🍎 New Lucy Glo Apple, Is It Good? Review and Comparison 🍎 🍌 👎
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Reviewing the Lucy Glo Apple, a new pink fleshed apple in supermarkets. Comparison to some of my red fleshed seedlings. I figured out what the weird taste in this apple is, over ripe banana. I've actually never tasted that in an apple before. One of my least favorite flavors in an apple is banana. I don't like bananas. I can tolerate some banana flavor in an apple, but not a lot and I just don't enjoy it. But overripe banana is much worse. This tastes like a banana that has gone beyond just soft brown ripe, into the funk zone. Understand that these are probably poor examples of this variety. It can probably be much better, even very good or excellent. A major problem with modern commerical apples is that they have to perform in a modern commercial setting. They have to develop well, store well and taste at least okay. The batch I picked these out from had poor red flesh development, looked bad and these two taste bad. I took a bite this morning and that overripe banana flavor lingered in my mouth until I drank some water. My own red fleshed apples may suffer similar issues when attempting to plug into the modern supermarket paradigm. Especially regarding red flesh and flavor development, which is generally highly variable. One of the challenges in brining RF apples into the modern food paradigm will likely be breeding for consistent flesh color and flavor on top of all the other criteria. Ideally, we would subvert and replace that model by making different food choices, where food comes from sources closer to us geographically, without all the transport and storrage. For instance, breeding winter ripening apples for regions like mine, where the apples can be picked and delivered fresh off the tree through the winter.
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Can't wait to hear that name! Excellent job as always Stephen, of critiquing apples. It's nice being able to trust your strict judgment.
Can't wait Steven, always enjoy tasting videos! Looking forward to the scion season!👍
Sounds like redfleshed apples are going to have a marketing problem. Maybe the growers will need to have two brand names to sell under, depending on whether the redfleshed traits express well in a given year.
I would guess that more reliable and consistent varieites will be forthcoming eventually.
When will youtube support smell and taste already!
Hoping 2023 is the best year for you in every way Steven. Cheers!
thanks :), you too.
Love that your opening graphic before clicking looks like a Playstation 1 game. No idea if that was intentional, but more people should do it lol.
Interesting update. I like the small updates.
would love to bid on a scion of your new winner RF...trying to stay on top of your latest and greatest for my little orchard : )
I have tasted lucy glo, and lucy rose quite a bit here in michigan. Lucy rose to me lacked in flavor and was almost a glorified honeycrisp with spotted pink flesh. However lucy glo, is incredible at its best. It doesn't keep well, flesh turns mealy after short storage. I've had many that had no berry flavor with even more red development then in your video. Where I have had some that had more berry flavor then I have ever tasted in a apple. At its best I haven't found a apple I like more, at its average I'd rather just eat a fuji. But that's how apples work, I'm sure if you had a tree of it, you would be able to control it better then the commercial operations. However it'll probably be years before these varieties are available for us to grow. Just my 2 cents. Good video as always! Merry Christmas man!
I think it is going to be a challenge to breed RF apples that will perform consistently. There is hardly a more important characteristic than that for the industrial paradigm.
@@SkillCult what's interesting is that not all red flesh varieties develop into the red flesh. My niedzwetzkyana tree, the apples are red inside right away. Not sure why but it is the only variety I have found to do this. It might be worth looking more into that, maybe it would be good for breeding.
What name did you pick for that red fleshed apple?
still to be disclosed...
Great video. I recently tried 2 new varieties from grocery store. Sweet tango was ok but the other cosmic crisp should be called chemical vomit apple. Nothing but foul chemical taste throughout whole apple.
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The Lucy glo I have tried taste like an jolly rancher but the cost was about 3.99 a pound. I have Lucy glo and Lucy rose now but the flavor seems to have decreased from about a month ago.
I think when anything goes commercial or into mass production it changes flavor and nutrition. Flavor is going to change with tress grown with conventional methods in mineral depleted soils. I can grow the same tomatoes that is grown commercially and people say it's the best tomato they have had. Soil heath and plant care plays a big roll in flavor in my opinion.
I had one amazing one. But others were just store apples.
I'm incredibly excited to try your apples. I'm a big fan of Lucy Glo -- the fact that it's not great in your book makes me even more excited.
I have a feeling it can be good, but I bet my newest RF will whoop it's ass :)
The fact that exterior appearance on the Lucy Glo is not perfect is a positive from a lot of your earlier concerns. Looks should be last you have said.
It depends on what it looks like. These looked kind of beat up and unhealthy.
Duuuuude id do anything for your apple! How much for one ill sign a thing saying i cant breed it or whatever 😂
The red flesh and cinnamon sound terrific, just have to get rid of the banana esters. But those esters might be useful too, maybe in a pie apple. Thanks. For a name to throw in the jar...Po-med.
Hello, Steven! We tasted Lucy Glo last year, and the flavor varies from apple to apple. At its best it was pretty tasty with a berry-like flavor, but sometimes it tasted like watered-down grape juice. Lucy Glo is supposed to be a cross between Honeycrisp and Airlie Red Flesh, but it's not as crisp as Honeycrisp. I'm looking forward to tasting fruit from some your seedlings this coming year!
If people want to breed crisp RF apples, they should try Pink Parfait. Right now, off the tree at christmas, they are super crisp and sweet. Light pink flesh, but the trait is there. Problem with them if bitter pit.
I have Pink Parfait as part of a multiple-grafted, pink-flesh apple tree. It hasn't produced for me yet, but I may plant it as a standalone tree on G.890 (or close equivalent). I planted Cherry Crush on G.890 and it took off but it stayed short and willowy. I also grafted Grenadine x Lady Williams 11/1 on G.210 rootstock this year and that sucker took off like crazy!
whats the pros and cons of tanning with bark compared to a simple tanning solution?
It's pink flesh. It's great.
2:40 I cackled aloud when you said the apple was "pretty disappointing." Having an idea of commercial standards vs. your orchard goals, I'm not totally surprised a commercial apple didn't stand up to your discerning palate.
So true, and it is really hard to get apples at just the right time. I am comparing to other commercial apples though. Pink Lady is still kind of my benchmark for stuff I can buy in the store. Opal is pretty good too. These specimens would not come close to the average specimen of most grocery store apples. They were almost bad. I'm not surprised though. There is a race to market red fleshed apples and the earliest are bound to have some issues.
The Appleoosa has more crunch
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Red flesh apple you may not have seen
“Malus niedzwetzkyana“
I know of it, but I don't grow it.
Can I buy red fleshed apples anywhere, I want to try some so bad lol
They are startin to show up in stores and should be more every year. that do3sn't mean they will be good though.
I went crazy about these and spent I think around $75 on these over the winter months... the first ones I tried a year before were hit or miss maybe half were really great, around 10-20% just blah and the rest okay first year despite them being bruised and ugly...
This past winter at the same grocer they were improved almost obviously the same apple, same size range and color tones. The very red fleshed ones were sharp flavored whereas the year before all or most of the very red ones were great... the variance was in the red ones this time the lighter flesh ones were sweeter with different notes I was looking forward to those as much despite being a sucker for anthocyninadidins lol
My impression is that this is a sub standard first generation RF apple that was rushed to market. I expect that at first. I'm sure it is great when it is in good shape, but later generations will be more consistent. If you plant one, you'll probably want to graft it over to better RF apples in a few years. But that's okay. Looking forward to trying a good one one of these days.
@SkillCult I'll have to try the ones you say are better. I just saw my pink pearl grafts and two of them took! They're among my first apple grafts and it's only my second year at grafting anything
I went around the backyard this time... I'm sure I'll be happy with the pearls they look familiar lol and then ill be more pleased after Appleoosa or some of your others come available again, and I'll grow some out from seeds... and cross those with Arkansas Black and King David which will be new to me in some years.
I just wish they could fruit in a year labor of love indeed
My experience with Lucy glo is inconsistent.
That seems to be i's MO.
Hey man, love your content - thank you! I wonder if you've heard of Devonshire Crimson Queen? Its only sold in the US by Queener Farms. Its a red fleshed apple that i think sounds very interesting and i'm growing it myself but havent tried it yet. Apparently has amazing disease resistance and other great qualities. Anyways, may be worth looking in to.
I have it growing I think, or I did. it hasn't fruited yet though. Chris Homanics had good things to say about it.
@@SkillCult should have known you'd be all over it! Are you going to make your red flesh apple (from seedling, that you created) scion available for purchase?
@@paulmontagna3996 I actually don't have a huge collection of red flesh apples. Chris gave me a lot of new ones, most have not fruited yet. That new apple won't be available this year. Hopefully by next season.
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May you continue and bring this fruit to market
If your red fleshed apples aren’t appropriate for cold storage ripening (but I hope they will be) I’m sure you can find an niche market with restaurants or bakeries.
PS- your tasting palate must be amazing- because I love a good Honey Crisp apple. I can’t wait to try yours someday
Tried some commercially grown red moon (the newer cultivar, not the old one) and it was good with lots of those interesting flavors, though for sure a bit tannic. Not as bad as some other red fleshed apples mind you, but enough that i wondered if casual people would be put off by it.
Even if there are other varieties being bred, the difference is you are breeding for people like us which is a unique niche market that is not at all touched by commercial breeding projects really. Thats the most unique thing about 'amateur' fruit and nut tree breeding in my opinion.
I got some of these and didnt care for them either. There’s also Lucy Rose which I liked better, though only 2 or 3 of the half dozen I got. They had more berry flavor, the better ones kind of reminded me of the cherry Slush Puppies I used to drink as a kid.
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Interesting, I didn't even see any this year -- they've been an October as apple usually, and when I've had them, they've been red all the way though. I just assumed that maybe they were ruined by the extended hot weather we had this fall.
Hard to say. I've found flesh color development to be very finicky and highly variable.
I'm personally a fan. Grabbed some seeds to see what happens
@skillcut a followup. All of my other seeds have germinated after a good sit in the fridge. The only ones that had 0% germination are the Lucy Glo and Rose.
This might be a clue as to their commercial placement
Hi there, I have been following your channel for several years now and it's awesome to see where your apple breeding has taken you. I actually grow Lucy Glo and Lucy Rose commercially here in Northern Washington state. Part of the problem with the apple industry is large corporate farms have mostly taken over and they can't really be bothered to harvest at peak quality because they have massive amounts of fruit to harvest. 1000 bins at 900 pounds per bin per day.
Thanks for commenting. Maybe you can shed some light, but it seems to me that red fleshed apples are just problematic. Here we have a lot of variation in red flesh development, which is not an issue in other apples. I would think that developing RF apples that will redden consistently, when at high quality, is going to take some time. Also, since the industry is geared toward early harvest and storage, isn't that also an issue with RF apples in that they would have to finish ripening and coloring up in storage?
Yeah I think you are right rf apples are problematic to the conventional apple industry that is trying to mechanize and standardize every part of the system for efficiency. I on the other hand am hopeful that in the future there will be more specialized varieties that small farmers can take advantage of to provide some variety to consumers. Who wants to eat a Gala or Fuji every time? I would like to send you some pictures of the apples we have grown the last couple years, our cold nights up here really bring that red color out. Thanks