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  • @iamhuffman
    @iamhuffman Рік тому +756

    he also forgot about the issues with the power armor helmet having material in it that was hazardous and had to ask people to return it so they can get a safer one. F76 was bethesdas worse nightmare

    • @filipvadas7602
      @filipvadas7602 Рік тому +74

      I think that actually wasn't Bethesda's fault, mostly. As only the ones with custom colours were found to be toxic and that was mainly the fault of the company they contracted to make them.
      Still, it just shows how their quality control is nonexistent

    • @DKZK21
      @DKZK21 Рік тому +49

      Yeah that was a Gamestop exclusive pre-order bonus so nothing you can lay at the hands of Bethesda there. They had plenty controversy of their own doing, no need to tack on more they weren't responsible for lol

    • @Vaguer_Weevil
      @Vaguer_Weevil Рік тому +2

      If I remember there was also a thing about mould growing inside the helmets after a while

    • @dustinrausch5008
      @dustinrausch5008 Рік тому +19

      In addition to everyone else's replies, that didn't happen until after Internet Historian posted his video. That's also why Fallout 1st was never mentioned.

    • @drafezard7315
      @drafezard7315 Рік тому +5

      Tones of stuff including that happened after the video was made, probably enough to make a part 2 shame it never happened.

  • @darrylferguson3622
    @darrylferguson3622 Рік тому +296

    As someone that listened to my gut and waited for it to launch, seeing the spectacle of all this unfold on a weekly to bi-weekly basis was glorious

    • @NewCandyCane
      @NewCandyCane Рік тому +7

      I've always wanted a online fallout ever since I played fo3. But too bad they ruined that chance.

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames  Рік тому +16

      Always good to trust your gut 🙂

    • @pabloc8808
      @pabloc8808 Рік тому +3

      It's not unusual for AAA games to be unplayable on release day, add the fact that Fallout has always been kind of a mess and there you have it, one of the worst gaming experiences in history, but definitely one of the funniest to watch

    • @bulanet271
      @bulanet271 Рік тому +2

      ​@@NewCandyCane well there's fonline. Sort of fallout2 online

    • @Altoryu
      @Altoryu Рік тому +3

      @@pabloc8808 Bethesda was always an odd exception since the fact that their games in the past were always highly moddable meant that whatever screw ups they did make were fixed by the community so they never generally had to lift a finger. However with having a game that was always online meant that really they couldn't have modders fix things for them so their trademark shoddy work was laid bare for all to see.

  • @failanx315
    @failanx315 Рік тому +165

    Played this with friends. Got to a point where I was just playing for the exploits/glitches. A group had a discord server setup where they were just giving away ammo/weapons/armor/schematics/etc. For free. It was a fun community because anything the organizers didn't have, you could donate for them to duplicate it to spread to the masses.

    • @xiii0722
      @xiii0722 Рік тому +12

      Damn, yeah I mean that definitely one way of enjoying that buggy mess of a game.

    • @RipChordProductions
      @RipChordProductions Рік тому

      *you have a link to this discord?*

    • @failanx315
      @failanx315 Рік тому +2

      @Ismail-tp1wn Don't know if the discord server still exists or not. I think they patched the duplication bugs a long time ago. I recall it being fairly dead in it in terms of activity once they ran out of the bulk of what they duplicated. It was called F.A.S.T free awesome stuff today.

  • @thechatteringclown
    @thechatteringclown Рік тому +279

    oh boy. watching the whole thing unfold in real time, back when the game first released, was quiet the experience. looking forward to your thoughts and opinions on this one. internet historian deliver an amazing video and i'm impressed that he managed to compound all of it into one video.

    • @plasticgrass3191
      @plasticgrass3191 Рік тому +5

      it really was quiet the experience
      so much that i couldn't hear it at all

    • @tmdiz4579
      @tmdiz4579 Рік тому +1

      among us

    • @thesyndrome43
      @thesyndrome43 Рік тому

      Agreed, it was hilarious to check the gaming news sites every week and see some new controversy caused by Bethesda's INCREDIBLE incompetence, some of them, like the accidental doxxing of users, blew my mind with how bad they were

    • @johncenashi5117
      @johncenashi5117 Рік тому

      I still go back to Joseph Anderssons video sometimes because its just to funny.

    • @holymosey2556
      @holymosey2556 Рік тому

      ​@@plasticgrass3191 potatoes in your ears 😂

  • @MortalReaver
    @MortalReaver Рік тому +57

    For nerf and cash shop. They nerfed durability of food, so it would spoil quickly, players complained. Next patch they said they heard playerbase and solved the problem. They added fridge that would increase it to prenerf durability, but you can only get it through cash shop.

  • @Danceofmasks
    @Danceofmasks Рік тому +89

    This is why I'm going to give Starfield a year to bake after launch, before even considering buying it.

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames  Рік тому +12

      Good call 🙂

    • @Brainreaver79
      @Brainreaver79 Рік тому +1

      yeah, giving a tripple a title at least few months after release to see if its worth spending money on. and as an important warning 95% of the time the amount of hype is proportional to the bullshit they try to sell you...

    • @kevine9474
      @kevine9474 5 місяців тому +2

      You were right obviously.

    • @Danceofmasks
      @Danceofmasks 5 місяців тому +1

      @@kevine9474 After launch, I saw that it was mediocre. Still wanted to play it, so I bought it anyway.

  • @feuerklinge9004
    @feuerklinge9004 Рік тому +107

    So cool you are watch more Internet Historian. 🙏 Some of his stuff is not exactly gaming based but still a must watch. "Man in a Hole" or some of his older convention videos are very entertaining and definitely worth checking out. 😊

    • @acrab6527
      @acrab6527 Рік тому +4

      Or The Gentleman Pirate over on his Sundance Rejects channel. I wish they did more of those, they were fun.

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames  Рік тому +10

      He knows how to present an entertaining story 🙂

  • @frozenfoxgames5300
    @frozenfoxgames5300 Рік тому +7

    It's things like this that make me glad I'm mainly a single player gamer.

    • @Glenn_Quagmire
      @Glenn_Quagmire Рік тому

      Games good now if you have a friend to play with I highly recommend it😊

    • @frozenfoxgames5300
      @frozenfoxgames5300 Рік тому +2

      @@Glenn_Quagmire
      I played the game a bit before I made that comment, and I couldn't even get through 5 minutes of playing before I got bored of it.

    • @paperclip6377
      @paperclip6377 Місяць тому

      ​@@Glenn_Quagmire the game is NOT good now

  • @dimetime35c
    @dimetime35c Рік тому +6

    With no man sky the devs said we aren't going down like this. They genuinely had a want to fix the game. They could have taken the money and run. But they didn't do that, they wanted to fix it.

  • @iklantloin4593
    @iklantloin4593 Рік тому +23

    Honestly i was just shocked by this whole Video i never thought Bethesda would stoop that low

  • @stingerjohnny9951
    @stingerjohnny9951 Рік тому +4

    Here’s my favorite part of the Nuca Cola Dark bit. If it cost them more to make an uglier, flimsier container, then why would they not just go glass?
    Nothing says an excuse is horse shit more than the claim of “we spent MORE on this.”

  • @captaincooties6399
    @captaincooties6399 Рік тому +8

    YES MORE INTERNET HISTORIAN VIDEOS PLEASE!!!!
    You guys are the best!!

  • @Itachi17839
    @Itachi17839 Рік тому +25

    Yay you guys did it this one finally. Please do more internet historian he does other topics other than just games like actual historical even and it's very entertaining like The Cost of Concordia so yeah love your reactions guys do more jeje 😁

  • @royartorius
    @royartorius Рік тому +5

    YES! I REMEMBER SUGGESTING THIS :D
    Thank you for doing your reaction ❤️

  • @Caldera01
    @Caldera01 Рік тому +4

    I will say this.
    It is easier for a small company to retain its heart and morality than for a large corporation.
    That said, it doesn't excuse Bethesda's actions.
    I am so happy to see you guys return to Internet Historian. So many even greater stories left to be told there.

    • @LadyDoomsinger
      @LadyDoomsinger Рік тому +1

      Yeah, I think Todd Howard and the original dev team on Arena, Daggerfall, and Morrowind actually cared about their games and were dedicated to making art rather than a "product" - but somewhere between Oblivion and Fallout 3 (which were still decent enough games, but saw the first hints of corporate greed bleeding through), the company morphed into something bigger, more unwieldy, more profit-oriented.
      Of course, it is possible that Todd fooled us all from the beginning, at it really was just all about the profits for him all along - and the only reason he didn't do it in the earlier titles is because he couldn't get away with it, while the company was that small - but I think, if Todd himself didn't care back then, the dev team still had enough creative freedom to create their vision the way they saw it, without too much interference from money-grubbing investors (or Todd) - that creative freedom may have been what was lost when the company got bigger.

  • @mr.butterknuckles6733
    @mr.butterknuckles6733 Рік тому +14

    Been waiting for this one. Once again awesome reactons !!🙌🙌

  • @ChloePricesNumberOneSimp
    @ChloePricesNumberOneSimp Рік тому +10

    Yessss. More Internet Historian. He's an amazing content creator.

  • @LorePlayingGames
    @LorePlayingGames Рік тому +4

    Aw man, I was following that flaming circus when it was happening at the time. Thanks for reminding me of this.

  • @Luciphell
    @Luciphell Рік тому +2

    And people wonder why piracy of AAA games will never die. It's the obvious response to their own actions.

  • @The_Page_5_Chronicles
    @The_Page_5_Chronicles Рік тому +9

    Its still a fun game to play online especially with family and friends. Build together, level up together, do missions together. & The other players online are usually always friendly

  • @DMitr0
    @DMitr0 Рік тому +1

    no mans sky is the story of someone that didn't know two words, early access.
    FO76 is the story of how bethesda completly turned to vilanny.

  • @Eogard
    @Eogard Рік тому +15

    Yes ! More Internet Historian ! Let's go

  • @Mylesthemyth
    @Mylesthemyth Рік тому +8

    Yeah i've also been waiting for this one, so crazy. I have lost a lot of faith in Bethesda as of late and I agree with the No Man's Sky optimism. I believe the Dev's at No Man's Sky truly wanted to make a great game, just got overwhelmed.

  • @darkshadow5581
    @darkshadow5581 Рік тому +3

    It gets even crazier, as a year after Fallout 76's release, with very little change in its quality, Bethesda released Fallout 1st, a $100 subscription that basically gave people private lobbies, and Infinite camp storage (+cosmetics). So after everything that was in this video, Bethesda looked at it and said "I think our problem was we didn't rip off our players hard enough".

    • @BerishStarr
      @BerishStarr Рік тому

      Rip players off? I don't know how much free stuff I've gotten, but its a lot. I've paid for the game 1 time, and FO1st one month. I wouldn't call that a "rip off". And Fallout 1st is optional (and not as fun), but its also $12.99 a month.

    • @darkshadow5581
      @darkshadow5581 Рік тому +4

      @BerishStarr I'm sorry, but if you're paying 75+ for fallout 76 and it's first, meanwhile many companies have a much healthier player mentality like InXile or Larian, I think it's self destructive to reward money grabbing behavior

    • @SolidSnake240
      @SolidSnake240 Рік тому

      ​@@BerishStarr people like you that make excuses for these companies are why they'll keep churning out shit games at launch

    • @rendezvousonmemorylane
      @rendezvousonmemorylane 11 місяців тому +1

      You sound like you have too much money. @@BerishStarr

  • @Thecarianknight
    @Thecarianknight Рік тому +11

    Yes! more internet historian!

  • @fatkidwithfudge
    @fatkidwithfudge Рік тому +13

    Remember watching this trainwreck unfold at the time. It was amazing how consistent they were at messing up. New issues popping up back to back. It was one of those rare uniting moments, where people universally joined hands... and just watched it all implode.

  • @ocoDOT
    @ocoDOT Рік тому +7

    I love these two, so fun to watch!

  • @GarioTheRock
    @GarioTheRock Рік тому +12

    Ah yes, a tale almost as good as: "The Engoodening of No Man's Sky," but less cheery 😂

  • @Antares-rt5ub
    @Antares-rt5ub Рік тому +4

    I have been waiting for this one since the No Mans Sky video. Thank you!

  • @crimsonknight7011
    @crimsonknight7011 Рік тому +1

    Oh oh oh. One of the BIGGEST things was that a guy with some friends made a whole map of the game listing where to find stuff and put that out for other players. They then heard about a glitch that was ruin I guess the game for many players that someone was using to I believe kill their characters. So this guy and his team spent numerous hours trying to figure out exactly how this glitch worked and reported it to Bethesda telling all the information they had gathered.
    However, instead of thanking them for bringing a harmful glitch to their attention and instructing them how to fix it, they instead gave them PERMANENT BANS claiming they had “abused the glitch” by trying to figure out how it worked over hundreds of attempts. The guy that actually used it to harm others tho was given like a 1-3 day ban.
    The guy got so angry that he took down the map and refused to have anything to do with Bethesda.

  • @minilabyrinth
    @minilabyrinth Рік тому +4

    Don't know which one I love, the no man's sky or 76 video, probably seen both of them dozens of times now from different reactors. Such good journeys

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames  Рік тому +1

      The no man’s sky was a little more feel good so we liked that one better 🤗 not saying it was a better video just that it made us feel better haha 😛

  • @Akrymir
    @Akrymir Рік тому +2

    A former Bethesda dev was talking about how Todd got the nickname Seagull because he'd "fly" around shitting on everyone's work and ideas.
    Apparently no one wanted to work on FO76 so people were forced off their projects. It was originally a demo to show how they can get multiplayer to work on their engine, but since there was such a huge gap between FO4 and their next title (Starfield) Zenimax, their parent company back then, needed them to get something out that could make money in the meantime. So you had a game built on a janky tech demo, that no one wanted to work on, that was only made to milk money from players... so it really isn't surprising how it turned out.

    • @Glenn_Quagmire
      @Glenn_Quagmire Рік тому

      Despite all this it still amazes me that fo76 has a more interesting map, better weapon designs, better creature designs, better armour and apparel designs, and a better main quest than fallout 4. Honestly at this point I have more faith in Bethesdas B team then their A team

    • @Akrymir
      @Akrymir Рік тому

      @@Glenn_Quagmire Standing on the shoulders of giants and calling yourself tall is quite an interesting take.

  • @doomslayer1210
    @doomslayer1210 Рік тому +2

    YES. I’m so glad you reacted to this.

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames  Рік тому +1

      We are glad we finally got around to it 🙂

    • @doomslayer1210
      @doomslayer1210 Рік тому

      @@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames do you think when you got time you could react to some Hi Fi Rush stuff? Maybe play it. It’s really fun.

  • @crimsonknight7011
    @crimsonknight7011 Рік тому +1

    I remember actually seeing those reviews before they were deleted. They didn’t pay anyone to make fake reviews, it was actually much much weirder. Instead they did dozens of reviews using character names from Fallout 4. Basically the reviews were “posted by” characters from Fallout 4 and used some lines from the games that their character used

    • @nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457
      @nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457 Рік тому

      LMAO, what!?

    • @crimsonknight7011
      @crimsonknight7011 Рік тому +1

      Yah, it was stuff like
      Reviewer: Strong
      “This not milk of kindness but Strong likes it anyway”
      Reviewer: Preston Garvey
      “This drink has helped many settlements”
      Basically the idea of the replies

    • @nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457
      @nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457 Рік тому

      @@crimsonknight7011 Perfection.

  • @Jason-ji8ql
    @Jason-ji8ql Рік тому +1

    It's no Cyberpunk fiasco, but at least it prepared us for the idea a AAA studio could sell garbage and pretend nothing was wrong.

    • @Danganraptor
      @Danganraptor Рік тому

      Honestly, I'd say 2076 was worse. The hype for 2077 was bigger, but at least the worst of it was bugs and glitches; 2076, on the other hand...
      That, and at least *most* of 2077's updates add something meaningful and fix actual problems instead of making it worse for players.

  • @crimsonknight7011
    @crimsonknight7011 Рік тому +1

    There were some other things too. There was a “Mr. Handy” robot that would clean your base and such. They admitted that they forgot to put it in the game when it was finished and that it was suppose to be a free thing for you to have, however they then said they would be putting it into the game that spring/summer but would now be charging players for it.
    They were asking players for suggestions on how to make the game more fun and some players had great ideas. They decided to create those ideas in the game…..but put them in the shop as well.
    They came out with the “Fallout First” which was to be a one year membership deal that would allow you to have your own worlds and customize how you liked. However there were tons of bugs where people lost their stuff and people were able to join private worlds, steal everything, and leave.

    • @crimsonknight7011
      @crimsonknight7011 Рік тому

      When the game was being made they said many times that it would be a game for mods to be done like how people have done in other games. However when it came out they went against that.
      Also it got found out that their anti-cheat software was searching peoples hard drives and if it found cheats for other games it would think they used them on 76 and ban them.

  • @bolikde9389
    @bolikde9389 Рік тому

    The Bug where you run faster by looking down exists since Fallout 3.

    • @ShadeStormXD
      @ShadeStormXD 5 місяців тому

      thats how i used to play left 4 dead

  • @WhatBigClawsYouHave
    @WhatBigClawsYouHave 10 місяців тому +1

    I love that Bethesda is just Godd Howard 😂

  • @Tijuanabill
    @Tijuanabill 5 місяців тому

    Bethesda didn't create Vault-tec, but they aspire to be them.

  • @crazyguy_1233
    @crazyguy_1233 3 місяці тому +1

    Lol I played Fallout 76 shortly after launch. I remember the t posing enemies and it made me laugh so much. The time was just so laughable.

  • @geraldthegoose1685
    @geraldthegoose1685 Рік тому +24

    Because of this event I am scared for the new elder scrolls

    • @joshuaa7223
      @joshuaa7223 Рік тому +3

      It’ll be fine.

    • @geraldthegoose1685
      @geraldthegoose1685 Рік тому +7

      @@joshuaa7223 I pray it is. They should have enough money considering how many times they rerelease Skyrim 💀

    • @joshuaa7223
      @joshuaa7223 Рік тому +2

      @@geraldthegoose1685 Yeah but I’m sure they’ve probably learned by now that they shouldn’t make games like 76 lol.

    • @geraldthegoose1685
      @geraldthegoose1685 Рік тому +1

      @@joshuaa7223 fr god forbid Todd says 16x the detail for elder scrolls

    • @jayc413
      @jayc413 Рік тому +1

      Well I'll do the same as sonic frontiers. I'll keep my expectations low and then be pleasantly surprised if it turns out amazing

  • @alexandriabrangwin
    @alexandriabrangwin Рік тому

    The attitude towards gaming forever was we don't deserve basic consumer rights, it's time wasting etc.
    This was the moment a lot of people snapped out of it.

  • @OddpepperL
    @OddpepperL Рік тому

    When he said “ad time” at 12:28 I got an ad lmao

  • @greenin5537
    @greenin5537 11 місяців тому

    IIRC, bethesda apparently forgot to paid for the falloutfirst website domain, which apparently was for a fallout first membership thing. Someone took it and vandalized it lmao

  • @crnlonewolf3195
    @crnlonewolf3195 Рік тому +2

    See the video:
    Ooooh boy I better get a drink for this one

    • @kn0bhe4d
      @kn0bhe4d Рік тому +1

      As long as it isn't that rum.

  • @TheKingOfBears.
    @TheKingOfBears. Рік тому +12

    Fallout 76 isn't that bad now, they haven't abandoned it yet and they keep adding big updates with new content and activities for free. The player base is stable and there is a good amount of players. There are still bugs but none of them are game-breaking and the game is improved tremendously.

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames  Рік тому

      Glad that they have kept improving the game 🙂

    • @RolandCollides
      @RolandCollides Рік тому +1

      A lot of people still treat this game like a punching bag long after they’ve abandoned it, even those who haven’t touched it at all. Though games shouldn’t be released like the broken mess that 76 was at the start, it is a good sign that the devs didn’t just scoot it under the rug to be forgotten. I’m still playing it to this day and I’m pretty happy with how the game has turned out. No, it’s not perfect, but it is still a really enjoyable experience, even when playing solo.

    • @danutghidia5820
      @danutghidia5820 Рік тому

      @@RolandCollides Bethesda should have been sued into the ground and the company shut down over all the obviously illegal shit they pulled

    • @Glenn_Quagmire
      @Glenn_Quagmire Рік тому

      ​@@RolandCollidespeople still treat no man's sky like a punching bag too saying things like "just because it's good now doesn't excuse what it was like on launch" which is the most braindead resoning I've ever heard

  • @smiidaaynerd9749
    @smiidaaynerd9749 Рік тому

    IGN has a video on the fans who still play Fallout 76, its a inside story on fans who try to make the most of the game. I think you'd find it interesting

  • @derekstein6193
    @derekstein6193 Рік тому

    28:00-28:07
    You just described the new industry standard.

  • @YhokoCaeda
    @YhokoCaeda Рік тому +1

    Oh man this was such a fun era of reddit since I wasn't interested in the game and didn't get it. So I just got to get on reddit every day and see what the newest disaster was.

  • @sandercohen5543
    @sandercohen5543 Рік тому +1

    This sort of thing almost exclusively seems to happen with big game companies, where there are either too many people making poorly-informed decisions, or because the company is simply managed by people who only measure the value of their products in how much money they make.
    It's so easy to vilify companies, but its important to remember that companies are run by *people* , and people, generally speaking, do NOT go out of their way to screw other people over, at least from their point of view.
    If your job is to market a game that you have no investment in whatsoever, aside from potentially wanting to keep your position in the company intact, why the hell should you care whether or not something is just "acceptable" , or "outstanding". Do you know the guys in the "game design" office personally? Does it reflect bad on you that the marketing ends up misleading, or actively malicious? You're just too anonymous and disposable in a big company.
    ... but *game developers* are some of the most freaking passionate, brilliantly amazing people you will ever meet, and they do not deserve all the shit they get to hear indirectly as a consequence of these little "shareholder theatrics" that certain companies tend to get up to. I guess what I'm trying to say is mainstream companies are like peacocks; trying to impress, appease and reassure their investors to invest more in them, which from the outside can sometimes look utterly ridiculous, such as with the current woke trends, which is really just companies catering to "ESG" ratings.

  • @Tommyknocker.
    @Tommyknocker. Рік тому

    Hollywood sign at the background 😵😍

  • @OrkarIsberEstar
    @OrkarIsberEstar Рік тому +1

    The hilarious part is....Bethesda games always came out totally bugged and often were never even fixed. It was the fan community that patched the games into a playable state for Morrowind and Oblivion as well as Fallout 3. 76 wasnt unusual for being ultra bugged. it was just more visible cause there were no communtiy patches fixing it

  • @jamison85
    @jamison85 Рік тому

    I was so glad that I actually GOT a refund on launch day. First got an auto-reply denying it, but I answered that with a mail saying that I had downloaded the files, but had never launched the game, and they accepted that.

    • @Danganraptor
      @Danganraptor Рік тому

      How the hell did *that* work?
      Oh, right, Bethesda.

    • @jamison85
      @jamison85 Рік тому

      @@Danganraptor I think it worked because I must have been among the first wave to actually request it. This was on the day of release.

  • @Fxrrxt2x
    @Fxrrxt2x Рік тому +2

    Even though it's not gaming related, I would really like to see you guys react to his Costa Concordia video

  • @Liesmith424
    @Liesmith424 Рік тому +1

    TFS is doing a watch through of DBZA right now, and they used a little clip from one of your reactions a one of the examples of a reaction they enjoyed for a particular moment in the series; thought you guys might get a kick out of it.
    Can't link it year yet, because it's only been released on their patron so far.

  • @alecbuxton7634
    @alecbuxton7634 4 місяці тому

    He missed out the best con Bethesda did pay an extra 100 dollars a year to play the game on a private server that wasn't private and it also steels your hard earned high level gear if you leave it in your personal storage space

  • @iklantloin4593
    @iklantloin4593 Рік тому

    the music on the background is from Persona 5

  • @michaelmccoy2384
    @michaelmccoy2384 Рік тому +3

    Seeing stuff like this happen more and more is the main reason I've stepped away from the gameing sphere.

  • @ZeallustImmortal
    @ZeallustImmortal Рік тому +2

    Great timing, I actually started playing Fallout 76 the other day.

    • @loneshinobi2682
      @loneshinobi2682 Рік тому

      I’m told it’s LEAGUES better now than what it was at launch lol

    • @ZeallustImmortal
      @ZeallustImmortal Рік тому +1

      @@loneshinobi2682 I didnt play it at launch, but it still currently has quite a few really damn annoying issues lol

    • @loneshinobi2682
      @loneshinobi2682 Рік тому

      @@ZeallustImmortal I mean that’s just par for the course with ANY Bethesda studios game unfortunately lol

    • @ZeallustImmortal
      @ZeallustImmortal Рік тому +1

      @@loneshinobi2682 One point ill give it, the community thats still active is super friendly. Legitimately havent had a bad player interaction yet.

    • @loneshinobi2682
      @loneshinobi2682 Рік тому

      @@ZeallustImmortal that’s excellent to hear, truly. It’s sad that toxic behavior bleeds into most gaming communities so it’s awesome to hear the small, niche community for 76 is a great one

  • @lucaswilson8524
    @lucaswilson8524 Рік тому +26

    I really enjoy the game now. The events can be a tone of fun especially with friends.

    • @Alyrael
      @Alyrael Рік тому +13

      Cope harder.

    • @alexreiz6128
      @alexreiz6128 Рік тому +9

      Ok Todd

    • @matthewflores4183
      @matthewflores4183 Рік тому +10

      @@Alyrael imagine acting like a cry baby because someone else likes a game you don't? 💀

    • @BerishStarr
      @BerishStarr Рік тому +3

      I enjoy it too, play with my brother now and then. A lot of fun with someone.

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames  Рік тому +3

      Glad the game got better and you are having fun with it 😊

  • @thefallofKAE89
    @thefallofKAE89 Рік тому

    I was born in 89 and didn't invest in online gaming until I was 18 when Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare released in 2007. It was a few years of playing with school friends and online friends I met. I got the hardened edition of MW2 at launch in 2009 at a GameStop midnight launch with friends and a month later sold it to a friend that was at the launch with me. If I drank like I'm doing now. I'd give him the game. I didn't need the money at the time, but he bought it fast. I can't get back into online gaming and the bottom line doesn't matter when you invest in destroying the family that doesn't want to ascend. Haha

  • @greyngo
    @greyngo Рік тому

    It's insane that the videogame industry can STILL do this.
    Movies, music, television, books, every other possible product would get called out and put to justice.
    But you can false advertise and steal people's money when making videogames.

  • @Icyangel10
    @Icyangel10 Рік тому

    I remember someone reviewing this & he was showing his POV & his wife or girlfriend's(forgot who she was) POV. One had clear or cloudy skies while the other had rain, they were standing next to each other in game & you could clearly tell the difference only happened to one of them

    • @Glenn_Quagmire
      @Glenn_Quagmire Рік тому

      Same thing happens in no man's sky to this day. Except it's worse because my friend has acid rain on his screen and on my screen there's like 2 rainbows lol

  • @spacemarineoftheimperialfi7053

    Remember to react to why you wouldn't survive gears of war locust and lambant invasion also great reaction keep up the good work ❤

  • @cosmicdraco7041
    @cosmicdraco7041 Рік тому +2

    Incredible video as always, Bethany and ken. Never played this fallout, what a total disaster. Keep being phenomenal

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames  Рік тому +1

      Lucky you never playing it. 😜 but we’ve been told the game got better over time

    • @Glenn_Quagmire
      @Glenn_Quagmire Рік тому

      This fallout in particular ended up like no man's sky. As in it keeps getting updates and it surprisingly runs better and is less buggy than the single player fallouts

  • @b3rz3rk3r9
    @b3rz3rk3r9 9 місяців тому +1

    The crazier thing about the development of 76 was that it became clear - and I mean DAMN NEAR IN YOUR FACE - that Bethesda was taking assets from Fallout 4 into the this game. Pretty much everything from building structures and general textures; to weapons, clothes items, enemy NPC's, item textures, box textures. I mean fuck, they even brought back that HORRENDOUS skin textures for humans, which look like they had blood orange skinsuits.

    • @DarkCT
      @DarkCT 9 місяців тому +1

      it amazes me that people papered over this because bethesda. I felt betrayed by companies that did significantly less than this cock-up cascade...

    • @b3rz3rk3r9
      @b3rz3rk3r9 9 місяців тому +1

      @DarkCT Tell me about it. Like, my first ever Bethesda game was Fallout 3. I loved 3 and New Vegas (yes, I know that's Obsidian), and could find some good things about 4, but I knew something was gonna go wrong when 76 was gonna be an MMO; all the time praying to be wrong. But I wasn't; Fuck me, was I right and hated being right. The idea for a Fallout game in West Virginia with all the cryptids and new monsters was interesting and fun, especially to a guy that loved cryptod stories like Me. And to hear all the crashing failures after graduating high school just made being right hurt even more, because the company that made so many fun moments for me was just going in for a quick and shallow as dishwater cash grab.

    • @DarkCT
      @DarkCT 9 місяців тому +1

      @@b3rz3rk3r9 I can imagine, the company that made some of the things you loved most crashing is what tore me from buying into brands.
      for me it was Blizzard. I played the earlier games with my dad, but he didn't get to see just how many ways they yanked the chains of their fanbase, especially diablo and starcraft. I have kept myself from their games because of how bad they were handling things before they decided to functionally snap a classic like warcraft 3 for profits.
      But modern companies know that most people are fickle and short of memory and sight, soo.... doesn't matter what they've done in the past "it's fine now". I disagree. Bethesda thought this was a good thing to release, and messed up in all of these ways. at that point you'd have to do a series of stellar games for me to even think about trusting you if you were a game studio. many people however? nah. still gonna buy.

  • @DoomyRei
    @DoomyRei Рік тому

    I Remember it like it was yesterday

  • @llraijinll5753
    @llraijinll5753 Рік тому +1

    There should be a video called "THE METEORIC RISE OF DEFINITELY NOT DEFINITIVE, THE COUPLE WHO ABSOLUTELY FUGGIN TOTALLY 100 PERCENT ROCK!! 😊❤

  • @Marquee_Gaming88
    @Marquee_Gaming88 Рік тому +1

    I deleted the game literally and never looked back

  • @matthewflores4183
    @matthewflores4183 Рік тому +3

    Just to let everyone know this video they reacted to is 3 yrs old and ever since then 76 has gotten better and better.

  • @acephas3
    @acephas3 Рік тому

    Yeah…You NEVER, EVER buy a Bethesda game the same year it launches. You wait a year, let the modders do their job, let most of the bugs get fixed, and you wait at least 7 patches.

  • @WallNutBreaker524
    @WallNutBreaker524 10 місяців тому

    "It Just Works"

  • @GiantEyedSquirrel
    @GiantEyedSquirrel Рік тому +1

    Even if they update it into a serviceable game. I would never give my money to crooks who disdain my time and presence. A very different feeling compared to No Man’s Sky.

  • @j3pelfrey
    @j3pelfrey Рік тому

    This is a blueprint for how to never launch and market a game. It is almost like someone high up in the company was trying to drive the stock price of Bethesda tank by deliberately doing everything wrong.

  • @snakekingblues3017
    @snakekingblues3017 Рік тому

    idk how any company can be this open about how scummie they are and can ever be trusted again

  • @derekstein6193
    @derekstein6193 Рік тому

    He left out the $100 subscription service they later put out.

  • @timokampwerth1996
    @timokampwerth1996 Рік тому

    Welcome to the infinite Circus that is the Bethesda Game Studios. Grab a drink, lean back and enjoy, I think you'll like the show.

  • @demonpride1975
    @demonpride1975 Рік тому

    what poed me about the atom shop was of course the prices, they could have lowered the prices to a reasonable amount, and people would have bought it. but nope they had to gouge the customer.

  • @foxleader3253
    @foxleader3253 Рік тому

    Fun fact in the game you can earn atoms for the shop but one of them is just a bad idea in general play the game for 7600 hours for only 80 atoms, with that amount of time put into it should net you a free years subscription to fallout first.

  • @neonseas
    @neonseas Рік тому

    Yeah. Started playing in 2020 when I was stuck in for Covid and I was surprised to hear how intensely messed up it was at launch. Because the game I started playing was genuinely enjoyable to explore and the playerbase is honestly one of the more fun communities I've interacted with. With people going out of their way to help newbies and make sure everyone gets a shot at nice loot, and not caring if they have to carry a group event because a bunch of baby characters show up.
    Yeah some of the atomic shop prices are a little intense but they give away plenty for free from achievements and always have a big ongoing scoreboard where you get lots of cool stuff including atoms and new camp stuff that would usually be purchased for atoms.
    Honestly people who are still shit talking it today are either completely jaded by the launch or just have a thing for being complainy.
    I completely unironically would suggest it to others if they were going to start playing now.

  • @kurosakii89
    @kurosakii89 Рік тому +1

    love the reaction, keep up the good reactions

  • @piratczvojtapopovics
    @piratczvojtapopovics Рік тому +1

    Let's not forget that the Nuka Cola edition of the Power Armor helmet caused some people to get pretty damn ill because of fungus infection. Dunno what happened exactly, but my guess is that it was made from such cheap and shitty materials that it literally caught fungus and people who wore it got sick.
    If someone knows more, or has better info, be free to correct me, I dunno everything about this little tidbit myself.

  • @SomeJerkOnTheInternet
    @SomeJerkOnTheInternet Рік тому

    It was the Failure of a gigantic AAA Company that was lying about their "mistakes"
    Not to mention the always online and 0 NPC idiocy.

    • @Frendlu
      @Frendlu Рік тому

      Was an anounced disaster. It was a bunch of bad decitions that ended with the release of F76. Not a surprise how it ended, because the did the same mistakes, maybe from Oblivion.

  • @farukmertbasyigit5601
    @farukmertbasyigit5601 Рік тому +6

    I’ve been there to witness the nuke server crash. Was pretty funny the first few times, then it got unbearable.
    So glad they saved the game, it truly is a rather unique experience.

  • @n0t_the_plague_doctor343
    @n0t_the_plague_doctor343 Рік тому +2

    The game's actually a lot of fun now! Most of the problems with the game are fixed, the player base is stable, the events are fun, the new seasons are cool, etc. However, they removed Nuclear Winter. BRING IT BACK! IT WAS FUN!

    • @thewatcher3429
      @thewatcher3429 Рік тому

      It is really not though.I takes a mind numblingly long time to level up.After playing for like a year i have not been able to finish my house(3 walls so far) because of how obtuse it is to get wood.The thing about events is that they are all level 50 plus so good luck if you are a low level player.

    • @n0t_the_plague_doctor343
      @n0t_the_plague_doctor343 Рік тому

      @@thewatcher3429 bro I have several thousands of wood scrap, it really doesn't take long. Just pick up scrap, do challenges, and go foraging occasionally. Seriously, it's not hard to build a base. Granted, I'm level 92, but seriously, attend events! They're fun and you can be carried by the high levels, while being rewarded for literally just attending them!

    • @thewatcher3429
      @thewatcher3429 Рік тому

      @@n0t_the_plague_doctor343 the only thing i got for doing a level 50+ event was gold bullion(that i can't use)a shotgun i was not the level to use and not even enough Xp to level up.Every single time i go somewhere to find wood i wind up wasting what very little ammo i have fighting ghouls and finding crap i don't need(seriously just give me wood game).Plus Chalenges take too long to do most of the time.

    • @n0t_the_plague_doctor343
      @n0t_the_plague_doctor343 Рік тому

      @@thewatcher3429 thats why you only do the fun ones! Go to scorchbeast queen, that's a good one for loot. As long as you do damage, you get mob drops. You can also see exactly what the potential rewards are for those challenges, and wood is something you can find by just marking it for search and going out exploring. There's plenty in and around the early areas, and there are perks that can increase scrap output. The early game is rough, I definitely remember being in that position. But I skyrocketed from level 20 to 50 before I even realized how much progress I was making. Play with friends, go scavenging, look for new guns, do story and side missions, etc. This game is massive, you just need to find what you like. And so what if you have a little campsite at the start? I definitely did. You don't need to shoot for massive bases right away, take it slow and methodical. The rest comes naturally.

  • @lovestospuge666
    @lovestospuge666 Рік тому +5

    It's definitely a fun game to play with your drinking buddies

  • @JoshSweetvale
    @JoshSweetvale Рік тому +1

    I didn't buy Fallout 4. My finger was metaphorically hovering over the button after the beautiful sandbox that was Skyrim.
    Then they faceplanted so very hard by even _announcing_ a multiplayer title. I _knew_ their architecture couldn't handle it.
    Starfield gonna be even worse, lads.

  • @danielruiz8259
    @danielruiz8259 Рік тому

    I recommend your this others videos from Internet Historian:
    The Cost of Concordia
    Tales from theVarus
    The Cave

  • @Tomha
    @Tomha Рік тому

    I had pre-ordered the game back then and legit regret it. I...saw signs that this wasn't gonna go well but wanted a Fallout Online game to play with my friends. Nobody I knew bought it and I ended up going alone. At first I had legit fun playing as a Bounty Hunter, going after Griefers but the fun was ruined for me when the population dropped and nobody was being bad and my last one just broke the game for me. They had this WANTED system where if you bully players and steal from their bases, you had a bounty put on you where you pay out of your own pocket, made you unable to see players on the map while you were highlighted on the map for everyone to hunt.
    There was a PVP Griefer with a massive bounty on his head, a dozen players had gone after him and died. Of course my dummy self thought "I'll be the one do deal with him. " I had a friggin Lock and Load montage of preparing my best guns, my grenades, my drugs and stimpacks and set out. The target had Power Armor so he can take a world of abuse, well I had even more abuse for him and jumped him. He wasn't tough, not at all. Infact I shredded through him easily. So what was the problem? He had that damn Immortality Glitch!
    I was so genuinely furious that I just quit. I only had fun hunting Wanted Players and the flow of that was near dry, now the PVP was glitching? It was over. They did legit fix it later on but...meh.

  • @ailospjellok7475
    @ailospjellok7475 Рік тому

    oh my god people its happening, oh god its happening, everyone to battle stations!

  • @messi1010ramirez
    @messi1010ramirez Рік тому

    As a huge fallout fan.. we don’t talk about this game lol

  • @CABRALFAN27
    @CABRALFAN27 Рік тому +1

    I'd definitely recommend the Engoodening of No Man's Sky after this one. They're basically two sides of the same coin, especially as far as the developers are concerned.

    • @bingus6978
      @bingus6978 Рік тому +2

      They watched it already

    • @Ragedaonenlonely
      @Ragedaonenlonely Рік тому +1

      Literally mentioned in the video that they watched it. Multiple times. It's mentioned in the video MULTIPLE times. Did you even watch it? I guess not.

  • @satsunada
    @satsunada Рік тому +1

    As soon as the advertising said ".. mmo game made with the Creation Engine" .. I kept my money safely in my pocket. I played enough Fallout on PC to know how large the fanmade mods are to fix that piece of crap Engine on almost all their games.

  • @stupidlizard4764
    @stupidlizard4764 Рік тому

    Fallout 76 is the reason why I scared for TES 6. If Starfield will be a successful game and not just a fallout 4 in space with fan service then we still have hope.

  • @digitalsicario
    @digitalsicario Рік тому

    That refund policy is not better anywhere else the max time for steam and Epic Games store front is 2h of play time and less than 2 weeks of "owing it" whether its downloaded or not. Some developers make the tutorial/prologue or just make the first 2h of the game grindy to get to the main game and they are unable to refund it because of the store fronts policy on return.

  • @QuestionableLifeChoices
    @QuestionableLifeChoices Рік тому +1

    i just don't understand how anyone trusts bethesda at all anymore after their responses to all this. the broken state of the game is one thing, the constant scamming and disrespect from the company is a whole nother thing. ESPECIALLY when you have tiny little hello games over there, 2 years post their own scandal and already proving their commitment to their game and their fans. bethesda literally had a perfect model for how to respond and they chose not to

  • @kellerblair2952
    @kellerblair2952 Рік тому

    This game just broke the veneer of Bethesda showing every game they ever released was a buggy mess; and it was us modders who fixed most everything.

  • @justanotheranimeprofilepic
    @justanotheranimeprofilepic Рік тому

    It honestly does make me happy that Bethesda got bought out by Microsoft. I hate corporate consolidation but it's better to keep Bethesda making games and let a parent company be in charge of interacting with the public

  • @stevenmayer8528
    @stevenmayer8528 Рік тому

    I've always wondered about Fallout 76. I never understand what happened to the quality of games going from Making sure that the game was completed before they sent it out and instead. How is it now they sent out a completely broken game, and then they sent out patches and updates and things You have to Purchase in-order to make things work.

  • @Spectacular_Insanity
    @Spectacular_Insanity Рік тому

    F76 was the most entertaining game that I’ve never played.