Daycare Worker Confesses to Throwing Child on Tile Floor | Melissa Calusinski Case Analysis
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If my child was known to throw his head back like that, he would have been wearing a helmet or head brace to daycare to prevent this.
Right. This is awful
I said that, plus why would the day care continue to accept him? They're liable for any injuries he obtains whilst there
a boy who I used to take care did this too, that's why i always carried him on my back or put him in the baby carrier and never left him on the floor, my guess is that the girl didn't know better and she didn't prevent this, the boy keep hurting himself.
You're pretty much nailed exactly why she's still in jail.
Perfect example showing: In the USA, if you’re guilty, you need a lawyer. And if you’re innocent, you DEFINITELY need a lawyer. Why do people talk to the cops?? They’re not your friends!
I blame police propaganda, I mean, cop shows and other similar dramas. They are portrayed as the best of the best and hero’s so someone with just that as their reference will trust that they’re the good guys. All those shows are just propaganda. It’s not even a secret
But the cuckservatives tell me to back the blue?
EXACTLY!!!!!
@@djkb125 Good point.
Can't agree more.
I personally put my foot in my mouth even when I am not in stress,
You know what's sad? Other than the child dying; the parents knew this was going on and they could at any point go back to the court and say that their son did usually throw himself backward and hit his head, but they refuse to! Instead of accepting accountability for not getting their son the behavioral health he needed, they're pawning it off on someone with developmental disabilities. Sick, sick, sick people.
Edit; and if you didn't understand what I'm saying I'm talking about everybody involved. This child was failed by far more than just by his parents and the daycare.
That's modern parenting 101: They don't get ahead of an issue to prevent tragedy, they WAIT til tragedy strikes then they respond! They're stupid!
For safety's sake, the child could have been fitted with protective headgear while addressing the underlying behavioral issues.
@@macheefkaze sad but true
@@sansnom508 but then they would have to admit that something was behaviorally wrong with their child and take accountability for that. And you know that's not going to happen! Where are these parents even? I don't even know what the parents said about the incident afterwards. It seems like they haven't been interviewed, at least not publicly or that I can find.
Parents were obviously wrong but also no one with intellectual disabilities or disabilities that will negatively impact their ability to care for children in any way should be taking care of anyone else’s kids
I agree with Dr. Grande. Shame on the police department. There should be laws against interrogating someone with a mental deficit without a lawyer and for extended periods of times.
I agree. If you haven't heard of the West Memphis Three, look into how getting a false confession from a teenager with a low IQ got three boys sent to prison for life for a triple murder. Literally 100% false, completely made up confession led by police. Certain cognitive deficits should require legal representation from the start. She might be guilty but she might not! Didn't have much of a chance of getting through a 9 hour interrogation either way.
Or anybody for that matter! They so often bully people into false confessions!
That would hinder corruption investigations into many holders of high office
Technically she isn't. Where does one start measuring a deficit?
Police would say they aren't required or qualified to make a decision about who is mentally deficient. Yet somehow, they seem to zero in on the person with low intelligence and interrogate them for hours until they're ready to say anything to make it stop. The same thing happened with Jessie Misskelley, which resulted in 3 innocent men going to jail and one of them on death row.
No camera in the classroom, and tile on the floor which babies could easily slip upon and fall. What a terrible daycare set up. RIP to the Poor baby.
This just made me think of an idea… could they live stream a camera of daycares that parents are able to watch at any time?
@@katiebunny3396That’s interesting, but they’d have to address privacy concerns etc.
Tiles are easier to clean but are dangerous after spills and during wet weather. Probably not the best flooring in a daycare.
@@katiebunny3396 there are daycares that do this! At least where I am in the Cincinnati area.
@@Marina-pt9ez that's good thank God
People do not acknowledge how much iq matters, they don’t want it to but it does
Exactly 🎯!
especially how much different it is in terms of race.
@@sullivanknoth6430 You can't be serious in what you are implying...
@@jinelbrito8737 How are science, common sense, simple observation, and historically recognized patterns not serious?
What are you trying to say here? You sound like a bigot. @@sullivanknoth6430
All child care places should have cameras definitely!
Major League Baseball does. 😐
Totally agree with you !!
until you realize someone is misusing diaper change videos....
(or clothing change videos)
"The courts might not work anymore, but as long as everyone is videotaping everyone else justice will be done!" - Marge Simpson.
I agree 100%. Wrong use of Data can be easily regulated and avoided while priorizing Kids and workers safety through surveillance.
I wish there were cameras in every childcare center.
“They aren’t looking for justice, they are looking for confession” - well said, so true. Unfortunately so many people become victims of this
There is so much reasonable doubt in this case, how this girl ended up in prison is beyond me!!!!!
She is white and from an upper middle class neighborhood in Cook County, Illinois. She satisfies a quota so police will railroad them to avoid having more black people in prison.
A jury of her peers. The average person is an idiot and very susceptible to suggestion and influence from crafty lawyers. He touched on IQ in the video here and really the average is around 90-95 in the us. Too many damn dumb people out there. It’s like the movie idiocracy was a documentary.
It’s a TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE.
Welcome to America
Scary.
@@ld3418😮
Why is nobody talking more about the fact that Nancy saw Ben throw himself backwards onto the floor and placed him into a bouncy chair while Melissa was in the restroom? It was only later, after Melissa came out of the bathroom that she noticed he was unresponsive and intervened, in order to help him.
Law enforcement's eagerness to solve cases sometimes leads to scapegoating the easiest targets rather than finding the true culprit. Unfortunately, this can result in innocent individuals being wrongfully convicted. It doesn't seem likely that Melissa is guilty of first degree murder. It's not even convincing that she is guilty of anything.
Yes! What happened to Nancy’s account of the story?
THIS!! Yes, Please! What did Nancy have to say? Melissa wasn't even in the room when the last tantrum occurred?WTF? I'm so confused! None of this makes any sense to me! Back up, back up. Melissa knows nothing except what she was told. She denied, denied, denied 70+ times (even as a "people-pleaser" with a low IQ) yet, the System was played out long enough to break her down into a false confession!?! NOT GUILTY! ... And MY child would have been fitted for a padded helmet after the 2nd "head-bounce tantrum" I knew about.
@@alexac921 I would also like to hear more about this.
Weak evidence against her. As a juror, I wouldn't convict.
I wouldn't have either.
Source: I have sat on one Petit (Trial) Jury and several Grand Juries.
The police just go after someone, so they have a conviction. Once they decide you're it...
@@gusgrizzel8397 Yeah that's it, all they care about is a conviction. SOMEONE must be blamed and they will pick the easiest target. Guilt, innocence, justice, none of that matters so long as someone gets the blame and someone goes to jail.
@@Mandrake42 Yes, they don't want to spend hours trying to get the real killer, they want to get someone they know they can convict and be successful.
A big part of the problem is the number of people that are under the impression that no innocent person would confess to a crime that they didn't do. More people need to be educated on the methods that interrogators can and do use in order to extract false confessions. Too many jurors take those confessions at face value without understanding that it is not the irrefutable evidence that they think it is.
"a false confession will suit them just fine" is the most important thing to know about police interrogations
Exactly. I don't know any of the details regarding this case outside of what we just watched in this video, but it sounds to me that this was a case of a child died and they needed SOMEONE to point the finger at, since the death of a child always equals extreme emotional tension. They didn't need the truth so much as they needed a scapegoat to direct all those emotions toward. Any scapegoat will do.
@@the_original_just_mike innocent people must know and actively exercise their legal rights because many prosecutors will happily pin a crime on an innocent person if they are able to.
I had a baby who threw herself backwards like that! That is why there are mats!!!!!!
NEVER EVER talk to the police without an attorney. Why didn’t the parents seek help for Ben throwing himself backward on the floor? They could have had him fitted with a foam helmet.
On a side note, It really is a tragedy that this country doesn’t value paid maternity leave. In some countries, women get a year of paid leave. I can’t imagine having to put a baby in daycare when only a few weeks old. I’m so thankful I didn’t have to put my babies in daycare until they were almost school age.
It's a tragedy for you perhaps: it means you have to cover the costs associated with your own children.
@@eadweard. That's the way it should be. People SHOULDNT be having children if they can't cover the costs of them. That's why so many kids are suffering
@@Thebeezzkneezz. So what is the cost of taking care of a child for a year without income? How much do you need in savings to stay home with a child for a year?
I don't know why people still don't know this!!! How many Programmes do we see that tell you to ask for a lawyer immediately ???? I see that all the time. It is crazy to think people still talk to the police after being offered a lawyer. It is part of the Maranda reading - if you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be provided for you....... take it then, Get one.
There is NO reason the tax payers should have to pay a woman to NOT WORK for a year.... Perhaps people should just be accountable to their own choices?
My son’s daycare has cameras in his classroom and on the playground, and it gives me so much peace of mind. Protects the workers too. A camera in this case would’ve given a definitive answer, one way or the other.
i agree , its frustrating not knowing what really happened , i just dont believe she picked him up and threw him down , it does happen but my belief is that he threw his head back again and it affected the previous bump , had there been cameras we would know for sure , i feel a bit sorry for her , obviously if she did it , then she deserves everything she got and more , i just question the verdict tbh
Cameras in daycares protect everyone.
@@USS_Sentinel I agree!! Cameras are so inexpensive these days, that there's no excuse for all places that give children care not to have them. The parents should also have access to these cameras. It would keep so many kids safe, as well as help in cases like this one.
This occurred 14 years ago. Not common back then
They even have them in doggie daycares now. So there you go.
My daughter once slipped and fell backwards onto tile floor after getting out of the bathtub. She was only 14 months at the time. And, I felt so horrible about it 😢…still do!! She cried hard, but was Ok. This is just a sad story for everyone involved. RIP sweet baby.
Did I hear 9 hours of questioning and 70 times stating that she was innocent before her story changed? Anybody would be exhausted and just want it to be over! 😢 Poor little baby, he was so cute with his 2 little front teeth!!!
I get why people falsely confess but why oh why would one admit to actually doing something?
All that does is dig yourself deeper into a hole, and make the case against you much easier.
But for Ben, it is tragic how if he were still alive he’d be 16 years old right now :(
@@RB01.10She was easily tricked because she is retarded, it's horrible they convicted her with not much else than a coerced "confession". She probably was confused and exhausted and just saying yes to whatever story they were making up that she did to him. Police do a guessing game in interviews where they present all sorts of possible scenarios for their suspect to say yes or no to.
The kid was also likely special needs and maybe the parents wanted rid of him as well but it seems like they found a weak link with her and figured they would more likely get a "confession" from the daycare worker.
They kept interrogating her until she confessed to something she didn’t do. I hope, someday, she’ll be free.
I used to work in daycare. I've worked with people who should not be let anywhere near children.
yes same in disability and aged care - sad
Oh my goodness! One of my three grandchildren used to do this. Just threw himself backwards, even when you were holding him! It was nerve wracking. That poor woman was absolutely railroaded. It feels good to put someone in jail for child abuse, but this just doesn’t feel right.
i agree = 9 hours interrogation is a form of torture.
Yes, it sounds like something they would do to spies
I think Melissa is innocent , she had absolutely no history of violence , she rarely even raised her voice I think Ben's previous head injury was the key to his death......
I agree
@@angelblue314 ouch🥺
@@angelblue314 Yoy got ten years on me girlfriend! My attitude is almost like yours!! Lol. This case though, we can agree to disagree! With all due respect ❤️
@@angelblue314 Born and raised in Philly Pa - now a Poconos PA transplant!!!
@@angelblue314you have low comprehension of the facts
This is so sad. Never work in a daycare that doesn’t have cameras. Those cameras not only protect the children but the teachers as well
As a nurse, if my child had a head injury then developed swelling, fever, then vomiting I would have never left that hospital and pressed the doctors.
No matter if you are not under arrest and they just want to "question" you, never speak without an attorney present. People think "well, I have nothing to hide", but all police want is a confession! Remember, you have the right to remain silent. Exercise that right.
True. And recently I've found out the hard way that you also have to be very careful talking to the police as either a victim or as a witness. A police interview can quickly turn into an interrogation and you can go from being a victim or an informant to being a suspect without even knowing it.
The objective of a police investigation ought to be to seek the facts, not to seek evidence to support their prejudice opinions.
Daycare facilities should be required to have functional cameras!!!
As a teen I had unlimited patience for other people's babies. I went and got all 3 CPR certifications, state certified as a registered babysitter, just to be taken seriously. Babies are a treasure, each one highly loved by the parents. I'd be terrified to make a mistake.
By the time I had my own at 25, I was content to only raise and be responsible for my own, I'm old and tired now.
Same
Guilty or not NEVER talk to law enforcement without an attorney!!!
True. And recently I've found out the hard way that you also have to be very careful talking to the police as either a victim or as a witness. A police interview can quickly turn into an interrogation and you can go from being a victim or an informant to being a suspect without even knowing it.
Don’t talk to them with a lawyer.
The punks can legally lie to you over and over. You have a right to remain silent.
I think there are only two statements that can be safely made to interrogating police officers:
1) I want to speak to my attorney.
2) I have nothing to say to you, officer.
I don’t send my two youngest (15 months and 7 weeks) to daycare for reasons like this.
7 weeks in daycare?
@@ritanandori1850 Some women have to go back to works after just a month.
@@leannemo7382 That's rough.
Dr. Grande, I kid you not, I’m about to go visit a daycare and this did not decrease my anxiety level! I still love you though.
Private Daycare at someone's house is much more dangerous. Just ask to see State Accreditation.
dont do it! dont leave strangers to watch your precious child
@waterenglish9501 Not everyone has the luxury of not working and not everyone has a family member/friend able or willing to watch the kid. Must be nice to have those privileges.
Make sure they have cameras throughout thier facility, also ask if you can sign in to view live time of the classroom.
@@waterenglish9501 parents have no other choice. they lack foresight and they're selfish. they get pregnant, because they want a baby, even though they cant afford to raise the child without sticking them in some sort of institution. They don't have children to raise children.... they have children so someone else can raise them while they're at work. Remember when that virus hit.... almost every parent in the country was crying "where will my kid get lunch and snacks if the schools are closed?!" (while they collect child tax benefit, child support, section 8 and food stamps)........
you might consider them "precious children" but most parents just think of them as a right of passage that they can stick on a warehouse shelf while they live their lives. parents don't consider what sort of lives their children will have when they're planning to have them; that's insignificant to their entitled wants.
they "dont want your input" but at the same time "it takes a village; where's my village"........
everyone should just submit and give up their hard-earned tax dollars so these "parents" can stay home and parent their children..... we work hard, they sit on their cornihole.
If I was a juror, I wouldn't convict based on this evidence. How come they only believed her when she agreed she did it. The people who interviewed her should be ashamed of themselves. Despicable!!
I can't believe there is any daycare without cameras all over
I guess back 10+ years ago they all didn’t budget for cameras, which is still ridiculous!
My 74 yr old husband is in a highly rated nursing home because he is paralyzed and I could no longer care for him at home. I visit daily.
Using the iPad, my daughter connected my husband’s room so he and I could FaceTime.
Staff, especially nurses or aides from agencies, know that my husband and I would talk late at night when he was anxious, and we’d often just listen to each other breathe until he’d fall asleep. So I accidentally had a nanny cam, and I won’t repeat the mis-treatment of my husband or how I saw 2 ‘aides’ rifling through his things at 1:00 AM. The reason I’m writing this is to give my opinion, based on 4 years experience, that my child or adult loved one will ALWAYS have a nanny cam in their room.
Thats awful... can't trust anyone
Even as a teenager, I had enough insight to understand that fussy and screaming children were not a career choice. People love their own children, but should never expect others to love them as they do. Children require competent adults to care for them. Not other children, nor adults who aren’t operating as another adult would.
You absolutely cannot expect a stranger to care for your child anywhere near as well as you do. It's a complete gamble to leave your child in the care of a stranger.
Agree. Not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Hard call. But the state used coercion.
Somehow I feel like a lot of daycare workers are on the lower end of the IQ scale
Excellent points.
It's bad enough that several abuses have taken place at daycares but no cameras and a tile floor would be a red flag not to leave my baby there.
The girl told the police what she thought they wanted to hear so they could go home.
I think she could be innocent with everything you presented. Poor Ben either way😑Great points as always. Thanks Dr G😊🤍🤍
I believe she’s innocent, too. It’s possible he fell from her arms just by throwing himself backward. Everyone who’s held a little kid who’s tired and fussy knows how quickly they can fall if you’re not super attentive and if they’re prone to doing that. Poor little guy seems like he had some neurological problems already and looks like possibly a preemie. It’s hard to expect a special needs person to be able to care for a special needs child. It’s already exhausting to a person with full capabilities.
Personally I think she got blamed when the daycare was responsible. First for exploiting the labor of a special needs woman, I doubt she was paid well, and second for not having at least three workers so that there were two present at all times. And she got blamed when the parents could have sued the center for lack of safety. Imo no little kids should have been around a hard tile floor, and this little guy in particular should have had a helmet on.
She wasn't smart enough to defend herself.
im on the side of her being innocent
9 hours interview , they used tactics like saying a expert disagreed with her explanation.
Her lack of intellect probably got her confused , therefore the experts had to be right , which confused her into making a confession.
The smoking gun is the fact he kept throwing his head back and already had a lump , suggesting he does it quite hard , there has to be correlation between that and his illness he had afterwards,, i think he did it again and it was the last straw his head could take.
She probably didnt have the money for a good defence team , and i think the prosecution used everything against her and the defence didnt so a good enough job.
How it was beyond a reasonable doubt frightens me , the fact he throws his head back puts a huge question mark and i couldnt give a guilty verdict , my conscience couldnt convict with the question of "What if" he threw his head back.
What?
He was definately special needs with the way he was acting. Maybe severe autism or ADD. But definately something mental.
I agree the child likely was going to grow up with disabilities, I'm shocked the parents didn't pick up on that and have a helmet for him. Maybe they were too poor to get him extra care, unfortunately insurance won't pick up the tab for any assistance until they reach a certain age and can be formally diagnosed autistic.
When the state "loses" potentially exculpatory evidence like x-rays of the victim's fatal injury, and especially when an anonymous tip leads to their "rediscovery," that should be immediate grounds for a retrial and professional sanction against the DAs involved. Maybe it was entirely accidental, but that makes no difference, except maybe that it means the DAs don't need to be prosecuted for withholding and/or tampering with evidence.
I believe the parents are lying and are responsible for their son's death
Very possible. It's likely the kid was disabled if he was prone to frequent tantrums and self injury. Kids who are difficult with special needs have a higher rate of being killed or severely injured by a caregiver, usually the parents. The hell of dealing with sometimes violent tantrums and frequent screaming leads some people to just snap.
@@gossamer9966 For all the years of Roe v Wade, the USA leads the world in number of live birth with pre-confirmed genetic deformities.
8:47 yup, throwing themselves backwards only causes a bump. It's horrible, babies should not be on tile.
Are you aware that many homes have tile throughout? I.e. Florida.
I have a toddler. When he's very tired or overstimulated, he throws his head back. Lots of toddlers do this.
Honestly, this is the reason I will never trust a daycare. We struggle on a single income just so I can be sure my children are safe. Babies are so vulnerable, and some people just don't care.
I’m not convinced of her guilt. She was a little bullied in the interrogation and it’s possible she said what she wanted the detectives to say.
She was a lot bullied. She probably told the detectives what she thought would end the interview so she could go home and go to sleep. I don't know how a confession obtained like that could be introduced at trial and if it was how a jury could believe it.
Some cases you just can't be snarky or sarcastic about, this is one of those cases.
That's weird, many years ago my nephew about 4 or 5 years old, was "found" by daycare workers with a massive subdural hematoma and rushed to the ER. Once there, the doctors told the parents it looked like someone took a heavy metal pipe and smashed him on the head! He had surgery to reduce the swelling and had to wear a helmet like thing for several months until he skill bones fused beck. I wanted my cousins to sue the daycare. It just doesn't happen, and someone should have been watching him! They refused to sue and just wanted it to end. The kid turned out ok, but what a trauma he went through! It should not ever be that you take your kid to daycare and they end up with such a bad injury?
If only we lived as families, husband , stay at home mother and children receiving attention from their parents.
Thank you for helping Ms. Calusinki. Thank you for daily modeling a rational perspective, Dr. Grande.
There should be time limits on police interviews, so they can't have people make false confessions from exhaustion and sleep deprivation.
Poor girl-she was stitched-up good and proper by the system....
Sidenote: I live about 30 minutes from Chicago. Lincolnshire is pronounced "Lincoln Shire"(shire like wire)
I grew up in "greater Chicagoland", and I have never heard it pronounced Lincoln-sheer.
I worked in Libertyville, this is correct.
I just posted the same, lol! I live near there as well.
I was just about to post this! 😂 I live in Chicago too!
"Sheer" is typically for British places, "shire" like wire is more typically American places.
Folks I am no doctor by far but I do have a child that I raised to adulthood without breaking her.
He has a lump. He has a fever and he's throwing up. He has a serious skull fracture! For god sakes! And how in the hell 2 different doctors didn't catch it is beyond me. The two doctors that gave him a good bill of health afterwards should have their license suspended.
If he kept falling backwards all the time, he should have had a helmet of some kind.
If Melissa lost her temper with John enough to severely hurt him, then why were the other children unscathed? The police railroaded this poor girl. How cruel.
Why was a child who often threw himself backwards hitting his head be around a tiled floor? He should've been around mats like they have in a gym.
Right??? Wtf
Literally on my way to get my 13 month old from daycare. Dr. Grande is making me paranoid 😢
I hate that police are allowed to lie to you in interrogation. I actually believe the girl is innocent and after being worn down by police in a 10 hour long interrogation, being lied to that they had doctors claiming this and that, she probably told the police what they wanted to hear. She has a lower IQ. No evidence that she's violent or impatient with children she's worked with in the past. This seems like the cops really wanted to make charges stick and the prosecution really wanted a conviction here. Given the baby would throw himself and hit his head on the floor enough to make golf ball size injuries to the back of his head, I just don't believe her confession was true. Very sad indeed. Poor little boy. My condolences to his family.
I agree with you 100%!! Ten hours is practically torture, especially for a young woman like herself. I think many people don't know what happens during a ten hour interrogation. She was probably left alone for hours without access to her family or trusted friends. No doubt she was scared, upset, tired, and simply wanted to go home. SMH
I agree with Dr Grande's take on this one.
People rightfully have a hard time understanding how false confessions occur, but they are much more common than we'd like to admit. This is such a sad case.
This is crazy! I don’t think she did it!
This poor baby should have stayed at home, in a safe environment with thick carpets and with his mother by his side 24/7. NOT TO MENTION this unusual behaviour of throwing himself back was probably a simptom of a neurological condition or another ilness and, his parents should've tried to get to the bottom of this instead of unloading him off at the daycare...
I have to say this regardless of the hate I receive. For me, there are many sad things about this case apart from Ben's death. For me, the saddest thing is that for all but the first 9 WEEKS of his short life, he lived more of his time in daycare than at home or with his parents. When my oldest son was 17 months old, and he'll be 42 bext week, the whole out of home care system was just starting and the "Early Childhood Centres" had many of us young mums thinking that this was better than our kids staying home with Grandma or other family centred care. The thing I still remember is him standing at the door while I walked away, leaving him calling out "Mummy, MUMMY" while I turned my back and walked away. He eventually didn't cry anymore just like a beat up dog with no fight left in it, but I was to make the same mistake again a few years later, the same BS from a society that endeavoured to create places where kids would NOT be raised by parents but by businesses or the state. My middle son was turning 2 that very day and I dumped him in a place he knew no one, and he ran about in a panic, looking for ways out so he could find his mother! I KNOW this because the staff, so thoughtfully, took photos of him screaming in terror while he ran everywhere, searching and yelling for me. Eventually, he fell asleep, broken, and I thought that it was a great idea to dump him on people who could NEVER provide the love and care that his grandparents did or myself or my husband so he couldspendsometimewithhis"new friend"! ! I had 5 kids, I went to Uni to get a degree, I worked nights to study, I got an academic scholarship, I went overseas to open a store in the Asia Pacific region for a large global food chain, changed careers and became an RN, I loved my work but as an almost 60 year old Grandma who is now disabled and hasn't been able to work for several years, there is only one wish I have now and that's more time with my children. It's all true just how quickly time passes and I am left with memories very like the ones I just shared and if I could go through life again I'd treasure my role, and the privilege, of being a stay home mum! I don't know if this young woman, who is my eldest daughter's age, intentionally threw the little baby to the ground and killed him. But I do know he wasn't happy or thriving where he was because, nice as they might have been, nobody there loved him and thats THE most important thing for a baby! Thanks for reading.
I think you're 100% right and people never realise what they will miss the most until years down the road when that time has passed.
I'm not convinced.
Not looking for justice- just looking for a confession. So how do we stop people with that mindset from becoming police and prosecutors? Melissa had a long history of working with others, and many years in childcare. The description of her temperament makes it hard for me to believe she suddenly became violent with this toddler. I hope she gets a new trial!
A lot of towns and cities in Illinois and Missouri are pronounced very oddly, especially the French names.
I don’t believe she did it
The police should not be allowed to badger anyone until they "confess". That is not justice and it only works on people who have no power.
It would be terrible if she got away with murder, but it would be worse if she was put away till she was 53 even though she did nothing.
Always enjoy a video from Dr. Grande! I've been here since before 100K followers. Awesome job, Dr. G! 😀
I remember this , i remember seeing parts of the interview , imo the police bullied her and she made a false confession , she obviously isnt too bright , she was interviewed for hours and hours , they kept coming back with fake experts to deny what she was saying , she was then coerced into confessing imo , The poor lad obviously had a habit of throwing his head back and had already been ill , had he thrown his head back on that day i believe it was the last straw , his skull couldnt take anymore.
I dont believe there is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that she threw him on the floor, you dont just do it , there would have been evidence of her getting frustrated with children long before this and it would have built up to something like this.
There is a slight case for her suddenly snapping and doing it , but based on the evidence , her confession should have been looked at , taking into consideration her lack of intellect and the amount of time the police kept her there, its been proven before that people have given false confessions in these situations ,, for me the fact he had a habit of throwing his head back , enough to give a huge lump on the back of his head trumps anything the prosecution can give as evidence , her defence probably didnt do enough.
Classic case of Police bullying to get a confession, and a weak defence against a prosecution intent on winning , and imo its a huge problem in justice, Defence and Prosecution arent interested in truth or justice , they are only interested in winning , and will often use "experts" and arguments to win.
im 70% she is innocent.
Beyond sad.
For info, Lincolnshire in England is a county, not a town. The county town (most important) of Lincolnshire is the city of Lincoln, after which the county is named.
I’m very close in a village just outside city of Lincoln.
Exciting to hear Dr Grande say my home’s name!!!!
Thankyou! I'm in Derbyshire.
@@richinderbyshire4779 nice there 🙌🏼
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Derby born and bred, and thick in the head as they say in Nottingham
@@dee2973 Yeah, cos folk from Notts have all the brains...!
This is exactly why any good attorney will tell people to NEVER talk to the police and always contact a lawyer.
Just like Bruce rivers, he's a criminal lawyer. What he do, you ask? He gonna react to all the self snitchin, uh.
@@rockyevans1584 Well, basically she self-snitched big time and likely they wouldn't have had enough evidence to convict her if she would have just kept her mouth shut.
@@Ryan_DeWitt well, with an IQ of 82, she's not exactly a genius..
I don't know, based on the defense she got, she was screwed either way.
I would think that someone with high agreeableness and low intelligence would break and confess (falsely or truthfully) much sooner than 9 hours under virtual duress. I'll have to agree, this is a tough one in reality. Easy not guilty in terms of reasonable doubt.
This daycare facility did not have cameras?? I thought that was mandatory.. They should be.
I am guessing she is still in prison. Those parents obviously will never have gotten their baby back. He must have been in real pain. A real tragedy.
The problem is many cannot afford to have a lawyer present and often public defenders seem to be working for the state. 20 years ago, I was arrested for a misdemeanor which I was completely innocent of. Despite a public defender actually believing me, she pushed me into signing a plea deal with the threat that if I didn’t, I could spend up to a year in jail, waiting for trial. I’m ashamed to say I took the deal because I was younger and scared. Today I never would. The only solution I can think of is to make the state pay for an outside lawyer of the defendants own choosing.
The large majority of cases are settled with plea deals.
How long did you go to jail or did the plea get you out of it?
So sorry 😞
There are every day “ accidentd”
that happen in Daycare Centres…
..especially among Infants and Toddlers… and even in the Pre-School side/area… Daycare staff
MUST be extra careful and observant!!! The kids are THAT
super active and in a mere second
… boom! accidents occur…
Ratio of kids must be 1 staff per 8
kids… Cameras are a must
And the elephant in the room is this young ladies sub-par iq put her at risk handling children. There needs to be medical certification physical and mental for day care workers.
Dr. Grande, could you please analyze the case of Bossman Jack?
Day 80 of asking 😮💨😮💨😮💨
Both my younger brothers were headbangers. The oldest would take a running start when he was frustrated amd slam.ed n8s head ...jead butted the stucco wall in our very long living room. How on earth he sirvived thatt Ill never know. He did this to HIMSELF we had a maid busy dping the housework no adult around I would see him as I was coming down the stairs...many times. Then my youngest brother banged his head into the headboard of his crib...I guess frustrated he was in there.
I would pick him up amd cary him around. I have since read that head banging behavior is more common in boys.
By the way your spelling is, it seems like you’ve suffered a few head injuries yourself. Just saying 😂
disgusting. I saw a one-act play years ago that depicted just this sort of thing, where the cops bullied a victim and repeated the same questions until the suspect was mentally broken down. whether he signed the confession isn't depicted. It was obviously a statement against police abuse. Still happening
Great dedication to detail re: Lincolnshire pronunciation...Dr.Grande #1 ❤️
Our child is heading into daycare soon...thanks for this one Dr. G 😅
That's a very sad case. I feel like they wore her down and she just wanted to go home to get away from them, so she confessed to something she may not have done.
They started daycare at 9weeks????
6 weeks
@@abigail7579 unbelievably sad
@ocin7917 for some ppl they need to work out of necessity, who knows
When I was a new mother and a teacher we were allowed 6 weeks and it was taken from our accumulated sick days. It just about killed me as we couldn't afford for me to stay home .
Dr Grande I appreciate how you deliver these wild stories in such a calm tone
It’s sad that too many in law enforcement aren’t looking for Justice, ruining lives is a crime 😢😢😢The guilty go free and the disadvantaged get jailed,,, sadists in the world have us all dazed & confused😢😢😢
From the legislative and executive branches to the judicial system, this country needs an entire overhaul. People who work within the system like to say that it works, but it obviously fails all too often. Too much pride at stake and too little patience for people to really care whether they are doing their jobs accurately.
I feel bad for her
Thank you, Dr. Grande. This one seems questionabĺe, to me.
I hope she gets a retrial , and when she's found not guilty, reserves compensation for at the least wrongful imprisonment , . I pray she gets a retrial.
Oh man! This one is tough. Poor lil guy😢Poor Melissa also. If it was a cop shutting off his bodycam and hurt or ended someone they would have investigated themselves and find nothing wrong.
Terrible. If I was in the jury I think her other baby sitting experience showed her to be innocent to me. I hate when the cops do this.
Please look at the case of Bibi Lee, UC Berkeley college student, murdered in 1984. She deserves to be remembered. Thank you!❤
Hi Dr Grande. I really like your content. I watched hundreds of your videos and I recommended your channel to many friends. Always super interesting.
Thank you again Dr. Grande 🙏
RIP sweet baby.
I don’t think I have the stomach to watch this. Moving along…
Thank you, Dr.Grande!
Thank you Dr. Grande for your thoughtful analysis of this case. This is really a sad case for everyone except the police. Have a restful weekend Dr. Grande!!😇💕from Jean.
The cops that interviewed her knew what they were doing.They knew she was slow and and they would get him a big fat bonus.If they solve that case fast.
It’s actually pronounced Lincoln shYer. Went to high school in that town.