I’m very indifferent on SCN/Geoff Wilson. But grading is a skill, and you grade as much as he does, you will honestly get better at it. I’ve noticed it myself. Just something to consider
I will say I did dual service first time ever. And 10 ultra modern cards in a row came back 10/10 so it’s not as rare or rigged as everyone thinks. 😂😂😂
My PSA experience has been shaky at best. If he did a true blind sub under a different name (one of his minion employees) I'd buy this reveal as being fully genuine from PSA
Must be nice to know the big man at PSA, cause there is no way if a random person submitted those would have gotten all those 10s. That guy at the end seems super nervous to be on camera.
Now lets do a video of cracking these PSA 10's out of their holders and getting re-graded by just one of us regular Joes.....You'ld be LUCKY to get 2 10's!
PSA does all this talking about innovation like improving the grading process, vaulting, and partnering with selling platforms. The list goes on and on. How about this for an innovation - open more grading sites. There should be at least four different sites broken up by region. More jobs, quicker turnaround times, more people submitting cards. So many positives to doing this.
This grading reveal makes it too obvious that PSA graded his cards very generously knowing his video would be seen by hundreds of thousands of sports card collectors.
I was LMAO,.......... The vault service is a joke. They have no way of contacting them via phone if you have an issue with one of your stored cards. They do not message back as well.
Geoff you need to do a special long investigative episode on the CT scanning that backyard breaks has been doing and others for awhile now. This changes everything!!!
"Who submitted these cards?" Geoff Wilson "Go 2 grades above what they should get so we can take advantage of others that submit, but give them 2 grades less than what they should get"
His submission by mail: He gets approx 20% PSA 10 (near 1/3rd are 8s) His submission in person: He gets approx 80% PSA 10 (no 8s at all?) This is statistically impossible unless favoritism is in play (or blame it on fake human error/judgement). Both submissions had same outlook on cards, pre-screened for high 9-10, both accounting for modern cards only. Sample size is smaller for this reveal but is still incredibly telling. Whether they know same details by mail or inperson, I have seen already 3 instances where statistical improbabilities and unforeseen outliers are evident. I never grade cards for this reason, it is wildly controlled against consumers and foul play is a concern. I am not wholly against grading, but people who act on reason, morale, logic, and common sense should reconsider grading cards.
Jeff let me know next time your sending cards to PSA for grading ,so I can send mine with your to see if I can get as lucky as you with all those 10z😂😂😂
Geoff, well done. I am in the minority here: Once you submit for years to PSA, you get a better sense how harsh you must grade your own cards. The more I grade myself, the better my grades have been, as I have been more harsh on my own cards. Excellent video. P.S. the Pokemon was a nice add, those three cards in a psa 10 are quite a lot.
Geoff, I'd love to see you crack that 6 Victor and submit it to Tag. Mainly because I want to see a video with your thoughts on Tag and AI grading. Love the info you provide in your videos.
PSA handing out 10s on my sendins like candy. Not sure what is going on but for years it was almost impossible to get a PSA 10. Now its pretty consistent
It's because you no longer have to have 4 sharp corners to get a PSA 10. They even grade cards with paper loss PSA 10's. Really lowered their standards
Go to search eng, type n psa, click on psa, click on box topish left corner with 3 little lines n the box, click on "Services & Prices", then simply keep scrolling down & read.
Try to submit a Pete Maravich 1972 icee bear. A PSA 10 on that card sells for $18,000. There are only 11 PSA 10. It is one of the coolest looking basketball cards. Maravich's background is all clouds and all the other cards in the set are a plain background.
Congrats on the reveal but about half of those tens would have been 9’s if it was some random joe sending in those cards into psa. He should have submitted all those 1980’s tops baseball and basketball fleer when PSA knew it was Geoff cards and a few more of those 9 would have been 10’s. You can’t get a 10 on 1980’s through 93 on any cards unless you know too PSA people or sent them in late 90’s though 00’s. It’s about pop control. PSA is a sorta scam on some grades.
Yep 100% agreed. A random person like myself wldnt of got that many 10s. I sent in 12 wemby prizm rookoes or select all pack fresh, thrn sleeved and I got four of those 10s and the rest 9s
Quick question I just received a bunch of packs in a lot from previous years and opened a Nolan Ryan donruss king of kings and they say there is a error one that could be worth a lot could you let me know if this is true?
All the people saying it's rigged. The guys a professional, has more experience than you can dream of hence why you're here watching his video. Never stop to think he just knows how to judge a card unlike everyone here who thinks because it goes from pack to toploader it should be a 10.... Geoff does so much good for the hobby, just stop all the hate.
I was very disappointed to learn that grading is not done blindly. There seems to be a lot of winking and nodding going on. I wish some company would come along and do it more openly and fairly. But I do appreciate Geoff's show and all he's doing for the hobby.
If I was at the national and just got all that back I am hitting the floor and finding the price I want in cash. No fees taxes or other such bs involved.
Speaking of PSA vault, what about my Jordan Auto that I listed with PSA vault to sell on EBay, buyer never paid which happens all the time, and my card is now stuck in limbo with it being noted as “awaiting payment” lol, it’s been 4 months and still can’t do anything. Contacted PSA and they just tell me they’re working on it. Are you kidding me. What a joke. eBay vault was perfect the way it was. Thanks eBay for selling out.
Nat Turner can't accept the fact that I discovered the 1986 Fleer Michael Jordan Sticker Reverse Error and won't accept for grading because there's not enough in circulation and isn't recognized by the hobby as an official error card. That's because it was just discovered in 2021 so of course it doesn't have much history. I've since found one more so now 2 are known to exist. PSA needs to recognize these cards!
Turner, along with an investor group, purchased Collectors Universe, which owns third-party grading giant Professional Sports Authenticator (PSA). The investor group finalized the deal in February 2021 for $853 million.
Why on earth would anyone pay extra fees to vault their cards? Maybe I just don’t get it but I want my cards with me. I can ship them if I ever sell them.
How clearly is this corrupt. The wemby was the base the most inexpensive card and it gets a “6”. Geoff tried to pretend like that wasn’t staged he knew he had to try to have some low grades to prevent us from realizing this is all corrupt.
Mighty Funny how My George Pickens got graded an 8 but when I send to SGC it got a 10 I don’t trust PSA like that I think they try scale down how many 10’s they want out there…!
I actually stopped doing slabs.. I really began to enjoy patch/jersey cards why?? 1) they’re so unique and 2 of the same card will be different 2) no one really cares about grading them… you’re mainly looking for just a sick patch… and no one expects high grades on thick cards… so not being graded won’t impact them almost at all
PSA charges you (starting!) at *16%* !?!? LMAO! eBay as well typically charges around 12% … I can see why the PSA guy was super uncomfortable telling the fee prices (stuttering) I would be too. 😂 *That means you’re gonna pay STARTING around 28% on your sale* - that is RIDICULOUS! Say you sell a card for $700… your FEE is gonna be STARTING at $196 😂😂😂 yeah no thanks. That isn’t gonna last.
They didn’t mention they steal your slabs. The min price crap is broken. I put starting bid $10 on tons of auctions. They all started at 99 cents. Many ended $4. And the fee to list is $5. So they just stole my cards. It said item sold $4. Minus $4 listing fee. Proceeds $0. Cards gone. Awful makes me wanna quit hobby. How is this legal nat turner 😢😢😢
Get started with the PSA Vault: www.psacard.com/info/psa-vault
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Zack Hample.
Please they do not respond.......... Go Promote for Nat somewhere else. They were better with Joe Orlando.
This was the longest PSA commercial I’ve ever seen.
That bron getting a 10/10 is the biggest slap in the face for collectors. Anyone one else subs it it would’ve been a 8-9/10
You ain't lying
I’m very indifferent on SCN/Geoff Wilson. But grading is a skill, and you grade as much as he does, you will honestly get better at it. I’ve noticed it myself. Just something to consider
The auto didn’t look like a 10 IMO
I will say I did dual service first time ever. And 10 ultra modern cards in a row came back 10/10 so it’s not as rare or rigged as everyone thinks. 😂😂😂
My PSA experience has been shaky at best. If he did a true blind sub under a different name (one of his minion employees) I'd buy this reveal as being fully genuine from PSA
Come on man!! It's like an infomercial for PSA!! Almost all 10's yeah right!
Reminds me of all the “Rare Finds” in Storage Units 😂
That Wemby 6 is just their way of trying to not make it seemed rigged
Fr, somehow the least valuable card was the one that got a 6 🤣
Yep, can crack it and get a PSA 10 the next time. Deliberately downgraded on the Webanyama to attract people's attention
Knocked back to earth with the base wemby like the rest of us peasants. Like he would grade a base wemby in real land lol
@@Shelton_47 I thought the same. Why grade that? Then On the PSA sponsored vid, he kills it. Whole thing felt fixed.
This video makes me 🤢
Must be nice to know the big man at PSA, cause there is no way if a random person submitted those would have gotten all those 10s. That guy at the end seems super nervous to be on camera.
Facts
lol not surprised, the hobby has been insanely corrupt the past few years.
Make your submissions to PSA under the name Geoff Wilson😂😂
Any proof??? Didn’t think so…
Its a club and u aint in it
Now lets do a video of cracking these PSA 10's out of their holders and getting re-graded by just one of us regular Joes.....You'ld be LUCKY to get 2 10's!
What? Have you sent to psa before? If you clean it up and select what you send in pretty carefully get 70-80% 10s is easy
The wembly prob grade a 10 then lmao
You absolutely scored on the Wemby PSA 6!!! There's 18,000 PSA 10s compared to only 100 PSA 6
😂😂😂
Oh wow! Mr. Richie Rich is friends with PSA guys! Let's see what grades he gets!
Haha 😂
😄
Wemby 6 😂 , yeah alright mr.richie rich
PSA does all this talking about innovation like improving the grading process, vaulting, and partnering with selling platforms. The list goes on and on. How about this for an innovation - open more grading sites. There should be at least four different sites broken up by region. More jobs, quicker turnaround times, more people submitting cards. So many positives to doing this.
This grading reveal makes it too obvious that PSA graded his cards very generously knowing his video would be seen by hundreds of thousands of sports card collectors.
Geoff could be on that insurance commercial that people turning into their parents…🤣
Asking "Are there any storage fees?" when standing next to wall that says "No storage fees"... 🤣
I was LMAO,.......... The vault service is a joke. They have no way of contacting them via phone if you have an issue with one of your stored cards. They do not message back as well.
Um well if you look to your right your find your answer. 😄
An influencer promotes PSA then gets big grades on big cards? Color me shocked 😮
EXACTLY! I woulda got 7's and 8's! What a COMPLETE and TOTAL SCAM of a JOKE!!
Or you could just have a better eye and submit better cards. Bums.
Ever thought maybe his cards were just in good condition? Not everything is a scam you’re just jealous your cards are psa 7 condition
@@Cmag5108 Sure and the Easter Bunny is real....
@@Cmag5108 ok Geoff you tell'em! - and WATCH OUT! There goes BIG FOOT!!
Take a shot every time he says "this is a big card"
Geoff you need to do a special long investigative episode on the CT scanning that backyard breaks has been doing and others for awhile now. This changes everything!!!
Look at the bright side that Wemby PSA 6 is a low pop compared to PSA 10 🤣
😂😂😂😂
I normally don't enjoy 20 minute ads but this one was interesting enough :)
WOW! Gratz Geoff on the LeBron 10/10. YUGE!
"Who submitted these cards?"
Geoff Wilson
"Go 2 grades above what they should get so we can take advantage of others that submit, but give them 2 grades less than what they should get"
His submission by mail: He gets approx 20% PSA 10 (near 1/3rd are 8s)
His submission in person: He gets approx 80% PSA 10 (no 8s at all?)
This is statistically impossible unless favoritism is in play (or blame it on fake human error/judgement). Both submissions had same outlook on cards, pre-screened for high 9-10, both accounting for modern cards only. Sample size is smaller for this reveal but is still incredibly telling. Whether they know same details by mail or inperson, I have seen already 3 instances where statistical improbabilities and unforeseen outliers are evident. I never grade cards for this reason, it is wildly controlled against consumers and foul play is a concern. I am not wholly against grading, but people who act on reason, morale, logic, and common sense should reconsider grading cards.
So true!🤔😊
PSA would be more harsh on a non-PSA influencer. Just my humble opinion 🤷♀️
Victor Wemby PSA 6 going in the ‘take a penny, leave a penny’ bin with the Wade Boggs PSA 5 at the Atlanta shop. 😂
Jeff let me know next time your sending cards to PSA for grading ,so I can send mine with your to see if I can get as lucky as you with all those 10z😂😂😂
18:42 .. no way that Jackson Holliday is centered 10/10 lol
Not only is it off center slightly looking at the video but stop the video and zoom in at the right side upper corner .. could be the video but … idk
Geoff, well done. I am in the minority here: Once you submit for years to PSA, you get a better sense how harsh you must grade your own cards. The more I grade myself, the better my grades have been, as I have been more harsh on my own cards. Excellent video. P.S. the Pokemon was a nice add, those three cards in a psa 10 are quite a lot.
This grading was about as rigged as could be. No chsnce a normal person sending those in gets all those 10s
This is the best grading reveal you've ever uploaded???? Lol, wild!
THIS HAS HAWKTUAH WRITTEN ALL OVER IT 😂
Thanks for the info Miguel!
Not surprised the Topps, Pokémon and UD cards get 10s, and the Panini cards get crap. It starts at the factory line. 😅
Geoff, I'd love to see you crack that 6 Victor and submit it to Tag. Mainly because I want to see a video with your thoughts on Tag and AI grading. Love the info you provide in your videos.
We need PSA to do onsite stuff for our Aussie shows.
PSA handing out 10s on my sendins like candy. Not sure what is going on but for years it was almost impossible to get a PSA 10. Now its pretty consistent
So true, years ago a Psa 10 really meant something now you can get a Psa 10 pretty easy
It's because you no longer have to have 4 sharp corners to get a PSA 10. They even grade cards with paper loss PSA 10's. Really lowered their standards
Go to search eng, type n psa, click on psa, click on box topish left corner with 3 little lines n the box, click on "Services & Prices", then simply keep scrolling down & read.
Lmao psa absolutely gifts him on everything except a base wemby and acts like the sky is falling
Try to submit a Pete Maravich 1972 icee bear. A PSA 10 on that card sells for $18,000.
There are only 11 PSA 10.
It is one of the coolest looking basketball cards. Maravich's background is all clouds and all the other cards in the set are a plain background.
Congrats on the reveal but about half of those tens would have been 9’s if it was some random joe sending in those cards into psa. He should have submitted all those 1980’s tops baseball and basketball fleer when PSA knew it was Geoff cards and a few more of those 9 would have been 10’s. You can’t get a 10 on 1980’s through 93 on any cards unless you know too PSA people or sent them in late 90’s though 00’s. It’s about pop control. PSA is a sorta scam on some grades.
SGC are the same too especially on the big name players. They deliberately downgrade
Yep - what a SCAM! If I sent them in I woulda got 7's and 8's - no wonder why people Hate this world nowadays!!
Only your mom can like this comment!
scratches on a new holder or horizontal print lines on the messi at 9:23?
How much to grade these cards in person???
Were you able to submit the Pokémon with the sports on one submission or did you have to do multiple?
What's the point of giving the value for insurance when they are grading them on the spot
In case someone carelessly bends the shit out of the card or something, I guess.
just in case Ocean's 11 crew makes a heist
Less pumping of psa and goldin, more pumping of small card shops
I love these videos
Thanks
Killer cards! Gratz!
Did you sell that big ben downtown yet?
Everyone watch 1 month ago “$60,000 card reveal” was the opposite grades from these. 🤔
I think I'll still stick with trying TAG or SGC
Yep 100% agreed. A random person like myself wldnt of got that many 10s. I sent in 12 wemby prizm rookoes or select all pack fresh, thrn sleeved and I got four of those 10s and the rest 9s
Pack fresh doesn't mean a card is a 10, most cards have manufacturing imperfections
Quick question I just received a bunch of packs in a lot from previous years and opened a Nolan Ryan donruss king of kings and they say there is a error one that could be worth a lot could you let me know if this is true?
Is it worth dual grading an auto card? What are you looking for to get a good auto grade?
Not sure that Wemby base was worth grading considering the cost of grading for same show delivery.
All the people saying it's rigged. The guys a professional, has more experience than you can dream of hence why you're here watching his video. Never stop to think he just knows how to judge a card unlike everyone here who thinks because it goes from pack to toploader it should be a 10.... Geoff does so much good for the hobby, just stop all the hate.
Wow your ignorance knows no bounds.
You can definitely tell by the he rips packs!
Hi , where is this located ? when is the next location for
like this ? Thanks
The National was in Cleveland, Ohio this year and 2025 is in Chicago.
Have my Elly radiating rookie at psa as I’m watching this
My condolences ahead of time then… 😅.
Psa 7 😅
Interested why you would grade any 1 of 1 cards? Serious question.
Hey Geoff how are you after that superfractor pull. Thanks big H !
Ay Jeff, let me hollar at that Chourio.
What does it cost to get cards PSA graded?
The insurance up-charge is such a scam. Especially in a situation like this where the cards are being dropped off and picked up in person
as someone that doesnt follow sports card market it would be cool too see how much the psa grade affects the price of the card on screen
It's awesome how even he has no idea why psa gave the Victor a 6 because there is absolutely no feedback from psa.
Do you have to have an account with it.
Geoff your older kids awesome buisness man Tell him for me .. since comments are off on his channel ... ty and ocngrats on your good grades ...
I was very disappointed to learn that grading is not done blindly. There seems to be a lot of winking and nodding going on. I wish some company would come along and do it more openly and fairly. But I do appreciate Geoff's show and all he's doing for the hobby.
Friends and Family😂😂😂
How much did it cost to get your cards graded at the show with psa?
it was free for sure because Mr. Richie Rich Rich is friends with PSA!
Man, those are solid grades. Wish I had as much as you recently. Interesting…
If I was at the national and just got all that back I am hitting the floor and finding the price I want in cash. No fees taxes or other such bs involved.
When you get a low grade, do the email you or something telling you why the card got a low grade?
I want to buy the Jamo!
Amazing submission. Congratulations on the equally amazing return! 🤯
how is that bron auto a 10?
Look like a casino cash out booth 😂
Just trust PSA to take my card and leave it somewhere and trust nothing will happen and they’ll just send me my money? Yeah, I’ll pass
Speaking of PSA vault, what about my Jordan Auto that I listed with PSA vault to sell on EBay, buyer never paid which happens all the time, and my card is now stuck in limbo with it being noted as “awaiting payment” lol, it’s been 4 months and still can’t do anything. Contacted PSA and they just tell me they’re working on it. Are you kidding me. What a joke. eBay vault was perfect the way it was. Thanks eBay for selling out.
Sometimes i think parts of the grading includes how ..cool rare and sought after the card is as well…agree?
Yeah, the big cards get the 10's while the base Wemby gets a 6. True story.
Lol. Yeah… funny how that works out huh…? Lol
Nice submission.
I would like for my grader(s) to sign off on their grades, so collectors have documentation as to who is competent, and who is not.
How do you miss whatever caused that Wemby to be a 6?
Nat Turner can't accept the fact that I discovered the 1986 Fleer Michael Jordan Sticker Reverse Error and won't accept for grading because there's not enough in circulation and isn't recognized by the hobby as an official error card. That's because it was just discovered in 2021 so of course it doesn't have much history. I've since found one more so now 2 are known to exist. PSA needs to recognize these cards!
Who is Nat Turner?
Turner, along with an investor group, purchased Collectors Universe, which owns third-party grading giant Professional Sports Authenticator (PSA). The investor group finalized the deal in February 2021 for $853 million.
Why on earth would anyone pay extra fees to vault their cards? Maybe I just don’t get it but I want my cards with me. I can ship them if I ever sell them.
What was wrong with wemby 6
How clearly is this corrupt. The wemby was the base the most inexpensive card and it gets a “6”. Geoff tried to pretend like that wasn’t staged he knew he had to try to have some low grades to prevent us from realizing this is all corrupt.
It probably had some semen on the surface
The Pokemon stuff is cheaper
I think the 6 was payback for All those 10s 😂😅😂
Didn't expect Nat to be so short.
It's so funny how Geoff misspells football players names
There’s always a random 4 or 6
What about the pee wee Reese rookie auto?
I bet on that psa 6 wemby it’s a nail print
Mighty Funny how My George Pickens got graded an 8 but when I send to SGC it got a 10 I don’t trust PSA like that I think they try scale down how many 10’s they want out there…!
TAG is the way to go. total transparency . Not sure why all collectors buy in so much to PSA
The game is rigged fellas. Time to stop playing but addicts gonna addict.
I actually stopped doing slabs.. I really began to enjoy patch/jersey cards why??
1) they’re so unique and 2 of the same card will be different
2) no one really cares about grading them… you’re mainly looking for just a sick patch… and no one expects high grades on thick cards… so not being graded won’t impact them almost at all
Good lord what a scam
So glad people in the comments are realizing that what a joke
PSA charges you (starting!) at *16%* !?!? LMAO! eBay as well typically charges around 12% …
I can see why the PSA guy was super uncomfortable telling the fee prices (stuttering) I would be too. 😂
*That means you’re gonna pay STARTING around 28% on your sale* - that is RIDICULOUS! Say you sell a card for $700… your FEE is gonna be STARTING at $196 😂😂😂 yeah no thanks. That isn’t gonna last.
The guy said a consolidated fee between PSA/eBay of 16% and sliding scale down to 7% depending on sale price
Had to give a 6 to cover up those 10s
They didn’t mention they steal your slabs. The min price crap is broken. I put starting bid $10 on tons of auctions. They all started at 99 cents. Many ended $4. And the fee to list is $5. So they just stole my cards. It said item sold $4. Minus $4 listing fee. Proceeds $0. Cards gone. Awful makes me wanna quit hobby. How is this legal nat turner 😢😢😢
2:21 now i'd love to grade her.
You guys make me want to collect cards