I genuinely wish [Redacted] had a better lore, she could’ve been so interesting and a way to move Skarner’s story forward. The idea of a “pop star” that’s actually an environmental activist (or maybe ecoterrorist, we don’t judge here) is RIGHT THERE!
I also like the design from beesauce(?) a lot. The simple yellow moons drawn like something in a kids book, the scarf, the deep blue and grey underneath as well as the rather tame hairstyle, i.e. the ponytail give her an element of innocence and down-to-earthness(i dont know how to convey this properly) i would associate with adolescent climate activists (a look which the poncho-like clothing piece supports). As contrast elements of the piltovan popstar are also there, the pink hair, the earpiece and the neon blue on the inside of the jacket, or maybe its a cape idk. I just really like this design, even if im too dyslexic to portray it coherently
@@steps8140 no I totally get what you’re saying, I also thought it’d be a cool concept if like, she holds concerts as distractions for her friends to like, sabotage factories or something
@@samedwards3186 we could take that even further and link her to ekko and the fireflies(that is if they are even canon) since ekko is all about making Zaun a better and safer place for his friends and family and this Version of redacted seems to fit right in there
@@NickyBoi i mean to me it could work if they just put current singed abilities in a new champ and rework singed to be more like lore the only problem would be the skins and so
the clone could be wearing one of those chemtank armors that appear in arcane so it make sense that it runs so fast, and then the new Singed could play more like a control mage.
I actually have thought about this for a while, why rework some champions in being so different it's like they were removed, like Aathrox, and not just have them as some sort of echo fighter and you say it was the previous host in lore
What's actually funny and adorable about Veigar is that they actually added ears for him in Wild Rift, so not only he is adorable for his size, but also his cute ears, making him even more adorable.
They made him homeless in lore and in game, they took away his family and then made an E girl that mocked him and tortured his people. They are a very peaceful race. He literally doesn't even hate humans because he knows that they have no way to realise the truth of the crystals
Thing is, what to do with him since fiddlesticks exists already, like my god, they have to create someone scarier than fiddlesticks, that champ is a masterclass in design
@@mk-ul5tv I think what you can do is that fiddle stick plays with its victim, but then Nocturn just is straight up murders people in isolation and nobody knows him and people just keep dying mysteriously
Diana: so this is Leona, aspect of the Sun, you must avoid her, she is very dangerous! random lunari guy: uuh, *trembling* and who is this guy, a-another aspect of the Sun?! Diana: oh just a regular solari soilder, dont worry about him the regular solari soilder: 4:00
I'm so grateful for LoR, not just for the fleshing out of the characters or the gameplay, but handling the designs, especially of older champions. I think while for example Veigar and LB could use great improvements to their designs, LoR really does them justice. Shame they haven't gone more out there with the designs of non-humanoid champs like Anivia and Malphite, though I understand where it's coming from. But my favourite has to be Nautilus, he has been treated so well there! (also Asol as an honourable mention, not because of design tweaks, but because they actually made him just as cool as he was always meant to be) yes I play and love LoR, how could you tell
as for veig, he already has an updated model revamp in wr, in which something as simple as his ears showing out of his hat gives a better impression of him as a tryhard evil man
@@breaddoggo5485 Just because he does doesn't change the fact that his design still could use an overhaul. It's better, yes, but it could be even more so.
Nah malphite in lor was definitely improved because they gave us the fact that he is big as a literal mountain, whereas in league he look like slightly big rock man. And malphite as a father figure to chip too made his lore more interesting
@@thesevenmasks3362 I never said he wasn't improved, I absolutely think he is. I stated in my comment that I wish they'd gone more out there in redesigning him, and that's due to how messy his lore is - even his improved look doesn't communicate who he is in the lore even the slightest bit. Thus, either they change his origin and keep the current design or change the design to reflect his identity better. Please read more carefully next time
I mean Viktor canonically *can* take off the mask. In his story he's seen drinking sweetmilk, he seems to still enjoy sweet drinks/foods so that's my bet on one reason why he didn't fully augment his face or head, even if it might sound silly
I always loved singed's lore and I hated the disconnect between his lore and gameplay and arcane gave me the thing I wanted the most... Singed lore at its greatest form. He's my favourite character together with vander in arcane because it surprised me that riot gave a damn about him. And honestly I wish his personality in-game was just like in arcane (same with ekko btw).
I still don't get why Redacted should have been a full punk character, that way her skin would have amde more sense as it would have been a different exploration of hte champ rather then the same thing twice, i also just think making her a punk rocker would have made more sense on every level. Punk is often protest singing, Zaun already has a punk scene, and it would have even let her be part of arcane in a fun way like Imagine dragons characters.
Because she was first conceived as K/DA Seraphine. Wonder why her base design is so similar to that skin, there's your answer. And Piltover was the only place in Runeterra they managed to squeeze her into to make it "make sense", but we've seen no efforts to actually make her an interesting character. Just a naive girl in a setting where even that naiveté, which could have potential, isn't explored! She's just a "perfect girl", telling everyone to hold hands until their problems fade away while children are dropping dead right around the corner. Something as interesting as a punk character, a protest singer, a political force that poses a threat to the higher class is just too far off from the "uwu self insert" that we got. And as much as I dislike her, I don't blame her for being the way she is. I blame her writers, the management and whoever else thought any of this was a good idea.
I am blown away by the success of part one, so definitely do let me know if you fellas want to see a part 3 :D Sorry a bit late on this one, should have been uploaded HOURS ago. But we had some technical difficulties with audio and my email got hacked... so that's fun
If they leaned *HEAVILY* into Singed as an experimental chemist, constantly juicing up his decrepit and broken old man body to be stronger and faster, I think Riot could at least achieve some kind of moderate harmony between lore Singed and gameplay Singed. But then you would just have Mundo.
I would like to nominate Fiddlestick for one of the best designed champs, haven't played him much but lore-wise and his entire aesthetic is just... *chef's kiss*
Not gonna lie, that Bee Sauce reimagining of Redacted looks really sweet! Not only is her design easier on the eyes while still keeping her up-beat singer motif, but the implied update to her character is also really nice, something that I feel could lead to a cute friendship between her and Skarner, instead of what should've led to an immense HATRED Skarner would have for her had Riot cared about Skarner's story.
How to solve the Singed problem: Either make him two different characters ô e for the lore that keeps the name Singed but with a new gameplay and one for the old gameplay but with a new 'Amé and gameplay. Or, and this is the best of the two options, put him in a fucking chemtech propulsed wheelchair like a 70 year old tuning grandpa that poison you with his exhaust gaz and cigarette smoke and you rework his ultimate so he use his wheelchairs nitro to move like Sion under his ult but he moves through units and bounces on walls rather than stopping and this last for 30 seconds.
They could do singed kinda like Gangplank. Like give him a story where an experiment goes wrong and does him so much harm he has to hide and try to heal and upgrade himself and in doing so he emerges almost a new man.
@@JV-km9xk I had a game against a Warwick where I shit you not he jumped from first mid tower to the other. With PTSD potential like that of course he'd want to defend himself
As some peoples suggested: slap Singed inside a chem-tech suit and give him some ability to survive early game... also, Riot should just do a "lore-rework", not a rework of the lore but champs with still functional kits and upgrade them to their current lore or a new one with a visual update, such as Miss Fortune, Shaco, Blitzcrank, Kogmaw etc. like they did with the assassins' rework
Couldn't agree more about Varus. I love the character and his lore got me to try him in League and then I realized that the lore I loved was literally nowhere in Varus. He isn't even a Darkin he's a "Darkin"
Glad to see someone recognizing the issues with Varus. In his old lore, if I remember properly, he was an Ionian hunter who guarded this tentacle thing in a temple. His village got burned and everyone in it, leading to him taking the very dangerous thing he was supposed to guard (in game, that’s his ultimate). Retconning him into a darkin not only makes his voice lines make no sense, it also makes no sense for him to have the chain of corruption - where did a damn Darkin get it from? I don’t get it, they really made him a whole ass music video and updated his splash art to modernize him a little but then did nothing else for him, he could definitely use an ASU.
Thanks so much for mention Varus as he is one of my favorite champions and some of the only good official MLM representation in league and I really want him to get an art and sustainability update.
Lissandra: I can hear so well I heard the voices of the watchers and was influenced by them Seraphine: I can hear so well I hear voices The lore community: Imma pretend i didn't read that part
I agree with your take on neeko, but in her case the solution is SO EASY TO MAKE!!! She's a shapeshifter, she can look however she wants, a super short lore of her, saying that is her tribe everbody is full camileon but is cultural or something to shape into something that you like to better represent your personality and practice their hability, and BOOM! You're done.
If [Redacted] didn't fly everywhere on a hoverboard, I might have given her a second chance but that thing just stands out too much from anything Runtarrain. It looks rediculous and I find it very hard to believe that something like her entire concept would exist naturally in this world.
I swear, every time I get her token I just sell it for BE and buy the worst fucking champ I can think of. I dream one day of unlocking all other characters, including Ivern, and leave that obrobrious e-girl to rot in the shop forever.
Yea, imagine something that ridiculus existing in Runte- 1. Literal Hoverboars made in Piltover 2. World Runes able to destroy miles and miles 3. Crowns that can jail a god-like being 4. Time Machines made from scrap 5. Big mechs with ability to float made of scrap 6. Entirety of Piltover 7. Heimerdinger's and Zigg's inventions in Hextech Mayhem 8. SONA'S ETWAHL Bottom Line: No, you wouldn't. You would have hated her just as much just because she's a generic singer and because you already had your brain infuenced by the community and youtubers hating on her, most of the time for invalid reasons. Could she have been done better? Yea, of course she could. But the same can be said about literaly every champion in league if you go into them looking for flaws
@@mimic3872 One things first, I posted this comment before arcane and mayhem came out and I have not watched either one so I have no idea what is and isn't part of the city of Piltover. I'm not sure when you mean when you say "bottom line: no you wouldn't." Do you mean that if I accept those other lore facts, I must accept her inclusion to Runeterra? I have to say no to that, from what I have read about the lore of the world, I do not believe that her character could appear in this setting organically, she feels like she was added only because they wanted to sell popstar skins. Also, my dislike for this character isn't influenced by others, I have my own personal reasons to despise this character, the board is merely one of them.
@@johnjackson5542 "I posted this comment before arcane and mayhem came out (...)" - You posted it a month ago, while both Arcane and Hextech was out since November 2021, so that's just a straight up lie. "I have not watched either one so I have no idea what is and isn't part of the city of Piltover." - Fair, except for the fact that I only mentioned Hextech Mayhem's inventions, which were a big part of the trailers which I find to belive you haven't seen at all. " I'm not sure when you mean when you say (...)" - It was concering your "I might have given her a second chance but that thing just stands out too much from anything Runtarrain". I pointed out all the things that exists canonicly in Runeterra, with the exception of world runes, all of the things I listed were crafted. I was calling you out on the fact that there exists so many things similar to Seraphine's board or at least things that dispute your line about it standing out, since no the fuck it doesn't when you look at all the stuff that exist. "Do you mean that if I accept those other lore facts, I must accept her inclusion to Runeterra?" - No, but I do want to ask you if you accept all the other things in Runeterra if you don't accept Seraphine's board. "I do not believe that her character could appear in this setting organically" - Oh, so like Zed, Annie, Fiddlesticks, Zac, or any of the Void champions? Like it or not, many of the champions when looked at in the void do not fit the world of Runeterra. They have a lore that put them in it, but when looked at them objectivly, you wouldn't think of finding any of those in Runeterra either. "she feels like she was added only because they wanted to sell popstar skins." - Most of the champions are made for the purpose of selling a skin, Seraphine only had her ultimate skin out immediatly because that's the thing that has been teased trough her tweets the entire time. Or would you rather have her fade into obscurity, then after a year or two Riot to release "More" and then the skin, after the twitter account stopped posting, after the hype for new character subsided and when people start to wonder where is K/DA Seprahine when she was teased so much? Because that would be simply a bad financial decision "Also, my dislike for this character isn't influenced by others" - Oh really? I find it hard to belive, but ok. "I have my own personal reasons to despise this character, the board is merely one of them." - This one I'll break into two points based on your original comment: a) "If [Redacted] didn't fly everywhere on a hoverboard, I might have given her a second chance but that thing just stands out too much from anything Runtarrain." - you pointed it out as the thing that stands out too much so it's fair to belive that it's the thing that annoys you a lot about her. b) "It looks rediculous and I find it very hard to believe that something like her entire concept would exist naturally in this world." - Fair, I find a concept of a man being cursed to never die in a fight to be a bit ridiculus... oh shoot, sorry, wrong champion. I mean, I find a concept of a demon trapped in a weapon but also being a weapon dumb... DAMN IT! let me try again... I find a concept of a guy being able to survive inside the cursed isles for all this time, the place who has been known to kill anyone who steps into it, preety ridiculus.... damn... I can't seem to get it right. Almost as if there are so many concepts in runeterra that sound ridiculus when taken at face value, that I keep messing it up... So, in conclusion, my final words are: Don't accept Seraphine because other out of place things exist in Runeterra.... Hate every one of those things equally >:D
I really love Nautilus, but man do I hate to play him now. He's still my most played champion but he's now only viable as a support it feels awful. Especially when you considering that there is now an actual support from Bilgewater, who has revenge as their motif, is also undead, who also was betrayed by their captain, became a vengeful spirit of the ocean, and who both drag people in. Actually I'm not sure how many people know this but when Pyke was released Nautilus' lore basically got deleted and replaced with a vague "Many tell stories of Nautilus but no one knows for sure who or what it is" kind of lore until he got it rewritten a few months later. Nautilus really should've just been reworked when Pyke came out because now there are two supports with basically the same lore, from the same place except one was actually designed for the support role. In kind of a double-wammy kind of deal I feel like Nautilus should be more a of tanky/disruptor style of AP Juggernaut, playing sort of like Mordekaiser but with more tankiness and a bit less damage, while also changing Mordekaiser back to a more tanky/battlemage style of champion since he kind of doesn't work a lot of the time and when he does he's just a stat stick, Plus also because Mordekaiser never really was much of a Juggernaut until the 2019 rework where Riot decided he was solely gonna be a Juggernaut.
Just make singed be the cripple old guy he is in the lore but mounted on his mutant lizard/axolotl thingie from arcane to do the flipping and running, and Singed injecting the thing with shimmer for the R.
I have always had this idea for how Singed is going to turn out: They are going to rework Singed and preserve him as a tank with the high speed and similar identity. Singed's stories and lore are about Singed experimenting about putting another person's mind into a stronger body. I think when Singed gets reworked eventually, they will make it so Singed succeeded, transfusing his genius mind into a larger, bulkier, faster body. This way his lore as a genius scientist and his gameplay as a high-speed tank can both be preserved. We're probably a long way's away from this becoming a reality, and it IS just a theory, but this is how I think Singed is building up to. current singed still garbo get him outta that WoW gear bruh
I feel like a decent amount of champions don't even need a full visual update and some don't even need an ASU. Theres more than a handful of champions who more than anything just need new voice lines. The number one example I always give is Maokai. Maokai is a rare example of lore changes that don't retconn but instead progress the characters lore. Originally Maokai was just a tree from Twisted Treeline who came to life and was just depressed because he liked it better when he didn't know he was alive and was just a tree. This was reflected in his voice line "I once had peace..." showing he was just sad and wanted to go back to being nothing more than a tree. But now his lore has been updated, where he was just basically a druidic gardener bringing empty islands life with lush blooming forests, until the Ruination took that away from him. And instead of just wanting to go back to his own peaceful tree life, he fights back the undead that corrupted his home and brought him to life in the first place. He's got a fire in his eyes, a passion, something to fight for and protect. And this is reflected in his modern voice lines with (my personal favorite voice line in the game) him saying "I once had peace, it is better to have *purpose!"* (Honestly people talk about how Yorick got done dirty in the Ruination event but Maokai has a very similar purpose of fighting back against Viego's scourge of undead, and I'm surprised nobody brought him up along with Yorick) Something as simple as updating voice lines to match the modern lore of a champion can do wonders for their in game representation. Characters like Lee Sin, Ashe, and especially Maokai have outdated models and older kits, but their aesthetic still holds strong because at least the things they're saying in game are no longer tied to those outdated models, and fit their compelling modern lore. Varus more than anything needs updated voice lines. I completely understand and agree that his model is outdated, he came out like a decade ago. But seeing how Riot tends to prioritize skins and new champions above all else, something as simple as new voice lines could definitely make Varus stand out far more than he currently does.
Sad that I didn’t see Zilean in this list! He has such a cool concept behind him but he looks like a damn hippie attached to an old alarm clock. He is the most in need of a VGU by far
I was really expecting orianna to be on the list, imo she could have a much cooler design and lore while still keeping the same game play that so many people enjoy.
What about Jax? A centuries old mutated warrior that has mastered all weapons known to man and is assembling a poweful army to fight the void = purple guy with lamp autoattacks you and say funny line
I think an interesting route they could go with singed is to give him a mount, one of his monstrous creations. Maybe something like that big tube lizard from arcane. Then he can still run around and spew poison but his mad experimenting monster side also still exists.
They should do an ao kuang with singed: In smite (the Moba) there was this character Ao Kuang who was a giant dragon. The thing is that it was supposed to be a Chinese god, but felt super memey and stupid to look at in dragon form, but had a decent kit of abilities. So what hi rez (the creators of the game) did was create a new dragon looking Quetzalcoatl boi to have og Ao Kuang s kit, and then Design a completely new katana wielder Dragon god to be the new reworked Ao Kuang. I loved that.
I honestly think REDACTED was the #1 missed potential. She could have been one of the most badass female powerhouses while also being a young and cute bubblegum themed girl. That's such a break of stereotypes society has made for us. As someone who's girly I'm disgusted with how they fked up litterally everything about this champion.
the only way i can see singe get reworked visually and make sense lore wise is that if he were to decide to finally use his mutagens on himself and turn himself into a tanky monster that emit toxic gas. his ult could even be him taking shimmer or something, but the problem is that this makes him way to simmilar to new mundo
It be fitting for Singed to have a Chemtank Armor when he is in combat. An Armor that release toxic shimmer and spread it... Singed desperately needed a VGU...
Genuine question about Singed. Would it be possible to “split” him into two champions? Lore Singed gets added to the game and ingame Singed gets maybe a name change and its a different hero now? Like i honestly think this might be the best of solutions to get the best of both versions idk
Varus as a corrupted human being already has the best kickstart in his original lore, bur saddly he is more a generic demon now that wants to kill all in his way, than the anti-hero he was, searching for those responsible of the Noxian invasion of Ionia and the killing of his wife and son, while fights the corruption in his body... That's a downgrade that even leave Val and Kai as an irrelevant element in the actual lore, because in the end this is a killing game, we go to the rift to shoot and kill with Varus, Val and Kai may talk but they can't do a shit to stop him or us for doing so.
I think both versions of singed could be united if in arcane they showed him taking shimmer and getting really agile and fast, and in game they could make him change appearance when he starts zoomin to represent the shimmer in his body something like that
i think a good singed can be done, but it'd involve essentially deleting current singed, as his race car mach 5 mustard gas trail play style doesn't match the cold calculating chemist we've seen. he gassed a war from a distance because it would end it faster, he didn't go running to the front line and tank 37 arrows to sonic his way around it.
I think the point about viktor is a good one. With the release of arcane and it showing Viktor before he became who he is right more, I think it would be really great if we saw a refinement or rework of his models to reflect on what we saw in arcane, maybe with season 2 where we will probably see in more depth about the journey he took to turn into the machine herald.
Pretty sure the reason why varus looks the way he is (purple instead of red) is cause he uses hemomancy (blood magic) not the same way the other darkin uses it (healing themselves) but instead he blights enemies blood (his W passive blight) which would make sense according to the theory that the 5 darkin are based on the four horsemen of the apocalypse with varus and his sister being pestilence and conquest.
I really like Varus’ design in-game, but I wouldn’t be opposed to them updating his design and voice-lines if they kept his gameplay exactly the same. He’s a very fun character to play imo.
I have a solution for Singe that can keep the lore and gameplay version of him intact : The idea is to have Singe on top of a monster or sitting in a robot like dr.robotnik. That way we can have the model of a lore fitting Singe and keep his gameplay. He could throw his bottles while his monster/robot would dispense the toxic gas and charge at foes to knock them behind him. What do you think about that?
I think the obvious thing to do with Singed is completely redo his kit, then make a new champion in the next update that just has his old kit and is maybe related to him in some way (Someone who works for him? Failed cloning experiment? Something like that)
Viktors design could be that in game he gets more and more turned into a robot due to the disease overtaking him more and more so he just needs to keep adding more robot parts onto him It would make more sense that he is obsessed with changing himself now
Maybe what they can do with singed is rework him into a AP mage who combines chemicals into special potions with different effects. Like his Q, W, E are the ingredients abilities and then his R combines them into a new ability based on the ingredients used.
idk if someone already commented this but the "eye thing" you said that was on malzahars head. thats actually his hollow head. its just a hole in his hood that you can see his hollow skull malformed by void magic
I think it would work, if they'd split Singed. Like, give us a new champion which follows gameplay- and designwise the crazy, old scientist Singed and rework the old Singed into some other, new character, which speeds around with a poison trail and flings people. Don't know how you would change the name problem, cause that would be hella confusing at first and because his identity is so iconic, but that would be Riot's concern lol. You get the idea.
Basically the only way to rework Singe is either rework him on the level of the Aatrox rework and completly alienate everyone who plays him. Or ass fuck the lore because he's connected to so many other characters
The best that riot has put out is fully embracing the concept of a character but the thing is they rarely do that lmao, they come up with something and then swtich it up to be compatable for the wider audience.
You know what would’ve been cool? If they spun nautilus to be from piltover instead of bilgwater. The tilth is neat but a faction interaction between piltover, zaun, and the shadow isle would’ve been interesting to explore. A man from piltover goes on a diving expedition, equipped with the latest I. Hextech diving equipment, his superiors take a greedy deal from some Chem baron and he goes under during the harrowing. His hextech keeps him alive, but only just- as the mist below the waves consumes him. The piltover bosses deny they were ever there and they cut him off- but nautilus remembers, and he’s on a mission to make the greedy high ups pay for literal burial at sea. His diving suit could be made more corrupted, with some semblance of fancy fancy piltover aesthetics, broken tanks of oxygen, the algae growing in and out of his cracked face plate, and an ever thumping wet trudge as he drags his anchor across the floor, every swing laboured but full of anger, and corrupted hextech that pulses out black mist. Instead of his random torpedo thing, his ult could pull under instead of knock up, a speeding tendril of mist that literally pulls you to the depths. A ghostly titan that creaks and buckles like a derelict ship, and Erie haunting ghostly voices- from what sounds like a broken communicator. How fucking sick would that be
I think that they should change singed entirely and release a new champ with the same function, because a character that leaves a trail of poison, throw sticky thing to the group, lift you 3 feet into the air and boost himself is not a scientist but a monster, perhaps the guy we saw in arcane or another zaunite creature could fit the part but there's no way that the scientist make the part of the Monster unless you have some sort of Jekyll and Hyde scenario
Singed could be updated as an in lore explaination like with Pantheon or Gangplank. Where he is found by the people of zaun for his awful experiments and people start coming after his ass because of the horrible things hes done. Singed turns to viktor in his hour of need as Singed has spent too much time in Zaun that hes lost favor with Piltover, and Viktor removes his arms and legs and replaces them with prosthetics due to singed's old age making him frail. With viktors help they construct a small mechanized suit which singed can wear whenever he is in danger, with the in game explaination for his Q being a method of slowing or killing his pursuers. Maybe Viktor didn't approve of it directly or maybe he doesn't care. Details could be worked out later, but you could still create a reason for why singed plays like he does. Mans literally wants to keep being an evil mad scientist in Zaun but his moral failures have caught up to him and he now spends his life running from vigilantes and the law.
One thing I think they could do with Singed is take his kit and give it to a new champion that would fit it and may be tweak some stuff and changed Singed's gameplay to fit more it to his lore which honestly I wouldn't know how considering that it's really hard
Nicky! Awesome vid as always. Would you consider doing some sort of deep-dive for LoL history and lore? Almost like an ice-berg thing (if they’re still in trend) you could make it sooo interesting. Anyhow your YT channel will blow up
Maybe since Singed is a mad scientist he could have done experiments on himself. That can explain the speed gameplay with horrific mutations that explain his lore side
Viktor's faceplate actually is a mask, I'm pretty sure. It's mentioned that he drinks sweetmilk in his short story, and I don't know how he could do that without a mouth. Probably functions like a welding mask / gas mask hybrid which would obviously be very useful to him.
I love Shen as a ordinary ninja clad with armor, but his kit and his lore is so odd to me. Riot going for a different approach as a ninja whose father is a grandmaster honestly could've been better when he was being reworked.
(4:00) There are a lot of people in Legends of Runeterra that would make great champions. I would love to see Cithria become a champion. It would be cool to have her ride around the battlefield on a Silverwing Raptor.
I think that Varus should have four arms and have the one set of arms more situated on his back. He could have arrows imbedded in his back that he pulls out with the extra arms and nocks into his bow while still being able to hold the bow at the ready with his main set of arms. It would make him look more like a fusion of two people and also the arrows in his back wouls go with his betrayal theme and weapon fused with person theme.
Calling it now. There's going to be a scene where he's being chased so he lets out a stream of farts and locks the door behind him and they die horribly while he cackles It'll be just like in game
The only way I could see lore singed be in game and not jeopardize in game singed is if they made him a shapeshifter . One version being him running around, poison trail behind him and flipping people like we're used to The other one being a mad scientist throwing concotions at your face while buffing or healing himself and his allies with them. Maybe they could balance it by making him able to change only in fountain (as if he gear up for race car singed and equips potions for alchemist singed) or make him able to swap to which style on the spot (like nida, jayce, elise,etc...) because singed has more identity in his spells than ult.
What is a shame is that I'm a [redacted] main because I love her kit and playstyle the most, but her appearance, lore, and backstory is just so terrible, not to mention the worse marketing campaign of all time led up to her release.
Chemtech powered wheelchair Singed: old man who goes fast, can keep the lore, can keep most of his gameplay features, similar to urgot, but wheelchair instead of crab legs (like that one yasuo mod that puts him in a wheelchair)
Making Neeko "more chameleon" to represent her lore as closer to the Vastayashai'rei undermines the lore of the Vastaya, because you'd be implying that other more animalistic Vastaya like Rengar, Nami and Wu Kong are also closer to the Vastayashai'rei. I'm glad happy to see Leona on this list, but you could have sold her much more, not only does she look even less Solari than her followers, but Pantheon, another champion and former Solari, has more modern solari elements in his design than Leona.
Imo they should put singed in a turbo chemtank in game then he can somewhat keep his gameplay but still have a reason for him to receive a asu/vgu, The turbo chemtank would give him a reason to be fast, and you can just say "well he's a scientist 🧚" for his poison trails or even make it so his chemtank is broken and the chemicals are leaking, same with the flip, we know turbo chemtank gives people enhanced strength so it'd be pretty easy to justify him being inside one, while keeping in lore singed out of one Also having a ""mech suit"" character would be sick af
I just want to say the dagger in Malzahar's splashart is not a mislead. Its actually in his lore. Before all of these "void stuff" malzahar was a huge visioner. He was able to see the future. And he was earning money from other magical tricks. And one time during one of his trick sth went wrong and he killed someone with this dagger. I dont remember anymore if it was his assistant or someone from audience. But after this incident Malzahar said that future cant be seen. Its unpredictable. He decided not to use his power anymore and he always keeps this dagger next to him to remember. Ive been curious why he has dagger on every single splashart of his skins but never uses it.
Couldn’t u just make singed have like small noticeable but not glaring tubes going into his legs from the canister in his back to make his gameplay make more sense with lore? Personally I think his dumb world of Warcraft shield is a far more of a glaring issue to fix than his abilities. The main reason I think this is because is remembered this one scene from arcane, we see victor, a cripple who needed a walking stick to get anywhere, RUNNING 🏃♂️ across some doc in piltover after injecting himself with a vile he got from SINGED. It might just be a wild educated guess but I definitely feel there’s potential there for THAT scene to set up for a future singed rework or asu. (Ignoring all the cannon issues with arcane and league)
I think the solution (kinda) to the Singed problem is to take the champion Singed, and rename him. Make him some big, chem-fueled Zaunite knucklehead, I dunno. And then take Singed, the name, and put that on a new champion. Preferably a gross enchanter-style support with a bag full of chemical nightmares. It preserves gameplay Singed, but under a different name, and gives us a more accurate representation of lore Singed. this is obviously a big undertaking and its never gonna happen, but still,
Ideas (completely subjective) to 'improve' each champ on this list, *insert TB Skyen talking about better design* 10 - Malzahar - Just make him more corrupted, maybe remove an arm, run the tyranid route where he physically creates his lil voidlings 9 - Alistar - Give some armour, some battle damage, hell considering (iirc) he was a slave-gladiator, maybe brand the insignia of Noxus onto him 8 - Leona - COVER them in plate armour, with a bit of silver to represent Diana, maybe even add some sun-related devices like a sundial or smthn, use some Aurelion Sol imagery considering HE MADE THE THING 7 - Xerath - Everything Nicky already said 6 - Viktor - Just make a deal with Games Workshop for the rights to the mechanicus 5 - 4 - Vaarus - Change colour to reed, add second a in name, if still want to stay without a shirt, then follow Aatrox and make it all horrible and blood-magic warped 3 - Lillia - Nicky's redesign solves most of this 2 - Neeko - Everything Nicky said, maybe grab some trinkets from everywhere she visited and put them in a bag she carries 1 - Singed - As Nicky said, really difficult to do, but considering Singed's thing is trying to live forever // making his body stronger, give him some augments (Warwick-style not Viktor-style), use Chemtech, maybe even grab anything from Arcane to give to him Again, just my opinion
I genuinely wish [Redacted] had a better lore, she could’ve been so interesting and a way to move Skarner’s story forward. The idea of a “pop star” that’s actually an environmental activist (or maybe ecoterrorist, we don’t judge here) is RIGHT THERE!
I thought he was saying renekton the whole time and was very confused
I also like the design from beesauce(?) a lot. The simple yellow moons drawn like something in a kids book, the scarf, the deep blue and grey underneath as well as the rather tame hairstyle, i.e. the ponytail give her an element of innocence and down-to-earthness(i dont know how to convey this properly) i would associate with adolescent climate activists (a look which the poncho-like clothing piece supports). As contrast elements of the piltovan popstar are also there, the pink hair, the earpiece and the neon blue on the inside of the jacket, or maybe its a cape idk. I just really like this design, even if im too dyslexic to portray it coherently
@@steps8140 no I totally get what you’re saying, I also thought it’d be a cool concept if like, she holds concerts as distractions for her friends to like, sabotage factories or something
The chinese shareholders would never allow it
@@samedwards3186 we could take that even further and link her to ekko and the fireflies(that is if they are even canon) since ekko is all about making Zaun a better and safer place for his friends and family and this Version of redacted seems to fit right in there
I think the best way to keep both versions of Singed is to release Lore Singed as a new Champ and make current Singed his failed cloning experiment.
unironically funny idea
@@NickyBoi i mean to me it could work if they just put current singed abilities in a new champ and rework singed to be more like lore the only problem would be the skins and so
the clone could be wearing one of those chemtank armors that appear in arcane so it make sense that it runs so fast, and then the new Singed could play more like a control mage.
I actually have thought about this for a while, why rework some champions in being so different it's like they were removed, like Aathrox, and not just have them as some sort of echo fighter and you say it was the previous host in lore
Ah yes. His alter ego, Degnis.
What's actually funny and adorable about Veigar is that they actually added ears for him in Wild Rift, so not only he is adorable for his size, but also his cute ears, making him even more adorable.
lil black cat :3
@@kimno2776 he can also kill you, its a cat confirmed
@@julianpradarodriguez7336 black cat walking pass you means badluck and I'm talking about veigar gank
@@endynation4968 Veigar Jungle?!?! 😳
(tried that once.. shit was ass)
Riot really did Skarner so dirty that he looks like an enemy from a World of Warcraft leveling zone.
They made him homeless in lore and in game, they took away his family and then made an E girl that mocked him and tortured his people. They are a very peaceful race. He literally doesn't even hate humans because he knows that they have no way to realise the truth of the crystals
In my opinion, Nocturne is like... oh my god the things they could do with the concept of a living nightmare.
ua-cam.com/video/y6dV3fhgjMU/v-deo.html this...might please you
@@Shabowdiadlo yeah I saw this a while ago and it’s amazing aha
@@shivenzo1457 riot needs to hire this guy this....is beautiful
Thing is, what to do with him since fiddlesticks exists already, like my god, they have to create someone scarier than fiddlesticks, that champ is a masterclass in design
@@mk-ul5tv I think what you can do is that fiddle stick plays with its victim, but then Nocturn just is straight up murders people in isolation and nobody knows him and people just keep dying mysteriously
Diana: so this is Leona, aspect of the Sun, you must avoid her, she is very dangerous!
random lunari guy: uuh, *trembling* and who is this guy, a-another aspect of the Sun?!
Diana: oh just a regular solari soilder, dont worry about him
the regular solari soilder: 4:00
broken 1 mana cost 3/3 (for 1 turn) >:(
Rahvun to be looking like Pantheon tho.
I'm so grateful for LoR, not just for the fleshing out of the characters or the gameplay, but handling the designs, especially of older champions. I think while for example Veigar and LB could use great improvements to their designs, LoR really does them justice. Shame they haven't gone more out there with the designs of non-humanoid champs like Anivia and Malphite, though I understand where it's coming from. But my favourite has to be Nautilus, he has been treated so well there! (also Asol as an honourable mention, not because of design tweaks, but because they actually made him just as cool as he was always meant to be)
yes I play and love LoR, how could you tell
as for veig, he already has an updated model revamp in wr, in which something as simple as his ears showing out of his hat gives a better impression of him as a tryhard evil man
@@breaddoggo5485 Just because he does doesn't change the fact that his design still could use an overhaul. It's better, yes, but it could be even more so.
Nah malphite in lor was definitely improved because they gave us the fact that he is big as a literal mountain, whereas in league he look like slightly big rock man. And malphite as a father figure to chip too made his lore more interesting
@@thesevenmasks3362 I never said he wasn't improved, I absolutely think he is. I stated in my comment that I wish they'd gone more out there in redesigning him, and that's due to how messy his lore is - even his improved look doesn't communicate who he is in the lore even the slightest bit. Thus, either they change his origin and keep the current design or change the design to reflect his identity better. Please read more carefully next time
European Taliyah was the bomb.
All I want is for Varus to have an interaction with Rhaast where Rhaast takes the piss out of him not having 2 A's in his name like Aatrox's line
Varus ASU is just gonna change his name to Vaarus
THERE WAS A MEMO!!!
I mean Viktor canonically *can* take off the mask. In his story he's seen drinking sweetmilk, he seems to still enjoy sweet drinks/foods so that's my bet on one reason why he didn't fully augment his face or head, even if it might sound silly
not silly, hes cute
I always loved singed's lore and I hated the disconnect between his lore and gameplay and arcane gave me the thing I wanted the most... Singed lore at its greatest form. He's my favourite character together with vander in arcane because it surprised me that riot gave a damn about him. And honestly I wish his personality in-game was just like in arcane (same with ekko btw).
couldnt agree more
Singed and ekko personalities are the original ones XD, arcane is a prequel, ekko has changed a lot since the day he fragmented the time
I still don't get why Redacted should have been a full punk character, that way her skin would have amde more sense as it would have been a different exploration of hte champ rather then the same thing twice, i also just think making her a punk rocker would have made more sense on every level. Punk is often protest singing, Zaun already has a punk scene, and it would have even let her be part of arcane in a fun way like Imagine dragons characters.
Because she was first conceived as K/DA Seraphine. Wonder why her base design is so similar to that skin, there's your answer. And Piltover was the only place in Runeterra they managed to squeeze her into to make it "make sense", but we've seen no efforts to actually make her an interesting character. Just a naive girl in a setting where even that naiveté, which could have potential, isn't explored! She's just a "perfect girl", telling everyone to hold hands until their problems fade away while children are dropping dead right around the corner.
Something as interesting as a punk character, a protest singer, a political force that poses a threat to the higher class is just too far off from the "uwu self insert" that we got. And as much as I dislike her, I don't blame her for being the way she is. I blame her writers, the management and whoever else thought any of this was a good idea.
I'm glad they didn't because then I'd be at risk for simping her.
Its better for everyone that she is more obviously bad.
Because she was made to look like Belle Delphine, and she's not ushering any good to the world.
I am blown away by the success of part one, so definitely do let me know if you fellas want to see a part 3 :D
Sorry a bit late on this one, should have been uploaded HOURS ago. But we had some technical difficulties with audio and my email got hacked... so that's fun
Dont need to see the vid to know i want a part 3
yes, I love to see riot get dawged, and also moderately appreciated
The Number best design Is gonna be fiddlesticks cause i know you too well
nicky tell me the ending song at the end TELL ME WHAT IT IS I NEED IT
If they leaned *HEAVILY* into Singed as an experimental chemist, constantly juicing up his decrepit and broken old man body to be stronger and faster, I think Riot could at least achieve some kind of moderate harmony between lore Singed and gameplay Singed. But then you would just have Mundo.
I would like to nominate Fiddlestick for one of the best designed champs, haven't played him much but lore-wise and his entire aesthetic is just... *chef's kiss*
Tru
Kindred for me, everything about it, perfecto
Jhin is also one of those champs where everything goes well
Jhin
Fiddle
Kindred
All are a must need for a best designed top 10
@@orein1880 Sadly Riot forgot about Kindred
Not gonna lie, that Bee Sauce reimagining of Redacted looks really sweet! Not only is her design easier on the eyes while still keeping her up-beat singer motif, but the implied update to her character is also really nice, something that I feel could lead to a cute friendship between her and Skarner, instead of what should've led to an immense HATRED Skarner would have for her had Riot cared about Skarner's story.
her outline is a little too much like taliyah. part of designing champs is to make them look unique
How to solve the Singed problem:
Either make him two different characters ô e for the lore that keeps the name Singed but with a new gameplay and one for the old gameplay but with a new 'Amé and gameplay.
Or, and this is the best of the two options, put him in a fucking chemtech propulsed wheelchair like a 70 year old tuning grandpa that poison you with his exhaust gaz and cigarette smoke and you rework his ultimate so he use his wheelchairs nitro to move like Sion under his ult but he moves through units and bounces on walls rather than stopping and this last for 30 seconds.
You're onto something. Keep the flip though, his legs may be broke but it doesn't mean he can't yeet you with raw upper body strength
They could do singed kinda like Gangplank. Like give him a story where an experiment goes wrong and does him so much harm he has to hide and try to heal and upgrade himself and in doing so he emerges almost a new man.
Yeah but how do you give him a lore reason for needing a flipping device (shield or whatever) and a poison trail? Answer: Warwick chase sequence
@@JV-km9xk I had a game against a Warwick where I shit you not he jumped from first mid tower to the other. With PTSD potential like that of course he'd want to defend himself
As some peoples suggested: slap Singed inside a chem-tech suit and give him some ability to survive early game... also, Riot should just do a "lore-rework", not a rework of the lore but champs with still functional kits and upgrade them to their current lore or a new one with a visual update, such as Miss Fortune, Shaco, Blitzcrank, Kogmaw etc. like they did with the assassins' rework
I think Singed can be done, just have him Riding that weird Axolotl thing from Arcane around and have that be the "racecar"
Couldn't agree more about Varus. I love the character and his lore got me to try him in League and then I realized that the lore I loved was literally nowhere in Varus. He isn't even a Darkin he's a "Darkin"
Glad to see someone recognizing the issues with Varus. In his old lore, if I remember properly, he was an Ionian hunter who guarded this tentacle thing in a temple. His village got burned and everyone in it, leading to him taking the very dangerous thing he was supposed to guard (in game, that’s his ultimate). Retconning him into a darkin not only makes his voice lines make no sense, it also makes no sense for him to have the chain of corruption - where did a damn Darkin get it from?
I don’t get it, they really made him a whole ass music video and updated his splash art to modernize him a little but then did nothing else for him, he could definitely use an ASU.
Thanks so much for mention Varus as he is one of my favorite champions and some of the only good official MLM representation in league and I really want him to get an art and sustainability update.
Lissandra: I can hear so well I heard the voices of the watchers and was influenced by them
Seraphine: I can hear so well I hear voices
The lore community: Imma pretend i didn't read that part
I agree with your take on neeko, but in her case the solution is SO EASY TO MAKE!!! She's a shapeshifter, she can look however she wants, a super short lore of her, saying that is her tribe everbody is full camileon but is cultural or something to shape into something that you like to better represent your personality and practice their hability, and BOOM! You're done.
Shapeshifting is a part of their LANGUAGE. Imagine the possibilities of lore and culture for them
If [Redacted] didn't fly everywhere on a hoverboard, I might have given her a second chance but that thing just stands out too much from anything Runtarrain. It looks rediculous and I find it very hard to believe that something like her entire concept would exist naturally in this world.
I swear, every time I get her token I just sell it for BE and buy the worst fucking champ I can think of.
I dream one day of unlocking all other characters, including Ivern, and leave that obrobrious e-girl to rot in the shop forever.
Yea, imagine something that ridiculus existing in Runte-
1. Literal Hoverboars made in Piltover
2. World Runes able to destroy miles and miles
3. Crowns that can jail a god-like being
4. Time Machines made from scrap
5. Big mechs with ability to float made of scrap
6. Entirety of Piltover
7. Heimerdinger's and Zigg's inventions in Hextech Mayhem
8. SONA'S ETWAHL
Bottom Line: No, you wouldn't. You would have hated her just as much just because she's a generic singer and because you already had your brain infuenced by the community and youtubers hating on her, most of the time for invalid reasons.
Could she have been done better? Yea, of course she could. But the same can be said about literaly every champion in league if you go into them looking for flaws
@@mimic3872 One things first, I posted this comment before arcane and mayhem came out and I have not watched either one so I have no idea what is and isn't part of the city of Piltover.
I'm not sure when you mean when you say "bottom line: no you wouldn't." Do you mean that if I accept those other lore facts, I must accept her inclusion to Runeterra? I have to say no to that, from what I have read about the lore of the world, I do not believe that her character could appear in this setting organically, she feels like she was added only because they wanted to sell popstar skins.
Also, my dislike for this character isn't influenced by others, I have my own personal reasons to despise this character, the board is merely one of them.
@@johnjackson5542 "I posted this comment before arcane and mayhem came out (...)" - You posted it a month ago, while both Arcane and Hextech was out since November 2021, so that's just a straight up lie.
"I have not watched either one so I have no idea what is and isn't part of the city of Piltover." - Fair, except for the fact that I only mentioned Hextech Mayhem's inventions, which were a big part of the trailers which I find to belive you haven't seen at all.
" I'm not sure when you mean when you say (...)" - It was concering your "I might have given her a second chance but that thing just stands out too much from anything Runtarrain". I pointed out all the things that exists canonicly in Runeterra, with the exception of world runes, all of the things I listed were crafted. I was calling you out on the fact that there exists so many things similar to Seraphine's board or at least things that dispute your line about it standing out, since no the fuck it doesn't when you look at all the stuff that exist.
"Do you mean that if I accept those other lore facts, I must accept her inclusion to Runeterra?" - No, but I do want to ask you if you accept all the other things in Runeterra if you don't accept Seraphine's board.
"I do not believe that her character could appear in this setting organically" - Oh, so like Zed, Annie, Fiddlesticks, Zac, or any of the Void champions? Like it or not, many of the champions when looked at in the void do not fit the world of Runeterra. They have a lore that put them in it, but when looked at them objectivly, you wouldn't think of finding any of those in Runeterra either.
"she feels like she was added only because they wanted to sell popstar skins." - Most of the champions are made for the purpose of selling a skin, Seraphine only had her ultimate skin out immediatly because that's the thing that has been teased trough her tweets the entire time. Or would you rather have her fade into obscurity, then after a year or two Riot to release "More" and then the skin, after the twitter account stopped posting, after the hype for new character subsided and when people start to wonder where is K/DA Seprahine when she was teased so much? Because that would be simply a bad financial decision
"Also, my dislike for this character isn't influenced by others" - Oh really? I find it hard to belive, but ok.
"I have my own personal reasons to despise this character, the board is merely one of them." - This one I'll break into two points based on your original comment:
a) "If [Redacted] didn't fly everywhere on a hoverboard, I might have given her a second chance but that thing just stands out too much from anything Runtarrain." - you pointed it out as the thing that stands out too much so it's fair to belive that it's the thing that annoys you a lot about her.
b) "It looks rediculous and I find it very hard to believe that something like her entire concept would exist naturally in this world." - Fair, I find a concept of a man being cursed to never die in a fight to be a bit ridiculus... oh shoot, sorry, wrong champion. I mean, I find a concept of a demon trapped in a weapon but also being a weapon dumb... DAMN IT! let me try again... I find a concept of a guy being able to survive inside the cursed isles for all this time, the place who has been known to kill anyone who steps into it, preety ridiculus.... damn... I can't seem to get it right. Almost as if there are so many concepts in runeterra that sound ridiculus when taken at face value, that I keep messing it up...
So, in conclusion, my final words are: Don't accept Seraphine because other out of place things exist in Runeterra.... Hate every one of those things equally >:D
I can feel it. The creature is here.
She lurks
I really love Nautilus, but man do I hate to play him now. He's still my most played champion but he's now only viable as a support it feels awful. Especially when you considering that there is now an actual support from Bilgewater, who has revenge as their motif, is also undead, who also was betrayed by their captain, became a vengeful spirit of the ocean, and who both drag people in.
Actually I'm not sure how many people know this but when Pyke was released Nautilus' lore basically got deleted and replaced with a vague "Many tell stories of Nautilus but no one knows for sure who or what it is" kind of lore until he got it rewritten a few months later. Nautilus really should've just been reworked when Pyke came out because now there are two supports with basically the same lore, from the same place except one was actually designed for the support role.
In kind of a double-wammy kind of deal I feel like Nautilus should be more a of tanky/disruptor style of AP Juggernaut, playing sort of like Mordekaiser but with more tankiness and a bit less damage, while also changing Mordekaiser back to a more tanky/battlemage style of champion since he kind of doesn't work a lot of the time and when he does he's just a stat stick, Plus also because Mordekaiser never really was much of a Juggernaut until the 2019 rework where Riot decided he was solely gonna be a Juggernaut.
i play jg nautilus in WR and it can work
Just make singed be the cripple old guy he is in the lore but mounted on his mutant lizard/axolotl thingie from arcane to do the flipping and running, and Singed injecting the thing with shimmer for the R.
I have always had this idea for how Singed is going to turn out: They are going to rework Singed and preserve him as a tank with the high speed and similar identity. Singed's stories and lore are about Singed experimenting about putting another person's mind into a stronger body. I think when Singed gets reworked eventually, they will make it so Singed succeeded, transfusing his genius mind into a larger, bulkier, faster body. This way his lore as a genius scientist and his gameplay as a high-speed tank can both be preserved. We're probably a long way's away from this becoming a reality, and it IS just a theory, but this is how I think Singed is building up to.
current singed still garbo get him outta that WoW gear bruh
I feel like a decent amount of champions don't even need a full visual update and some don't even need an ASU. Theres more than a handful of champions who more than anything just need new voice lines.
The number one example I always give is Maokai. Maokai is a rare example of lore changes that don't retconn but instead progress the characters lore. Originally Maokai was just a tree from Twisted Treeline who came to life and was just depressed because he liked it better when he didn't know he was alive and was just a tree. This was reflected in his voice line "I once had peace..." showing he was just sad and wanted to go back to being nothing more than a tree. But now his lore has been updated, where he was just basically a druidic gardener bringing empty islands life with lush blooming forests, until the Ruination took that away from him. And instead of just wanting to go back to his own peaceful tree life, he fights back the undead that corrupted his home and brought him to life in the first place. He's got a fire in his eyes, a passion, something to fight for and protect. And this is reflected in his modern voice lines with (my personal favorite voice line in the game) him saying "I once had peace, it is better to have *purpose!"* (Honestly people talk about how Yorick got done dirty in the Ruination event but Maokai has a very similar purpose of fighting back against Viego's scourge of undead, and I'm surprised nobody brought him up along with Yorick)
Something as simple as updating voice lines to match the modern lore of a champion can do wonders for their in game representation. Characters like Lee Sin, Ashe, and especially Maokai have outdated models and older kits, but their aesthetic still holds strong because at least the things they're saying in game are no longer tied to those outdated models, and fit their compelling modern lore.
Varus more than anything needs updated voice lines. I completely understand and agree that his model is outdated, he came out like a decade ago. But seeing how Riot tends to prioritize skins and new champions above all else, something as simple as new voice lines could definitely make Varus stand out far more than he currently does.
Sad that I didn’t see Zilean in this list! He has such a cool concept behind him but he looks like a damn hippie attached to an old alarm clock. He is the most in need of a VGU by far
Zilean was prob.not on the list because of his LoR Version
Zilean ingame is mostly passable. He needs a model update and a different passive minimum because that thing is hit garbage.
I was really expecting orianna to be on the list, imo she could have a much cooler design and lore while still keeping the same game play that so many people enjoy.
I would've included Gwen there, she could've been so interesting man
What about Jax? A centuries old mutated warrior that has mastered all weapons known to man and is assembling a poweful army to fight the void = purple guy with lamp autoattacks you and say funny line
Jax pretty bad too ya. But at least he has a bit of uniqueness to him... even if that uniqueness isnt very good
I think Jax was basically completely redone personality wise with his mecha skin
I mean...the whole lamp point is to Brad a little that he doesn't need to have a weapon
I think an interesting route they could go with singed is to give him a mount, one of his monstrous creations. Maybe something like that big tube lizard from arcane. Then he can still run around and spew poison but his mad experimenting monster side also still exists.
They should do an ao kuang with singed:
In smite (the Moba) there was this character Ao Kuang who was a giant dragon. The thing is that it was supposed to be a Chinese god, but felt super memey and stupid to look at in dragon form, but had a decent kit of abilities. So what hi rez (the creators of the game) did was create a new dragon looking Quetzalcoatl boi to have og Ao Kuang s kit, and then Design a completely new katana wielder Dragon god to be the new reworked Ao Kuang. I loved that.
As much as I played Sera, god what Bee sauce did looks SO GOOOOOD!! GIMME
now the real question is: who between Alistar and Shaco will get their Lore finally updated to make some sense
Shaco lore is so outdated and garbage it's fucking hilarious and I kind of want to keep it like it
I honestly think REDACTED was the #1 missed potential. She could have been one of the most badass female powerhouses while also being a young and cute bubblegum themed girl. That's such a break of stereotypes society has made for us. As someone who's girly I'm disgusted with how they fked up litterally everything about this champion.
Bro signed is so easy to fix, just make him overdose on that purple shit in arcane.
the only way i can see singe get reworked visually and make sense lore wise is that if he were to decide to finally use his mutagens on himself and turn himself into a tanky monster that emit toxic gas. his ult could even be him taking shimmer or something, but the problem is that this makes him way to simmilar to new mundo
It be fitting for Singed to have a Chemtank Armor when he is in combat. An Armor that release toxic shimmer and spread it... Singed desperately needed a VGU...
Genuine question about Singed. Would it be possible to “split” him into two champions? Lore Singed gets added to the game and ingame Singed gets maybe a name change and its a different hero now? Like i honestly think this might be the best of solutions to get the best of both versions idk
I like how redesigned Seraphine's braid looks like a little scorpion stinger, signalling her visually as an ally of the scorpion-like Brakern.
Varus as a corrupted human being already has the best kickstart in his original lore, bur saddly he is more a generic demon now that wants to kill all in his way, than the anti-hero he was, searching for those responsible of the Noxian invasion of Ionia and the killing of his wife and son, while fights the corruption in his body... That's a downgrade that even leave Val and Kai as an irrelevant element in the actual lore, because in the end this is a killing game, we go to the rift to shoot and kill with Varus, Val and Kai may talk but they can't do a shit to stop him or us for doing so.
I think both versions of singed could be united if in arcane they showed him taking shimmer and getting really agile and fast, and in game they could make him change appearance when he starts zoomin to represent the shimmer in his body
something like that
I think arcane isn't canon so, a lore update in the lol page
i think a good singed can be done, but it'd involve essentially deleting current singed, as his race car mach 5 mustard gas trail play style doesn't match the cold calculating chemist we've seen. he gassed a war from a distance because it would end it faster, he didn't go running to the front line and tank 37 arrows to sonic his way around it.
in arcane he looks so sick too
I think the point about viktor is a good one.
With the release of arcane and it showing Viktor before he became who he is right more, I think it would be really great if we saw a refinement or rework of his models to reflect on what we saw in arcane, maybe with season 2 where we will probably see in more depth about the journey he took to turn into the machine herald.
Pretty sure the reason why varus looks the way he is (purple instead of red) is cause he uses hemomancy (blood magic) not the same way the other darkin uses it (healing themselves) but instead he blights enemies blood (his W passive blight) which would make sense according to the theory that the 5 darkin are based on the four horsemen of the apocalypse with varus and his sister being pestilence and conquest.
I really like Varus’ design in-game, but I wouldn’t be opposed to them updating his design and voice-lines if they kept his gameplay exactly the same. He’s a very fun character to play imo.
I have a solution for Singe that can keep the lore and gameplay version of him intact :
The idea is to have Singe on top of a monster or sitting in a robot like dr.robotnik. That way we can have the model of a lore fitting Singe and keep his gameplay. He could throw his bottles while his monster/robot would dispense the toxic gas and charge at foes to knock them behind him.
What do you think about that?
I think the obvious thing to do with Singed is completely redo his kit, then make a new champion in the next update that just has his old kit and is maybe related to him in some way (Someone who works for him? Failed cloning experiment? Something like that)
yes plz rito
Viktors design could be that in game he gets more and more turned into a robot due to the disease overtaking him more and more so he just needs to keep adding more robot parts onto him
It would make more sense that he is obsessed with changing himself now
7:09 I'm a Seraphine but this Design looks sick just Delete seraphine and We need to get this
Maybe what they can do with singed is rework him into a AP mage who combines chemicals into special potions with different effects. Like his Q, W, E are the ingredients abilities and then his R combines them into a new ability based on the ingredients used.
idk if someone already commented this but the "eye thing" you said that was on malzahars head. thats actually his hollow head. its just a hole in his hood that you can see his hollow skull malformed by void magic
You know what, after thinking about Malzahar for a REALL Y long time after watching this on release, I think his design fits his character perfectly
I think it would work, if they'd split Singed.
Like, give us a new champion which follows gameplay- and designwise the crazy, old scientist Singed and rework the old Singed into some other, new character, which speeds around with a poison trail and flings people.
Don't know how you would change the name problem, cause that would be hella confusing at first and because his identity is so iconic, but that would be Riot's concern lol. You get the idea.
Basically the only way to rework Singe is either rework him on the level of the Aatrox rework and completly alienate everyone who plays him. Or ass fuck the lore because he's connected to so many other characters
The best that riot has put out is fully embracing the concept of a character but the thing is they rarely do that lmao, they come up with something and then swtich it up to be compatable for the wider audience.
Mel is a better Solari than Leona.
You know what would’ve been cool? If they spun nautilus to be from piltover instead of bilgwater. The tilth is neat but a faction interaction between piltover, zaun, and the shadow isle would’ve been interesting to explore. A man from piltover goes on a diving expedition, equipped with the latest I. Hextech diving equipment, his superiors take a greedy deal from some Chem baron and he goes under during the harrowing. His hextech keeps him alive, but only just- as the mist below the waves consumes him. The piltover bosses deny they were ever there and they cut him off- but nautilus remembers, and he’s on a mission to make the greedy high ups pay for literal burial at sea. His diving suit could be made more corrupted, with some semblance of fancy fancy piltover aesthetics, broken tanks of oxygen, the algae growing in and out of his cracked face plate, and an ever thumping wet trudge as he drags his anchor across the floor, every swing laboured but full of anger, and corrupted hextech that pulses out black mist. Instead of his random torpedo thing, his ult could pull under instead of knock up, a speeding tendril of mist that literally pulls you to the depths. A ghostly titan that creaks and buckles like a derelict ship, and Erie haunting ghostly voices- from what sounds like a broken communicator. How fucking sick would that be
Bamboozled even in the thumbnail, nicely done Nicky, nicely done.
Yes another Nicky vid about bad sides of league that not that many wan't to discuss. :D
Nicky still out here with Ana-via wheeeeeeeeeze
fr loving these videos though haha, love to hear your perspective
Damn this Nicky guy is amazing, and the dude under me seems very cool!
I love Neeko design she’s beautiful the way she is and so visually appealing 🦎❤️
Yea, she already looks bit goofy, give her a full on chameleon face and she would just end up looking dumb
I think that they should change singed entirely and release a new champ with the same function, because a character that leaves a trail of poison, throw sticky thing to the group, lift you 3 feet into the air and boost himself is not a scientist but a monster, perhaps the guy we saw in arcane or another zaunite creature could fit the part but there's no way that the scientist make the part of the Monster unless you have some sort of Jekyll and Hyde scenario
Thank god finally someone said it
Singed could be updated as an in lore explaination like with Pantheon or Gangplank. Where he is found by the people of zaun for his awful experiments and people start coming after his ass because of the horrible things hes done. Singed turns to viktor in his hour of need as Singed has spent too much time in Zaun that hes lost favor with Piltover, and Viktor removes his arms and legs and replaces them with prosthetics due to singed's old age making him frail. With viktors help they construct a small mechanized suit which singed can wear whenever he is in danger, with the in game explaination for his Q being a method of slowing or killing his pursuers. Maybe Viktor didn't approve of it directly or maybe he doesn't care. Details could be worked out later, but you could still create a reason for why singed plays like he does. Mans literally wants to keep being an evil mad scientist in Zaun but his moral failures have caught up to him and he now spends his life running from vigilantes and the law.
2:49 thank you forgefireram for informing nicky about ruined reckoners silly belt buckle, god bless!
One thing I think they could do with Singed is take his kit and give it to a new champion that would fit it and may be tweak some stuff and changed Singed's gameplay to fit more it to his lore which honestly I wouldn't know how considering that it's really hard
It's a good thing Leona has her eclipse skins. I think if it had brown, gold, and red, it would be perfect for a heavily armored sun knight.
That might happen more now because the skin team runs the ASUs now
Nicky! Awesome vid as always. Would you consider doing some sort of deep-dive for LoL history and lore? Almost like an ice-berg thing (if they’re still in trend) you could make it sooo interesting. Anyhow your YT channel will blow up
thinking about it ya. my main issue it i come up with videos 30x faster than i can make them
@@NickyBoi fair enough haha.
Maybe since Singed is a mad scientist he could have done experiments on himself. That can explain the speed gameplay with horrific mutations that explain his lore side
Viktor's faceplate actually is a mask, I'm pretty sure. It's mentioned that he drinks sweetmilk in his short story, and I don't know how he could do that without a mouth.
Probably functions like a welding mask / gas mask hybrid which would obviously be very useful to him.
I love Shen as a ordinary ninja clad with armor, but his kit and his lore is so odd to me. Riot going for a different approach as a ninja whose father is a grandmaster honestly could've been better when he was being reworked.
(4:00) There are a lot of people in Legends of Runeterra that would make great champions. I would love to see Cithria become a champion. It would be cool to have her ride around the battlefield on a Silverwing Raptor.
I think that Varus should have four arms and have the one set of arms more situated on his back. He could have arrows imbedded in his back that he pulls out with the extra arms and nocks into his bow while still being able to hold the bow at the ready with his main set of arms. It would make him look more like a fusion of two people and also the arrows in his back wouls go with his betrayal theme and weapon fused with person theme.
Riot needs or is probably already thinking about redesigning Viktor's augmented form for Arcane season 2 (I hope it's still cool af)
I could see redacted being like The Deep from the boys, when listening to skarners people
Singed gonna be the main character in Arcane Season2, pretty sure we will see him run like a mad man, maybe not with a bottle on his back
Calling it now. There's going to be a scene where he's being chased so he lets out a stream of farts and locks the door behind him and they die horribly while he cackles
It'll be just like in game
I truly hope that Varus gets an ASU soon, his concept is awesome, but his design does nothing with it.
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The fact that I always think Nico and Lillia are the same character just different skins is concerning.
The only way I could see lore singed be in game and not jeopardize in game singed is if they made him a shapeshifter .
One version being him running around, poison trail behind him and flipping people like we're used to
The other one being a mad scientist throwing concotions at your face while buffing or healing himself and his allies with them.
Maybe they could balance it by making him able to change only in fountain (as if he gear up for race car singed and equips potions for alchemist singed) or make him able to swap to which style on the spot (like nida, jayce, elise,etc...) because singed has more identity in his spells than ult.
I'm kind of surprised Oriana didn't make this list
What is a shame is that I'm a [redacted] main because I love her kit and playstyle the most, but her appearance, lore, and backstory is just so terrible, not to mention the worse marketing campaign of all time led up to her release.
Chemtech powered wheelchair Singed: old man who goes fast, can keep the lore, can keep most of his gameplay features, similar to urgot, but wheelchair instead of crab legs (like that one yasuo mod that puts him in a wheelchair)
All they need to do to fix xeraths weird armor, is to bring it a bit closer together so it resembles the sarcophagus shape better
Making Neeko "more chameleon" to represent her lore as closer to the Vastayashai'rei undermines the lore of the Vastaya, because you'd be implying that other more animalistic Vastaya like Rengar, Nami and Wu Kong are also closer to the Vastayashai'rei.
I'm glad happy to see Leona on this list, but you could have sold her much more, not only does she look even less Solari than her followers, but Pantheon, another champion and former Solari, has more modern solari elements in his design than Leona.
I feel like this dude Will say a hot take just cause he got bigger off two videos that you can say are just hot takes anyways
We should make lore singed ride on the shoulders of in-game Singed. Problem solved 😎
Imo they should put singed in a turbo chemtank in game then he can somewhat keep his gameplay but still have a reason for him to receive a asu/vgu, The turbo chemtank would give him a reason to be fast, and you can just say "well he's a scientist 🧚" for his poison trails or even make it so his chemtank is broken and the chemicals are leaking, same with the flip, we know turbo chemtank gives people enhanced strength so it'd be pretty easy to justify him being inside one, while keeping in lore singed out of one
Also having a ""mech suit"" character would be sick af
I was there at the stream, and god the making of that top 10 was soooo funny
I just want to say the dagger in Malzahar's splashart is not a mislead. Its actually in his lore. Before all of these "void stuff" malzahar was a huge visioner. He was able to see the future. And he was earning money from other magical tricks. And one time during one of his trick sth went wrong and he killed someone with this dagger. I dont remember anymore if it was his assistant or someone from audience. But after this incident Malzahar said that future cant be seen. Its unpredictable. He decided not to use his power anymore and he always keeps this dagger next to him to remember. Ive been curious why he has dagger on every single splashart of his skins but never uses it.
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I actually got chills from this guy.
WHY is he not a champion yet. JUST LOOK AT HIM. I'M DISAPPOINTED IN MYSELF FOR NOT SEEING THIS GUY EARLIER.
Very good content, homie. Keep it up
Couldn’t u just make singed have like small noticeable but not glaring tubes going into his legs from the canister in his back to make his gameplay make more sense with lore? Personally I think his dumb world of Warcraft shield is a far more of a glaring issue to fix than his abilities. The main reason I think this is because is remembered this one scene from arcane, we see victor, a cripple who needed a walking stick to get anywhere, RUNNING 🏃♂️ across some doc in piltover after injecting himself with a vile he got from SINGED. It might just be a wild educated guess but I definitely feel there’s potential there for THAT scene to set up for a future singed rework or asu. (Ignoring all the cannon issues with arcane and league)
2:55 Now everyone can't unsee it.
Goddammit, I'm still laughing
I think the solution (kinda) to the Singed problem is to take the champion Singed, and rename him. Make him some big, chem-fueled Zaunite knucklehead, I dunno. And then take Singed, the name, and put that on a new champion. Preferably a gross enchanter-style support with a bag full of chemical nightmares. It preserves gameplay Singed, but under a different name, and gives us a more accurate representation of lore Singed. this is obviously a big undertaking and its never gonna happen, but still,
Great video Nicky!
Ideas (completely subjective) to 'improve' each champ on this list,
*insert TB Skyen talking about better design*
10 - Malzahar - Just make him more corrupted, maybe remove an arm, run the tyranid route where he physically creates his lil voidlings
9 - Alistar - Give some armour, some battle damage, hell considering (iirc) he was a slave-gladiator, maybe brand the insignia of Noxus onto him
8 - Leona - COVER them in plate armour, with a bit of silver to represent Diana, maybe even add some sun-related devices like a sundial or smthn, use some Aurelion Sol imagery considering HE MADE THE THING
7 - Xerath - Everything Nicky already said
6 - Viktor - Just make a deal with Games Workshop for the rights to the mechanicus
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4 - Vaarus - Change colour to reed, add second a in name, if still want to stay without a shirt, then follow Aatrox and make it all horrible and blood-magic warped
3 - Lillia - Nicky's redesign solves most of this
2 - Neeko - Everything Nicky said, maybe grab some trinkets from everywhere she visited and put them in a bag she carries
1 - Singed - As Nicky said, really difficult to do, but considering Singed's thing is trying to live forever // making his body stronger, give him some augments (Warwick-style not Viktor-style), use Chemtech, maybe even grab anything from Arcane to give to him
Again, just my opinion