This is sad and heartbreaking. This is why some resort to killing their parents. They can’t take the abuse anymore and they end their parents lives or themselves because they don’t have a way out or anyone to help them leave the abusive household… 😢
@@Fairydust74k even parents knowing CPS is there you will prob have the shit whooped out of you. The system is broken. They def still do that sometimes.
i have to say: i appreciate how you let the guest tell their story uninterrupted, but ask the perfect questions in the pauses. it's a great balance. somehow you always ask the exact question i'm thinking of while listening, so it's very satisfying to listen to it lol. not just for this episode but for all the episodes. thanks for making this podcast devorah! it's been so eye-opening and is one of the only podcasts i religiously consume.
Imagine going to prison for almost a year as a CHILD for trying to escape abuse. Unfortunately I’m sure jail was a much better experience to being at home…
As bad as the American punishment system is, in this case I’m sure you’re right. There’s definitely been cases of ppl purposely commiting crimes to get locked up to escape situations they’ve been in
What would she even be arrested for? Like what crime would she even be charged with? Pretty sure escaping an abuser who had been reported to the police multiple times is not a crime. Also sounds like someone in the police was either involved in protecting the cult or getting some kind of bribe out of it. I'm guessing they may have been in on the abuse also
She is so well spoken for someone who didn’t receive the proper education as a young child. Thank you for sharing your story, you’re incredibly brave and strong 💕
True! Now if only Dev would follow her lead and make this convo a little bit more interesting instead of "yup" "yeah" "right" "Hold on, gotta stroke my kitty first"
@@daixer3156 it's called active listening ... it's not Dev's store to tell ... it's Charlie's ... I think Dev did a very good job when she needed to add something ....
I've listened to about 5 episodes, and she's the only person who doesn't repeat herself or stall, so I didn't fastforward at all. Wow! So succinct and articulate.
First hand experienced s/a from my father for 10 years and when i finally told my mother, she stayed with him and then both emotionally abused me for another 10 years. I finally broke down and spoke out a month ago. I told the entire world through a youtube video. And my parents had the audacity to ask me to take it down. Because "what are people going to say" ....... when charlie spoke about her sister i felt for her.. im trying to find my reason and purpose in life. But its SOOOO goddamn hard. Thank you for bringing charlie on and shedding light to this topic..
you have nothing to be ashamed of and I'm proud of you for speaking up. you're speaking for my daughter, who's currently going through something similar via her n-mom and her step-father. and naturally CPS is useless. please don't allow yourself to be silenced, you are doing good for everyone
So proud of you! There are so many people in your position who need to hear your story. This world needs more courageous people like you to keep fighting.
always been this way and continues to be. I have personal experience and have so many clients and friends and testimonies w/ things like this. They take kids for much less and leave the children who might actually be suffering.
Also, listening to her talk about her sister was utterly heartbreaking. She sounded so incredibly strong standing up to their father so fearlessly and protecting her siblings at times, it's so incredibly sad that she lost the desire to fight for herself. No one should be in that much suffering. The fact that her evil parents were able to exist out in the world for so long with no consequences for shattering all of their lives makes me sick to my stomach.
Not even fully sure how I came across this channel, but this is my second or third vid of hers thus far & I gotta say I’m sooo obsessed w/ her demeanor & how respectful she is with letting the guests speak freely to fully tell their story uninterrupted, only asking questions when necessary for context & mostly during pauses. She seems so genuine I love her lol💓🖤
Dev, this podcast is exactly what we need. Giving people a safe platform to share their story and genuinely listen to what they have to say. It has also encouraged me to just listen once in awhile and fully hear other people’s stories. Thank you.
I’m glad she survived and is telling her story. I’m so disgusted by the negligence of the police to see children covered with blood and bruises and to do nothing is crazy the police fails victims so often it’s sad.
that broke my heart as well. it’s not even that the parents hid the signs so the police wouldn’t see, THEY DID IT RIGHT INFRONT OF THEM. the system is fucked. i’m really glad to see her living and free :)
My abuse wasn’t as bad but still abuse nonetheless and I was also running away. No one ever asked why, I was just labeled unruly. The police in my county acted the exact same way. I had ONE officer in four years that believed me and he got fired for basically taking up for me.
As a mother I could never imagine harming my child in any way, it is crazy how a religion , or anything for that matter, can override the parental instinct to care for your children
it is really painful to experience a religious deity being put before you in a child/parent relationship. My mom/dad do it to me still as a 23 year old. I’ve been trying to escape for years but the level of codependence they indoctrinate and condition us with is so disabling/debilitating.. 😞
i can’t imagine the hopelessness of calling the cops, talking to family, and more. crying out for help and nobody helps. jesus. she is SO strong. she shouldn’t have had to be, she was a kid. but she is. i’m so glad she’s still here
RIP Annie i hope your spirit is flying high above the clouds of pain you endured while here on this planet earth 🌎. Your sister described your life and reasoning so eloquently & beautifully! You would/should be so proud !!!!
Charlie seems so pleasant & strong despite all of the abuse she endured as a child. Thank you for sharing your story. I've witnessed the failure of CPS & the police in my own life, so I know how lonely that feels.
I've also been let down by CPS AND the police. And when you're a kid you don't understand how someone you love can hurt you. So me and my sisters lied about abuse because we loved our abusers. The problem is that no one dug deeper.
I literally gasped when your dad said "Am I supposed to feel bad about some dead girl?" Holy shit some people just do not deserve redemption. As a victim of SA I needed to hear this story. Thank you.
No child deserves to be spanked / hit, but this is just beyond ridiculous, So many people failed her, I’m so proud of her for being where she is in life, it’s truly amazing, Rest In Power Annie
All this is very common but it secret so people don’t know how common it is especially in religious homes. I escaped at age 25. And still have trauma. No one cares, no one believes
My Grandma told my mom this; spanking a child once is enough. Any more than that and you are taking out your anger on the child, and that isn't okay. Kids don't understand responsibility or accountability or anything really. But they understand pain. Kid hits someone? Hitting hurts. You hit their hand, the message is received. Let me tell you bro, I was a monster some days as a kid. I deserved some of those spankings and hand hits. But only. Ever. One. Hit. Kids only learn through action.
A spanking is different than abuse. When spanking stopped as a form of punishment in this country is where the snowflake generation started. Sad kids now have absolutely no respect for anyone. A spanking isn't meant to hurt a child. A spanking that physically hurts a child is abuse.
The moment I broke is 1:04:34 , when she said she decided to forgive her dad. After everything she and her siblings survived, this speaks so much of her, what a resilient and beautiful human being, I am so happy to see her alive
As someone who grew up in a situation almost identical to hers I really appreciated this video and how easily she recalls events. It helped me reconnect with a lot of my own memories.
I know!!! I am struggling unlocking my memory. What are you doing to try to te remember? I am trying to remember names of people i think also were abused at the church but left and disapeared
Same, it's so sad how many people there are out there that have dealt or are experiencing the same situations and so many turning a blind eye. I went to foster homes a couple of times only because my mom was in prison, only to be sent right back. My mom had a liver transplant about 10 years ago now but is now dying from kidney failure. After her transplant, she went right back to doing dope. Second chance at life, and she just shat on it. It's hard for me to forgive her and to see her before she dies.
How do parents,and people in general, like this exist? The true power of social media is really that people like her can share their stories and help others do the same
And Dev was closed and reserved where she couldn't do follow up questions to control the narrative or the flow of the conversation. Am I the only one that notices this??
It’s such a shame that the system fails these poor children. There are so many cases where they sent the children back to their homes, where they get abused and it almost always ends up by the parent/s murdering their children. It doesn’t have to go this far.
When I was sent to live with my dad, just before I left I started having this consistent thought that either he killed me or I would. I thought he was going to kill me. And I didn't want him to have that power over me. Maybe he would have. Maybe I was being dramatic but it was there and there has to have been a reason.
At this point I feel like we need to hold police officers, justice members, and CPS workers legally accountable in situations like these because they allowed children to go into homes where they were obviously abused. They are accomplices to assault, murder, and neglect.
This woman is an angel. Its beautiful to see how you've overcome all of that and grew be such a smart, eloquent, and courageous woman. Thank you for sharing!
I appreciate your ability to let guests speak and giving them the space. So many Podcasters almost to hear their own voice to feel valid as a podcaster...and that just isn't true. This is how you get the most authentic and coherent stories. 😊
Justice needs to be served DO NOT HOLD BACK AND DO NOT BE NICE IN CALLING OUT THOSE WHO ABUSED YOU OR WERE ACCOMPLICES IN NOT SAYING NOTHING TO WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU
7:44 she is so sweet and insightful. I am literally crying with her right now and I hold it together pretty well… My heart really really breaks for her, for she went thru 😢💔
It is so sad how her biological parents took Gods word, twisted it, and manipulated the F out of it and took it out on their children. Her and her siblings are so strong, I am happy she was comfortable enough sharing her story
I think a lot of Narcissists are drawn to cults that are abusive and encourage their members to abuse their families. It’s like they find a home there where they can get away with being abusers, and they know the cult will cover for them. SICK.
I honestly hope she doesn't go back to religion ever again. Religions prey on abused and isolated people. She suffered enough as it is. I hope she just gets to live life without any guilt of what happened to her. This stuff would have never happened if each religious individual would be closer monitored.
No child should ever be hit. As a father myself I’m disgusted by those monsters. I would never refer to them as mom or dad ever again. A father protects his children and is willing to die for them. He needs to pay for his crimes.
i kept tearing up throughout this video, what an angel charlie is. she & her siblings are so strong ❤ im so proud of her for sharing her story & courage
Yeah if only Dev would know how to ask a question when prompted like at @1:20:52. She just sits there with a blank stare and says "yup." At least ask a follow up question or act like you care about her story. Holy shit!!!
Your courage is immeasurable Charlie! The way you told your and your siblings story was so strong yet gracefull. I hope sharing this brings you some peace ❤️
Justice for Charlie and her siblings and all victims of her father who abused his power. This story is all too common in the church. Charlie, thank you for sharing and Devorah, thank you for holding space so well.
To this day my dad deny to have ever hit me, I'm 26 now and I talked about it with my mom recently and it broke my heart because she acted like it was no big deal and like she couldn't remember it ever happening, I felt gaslighted and it broke me. To know that even now no one in my family truly beleives that it happen to me. I went to therapy about it and to this day it still affect my day to day life and relationships. The abuse I went through was not as severe as the girl in the video, she's really strong and I am proud of her and her family for pressing charges againts their dad and I get the fact of wanting an apology and the frustration of no ever getting one.
The gaslighting is the WORST... I'm so proud of YOU for sharing your story/wisdom. I resonate with your journey for sure... Sending lots of love and healing energy your way ✨🔥💚🔥✨
My mom did the same to me when I told her my step-dad abused me. I don't even know what was worse the trauma that piece of $hit put me through or the disappointment I felt when my mom acted like nothing happened
Are you safe now? You know you don't have to surround yourself with people that don't uplift you. You should have never be abused. I hope each day becomes easier for you. Good luck on your journey!
Never have I been more grateful to my parents for raising me in a loving home. To think that monsters like her "parents" exist is really horrifying. Everyone in the system failed her and her siblings smh
i so far have not found any youtube abuse story that was as similar to mine in details, articulation, description of unique feelings, and spirit as this one. as someone who has also grown up in a cul and experienced every kind of abuse (physical, sexual, religious, emotional) from family members and cult members alike, she has said things in such a tangible way that is so relatable to me. growing up in a cult is such a unique traumatic experience that amplifies the other traumas and abuses one experienced by adding a unique flavor and unique set of challenges. there’s so so so many things i can add on to what she said but i’ll leave it for my own self reflection and just summarize by saying that what she said in this video is so powerful and i’d love to hear more from her.
My heart goes out to her!! You’re such a strong woman charli ! Imagine not knowing safety privacy and parental love in your own household! Thankyou devorah for providing a platform ❤️
I love her, this is so horrible. I am also planning to run away from my extremely nasty, religious, abusive parents and I am so proud of her for sharing her story with us.
This episode was actually meaningful for me in a way I don’t know how to express all the way. I often feel so alone in my trauma, and the isolation makes it so much more painful. I often feel like nobody could possibly understand or relate to my experiences, but this woman speaking about her relationship with her suicidal sister was almost verbatim what my experience was in so many ways. I feel less alone, less isolated just knowing others have had the same experiences and do understand out there somewhere. Thank you for making this.
Same with me! Families that on paper come from decent families, get passed on. I'm actually doing a presentation for the social services, on how to identify the children falling through the net. How to play the game differently, so as to get the necessary information to implement an order.
police and others did see the signs. adults ARE THE biggest monsters always. the people that show up that do nothing are the people that go home and do those same things
Understand that there is a huge amount of physical abuse in the homes of police, a much larger percentage of the general population. There's also a lot of conservative/religious ppl in the police force. There's also an ingrained "protect your own" attitude (meaning don't get ppl like you, be it cops or otherwise) into trouble no matter what they do.
I started listening to this last night and had to put it away before bed, but thinking about this story honestly kept me up at night… what a strong woman. I truly cannot imagine growing up in these circumstances. Well done Devorah
so hard to imagine going through all of this at home at such a young age… it must be hard not to break apart but find courage to battle the effects. loved how Dev went with it as the interviewer letting the guest share at her own pace. thank you girls, this was a great episode
i respect her so much for coming out of all of that so strong. her lack of resentment towards everyone who turned a blind eye to this abuse is commendable. she truly is a good person, and i wish nothing but the best for her in her future.
Charlie if you ever read this, I wanna say that it can't be easy to open up but there is for sure at least one good thing coming from you doing this, it took the whole episode almost to finally convince to let myself feel this -- but it did really help me feel ready to finally speak up for myself, both literally but also legally. Xx
What a FANTASTIC episode dev. Thank you for letting her tell her story, the things she went through is unimaginable. I can’t even believe it😭 I would love to research more on this cult.
@@Meganhaskinss dang. You sound just like Dev in her interview. Exhibit A) @1:20:53 Long pauses and long cold blank stares with no real response or questions. How does she get by this?? She really needs to write down an agenda and some questions that have a "follow the Yellow brick road.." conclusion. Cuz sweet guest was doing all the talking and when paused. Dev didn't even bother to step into it and ask important yet insightful questions aye
Her parents are evil people. Mind control doesn't make you evil, this woman is an example of that. She was raised in adversity, taught her entire life what they wanted her to believe, and she still came out with a moral compass and she is proof that no matter how deep you are in, no matter how long you've been there, you make a choice. Her parents, her father, they made a choice to be the evil people they were. If hell is a place, people who abuse children will go there.
I absolutely love your patience with your guests. You let them tell their stories. Thank you for that. People need to hear everything this woman has to say. You have gained a new subscriber. To this Charlie, thank you so much for being so vulnerable and candid with your story. So many people need to hear you speak about this. There are so many children, women, men that are in this position, and hearing this, maybe they can make some decisions to get out of this situation by knowing this is NOT okay.
I just want to congratulate this woman for doing so much work to get herself out of the hell she was living in, to persevere and prosper. I wonder if she’s ever heard the original story about the ugly duckling. In the original story, the ugly duckling is treated terribly by everyone around it (all the ducks) for being “ugly”. The duckling finally finds courage and goes exploring on its own. When it does, it finds out that it is actually a beautiful swan and all the other swans are welcoming, respectful, and loving, allowing the little swan to prosper. The story is about finding yourself through the right lens, the loving lens, the one that sees you for the wonderful individual you actually are. This girl reminds me of the beautiful swan who was so brave and courageous. I hope she is so proud of herself. ❤
Also the host does a fabulous job, I'm not saying you should never talk but it's good that you like people fully tell their stories. And Mr Tuxedo cat always warms up the conversation when needed.
Yes it can, icam! Being in a vulnerable state can take you down and out- My aunt was in a home for the elderly last year because she fell and broke a bone in her back. They did the exact opposite of care she needed to get well. Thank God she left and was able to heal at home and is now ok :(
Listening to this podcast is the only way I can get work done lately. I appreciate everyone telling their stories and how respectful you are as a host. Sending lots of love to Charlie.
Where did this occur?!? That police force and CPS need to be held accountable or at the very least- exposed so people know what they’re getting into living in that area. This is so despicable and enraging
I have just found this channel and it has been weirdly theraputic for me to know that there are other people who can understand how it feels to have been utterly neglected as children. My mother was an abusive alcoholic and I was an undiagnosed autistic trying to cope with her abuse. I was repeatedly sexually abused as a teenager and have only recently be able to confront my history. My therapist has been encouraging of me watching these videos because these people are so in tune with themselves and able to confront their pasts. It gives me hope for my future.
Heartwrenching wisdom from such a beautiful soul. This woman has a truly compassionate understanding of her own experiences and a very healthy sense of humor. I'm only half way through this interview and I can tell she has done a LOT of successful/healthy work through this
I've learned you can never make the abusers understand what they did to you. It's impossible. It doesn't matter how much you want to make them understand, they'll never do. Make your peace within yourself and go no contact. Live your life.
This story shines not only from its vulnerability but being so well told. I admire strength it required just to tell it. a poised, resilient, truly amazing woman. Thank you for sharing your experience.
I found this channel this week and I've been hooked ever since, I love listening to these videos while doing other stuff like cleaning, cooking ect. This story is so sad, she didn't deserve this. Rip Annie...
This episode made me emotional!! She and her siblings are so strong and for her to come out and talk about this and going through what she went through!! Thank you for sharing your story and you are amazing!!
You hear about these stories and think it’s all made up until you meet someone who went through it. The reality sinks in quick that there are people who go through these scenarios that live this in their live. Thank you for sharing your life with us.
I honestly hope someone from DOJ is hearing this and takes down the corrupt police dept who actively IGNORED the abuse of minor children multiple times!!!
WOW her story is just heartbreaking. This is another topic that is so important to bring to light. She is so brave to be so open to all of us. Thank you dev for giving her a platform to inform us and give people in similar situations strength and hope. (ps love the moods tee)
its awesome to see someone giving people who go through so many things such as this a platform to speak. to ACTUALLY speak, you let them be heard and tell their stories. thats really awesome of you and youre a great person for letting these strong individuals come talk.
Gaslighting, Manipulation, victim blaming. Pure narcissist. Some people are literally evil, your dad and your mom are pure evil. I’m happy you have siblings to turn too. I’m glad you are out and get to rewrite your life.
I have watched quite a few of these now. Thank you so much for shedding light on what women suffer through everyday. You manage to do it so beautifully to. I made sure to share your channel with my friends and family! I’m addicted!
Insane how this happened not even 20 years ago. Insane how many lives are taken away and time lost, during the most important years if your life they will never get back! This is a story you hear about from the 50/60’s - but to happen so often, so recent, and how many are completely just shunned by the justice system by people in power (ie: Military, law officers, govt officials, religious higher ups, etc). It is such a shame and you can only hope these monsters get what they deserve! Thank you for sharing your story!
Devorah this story was amazing . You are doing a great job with your podcast . You are Defitely perfect for this line of work. Charlie’s story is so heartbreaking. This is like the Turpin family with 13 children they chained and abused finally one child got out and got help. Both parents are in jail now where they belong.
I wanted to say I never knew someone had so close to the same experiences I did when I grew up. Growing up Mormon, my father etc etc. I’m proud of you for being here on this earth. I can understand in ways how the system let us down so many times. I was the sassy fight back one out of my other 4 siblings. Thank you for sharing your story I felt so alone until hearing your story.
In the UK, if the child is suspected of being a victim of SA or FGM - you should never interview them in front of the parents. Just standard safeguarding.
I can totally relate to her convo with her Dad. I've tried to talk to my Dad about some verbal abuse and he didn't remember the incidents I brought up and didn't believe me. He actually told me I was in my forties and should be past it by now.
Thank you Charlie for surviving and sharing your story. Especially thank you for seeking justice for yourself, Annie and your siblings. Even if nothing comes of it, you did try.
Dev I love you! ur presence is so safe and comforting. its easy to let walls down around you and connect. idk if u knew that but its very apparent in any video ive ever seen of you interacting with others and just the energy you and others around you exude! ur like a safe space for both vulnerable and fun sides of people. this is like the PERFECT passion project for you❤
I saw this video for the first time six month ago and still think about it every now and then. I would love to know if possible of any developments and if justice will be served for all the victims of this man. Charlie, you're such a brave woman and a powerful voice for survivors of abuse, and also a voice for Annie's story, bravery, and struggle. Thank you, Dev, for this important platform.
My mom wasn’t religious, but I remember at school when they teach you “if someone puts your hands on you in a way you don’t like, say it’s my body you don’t have the right to put your hands on me” and I said that to her when she beat me, she would chuckle and say “I’m your mother, I can do whatever I want to you”
I escaped from my home because of a narcissistic mother and an absent father who always stayed silent during the abuse or pretended he didnt see. Im finding my strength through this podcasts, listening to stories of people who lived similar experiences as me.. thank you so much for your work. ❤
As someone going through a sort of similar struggle at the moment, I am so grateful to Charlie for sharing her story. This podcast is going to be something I use as a conversation starter with my own siblings as we're all now adults and getting to the point when these conversations need to happen, and watching this helped me see the light at the end of the tunnel. None of us who have been through stuff like this will ever find closure from our abusers, we have to find it in eachother. Rest in peace and power, Annie
@@charlie_fornow You articulated these events so poignantly, that it had me in tears. You seem like such a genuine, passionate, considerate person and no one deserves that kind of abuse. Your strength and character really shows, and I'm glad you are still shining despite the horrible abuse you went through. Sending much love
Before I watch this- I grew up in a cult too. I’m slowly starting to believe that this isn’t as uncommon as people think. I had to leave my family at 20 (technically 19. A few days after my birthday) and with a whole lot of research and unlearning every single that I was taught since I was born. I realized that my “family” was actually a cult. It’s extremely hard to come to this realization especially if your still trapped in the situation. It scared me when my cousin mentioned that if my grandad was to tell our parents God said to kill us how they would do it bec they literally believe my grandad can speak to god.
It hurts so much to listen to this.. everything she’s saying is literally exactly what I and my family went through. The water, paddle, having to knee on the hard side of carpet holding a Bible for hours.. what god looks down at that and think “oh my perfect servant.” There was times when my mom would make us knee on rice as punishment.
there are so many stories in the bible where prophets are mass-murderers or just overall the shittiest you can be, and everytime they are being 'used by god' to 'spread his word,' that is all they do. that's all they have to focus on before being admitted into heaven and considered a literal prophet. they're not held accountable, they don't face reality, they dedicate their existence to 'spreading his message' and are worshipped for it. and I see that reflected in every abuser who uses god or the bible as an excuse and every person who enables them. those 'prophets' are just safe goats for them. i think that's how they can be so delusional to the point where they're convinced god can speak through people that shitty and they're somehow supposed to protect them. in the bible they're forgiven rewarded with heaven. the more I think about that book and what I read/learned from it growing up the more it just baffles me how anyone can follow a god like that. I'm unlearning so much as well, and seeing that you're also Black I relate even more.
Thank you so much for your story. I'm in tears because this sounds almost exactly like my story and it's so comforting to know I'm not the only one who feels these things.
46:08 wow, that was so incredibly powerful. Thank you for being so open with your past relationships and how your abuse affected you and caused you to be pulled into toxic relationships, that hits home hard. I’m still learning to stop accepting abuse as love and it’s amazing to hear another woman was brought up with the same mindset as me ❤ we have to untrain ourselves, i know it will take countless years but we’ve got this xx
She is a beautiful well spoke woman. I'm only 40 minutes in but she speaks very well for someone who is telling such a horrific past they've went through. I'm quite impressed by her, her ability to speak on it, she has a confidence in herself while speaking and I wonder if she went on to get an education because listening to her she's a bright person. I really hope she is proud of herself today, I am so proud of her.
Charlie, you're amazing. I'm glad your story came out. I wouldn't say that "being in a cult" is very common, maybe, but abusing children, be it sexually or physically, is a reality and should be correctly dealt with. The trauma you have, you will never forget, and I have to say it, but it really does suck. We should all have the same opportunities in being happy and yours was taken away by somebody who should be almost as a role model. It's not easy to speak our mind or lift a weight so big as the one that you have on your back. I don't have to understand 100% what you went through. I just hope you know that this world is actually painted in colors and not in black in white. That this world shines light, and I damn hope you realize that it's shining on you and all of your sibilings. There are some people that help can't reach. I just hope that they found clearance of mind after.
CPS interviewing kids in front of their parents is so enraging. You were failed by everyone and You got yourself where you are today 💕
Did you mean “enraging”?
They definitely don’t do that now.
At least in California.
They talk to them all separately
This is sad and heartbreaking. This is why some resort to killing their parents. They can’t take the abuse anymore and they end their parents lives or themselves because they don’t have a way out or anyone to help them leave the abusive household… 😢
@@Fairydust74k even parents knowing CPS is there you will prob have the shit whooped out of you. The system is broken. They def still do that sometimes.
I don't see how that would make any sense. Did they even study psychology??!
i have to say: i appreciate how you let the guest tell their story uninterrupted, but ask the perfect questions in the pauses. it's a great balance. somehow you always ask the exact question i'm thinking of while listening, so it's very satisfying to listen to it lol. not just for this episode but for all the episodes. thanks for making this podcast devorah! it's been so eye-opening and is one of the only podcasts i religiously consume.
I kinda wanted her to ask some other questions but this guest was ready to tell her story and did a great job she’s very strong for doing so
I completely agree, she is great at what she does!
Exactly
@@____yzzyall of her guests are like this, they’ve prepared all of what they want to say in the video so it’s better to just let them talk it all out
Yes. I was gonna say the same thing.
Imagine going to prison for almost a year as a CHILD for trying to escape abuse. Unfortunately I’m sure jail was a much better experience to being at home…
As bad as the American punishment system is, in this case I’m sure you’re right. There’s definitely been cases of ppl purposely commiting crimes to get locked up to escape situations they’ve been in
That is absolutely insane to me. They should've protected that girl
It was probably a welcomed break.
So sad, she would have then had a criminal record and that would have made it so hard to get a job, housing and even bank accounts
What would she even be arrested for? Like what crime would she even be charged with? Pretty sure escaping an abuser who had been reported to the police multiple times is not a crime. Also sounds like someone in the police was either involved in protecting the cult or getting some kind of bribe out of it. I'm guessing they may have been in on the abuse also
She is so well spoken for someone who didn’t receive the proper education as a young child. Thank you for sharing your story, you’re incredibly brave and strong 💕
True! Now if only Dev would follow her lead and make this convo a little bit more interesting instead of "yup" "yeah" "right" "Hold on, gotta stroke my kitty first"
@@daixer3156 She is letting her speak.
@@daixer3156 it's called active listening ... it's not Dev's store to tell ... it's Charlie's ... I think Dev did a very good job when she needed to add something ....
@@AnomalyArcana well swearing is baaaad . 🤬 bad in all culture. Not just cults
I've listened to about 5 episodes, and she's the only person who doesn't repeat herself or stall, so I didn't fastforward at all. Wow! So succinct and articulate.
First hand experienced s/a from my father for 10 years and when i finally told my mother, she stayed with him and then both emotionally abused me for another 10 years. I finally broke down and spoke out a month ago. I told the entire world through a youtube video. And my parents had the audacity to ask me to take it down. Because "what are people going to say" ....... when charlie spoke about her sister i felt for her.. im trying to find my reason and purpose in life. But its SOOOO goddamn hard. Thank you for bringing charlie on and shedding light to this topic..
We are here for you. Proud of you, can understand how hard it would be to share. Keep going your life is well worth it.
you have nothing to be ashamed of and I'm proud of you for speaking up. you're speaking for my daughter, who's currently going through something similar via her n-mom and her step-father. and naturally CPS is useless. please don't allow yourself to be silenced, you are doing good for everyone
I applaud you with all my heart ❤ sending you love, light and strength ❤️❤️❤️
You are loved ❤
So proud of you! There are so many people in your position who need to hear your story. This world needs more courageous people like you to keep fighting.
How horrific and to think our Justice system seems to be setup to protect this gruesome behavior
As an fan of true crime, it happens all the time, abuse is never taken seriously, or they’ll interview kids in front of parents
It 100% is. Courts hand children to their abusers on a silver platter
always been this way and continues to be. I have personal experience and have so many clients and friends and testimonies w/ things like this. They take kids for much less and leave the children who might actually be suffering.
Because they are. The world is ran by pedophiles.
@@Clownbunnycosplay “as a true fan of true crime” wow. way to make something serious unserious
Also, listening to her talk about her sister was utterly heartbreaking. She sounded so incredibly strong standing up to their father so fearlessly and protecting her siblings at times, it's so incredibly sad that she lost the desire to fight for herself. No one should be in that much suffering. The fact that her evil parents were able to exist out in the world for so long with no consequences for shattering all of their lives makes me sick to my stomach.
Not even fully sure how I came across this channel, but this is my second or third vid of hers thus far & I gotta say I’m sooo obsessed w/ her demeanor & how respectful she is with letting the guests speak freely to fully tell their story uninterrupted, only asking questions when necessary for context & mostly during pauses. She seems so genuine I love her lol💓🖤
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Dev, this podcast is exactly what we need. Giving people a safe platform to share their story and genuinely listen to what they have to say. It has also encouraged me to just listen once in awhile and fully hear other people’s stories. Thank you.
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"I'm not discussing sins, I'm discussing crimes." Preach👏🏽
I’m glad she survived and is telling her story. I’m so disgusted by the negligence of the police to see children covered with blood and bruises and to do nothing is crazy the police fails victims so often it’s sad.
that broke my heart as well. it’s not even that the parents hid the signs so the police wouldn’t see, THEY DID IT RIGHT INFRONT OF THEM. the system is fucked. i’m really glad to see her living and free :)
My abuse wasn’t as bad but still abuse nonetheless and I was also running away. No one ever asked why, I was just labeled unruly. The police in my county acted the exact same way. I had ONE officer in four years that believed me and he got fired for basically taking up for me.
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As a mother I could never imagine harming my child in any way, it is crazy how a religion , or anything for that matter, can override the parental instinct to care for your children
it is really painful to experience a religious deity being put before you in a child/parent relationship. My mom/dad do it to me still as a 23 year old. I’ve been trying to escape for years but the level of codependence they indoctrinate and condition us with is so disabling/debilitating.. 😞
It’s not religion. It’s abuse covered up with religion to make it seem okay.
I dont think they had any instincts to begin with. They just used the religion as an excuse
some people shouldn't be allowed to parent, it's something is far greater than the love for your children... you just shouldn't procreate.
some people do not have those parental instincts. some people really hate their children
Even though she says she was not well educated, she sounds so intelligent and is such a bright young woman
i can’t imagine the hopelessness of calling the cops, talking to family, and more. crying out for help and nobody helps. jesus. she is SO strong. she shouldn’t have had to be, she was a kid. but she is. i’m so glad she’s still here
I truly admire her for sharing her story with us. Thank you for giving her a platform. She is so brave❤️
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RIP Annie i hope your spirit is flying high above the clouds of pain you endured while here on this planet earth 🌎. Your sister described your life and reasoning so eloquently & beautifully! You would/should be so proud !!!!
RIP Annie ❤
RIP Annie 🤍
Charlie seems so pleasant & strong despite all of the abuse she endured as a child. Thank you for sharing your story. I've witnessed the failure of CPS & the police in my own life, so I know how lonely that feels.
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I've also been let down by CPS AND the police. And when you're a kid you don't understand how someone you love can hurt you. So me and my sisters lied about abuse because we loved our abusers. The problem is that no one dug deeper.
Appeasing your abuser(s) from childhood for the sake of your safety results in a pleasant, friendly, giggly personality, unfortunately. I would know.
I literally gasped when your dad said "Am I supposed to feel bad about some dead girl?" Holy shit some people just do not deserve redemption. As a victim of SA I needed to hear this story. Thank you.
She was nothing to him because he lost control over his slave/victim. Part of the discsrd
No child deserves to be spanked / hit, but this is just beyond ridiculous, So many people failed her, I’m so proud of her for being where she is in life, it’s truly amazing, Rest In Power Annie
All this is very common but it secret so people don’t know how common it is especially in religious homes. I escaped at age 25. And still have trauma. No one cares, no one believes
My Grandma told my mom this; spanking a child once is enough. Any more than that and you are taking out your anger on the child, and that isn't okay.
Kids don't understand responsibility or accountability or anything really. But they understand pain. Kid hits someone? Hitting hurts. You hit their hand, the message is received. Let me tell you bro, I was a monster some days as a kid. I deserved some of those spankings and hand hits. But only. Ever. One. Hit.
Kids only learn through action.
A spanking is different than abuse. When spanking stopped as a form of punishment in this country is where the snowflake generation started. Sad kids now have absolutely no respect for anyone. A spanking isn't meant to hurt a child. A spanking that physically hurts a child is abuse.
@@gregbertsch2853spanking is still hitting, it doesn’t matter where it is, you’re still hitting your child
@@gregbertsch2853spanking is absolutely meant to hurt. Why else would it be scary for a kid? Fear of pain is the entire point. It’s fucked up
The moment I broke is 1:04:34 , when she said she decided to forgive her dad. After everything she and her siblings survived, this speaks so much of her, what a resilient and beautiful human being, I am so happy to see her alive
Annie’s blood is on that despicable man’s hands, to call her “some girl” requires an unprecedented level of audacity
I don’t even have words, I hope her sister is finally resting in full serenity❤️
Devorah I’m so fucking proud of you
As someone who grew up in a situation almost identical to hers I really appreciated this video and how easily she recalls events. It helped me reconnect with a lot of my own memories.
I feel the same way!
I know!!! I am struggling unlocking my memory. What are you doing to try to te remember? I am trying to remember names of people i think also were abused at the church but left and disapeared
Same, it's so sad how many people there are out there that have dealt or are experiencing the same situations and so many turning a blind eye. I went to foster homes a couple of times only because my mom was in prison, only to be sent right back. My mom had a liver transplant about 10 years ago now but is now dying from kidney failure. After her transplant, she went right back to doing dope. Second chance at life, and she just shat on it. It's hard for me to forgive her and to see her before she dies.
How do parents,and people in general, like this exist? The true power of social media is really that people like her can share their stories and help others do the same
Holy shit. I can’t believe she was so open about this. Thank you
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I can barely watch this... What kind of man beats a child. Its infuriating to me
I'd like to spend 5 minutes alone with him
And Dev was closed and reserved where she couldn't do follow up questions to control the narrative or the flow of the conversation. Am I the only one that notices this??
@@daixer3156Was she supposed to control the narrative or allow the speaker to tell her experiences?
It’s such a shame that the system fails these poor children. There are so many cases where they sent the children back to their homes, where they get abused and it almost always ends up by the parent/s murdering their children. It doesn’t have to go this far.
It almost makes me wonder if her father had a few connections with the police department.
When I was sent to live with my dad, just before I left I started having this consistent thought that either he killed me or I would. I thought he was going to kill me. And I didn't want him to have that power over me. Maybe he would have. Maybe I was being dramatic but it was there and there has to have been a reason.
At this point I feel like we need to hold police officers, justice members, and CPS workers legally accountable in situations like these because they allowed children to go into homes where they were obviously abused. They are accomplices to assault, murder, and neglect.
Yup! But the good parents get CPS at their door for the most ridiculous reasons! It happened to me when my son was a baby 🙄
@@Lucretciela Oh he definitely did! And the "church"!!!
This woman is an angel. Its beautiful to see how you've overcome all of that and grew be such a smart, eloquent, and courageous woman. Thank you for sharing!
Wait-a minor (her sister) was in jail for a year for running away from home??? How is that even a crime?? I’m so confused.
That’s considered a truancy or something like that and because she was 17 they could tout her in jail.
Yea this is actually something that gets told to us. If you run away you will go to jail.
put a runaway in jail but not the man with beaten bloody children. there are no words to describe how much I hate those bitch cops. acab
I relate to Annie so much. RIP Annie. Charlie, thank you so much for sharing your story so candidly.
❤ please feel better 😢 there is so much more out there for you. I promise things do get better.
I appreciate your ability to let guests speak and giving them the space. So many Podcasters almost to hear their own voice to feel valid as a podcaster...and that just isn't true.
This is how you get the most authentic and coherent stories. 😊
Justice needs to be served DO NOT HOLD BACK AND DO NOT BE NICE IN CALLING OUT THOSE WHO ABUSED YOU OR WERE ACCOMPLICES IN NOT SAYING NOTHING TO WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU
I’m with you on that! Let’s put every adult who knew and did nothing behind bars!!
They think their secrets are entitlements. Sick people.
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7:44 she is so sweet and insightful. I am literally crying with her right now and I hold it together pretty well… My heart really really breaks for her, for she went thru 😢💔
Devorah you genuinely seem like the easiest person to get along with and open up to, you have such a calming and safe energy!
It is so sad how her biological parents took Gods word, twisted it, and manipulated the F out of it and took it out on their children. Her and her siblings are so strong, I am happy she was comfortable enough sharing her story
Her parents are not Christian’s and that image they tried to paint of God is so blind and false
Absolutely!!! The fact that she can"t even go to church without reliving trauma makes me so sad :(
I think a lot of Narcissists are drawn to cults that are abusive and encourage their members to abuse their families. It’s like they find a home there where they can get away with being abusers, and they know the cult will cover for them. SICK.
Religion is a joke
I honestly hope she doesn't go back to religion ever again. Religions prey on abused and isolated people. She suffered enough as it is. I hope she just gets to live life without any guilt of what happened to her. This stuff would have never happened if each religious individual would be closer monitored.
No child should ever be hit. As a father myself I’m disgusted by those monsters. I would never refer to them as mom or dad ever again. A father protects his children and is willing to die for them. He needs to pay for his crimes.
i kept tearing up throughout this video, what an angel charlie is. she & her siblings are so strong ❤ im so proud of her for sharing her story & courage
Yeah if only Dev would know how to ask a question when prompted like at @1:20:52. She just sits there with a blank stare and says "yup." At least ask a follow up question or act like you care about her story. Holy shit!!!
Your courage is immeasurable Charlie! The way you told your and your siblings story was so strong yet gracefull. I hope sharing this brings you some peace ❤️
❤ thank you so much!
Justice for Charlie and her siblings and all victims of her father who abused his power. This story is all too common in the church. Charlie, thank you for sharing and Devorah, thank you for holding space so well.
To this day my dad deny to have ever hit me, I'm 26 now and I talked about it with my mom recently and it broke my heart because she acted like it was no big deal and like she couldn't remember it ever happening, I felt gaslighted and it broke me.
To know that even now no one in my family truly beleives that it happen to me. I went to therapy about it and to this day it still affect my day to day life and relationships.
The abuse I went through was not as severe as the girl in the video, she's really strong and I am proud of her and her family for pressing charges againts their dad and I get the fact of wanting an apology and the frustration of no ever getting one.
The gaslighting is the WORST...
I'm so proud of YOU for sharing your story/wisdom. I resonate with your journey for sure...
Sending lots of love and healing energy your way ✨🔥💚🔥✨
My mom did the same to me when I told her my step-dad abused me. I don't even know what was worse the trauma that piece of $hit put me through or the disappointment I felt when my mom acted like nothing happened
Are you safe now? You know you don't have to surround yourself with people that don't uplift you. You should have never be abused. I hope each day becomes easier for you. Good luck on your journey!
Never have I been more grateful to my parents for raising me in a loving home. To think that monsters like her "parents" exist is really horrifying. Everyone in the system failed her and her siblings smh
i so far have not found any youtube abuse story that was as similar to mine in details, articulation, description of unique feelings, and spirit as this one. as someone who has also grown up in a cul and experienced every kind of abuse (physical, sexual, religious, emotional) from family members and cult members alike, she has said things in such a tangible way that is so relatable to me. growing up in a cult is such a unique traumatic experience that amplifies the other traumas and abuses one experienced by adding a unique flavor and unique set of challenges. there’s so so so many things i can add on to what she said but i’ll leave it for my own self reflection and just summarize by saying that what she said in this video is so powerful and i’d love to hear more from her.
My heart goes out to her!! You’re such a strong woman charli ! Imagine not knowing safety privacy and parental love in your own household! Thankyou devorah for providing a platform ❤️
I love her, this is so horrible. I am also planning to run away from my extremely nasty, religious, abusive parents and I am so proud of her for sharing her story with us.
I hope you get out safe and just know YOU AREN'T ALONE!!!!!
We are rooting for you!
@@emilymarquez5766 thanks my love
@@leaann4550 aww bless you hun
@@raisadrawss4190 No bless you. Really get out of there. I believe in you.
This episode was actually meaningful for me in a way I don’t know how to express all the way. I often feel so alone in my trauma, and the isolation makes it so much more painful. I often feel like nobody could possibly understand or relate to my experiences, but this woman speaking about her relationship with her suicidal sister was almost verbatim what my experience was in so many ways. I feel less alone, less isolated just knowing others have had the same experiences and do understand out there somewhere. Thank you for making this.
Makes me sick that police and others didn’t see the signs and help… sometimes adults are the biggest monsters. This makes me so angry and upset.
Same with me! Families that on paper come from decent families, get passed on.
I'm actually doing a presentation for the social services, on how to identify the children falling through the net. How to play the game differently, so as to get the necessary information to implement an order.
They saw the signs they just chose not to help. So disgusting of them
police and others did see the signs. adults ARE THE biggest monsters always. the people that show up that do nothing are the people that go home and do those same things
Understand that there is a huge amount of physical abuse in the homes of police, a much larger percentage of the general population. There's also a lot of conservative/religious ppl in the police force. There's also an ingrained "protect your own" attitude (meaning don't get ppl like you, be it cops or otherwise) into trouble no matter what they do.
listening to her story makes me realize how i usually take my life for granted....you are so strong and brave Charlie ❤My heart goes out to you
I started listening to this last night and had to put it away before bed, but thinking about this story honestly kept me up at night… what a strong woman. I truly cannot imagine growing up in these circumstances. Well done Devorah
So many cults, too many cults and they all seem to so abuse their kids. So sad. Charlie is so brave.
so hard to imagine going through all of this at home at such a young age… it must be hard not to break apart but find courage to battle the effects.
loved how Dev went with it as the interviewer letting the guest share at her own pace.
thank you girls, this was a great episode
i respect her so much for coming out of all of that so strong. her lack of resentment towards everyone who turned a blind eye to this abuse is commendable. she truly is a good person, and i wish nothing but the best for her in her future.
Charlie if you ever read this, I wanna say that it can't be easy to open up but there is for sure at least one good thing coming from you doing this, it took the whole episode almost to finally convince to let myself feel this -- but it did really help me feel ready to finally speak up for myself, both literally but also legally. Xx
What a FANTASTIC episode dev. Thank you for letting her tell her story, the things she went through is unimaginable. I can’t even believe it😭
I would love to research more on this cult.
Just attend your local JW church. What better way to learn then first hand
@@daixer3156 I am not interested 😐😐 lol
@@Meganhaskinss dang. You sound just like Dev in her interview.
Exhibit A) @1:20:53
Long pauses and long cold blank stares with no real response or questions. How does she get by this?? She really needs to write down an agenda and some questions that have a "follow the Yellow brick road.." conclusion. Cuz sweet guest was doing all the talking and when paused. Dev didn't even bother to step into it and ask important yet insightful questions aye
@@daixer3156 what do you mean by that? Why would I ever want to put me or my children through something so evil?
Her parents are evil people. Mind control doesn't make you evil, this woman is an example of that. She was raised in adversity, taught her entire life what they wanted her to believe, and she still came out with a moral compass and she is proof that no matter how deep you are in, no matter how long you've been there, you make a choice. Her parents, her father, they made a choice to be the evil people they were. If hell is a place, people who abuse children will go there.
I absolutely love your patience with your guests. You let them tell their stories. Thank you for that. People need to hear everything this woman has to say. You have gained a new subscriber. To this Charlie, thank you so much for being so vulnerable and candid with your story. So many people need to hear you speak about this. There are so many children, women, men that are in this position, and hearing this, maybe they can make some decisions to get out of this situation by knowing this is NOT okay.
Such a strong woman, I feel like protect her at all costs. I just worry for her.
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I just want to congratulate this woman for doing so much work to get herself out of the hell she was living in, to persevere and prosper. I wonder if she’s ever heard the original story about the ugly duckling. In the original story, the ugly duckling is treated terribly by everyone around it (all the ducks) for being “ugly”. The duckling finally finds courage and goes exploring on its own. When it does, it finds out that it is actually a beautiful swan and all the other swans are welcoming, respectful, and loving, allowing the little swan to prosper. The story is about finding yourself through the right lens, the loving lens, the one that sees you for the wonderful individual you actually are. This girl reminds me of the beautiful swan who was so brave and courageous. I hope she is so proud of herself. ❤
Also the host does a fabulous job, I'm not saying you should never talk but it's good that you like people fully tell their stories. And Mr Tuxedo cat always warms up the conversation when needed.
The world can really be a disgusting place. I wish this girl the absolute best
Yes it can, icam! Being in a vulnerable state can take you down and out- My aunt was in a home for the elderly last year because she fell and broke a bone in her back. They did the exact opposite of care she needed to get well. Thank God she left and was able to heal at home and is now ok :(
Listening to this podcast is the only way I can get work done lately. I appreciate everyone telling their stories and how respectful you are as a host. Sending lots of love to Charlie.
I gotta say. I love that Dev took over this podcast thing and turned into this. The clean setup, honesty, sincere chat. LOVE IT.
Where did this occur?!? That police force and CPS need to be held accountable or at the very least- exposed so people know what they’re getting into living in that area. This is so despicable and enraging
I have just found this channel and it has been weirdly theraputic for me to know that there are other people who can understand how it feels to have been utterly neglected as children. My mother was an abusive alcoholic and I was an undiagnosed autistic trying to cope with her abuse. I was repeatedly sexually abused as a teenager and have only recently be able to confront my history. My therapist has been encouraging of me watching these videos because these people are so in tune with themselves and able to confront their pasts. It gives me hope for my future.
Heartwrenching wisdom from such a beautiful soul. This woman has a truly compassionate understanding of her own experiences and a very healthy sense of humor. I'm only half way through this interview and I can tell she has done a LOT of successful/healthy work through this
I've learned you can never make the abusers understand what they did to you. It's impossible. It doesn't matter how much you want to make them understand, they'll never do. Make your peace within yourself and go no contact. Live your life.
you are an incredible listener. it's healing to watch someone be able to tell their story without being patronized or spoken over :)
The human spirit is strong! The fact that you ok enough to speak freely says a lot. Thank you for sharing your story. 💯💯💯
This story shines not only from its vulnerability but being so well told. I admire strength it required just to tell it.
a poised, resilient, truly amazing woman. Thank you for sharing your experience.
I found this channel this week and I've been hooked ever since, I love listening to these videos while doing other stuff like cleaning, cooking ect. This story is so sad, she didn't deserve this. Rip Annie...
This episode made me emotional!! She and her siblings are so strong and for her to come out and talk about this and going through what she went through!! Thank you for sharing your story and you are amazing!!
You hear about these stories and think it’s all made up until you meet someone who went through it. The reality sinks in quick that there are people who go through these scenarios that live this in their live. Thank you for sharing your life with us.
I honestly hope someone from DOJ is hearing this and takes down the corrupt police dept who actively IGNORED the abuse of minor children multiple times!!!
WOW her story is just heartbreaking. This is another topic that is so important to bring to light. She is so brave to be so open to all of us. Thank you dev for giving her a platform to inform us and give people in similar situations strength and hope. (ps love the moods tee)
its awesome to see someone giving people who go through so many things such as this a platform to speak. to ACTUALLY speak, you let them be heard and tell their stories. thats really awesome of you and youre a great person for letting these strong individuals come talk.
Gaslighting, Manipulation, victim blaming. Pure narcissist. Some people are literally evil, your dad and your mom are pure evil. I’m happy you have siblings to turn too. I’m glad you are out and get to rewrite your life.
I have watched quite a few of these now. Thank you so much for shedding light on what women suffer through everyday. You manage to do it so beautifully to. I made sure to share your channel with my friends and family! I’m addicted!
Insane how this happened not even 20 years ago. Insane how many lives are taken away and time lost, during the most important years if your life they will never get back! This is a story you hear about from the 50/60’s - but to happen so often, so recent, and how many are completely just shunned by the justice system by people in power (ie: Military, law officers, govt officials, religious higher ups, etc). It is such a shame and you can only hope these monsters get what they deserve! Thank you for sharing your story!
Devorah this story was amazing . You are doing a great job with your podcast . You are Defitely perfect for this line of work. Charlie’s story is so heartbreaking. This is like the Turpin family with 13 children they chained and abused finally one child got out and got help. Both parents are in jail now where they belong.
I wanted to say I never knew someone had so close to the same experiences I did when I grew up. Growing up Mormon, my father etc etc.
I’m proud of you for being here on this earth. I can understand in ways how the system let us down so many times.
I was the sassy fight back one out of my other 4 siblings.
Thank you for sharing your story I felt so alone until hearing your story.
In the UK, if the child is suspected of being a victim of SA or FGM - you should never interview them in front of the parents. Just standard safeguarding.
I can totally relate to her convo with her Dad. I've tried to talk to my Dad about some verbal abuse and he didn't remember the incidents I brought up and didn't believe me. He actually told me I was in my forties and should be past it by now.
Thank you Charlie for surviving and sharing your story. Especially thank you for seeking justice for yourself, Annie and your siblings. Even if nothing comes of it, you did try.
Dev I love you! ur presence is so safe and comforting. its easy to let walls down around you and connect. idk if u knew that but its very apparent in any video ive ever seen of you interacting with others and just the energy you and others around you exude! ur like a safe space for both vulnerable and fun sides of people. this is like the PERFECT passion project for you❤
My heart breaks listening to this interview! Thank you for being so brave and sharing your story.
I saw this video for the first time six month ago and still think about it every now and then. I would love to know if possible of any developments and if justice will be served for all the victims of this man.
Charlie, you're such a brave woman and a powerful voice for survivors of abuse, and also a voice for Annie's story, bravery, and struggle. Thank you, Dev, for this important platform.
My mom wasn’t religious, but I remember at school when they teach you “if someone puts your hands on you in a way you don’t like, say it’s my body you don’t have the right to put your hands on me” and I said that to her when she beat me, she would chuckle and say “I’m your mother, I can do whatever I want to you”
“Eventually you welcome it” ….the ball in my throat rolled and now I’m in tears because same
I'm amazed charlie is ever able to talk to her parents again. That's true strength.
I escaped from my home because of a narcissistic mother and an absent father who always stayed silent during the abuse or pretended he didnt see. Im finding my strength through this podcasts, listening to stories of people who lived similar experiences as me.. thank you so much for your work. ❤
This is so important! It truly makes me sick knowing people have to suffer like this and some people still going through it.
I love this channel because the host doesn't interrupt the guest and asks the right questions at the right time.
10 minutes in & im already crying. What an incredibly strong group of kids. Hoping for their continuous healing over the years 💘
As someone going through a sort of similar struggle at the moment, I am so grateful to Charlie for sharing her story. This podcast is going to be something I use as a conversation starter with my own siblings as we're all now adults and getting to the point when these conversations need to happen, and watching this helped me see the light at the end of the tunnel. None of us who have been through stuff like this will ever find closure from our abusers, we have to find it in eachother.
Rest in peace and power, Annie
i love how comfortable you make them feel to be able to open up like this
Wow. How strong is this woman. So brave to share her story and will definately help a lot of people. Wish her the best for the years to come ❤️
Thank you! ❤
@@charlie_fornow You articulated these events so poignantly, that it had me in tears. You seem like such a genuine, passionate, considerate person and no one deserves that kind of abuse. Your strength and character really shows, and I'm glad you are still shining despite the horrible abuse you went through. Sending much love
@@user-ir4oz8cf3e thank you ❤️
Charlie is an incredible person, wow she has such strength for living through all of that!
Before I watch this- I grew up in a cult too. I’m slowly starting to believe that this isn’t as uncommon as people think. I had to leave my family at 20 (technically 19. A few days after my birthday) and with a whole lot of research and unlearning every single that I was taught since I was born. I realized that my “family” was actually a cult. It’s extremely hard to come to this realization especially if your still trapped in the situation. It scared me when my cousin mentioned that if my grandad was to tell our parents God said to kill us how they would do it bec they literally believe my grandad can speak to god.
It hurts so much to listen to this.. everything she’s saying is literally exactly what I and my family went through. The water, paddle, having to knee on the hard side of carpet holding a Bible for hours.. what god looks down at that and think “oh my perfect servant.” There was times when my mom would make us knee on rice as punishment.
there are so many stories in the bible where prophets are mass-murderers or just overall the shittiest you can be, and everytime they are being 'used by god' to 'spread his word,' that is all they do. that's all they have to focus on before being admitted into heaven and considered a literal prophet. they're not held accountable, they don't face reality, they dedicate their existence to 'spreading his message' and are worshipped for it. and I see that reflected in every abuser who uses god or the bible as an excuse and every person who enables them. those 'prophets' are just safe goats for them. i think that's how they can be so delusional to the point where they're convinced god can speak through people that shitty and they're somehow supposed to protect them. in the bible they're forgiven rewarded with heaven. the more I think about that book and what I read/learned from it growing up the more it just baffles me how anyone can follow a god like that. I'm unlearning so much as well, and seeing that you're also Black I relate even more.
What was the name of the cult? Or does anyone know which cult Charlie escaped?
Thank you so much for your story. I'm in tears because this sounds almost exactly like my story and it's so comforting to know I'm not the only one who feels these things.
46:08 wow, that was so incredibly powerful. Thank you for being so open with your past relationships and how your abuse affected you and caused you to be pulled into toxic relationships, that hits home hard. I’m still learning to stop accepting abuse as love and it’s amazing to hear another woman was brought up with the same mindset as me ❤ we have to untrain ourselves, i know it will take countless years but we’ve got this xx
She is a beautiful well spoke woman. I'm only 40 minutes in but she speaks very well for someone who is telling such a horrific past they've went through. I'm quite impressed by her, her ability to speak on it, she has a confidence in herself while speaking and I wonder if she went on to get an education because listening to her she's a bright person. I really hope she is proud of herself today, I am so proud of her.
Charlie, you're amazing. I'm glad your story came out. I wouldn't say that "being in a cult" is very common, maybe, but abusing children, be it sexually or physically, is a reality and should be correctly dealt with. The trauma you have, you will never forget, and I have to say it, but it really does suck. We should all have the same opportunities in being happy and yours was taken away by somebody who should be almost as a role model. It's not easy to speak our mind or lift a weight so big as the one that you have on your back. I don't have to understand 100% what you went through. I just hope you know that this world is actually painted in colors and not in black in white. That this world shines light, and I damn hope you realize that it's shining on you and all of your sibilings. There are some people that help can't reach. I just hope that they found clearance of mind after.