Magnet motor, free energy, overunity test 2
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- This is design #2. This will technically be an overunity motor if I can get the electromagnet built to the right specs. When this is done, I'd like to start on plans for a battery powered car that gets a full overnight charge from a standard 18v drill battery. Charge your drill battery during the day and use it to charge your car at night. But that's a long way down the road.....PUN IN-TENDED!
Damnit...I'm on the magnet side of UA-cam. I can't find the exit....
+ByteMe I see you on every video on youtube
NdM Music That's what everyone says lol
+ByteMe im attracted to every video on magnets atm
Guess you could say that you're. .... ATTRACTED. hahaha
MarquisProdz Well done m8.
You can get free energy, absolutely, and here's how:
1. Make a video of something catchy... could be about a perpetual motion machine, or a naked girl, or a cute kitty... doesn't have to be witty, it could be about the Flat Earth nonsense. Just whatever will get people to click on it
2. Monetize the video on UA-cam, ie. businesses advertize on your video
3. Use the money to pay your electric, gas bills, or buy gas for your car... free energy!
This does not defy physics since the source of the money is fools (limitless, never-ending, self-reproducing) who submit to watching the ads and go buy the advertized crap.
Correct
+Pappy Fiddle Right on, Bro.
correct
Technically not "free" because you still have to pay for it
you gave this man a view...
To much talking. :/
Filatuss for nothing. It's just another fake video ...
Filatuss ...and too little understanding of elementary physics.
^ Bingo.
Mike Adams Yeah, sometimes I'm embarrassed at these early videos. But it was what inspired me to really dig into studying. Now, I silently shake my head at people with as little understanding as I had then. Oh well.
jzsd14me Well, if you learned from it and progressed that's a productive and beneficial outcome. No need to be the least bit embarrassed or ashamed for not having learned the fundamentals of Physics earlier on.
You eventually learned and are much better off for it. I was lucky to learn Physics in high school and college. Plenty of students never received any education in the physical sciences whatsoever as one can clearly glean from the comments posted.
I've been brainstorming about a machine very similar to this a lot lately! This is a brilliant idea and if you had a small motor to flip your magnet back and forth in the place of your hand it seems like it could really get up to a good speed. And then have a small drive axle turning an alternator which would theoretically start producing power. And hopefully it would create more power than what is required to flip your magnet back and forth!
The flipping of the magnet kosts more energy than you could get from the spin. Instead of flipping the magnet you also could spin the thing. Same with an electro magnet that alternates its magnetic field. You need energy for that thats creater than the spinning could produce.
This is essentially how electric motors work...
Overunity test 1: fail
Overunity test 2: fail
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Overunity test [biggest number]: fail
+thedoctorzeus theres not a biggest number :P
+thedoctorzeus Maybe he's talking about over unity heat generation and power usage !!!! ;-)
Congratz on inventing the electric motor...
lol
that was my thought too. it's a complicated version of an electric motor that doesn't work...
Why do electric motors need fuel then?. _.
corgidog quirke
electric motors need electricity to create a magnetic field. In this case the fuel is the guy himself switching the magnet. So for that reason alone this is not "free energy". There is no such thing as "free energy" because of physics.
+corgidog quirke Because they are losing energy.And this is why this free energy bullshit will not work.
I have the design you want. It involves a similar set up, but hybridized with the perpetual motion wheel that uses liquid or weights that move. If you've seen the basic bicycle wheel with half full water bottle model on UA-cam, you know the similarity. instead of normal weights, you need magnets, that move from their ready position to the outer edge by way of an external magnet. The trick is; use a weak magnet(s) to keep the weights near the center, and a strong magnet to draw them to the edge. with a little momentum, they should be drawn outward then start to retract once they pass the external magnet (s). You could maybe even use magnetic fluid. eh?
Wild guess here: You've never taken a course in elementary physics, have you? I suggest you audit a course at your local university or community college. Or you can just watch the lectures online. One of the first concepts they will introduce you to is "conservation of energy." It's one of the foundations of every branch of physics. Please familiarize yourself with it, before you embarrass yourself any further.
The minute you started talking about using an electromagnet and changing the polarity, I smiled.. Because that's basically just a standard electric motor!!! LOL!
How about making all the poles repel on the motor?If you add electricity all you're doing is making a crude electric motor.
my thoughts exactly.If they repelled all around the wheel would spin non stop, no electricity needed
Aye, needs testing.
Scott Lee
No, do you actually believe that? Every force creates a counter force of equal strenght. Nothing would happen. Just like you can't lift yourself off the ground by grabbing your hair.
duh, you aren't understanding what I'm saying
In magnets(or gravity for that matter) opposite poles attract,like poles repel.
This still requires energy. You move your hand in order to flip the magnet, thus meaning you have to burn carbs in your body in order to get your muscles to move.
Imagine attempting to use this on a large scale, how would you flip the magnet?
A. If your answer was a motor... how would you power that one? (this is a circular problem, which can't be
solved)
B. If your answer was a fluctuating magnetic current... then you just invented the electric motor. (which uses more electricity than it creates)
Please, you watching, understand this: Free energy will never ever exist in the form of perpetual moving motor.
All those magnet contraptions are only "prolonging" the effect of the human muscle that inflicts the spin. they'll stop, every time, even in space (void), and there's nothing you can do about it (friction, gravity, slow exhaustion of kinetic energy, electron/photon fields).
Kinetic energy has an extremely low impact also, if you build a giant one it'll require an extremely low stopping energy, thus not being capable of extracting more energy than the one inflicted at the beginning.
Please forgive my bad english.
Maybe it would work, if we could somehow reverse time or decrease entropy.
Cheers!
Cheers!
Maybe Elon Musk has team working on it...
i disagree with you, free energy almost exists. why? actually if we can implement this electromagnetic technology in real life on daily basis, we can actually save a great amount of energy or power up to 75-90% on my calculation. But with further research in electromagnetic technology, i believe we can make the most efficient engine or power station ever. scientists just need to work more on the perfect material and better with the calculations because a tiny fault on calculation may resulting a big failure and that will end the research if they dont realize their mistake on researching it
Congratulations.
You've discovered conservation of angular momentum...
Waltham1892 no
RMSVideos Sorry, I'm afraid yes.
The magnets on the edge of the round table don't do anything but add mass.
The thing isn't a generator, but a flywheel retaining the energy used to get is spinning, less what is lost to friction at the bearing.
FuckYouGooglePlus Um, no, that is not the case.
The magnet in his hand is attracting/repulsing the approaching magnets as strongly as its attracting/repulsing the retreating magnets, so the net effect is zero.
FuckYouGooglePlus It would be "the basic concept of a motor" if it produced any motive force.
Which it doesn't.
Because it can't.
Because the underlying premise is nonsense.
You'd think that if perpetual motion machines can be tinkered together by anyone with a fist full of magnets, everyone would have one.
But, as I said, they don't work.
Any questions?
FuckYouGooglePlus The guy has the platform running for a few seconds under no load.
Given that all he's done is build a flywheel, that is exactly what you'd expect to happen.
So, you can fall down on your knees and worship the perpetual motion god's if you like.
I'll just sit here and laugh at you while you do.
you just reinvented how alternating current works
That's called an electric motor...
My thoughts exactly..
an electric motor uses electricity to operate, hence the term "electric." this is not an electric motor since there is no exchange of electrons.
Maybe if you watched the video you'd know that he plans on using an electromagnet to propel the device. That makes it an electric motor.
Law of Conservation of Energy. It's a thing.
John Barron. Really it's a law and thus all current laws of physics are mearly a bubble that we have yet to find either the ____small enough to pass currently unnoticed through the thing holding this field/force the law is part of in place and the ____ of a higher ____ enough to move or disrupt this field/force. Or the equal inverse nutralizing the force that could open the law for manipulation or cause an implosion. Imagine The blanks are the letters.in numbers in algebra class. The fun is caerfully filling the blanks till you see something happen.. Even if you find the amswer already out there when you find one. The excitement of it is valid and the ability to see that others have done the same or similar is the greatest gift of the platforms like youtube gives us all as we can see how things have been expanded on. So you can test what they do and expand on it too.. Also if you see a UFO make sure it is not someone jumping out of a weather balloon flying a stunt jetpack with flares attached doing aerobatics with thier drones.. It happens. usually not in the USA.. Or ahem... O god a UFO I should hide and pay taxes and request an absentee ballot and prepare for 2000 by hording nutrient void food, floridated water, hemp toilet paper, and aluminum foil.
Sorry Guys, Taylor Yarick is right, all the OP has done is recreate an electromagnet motor albeit a mechanical one, it requires energy input to spin the wheel, as soon as you put a 'load' on the wheel like the mini dynamo to drive a light this will put opposing stress on the magnets in this demo and the OP would have to work harder to keep the wheel from stopping. The OP concept of cheaper or free energy is just plain wrong. go to college and study electronics, this will include magnets and coils. you will learn quickly that you cannot create energy and there will ALWAYS be losses during the convertion of motion to electric or visa-versa.
Just a further note, having read some of the dumbass rejections to Talor Yarick post, I believe the 'away with the fairies' TROLLS will now come after me. Before you post - just ask yourself one question, given that we have the technology to put us on the moon and create holo-glasses to control our world with out a keyboard, why-oh-why do people still believe in perpetual motion machines? if it were possible Albert would have invented it. if he helped out to create the a-bomb I'm sure a free energey magnet motor would have been right up his street and a piece of piss to invent.
Guess what?! The energy required to spin the magnet between your thumb and finger is the same amount as it requires to spin the wheel at that speed. Introducing electricity to flip the magnet will be less efficient than brushless motor, which is all you are creating.
Agreed and not to mention slight friction constantly subtracting energy. Friction will always subtract and then adding a mechanism / gear to change the polarity of the magnet constantly over and over again only adds to the friction or energy sucked from whatever energy is powering it (including a magnet).
you dont need a mechanical rotation of the magnet. just have 2 electro-magnets that are wired opposite each other that switch on and off based on position of the rotating disk
***** It's the same, just not THAT obvious for a non technician. Where does the energy for the electro magnet come from? Pole change even costs extra energy.
The rotating bait eliminates the flux issue.. you were spinning it by hand. Very cool
I appreciate projects that are made with the intention of breaking physics; their failures let you know that the current theories are valid.
I don't think this will work, but it's still an interesting video.
Your alternating electromagnet idea is simply reinventing the existing electric motor. Nothing new here. Conservation of energy rules. You cannot make a perpetual motion machine.
At least someone intelligent.
The act of spinning the magnet and holding his arm straight is more energy put into the system than he can possible get out of it.
a device like this could transduce magnatism to kinetic energy which can then be used to power a turbine-style generator. the magnets would eventuallg wear out so it would not be perpetual motion or free energy. you would be spending the magnatism to make electricity
You don't "spend" magnetism. Turbine generators spin a set a stators through a magnetic field. You must put more energy into the system than you get out of it due to losses from friction and heat.
This is not free energy. He is putting energy into the system through his arm holding the magnet, even if he doesn't realize it.
Chris Antcliff Magnets can be used to spin a turbine simply by having the right placement like what he has done here. It is not permanent or free because the magnets eventually wear out. A pair of magnets can be arranged so that one magnet floats above the other. This means that the magnets are outputting enough force to match that of earth's gravitational field. This energy can be transduced into electricity somehow i think.
If you want free energy, buy some solar panels.
even that is not free, you can never get free energy
'free energy, buy'
Snag some solar panels = free. But only for you... shame.
Buy cheap solar cells from China for pennies and build your own solar? Priceless. ;-)
Mathew Boston wow.... -_- you didnt get his point
technically the energy is free generated by the solar panels... the solar panels are not free
so its still a free energy FROM solar panels
Magnetics. Radiant energy... In a weightless realm, magnetics are a source of free, limitless energy. Beyond that, just from running your engine you'd have alternators to recharge every battery source you have. Transformers; uniquely constructed to step the power when and where you want to... Rawlemon orbs? There are many possiblities... and most we won't find out about for many years, since known ones are kept secret as well.
Timothy Bucci More ignorant bullshit.
That finally gave me an idea how to complete my plans for a magnet motor electricity generator...Thanks for you video and discussion.
Go on, race him to the patent office like Bill gates did Paul. Winner take all heh?
its not free energy if it is using an electro magnet because you need to power the magnet with the battery. always look deeper for the true energy source. this is a great concept but using an electro magnet wouldnt count, now if you could come up with a way to utilize the spinning of the disk to flip the magnet manually then that may work, but it also would cause friction so it most likely wouldnt. i appreciate your effort to try to solve the energy problem but free energy just isnt a thing.
its almost infinite
Simple rule: You can't get energy from nothing.
Magnet do not require fuel, but they do supply something that can create energy.
but you have to move the magnet in order for it to generate energy. and moving the magnet requires energy aka fuel
But the energy you put into it is VERY minor. if it is able to build from the energy you put into it then you could call it free energy. But only if it surpasses the amount of energy you put into it.
Felix Stratman Care to elaborate? Saying im wrong isint really getting a point across...
kioti15
fuckyougoogle plus elaborated on why your wrong.
lol do you even science bro?
+Pennyinmouth What in the hell are you asking because your statement is incomplete?
+James Barrett i accidentally your mom. is that bad?
+Pennyinmouth lol can you even make sentence bro
Scatmanfan45
It's a well known format on the internet wherein someone uses a noun as a verb, with the preface "do you even [bro]?" with the bro being optional.
Do you even meme bro? Do you even words bro?
+KingHalbatorix It's well known in the universe that people who use the statements don't really even.
I like the idea of mechanically turning the magnet by the spinning disc. And all of the people that don't think it can be possible, is just that they can't think for themselves. great inventors were considered crazy people until they made it work. Noting is set on stone
Why can't you make all the magnets around the circle to be facing the same pole outward? that way you don't have to do the switching thing.
I was wondering the same thing. It appears he overlooked a very simple solution.
Because the magnets that push it forward would also push it backwards, thus no movement.
It's kind of sad how many videos there are about it.
+tampicokid How about we let him ask questions without ridiculing him? Many great inventions come from misunderstanding and asking questions. ...Instead of beating this person with your keyboard clicks...
magnets dont grow on trees they take electric to make it is fake stop trying
you realize perpetual motion is immpossible right? there is no such things as free energy. All energy comes from somewhere, and it is never truly depleted because it only changes it's form. But perpetual energy is immpossible. if there were perpetual energy the universe would eventually die. If anything the only perpetual energy is the motion of the galaxies moving away from eachother. and that's even debatable because it's not truly perpetual because it has a source and an predictable end.
***** magnets don't last forever, and to make them you must use energy as well. so this entire design is a joke.
***** You Don't Have To Make Magnets. The Earth Is A Giant Magnet It's Self. The Solar System Is Perpetual Motion ( If The Sun Never Explodes )
And that too will end. Even the earth with it's magnetic field will die relatively soon. In less than 400 billion years the universe will come to it' end you know. One of the most fundamental laws is that you can not create somethign from nothing all energy has a source. You can not destroy any matter in the universe, and you can not create matter. same with energy. you may only change it's form.
It's a giant cycle. And it will end only when the universe is torn asunder. after that, All the particles left in the universe will break dwon and then start moving back towards eachother, as gravity overcomes the state of energy that pushes them outwards. it will take billions and billions of years but eventually all the particles will gather again creating a black hole so dense that eventually all that matter and enery will release in, once again, a big bang. restarting the universe.
The point is the solar system isn't perpetual motion, if you start taking energy from that then you will slow it down, it only continues onward because ther eis no friction to apply, if you take energy from it you are basiacally applying friction and slowing it down. plunging the earth into the sun.
I Know What's Perpetual
Your ignorance
Jk :)
Magnets aren't a source of energy. They're like springs. They can only store energy that's been put into them. So you need an external energy source. Like a battery. And then if you get it to work as others have said you will have reinvented the brushless motor. 8^)
If you put two magnets near each other, and one moves, the kinetic energy moving that magnet came from what external source?
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If *_you put_* two magnets near each other, and one moves, the kinetic energy moving that magnet came from what external source?
I've highlighted the answer.
8^)
Not a good idea to have your watch in the vicinity of all those powerful magnets. Enjoyed the video .... very thought provoking. Thank you
The laws of thermodynamics are really not up for interpretation. They don't change because you are philosophically apposed to them. There is no amount of magnets and coils and popsicle sticks, broken toasters and junk from Home Depot that is going to change it. Just because you don't understand doesn't mean your ignorance creates a pathway to bend the laws of physics. Please please please please stop wasting time with this. You seem bright and very good with tools. Create something nice or improve something with your skills. The First Law of Thermodynamics was published around 1850. 165 years we've known you can't get something for nothing. It's the basis of the worlds' industrial complex and why everything that works works and predicts with lovely accuracy what won't work...starting with the steam engine.
2+2=4
People who chase "free energy" don't seem to really understand that 2+2=4. They think if they add more magnets and coils and more magnets and then maybe add a battery but later figure out how to charge it with more coils and a few more magnets they somehow feel that 2+2=5. The very very simple problem is every time you take some energy and convert it to another type of energy you loose some in the conversion, usually in heat. Next you try to convert that energy again to send it back up the hill to start the process over after loosing more energy in the conversion process. You put in 10 units the best you can hope to get back out is 9.9 and the truth with converting to mechanical motion is putting in 10 and getting back 7. We've known this since 1850. 2+2=4 we've known for a much longer time. It's reason why the lights come on when you throw the switch.
In order to change the poles of that magnet on his fingers, he is doing a lot of work. Maybe he should make an electrical device, in order to make that work constanly until his smartphone battery is full. Using his fingers to do this, he will have to eat a lot.
It always seems that many of these projects end up with a battery attached to them and SHAZAM! They've invented an electric motor. Low RPM and low torque low efficiency. My crappy Ikea clock has a motor that will run a pile of gears for a year on a AA battery. one fiftieth the size, Two hundred times the torque. It's even more sad when the ones who've been chasing this pipe dream in public start to hide power supplies in frustration. Those are the most obvious. My favorite ones, however, are the guys who are poking fun at these poor fools.
Kris Alutius lol all those laws .. its your religion ... the same like when people used to believe that the Earth is flat ... you are the same .. it seems to me that today scientist don't know why the electron is orbiting the nucleus , they don't know in 21th century how to count the circumference over 2000 years using Pi and our idiotic decimal math system, and all science today is based on observation ... not on understanding ...
until they will able to explain ,how and why the electron is orbiting nucleus , keep your statements away ..you are not the one who will change this planet man :D.. you are to much enslaved and addicted ... and btw ... we can't create something out of nothing? this sentence is always used by people like you who don't understand anything ... if you will know what the energy really is ,then you can't say something like this ... just a small advice ... energy doesn't exists ..energy is nothing more than a word and expression for something else ...
A comment to the conspiracy theorists: These conspiracies are typically nation-centric, or at most Western-world centric, where oil companies are behemoths and theoretically could engage in the kind of mischief being alleged. But one needs only one good counter example to put the conspiracies to rest: India. India has very very little oil and there are no all-powerful energy companies in India - in fact, India's spend on oil is all money leaving their economy and so the rich and powerful there have every incentive to develop free power if such was do-able, and they do have a lot of scientists and engineers, and are a major player in commercial satellite launches with few errors. And also please note that no nation outside of India has any influence on India, except perhaps the USA has just a tiny bit, but very tiny, as evidenced by India frequently voting oppositionaly to the USA in the United Nations. Non-Indians can't own land in India, own more than 49% of a company, or adopt Indian babies/children. India is for Indians only, but all are welcome to visit and spend tourist dollars. India can and does rip off Western world patents, though they keep that at a minimum. And as India is energy deficient, and no energy companies have power there, and she has lots of physicists, scientists and engineers and mathmaticians, if free-energy was possible I think we would see it deployed in India.
Good points! Too bad you had to write all that, since I assume you realize that if free energy were available in the U.S., the government would want it BADLY. All nations would want to have it first.
Sorry for the hijack rh001YT, not directing my comments at you.
Dan Stadden Think further than that. If free energy was a thing, money wouldn't exist. We would all be infinitely rich, since we would have the ressources to build planets for each individual that ask for it, we could simply make a ton of those devices, use the energy produced to make more and more and so on, until you arrive at a point where, by simple energy/mass conversion you would be able to create anything.
I don't see anyone making obstruction to this... I mean, everyone could be a god and make his own planet if he's not happy with the others being his equals.
Something that struck me one day many years ago.. if perpetual motion were possible, you could feed the output back to the input and you'd have yourself a black hole.
Osmosis LOL, and probably true.
Hello
I don't think these people understand physics
well its "possible" to have free energy or limitless energy.
the problem is that in order to have a system like this you need constant power to keep things going, meaning you both need a power well (so it never runs out of energy) and a greater power production than consumption.
Thekilleroftanks no your first sentence is false
not really.
anything in science can and must be possible.
because if we cant have limitless energy or free energy, then you must prove its impossible by running test to prove EVERY single model is wrong...
that is a lot of testing.
Thekilleroftanks that's not the way either physics or the burden of proof works sir.
If you make statement A. You have to prove statement A.
If I say statement A. Is not possible, all I have to do is show why.
As for the infinite power thing, that wheel he has there is being spun up or pushed by that magnet he is holding, every ounce of power it has was given it by that magnet. Every ounce of power taken out of the system for generating electricity will take away from that, as will friction air resistance etc.
He's inputting X energy into the system.
He's outputting Y energy from the system.
So long as he's putting in more than he is taking out the wheel will continue to spin. There's nothing free about it
Actually, if you claim that you can have limitless or free energy you have to prove your claim. Otherwise it has no value.
I hope you actually read this. When I was a kid, our "uncle" who was an engineer, gave me a motor kit. It was a DC motor, I had to wind the arbors by hand. It had these brass plates called commutators. After it actually worked, It was evident how it worked. The commutators changed the polarity of the arbors, so that in one spot the arbors were attracted, then they were reversed and repelled. just exactly what you are attempting to do.
provided you do not use any outside electricity, you are on the verge of making that perpetual motion machine. The trick then is to get it to do something, like generate electricity for outside use. When you do that though, you will add stress to the system more than the system can take, and it will collapse. ie. not work.
Even if you make a very well balanced mechanism to flip the one magnet over and back, the energy to do the flip must come from someplace. If it comes from your little magnet motor, it will kill the motor.
Still... pretty cool how you got it to work.
Pass the magnets between copper coils to generate electricity? Have fun with it.
This is easy. Basically you need the circle of magnets to tell the arm when to switch polarity in advance of its coming, to compensate for the time it takes for the arm to rotate and be in place for the next reverse pole magnet arriving in line. In other words, you should create a mechanical spring switch. The switch should be as simple as possible, by engraving an etch under the plexiglass just a few fractions before the perpendicular (straight) magnets that signify a polarity switch. This will click a spring in the arm of the magnet you now currently hold by hand to switch it in harmony and unison. More importantly, the arm shouldn't switch back and forth, because the flip flop of the arm will become a problem due to the drag of inertia once the spinning magnets reach terminal velocity. Instead, make it spin freely but barely lock in place with a wristwatch type of nick and continue its rotation in the next polarity. Eventually, at high speed the circle of magnets and the arm will sync rotation in unison, and this is why the clicking needs to dislodge after a certain speed, which is essentially the terminal velocity of the rotating arm itself. If you like this, give me credit. That said, why do you need to have the circle of magnets switching polarity? Why can't they be all continuous? Have you tried that? Maybe in slightly different angles? Adding more magnets and playing around with the distances? Important to note is that you can even utilize ambient energy, already being used, to propel changes in the arm. If such device is near water sources and wind and sun, it could reach an unbelievable combined efficiency with regard to output.
you are ignoring an input energy source. your HAND turning the magnet. the same would apply your electromagnet. it would run as long as the battery flipping the polarity had power. once it died. the device would stop.
Nerys and you ignored what he said. he said if he could find out a way to rotate it it will be helpful. all he asked your suggestions. seems you people are paid to shout here on someone who is USING FREE word.
QaziHussain did not ignore. whether his hand does it or some gizmo does it. it needs energy to do it.
what is "using free word" ??
Pretty sure those first 4 magnets required no input from his hand besides actually placing the magnet in that position... He only needs to turn the magnet once in order to get momentum from 4 magnets. I'm not saying this is legit, but if someone could calculate the amount of kinetic energy created by the magnets alone, and compare it to how much energy it would take to switch the pole, the results may or may not be surprising. If we found out we were getting more energy, then the device could simply power its self.
I'm gonna be optimistic with this until I see a test like that done.
+stuff guy It's not just a matter of switching the pole, having an electromagnet being on at all consumes electricity. There's no real way for this to produce more energy, and one other thing that people are ignoring is that magnets actually induce drag on things. They interact slightly with the earth's magnetic field (it's a property that is used to orient satellites) and that represents a loss of efficiency.
+stuff guy
Placing the magnet in that position IS the input, and required energy. It's like a spring. Placing the magnets close together (so close that they will repell when released) requires energy. The device will never be able to power itself, this is a fundamental problem, it won't matter how brilliantly the device is made or what kind of system he uses. The output generated by 1 cycle will not be enough to put the magnets close together again for another release.
You can give it a spin, and then it will lose energy every cycle, until it stops turning. There is no solution. This is not limited by our technological capabilities, but by fundamental laws of nature.
Jzsd14m , you must calculate how much energy is given to the system by means of rotating magnet at your hand. Since rotating the magnet at your hand needs energy, the rotational energy you obtained in the system maybe equal to rotational energy you give to magnet at your hand. Therefore zero energy is a result and what you are doing maybe never usefull.
But if we put a weight on the rotating system , than we can understand real rotation speed.
Erdal Abayli torque conversion will allow it to spin fast will less draw
Erdal Abayli Don't waist your time m8 ;) these people don't understand anything about physics. its like you said the input energy will always be greater than the output due to loss of heat (yes the magnets will always heat up by a tiny amount which uses up energy that doesn't convert to kinetic energy) and that still leaves friction which also converts to heat. Its a simple law of nature.
The69Stalker If you use an electromagnet, it will simply be a normal electric motor. No different than the one in a toy car or vacuum cleaner.
@@Serdar_Kaskan Magnetic "Energy" doesn't exist.. Its a force so it doesn't do anything until you put energy in to it.. Thats your mistake 😉
I like this vid. The less friction a wheel has and the lighter it is, obviously the longer it will turn without stopping. Yet, I notice many people keep talking about input as if a wheel was heavier and the didn't have the ball bearings for example to reduce friction, they think the same amount of energy it will take to turn both of them.
you are really on to something but i bet that it takes less energy to spin that wheel than to twist the magnet and also if you put a little more weight on the wheel it would act more like a flywheel and maintain motion if you had some kind of gear system or something to twist the magnet at the right times, i think we hit the jackpot.
Don't be stupid, you think nobody ever thought of that before? Doesn't work.
rstevewarmorycom im sorry since when did you become the king of assholes all of the sudden? energy cannot be made or destroyed magnetic energy is a source that is tricky to master but with it and without a doubt in my mind could potentially make a perpetual motion machine people have tried and failed a lot of things a lot of times before it ever worked so shove your brainless head up your ass and leave us innovators to think in peace you non contributing fuck
***** No, I'm a physicist, and that's the stupidest pile of misunderstood crap I've ever heard. And if you keep cussing it won't help you at all. It doesn't convince and makes you look stupid. Whether some things worked after people figured them out has nothing to do with why this won't.
rstevewarmorycom i would live to see your phd in total bullshit magnetic energy is i being lost but one just sitting on a shelf not doing anything i believe it could work if you get the right minds and resources together its really far fetched but its possible and i dont care if you are a physicist that just means you are closed minded gravity engines are complete bullshit but there is still hope for magnets so i hope your non contributing field of study makes you happy if you dont like this side of youtube then leave
This is the moron district of UA-cam, and the people who believe in this crap are complete morons. You build one or a dozen, and when they don't work remember what I told you about yourself and that you just proved it to yourself. You see, what you don't get is that I don't matter, reality matters, and it's completely against you and ready to prove to you that you're a moron. If you had a brain you'd accept the clues you have been given here by people who know, but of course you won't, which is why you're a moron.
why don't you have all the magnets on the wheel all south or north poles so you don't have to change polarity?
Try it out and you will see why... If all the magnets are the same, the contraption won't spin. I built something very similar a few years ago, it was pretty fun
Adam S because changing the poles adds energy into the system and makes it work. It would remain stationary if he didn't move the magnet in his hand.
What if you keep the south poles where they are and elevate the north poles on the disc so that you wont have to chenge polarity's, keep the same set up but have the alternating polarity on two different story levels on the same disk.
syscocar You are on to something there my friend!!
How about using one side of the disc for one polarity and the other side for the other? That was my first thought...
So if you use an electromagnet operated with a battery where's the "free energy" come into play?
The Shovster instead of an electromagnet he should try a rotating magnet. almost like two of these wheels next to each other but the second wheel that's taking the place of the electromagnet would have less magnetics
Seems like everyone here took a high school physics class and is ready to critique everything they see on the Internet. Use your imagination guys.
He never said he was creating energy. He said it was free. Do you go to sleep dead tired everyday? No. Why? Because you didn't use all the energy you put into your body. That's why you're fat. That's where there "free" energy comes from. He's moving the magnet, he using his energy that he wasn't gunna use anyways to move the magnet back and forth.
On a larger scale, you just need more people to do it. "How are you gunna get people to flip a magnet that fast?" I don't know. Use your imagination. Invent something. Don't be so sour.
Great video, didn't think you talked too much.
Nikola Tesla knew this would not work 145 years ago .
why not build a second wheel of magnets and have them spin off one another
then then poles could be switched and pushed equaly
Be right back, gotta do this
Rey Rosado let me know if it works.
I mean if u made it where the gears don't jump and like three of them in a triangle but you'd have to slow it down. And switched it out with electromagnets to change polarities on a switch and then hooked it to a bigger gear that does the same thing and just keep going larger you could like invent an impact starter for a perpetual turbine but I'm sorry you don't when anything unless it actually creates energy so maybe burn it?
So you're gonna get "free energy" from using energy in an "Electro"magnet and you want it to expend even more energy by swapping polars. it's not gonna fly mate.
lol, such a simple problem, I wonder why the physicist didn't think of it. *sarcasm*
I thumbed up twice! :)
thank you for being cool. for improving the magnet fan idea...cause it wouldnt work before. im grateful for your optimism.
Use two wheels with magnets in stead one, This way you will have magnetic pole change, when they spin.
That sounds like it will work, but it will not. N-S still averages zero.
Cotronixco hmm... small wheel with one magnet from hand?
extrasupermorgen No arrangement of fixed magnets can produce energy. North is always the same strength as South. They cancel each other out regardless of the arrangement. The only possibility requires alternating poles, which requires energy. You will always find that the output is less than the input. These people post these videos only to get as many views as possible.
Cotronixco
you say north is always the same strength as south, but strength is strength, surely there is a way to convert the force of two strong magnets repelling into energy?
***** No, not possible. Let's say you push on the back of a car and another person pushes equally on the front. Relative to each other, your forces are always identical - but equal and opposite. No energy can possibly be harnessed from it.
But you know electromagnets require energy...
And has an efficiency (of what he will achieve) of about 1%, meaning his drive would need to generate a fu*kton more than 100% (which would be the threshold for using the term free energy)
So, why don't you just make them all north facing out? Wouldn't that make it a continuous spin?
That'd be stagnant & stationary because there's no graduation of force
***** Ohh I see, thanks for replying.
There is a graduation of force because each new repellent kick being given by the stator magnet to the flywheel magnet is adding joules to the spinning rotor flywheel thus increasing its potential energy (PE).@@TheDmansDad
Its a start. You really only need a couple magnets for that. For less friction drill a hole in the center of a disk shaped magnet that your ball bearings will snugly fit into. Then put a round magnet on the top and bottom of the axel the bearing sits on to make it hover between the top and bottom magnet. also the axel can be a magnet that in the setup I just mentioned can be narrower than the bearings making them irrelivant if you can achieve the balance to keep things together as the speed of spin increases.. You are aware of how a alternating current switch traces the letter "c" shape. Do you know about swiss clocks run by air pressure and how the coil in the clock is attached to racheted gears. one ratcheted to only turn with the movement of the coil tightening..., and one gear racheted to turn as the coil is expanding due to effect on the metal coil from pressure changes in air. When that small movement is geared up and then fly wheels attached and magnets carefully are added into that scenario and this balanced well into center of something like your device perhaps (geared or free spinning gyroscopes) are added you may find a bit of joy in it to say the least.
So if you want to see this plastic plate running just go to 5:42
you have to wait along time while he rambles about God knows what
The mathematics I learned getting my degree in Electrical Engineering shows this will not work. This will use energy, not create it.
So much fail in the comment section.
So much fail in concept understanding of Lenz's Law and counter electromotive forces.
Theres a reason none of these work. BECAUSE THEY CANT.
No need to go to Lenz's law, it's the basic of thermodynamics :D
Ildarioon Thats actually not the problem.
JgHaverty Yes it is. The first law of thermodynamics states that free energy isn't possible. The second law states that this process can ONLY make energy losses.
Ildarioon Your point? That has nothing to do with what I was discussing, at all...
JgHaverty "Theres a reason none of these work. BECAUSE THEY CANT. "
They can't because of the two first rules of thermodynamics. Even lenz's law is a consequence of those two first laws.
That's amazing dude! That can power a small alternator that supplies power for a mechanical hand that switches the polarity for you at perfect times creating a motor that runs on self made electricity!!!
Not possible
Too much force required to be able to move any mechanical parts, the only reason the wheel even turned us because of the minimal frictions.
I think so
make a machinisn like gears which can switch the magenet with the help of rototation of the plate
What they be saying?
Sad that some grown adults actually believe that perpetual motion machines are plausible let alone possible.
Also sad to see how many people think magnetism, a force, is "energy."
*****
It's ironic that you would reference the dark ages. The fact is, technology has advanced far faster than our ability to educate the masses (which is unavoidable, that's the whole point of specialized knowledge). The result is that people such as yourself treat technology like magic, and think that anything is possible. Free energy is not possible. Electrical engineers and physicists want it as much as you, they just happen to be aware that it doesn't exist.
WTF dude, you are putting in work in the system everytime you turn the magnet in your hand.
when people fail at physicks
This is totally HS Science class ready. If I were teaching HS Sc, I would absolutely use this.
Excellent!
Perfecto'
Super-nice job!!
Connect the rotor to a gear system so it can reverse the polarity of the stationary magnet.
He is rotating the disk by inputting energy with his hand motion (rotating the stationary magnet) .. since there are friction losses it can never be Over-Unity. Balls can't bounce higher than the height dropped from, and magnet disks can not make free energy. Why do people pursue such nonsense, lack of education? lack of intelligence? ... or could it be You Tube views & Google Adsense click money? (obvious answer there dudes).
foxkart61 some people just think it's fun, and have had these ideas for a long time and want to try them for themselves. we all know it's physically impossible, but sometimes it's just fun to experiment and tinker with stuff.
foxkart61 So essentially we should just stop trying simply because we don't think it's possible? If everyone did that we would still be killing wild animals with bows and arrows. While they may not achieve the goal they are working towards, that doesn't mean they won't discover anything down the road.
***** I think it is quite sad that you think anything is impossible - especially something that so many people have already just about perfected on black and white.
christopher heunes No. Just no. There can't be any such thing as a perpetual motion machine. Thermodynamics is rock-solid. There are things that aren't possible, because physics just doesn't work that way.
Bruh the bullshit horn is going off in the backround
The amount of energy needed to time and rotate that outside magnet would be far greater than produced by the machine.
I have an idea how to make the stimulan magnet can rotate it's pole exactly (a quarter of plate) , to make the round plate of magnet rotating forever.
Your using your kinetic energy to rotate the magnet in your hands
+jack ward you are a dumb one arent you
+Ilukegood twelvies
+Ilukegood whats dumb about that
So this is a five year old video and I'm guessing you still haven't made this work?
you'll need energy for switching the polarity
> not realizing you're Maxwell's demon
Free energy or not (I don't believe it, but I don't want to start a debate), that's still a pretty neat motor.
+Alex C Obviously you can't get free energy, along with perpetum mobile this would completely go against physics
deezebee2
... I know. I just didn't want to say it in the comments section of a video about free energy.
Alex C Yes, I genuinely don't understand these retards who believe in this shit.
+Jacob Withrealmusic
well since you seem to know more about reality. do you think Einsteins theories were too easily accepted and the many other scientists including nicola tesla were correct in their ideas about the Aether and some particles exceeding the speed of light?
If so please provide some background or sources of your information.
This guy hahaha, the way your brain was molded?? My brain wasn't molded. If I'm wrong, I don't let it stay like a deformity in a piece of plastic. I correct it, and just because you don't understand physics, does not mean physics is wrong hahah because you want free energy. Ever heard of this? Conservation of energy?? Clearly you don't know that quantum physics is way more crazy than relativity, and they aren't yet unified into one theory... The very big and the very small. Get off of free energy, and learn a thing or 2.
This is a clever idea. So why so many dislikes?
Because it doesn't produce energy... it consumes it. This is an electrical motor, not a new invention whatsoever.
It's like me carving a circle and saying I'm working on a new invention, the wheel.
It still looks cool...
James Mitchell Looks can be deceiving..
*****'can' not 'are'
James Mitchell Because this is absolute bullshit.
People have tried things like this soooooooo many times. IF you are going to get 'over-unity'(I hate that word) it isn't going to be with magnets and weights. IF you could get it to work (which all of physics says it can't) it will be with something new, something that hasn't been tried hundreds of thousands of times. If this, or anything like it for that matter, worked even slightly, we would all be burning science textbooks and running our cars on little spinning wheels with magnets glued on the sides.
Also "it's basically zero friction" ... Really?....
I can get that done with Maglev instead of bearings. most of you humonz are just too supid to think past your "school" indoctrination and brainwashings.
I had the same idea for years, but gave up on it. The proper 'electro' magnets with 'timing' trip switches cost money. I was wanting it to spin at a high rate of speed which would create 'electricity' in batteries to run a compressor, which would direct 'compressed' air at a high pressure volume against cups to spin the shaft which was free floating within a tube; with magnets 'south against south' so the shaft was in a free floating magnetic chamber; allowing more 'electricity' to be produced. Then once a proto typed worked on a small scale; create a larger one to creating enough electricity to run power a house. "Then the government can eat their electrical bills." The U.S. has one running on a submarine, which has been kept secret for years. A 'small' article came out in an old Popular Science, or Popular Mechanics many years ago, I believe 1990's. I pointed it out to my wife and said: "See they can drive things by electro magnetic power and create all the electricity they need." But to develop and market it to the public would affect all the 'Hydro' companies and the government revenue. Anyway, keep up your experiments. Jim.
add a wheel gear to turn the hammer magnet forward and backward.
The energy it takes to rotate the hammer magnet would cancel out the gain in the armature. Not to mention friction.
Rick Lewis gearing it to work is easier then saying it would not work.. I starts a quad engine with a large rc motor. it was gears to be exact power output at the shaft as a regular starter motor. same thing as a flywheel assembly.. that engine won't turn a direct shaft as the flywheel attaches to but it does when the gear it's turning makes it less work. it's very simple
@dectrone: ¿Qué?
It is not free energy because you use power to turn magnet in your hand.
Nigga ain't no such a thing as free energy
Sure there is free energy... but there is no infinite energy. Those are two different things.
Its Shas "Free energy" implies no work. however Work is the change in kinetic energy, therefore work must be done to obtain energy.
That's work for a mechanical system, here the magnetic forces do no work. The energy of the system is conserved here, there is no free energy.
One of the best concepts I've seen so far.
I think that would work with a partial gear to flip the stationary magnet, (perhaps use four stationary magnets) and also add a flywheel weight to make it strong enough to release pulses of work with the developed kinetic energy.
Learn science.
+PhysicsPolice Common sense works for this one. No quantum mechanics needed.
+PhysicsPolice You should, because as you see, the basic concept does work :)
John Doe
Which basic concept:
1) If you put a magic trick on youtube someone will think it is for real.
2) Some fraction of the population is dumb enough to think that you can make energy by waving magnets around.
+John Doe The basic concept, that magnets move the carousel around, does work. But it's not free energy. It's not over-unity.
PhysicsPolice Nobody said anything about free energy. That motor will work and it will turn round and round like a pretty carousel. A huge amount of energy went into making the magnets, so of course it will never be any form of perpetuum mobile, that is clear. But simply said, with already prepared strong magnets and improved design, this type of motor would work. The only question is, whether the output, that he can achieve out of it is big enough to even matter.
This is how a brushless motor works. This is a motor
"Energy can neither be created or destroyed, it can only be transferred," except on DupeTube, of course.
the energy required to switch the polarity will be more than the energy generated by the machine. congratulations, you made an electric motor.
doesnt look like free energy to me :P then again it doesnt exist anyway XD
Damn you talk.... and talk and talk
+Sunny I know.... took way too long to explain....
You're mechanically doing what an electric motor does electrically.
Thanks for sharing this video. The principle of this permanent magnet motor has been around for a while now and I know its a genuine theory. There are some people who have demonstrated a way to overcome the "gate" problem, either mechanically or electrically.
"almost no friction" but there is. "almost" means nothing in the rules of thermodynamics. if you think this is gonna break those rules then you're kidding yourself. you cannot plug the end of an 8 bank power strip into itself and expect free energy. that can't work. it's not possible. that's the idea all videos claiming "free energy" are based on.
I am sure you want him to stop his work. You are 100% old person that can not learn new this.
Your answer is WRONG
You're wrong!
He intends to make an electric motor to his car! And that's only the beginning.
Please READ & LISTEN!
More overunity BS. It takes more energy to flip the stator magnet than you generate.
Also, even if it worked with no external power input at all, you're forgetting that magnets are not eternal. An "overunity motor" using magnetic fields draws its energy from the magnetic fields in the magnets, which is a limited source of potential energy. The more you use the magnets, the weaker they become as they depolarize. Magnets are BATTERIES in a manner of speaking.
The laws of thermodynamics are laughing at you.
You clearly don't understand the relationship between force applied in a field and potential energy.
hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/pegrav.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_energy
If a magnetic field is providing a force, and the objects position is changing, it is changing potential energy. Since the force was provided by a magnetic field, it is called MAGNETIC potential energy.
Just like gravity. Gravity is a force, but a gravitational force applied on a object such that it changes position gives it GRAVITATIONAL potential energy.
this narrator is painful to listen to
yep I agree makes sense to me I had a similar idea...what you need bring to mind something like a can shaft rotating in time as you mentioned. I thought along the lines of a can shaft type mechanism however trying to avoid moving parts as you know the more moving parts the more thing can go wrong but really gel with you idea mate
The shit don't work.
Perhaps you could mount your external magnet holder with a couple of gears and a cam to flip it in time with the rotation of the motor. There might be too much friction to make it work, but maybe not? If the external magnet was held in place it could be mounted closer to the rotating magnets, improving efficiency.
electroboom, FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER
I'm beginning to understand E=mc2, 'you only get out what you put in' but a flywheel connecting the flipping (hand-held) magnet in position, which would rotate/alternate it at the speed currently supplied by the human, would make the whole thing even more remarkable.
You can use the disc movement to spin the pole direction of the stator with a certain mechanism to make it fully automatic..
the key to free energy will always IMO center around the need for absolute zero friction.
I recently took an interest in methods of harnessing energy from magnetism and gravity. This is an excellent concept and honestly has a ton of potential.
I can't wait to see this when its all finnished and working.
my pipe game is the closest thing on earth to a perpetual motion machine
after 2 weeks of no likes on an attempted joke, you need to delete the comment
It's Merk you're on youtube commenting on people's comments from 2 weeks ago. Wish i had that much free time
why is everyone saying free energy is not possible? As soon as some one comes up with an idea a bunch of losers will jump in with the law of thermodynamics .. Just because we don't have the brains to invent something doesn't mean it's impossible. Whether its a hoax or real he has put some efforts in it,help him by sharing your ideas to improve his work rather than posting negative feedbacks.. Actually the research on free energy or perpetual motion has came up with ideas which we never imagined before and is used one way or the other in machines..There are many things in this universe where the so called "laws" becomes contradictory but we happily accept it.. There is energy all around us ,we just need to convert and use it...
Magnets in motion, circular or linear can be employed to pass there lines of force through wire where it creates electric energy. That electric energy can be retained & built up by batteries or capacitors. Stop thinking of direct physical drives. This tech looks like it's best used to generate electric over long periods of time. Think "trickle" charge, not brute force. Use in plurality to maximize output (s). Oil companies are going to love this tech!! Wish you guys the best ,,,
Great idea! Sorry to say but it already exists. Hybrid vehicles and electric vehicles use this technology. Generally speaking most running a primary and secondary electric motor. The switch you are looking for is called an IGBT (Insulated-Gate Bipolar Transistor). Using 6 of these will make it more efficient. Can be purchased or just go to a wrecking company and harvest one of a hybrid vehicle. Just stumbled across this vid by the way looked interesting :)
Try connecting the magnet that you were holding in your hand and to a small motor to make it spin back and forth. Since you are using the magnets in a north south setting, you can connect copper coils on the outside with something like an iron or aluminum core and plastic or paper to separate from, the core. You can find cheap motors in something like an old cd player that is not working, and if you connect one of the coils to the motor. Note use a diode to cause a 1 way flow and capacitors. If you use it correctly, a capacitor bank of about 100 only takes 1 second to charge and offers a sort of battery bank that if hooked up between the coil and motor. This way the discharge is the motor moving back and forth. And you can connect coils that use the magnetic filed to cause magnetic flux. The way you can measure the pull of a magnet is a cheap jewelers scale, a piece of cardboard and off to the side, in an h formation where one side is on the scale and the other side on something solid. Use a solid metal item like a fork or something and the strength of the magnets can be measured. Tthe reason is that since reality is push to interact, you want your strongest magnets on the pull and the weakest on your push. Example you want your strongest on the n side out, then your weakest on your s side out. This way it forms a kind of egg shape in the magnetic field as it goes around. Now to tell the distance that you can make the coils the way to tell is by a paper clip and moving the magnet to where the edge is just lifting, that will give you a distance, and you can use 1.5 that distance to figure out the thickness of the coils. The egg shape as it moves through the coils it basically causes current, that if done correctly you can harvest the energy off 2 of 3 coils and still have it where you have your little motor rotating the magnet. a/c current.