BEST way to use Green Stuff World Rollers for Wargaming Bases!
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- #warhammer #greenstuffworld #40k
Andy back again with a basing tutorial to go along with a previous Custodes video! In my opinion, this is the easiest technique to use @greenstuffworld rollers to make amazing looking bases, quickly and effectively.
What you will need:
Bases as required for models of your choice
Milliput (available from most art/hobby and hardware shops)
Fresh scalpel blades(new blade for every 8 to 10 bases)
Clean water
Green Stuff World roller of your choosing.
In this video I am using the Green Stuff World Flagstone roller.
Primers used:
Chaos Black
Grey Seer
Paints used:
Skeleton Horde (contrast)
Snakebite Leather (contrast)
Wraithbone (base)
Ulthuan Grey (layer)
Abaddon Black (base)
As always, if you have any questions about anything in the video, just leave a comment below and I'll get back to you as soon as possible!
If you use any of my tutorials for your own work, I would love to see them! You can tag me below on my social media too!
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Andy
Green Stuff World also sells a number of circular cookie cutters that allow you to skip the tedium of the edge trim (and the angst over where to dispose of those 2 or 3 containers of 'spent' blades). Just roll a larger hunk of greenstuff/greystuff/milliput/super sculpty/etc... as shown here (or any of the other youtube tutorials alluded to) on some wax paper or tin foil (already laid flat on a cookie tray if it is something that needs oven heat to set). Press your cookie cutters through. Then pull away the excess, let it set. Once set, attach it to the base. If you are using a multipart epoxy you can mash the excess together and roll out some more or if you are using a heat-setting clay like Sculpty, just put the excess back in the box for next time--no/very little waste.
I have the cutters. They just leave a gap between base and clay so you would inhale to fill it in. And that would take more time. I’ve tested it.
Thanks, just came across this, I bought my first roller a year ago, messed up so bad I still have bits of Milliput in the ridges and its buggered but keep it as a reminder, this is a lot of help for anyone using these thank you.
Awesome pal. Glad to hear.
I've used the rolling pin before according to a different tutorial and it ended up being supper messy and put me off. Today I used your way together with silicone rings dedicated for the rolling pins and it was super easy and actually okay instead of just one big mess that fricked up most of my Olfa mat. Thank you so much for this one. Definitely will come back to rolling pins more becasue of this!
Really glad it helped pal.
Try using just cornstarch on the milliput then roll it . No water . The dry technique is sharper and crisper detail . I spoon a small amount onto the surface and spread it around then tap the rest off. Clean th roller with a toothbrush .
Great tip thank you so much.
Nice video Andy, I like that you have such a simple technique for using the roller, I'd love to know what your local hobby shop is that you can get scalpel blades at a hundred at a time? From your accent it may not be too far from me 🤣🤣
Hahahaha art and hobby shop can be good for them sometimes. But mostly Amazon. Glad you liked the video.
im gonna be completely honest dude, at first i didnt really like your channel, but my opinion completely flipped. you strike a perfect middle between a paintjob that looks nice but is also achievable in a reasonable amount of time. also, you dont have a crazy airbrush setup or anything like that, so a lot of people can relate, and i love that you paint all kinds of models from all ranges. much love, i recommended your channel to my friends as well
Thank you so much man. And that’s totally fine. People have different tastes and likes so it’s understandable. My goal is to try help people get over the fear of painting through simple to follow tutorials. I’m glad you see some value in it now. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
No matter what I need I always find a great video of yours! Thanks dude
Very kind thank you pal
Simple and to the point. Great stuff thanks.
thansk you so much.
Very good dude, I've been using 3d print rollers lately makes for a good alternative for those who can print
Yep solid choice.
This is a fantastic tutorial! Made this process much easier for myself.
Glad to hear pal.
I was on the fence about getting one of these rollers as i wasnt sure how good it would look but after watching the vid it looks great! so im definetly going to get a roller and give it a go doing some bases. thanks
Supper happy to hear that pal.
Very helpful. I held off because shipping from ETSY on these rollers looked pretty high but they combine charges on multiple rollers. My $175 order of 15 rollers ran about $27 extra for shipping. I bought two of their roller six packs. Looks like fun.
That’s really cool and I bet you have some awesome designs now.
First time I've watched one of your videos, this is exactly the information I needed thanks alot
Anytime pal.
I like to use paper clay to make these kinds of bases. I'd say it's probably less good than milliput, but pretty much no prep time involved. Just be aware there can be some shrinkage when it dries up.
I’ve never played around with that before. Mite have to give it a go.
I have seen a lot of basing videos all of them I found confusing BUT this video is easy to follow and looks amazing this video is very helpful well done brother
Thanks man.
I would recommend to make it WAY thinner, because Milliput is relatively heavy, you effectively doubled the weight of the mini just with the base
You are 100% correct. I need to. I’m just bad at eyeballing amounts lol
Nice review. I don’t use Milliput because it’s so expensive to use for an army. I use DAS clay, but that requires a few extra steps. I get this is easier, but not practical for me if I need to do a ton of models
A thing of Millie put goes further then you think. I did about 70 bases with one pack. For about €8 here it’s not to bad.
Excellent tutorial
Glad you found it helpful pal.
Great work, I’m saving this video for future reference!
Ace man. Glad you will find it helpful.
Great video dude. A quick question though, I see most roller tutorials on youtube just use greenstuff, could you please tell me why you are using milliput instead of greenstuff?
Green stuff cures and goes hard allot quicker and is allot more expensive. Fine for one or two bases but for armies I reconnect the milliput. Glad you liked the video.
Searching for a complete tutorial found a masterpiece
Aw glad you enjoyed it!
If anyone gets these I really recommend the plain roller and the silicon rings. Makes it way easier to get it flat and even
Good suggestion.
Thank you
Anytime pal.
Agreed completely on the most of the other videos out there. I am currently having a hard time using my roller but try this way on my next batch.
Also my painted and finished models i find come off the base very easily and take some of the died putty with them. Any advice here would be much appreciated!
I just use superglue to attach them to the bases. But if your finding them popping off you could try pinning them through the foot and base. Does this help?
@@MediocreHobbies yeah thanks man. I use superglue too but will try pinning next. Sound!
have you ever tried using a lipped base? so you don’t have to shave off a lot of extra milliput.
I’ve seen them and like them but never used them.
Great video, i just picked up one of those rollers.
If you have any other rollers would you show them off with other armies so we can get a feel of them?
I own about 6 of them. And do plan on showing some more off. Glad you liked the video.
I’ve never used one of these rollers but would like to very soon. I usually glue the models to the base using plastic glue before doing anything else. I am guessing you use super glue rather than plastic glue there. Do you ever find you have issues with model breaking off the base? Cheers.
I like it your channel, by the way 😊
Emm only if i drop them lol. Other then that there fine.
Nice video. Do you glue the miniature to the base as usual or does the model need to be pinned?
just a touch of superglue is all i used and no problems so far. thansk for watching
Very cool. I'm thinking about using these to make some of those square to round base converters.
My plan is to make a frame out of sprue and surround it with base rolled putty.
Just wondering how you'd tackle it and what putty you'd use. They are 105mm ovals, and 130mm and 160mm rounds.
Cheers
Sorry I’m a little confused my what your asking. So the putty I suggest for the rollers is milliput due to price and using allot to make bases. Making square bases to round bases sounds allot harder then just ordering up new correct size bases and just swapping them over. Am I wrong?
@@MediocreHobbies You aren't wrong. The goal is dual system usage.
Ie. Vampire Lord on Dragon in WHFB/Mannfred Von Carstein in AoS etc
@@Engra_ ah I’m with you. Sounds easier to just luke magnetise the foot on the models and swap out the whole base.
Great video! I have a doubt, aren't you using too much putty? I bough the plain roller with the intention of rolling it first to plain the putty and leave a thin layer that I will shape later. But I'm not sure how will work out using the silicon supports, i might need to do it without them
Yep a thinner layer of putty would be better for curing and straight I’d say.
Must try this with milliput, my greenstuff always gets stuck like chewing gum to my roller.
Ye it’s a super easy way of doing it. Hope it helps.
Use cornstarch to solve the sticky problem
nice guide, between miliput and GW greenstuff which one do you think is better to work on?
Green stuff cures harder and is harder to work with over all for this purpose. It’s also a lot more expensive.. glad you liked the video
Would you recommend letting the green stuff harden before panting the bases?
I would indeed. At least two hours.
Can you use this with actual Green Stuff, or is that much more expensive?
It is indeed more expensive. And a tougher material to mould. But it gives a sturdier result
How long does the milliput take to cure?
About an hour for it to be solid.
@@MediocreHobbies and painting it that soon won't rehydrate the milliput?
@@vixxihlialocke5117 nope it shouldn’t.
Would miliput standard work just as well?
Yep it would work just fine.
Sorry to be like this, and not trying to be confrontational, but you are doing it all wrong.
Get some wax paper, roll out your greenstuff/greystuff/milliput/whatever on it to the desired thickness. I do this with a piece of PVC pipe and another piece of wax paper. I actually put fittings on each end of the PVC to act as a thickness gauge so all my sheets are perfectly even as to not trigger my OCD. Once you have it to the desired thickness grab yrou roller, wet it a little (I use a small leftover spritzer bottle from my eyeglass cleaner) then roll out your design. Let it dry as a sheet.
Now you have a perfectly flat even thickness basing sheet that allows you to do a bunch of bases super fast. Once dried you can peel the wax paper off, flip it over, and either glue the bases to it then trim, or trace the bases, cut them out, glue them on, then trim.
I bought 5 greenstuff world rollers, sat here one day at my desk watching some repeat shows and made enough of these sheets to last me a lifetime. Like, no joke, I could never use them all.
I believe your way is good. But a lot slower and more complicated then mine. My channel is all about showing people the easiest approach doing hobby. Accessible for all. And i I got that your not being confrontational don’t be working about that at all.
@@MediocreHobbies I actually think it's significantly faster and easier than your approach.
I can base an entire armies worth of bases in less than 3 minutes now. And all it cost me is one night (maybe 4 hours) where I made over 150 5 inch by 10 inch sheets. All while rewatching a series I had been wanting to rewatch for a while. Obviously I went overboard, but so what? I never have to spend that time again on any army I ever make.
Your way has you getting the putty ready, spreading it over the top of the base, rolling the roller on it, trimming the edge, smoothing it over, Each and every individual base. Your way also doesn't completely nullify the biggest issue people have with these rollers, the roller slipping at the far edge of the base ruining the base edge. My way has completely eliminated that as a possibility.
Plus your way doesn't allow for any shrinkage, which depending on what type of putty people decide to use shrinkage is completely possible.
If you want easy and accessible I honestly think my way wins 10 times out of 10.
@@RuffStuff420 guess we just disagree on this one. And that’s ok.
@@MediocreHobbies Also, I trade a lot of these sheets to guys at the local LGS, which is awesome.
We can agree to disagree I guess, but usually when I do that I am capable of understanding the disagreement. Here I just don't see how it's possible that you really think your way is easier in any way. I used to do it your way, it was a huge PITA and time waster. Maybe you should try my way, maybe you will see the difference when you try it. Either that or you are just one of those guys that "can't be wrong". Which would be quite sad. There is more ways to do everything in this hobby than any one of us know. Just sometimes the ways we don't know actually can turn out to be significantly better than the ways we do. There is a reason GreenStuffWorld now sells cookie cutters the perfect size for base toppers my friend.
Useing a dusting of corn starch is faster cheaper and easier to clean. ^_^
Just can't stand that those GSW rollers all have the little lines across the surface. Ruins the whole look and I just don't understand how they can justify charging that much for what is clearly a terrible manufacturing flaw. I stop using mine because of it.
I never even remotely noticed them on the final product.
@@MediocreHobbies it's all I see now. Whether it's my own molds or YT videos. It's a ream shame.
GSW has some great products. I just don't get why they have to be such twats about everything. They make it very difficult to feel good about buying their products.
Totally understand. If you do some research you can find some alternatives/original products although they usually cost a lot more