How to Upgrade a 3 Amp Step Down Module to 60 Amps
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- How to Upgrade a 3 Amp Step Down Module to 60 Amps
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Tranzistor work in linear mode without feedback so it is unusable regulator with high power loss and degrade very good stepdown converter
Absolutely right. Such converters are preferred for efficiency. This is not efficient at all.
he made think complicated, replace the buck converter with potentiometer the job is done 🤭
не делайте так. это ужастная идея. транзисторы в линейном режиме еще и без уравнивания потенциала на гейтах. обратной связи нет а значит о стабилизации можно забыть. на 60 амперах это будет печка на 2 минуты работы (после просто лопнут транзисторы)
Ничего Вы не понимаете, у автора ролика совсем другая физика!!! (Сарказм)
@@МарсельИсляев Я иногда смотрю у них на континенте все законы физики по другому. Зачем я тогда учил физику в школе?
@@fermionmaverick537 Континент у нас с Турцией один - Евразия.
@@MrTeleman57 на самом деле это сарказм. Вы же понимаете это.
@@fermionmaverick537 У них не континент, вообще другая планета. Там все не так.
There is a voltage drop across the MOSFET 2.4 to 5V. And the plates in the MOSFET will generate heat when subjected to heavy loading. Therefore, you should use 100% PWM converter rather than mix old technology into it. which is not a better result.
he is using voltage into the mosfet gates which is a bad way to do this, and there is no real voltage regulation from the output of the mosfets back to the regulator so the real output is unregulated and will vary with load, this whole design is bad
100%
I did a test on the lm2596 and added 4 npn transistors and oar resistors, they used a heater on the load, used two 24v input batteries, I got 13 amps at the output without any heating of the lm2596, I didn't have a stronger load, it could draw up to 20 amps.
iyi de switch mod regülatör lineer regülatöre dönüştü. ne anladık biz o işten. Bir sürü kayıp. bu devre yerine bi lm317 kullanılsa daha mantıklı olurdu. çıkış voltajı yüke binince sabit kalıyor mu onu da bilmiyoruz ölçülmemiş.
Diğer türlü de 80 waat lambayı yakamiyacakti lineer olunca trafolu gibi mi 9lmus oluyor pek anlamadim mosfet olması itibarıyla da iç drenci yüksek öndeki devreyede bilmiyor öle degilmi
@@Ömerybt lineer olunca drenç bağlı gibi çalışır istenmeyen enerji ısıya dönüşür. ama küçük olan switching devrede ısınma olmaz enerji kaybı olmaz.tabi haliyle komponent daha fazla.
Çıkıştaki bobin ve kondansatörler sökülse switch mod'a dönüşmez mi? Zaten darbeli bir çıkış var.
is it possible to connect the module XL4015 like this ?
@@davutozturk3348 nie będzie działać. Co prawda wynikało by, że wyjście będzie działało jako PWM, ale fedback będzie błędnie interpretował sygnał zwrotny. Należało by odłączyć elektrodę wyjścia lm2596 i połączyć rezystorem ok 10ohm. z bramką tranzystorów. Należało by również bramkę rozładowywać tranzystorem lub rezystorem do minusa, oraz wymienić cewkę i kondensatory. Pozostanie mimo to kwestia, czy przy częstotliwości przetwarzania około 400kHz tranzystor będzie mieć w tempie ładowaną i rozładowaną bramkę, tzw timingi.
1:20 yes yes yes! Finally I found the information on the net!111 Variable input & constant voltage output!!!
Guzel de.. ampermetre ile 60 Amperi gorseydik..
Useless device 😠
good oven 🥵
beautiful video 😄
Buck bust convertörlerdeki verimlilik ilkesine aykırı bir tasarım olmuş bana kalırsa.
Assalomu alaykum abi rahmat ishingizga omad...
Aleyküm selam desteğiniz için teşekkürler
Hi i like you go step by step practicaly doing things WELL done. However you forgot to mention that Power supply ok only Good Idea if you gonna use powersupply for 3 or so minuts only, as Mosfets will reach Such a HIGH temperature that will start MELTING complite thing., which makes Modification dangerus and usles in practical application.
Interesting to improve the cassette for 'starting my RC models 1\8. :)
اخي والله هذه الدائرة مهمة بالنسبة لي ممكن تصمم الدائرة كاملة بدون المديول لان عندنا كما تعلم قرى ريفية ولا يوجد مناجر تبيع القطع الالكترونية
كيف اساعدك اخي
780x
From video it appears that this technique has low current stability at load.
When you adjust the output voltage at 13v and connect 21watts load, lamp glow a little. For full brightness you increased the voltage which not shown in video. When you connect 4 lamps, you again readjust the voltage.
Scheme seems to be good but voltage regulation from no load to full load required to be improved.
60A? ??? Max 7A!!! 🖕
t works, I gave 6 IRFP260Ns a large heatsink with a fan and it can handle 40 Amperes with an output of 13.8 V .You have to connect with thick wires and it is OK.I used a 24 v 61 Ampere sewer power supply .The voltage drop with a 40 A load is 1.5 V. Step-Up converter used 5 A regulation from 1.5 to 35 V
Ben daha önceki 220 voltu 12 v 20 ampere çeviren devreyi denedim. Yüke binince (12 v araba lambası yaklaşık 1,5amper) mosfet yandı zener yandı. Önce düşük voltu multimetre ile ölçtügümden rahat davranıyordum ama yükte komponentler yanınca bir de carpıldık. Yükten önce 12 volta kadar düşüyordu multimetrede Aklımca 40-50tl ye 12 v 20 amper güç kaynağı yapacaktık. 23 amper 250 v mosfet de bayağı pahalı. Netice elde lehim bulaşmış teller, bozulan zener, mosfet. Elde kalmayan harcanan zaman, para. Ha... bu videoların bir fayfası neyin kestirmeden yapılamayacağını deneyerek anlıyorsun. Bendeki deney=tecrübe böyle. It's up to you.
YORUMLARI OKUSAYDIN BU ADAMIN DEVRELERİNİ YAPMAK GİBİ BİR HATAYA DÜŞMEZDİN!..BOZUK SAAT MİSALİ 2 DEVRE DOĞRU ÇALIŞIR DİĞERLERİ HİÇ BİR ZAMAN GERÇEK KOŞULLARDA UZUN SÜRE DENENMİŞ DEVRELER DEĞİL!
by feeding a variable voltage into the gate of an N channel mosfet, you have turned an efficient dc-dc regulator into a linear one with poor regulation. because the N channel fet is on the high side, the load is going to pull down the source voltage, increasing the VGS, increasing its conductance and it will balance out somewhere, but the load regulation is going to be poor as it will be a function of load and RdsOn at various gate to source voltages.
you are much better off using an LM317 with a parallel pass mosfet, but it is still a linear circuit. not only is the LM317 cheap as chips, but the LM317 will actually lend negative feedback of the output votlage where in this circuit the only crude regulation is provided by the mosfets VGS VDS IDS relationships and the input buck converter might as well have been a voltage divider as it's own feedback circuit has no idea what the output voltage is. if your mosfet had an absolutely ideal turn-on curve with respect to the threshold voltage, this circuit might work, but that just isnt the case.
Resistance 1k change resistance but value
Sen bir dahisin! Ne kadar basit ve güçlü bir güç kaynağı! Arjantin'den selamlar!
Bu güçlü ve güzel bir cihaz değil. Bu cihaz tehlikeli. Doğrusal modda transistör çok sıcak olacaktır. Ayrıca geri bildirim de yok.
This regulator gives a bad regulation with much losses - bad construction. simply terrific
Buck converter modul is good, but 2x irfp250 work with linear configuration not buck converter configuration to
How increase output Amp of XL6009?
استاد اگر میشه طریقه ساخت شارژر باطری موتور سیکلت وساخت ترانزیستور یا cdiموتور سیکلت را یاد بدید🌼🌹🙏سپاس از کانال خوبتون🌷🙏
سلام یلدیز خان
لطفا این ماژول را با استفاده از tl431 و lm 317 درست کن .
تشکر
Спасибо, всё хорошо и интересные схемы у тебя! Но просьба есть, схемы подключения от руки хотя бы начертить...
Thank you, everything is fine and you have interesting schemes! But there is a request, to draw connection diagrams by hand at least...
Это фэйк
@@_alay4157 нет, я собрал и знаешь, работает! Ну не 60 ампер, хотя зависит от транзистора который найдёшь. И у этого парня схемы все рабочие. Он не фейкамёт 🙂😉👍
@@misha_mikheev ну ладно, просто выглядело как-то не правдоподобно и не правильно
@@_alay4157 потому что просто... 🙂
во-во, ненавижу такие тупорылые видосы, когда ничего не об'ясняя, чот паяют, не пойми чего-куда-зачем... 🙄 схему не дают... и да, LM2596 - устаревший регулятор, т.к. он на биполярных тр-рах - греется сильно, а эта схема вааще в линейном режиме работает, греть радиатор на сотне Ватт - не наша ипостась, полная дурь плюшевая! 😲
i ripped out the inductor and used pin 2 to drive the mosfets. mosfets are also configurated in the normal switching operations, and not series through as in your circuit. and i found that the voltage remained constant on load or without. mosfets do get hot and will need better cooling. almost perfect variable voltage regulation.
The voltage measured with a meter my look constant but what is actually being applied to the load is pulsed DC - a rectangular waveform. Many things will not operate properly with such a waveform or actually be instantly destroyed. You can't filter to DC with just capacitors. The original circuit is rubbish. So is yours except for certain applications.
Но он там не последовательно соединяет а паралельно
60amper çıkış için güç kaynagının da en az 60amper üzerinde olması gerekmiyormu?
Fine Video
but you convert the high efficiency buck converter to low efficiency linear regulator .
And here are all the shortcomings. And ripple (noise) and low efficiency.
@@SIM31r the linear regulators lower ripple at average but low efficiency than switching regulators
@@mohammedjawadforelectronic9190 You're right. But here is a combination of a linear regulator and a switching power supply. A very strange system.
@@SIM31r you are right ?
@@mohammedjawadforelectronic9190 Yes. It's a translator, I haven't checked. I only read, I don't write ))
Lắp thêm công suất xin cảm ơn một ý tưởng tuyệt vời
y con esos cables le pones unos hot dog y los hace con 30amp solamente
Hocam 12v 5 w güç kaynağını 5 v 8 amper verecek şekilde nasıl ayarlayabiliriz. Step down regülatörü işime yarar mı amperi yükseltir mi?
Amper yükselmez
2:54 te Source olarak gösterilen bacak, devrede Drain olarak kullanılmış.
Yemek pişirmek için oldukça iyi bir cihaz olabilr kolaylıklar
اگر راهی داره چیزی یاد بدید تا بتونیم بجای باطری در موتور سیکلت استفاده کنیم وتوان ذخیره نیرو داشته باشه...ایا چنین چیزی هست؟؟!!
Makasih atas ilmu yg di sharing. Jadi pingin nyobain.... Semangat
Gak usah ... kalau mau pake linear pake 723 saja jauh lebih bagus. Kalau bulk converter itu unggulnya efisien panas yg kecil walau kerja berat. Kalau dirubah diatas (linear) yg kalau input voltase besar output kecil dg amper besar maka transistornya bakal puaaanassss dan kalau keseringan rusak
@@74LS324 Assalamualaikum kak, izin bertanya saya punya power supply 12V ampernya 70A . Kira2 kalau menggunakan rangkaian yang sama dengan ini apakah bisa ya kak
@@Albert05.Meledak
Nice multimeter
سلام چهار ضربدره بیستودو برابر هشتاد و هشت وات تقسیم بر دوازده میشود هفت آمپر خروجی شما نه شصت امپر
hocam elinize sağlık.güzel bir proje diyeceğim yok ama bir sorum olacak.60 Amper her zaman lazım olmaz yani bana ama o mosfetlerin yerine daha bol bulunan ırfz 44 yada benzerleri ile 10 Amperlik olabilirmi.Birde o çıkıştaki kondansatör ilgimi çekti.Özel bir durum içinmi yada benzeri bir kondansatör yada başka mosfet kullanırsak değeri değişirmi.O modullerden bir ara yirmi tane aldım arkadaş biri sağlam çıkmadı ama benzer modullerden sağlamı var.Bir denemem lazım.Kolay gelsin.
Kullanabilirsiniz kardeşim
30+30 Amper olarak kullanmak zorunda değilsin, 30 amper geçirebilen bir mosfeti 10 amper seviyesine kadar kullanmak transistörü serin tutar, devrenin ömrünü ve sağlamlığını artırır. O Capasitör ana akımı filtreliyor. Step Down regülatör ise sadece Alan Etkili Transistörün alan bacağını regüleli bir şekilde belirlemek için çalışıyor, yani ana devrede yok. Normalde Mosfeti bedavaya tetiklersin ama b urada refgülatörle tetikleyip bir miktar enerji maliyetine katlanıyorsun. Bu regülatörlerden yıllar önce ben de almıştım, hiç bir sorun yaşamadım, belki de üretimini denetlemeyen merdiven altı üretim yapan bir üreticiden almışsındır.
I am writing to you today to provide some feedback on the electrical circuit testing you have showcased on your website. I have found your website's content generally informative and appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge and expertise with others.
Feedback:
I noticed that you tested the circuit using only four bulbs, which represent a power consumption of 84 watts (12 volts × 7 amps). In your circuit description, you mentioned that it can handle up to 60 amps.
I would like to suggest conducting additional tests on the circuit using larger loads to observe how it performs under full-load conditions.
Furthermore, your testing did not demonstrate how the circuit behaves when the input voltage is changed. Would it be possible to test the circuit using different input voltages (higher or lower than 12 volts) and monitor the effect on the output voltage?
Benefits:
These additional tests would provide valuable insights into the circuit's capabilities and limitations, which could be highly beneficial for potential users.
By comprehensively testing the circuit, you will be able to present a more accurate picture of how it functions under various scenarios, assisting users in making informed decisions about its suitability for their needs.
Thank you for your time and consideration. I appreciate your efforts in sharing your knowledge and expertise with others.
Can you show the input volts & amps and output volts & amps?
V output = Vb = V out Converter - V re (0,7V)
It is constant voltage...
Ib = Vb/RB
Ic = Ib x hfe
Disipation Rb = Vb x Ib
Disipation Transistor = (Ic + Ib) x Vce
Thanks! Your video content is the safest and most useful
Обычно с такой музыкой в ролике полная хрень..оказалось не казалось))
This is a really nice video.
However, please can you do some more testing to support the 60A output shown in your thumbnail?
his video is bs
Videoda minik bir hata olmuş, mosfet D bacak beslemesi + kutup olarak gördüm
N channel mosfet ise, GDS Bacakları bağlantısı yapılırken S bacağı D olarak tekrar yazılmış.
mashaa Allah Tbarak Allah
Apa fungsi kapasitor?
Bisakah di ganti dengan mylar atau kapasitor keramik?
Its Linear Regulator which will generate a lot of heat across the mosfet.
It seem cool but actually its just a trap to attract viewers to increase watch time.
Sir 21W x4 44W only?
12V 3A = 36W is original
Do you test with 300/400W bulb?
12V x 30A = 360W
step up modülü böyle modifiye edip araba aküsü şarj edilebilir :)
esto también sirve carga bateria de moto?
Step up için nasıl yapacağız ayrıca step up devreye akım sınırlama devresi ekler misiniz
Yes is bok ser.
سلام استاد
ایا از این ۶۰امپر که با۳ امپر تولید شده
میتوان از ۶۰ امپر در موارد الکترولیتی
که از منبع تغذیه امپر بالا باید استفاده بشه بکار برد متشکرم از راهنمایی
Kindly somebody tell me what's the language of you mostly used in comments? Turkish ?
سيد ظافر.هل هي عملية؟شكرا.
You can do it even without the step down module, its liner voltage regulation and it's not efficient way to step down voltage
Bu devre güneş enerjisi şarj modülü olarak kullanılabilir mi?
Excellent ❤❤❤
I tried charging a battery with it and sadly it didn't
My solar box charger spoilt so I m looking for cheap n simple alternative to atleast limit the PV output I need help
By the way you didn't show what voltage u used to light the first bulb (which looks ligthing more or less good) but we can see 4 bulbs don't light enough. First light bulb (12v, 21w) needs 1.75 amps to work, with that board at 12v you can do it, the problem is with 4 lamps..., you'll need 48v and 3 amps, but you can only get 37v, that's the reason why they don't light enough.
The bulbs appear to be wired in parallel, not series, so with four lamps you'd need 4x3 = 12 amps at 12 volts to drive them. (Your 48V at 3 amp statement would be correct if they were wired in series instead of parallel.) The one bulb that is not coming on bright at the others might be a bulb with a different spec.
That said, other comments about the circuit being poorly designed and inefficient are accurate.
modülü akım ayarlı bir model kullanarak aynı yerlerden çıkış vererek akım ayarlısını da kurabilirmiyiz teşekkürler
Thanks for an emayzing video presentation.
It's a shame, your effect step here is linear. The degree of efficiency in the power stage is reduced considerably1
Calculate the degree of efficiency? "Most" people use this formula for the degree of efficiency: Power=Voltage X Current. While Efficiency = output power divided by input power multiplied by 100%
But this is the fastest way and is not "the whole thing". When I completed my basic education in electronics, we used this formula: This includes all pages for the exact power calculation:
USABLE POWER OUT/POWER IN=VOLTS OUT X I OUT/V IN X I IN
Your video presentation was for me a great pleasure to look through.
Regüla çıkış yük binice voltaj sabit kaliyormu.
Please make with step up booster xl6009 with transistor3055
30 v verip düşük voltaj nasıl aldınız verdiniz voltaj neyse onun altında alamazsınız biliyorum
bu devre şuan bu şekli ile tutarlı bir gerilim regülatörü olmaktan çıkmıştır (mosfet yerine npn transistör olsaydı gerilim sabit kalırdı) verim çok düşük bu devrede genede ihtiyaca göre işe yarar
Yaptığınız testte mosfetler ısındımı acaba verimlilik açısından ne söylersiniz. Devre çok pratik bir şekilde güç kaynağına dönüşmüş teşekkürler.
Mosfetlerin tam açık olması gerekir. Eksi halde fazla ısı verir.
Good!
Thx my Frend
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Chạy áp nhỏ nóng phỏng tay. Áp lớn thì không nóng
Abi onun çıkışını mı 60 amper yaptın sen
был импульсный..стал линейный ...а где 60 ампер ???? там вообще всю силовую часть нужно сделать по новому ..только лмку оставить
При токе 60А ну если секунд 5 эта схема протянет то хорошо
во-во, ненавижу такие тупорылые видосы, когда ничего не об'ясняя, чот паяют, не пойми чего-куда-зачем... 🙄 схему не дают... и да, LM2596 - устаревший регулятор, т.к. он на биполярных тр-рах - греется сильно, а эта схема вааще в линейном режиме работает, греть радиатор на сотне Ватт - не наша ипостась, полная дурь плюшевая! 😲
Lm 2597 buck step down devresi gibi olmuş,anlamadığım konu cv sabit gerilim regülatöründen,mosfet ten akım çekerken voltajda çökme oluyor mu? Deney anında, devreye keşke ampermetre bağlasaydınız.
elinize sağlık
can u replace mosfet by using transistor 2n3055 ???
Sayin hocam, bende ayni moduldan vardi lakin cikis hattinda yanlislikla kisa devre yaptirdim suanda modul cikisindan bir voltaj gelmiyor, yeni modulda da ayni sorunu yasamamak adina bir sigorta takmak istiyorum, lakin nasil guvenli bir sekilde olmali, sadece dc voltaj cikictaki pozitif/negatif kablosuna takmam yeterli olurmu yada nasil yapilmali, yardimlariniz icin simdiden cok tsk ederim..
Well, what s the stuation a step up converter? Can we use this with a step up converter 2? Else what can we do 4 it?
Can use this circuit with other step down module?
Bisakah alatnya d'pungsikan untuk spot welder batrai 18650?
Pakai elco bang... Isi daya elconya pakai saklar push on, setelah penuh dikosongin buat spot welder... Nanti di isi lagi dan seterusnya ..
alternatif bir ark kaynak makinesi kontrol kartı yemeli atılabilir mi bu sisitemle entegre halinde çalışcak
yapılan bu üründe üç tane yapıp birleştirelebilir mi
Vira um regulador linear dos anos 70
Fake, !!!!!
Make you sir 1.5 volt 15 ampere DC power supply please
how to up to 60A if YOU use step down LM2596S with maximun output 3A ????
Puedo reemplazar el irfp por un par de cs3205 y el capacitor es indispensable?
It's good to be connected to a solar panel to charge acid/lead batteries
is it?
Bu daha çok yüksek güçlü ayarlı voltaj kaynagi olmuş ustadim.
Good jobs! Thank you.
4 x 1.5 A = 6 Amperi gördük.. . 60 Amperi görseydik bide .....
Это каким нужно быть дятлом, чтобы сделать истоковый повторитель с применением импульсника?
Is it gives constant voltage ? You will not show us😡😡😡
yes, the output voltage remains constant as in the beginning The video was not shown because it would not be long.
@@ZAFERYILDIZ52 this is an excuse.
Hai I need a design a buck converter with a specification of 230V,50 HZ ac input and 30A, 5V variable DC current and voltage source
Mejor usa un LM317 ya que no tiene ningún caso realizar este circuito. Reduces considerablemente la eficiencia total del circuito.
Если уж делать такого франкенштейна, то хотя бы для уменьшения линейности убрал бы сглаживающий конденсатор на выходе платы
во-во, ненавижу такие тупорылые видосы, когда ничего не об'ясняя, чот паяют, не пойми чего-куда-зачем... 🙄 схему не дают... и да, LM2596 - устаревший регулятор, т.к. он на биполярных тр-рах - греется сильно, а эта схема вааще в линейном режиме работает, греть радиатор на сотне Ватт - не наша ипостась, полная дурь плюшевая! 😲
Verimlilik ile ilgili ölçüm varmıydı.kolay gelsin
could you connect the load to see 60 amp?
Яркий пример того, как не надо делать. Слушай Ивана Петрова и бедет тебе щастье.
Nice informative video!