve ever seen"
- 2:12
another win for the Land Crabs 🦀
He knew it was 1216, as if he could ever forget. Never. It had to have been slippin jimmy
Bro the client is telling you what is the correct address
No, the lawyer knows always better.
I love the little detail of when Chuck first gets shaken he hesitates to touch the live mic.
Chuck, not only grilled by electricity, but also by the Commissioner.
0:26 I love how Kevin and Paige snap their heads to Chuck as soon as he says “1216”.
You can hear the white noise creeping in more and more from the florescent lights whenever Chuck thinks of Jimmy
Chuck is a lot like Walter. A genius of his craft who let himself get carried away by his ego.
The neon lamps getting louder is a nice touch.
For this both Chuck and Howard were murdered by Paige. So tragic.
A smart person would have realized it was Jimmy, taken the licks as Howard suggested, and move on. Move on from Jimmy as well. But he just had to be right. Had to prove to everyone how terrible his brother is. He could have confidently walked away, but that's why he ultimately fails as a person. He just couldn't let someone he felt was beneath him get a win over on him..
God Chuck was such a great and well written character
I do wonder how far Chuck would’ve gone if Jimmy had gotten the idiot at the copy shop to lie for him the first time. He covered the house interior with aluminum foil just to get Jimmy on tape.
"Are you telling me numbers just happen to change like that, no! he orchestrated it! Jimmy!"
I love his face when he finally realizes it. MEGAN!
Scottsdale Arizona. Just funny for me. I live in AZ. So then bringing up a city just feels cool lol
"There is some sunroof defecation afoot..." -Charles McGill
Michael McKean is a fantastic actor
Can you imagine if that guy was in a really good mood that day and decided to give them the provisional agreement? So many lives would've been changed.
Jimmy knew where Chuck was vulnerable -- he hit him right in the pride.
They way the light burns Chuck after the adjournment, I thought the last scene of this show would be Jimmy on the run still, hiding somewhere, now homeless, a shell of his self, and the last shot of the show is him looking at a light as it starts to make the same noise, meaning he now has chucks affliction
3:09 When the Groundhog sees its shadow on Groundhog Day!
Even with Jimmy’s sabotage, Chuck could have emerged from this okay if not for his big ego.
Jimmy…
HE DEFECATED THROUGH A SUNROOF!
I thought it was Scholz and Chuck on the thumbnail 😭
Professionalism at its peak
"Maybe next time double-check" probably went through Chuck's heart as he's the most prepared man in that world.
This is why you'd always have someone else double check, but Chuck probably didnt think he'd need it.
2:50 in fact you can hear the mechanical buzzing in the room grow in volume when he says that
Ughetta da right address and come back in 6 weeks
The fact that from Howard’s POV he was completely correct and supportive of chuck but chuck was also 100% in the right when he figures out who did it is insane to me
Magna carta
And 1216 Rosella Drive gets to have a bank? WHAT A SICK JOKE!
“One after Magna Carta!”
Jerry: Newman!
Chuck got so angry he put on his tin foil and became Super Chuck!
How can he make such a mistake? It's 1216, one after Magna Carta.
It's incredible the parallels between the end of this scene, with Chuck realizing Jimmy was behind it, and the scene with Howard and the mediator, where he realizes that Jimmy was behind that as well. Both Chuck and Howard come off as crazy to their peers, despite being 100% correct.
That’s the evil genius of Saul Goodman. Hatches these ridiculously convoluted ass schemes where he has Full plausible deniability while making a complete ass of whoever his target is. And there’s nothing they can do about it
that's the guy who was in massive gambling debt in that one L.A. Noire case!
ONE. AFTER. THE. MAGNA. CARTA.
as someone who has no idea what is going on, i have no idea what is going on.