My dad's friend was a workaholic. His 1st wife died from cancer and he regrets it til this day. He got married 2 more times after her and both used him for his money. He lost the only woman who loved him for him and wasted it working.
But if he wasn't making the money he was making then he wouldn't have had the same value to the women and thus wouldn't have gotten the attractive women that he wanted.
It sucks l have been working fourteen hours a day since I got rid of my cancer, and I needed something to do with my time to keep me from depression and it has helped
A lot of people work overtime so they can feel good about themselves and they keep busy so they don’t have to think about their problems. This is why I worked 14 hr days as a massage therapist being a single mom of 4 kids, while being 9 months pregnant. I did 14 hr days of physical work doing massage therapy on my feet with preeclampsia, as a single mom, so I didn’t feel bad about myself and my situation.
where is their father?how many fathers does your children have? Why do you tell your social life in youtube? do you do any other things beside massage ?😂
Why would anyone work 18 hours a day? You don’t live to work, you work to support yourself. Lord knows that any firm that wants me to jeopardise my health to give THEM more money is well misguided. Work 18 hours, when do you sleep? What about your commute? Your family? Friends? What about your odd days of relaxation? 18 hour days, 7 days a week to have only 25 days of annual leave? I think not.
Because as he said, they are maniacally competitive and driven to succeed no matter the cost. As long as they believe that their work will pay off in the end, they are happy to make the sacrifice. I’ve known a few people like this. My one buddy never partied in high school even though we begged him to often. He was obsessed with getting good grades and getting a soccer and academic scholarship to the best school he could. He did, but I never got him to answer if he regretted having no fun in high school. Personally I just know that I could never have done what he did. High school was some of the best years of my life and I needed the friendship that I found to get me through hard times. He was fine though, he had a happy family and he was personally just resolute to make any sacrifice needed to achieve his goal
Idea is you bust your ass for 3 or 4 years to build up a large amount of savings get good training and have great exit options that ideally have a much better wlb
Because you sacrifice time now to have free time in the future like if u work 18 hours a day at a corporate law firm busting ur ass for 10 years u will make fuck loads which u can invest in property that u can rent out and then ur free financially
Both my partner and I are lawyers and she had this realisation after her maternity was made a living hell by her previous Director and her husband (wife was Managing Director and her husband was HR Director) fair to say I make enough money but she can now focus on herself and our family and I must say even after spending all day litigating and being fucked around by clients and opposing counsel, it feels good to go home and be with a happy wife and child. We do have hopes of one say starting our own firm however its a long shot for now
What he’s talking about is very accurate to me. There’s no other industry that’s as brutal as big law is. I would go so far as to call it something of a scam, and in a sense, a lottery. Law schools around the country sell a horrible fiction of prestige and wealth, all the while their professors selling these mythical dreams had flamed out of big law themselves. I look at it as a legal-industrial complex. It’s not necessarily a scam, but the gears are all dependent on each other to keep the process moving. It goes like this: law schools (particularly T14s) have a high sticker price because they’re selling an ostensibly valuable skill set. This drives up competition and demand for these graduates at top law firms. These top graduates are unfortunately saddled with tremendous debt to pay for their degree, thus law firms need to drive up salaries to exorbitant levels to attract students to pay off these degrees. Furthermore, these firms are more often than not in an area where the cost of living is extremely high, so good luck taking much of that big law salary home with you.
As a bl partner, very false. I’ve worked in Texas my entire life, and yet I’m making the same as those in NYC, and of course more because of taxes. Cravath scale is paid in every v50 American office no matter where in the country it is, that’s a fact. Not to mention that it certainly isn’t brutal, the reality is if you put in the work and do what you need to do to produce results, your job is safe, AND you have a great work life balance depending on the firm. I rarely worked on the weekends as an associate and was able to enjoy my hard earned money.
@@rollericarus I’m confused as to which part you find false, because I do not disagree with some of the facts you listed here. As for your circumstances, then I would say you basically won the ultimate lottery. However, the vast majority of JDs will never even *sniff* your circumstances. Even if you do everything right and get into HYSCCN, then it could all still become meaningless. You could very well be in a position where you’re forced out, laid off, or leave of your own accord (I’m doubtful of people that do this, however), and then the chances of you returning to big law… are not good from what I’ve seen. So, Cravath scale is consistent at the V50 firms, but do not think for one second that you are assured that scale throughout your career. You could do every possible thing right, and at the end you can easily wind up at an in house position and never make Cravath scale in your entire career. What I’m trying to establish is that sinking 200k into a degree for a job that could be over in 24-48 months is a garbage, terrible bet. So, people should be very aware of the realities of big law, and that people much more competent than most have flamed out here. That’s definitely a commendable attitude to think that hard work = secure position. However, I would disagree with that worldview. It’s better to work hard and race to competence, I would say. However, if the chances of “success” are as low as they are as “success” is defined in law, then I would immediately ask someone to consider a different career. As for your WLB comments, then I would say that’s firm-specific from what I’ve seen. I’m glad that you got a good firm, however, check out r/biglaw if you want to see the agony of most associates.
@@jackhallander6706 I appreciate hearing your view on this, as its certainly not a straightforward topic to discuss, but from my pov, the reality is that if you are not going to a T14 you are not made out for big law. And if you are then either not able to summer or get pushed out of a firm, then one has to be introspective and ask themselves if they even made the right decision, because as far as I’m concerned, there is no reason for any lawyer to be pushed out if they are fulfilling client needs and are putting in their hours. It’s a commitment, yes, but not as big of a mountain as some make it out to be. The only ones that don’t make it in this business are those that can’t commit. It’s not a skill issue most of the time, purely commitment related. As for your point on the facade of wealth and prestige pushed by top law schools, it’s certainly not a facade. Most students in T14s have what it takes to get their foot into big law, whether it be directly from school, or by working their way up. Law school isn’t even that expensive. Nowadays many of the top undergrad schools are upwards of 70k/year, and that’s 4 years which are not easy to pay off at all. Contrast that with law school where you can easily pay it off over a couple of years on a bl salary. These salaries aren’t inflated to keep up with the financial strain of law school, they are compensation for the millions of dollars associates and partners bring into the firm, and could easily be raised even more without putting financial strain on firms. This is a cutthroat business, I make no qualms about that, but if you go to a top school, get a top education, and are truly confident in your abilities to succeed as a lawyer, you will do fine as long as the work is put in. We have let go of countless associates for failing to deliver, and I know for a fact that they weren’t the least intelligent or least incompetent, they were simply not putting in the hours.
@@rollericarus I appreciate your willingness to admit that regarding the T14. Most people I talk to on this subject won’t admit to that. What is here is really a fundamental disagreement on the impact of hard work. For you, it seems that hard work guarantees your placement, and perhaps even partnership at a large firm. For me, it’s just something that is needed, and won’t guarantee you anything. However, as for your assessment that one needs to be introspective if they made the right decision if they are not able to summer for a firm or become forced out, then I would say once again that this is largely a matter of luck. Commitment is necessary, but does not guarantee your success. Sonya Sotomayor was no-offered from Paul Weiss. That’s anecdotal, but in the absence of any evidence on this I believe it demonstrates that even people with a fantastic work ethic can be forced out or no-offered. When it comes to admissions, people rationalize their chances as a matter of probability. Sure, great grades are necessary, but they will not guarantee your admission to a great university. People understand that it’s also a matter of how many applicants there are, when you applied, what department you applied to, URM status, softs, position in relation to other candidates… However, people are not willing to apply this same calculus to their careers. For example, at Cravath, the incoming associate class in 2020 was reduced by 43% by 2022. Those odds are pretty terrible. Most exited to other big law firms, but like I said before, you could be one of those associates who transitioned to in house and will never make Cravath scale again. In 2005, Harvard sent 338 graduates into big law, and by 2011 47 of these grads became partners. Mind you, this is just the total number of partners. If we were to reduce the number to only equity partners, then the odds would become abysmal. Going directly to some of the V10 firms reveal even worse odds. There, your odds of making partner are similar to your odds of surviving the Battle of Stalingrad as a member of the Sixth Army (I think roughly 3 or 4 percent survived). Most students at T14s do indeed have what it takes to make it *into* big law. However, your chances of remaining there for your entire career are not good, even from a T14. Even then, you could very well end up in a position where you never get big law. Duke sent 60% of its class to big law firms. The rest mostly went into government or clerkships, but you can very easily become the person who does not make it into big law in their entire career, despite coming from a T14. Law school is not as expensive relatively speaking to private undergrad institutions. However, the reality is that the vast majority of people who don’t go to a T14 will not be given the opportunity to pay off an expensive undergrad degree plus three years of law school. And even if you go to HYSCCN, then you are not assured to be making Cravath your entire career. I know many who don’t. Cece Xie is a prominent UA-camr here who went to Harvard and was a sixth year in NYC but still deals with her student loan debt. Law firms are able to raise their salaries to extremely high levels because of their clients. However, they’re also in a bidding war for the top associates from top law schools. These associates have an incentive to pick firms that match Cravath to pay off their debt.
@@rollericarusIs it really true that your job is safe if you do the work? Speaking with associates who just moved in house from V50s I’ve heard stories over and over again about how they got pushed out or told they didn’t have a future at the firm. I find it hard to believe that all of them were simply not meeting billable reqs or produced crappy work product they all seemed pretty competent lateraled to good jobs. “Up or out” seems very real at a lot of places.
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My dad's friend was a workaholic. His 1st wife died from cancer and he regrets it til this day. He got married 2 more times after her and both used him for his money. He lost the only woman who loved him for him and wasted it working.
That's tough.
I hope his life reaches a climax. A good ending.
Your story holds much pain, but also great insight
But if he wasn't making the money he was making then he wouldn't have had the same value to the women and thus wouldn't have gotten the attractive women that he wanted.
can't blame him for the cancer. a lot of healthy people get the disease.
why does he literally sound like saul goodman
Fuck. Cant unhear it now lmao
😂Damn now that you mentioned it
Well...shit!👂🏾🤣
HELL.YES
He really does holy shit
It sucks l have been working fourteen hours a day since I got rid of my cancer, and I needed something to do with my time to keep me from depression and it has helped
Hi how are you know
A lot of people work overtime so they can feel good about themselves and they keep busy so they don’t have to think about their problems. This is why I worked 14 hr days as a massage therapist being a single mom of 4 kids, while being 9 months pregnant. I did 14 hr days of physical work doing massage therapy on my feet with preeclampsia, as a single mom, so I didn’t feel bad about myself and my situation.
where is their father?how many fathers does your children have? Why do you tell your social life in youtube? do you do any other things beside massage ?😂
@@captain6374what is your problem?
Lol. Stop getting pregnant.
Ask ur children if they care
Why would anyone work 18 hours a day? You don’t live to work, you work to support yourself. Lord knows that any firm that wants me to jeopardise my health to give THEM more money is well misguided. Work 18 hours, when do you sleep? What about your commute? Your family? Friends? What about your odd days of relaxation? 18 hour days, 7 days a week to have only 25 days of annual leave? I think not.
Because as he said, they are maniacally competitive and driven to succeed no matter the cost. As long as they believe that their work will pay off in the end, they are happy to make the sacrifice. I’ve known a few people like this. My one buddy never partied in high school even though we begged him to often. He was obsessed with getting good grades and getting a soccer and academic scholarship to the best school he could. He did, but I never got him to answer if he regretted having no fun in high school. Personally I just know that I could never have done what he did. High school was some of the best years of my life and I needed the friendship that I found to get me through hard times. He was fine though, he had a happy family and he was personally just resolute to make any sacrifice needed to achieve his goal
Ever heard of the Porsche Taycan turbo GTS? I’m down to work 20 hours a day with one day off if I can get one
Idea is you bust your ass for 3 or 4 years to build up a large amount of savings get good training and have great exit options that ideally have a much better wlb
Because you sacrifice time now to have free time in the future like if u work 18 hours a day at a corporate law firm busting ur ass for 10 years u will make fuck loads which u can invest in property that u can rent out and then ur free financially
A small minority of women work 18 hours a day too. It’s not a men VS women issue
a small minority of a small minority
Those women always turn out crazy
@@alexsalazar5161 Or they turn out to be Margaret Thatcher
A mouse and an atom are both described as "small"
I've known woman that will put men TO SHAME. Especially these soft pigs coming up
Both my partner and I are lawyers and she had this realisation after her maternity was made a living hell by her previous Director and her husband (wife was Managing Director and her husband was HR Director) fair to say I make enough money but she can now focus on herself and our family and I must say even after spending all day litigating and being fucked around by clients and opposing counsel, it feels good to go home and be with a happy wife and child. We do have hopes of one say starting our own firm however its a long shot for now
Do u have any advice on how to become a lawyer I’m 17 and I’m thinking of studying law in uni and becoming a lawyer one day
That's a shit way to say that the legal industry is in dire needs of some reform globally
Are you involved in the legal industry?
What he’s talking about is very accurate to me. There’s no other industry that’s as brutal as big law is. I would go so far as to call it something of a scam, and in a sense, a lottery.
Law schools around the country sell a horrible fiction of prestige and wealth, all the while their professors selling these mythical dreams had flamed out of big law themselves.
I look at it as a legal-industrial complex. It’s not necessarily a scam, but the gears are all dependent on each other to keep the process moving. It goes like this: law schools (particularly T14s) have a high sticker price because they’re selling an ostensibly valuable skill set. This drives up competition and demand for these graduates at top law firms. These top graduates are unfortunately saddled with tremendous debt to pay for their degree, thus law firms need to drive up salaries to exorbitant levels to attract students to pay off these degrees. Furthermore, these firms are more often than not in an area where the cost of living is extremely high, so good luck taking much of that big law salary home with you.
As a bl partner, very false. I’ve worked in Texas my entire life, and yet I’m making the same as those in NYC, and of course more because of taxes. Cravath scale is paid in every v50 American office no matter where in the country it is, that’s a fact. Not to mention that it certainly isn’t brutal, the reality is if you put in the work and do what you need to do to produce results, your job is safe, AND you have a great work life balance depending on the firm. I rarely worked on the weekends as an associate and was able to enjoy my hard earned money.
@@rollericarus I’m confused as to which part you find false, because I do not disagree with some of the facts you listed here.
As for your circumstances, then I would say you basically won the ultimate lottery. However, the vast majority of JDs will never even *sniff* your circumstances. Even if you do everything right and get into HYSCCN, then it could all still become meaningless. You could very well be in a position where you’re forced out, laid off, or leave of your own accord (I’m doubtful of people that do this, however), and then the chances of you returning to big law… are not good from what I’ve seen. So, Cravath scale is consistent at the V50 firms, but do not think for one second that you are assured that scale throughout your career. You could do every possible thing right, and at the end you can easily wind up at an in house position and never make Cravath scale in your entire career.
What I’m trying to establish is that sinking 200k into a degree for a job that could be over in 24-48 months is a garbage, terrible bet. So, people should be very aware of the realities of big law, and that people much more competent than most have flamed out here.
That’s definitely a commendable attitude to think that hard work = secure position. However, I would disagree with that worldview. It’s better to work hard and race to competence, I would say. However, if the chances of “success” are as low as they are as “success” is defined in law, then I would immediately ask someone to consider a different career.
As for your WLB comments, then I would say that’s firm-specific from what I’ve seen. I’m glad that you got a good firm, however, check out r/biglaw if you want to see the agony of most associates.
@@jackhallander6706 I appreciate hearing your view on this, as its certainly not a straightforward topic to discuss, but from my pov, the reality is that if you are not going to a T14 you are not made out for big law. And if you are then either not able to summer or get pushed out of a firm, then one has to be introspective and ask themselves if they even made the right decision, because as far as I’m concerned, there is no reason for any lawyer to be pushed out if they are fulfilling client needs and are putting in their hours. It’s a commitment, yes, but not as big of a mountain as some make it out to be. The only ones that don’t make it in this business are those that can’t commit. It’s not a skill issue most of the time, purely commitment related.
As for your point on the facade of wealth and prestige pushed by top law schools, it’s certainly not a facade. Most students in T14s have what it takes to get their foot into big law, whether it be directly from school, or by working their way up. Law school isn’t even that expensive. Nowadays many of the top undergrad schools are upwards of 70k/year, and that’s 4 years which are not easy to pay off at all. Contrast that with law school where you can easily pay it off over a couple of years on a bl salary. These salaries aren’t inflated to keep up with the financial strain of law school, they are compensation for the millions of dollars associates and partners bring into the firm, and could easily be raised even more without putting financial strain on firms. This is a cutthroat business, I make no qualms about that, but if you go to a top school, get a top education, and are truly confident in your abilities to succeed as a lawyer, you will do fine as long as the work is put in. We have let go of countless associates for failing to deliver, and I know for a fact that they weren’t the least intelligent or least incompetent, they were simply not putting in the hours.
@@rollericarus I appreciate your willingness to admit that regarding the T14. Most people I talk to on this subject won’t admit to that.
What is here is really a fundamental disagreement on the impact of hard work. For you, it seems that hard work guarantees your placement, and perhaps even partnership at a large firm. For me, it’s just something that is needed, and won’t guarantee you anything.
However, as for your assessment that one needs to be introspective if they made the right decision if they are not able to summer for a firm or become forced out, then I would say once again that this is largely a matter of luck. Commitment is necessary, but does not guarantee your success. Sonya Sotomayor was no-offered from Paul Weiss. That’s anecdotal, but in the absence of any evidence on this I believe it demonstrates that even people with a fantastic work ethic can be forced out or no-offered.
When it comes to admissions, people rationalize their chances as a matter of probability. Sure, great grades are necessary, but they will not guarantee your admission to a great university. People understand that it’s also a matter of how many applicants there are, when you applied, what department you applied to, URM status, softs, position in relation to other candidates… However, people are not willing to apply this same calculus to their careers.
For example, at Cravath, the incoming associate class in 2020 was reduced by 43% by 2022. Those odds are pretty terrible. Most exited to other big law firms, but like I said before, you could be one of those associates who transitioned to in house and will never make Cravath scale again.
In 2005, Harvard sent 338 graduates into big law, and by 2011 47 of these grads became partners. Mind you, this is just the total number of partners. If we were to reduce the number to only equity partners, then the odds would become abysmal. Going directly to some of the V10 firms reveal even worse odds. There, your odds of making partner are similar to your odds of surviving the Battle of Stalingrad as a member of the Sixth Army (I think roughly 3 or 4 percent survived).
Most students at T14s do indeed have what it takes to make it *into* big law. However, your chances of remaining there for your entire career are not good, even from a T14. Even then, you could very well end up in a position where you never get big law. Duke sent 60% of its class to big law firms. The rest mostly went into government or clerkships, but you can very easily become the person who does not make it into big law in their entire career, despite coming from a T14.
Law school is not as expensive relatively speaking to private undergrad institutions. However, the reality is that the vast majority of people who don’t go to a T14 will not be given the opportunity to pay off an expensive undergrad degree plus three years of law school. And even if you go to HYSCCN, then you are not assured to be making Cravath your entire career. I know many who don’t. Cece Xie is a prominent UA-camr here who went to Harvard and was a sixth year in NYC but still deals with her student loan debt.
Law firms are able to raise their salaries to extremely high levels because of their clients. However, they’re also in a bidding war for the top associates from top law schools. These associates have an incentive to pick firms that match Cravath to pay off their debt.
@@rollericarusIs it really true that your job is safe if you do the work? Speaking with associates who just moved in house from V50s I’ve heard stories over and over again about how they got pushed out or told they didn’t have a future at the firm. I find it hard to believe that all of them were simply not meeting billable reqs or produced crappy work product they all seemed pretty competent lateraled to good jobs. “Up or out” seems very real at a lot of places.
18 hours a day? Really sir? Lmfao
basically in biglaw. You are always on call.
@@FM-dm8xj what law firms? Because I know plenty of employees from big law firm….They don't work 18 hours a day every day.
@@Youforreal854 not straight billable hours. just on call. usually biglaw
It happens. Some law firms have beds for employees to sleep in, restaurants, and gyms.
@@abiliojaribu1061 name one firm where employees spend the entire day
I’m not gonna do this hahah, these people chose to and like it then wear it as a badge of honor.
Meghan markle is a real attorney? Or is it just a character for the drama series.
She’s a actress, she never claimed to be a lawyer
Bro I wanna be a lawyer just so I can get money
I'm a new lawyer and pockets are still empty.
@@quotidianrice2059 how?
much easier ways to make money
@@johnconnor2122 a lawyer is one of the highest paying professions and probably the safest choice for most people.
Being a lawyer doesnt pay up until you reach 40 50yo
Lol I did for years
women ☕️