I love watching him conduct his own music, especially knowing how difficult his scores are for conductors (and ensembles). I never grow tired of his harmonic language, especially when comparing his 12-note chords to Elliott Carter's. Lutoslawski is certainly a defining voice of 20th century music for me; specifically, he's (in my opinion) the greatest example of a seamless continuation of the 19th century romantic sensibility, minus the horrible banality of neo-romanticism.
Exactly, most earlier classical music was written around tonics, dominants and sub-dominants. This sort of music is much harder to write, that's why Lutoslawsky is a genius. I'd rather bite my own finger off than listen to Einaudi.
Przypomina mi się, co Proust mówił o nieudolnych krytykach swego dzieła: że też zarzucają mu właśnie i akurat "brak formy" - podczas gdy właśnie FORMA jest jedynym atutem, jedyną mocną strona jego dzieła! Ale na tym właśnie polega "filisterstwo": kompletne niezrozumienie, ale połączone z usilnym pragnieniem "wygłaszania opini" - bo przecież tak w ogóle to "taki oświecony jestem" i w ogóle...
@andreasamati Writing music like this is so much harder than writing tonal music. It's easy to write like Mozart: he was a genius because he pushed the boundaries of his time, but that was over 200 years ago. Were someone to write like that now, they'd never be successful. I agree with you in that there is a line where "music" becomes unintelligible (ohi, Lachenmann), but Lutoslawski is nowhere near this line. IMO, he's a genius. eg: I hate Handel. He's boring. Playing his music is a chore.
@Aecaiz I actually hold degrees from prestigious institutes of higher learning (which you could only dream of attending), studied with world renowned concert artists, and have played more concerts and music than you could in 100 lifetimes. It's not ignorant to call this noise: shit. That is what it is. And your opinion don't mean shit.
Wiecznie ten sam problem z filistrami... (z całym szacunkiem - moja mama też "nie kuma Lutosa", ale nie odważy się nazwać tej muzyki "chłamem") Niezrozumiała, mętna, antymuzyka itp. - znamy to na pamięć, do uprzykrzenia. Ale i tak zawsze znajdzie się jakiś nowy zapalczywiec, który pcha się ze swoją, pożal się Boże, opinią. Do "duszy" mu nie trafia, patrzcie go...
to be honest, for me chain I is much to sterile maybe abstract or just less of attraction. e.g. in comparison to chain II or the livre (that both were very emotional to me), so even as a very liker of contemporary music i just don't like it, but that's just my opinion :D
Takie utwory, jak Kwartet smyczkowy czy III symfonia należą do najznakomitszych utworów XX wieku. Nie potrafić sobie ich w jakimś stopniu przyswoić, opanować - to jak żyć przed Einsteinem i Jungiem... I oczywiście znakomita część publiczności "właśnie tak ma". Mówimy tu o zjawiskach bardzo elitarnych...
@andreasamati I certainly understand your argument, and you may even be right. But your not very wise choice of words makes you sound like a complete ignorant. The world of classical music certainly won't change because of them.
@andreasamati Evidently, you are not a musician. You have no understanding of the medium, so it's pointless to try and educate you through UA-cam comments. You don't like it. I think it's fantastic. So instead of trolling a perfectly good video with your ignorance, go listen to some Einaudi or something.
@Aecaiz Understand contemporary music? Why should I like bad harmony, sloppy writing, no attention to detail etc.? Not all contemporary music is this bad, and I do not think you should categorize Lutoslawski as being the epidemy of new music. You have no idea who I am and I've already succeeded in today's music world, so your theory is just that: a theory. If you open up your (small) mind and listen to what I have to say, you might actually learn something.
@Emptypocketfulls My point is that this Lutoslawski 'creation' is not music but rather noise. I'm not trolling this video, Lutoslawski and many of these atonal shit composers are frauds. They know that they could not write good tonal music so they resort to writing this abstract shit where you can't tell if someone's playing the wrong rhythm or note. Go listen to real music: Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, Handel etc. and open up your ears.
@mrpankau 'Understand that Lutoslawski had no interest in making this sound "pretty" ' ...Yeah I agree with you. You about summed it up. His music sounds likes like pure shit. With dwindling concert attendances, awful and untalented new music composers like Lutoslawski don't help the problem.
WOW! With him conducting! This is so great. Thank you so much.
another beautiful piece by maestro lutoslawski - thanks for the video
Lutosławski was a great genius.
Very Beautiful. It is one of the most beautiful 20th music.
I love watching him conduct his own music, especially knowing how difficult his scores are for conductors (and ensembles). I never grow tired of his harmonic language, especially when comparing his 12-note chords to Elliott Carter's. Lutoslawski is certainly a defining voice of 20th century music for me; specifically, he's (in my opinion) the greatest example of a seamless continuation of the 19th century romantic sensibility, minus the horrible banality of neo-romanticism.
i love all of those composers you mention. i also love lutoslawski. open up your ears and mind.
Uma obra prima!!!!!
it's superb, and very brutal composition, i love it.
Beautiful piece. Around 6'30'' it reminds me of an elusive and spooky passage for strings alone in the first movement of Mahlers' 9th symphony.
Another rare experience thanks to Suasoires. Please add any other contemporary works you can!
@frikij yes, have you listened to the fourth symphony yet? from the first moment it had me transported to another world...
Exactly, most earlier classical music was written around tonics, dominants and sub-dominants. This sort of music is much harder to write, that's why Lutoslawsky is a genius. I'd rather bite my own finger off than listen to Einaudi.
Brilliant
popieram;)
Przypomina mi się, co Proust mówił o nieudolnych krytykach swego dzieła: że też zarzucają mu właśnie i akurat "brak formy" - podczas gdy właśnie FORMA jest jedynym atutem, jedyną mocną strona jego dzieła!
Ale na tym właśnie polega "filisterstwo": kompletne niezrozumienie, ale połączone z usilnym pragnieniem "wygłaszania opini" - bo przecież tak w ogóle to "taki oświecony jestem" i w ogóle...
Very good performed. You listen Concerto for Orchestra! Lutosławski hides there krakowiak and obertas.
@andreasamati What is the definition of music?
i think it is YOU who should open up his mind
Similar to Prokofiev don't you think? I'm new in this style of music though
To, że czegoś nie rozumiesz nie oznacza jeszcze, że jest złe.
fuck me! this is great footage!
i swear they started clapping too soon...
@andreasamati Writing music like this is so much harder than writing tonal music. It's easy to write like Mozart: he was a genius because he pushed the boundaries of his time, but that was over 200 years ago. Were someone to write like that now, they'd never be successful.
I agree with you in that there is a line where "music" becomes unintelligible (ohi, Lachenmann), but Lutoslawski is nowhere near this line. IMO, he's a genius.
eg: I hate Handel. He's boring. Playing his music is a chore.
@Aecaiz I actually hold degrees from prestigious institutes of higher learning (which you could only dream of attending), studied with world renowned concert artists, and have played more concerts and music than you could in 100 lifetimes. It's not ignorant to call this noise: shit. That is what it is. And your opinion don't mean shit.
Wiecznie ten sam problem z filistrami... (z całym szacunkiem - moja mama też "nie kuma Lutosa", ale nie odważy się nazwać tej muzyki "chłamem")
Niezrozumiała, mętna, antymuzyka itp. - znamy to na pamięć, do uprzykrzenia. Ale i tak zawsze znajdzie się jakiś nowy zapalczywiec, który pcha się ze swoją, pożal się Boże, opinią. Do "duszy" mu nie trafia, patrzcie go...
to be honest, for me chain I is much to sterile maybe abstract or just less of attraction. e.g. in comparison to chain II or the livre (that both were very emotional to me), so even as a very liker of contemporary music i just don't like it, but that's just my opinion :D
Takie utwory, jak Kwartet smyczkowy czy III symfonia należą do najznakomitszych utworów XX wieku. Nie potrafić sobie ich w jakimś stopniu przyswoić, opanować - to jak żyć przed Einsteinem i Jungiem... I oczywiście znakomita część publiczności "właśnie tak ma". Mówimy tu o zjawiskach bardzo elitarnych...
chaing 2 is better of all 3
@andreasamati I certainly understand your argument, and you may even be right. But your not very wise choice of words makes you sound like a complete ignorant. The world of classical music certainly won't change because of them.
lutoslawski is about as far from academia as one can get. i don't think you know much about 20th century music.
@andreasamati Evidently, you are not a musician. You have no understanding of the medium, so it's pointless to try and educate you through UA-cam comments.
You don't like it. I think it's fantastic. So instead of trolling a perfectly good video with your ignorance, go listen to some Einaudi or something.
@Aecaiz Understand contemporary music? Why should I like bad harmony, sloppy writing, no attention to detail etc.? Not all contemporary music is this bad, and I do not think you should categorize Lutoslawski as being the epidemy of new music. You have no idea who I am and I've already succeeded in today's music world, so your theory is just that: a theory. If you open up your (small) mind and listen to what I have to say, you might actually learn something.
“ not all contemporary music is this bad” Which composers are you particularly drawn towards ?
@666aliano Enlighten who? This is not music, it is noise. There's more music in a New York City traffic jam when 10 cabs are honking, than this shit.
@Emptypocketfulls My point is that this Lutoslawski 'creation' is not music but rather noise. I'm not trolling this video, Lutoslawski and many of these atonal shit composers are frauds. They know that they could not write good tonal music so they resort to writing this abstract shit where you can't tell if someone's playing the wrong rhythm or note. Go listen to real music: Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, Handel etc. and open up your ears.
@mrpankau 'Understand that Lutoslawski had no interest in making this sound "pretty" ' ...Yeah I agree with you. You about summed it up. His music sounds likes like pure shit. With dwindling concert attendances, awful and untalented new music composers like Lutoslawski don't help the problem.
@mrpumpkin This is exactly what is wrong with classical music. Shit like this drives audiences away. Open your fucking ears.