9MM +P UNDERWOOD (LEHIGH) DEFENDER AMMO REVIEW
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Extensive review of the 9mm +P Xtreme Defender, 90 grain non-expanding solid copper ammo produced by Lehigh Defense and distributed by Underwood Ammo. Firearms used are the Glock 43 and Glock 19.
Video includes overview, comparisons to the Xtreme Penetrator, chronographed velocities, recoil demonstration, test shots using ClearBallistics gel, and evaluation of those shots. All of this information presented in less than 7 minutes. Holy Crap.
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Amazing how a handgun round developed and in use for over 100 years is still being improved upon.
What more people should know is that there's a 51 page multi-bullet/caliber analysis for law enforcement (entitled: 2016/17 JOINT AGENCY BALLISTICS TEST FOR DEFENSIVE HANDGUN AMMUNITION) that reached the following unqualified conclusion about the Underwood Xtreme Defender (when compared to 71 different mainstream handgun rounds in 8 calibers): "Overall: This was by far the most impressive round tested. After over a year of testing this round became the most requested round to test after some of the agencies reviewed draft shot data." and "The radial flutes increase tissue pressure and direct the tissue outward to increase wound diameter. ... tests confirmed that in over 100 shots the measured wound channel was not only larger than that of an FMJ but in most cases was the largest wound channel produced in that caliber compared to all other rounds to include fully functioning hollow points." and "All rounds in all calibers tested penetrated 15.2 - 20 inches with and without barriers. " and "Every single shot did roughly the same thing. There is a 0% chance of failure to function because there can be no failure to tumble or expand (because they don’t) and no chance to fragment. This was the most Reliable and Consistent round tested." It's discussed on p. 32-33. That's why I've moved all my 9mm pistols and PCC's with less than a 5" barrel to the Underwood XD 9mm 90 gr. +P, and my .380 ACP to the Xtreme Penetrator 90 gr. (because the very short barrel of the .380 requires a bit more oomph).
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Thanks for this information it helped me in the selection of this ammo for my EDC
Great thinking. I read the same report. Why take chances with a 25-30% failure rate in JHP plus XD’s are barrier blind. I prefer +p+ in 9 and +p in the 90gr XP. These rounds in 357SIG are ferocious.
Your vids have reached such a high quality and professionalism that I wouldn't be supersized if the FBI fired all there R and D teams and just sub to your channel.
+M AR I don't want anyone to lose their job, but I'm receptive to working in Quantico VA. It might be at the Walmart, but I'm receptive to the concept.
Wouldn't be supersized, huh? lmfaooooo
Gotta love swype + autocorrect!
I have looked at a lot of different tests with these now and I am very interested. You are getting the best of all bullet designs. The feeding of a FMJ, the lack of pass though of a JHP, the lack of plugging of an FMJ, and the cavitation damage of a JHP.
Agreed. I run these fluted rounds in all of my primary defensive rounds (i used the ones from Grind Hard Ammo). Barrier blind, good penetration (but not too much), and consistent results regardless of what medium you are shooting through (denim, plywood, even glass). This fluted ammo is everything I want in a defensive round.
@@applepie1911e , they feed _just like_ fmj in my Sig & my Wilson. have you had other results?
Their 380 penetrators are game changers. Removes the major problem for that caliber. Have them in my 42. I like the idea of a non mechanical bullet with no moving parts. Less that can go wrong. Lehigh is a very creative company and are leading the new wave of bullet construction. Will check these rounds out.
+M85FSLUVR have you compared these to the ARX 380? I just got some 380 Xtreme Defender to check out in my Mustang which I currently carry the ARX in
+Ronald Moreau I have. I prefer the UXD over the poly case less wound track deviation. The ARX has a tendency to arc downwards. Not a huge issue but if you are trying to hit vitals. I prefer it stay on target as it were.
They're fantastic. All I carry anymore. Be it 10mm, 40, 9mm, 45 and 380. Been loading a few in my 9x25... Got it just over 2000 fps
+M85FSLUVR I totally agree the 380 line from Lehigh has breathed new life into that caliber.
I picked these up after I saw how consistent they were when going through different materials on MAC's video. He shot them through a thin piece of metal and they still performed the way as if they were just going through denim or nothing. I thought that to be interesting enough to purchase a few of these rounds.
excellent reviews...i appreciate just straight forward video production without the fluff and music and over production like others go over the top with. informative data and information in here, great job!
So glad you're back. Your ammo reviews are unparalleled in data, and presentation is great too
Yeah he's def the UA-cam authority when it comes to bullet ballistic gel tests lol
Yup, having written the specifications for the handgun service ammunition for a federal agency, I can truly say that the Underwood Extreme Penetrators are a quantum leap forward in terminal ballistics.
Getting ready to try the 65 grain +p, and 90 grain +p, and +p+ in a Ruger LCR 9mm revolver. It's a really short barrel so hopefully one load will be super sonic.
It is however kind of pricey. Even when compared to other high quality HP rounds. It is however a good choice for short barrel 45 acp or 380 pocket carry guns. Less desirable though in 9mm where it’s not really a necessity..
@@silverhorder1969 the most recent unclassified reports show that the 90g + gave the absolute best PWC in 9mm, doubling the best results of the best hollowpoint. This is through both barrier/non barriers as well as denims test.
@@TerminalM193 the 90 grain +P?
@@iZephiroth Yes and No. Yes if given a 3"-3.5" barrel platform and no for anything a over 3.5", primarily the 3.7-4.5 range.
I've seen enough tests and now yours, to make this my new EDC round. I'm convinced, this stuff is for real.
Having a nice and clear ballistic gel show the bullet travel much much better. Also, makes it kinda 3D looking. The quality of the video is superb. Nice to see how a 43 compares with a 19 running a SD ammo tru it. Thanks again!
where these are far superior to any hollow point is their interaction with bone and hard dense material. HP's are abhorrent in their reaction to bone and even worse when dealing with windshield (or any other for that matter) glass. This is my carry ammo now. great review.
Not all JHPs are created equal. Many bonded rounds handle automotive glass and sheet metal quite well. While I think the there is a niche for the Xtreme line, I haven't been convinced that their terminal ballistics is vastly superior to FMJ, much less on par with or superior to JHPs as Lehigh claims. For my own niche, I don't need or care for top-tier intermediate barrier performance. Certainly not at the expense of wounding capacity.
To each their own.
@@SaftonYT terminal ballistics is kind of a meme for pistol calibers, most surgeons cant even tell the difference between FMJ and JHP wound tracks the point of hollow point expansion is largely to create drag retard penetration they have an added benefit of potentially nicking and artery but due the elasticity of organs, skin and muscle its unlikely.
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@@nemisous83 bingo. The slower a bullet moves, the smaller the permanent crush cavity is relative to the diameter of the expanded/non-expanded slug.
The joint agency ballistics report of 2016-2017 showed that these bullets (specifically the +P and +P+ varieties in all common calibers) outperformed ALL traditional hollow points including the big three (HST, gold dot, CD) in wound cavity volume and barrier performance...the most interesting thing to note is that they created larger wound cavities than any hollow point in any caliber both in gel *and* in meat.
They went on to do an extended test of these types of copper bullets but the information was LEO/Mil only so I have no clue of the results. There are even some agencies that have switched to using these rounds over traditional HPs.
@@SaftonYT read this report from the 2016/2017 defensive handgun ammo report that did the most testing on all handgun ammo rounds and you might change your mind img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/b2161a32-695e-4a4e-baa2-209a9a981c67/downloads/1cm0blukf_477512.pdf
Wow I have to say that I'm pleasantly surprised by the results. I was not expecting that level of consistency between shots, and no over-penetration like I was anticipating. Thanks for doing these tests!
Thank you,so happy your able to do videos again,I appreciate the time and effort you put into these.
Consistent is a good word for this ammo.
After all this time your vids remain the best. Mainly because you shoot more than one bullet, thus replicating your results. This goes a long ways in validating those results. Nobody else does that, making their results "questionable". I miss your tests and really appreciate you doing them, thanks.
I wanted to post a big “Thank you” for this test. It’s partly what convinced me that the standard pressure (SP) Xtreme Defender is the ideal personal defense round for my purposes. I understand your reasons for wanting the extra penetration of the +P round, but I’m concerned about over-penetration, and the XD SP load solves that. Thanks again!
Picked up a box of these and got similar results, also in clear gel. I hit bare gel and would say penetration was an inch deeper on average. Bordering on over-penetration, but the advantage is it should be truly as "barrier blind" as a bullet can be. Not my new carry load, but I'm keeping my remaining 16 of them in my safe as backup ammo.
The quality of your reviews is much improved since you came back - awesome work on that, keep it up.
+Mira Lausch
Agree 100%
+Mike Uman Putting multiple dhots in the gel is the most important part, as ShootingTheBull pointed out.
And, by the way, does anybody know, what happend to him?
I've left like 3 comments on UA-cam in my life, and this is one of them. You get straight to the point and thoroughly answered all the questions I had. Well done sir.
Good to have you back. Really neat vid especially, with two different barrel lengths and the same round.
Extreme Defender is the only defensive round I'll ever carry, unless someone somehow improves on Lehigh's efforts.
Still carrying it? I haven’t found anything that can out preform it. I run it in my 92c.
@@TacticalPeace Yes. That's not likely to ever change unless Underwood and/or Lehigh go out of business.
Why spend money on a gimmick round that overpenetrates, doesn't expand, and is a threat to innocent bystanders? Kinda goofy wasting money on these
We'll just have to agree to disagree. It doesn't overpenetrate, doesn't need to expand because that's not how the scalloped projectile is designed to work, is no more a threat to bystanders than any other hollowpoint, therefore, it isn't goofy and isn't a waste of money..
@@DB-sd3cw hey this is military arms channel review on the round. ua-cam.com/video/ClJcJ8LQFbQ/v-deo.html I think you will be surprised on how well it preforms. I think you are mistaking this for another round. Only negative I have on this is will be a bitch if you have to fire while in a car. It’s a hot one
I'm glad you started doing videos again all the other gel test videos seem to be lacking yours are the best and my go-to for ammo testing for my concealed carry
Tn, you should start a patreon to buy a high speed camera. I would donate and I bet a lot of others would as well. You are hands down the best information on ammo on the internet! Another great vid.
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I'd put in on that.
I'd put in on that.
i will donate as well, i've heard about your videos at trade shows and stores alike, your videos are the best i've ever seen, so informative and educational, you deserve to be paid for all you've done for the manufacturers as well as for the public, if you're not being compensated for what you're doing then these companies should be ashamed of themselves because they're using your videos as a providing video of their product, so dammit if you want a high speed camera i'm on board to help make it happen, thanks.
+Catherine Harris Adsense covers product expenses, but no profit to speak of since I take time away from other things to do this. Thanks for the offer. I've been called an idiot for not taking people's money!
So glad you are back. Your reviews have been extremely helpful over the years.Thank you for your time and thoughtful work. It is appreciated!
Great test, with spot on camera angle, lighting, and clear gel used. Probably one of the best ballistic tests I have seen using gel to see every single detail.
I am a big fan of Underwoods Extreme Defender. I truly believe that you would enjoy testing the Extreme Defender 9mm 65 grain version that chronographs at ~1800 fps!
I think they've swapped those out for 68 grain now.
Best ammo reviews on UA-cam,thank you sir!!
TN...YOU REMAIN THE BEST OF THE BEST for ammo testing on the net...let us know if you need anything...appreciate your concise...very detailed accurate info...ie velocities...penetration and recovered etc
I have purchased the Lehigh rounds in both .380 and 9mm and here are my thoughts. The expense of the round is roughly twice the standard jacketed hollow point from Underwood. Penetration is better (+ 10%). Wound channels are very similar. I didn't feel the extra cost was worth any extra penetration in the 9mm; however, in the .380, where both penetration and cavitation are much improved (as much as 25% with the Lehigh round) it's a clear winner. In fact, jacketed hollow points in the .380 are counter-productive. So, I've decided to use the Lehigh in my .380 and the 124 grain gold dot or XTP in my 9mm.
Thanks! Great video. I've been waiting for you to review this one. The one thing the FBI protocols don't consider is barrier penetration, particularly bone. Most hollow points, even the best ones, fail to expand reliably when a bone simulant is placed in front of the gel. These rounds have no problem with bone and most other barriers. They work every time.
This is the ammo that I use. It was the only ammo to pass every test with every agency, in every caliber, barrel length and test medium of ballistics gel and animal cadavers both with and without barrier penetration. Look up the 2016/2017 Joint Agency Ballistics Test For Handgun Self Defense Ammo. It’s a 52 or 53 page report and on pages 32 and 33, break down the Underwood Xtreme Defender ammo. The ammo is unbelievable and leaves a larger primary wound channel than any fully expanded hollow point in the same caliber. Especially in animal cadavers to simulate real life shooting scenarios where a threat needs to be stopped. You also get less recoil but continued accuracy even after barrier penetration and distances greater than 25 yards. I’ve tested out to 50 yards and found them to be still just as accurate. And the velocity of this ammo is much greater than traditional ammo.
Yup I saw the same report. This and civil defense are all I carry.
Animal carcasses are a pretty poor testing medium.
@@rifleshooterchannel208, that’s why multiple test mediums were done. And with every type of bullet and caliber used in the test, so you have comparable data across the board.
@@j.r.777 Yeah but comparable and repeatable are two different things.
Animal carcasses are not repeatable. Shooting into non living tissue is kind of silly too, considering they had access to gel.
@@rifleshooterchannel208, they used multiple text mediums including ballistics gel. Ballistics gel gives you a nice consistency but animal cadavers give you more realistic results. That is also why every round fired was fired into similar sized pieces. Measurements were done and all numbers recorded with the minimum, maximum and average size wound channels. The same was true in the ballistics gel as well. Here’s the thing. I’m never going to be attacked by a block of ballistics gel. But an animal and/or a human, the possibility exists. So while I can look at the ballistics gel data for its numbers, I can also look at closer to real world numbers from that data as well.
just wanted to say I'm stoked that you are back making ammo evaluation vids!
yours are the standard by which other ammo vids are judged.
I love you videos so much, awesome production quality and very professional high quality testing procedures. I imagine this kind of testing isnt so cheap to do, I am really appreciative your work!
+Visitor I am also curious if this would make the list for your top 3 (or so) 9mm loads, i have seen the video you did where you went over your favorites. This seemed like a good performer what additional considerations do you have for a round like this compared to say, the Federal 147 grain HST loads ?
Troutdoors9, I am glad that you are back to making videos. I have always enjoyed them. Thank you very much.
If you would have used the FBI 10% gel blocks you would have measured the same exact depth but your cavitation diameter would measure 2.6” which extends about 12 inches. Massive wound cavitation.
Very interesting design for that bullet. I’ll go ahead and get some while I still can. Unfortunately, I live in the Soviet Union. California as you guys might call it? I never go light for caliber with the exception of the all copper bullets from Barnes, but this bullet penetrates to a perfect depth and no clothing is going to affect it because of its design. Like always, your videos are spot on and tells us what we need to know.
Thanks again and best wishes!
I have these rounds stuffed into my Glock 26 and XD Sub-Compact but in standard pressure. I like that I’ll get the penetration I need and the rounds being solid copper will help with that. I have no issue with them being light for caliber seeing as how they’ll penetrate as much as any other bullet weight in that caliber. If I were using standard hollowpoints, I’d go with 135’s to 147’s. As for Underwood, I’ve shot plenty of their stuff and it’s really great ammunition. And no, I am NOT being paid by them. They don’t even know who I am or that I’m making this statement. Anyway, as always this was a great video tnoutdoors9 and thank you kindly for sharing!
God speed
What sets the Defender apart is it is barrier proof...most notably with plywood and sheet metal tests that deform most hollow points and render their expansion cancelled. The HST and Gold Dots seem to do well with these two barriers and most all other leading hollow points fail these two tests...so HST and G.D. are the top choices for L.E.O's . I prefer the Defender due to it's fluted design that also works on ALL barrel lengths , including SBR's and AR's , where greater velocities ruin the other hollow point's expansion capabilities ( since they are designed to operate at handgun barrel lengths / corresponding velocities ). I also find the Defender softer shooting so for me it just edges out the HST and Gold Dots which are still my #2 and #3 EDC choices.
Great video TN. I'me glad you're back.
This is what I load my G45 with. There is virtually no recoil and it is without question, the most accurate handgun round I have ever shot. Plus it's lead free so you don't have to worry about lead exposure when handling the ammo. Great stuff.
IMHO, when it comes to pistol ammo penetration testing on UA-cam, "TNOutdoors9" has always been the best.
This is now the load I will be carrying in my 9mm Luger 3.6" and 4" EDC pistols.
Thank you, and good things! 👍
Hearing you talking about Underwood and penetration got me thinking about Sara Underwood
lol I like your way of thinking.
mafia jimmy I would like to preform some "testing"
Sounds like you have a personal problem.
Missed you, brother. Missed you, indeed.
thanks again, I really miss your channel....
From a combat tactical perspective, these are outstanding. being barrier blind is a highly valuable aspect.
I just discovered your channel good to see someone from my home state help me out on my ammo choices! I turned 21 rather recently in the Memphis area and am getting my conceal so THANK YOU!
Finally, the best ballistics testing is back!
Very happy you are back at it making vids! I also just got a Glock 43 and I am running Gorilla's new Silverback line of ammo, its 115 grain and looks very close to a Federal HST. Shot it 2 days ago through my G43 and there was almost no recoil. There aren't really any videos reviewing this ammo and would be thrilled if you did a review on Gorillas Silverback ammo in 9mm soon. Thanks!
+Ronald Moreau ok i will look again.. But what I meant by they look like HST's is the the bullets appearance before its shot looks a lot a like. Hope @tnoutdoors9 does a review on Gorilla 9mm SD ammo soon
So glad to see your back at testing
REPOST from Dennis Anderson- The XD does not work in gel because gel doesn't compress or liquefy, so people claim it doesn't work. In real tissue the nosecone creates a super-cavitation bubble (Google it) which expands the tissue around the bullet and reduces drag. This allows the bullet to maintain it's velocity and rotation as the flutes redirect compressed liquefied tissue outward at up to 75% faster than the speed of the bullet. It acts like a rotating water jet blasting surrounding tissue as the bullet passes. Super-cavitation is incorporated in missile and torpedo design and a water jet can cut through 3" of steel. This is proven technology. The “2016/17 Joint Agency Ballistic Test For Defensive Handgun Ammunition” says "Overall: This was by far the most impressive round tested".
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"Many of our testers wondered if vectoring real compressed tissue sideways into tissue would actually destroy that adjacent tissue that is not directly in the path of the projectile ... we can confirm that this technology works extremely well in actual animal tissue with or without barriers. Remember that hollow points expand because tissue which fills the hole in the hollow point is compressed to such a point that the outward pressure inside the bullet pushes and tears the metal and forces it outward where friction then takes over to complete the expansion. If tissue can be compressed to the point of tearing metal (hollow point) then tissue can certainly be compressed to the point of tearing tissue. The Phase 4/5 tissue tests confirmed that in over 100 shots the measured wound channel was not only larger than that of an FMJ, but in most cases was the largest wound channel produced in that caliber compared to all other rounds to include fully functioning hollow points"
glad to have you back
2 yrs old now. There is now in 2018 a 9mm +P+ Xtreme Defender. 90 grain, rated at much higher velocity. I wud like to see a chrono & penetration vid of this, also vs 3A & III armor
Man, this stuff looks pretty good! Super high velocity, good energy, and deep, but not over penetrating. I haven't found anything more impressive than critical duty up to now, but this looks like something I might want to carry.
To me the gold dot is as good or better then critical duty but it’s a great round to
Awesome test!!! Really surprised at the irony around the G43 making a deeper penetrating shot over the Glock 19!!! Goes to show that polygonal rifling DOES help Glock Pistols as well!!
I am so happy you are back!
"Bulletproof" new format. Love all of it. Excellent review!
I think it's some of the best stuff out there. Some people "CLAIM" the impressive wound channels in gel won't be the same as wound channels in people yet they love certain types of JHP ammo because of impressive sound channels in gel. This stuff doesn't have to worry about expanding to do what it's supposed to do.
glad you are making videos again. Does that mean that your health improved?
Glad to have you back!
So happy you're back!! Thanks! You're the best!
I know this will just get lost in the comments, but sometimes when I am home alone I like to go out in the garden and cover myself with dirt and pretend I am a carrot.
+TheCowboyfromhell87 Glad to know I'm not the only person who does that.
Best video I've seen on this ammo. It actually looks like a contender for defense. Good to see you back at work doing the vids we love. Thank you!
Love the testing format - including short barrel and standard length, multiple shots with each.
This pretty much sells me on these projectiles. I prefer heavy for caliber loads for their deeper penetration. Light weight, fast expanding hollow points scare me a little if your intended target is on the other side of a door, sofa, or car windshield. Also, from what I've seen, keep in mind this is solely from good ol internet info, once a hollow point passes though a solid object like drywall or a windshield they seem to fail to expand more often than not. With these projectiles, objects don't matter much unless they cause them to tumble or flip backwards. Which could just as easily happen to a hollow point anyways. You have provided so much outstanding content!
Tn, you and Hickok45 stand alone from all other youtube gun channels......A BIG THUMBS-UP' TO YOU BOTH!!
Still can't get over the fact that i'm seeing your videos in the subscription page again. :) Man, you've no idea how much i missed these.
Great video as always.
Thanks
I'm surprised that the 19 got such similar results to the 43... glad to have you back, man, love these videos.
Glad your back
Great test. The picture quality is amazing. I carry these in .45 auto as a back up when I'm hunting. 🤔 I wonder how some barrier testing would turn out.
Lehigh penetrators are a great choice for backup guns for hunting or just backpackers or hikers, for urban areas not so much due to the over penetration, but these Lehigh defense loads are great, in the clear ballistics it's a little hard to tell because clear ballistics doesn't show the full permanent wound cavity very well but it's a great way to test multiple rounds on civilian budget, military arms channel did a test on these with real ballistics gel and the cavitation is insane and actually outperformed federal hst repeatedly
For winter EDC I want ammo that can penetrate cold weather clothing. I added the +P Xtreme Defender to Hornady Critical Duty +P 135 gr FlexLock. Nice review.
So good to have you back!
I'm really glad you are back to doing videos! Thanks for all the work you put into these.
So glad to have you back! also that was performance was quite a surprise!
Great job as always. Thanks
It's great to have you back. I hope someday you will test the Hornady American Gunner 38 Special out of your 438. No one else on UA-cam seems to have tested it and I believe it is a standard pressure load. Thanks again for your efforts.
Very nice video. Love how clear that gel is. That clearly allowed us to see the travel of the bullet. Nice job.
Camera showing bullets in gel block is amazing 👍
it is so nice to hear your reviews again you have been missed very glad you are back
Glad to see you back in the saddle. I really like the way you go about your testing.
Outstanding. Happy to have you back. Keep up the great work.
This is all I carry these days. Performs like a JHP but no threat of clogging and the design creates a nasty wound channel.
Best shit imo on the market today.
Same here, I exclusively carry these. A huge bonus is that I buy these bullets for reloading, it actually makes it affordable enough to practice with it as well, and I can tweak the loading for my personal preference. You can't buy HST's, Gold Dot or any other major self defense bullet by itself, which makes affording them to train with out of my budget.
I say this with all sincerity, you sir will be missed. My hope is that not too far in the future, that you will be in a position to return to making expert videos.I have a question. If you were to choose the top four ammo choices for self defence, in order what would they be? I have seen your videos being used on forums, to discuss ammo..Your work will live on forever...
These need a redo. Lehigh has changed the bullet since this video with more permanent wound cavities as a result. Hopefully tn will do the +p+ also.
Is the +p+ alot different than the +p? I can only seem to find the latter. Think it's still good or better than hst or gold dots?
@@cwatson42785 yeah, with such high demand it looks like Underwood isn't doing the +p+ right now.
+p+ is higher pressure loads than the +p. So greater penetration which, probably isn't good for a self defense round. Better for hunting or shot out of a 9mm carbine. Just stick to +p because +p+ can damage your gun unless you change the recoil springs
@@Jonymankitty @TRON Thanks guys
TN! Back at it again with the best ammo reviews on UA-cam!!
Man im getting more and more impressed with these after taking some coyotes with the 115 gr 10mm version, even Andrew at the chopping block didn't think much of them at first but even his test shows the flutes definitely due something, maybe not 2x a jhp something but I definitely think it leaves wounds equal to light for caliber jhps but they are barrier blind and get VERY good penetration even with the low weight and terrible sectional density, I guess the bullet design and construction is making up for that with it small frontal area which helps penetration, very interesting results and I like the penetration
Any updates?
Yea I've actually used them in 44 mag,357 mag,38 spl,44 spl since on everything from coons,ground hogs,foxes,whitetail, coyote all with the same results great penetraion, good wound cavity. They shoot high but that's to be expected.
Best reviews out there, good platform with consistency as a primary goal! 10/10
Great information thank you for all of the work that you do.
tnoutdoors9, please consider testing Underwood Ammo's SKU #851, .32 ACP +P 55 gr. Xtreme Defender loaded to 1050 fps.
Underwood used a tiny Kel Tec P-32 (short barrel) for testing and indicate it achieved 15.5" of penetration in calibrated ballistic gel, and yet it showed a permanent wound cavity BETTER than any JHP load in .32 ACP they've tested. If their test is repeatable it would be a GAME CHANGER for many people who NEED a tiny gun for a backup, or for civilian carry when minimal, lightweight clothing absolutely prohibits a significantly larger weapon (100+ degrees days at 70%+ humidity in the South can break your will for "dressing around" your firearm). One has to actually hold a Kel Tec P-32 in their hands to appreciate just how diminutive and concealable it really is.
.32 ACP has in recent years been generally considered "too weak" for defensive use. If these rounds perform as advertised it could open up a whole new class of alternate carry possibilities...and they DID perform for you in 9mm! Conventional wisdom says a .32 ACP "won't work;" conventional wisdom is often wrong until a pioneer discovers the pathway to success.
I don't own anything in .32 ACP and most likely never will.
Great test on this Ammo I've tested some 380 ACP from Lehigh Defense and like it , Thank you
Underwood is absolutely fantastic Ammunition. Everything they make is quality
This is my carry ammo! I was impressed enough after MAC's review of it, I pulled the HST's out of my gun and in with these lil'fellers. I really like that they are truly barrier blind and are a solid slug of copper. Should be as reliable as ball ammo!
I did the same expensive little bastards.
Junior 83 I bought 2 boxes and after they became available I bought some of the 90gr. XD bullets to load myself, lot cheaper that way so it's a little cheaper to fire some practice rounds.
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Thank you for all the work put in to these tests!
This testing, the videoing, and the gel blocks were all very well done.
Thanks for the video!
That performance really surprised me. I had a similar performance with the Federal HST 124gr between the S&W Shield and S&W 5906. Thanks for the test!
I'm so glad you're back, buddy!