Gibson Les Paul Standard 60s vs Les Paul Classic
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
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00:00 Start
00:48 Clean Pickup Positions ENGL Invader 150
01:44 “Swamp Rock” Bridge vs Coil Split Hughes & Kettner TriAmp Mkii
02:54 Clean Mild Breakup Mesa Boogie Mark IIb
03:48 Hard/Pop Rock BOOSTED Marshall Origin 50
04:43 Full On Metal VHT/Fryette Pittbull Ultra Lead
07:00 Differences and Similarities
After seeing a classic honey burst in person, I’m actually digging the plain maple top more than I thought I would.
This was exactly the comparison video I needed. Great playing!
Super helpful video - many thanks!
That Full On Metal demo went hard, I just pulled the trigger on the Classic, great vid!
Just came across your channel a couple days ago & subscribed. I have to say that your videos are always high enthusiasm, high energy with great playing!
Wooooooah what a demo man! Keep on rocking!! 🤘
Wish you were in my band. Great comparison. Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. Love you all Bill.
Awesome video and very helpful...thank you!
This was such a great video, thanks
Thank you for the comparison, it is great!
I own an Gibson LesPaul Classic 2020 in Ebony and I love it .
Nice! I also have a 2018 Gibson Les Paul Classic in Ebony with P90s… no weight relief… FANTASTIC! Cheers -Ryan
Thank you! Great Video. Greetings from Germany
Man your riffs are insane!!!
Best comparison review of these two guitars I’ve seen yet. Nice job! Subscribed.
i subbed this was a bloody great vid
Awseome video thank you so much.
Thanks for giving an honest video without trying to show the world your guitar skills type of video. You show all aspects of the Gibson's. Thank you.
I have the exact cherry classic 2019.plays like butter after my setup. Great video. Ive owned stsndards too. All of them good. Take your pick
Great video !!! Right to the point !!! Thanks
Great video! I always wondered what the sound difference is, thanks for the education! The Standard sounds a bit tighter to me
I LOVE the slim tapered neck. I was playing a classic in Chicago blue at the guitar center this weekend and I fell in love with it if I didn’t just buy an SG I probably would’ve purchased that guitar.
Excellent playing
Thanx..goin with the standard!
Great sound comparisons....
It came down to the cost. They sound so similar so I bought the Classic and saved a couple hundred bucks. I’m loving it!
If the standard came in black I would by it. But yeah, I really don’t hear a difference.
I am picking my classic tomorrow. I like the slimmer neck and yes I am factoring the cost as well.
@@lawrence1960 Same. No black but all those similar bursts, is stupid.
Plus you get coil switching, phase switching, and full bypass! Booyah!
@lawrence1960 There is actually a pretty big difference in the sound. You may LIKE one or the other, but they do sounds different: Classic - more of a typical bright sound with a hint of the Les Paul body to it. Standard 60s - the definite Les Paul gerneral dark low end tone, just a bit brighter than the 50s. A little easier to add some low end to the Classic (especially with all the button setups) than "removing" the dark tone in the Standard (both neck and bridge are quite full and dark) if you want/need to play a variety of tones. With the Standard you are kind of "stuck" with the Les Paul full dark tone... which is simply brilliant, but you're stuck with it.
Thanks for all of those details! You're video was the only one I could find that actually goes into details about exactly the suttle difference in the necks everything. Great video! I have the classic and love it! I'm about to order the Standard 60s one for sure now to add it to the collection.
i ordered the 60's and just love it .... except .... the tuners .... so i changed to the deluxe tuners ... it fit the same bottom holes ... it matches the 50's except the colors they both just KICK a*
Such a great video & review with all bases covered (adding the 'Joe Walsh' sound was inspired & something I haven't seen elsewhere, and while I'm not an out and out fan, it definitely worked). Excellent playing & editing too!
I went for the Honeyburst Classic and am very happy with it, though the neck on mine doesn't feel as slim as I'd been led to believe (which is a good thing for me). Admittedly the Classic choice was partly for financial reasons but also because of the amount of tone options and that it's really not that different from the Standard 60's.
Subscribed now and keep up the great work.
I bought one too - my first LP and I kicked myself for not buying one sooner
I went to Guitar Center again, and met up with a friend that works there. I considered the options again, and I got a brand new Les Paul Standard 60s in Bourbon Burst! I really appreciate all your videos in helping me choose! I feel like I just bought my first Ferrari. So excited about it. I also bought a Marshall DSL40. Now I should probably start sound proofing.
I really like the Les Paul standard in Bourbon burst. Gives it a very bold look.
@@CenobiteBeldar agreed, it gives me California vibes, looks sharp
Thank you ❤
That's cool. Les Paul's are sweet. Nice playing..
Damn your playing makes them both sound excellent but I lean towards the classic but again your playing! Lights out!
Love the comparison, but gotta say that metal part absolutely ripped!! 🤘🤘
I just ordered a classic today. Tried a bunch of les pauls over the weekend and it was down to the classic or 60's standard. Both were nice just decided on the easier on the wallet version
Nice! You can’t go wrong with either! What colour did your grab it in? Cheers -Ryan
I just bought a classic in translucent cherry. Mine is absolutely perfect and much better looking in person than in pictures. I really considered flame top traditional or standard models but I guess I'm bored of the same sunburst flame tops and wanted something different so went for this. All three are great sounding guitars... with very slightly different sounding pickups. I've had less Paul's with BB pros, 490's, and now the 61's. I like them all... the 490's are very warm... but 61's bright and clear. I didn't care for the BB pros much for my style playing... but they are decent too. I don't think you can get a better sounding or playing Les Paul no matter what price you pay. I play a 59 and 60's custom shop a lot too... and this sounds very similar. Interesting about the custom shops is that because the woods used on them is higher quality they are typically as light or lighter than a cheaper weight relieved guitar without having to drill holes. In terms of sound they are really close... the custom shop may be slightly more woody sounding. The classic I got is just as perfectly constructed as any custom shop I've played but I have gotten lucky. I have a couple of expensive PRS guitars too .. which I love but I think you get more for your money with Gibson... considering you can get a standard flame or classic bound USA guitar for half of what you pay for a core PRS. Again I love both but my PRS way overpriced. Oh...in terms of the classics but being hardwired... from my understanding some previous standard models have used the same wiring configuration as they are using on the classics now... because of the switching options it makes more sense... not sure it would impact the tone at all since both great quality electronics...
Replace the cream and chrome with black. Changes everything
I have a 2019 gold top classic that I love! The range of tones you can get are just fantastic. Between coil splitting, the out of phase and the bridge pickup quick switch capabilities. A great guitar for that price. I really like the slim taper neck on it as well.
I have a 2019 Classic. Superb guitar. I've had other Classics, Standards and Tributes but the 2019 Classic really is a great guitar. Very heavy through, especially as its weight relieved. Heaviest LP I've owned.
The Classic sounded better for me and the looks... It's seems to be easier to tame the standard in a mix cause has this thing: more "prominent" the sound by itself than the Standard even though I prefer the guitar mix more "sinky" and not as apparent as most today think it's better, but by itself it seems at first sight to me that the classic version appears more and in the mix I think it's easier to "sink" a prominent guitar in the mix than by using a bunch of plugin or equipment to make it more "lively" if you like.
Very well done video and comparison. I liked the sounds and commentary. My humble addition here is if a person has the Classic and wants a beefier sound, simply raise the bass side of the bridge pickup. I suggest only in very small increments and then test. The low resonance will quickly fill in. Happy playing.
It would give it more attack and output, that's for sure. I guess you could equate that to "Beef", or as they say ing France: "Boeuf". Same with any guitar. Would also depend on your picking hand and strings can hit the Poles and give it a squeaky sound. Cheers -Ryan
Has anyone tried just putting covers on the pickups too?
Look like a salesman sounds like a shredder!! Well done mate!!
Classic for me!
Thank you for comparing the two guitars,I,was looking at. Trading in my j45 and think the classic is perfect.
I have the same classic . Love it but the 61 burst bucker in the bridge is really spikey. I tend to play in the middle position with the neck rolled down to thicken the bridge up a lil when i dont wanna adjust my. Amp and pedals. I play it through a marshall jvm wich can be a bright amp so i gotta turn the gain down and darken it u p a lil .love the channel .dude you are a awesome player love the riffs man the best on utube. Your solo work slays man . Keep it heavy. I am gonna lower the bridge pick up in mine and try that.
Standard has more unique to LP vibes to my ears. This video helped my choice between the two.
Those guitar are killer !!
Just copped the classic in Ebony and cream, waiting for it next week!
Nice! I really like the contrast of the Ebony and Cream! Congrats! Cheers -Ryan
How'd you like it?
If I was going to do Ebony and Cream, I would probably swap out the nickel accoutrements for gold plating. That’s just my preference.
@@gibsonfan159honestly it played really well! The black attracted a lot of finger prints and scratches tho so it’s more of a pain to keep clean.
I’m considering the Classic 🤘 this is definitely the BEST DEMO I’ve seen for any Gibson Les Paul!
not really metal guy but really like your reviews you helped me pick out the les paul classic I just bought thanks a lot
Glad they helped! Enjoy the new Guitar! Cheers -Ryan
Recently bought a 2022 Classic but had to return it as the frets were definitely NOT medium-jumbo. A bit more time in the store would have highlighted the fact that string bends above 12th were so difficult because my fingers were dragging on the fingerboard really badly. I tried to live with it for a couple of days but it was just never going to work. So, I took it back and the guys in the shop totally agreed - lots of WTF faces. They had an Unburst 2022 60s Standard which I decided to try for comparison - it was perfect. So perfect in fact that its now in my house.
Yeah. I much prefer jumbo frets.
Would like mine refretted stainless frets.
Best comparison on UA-cam I ve seen so far and very well edited. Your playing is really great too, which helps a lot to really hear the difference in tone. To me the 60s was slightly more satisfying to my ear. I own the 50s Standard in TB and love it. Can hardly put it down because it’s so much fun and I am surprised how comfortable the chunky neck feels. I am more into clean blues sounds where the 50s really shine in my opinion while the 60s is more aggressive and thus better for heavy riffs. The 50s standard has become Number 1 guitar in my collection by far. Totally worth the money but you have to like the chunky neck, that’s for sure.
i cant decide between the classic and 60s standard right now. to me the 60s standard sounds chunkier, which i like more. but it costs 500$ more :( i dont get where the sound difference comes from and wonder if it would be possible to make the classic sound chunkier/like a 60s standard
@@VoiDukkha A lot of it comes down to the weight relief and the way the wood resonates. The classic is an amazing option if you're seeking best bang for buck. The standard is just simply the standard, unless you're getting a custom shop which nowadays is over 6 grand minimum
I just LOVE that you look like you stepped out of your van after playing a round of golf and METALED OUT! YES!!! HAHA! Great review! :)
Dressed like he just finished brunch at the local country club while chugging sick metal riffs. Bad ass.
I do live just off of a Gold Course... I'm sure I can be heard on the 9th Hole. Cheers -Ryan
Coil Split means only 1 coil is on (strat type). Coil tap cuts the power down with no split which sounds more like a p 90.
I kinda liked the Standard sound ever so slightly more. Great playing Ryan. Thanks
Also! Which would you say is closer to the Tribute neck carve you just bought? I have the 2021 Tribute also in Tobacco Burst and I was curious about the difference from the Classic.
The Tribute has a rounded neck carve… which is thicker. Closer to the 50s style. The Classic has a slim taper (thinner) and the 60s is slightly thicker than the slim taper. They are all quite comfortable. Cheers -Ryan
This is the exact comparison I was looking for, best side by side demo of these two. Honestly, with both using the 61 R/T pickups, I can barely hear a difference, though the standard was maybe a bit warmer, possibly cause of the pickup covers. I got the standard 60’s because I really like the finish mine came in and wanted a guitar with more traditional features but man it’s a tough choice, the classic nearly the same, and more tones for $500 less.
I totally agree. Classic has more pickup configurations with coil split in/out phase, and tone bypass.
@@judeconig9324 its not necessary, deludes the electronics and kind of defeats the purpose of why you would want Les Paul in the first place.
if you want the single coil sound just get a fender
@@penoyer79 tell that to Jimmy page. Jimmy page wiring gives you so much versatility
@@penoyer79 How does it defeat the purpose? You still have the HB tones, plus some additional ones too, no-ones took the classic sounds away. And a coil tapped LP is never, ever going to sound remotely like a Fender.
No pickup covers and weight relieved semi-hollow body will not sound exactly like the Les Paul sound, but it does come very close.
Great review and excellent playing! What are the weight differences between them? Do you know? :)
Classic is around 4.7 kg or 10.4 lbs
60's is around 4-5.5 kg or 9-12 lbs
Weight varies as all woods are different. Generally speaking the classic is lighter due to the weight relief.
Awe man, I tried out both and was close, but i bought the Classic and absolutely love it.. its a little bit lighter with weight relief but is still definitely a les paul. The ability to split coils is not really my thing, however, they work well and gets some versatile sounds.
i v heard some youtube videos and notice that classic is cheaper and sounds better
haha
thanks for video
Standard ❤️
I thought the classic sounded better than the 60's standard in every department. Much tighter, more crunch. I Liked them "presence" of the sound. Shame about the weight relief. I'd love to hear one that didn't have it.
Great video, very informative.
Cheers
Andy
i have one.. non weight relieved but it has p90..
Classic 🥇🥇🥇
Thanks for the video . Both guitars are nice . I like the coil split on the Classic but endded up buying a used 2019 60s standard for 1730.00 delivered . The guitar was mint , set up beautifully by previous owner and a joy to play . Coil splitting wasnt a deal breaker as my main gigging guitar is an American elite tele with s1 switching which does everything from jazz to classic rock to country . If I were to play stricktly classic rock sets I would definitly prefer the 60s standard . This guitar has amazing tone and sustain but is a back breaker
You won't miss the coil tapping...it really sucks in Gibson guitars. I bought the classic and love it... but the coil tapping on it is almost useless compared to what's on my PRS guitars...
Awesome video they Classic sounded better or at least super close in all cases, and has more versatility, so (price being no factor for me) I went with the Classic. Thanks for the awesome video.
What tune are you in ? Thanks for sharing.
Great video my friend! Best comparison I’ve seen so far...Really wanna get the classic and I wanna put some nickel covers on it but I’m afraid of the size of the cover turning out to be wrong and I don’t know how to apply them.. any idea on what I should do ?
I’ve added covers to 2 of my Gibsons. It’s pretty easy… I think I even have a video on it. I’d recommend buying the Gibson Branded covers. They fit perfectly. It sucks when you order covers and they are off by a hair. Cheers -Ryan
Awesome review my friend
What model you’ll take If you must choose only one ?
Standard 60s for sure! I prefer the feel of the added weight and tend to not use the extra features of the Classic. But still LOVE the classic! Cheers -Ryan
The Standard just seems to have slightly "bigger" sound with distortion, just fuller mid/bass spectrum...Not a massive difference though. I had a Classic a few years back it had the 57 classic pickups. It was definitely brighter than I expected.
Interesting. I preferred the Standard for the cleans, and the Classic for the high gain tones.
Classic doesn't have the metal case on the pickups probably the reason, they should have same pickups. I also prefered the classic on the over driven tones. On the clean tone, the differences in wood will be more noticable.
Tried both the only thing put off by the classic was the push pull buttons
I have a sea foam green classic and it’s ridiculous. I love the zebra pickups . I like that classic color though. That’s a hard choice to make.
Nice playing and props on the sound quality! I have a Unburst 60’s. I owned a 2013 studio that didn’t stay in tune at all 😠, for $1,500+ I expected better 🤷🏾♂️. So I gave Gibson another chance and I’m pleased with this one(the weight though 🥺). I’ve always had been a Fender and PRS player. I love my DGT and S2 Thinline 594, the later very light. But nothing beats the Gibson tone.
Hi, loved the video, I currently have a LP 2017 standard, with weight relief, push pull knobs AAA finish. I am considering another LP,, would you recommend this LP standard you have reviewed or something else.? Your advice would be appreciated. Many thanks
Thanks! You’d really have to try it out. For some the weight isn’t that comfortable. Personally, I prefer non-weight relieved Les Paul’s. otherwise I’d say to look into the classic series. It would be much closer to your Standard. Best of luck! Cheers -Ryan
Many thanks for your advice, Although not. particularly a Slash fan I had been considering a Slash LP. as well. But haven’t had the chance to see one or try one at the moment. That also has a AAA finish
the heavier the music the better the classic sounds
2021 Classic ebony for me. The minuit difference in tone comes from the wiring.
I'm thinking about changing to a classic hand wired set up, I don't use my pushpulls.
I think the classic would overtake the standard without the PCB board in all aspects.
I also prefer the solid color to the flame bursts.
Money had no bearing on my choice.
I bought the Classic! It’s a fantastic guitar!
Congrats! What finish did you get? Cheers -Ryan
I went to the Guitar store to buy the Les Paul Studio, and guitar guy has made me feel less than and that I'm wrong for not to investing into a Les Paul with binding. So, now I'm considering the Classic or Standard. I always wanted a real deal Gibson Les Paul, but didn't have the money until recently. I've always had 2nd tier guitars like Schechter or Epiphone. Thanks for the video.
Man... I have 11 Gibson Les Pauls... they are ALL great! I prefer a bound neck as it feels more comfortable to my hands... but unbound necks aren't uncomfortable! In all honesty I'd play a Studio, Classic, and Standard... maybe annoy that "Guitar Guy" for an hour or two... and get what is comfortable for you. and what you can afford, of course. Studios are great guitars, resale value sucks, but still great guitars! Best of luck! Cheers -Ryan
Ain’t nothing wrong with Epiphone’s my man
@@benallmark9671 no there is not. I recently bought a Epiphone Firebird. It absolutely Rocks!. There's something special about actually having a Gibson. As of tonight I now have 2.
Hate to say it as I’m on the cusp of ordering a Standard but the Classic sounded better in every clip to my ears. The standard sounded a bit fuller my comparison…not sure if its just the covers?
Deep purple is calling my name 💜
Clean - Standard
Gain - Classic
UPDATE: I love the LP Standard 60s. It's become my go to guitar. I couldn't shake the feeling of also wanting a LP Classic. I bought an LP Classic tonight from Sweetwater in Green Ocean Burst (a limited edition Sweetwater exclusive color). Should be in my hands in the next 3 days. The spec sheet says the guitar weighs 10lbs. Are all classics weight relieved or do you have a different LP Classic?
I have 2 Classics… one that is Non-Weight Relieved with P90s and one that is 9 Hole Weight Relieved (The one in this video). Your Classic is 9 Hole Weight Relived, you should be able to see it in the specs. 9 Hole isn’t light, just a bit lighter than Non-Weight Relived. The 10lbs is probably shipping weight, which includes the case, goodies, and box. Congrats on the new Classic! Cheers -Ryan
Congrats! Any thoughts on the LP Standard 60's vs. the LP Classic? Thx!
Idk that standard just stands out to my ears personally, both sound great but man that standard. I must own one lol
The Classic is brighter and ballsier. More modern sounding than the Standard. I personally prefer the classic’s tone.
Here's a dumb question from someone who has only played single coil Fender pickups. Is it possible to put a cover over the the Les Paul Classic humbuckers or would I have to completely replace them?
Not a dumb question at all. You absolutely can put covers on the pickups! Gibson sells the covers… you just need a bit of wax and a soldering iron! Cheers -Ryan
Thanks man I appreciate it!
Both are instruments of bold expression. Honestly they both did things better than the other one. The classic seems to metal better, the standards rock better. I went classic ebony
Great Video! I have a :
2020 Std 50s. Hands down # 1 for me
2019 Classic Honeyburst. Tied for 2nd with the Traditional
2014 Classic Ebony. ( with the weird boost instead of the 2nd tone) Last place but still love it.
2011 Traditional.Tied for 2nd place with the Honeyburst
2008 Std Ebony. 4th place
I’ve tried 3 times to get pickup covers for the 2019 but they’re always like a micron off. Any suggestions there?
Thanks.
Honestly if you are getting the Gibson Branded covers they should fit. I’ve always been told that most other covers are a hair off. How is the 50s std compared to the traditional? I keep thinking about either a Standard 50s, ES 335 Figured, or an American Original 60s Jazzmaster… but the Traditional was technically remade as the Standard 50s… but the neck is slightly smaller, I believe. Cheers -Ryan
I got a 2004 Classic. No weight relief,slim taper neck,and 496 pu. She is my #1.
Nice! I don’t mind the 9 Hole weight relief… but… I also have a Non-Weight Relieved Classic and it is Magnificent! Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar I actually just got her refinished by Starr Guitars in Winter Park FL. Kip did a sweet 70’s style teardrop silver burst on her and I had a pair of Zebra humbuckers made by Singletone pickups in Orlando. She looks and sounds great!
A 2004 Classic does have modern 9 hole weight relief
The 60s standard seems louder and more rock and roll despite having the same pickups. Also it seems it’s easier to play 😮
Does the weight of them have difference?
Standard is iconic as always but the Classic is fire 🔥
Is that 60’s this model ?
LES PAUL STD 60S OLT
Im looking at this model at guitar center in trans blue and really like but wanna make sure is the exact one you playing cause i love the sound
Yes it is a Gibson Les Paul Standard 60s. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar wait though the one model im looking at is an epiphone though. The one im looking at is on special for $520 at GC. Is the sound between the Epi and the Gibson a big difference? I want a true rich thick tone like the one you getting on here especially that classic now that i pay close attention to it damn! Should i wait and save for an actual Gibson?
Best advice I can give would be to try both of them in store and make your decision based on that. Personally, I've never really been able to bond with an Epiphone. BUT there are lots of people that like them. There's no real right or wrong. Best to just try them both for yourself. Cheers -Ryan
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The classic has more clarity and bite, especially in high gain you can really hear the voicing come to life as to where the standard 60s got a little muddy in the low end. So is it the modern vs older style wiring and caps, or those nickel plated covers lol… I’m leaning towards the caps and wiring.
Versatility of tonal capabilities and sleek neck profile makes the classic an all genre shredder hands down.
Capacitors don’t affect the sound until the Tone Pots are rolled back. If the Tone is set to stun (Full Blast/10) the Capacitors do not come into play. The wiring isn’t really going to affect the sound, either, unless is was 50s wiring… and at that point it would still only be affected when tone and volume are rolled back.
Pickup covers can affect the sound minutely. We’re basically looking at amount of Wood here. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar So how you explain the tone being so different?
Amount of wood… try both in a store and you will hear a difference, acoustically. Same thing translates plugged in. To say that the capacitors change the sound when they aren’t in use doesn’t really make sense. Wiring would only come in to play if it’s a hot shot that is wired directly to the bridge pickup… it would make it hotter. Try it for yourself in a store… grab a weight relieved, non weight relieved, and a satin finished Les Paul… you will hear differences. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar pickup cover also impacts sound.Many tests show that
Yeah for sure… sometimes they can add a bit of resonance to the sound. That is why I mentioned it as a minute affect on the sound. Not as much as amount of wood and density of wood. I’ve got a Gibson Flying V ‘98 that has the same pickups as my Gibson Les Paul Custom and the wood in the V, even thought it is lighter, is possessed haha. It’s got a TON of Resonance to it. The finish on it was a little lighter as well, which will add resonance. I’ve never been into the “Tone Woods” debate… Im not talking fret board material or anything… but The Sound and Feel of wood makes a hell of a difference! Cheers -Ryan
To me, the difference is that the Classic has more of a semi-hollow body sound. Which makes sense right? Semi-hollow guitar have always sounded a bit 'sweeter' to my ears and this comparison highlighted that very well. The Standard had a bit more bass and punch to it, where the Classic just sounded smoother and had a 'clicky' quality when plucking the strings. I already had the Classic Ebony. I just like watching these comp videos
It's slight, but the classic has a cleaner sound. Remove the cream and chrome, blacken it, and it changes the look. The standard price is unjustified
I can't find a gibson les paul standard 50s or 60s anywhere. I am able to get my hands on a Classic though. Classic is 2859 CDN and the tribute is 1599. I am trying to justify the extra price tag. I assume I cant go wrong splurging for the classic? It appears there is a lack of high end gibsons around. If you weren't overly concerned with the difference in price would you get the classic over the tribute any day of the week?
If you’re in Canada I’d recommend trying a Stock Transfer from Long and McQuade. There are a few 50s/60s in Western Canada. Usually takes a few days to transfer stock. BUT as far as the Classic and if it is enough to justify the difference: Yes! The 9 Hole Weight Relief is well balanced with weight, rather than super light. The Slim Taper, bound neck is extremely comfortable. You have Push/Pulls for extra coil options, phase, and the bridge full blast mode. And of course Full Nitro, rather than satin. I also own a Tribute… very comfortable guitar as well. BUT I do have to say I tried out 4 and only liked 1. But that’s me. Cheers -Ryan
Perfect comparison !
I have the classic , I never get the differences by the specs but by your video I can hear some small difference in the clean and light crunch
I can hear less definition and a more round sound and less brighter sound in the standard and I do like it more
Distorted they do sound the same
I don't think it's the weight relief, the difference
I guess it's much more coming by capacitors and electronics , I would say I like more the standard on cleans/crunch but classic could come out easily in a mix , innit ?
I also would say the only cool future of the classic is the bypass to the straight to the bridge ...I remember when people were telling me to bypass the tones and to go straight to the jack output , that's cool
phase and coil split are stupid fancy not useful things for a LP , better to use another guitar to sound like that
Capacitors don’t come into play until the tone pots are dialed back. So if the tone is on 10, like in this video, the capacitors aren’t in use. The electronics here wouldn’t really come into play all that much. Cheers -Ryan
Classic’s tone is better than Standard for heavier music as hard rock or metal, but Standard’s tone is better for kinda blues
I own both of them, too. I have a 2021Tri-Burst 60's (GC Exclusive) and a 2021Honey Burst Classic. Their necks are stamped a couple of weeks apart. I basically ran into two VERY good deals, virtually back-to-back, at two different local Guitar Centers. Honestly man, the necks feel THE SAME to me. They really do. I too prefer the aesthetic of covered pickups, and I did leave the covers on my Classic's Burstbuckers after I covered them up. I also swapped out the plastics on both instruments for black plastics, just because it's what I prefer to look at. Anyway, one VERY odd thing about my Classic is its weight. Man, I haven't actually weighed it, but so help me God, it's HEAVIER than my Standard. You've got me thinking, after watching this, wondering... Heh. Is it possible, with its neck profile and weight, if, in the factory, before my Classic got its maple top, if it began its life as a Standard and ended up with a plain maple top and PCB wiring in some kind of mix up? Through my gear and to my ear, both guitars have two very distinct voices, but play virtually the same. I treat them as though they're extensions of one another.
Do you have different styles of music which you like to play with each one?
Classics don't have weight relief. Standards usually have 9 hole weight relief
Other way around. Pretty quick to go to Gibson’s website to double check, if you doubt it. Cheers -Ryan
@@ryj2848 Not really, man. It just depends on my mood.
@@Crypticmaskguitar - Thank you. Yep. Which is what makes the crushing weight of the Classic so mysterious to me. I suppose, it could be such a heavy piece of mahogany that even weight relief couldn't help it.
I'm really stuck at which one I want to buy. Can anyone tell me is the weight relief really noticeable between the guitars??
It’s minimal weight wise. You might be able to feel a slight difference when playing… but it’s such a small difference. Cheers -Ryan
I gotta be honest, if I didn't already have an R8, and was on the market for a Gibson USA Les Paul, I'd probably get the Classic. Sure, it strays a bit from the classic (no pun intended) Les Paul formula with the weight relief and push pull pots, but it's a handsome, traditional-looking LP with some fun features under the hood. The Original Collection model does not justify the markup imo.
I have a 2023 honeyburst Les Paul Classic thankfully the guitar snobs think it's less of a Les Paul than the standard, yay! I got mine for a bargain price.
The classic is a Les Paul standard with extra voicings so what exactly is wrong with that?
When did you last hear at strat player say I wish my guitar had a three position switch like they used to be instead of a five position one.
I prefer my Standards over my Classic here... but I've never thought that the Classic was "Lesser". It's a feel and preference kind of thing. I've always been confused over the price difference, to be honest. It makes no sense at all... The classic has 9 Holes drilled into the body for a little bit of weight relief and it has PCB for the push/pulls. That really shouldn't justify THAT MUCH of a price difference. I REALLY hate the snobbery, though. I at one point had that "Snobby-ness"... I'm so grateful that I snapped out of it after a year to two! Cheers -Ryan