IndiGraph - This fountain pen can use India ink
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2019
- IndiGraph is a unique fountain pen with a built-in humidifier that keeps the nib damp so that ink does not dry. It can use India ink because of that.
IndiGraph Kickstarter page
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Price on Kickstarter is 65€, which is roughly $75 US. Tempting, but out of my personal price range.
Oops, same here.
So get a cheap Platinum Carbon deskpen (about $15 if I remember correctly) and Platinum Carbon black ink instead. Or some of the other Platinums adjusted to work with the Carbon ink. There is also Pelikan Fount India inkyou can use, and Sailors with nano-particles - works in fountainpens.
Hey Teoh they made a new version of this pen, and it seems they listened to you! They made the little part you said should be bigger, bigger. They’ve also added different color grip parts.
I didn’t know but it seems the company is from where I’m from, which is really cool! :D
That is a very beautiful pen, and super bauhaus design! It reminds me of the Pelikan Graphos, my personal favorite pen, and it also strictly uses India ink
Looks like it uses a #5 Jowo arrow nib and housing, so you could probably find more varied nib sizes looking for those. Should work with other regular-style #5 size nibs as well, as the kickstarter says the EF comes in the "classic" nib shape.
Great review. For years I've wanted a fountain pen that I could use India ink with. Thanks.
I really enjoy your drawings and your videos, thank you for doing these reviews!
This was really helpful. I'm definitely ordering one today! Thanks very much. Your reviews are always so good, and are the first place I look for comprehensive and honest assessments of so many products. 😊
Very helpful video so thank you very much for sharing your videos with us and looking forward to seeing you painting again and great demonstration.
this looks very well designed, amazing
Very thorough review Teoh. Thanks !
Nice piece of engineering... the cap end being opposite would confuse me 🤣 thanks for the demo.
Off Topic: I'm shopping for a flex nib pen and encountered Fountain Pen Revolution, which sells all their (cheap) pens with optional flex and superflex nibs. I ordered a superflex + Pen for $20 US. I mention it on the off-chance you haven't encountered them yet.
Thank you. This looks great to me. I will put it on my wish list!
i love your review videos especially. thank you so much!
Great review Teoh!
That's remarkable! I hope the Kickstarter succeeds!
...it makes me wonder if I can achieve the same effect by sticking a tiny piece of wet sponge into the cap of one of my regular pens though...
Eleine Sun let me know if you ever try it lol i wanna know too
I did try it with a cheap fountain pen. It works as long as I keep the pen in my pocket with the nib down. Also works when the pen is lying horizontally.
Make sure that the sponge doesn't come loose or the nib touch the sponge.
Huh. So if you could only post the cap and the case were less prone to unscrewing when you mean to open the cap, that might be the absolute perfect pen. I love the humidifier concept. Thanks for the review!
I actually don't post my pen caps so that doesn't affect me. Just pointing it out to those who do.
@@teohyc I tend to post my caps so I appreciate the inclusion of that detail. It still looks like a pretty great pen though, overall
I need one of these. Beautiful
Really good review, thank you!
I've also looked for this kind of fountain pens. Thank you.
Noodlers has a an India ink safe pen called the Boston Safety pen. It can be purchased at gouletpens.com and maybe other places that sell fountain pens.
Thanks for that tip!
Those are excellent pens.
I have one. Still gettin' this, though.
@@namazuume
Nothing obscure about the Noodler's.
I own quite a few of their pens and a lot more in their inks.
@@namazuume
Gotcha.....sorry for my misunderstanding.
Wow thanks for the review
The inventor/engineer would probably have to get professional artists to help fund the production, since it's at a rather high price point for the hobby artist, and the pro can at least deduct its cost on their Schedule C tax form
need this in my life 🔥
Nice.
I want that pen, too. 🖋
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Love your style, as I've said before. Question: Do you think there is any advantage (other than the labor of cleaning) to this over say, a Duke 551 or another favorite pen cleaned after use? Or is your opinion it's nice to have some India Ink loaded all the time within easy reach? Thanks, and keep up the good work. I for one appreciate it!
This pen is really for those who use India ink. Nowadays you can also get safer waterproof black inks for fountain pens, eg De Atramentis Archive, Platinum Carbon. So you don't need a special pen to use those inks.
Seems like a good option :)
Hmmm. Looks like the same feeds Opus uses. The only real difference is that it keeps water in the cap? Could be a recipe for mold?
I need this in my life.
Nice pen. Nice price.
*_Thanks Teoh_*
Oooo. I wonder if it'd work with Noodler's Kung te Cheung ink.
after some years are gone now. any bad experience with the pen?
this looks really cool! The price is out of my reach at the moment but i really hope this succeeds. Do you think this could use rotring ink too?
i really like this design too because it could work with regular fountain pen inks and let them stay wet for much longer
If it can use Dr Ph Martin, it definitely can use Rotring
Nice! I definitely want this. Good review as always. Did you try sumi ink?
@@yarinageshonen I did not use Sumi ink. No reason to use sumi ink.
How has this pen held up for you after 6 months?
Great!
Given your experience with the Indigraph, would you it would work with the Kuretake Black/Sumi 60 inks or Deleter Comic Inks?
Also, they now sell a version of the indiegraph cap that you can post.
Can it use Dr ph Martin ink?
Even after being an Indian and a fountain pen enthusiast, I don't find such pens and inks anywhere in India... By the way do you remember my Note 9 suggestion?
what about your note 9 suggestion?
@@francosarmiento9259 when I asked him to do a sketching/note taking review on note 9 so he replied that he wouldn't recommend it for this purpose and he doesn't feature phones. But I think that Note series is one of a kind and worth a try. People make awesome stuff with Note 9.😊
I don't feature phones. And mostl likely Note 9 will perform just like the Tab S3 and S4 with S Pen since they all use S Pen.
@@teohyc Thank you! 😊 I also thought the same😀
@@teohyc I wish I get a chance to meet you in person someday when I come to Singapore😊
I see you usually use fountain pens. They are a bit out of my price range at the moment. Can you recommend any roller ball pens or other such non-fountain pens that come with waterproof inks? I’ve tried some, but even though they claim to hold water proof ink I find they really do not, especially if you Ron water colors over the ink.
You can get the Duke fountain pens on eBay for very affordable price. Recently I reviewed a brand Moonman which is also affordable. Anyway, in the long run , fountain pens are more economical because bottled inks can last you for a year and more. For rollerball, try Uniball Eye, Uniball Vision, Uniball Air
Thank you for the reply. I will look into using eBay. Presently using a ZIG Memory System Millennium 03. It works well on smooth sketch paper if I draw slowly, but occasionally I have skipping issues on 140# NOT watercolor paper. Twice now the ink has run when watercolor was applied (probably painted too quickly). I still enjoy watching your videos because I think I learn something each time I watch.
Would you be able to use this with drawing inks of different colours? And what about acrylic inks?
It still uses regular feed xD
Not sure about coloured drawing inks. But acrylic ink definitely no.
@@teohyc When you are showing the info sheet at 1:29 it shows Schminke's Aero color and Liquitex ink as highly recommended. These are both acrylic inks.
Can you put the Zebra G (6) nib in this pen? I have the Madison with the G nib, but it can only use the Noodlers in (they say), but I find the Noodlers not as dark black as the Platinum Carbon ink (which clogs the feed). This pen is about $80, a bit above my price level. I do ink & watercolor. Any thoughts? Thank you
Get the Osprey fountain pens www.parkablogs.com/content/osprey-milano-zebra-g-nib-fountain-pen-review
@@teohyc That's what I have in the Madison model. I have had it for a while & have had many email & phone conversations with folks there, in fact during a conversation 2 weeks ago they told me about this IndiGraph pen, then I saw the price. Thank you very much for your videos & informative replies here.
can you try new Huawei Matebook E 2019 with pen?please .It's looks great:)
Maybe I will review that, but definitely not anytime soon.
@@teohyc Thank you :)
How do you clean your Fontane pen when the ink dry at point of pen?
If you have problem cleaning dried ink, get Dr Ph Martin’s Bombay Pen Cleaner, or Rotring Cleaning Fluid
Can you show us how to clean a brush pen please?
Just dismantle everything and rinse under the tap. Alternatively for thorough cleaning get fountain pen cleaning fluid from Rotring or Dr Ph Martin's
Thanks!
Very nice! But hey, for $75 I would buy it ONLY if it offered a Flex nib. I do like the innovation though.
On the Fountain Pen Network, the members mentioned this and the creator said he was up for developing a flex nib assembly after the kickstarter.
(I mean, I wish he would have thought of that for a _drawing_ pen _before_ he kicked everything off, but it's better than nothing.)
@@vermis8344 I hear ya! Its one of those things where I ask myself if I should roll the dice and buy one and then sit and hope that he does offer a flex nib option or brush option soon,....or wait until the campaign is over and buy one when and if it becomes available.
Or I guess I can sacrifice the nib section that comes with it and retrofit it with one of my many disposable flexible dip pen nibs like a Nikko or Titanium Zebra G.
I'm no stranger to retrofitting nibs and pen parts but would rather use a no hassle solution and let the creator offer it with their pen.
from the looks of it, it's a regular fountain pen, with water in the cap, using standard jowo nibs.
for the price, it's pretty much average. but why use India ink, when you can just buy normal fountain pen ink? seems pretty gimmicky, consider the fact that it's still pretty much just a regular fountain pen, give it a few months of use with india ink and lets check back then.
"Normal" fountain pen ink is not water or light proof. Maybe not an issue when taking notes, but when you are an artist drawing with the pen it becomes important ;)
that's only a problem if you're creating physical only media. and if you are expecting to make something that will last a long time, there are specifically archival quality fountain pen inks. like Platinum Carbon Black or De Atramentis Archive Ink or Rohrer & Klingner Salix
all of the inks have to be waterproof anyways, or you'd have to put them on after doing the water colors. which would be a hassle...
of course none of this is an issue if you just scan your art, and use it for prints.
@@BloodSprite-tan I know, but I was trying to answer your question on why to buy India ink instad of Fountain pen ink.
I would count Platinum Carbon black and Pelikan Fount India as India inks (those are the two I use, have not tried the others). Platinum even creates quite cheap pen with the feed specifically adjusted to the Carbon ink. And there are so many other options - like technical pens, brush pens, fineliners - which handles drawing ink. So I probably will keep on using all the options I already have.
well it depends on the ink, a lot of the time, you'd want waterproof, but i've seen plenty of either, ink on paper alone, or ink that has been mixed for water to make a grey scale tone.
if you're using india ink specifically, why use fountain pens? is my point, there is either hybrid dip pens which like desiderata pens or just dip pens, sure fountain pens are better for travel, but i feel like if you're doing that, you could just like use a brush pen, or fine liners.
the design of this pen is questionable, i personally would have preferred and eyedropper with Ebonite feed and nib.
at most that's 5 parts.
1. nib 2. feed 3.cap 4. section 5. body
for this pen it's like twice as complicated. it'll be a fun time to clean.
to be clear if you had a tiny piece of felt and stuck it in a fountain pen that has a decent cap, you could use it with india ink, this pen is pretty expensive, but much cheaper pens that can do the same thing.
not that india ink is much better than high quality fountain pen ink.
I want one!
NO
I NEED ONE!
in my country its very hard to find foutain pens ink specially in other color than blue.
Hey Teoh. I bought one of these and it was a total mistake. It leaks terribly and is really not worth the money. I would really recommend NOT buying one of these. I hate to say it, but I think they sacrificed quality for a gimmick. My brand new pen is probably already headed for the trash as it’s already caked with dried India ink! Ouch!!
See if you can ask for an exchange
@@teohyc I've heard from Indiagraph and they are going to send me a replacement. I have to give them good marks for service. Hopefully I can get the pen going. I do love the great contrast you get from the jet black of Indian Ink on white paper, so I'm one person who loves the idea of a pen like this. I have a warning to anyone who reads this, however. Be really careful about spilling Indian Ink. It is really tough to clean even more so than, say, Noodlers. My kitchen table got a regular ink bath when this pen started to leak and it will never be the same.
@@jdub3853 Have you tried a cleaner with ammonia in it? That should dissolve the shellac.
No thanks, get a jinhao x450 and noodlers Boston safety pen ink, and save yourself 60 bucks.
add silicon grease to the cap whichever pen you are using,
the ink will NOT dry out, then ANY pen can use indian ink.
This pen is NO DIFFERENT
Do you mean that the nib is immersed in the grease?
@@limmoblack the thread on the cap, sorry, my bad
@@maximme Thx for quick response:)
Don't use india ink. Simple.
But if you do want to use it - I guess, try this pen.
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