Hurricane Flood Waters vs Camaro LS1 Engine. The Effects Of Salt Water
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2023
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I've been tearing down engines on camera for 2 and a half years! Search my channel to see what I've torn down. Here's a few recents:
Mini Cooper/PSA N14 • JUNK Mini Cooper S (BM...
Ford 1.0 Ecoboost 3cyl • JUNK Ford Ecosport 1.0...
Infiniti/Nissan VR30DDTT • 60K Miles on 1 Oil Cha...
Dodge Ram 8.0 V10 • 8 LITERS OF DESTRUCTIO...
Today is a little different. Today we get a look inside an LS1 engine that was in hurricane Ian's storm surge in 2022. This 5.7L all aluminum v8 was in a 2002 Camaro Z28 with just 40k miles.
We tear this engine all the way down to see just how bad salt water is on the inside of an engine.
This was one of the toughest LS based teardown I've done, and took about 30% longer/more clips than most of my LS teardowns.
Why do I do this? My name is Eric and I own and run Importapart, a full service auto salvage business in Saint Louis, Missouri. Part of our model is dismantling core and blown up engines to salvage the good parts for resale. We do not rebuild engines, merely supply parts to those that do. You can expect a new teardown every Saturday evening!
I hope you enjoyed this video as always, I love all of the comments, feedback and even the criticism. Catch you on the next one!
-Eric - Авто та транспорт
Who knew? The trick to getting GM exhaust manifold bolts out without breaking any is to submerge the entire car in seawater.
Nature's WD40 😂
never knew that was a problem on the LT1 or LS1 engine.
Counter-intuitive, for sure.
Exhaust manifold bolts AND the dipstick!
Multi, dissimilar metals with an electrolyte connecting them all...many batteries and voltages.
Had my boat sink overnight at the dock (bellows failed on the Mercruiser stern drive).
Raised the boat, pulled the plugs, drained the oil, cranked it, to blow all the water out of the cylinders, cleaned out the Q-Jet, new oil & filter, reinstalled the plugs.
Fired right up. Ran it for an hour, changed the oil again and fixed the bellows.
4 years later, still running strong!
Watching these tear downs have been my favorite Saturday night pastime for almost 2 years now, thanks for the awesome content!
I look forward to these teardown videos on Sat evening. Bravo !!!!
omg same here!
Me too,
It’s the best date night,
Same!
Absolutely!!! Saturday night ritual here!
who would have thought that watching a guy strip an engine down was way more interesting than anything professional program makers would put on tv
I recently bought a 5.3 LMG block from you guys. And let me say I was so glad to see the Cam plate hardware come with it. Like you said they can nickel and dime you to death.
I'm restoring a Jeep now, and I am replacing a lot of bolts that I actually have because of general poor condition from being 30 years old. Bolts get expensive fast, especially when you need 3, and the smallest pack of pack of 10 is $12-15.
I have spent almost as much on miscellaneous hardware as I did that 6 pack of pistons.
As others here have pointed out, the white flecks/crust inside the motor is dried sea salt. This motor has seen Davy Jones' Locker.
Hurricane Ian made landfall right where I live. As a grown man that has seen it all Ian legitimately scared me to tears.
I though I was prepared.
I learned a LOT from Irma a few years previous.
No...
There is nothing that can prepare you for the howl of 150MPH winds in your back yard. Then, gusts...
When will it end?
Will my trees land on the house? Who knows but insurance is useless and just a formality. what about the storm surge? I am 7 streets from flood zone A. No water but the wind and flying debris was beyond words.
Image your home - so sacred and secure. Now strap it to a trailer and drag it to the Autobahn.
One year later it is still on my mind,
Venice resident here. And yeah Ian SUCKED!! I spent most of the time outside cleaning the culverts so that all the houses on our street didn't flood....
Several times the wind damn near took me off of my feet. 6' tall and 230lbs.
A 50 mph gust can knock you off your feet if you are not prepared. 150 mph has NINE TIMES as much force as 50.
I'm so glad you are okay. I was 10 years old, vacationing in Washington DC when Hurricane Agnes hit and it was traumatizing. We flew, and I remember the drive to the airport which was opening and closing but I remember most is seeing a father with water over his waist, holding his daughter above his head and trying to get to the opposite side of the street and into a building. I was 10 and I will never forget the look of fear in his face. I live in St. Louis where we have tornados. I really feel for you. It's one thing seeing it on TV, being in it is beyond description. Really glad you are okay.
@charlesjames1442 I was more worried about the huge oaks coming down and landing on me. I watched one about 18" in diameter snap in half about 20' off of the ground. It went right into my neighbors roof.
These are same oaks that were dumping crap into the culverts that were supposed to be draining our street. On the flip side they DO provide a pretty significant wind break.
But there were billowing columns of gusts you could SEE coming through the trees. You could also clearly hear them over the howling constant wind.
Different name (Michael instead of Ian, Panama City), same story. They clocked gusts up to 165. Every tree above a certain height was just snapped. EVERY. tree.
That day we learned what they meant when they talk about "it sounds like a freight train".
We had "nothing" for at least a week, except relief efforts. Many of our neighbors made it out far worse than us.
All of you, you have my sympathies, and I'm glad all of you have made it out of that okay, even if a little shaken.
My 16 year old daughter calls this channel “Dad ASMR”. I find that I struggle to argue the point.
Vehcor has 'The Scream'. I Do Cars has 'The Waterpump Toss'. Look forward to hearing/seeing both!
Scott's scream and Eric's toss. Both worthy of a thumbs up!!
I was not ready for you demonstration on how locked up the engine is😂
When he mentions a part being good I always think he’s about to throw it across the shop
Yep... you know what's coming lol.
As someone that lives in Florida and went through many hurricanes including Ian I can smell this video.
As a sailor working on ships, I can smell it too.
That bilge water smell
Navy in the 80s on a diesel powered ship. I can smell it, too.
@@GeekBoyMN Gas turbine in the 80's for me. But those bilges.
@@boba1024 I started taking the GS book course but ended up discharged before finishing it. I did get to go aboard a Pegasus PHM in Little Creek in 84 and got to peek at the LM-2500.
I think what appeals the most about your channel is how you show the real life struggles of being a salvage technician.
Eric,
Thank you for doing what you do and much respect for you as a person and an honest, hardworking business man.
Paul (in MA)
BTW RA lists replacement pistons for that engine at .010 (.25mm), .020 (.50mm), and .030 (.75mm) over
I have an LS1 from a 2004 GTO in my 1953 Chevy 3100. I love these engines! They're so easy to work on and they make great power. It's a shame it got destroyed.
I’m from Louisiana, and I’m also part Boudreaux. I recognize that stuff on the pistons.
It’s French seafood dressing. Goes perfectly with crustaceans in your engine. 🦀 🦞
I was just thinking, this was engine pull from Spongebob, cause of all the barnacles everywhere.
@@th3R0b0t Mr Crabs approves. 😂
@ 18:00 you said "I'm sure there's a better tool for this"
Your right, wait to pull the lifters, take the timing cover off, cut or remove the chain and make a lever to turn the cam back and forth. The lifters will be easier to remove after being pushed up.
Came here to say the same
Good advice!
If that block gets another lease on life, it needs to do it with a Salt Life sticker.
Curious question...... if you put your ear up to the intake plenum ... do you hear the Ocean ? Just wondering 😂
Working at a Chevy dealership in southwest Florida. We saw a lot of this. Especially since the eye of Ian passed right over us. Was a wild experience to go through
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"Yarrrrr, I be full of barnacles!" -Pirate LS1
As Eric said, if the car has been in floods, immediately dump the oil, pop the plugs, dry out the cylinders and fill them with penetrating oil, start and run couple rounds of fresh oil thru engine, let the engine warm up to evaporate any moisture out of the block, finally dump the oil and fill with fresh oil and coolant. The main thing is not to let water sit in the engine longer than few days.
One of the issues being, if the car's been submerged the chances of it starting in the first place are close to zero.
When my father's boat sank, he did this exact thing. Engines ran fine afterward.
Unfortunately it's not just the engine. The electronics need to be cleaned thoroughly as well.
At 5:01
The white stuff under the intake manifold, on the valley cover, and possibly on the valves....
That's what sea salt looks like after the water it is in dries....that it's pretty much proof that it was submersed in seawater.
Yeah a mix of salt and minerals that are in sea water (it's actually a lot. I used to keep salt water fish and man keeping up with the mineral additives is a pain) and it's horrible for any metal.
@@davidmiller9485
I knew that there was other stuff in it, but wasn't totally sure what everything was....and most people reading the comments wouldn't understand, so I chose to leave it out.
@@montecorbit8280 :) I wasn't trying to correct, just add.
The voice pitch changes are the best about these tear downs. Literally can’t expect the timing
Great teardown. thought there would be more problems getting the steel bolts out of the aluminum block after the saltwater emersion. Saturday night just ain't right without IDC!
That was my thought too upon watching, thankfully most did not put up much of a fight, thankfully.
Maybe sea salt or the amount of it in salt water has less corrosive elements than the rock salt they put on the roads. After all, the salt that we consume is sea salt, not rock salt.
Thanks for another great video Eric!!!
Thanks for the content Eric.
Another great teardown video, thanks for sharing 👍.
Really interesting video Eric. 👏👏👏
Very interesting to see, thank you as always for my Sunday afternoon (in Australia) chill session
I had Hurricane Wilma move over my home; the sound of the wind was like a million demons circling the house, shrieking non-stop for hours. It could drive a sane person mad, it was terrifying.
Thanks - this was a great video. I love when we see definitive answers to what we normally would make guesses about. 😊
Thanks Eric. Have a good weekend...
Very interesting! Thanks for sharing it with us!
Another great fun video, and although it was definitely destroyed I am actually surprised it wasn't worse.
Thanks again Eric, your videos are one of my favourite parts of the weekend. :)
TY! Very cool. It’s great to see a wider variety!
Another great teardown. Thanks for my Saturday night entertainment Eric.
Really enjoyed this teardown version. Interesting to see the effects of time and a corrosive environment.
We all meet again! Thanks for the great content
Good change of pace video!
Love watching you guys
That's a perfect block for making a table. Thanks for another great teardown!
Working on a tear down, regardless of the source of the damage, I like it. Keep 'em coming.
I sold a Subaru XT6 to Copart in central GA last month. If you want to tear down Subaru's first 6 cylinder (nothing wrong with it, just unable to get some parts to keep it running and the body wasn't good enough to be worth the expense) you may be able to get it from them.
I Start every Sunday with a cup of Coffee and watching you take apart a engine Thank you.
Very interesting! I learned a lot.
Very interesting tear down..
"I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers."
at 35:05 you really bring good meaning to the phrase "everything has a hammer end" cheers!
That blocks toast. Great commentary Eric.
I like this video in that it showed how flooding damages engines internally. Great vid.
Very enjoyable, and informative.
Great work Eric! Love your videos! Still hoping you can tear down a 1.8 out of a 2016 Chevy Sonic, and a 2.4 SRT4 engine out of a 2003 PT Cruiser GT that has the aluminum intake setup on it. As usual another great video!
I actually learned quite a bit from this video, great job!
Including piston gravity, lol
After a long day, I'm sitting down at 10 PM to eat supper and enjoy another great Saturday evening teardown video, thanks!!
It's 7:00pm on the west coast. The old lady went to get some fast food.
We had a freak hurricane come thru and flood the desert.
Lot's of submerged cars.
Iv enjoyed your videos I watch them first thing in the morning.
It looks like you got yourself a brand new 4 legged fan. My new kitten is an absolute Duracell bunny, but whenever I'm watching your videos, his eyes are glued to the screen.
Those weighted IR sockets are very helpful during a lot of different scenarios and work well if you are careful not to round off old bolt heads.
Eric man, we don't care what kind of destruction there is. You make em all interesting! Ps love the scrapyard rescue
Perfect video timing for the end of LS fest in Bowling Green.
These are great tear down i love the channel esp the hammer id what will fix it reminds me of Jeremy Clarksons solution to a engine problem
The dipstick tube coming out easy was the tickle. The last lifter was the slap! 😬
Your video reminded me I need to go to the beach this week. All that saltwater made me miss it.
Thank you much for the informative video
Eric,I watch your videos,not just for the content but for your comments. Some of the things you say are hilarious.
The amount of corrosion here is amazing. Granted it was salt water but it probably wasn't underwater for more than a few days. In contrast, go watch Merlin's Old School Garage, episode Yellow Submarine Engine Starts Up. That engine spent 30 years, 150 ft down on the bottom of Lake Mead and they got it running. Shows the contrast of saltwater vs fresh.
I look forward to IDC on Saturday night! Thank you.
I watched a UA-cam video about a retrieval of a speedboat from the, at that time, dried up part of Lake Mead. It had been submerged for about 30 years and discovered when the water level dropped. Luckily made of fiberglass the boat was in surprisingly good condition, although full of dried up mud. After a somewhat difficult retrieval it was taken back to to a garage to be cleaned and the plans were to replace the V8 engine as the motor was thought to be a write off being full of water. However when they dismantled the engine and cleaned it out they found it still in good condition inside. Apparently the oil had protected all the parts and being so far down in the water the cold and lack of oxygen had stopped it rusting. When it was all cleaned and put back together amazingly it fired right up and ran perfectly so it just goes to show not every engine full of water is a write off, just most of them.
Thank you,
I really enjoyed this video.
Thank you Eric, for showing us some of what happens when cars get flooded. I think it's great to show tear downs of all levels of destruction, goods, bads, and uglies. Knolage and learning is power.
To be honest, I have been in several Hurricanes, and I was always curious as to what the engine would look like if you tore it apart. Now I know. Thank You.
Thanks again, Eric.
Thanks for the video.
Thank you Eric! 👍
Absolutely love the videos
I watch your videos every Saturday. Except today because I worked last night. I'm a caregiver and doing hospice shifts with a very nice lady and it's so sad. But here I am, at home, cooking Italian beef and making jewelry doing "girly" things and watching an engine teardown lol. I got traumatized decades ago when my mom purposefully didn't take care of her car (it was washed and immaculate but she never checked the fluids) because her friend had a bigger town car. My dad's car was in the shop so he needed to drive her car and tap tap tap. I thought his head was going to explode. When he went in the kitchen to ask her if she ever checked the oil (in the days of full-service filling stations) and she smirked at him and said it wasn't her job OMG. Not going into the rest but I tried to run away from home with my brother that day. They were crazy. And I vowed I would NEVER let anything like that happen to my car. Even though the idea of it was a bit scary to me. Don't know why but it was. But I made myself learn everything I could so even if I can't fix it, I understand what's going on and I can do a better job of describing the issue and so I don't get taken to the cleaner by a bad mechanic (luckily I haven't had a bad mechanic in many many years). But your tear downs have such great information and helpful. Thank you for taking the trauma out of all this. First time in decades I haven't had nightmares. Plus I love your humor. So you have some women who's probably old enough to be your mom, watching your engine teardowns every Saturday (or in this case Sunday). Keep chuckin' those water pumps lol
I can imagine the hell if the engine...or any flooded engine..had an automatic trans and locked up tighter then Ft Knox. This video is great...I don't know if the adjusters from insurance companies have ever seen the bolt by bolt damage a flood does to a car. I would send a copy of this to some...it's educational for sure. It would be interesting to see what the insides of the wires look like in that harness. If water got in there that, to me anyways, would say it was under water for a good while.
Yet another departure from the norm...one of the best given what it took to get that crank to move at all even after the caps were off.
When you do get flood cars thats scrap...a video of what actually lurks behind the dash etc would be a sight to see.
Keep up the great videos Eric...this one is one of the best simply because of the educational aspect for those who have never seen the carnage from floods.
I haven't watched the video yet but I'm dropping this comment anyways. I absolutely love this channel.
Good Catch
Looked Like You were Going To Have an Excapie In Your Lifter. Horray You Capitured Itm Amazing Thanks ..You are Tops.
Thank you Eric.
Thanks for this video. I have always wondered what kind of a mess could be found in a flooded engine. Probably best to pass and chase a better core.
I love seeing parts after the parts washer
Somehow ive managed to never see an LS teardown before, I can see why people like the design its very straghtforward looks easy to work on.
Love this stuff!
When you pulled the oil pan off, I held my breath. LOL.
Thanks for the laughs and education on car engines. I agree with Paull1958R you are an honest, business man and I also respect you very much. I enjoy this video.
I live in Florida and this video means a lot to me. THANK YOU!!
I was tempted to buy a salt flood duramax but the salt in the cylinders was a concern for me.
You're probably glad you didn't after seeing this video.
HorsepowerDepot bought a 73 Trans Am, drained about 3 gallons of sea water out of the engine, put a new carb and distributor on it, and it ran great. The thing is you have to get it out soon. Clearly this engine sat for quite some time with water in it.
That didn't look nearly as bad as I thought it would. I've seen engines that have been sitting and filled up with water, those cylinders looked like brake discs after sitting for a month. I kinda expected this engine to be one solid block of rust!
It's aluminum.
"It's either going to come out or it's not" there has never been a more profound statement udder by humans in the entire existence of the universe. Bravo my good man... bravo
Very informative video.
That was a fun video..... Almost more interesting than the usual blown up stuff.....
I was thinking the same thing you said.... If you drained everything, got the plugs out, and just started pouring oil in the thing, keep turning it over, keep flushing the oil.... Maybe??? Get the water out?? Maybe?
Variety is wonderful. Getting a non blown, nature destroyed engine is a really cool change of pace. Still super glad UA-cam does not support smellovision. I'll happily leave that joy to you!
I just built my very first Lc9 engine. I am a old school Chevy engine person and I must say, after doing my due diligence on them, it really wasn't that bad! I can see why everyone is migrating to LS engines for race cars. Cheap and actually really easy to build! I wish I seen this episode before I built this one but it explains so much! Thanks for the awesome and In depth content!
I had an 89 Cadi Deville that I drove through standing water with. It sucked water through the intake and hydrolocked the engine. I had it towed home, immediately took all the plugs out and engaged the starter to pump the water out. I put new plugs in it, drained the oil and replaced the oil and filter, and drove it from then on with no issues. I think it had the 4.9 liter v8. The car still ran when I eventually junked it.
Paul from Fab Rats and his cousin Merlin, from Merlin's Old School garage did a series on an engine they took out of a boat that had been submerged for I forget how long; a decade, maybe. Anyway, submerged in 30 feet of water.
The drought that lowered the lakes in Arizona and the rest of the Southwest seems to be over, but it expossed that boat on the lake bed (Powell, maybe).
The amazing thing is that they got it running, with very little effort.
For the better part of 30 years at the bottom of Lake Powell
It would be awesome to see you colab with Tavarish and his Maclaren P1 flood car. He's already done so much to get it restored, but it just keeps on giving....
The UA-cam channel, "Pacific Northwest Hillbilly" had a cam shaft that made yours look pristine in comparison. It came out of a Cat D4 that did not have a cover over the engine and the bad seals on the valve cover bolts had allowed water and snow into the engine for 25 years or so. It had pits that were probably close to 3/16" deep. The engine was so bad it got replaced with a used one.
I was given a old race car which sat in a carport near a lake for 10 years. The engine did turn over but when I removed the head it was full of rust and yet it cleaned up with a .020" overbore. I was glad that I did not try to start it.
This was a good one!!!
An interesting thing to note here is, The condition of the castings after a flood took place... Years ago an experienced hot-rodder told me how some people who raced vehicles, used to bury castings and forgings under the dirt for several weeks to purposely cause surface corrosion....Then they would freshen them up with bead blasting and machining them as necessary, to bring them back to factory specs. Why????
Because that corrosion did something to those castings/forgings that uncorroded/clean & new castings/forgings never had done to them, up until that point... The corrosion on the external surfaces actually RELIEVED much of the internal stress's that were created during the intense rapid heating & cooling during the casting/forging process... The parts that did not have the surface corrosion, caused the castings & forgings to become hard & brittle, & more prone to cracking/breaking...
However the stress relieved parts became more flexible and less prone to developing cracks... Stronger, because of the increased flexibility... AKA 'Seasoning' of casted and forged shapes of several designs that are made of various types of metals... Eric, you just might have a veritable treasure chest of 'Seasoned' Chevy parts in Your midst... Just saying Amigo.
Thanks Eric