Head Vs Heart - Should YOU buy the CHEAPEST Range Rover On Sale? (L322 TD V8)

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  • Опубліковано 5 жов 2022
  • In this video, I'm driving the cheapest Range Rover on the market, the L322 - and discussing what goes wrong, what goes right and whether the car is good enough to actually buy
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  • @HighPeakAutos
    @HighPeakAutos Рік тому +50

    You’ve come down with Rangeroveritis James. I’m afraid there is no cure. Time to get your affairs in order. Good luck.

  • @Birmingham_racing
    @Birmingham_racing Рік тому +377

    I bet highpeakautos will be watching this

    • @MrRoden96
      @MrRoden96 Рік тому +48

      I thought this was a high peak autos video at first

    • @bensmithkent22
      @bensmithkent22 Рік тому +4

      @@MrRoden96 same one of those i bought a so and so for so much then he goes to view it in his discovery.

    • @PanicMachine423
      @PanicMachine423 Рік тому +6

      Ha I thought that immediately. 😁

    • @mmrahman82
      @mmrahman82 Рік тому +10

      Lol, he'll probably take some notes as well.
      In all honesty though, I really like watching highpeakautos videos but when he's talking, its like he's reading out, rather than speaking to you.

    • @williammorris1384
      @williammorris1384 Рік тому +4

      Guilty as charged!! 😂

  • @laurencefahey2085
    @laurencefahey2085 Рік тому +164

    Had mine since new , 2002 and still own it to this day , 226k miles all done by me , I honestly believe because I use it everyday all day that’s the secret to its longevity , drive it to Spain every year 3000 mile round trip , never lets me down , yes I look after it 2 services a year 1 big 1 small , and I always fix the little things straight away . I will never sell it as it means to much to me.

    • @keyboarddancers7751
      @keyboarddancers7751 Рік тому +13

      I'd agree. This sort of car only really thrives on meticulous attention. It does not forgive the owner who drops his guard!

    • @mixwellusa
      @mixwellusa Рік тому +8

      You're the right type of owner for these. Preventative maintenance and fixing things before they become larger issues will serve anyone well on a Range Rover.

    • @brucecutts8841
      @brucecutts8841 Рік тому +2

      @@keyboarddancers7751 Yep 100% agree - same can be said for Disco 3&4 - can't be run on a tight budget

    • @machohogan
      @machohogan 9 місяців тому +1

      You’re making me want a Range Rover

  • @defconluke
    @defconluke Рік тому +55

    That truck driver at 9:00 is doing a mega job of reversing 😄
    Like you say, people who get Range Rovers normally get more than one of them and they have to be quite special because of that alone.

    • @hymek7017
      @hymek7017 Рік тому +4

      Are you sure that truck has a driver? Looks like a runaway to me 🤪

    • @andyran
      @andyran Рік тому +1

      I can confirm, once you have had one, you dont want to be without one

    • @Buck3366
      @Buck3366 Рік тому +1

      @@hymek7017 That made me laugh out 😂

    • @2702simmo
      @2702simmo Рік тому +1

      Speed of him

    • @Nut_Job.
      @Nut_Job. Рік тому +1

      😂

  • @Lewis2710
    @Lewis2710 Рік тому +30

    My parents had a 2011 4.4 TDV8 for 5 years and I can’t praise it enough, surprisingly nothing went wrong with it over the years. There’s just something about a Range Rover that makes it special, it’s sort of elegant and regal in a way, you feel like your sitting down in the sitting room of an old stately home. It’s fantastic.

  • @taylorharrison8765
    @taylorharrison8765 Рік тому +39

    I remember when my dad first got an L322 when I was 8, it blew my mind, I had never even seen an automatic gearbox before. The car was incredible, shame it only worked for at most one year of his seven year ownership

    • @kw8757
      @kw8757 Рік тому

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 Рік тому +3

      I'm sure there are more unreliable cars you can buy... but I can't think of any right now. Oh wait, an LR4 Discovery is probably even more unreliable. Friend of mine bought one of those new back in the day, and it wouldn't even drive off the sales yard when he went to pick it up. Six months later after driving a courtesy car for most of that 6 months and a letter from his lawyer and they bought it back at purchase price & he bought a Land Cruiser. Every time he walked past any Land Rover product after that he would curse under his breath.

    • @Early2000sPs2games
      @Early2000sPs2games Рік тому

      Rich?

    • @taylorharrison8765
      @taylorharrison8765 Рік тому +1

      @@Early2000sPs2games far from it, the car cost 2 grand and a Mazda 2

  • @andyran
    @andyran Рік тому +55

    I love my L322 - Got a 4.4TDv8 - This is my second one and so far both have been good to me. The first one I did 40k in and it only ever needed a service and a battery - I have had far far worse cars from all makes.
    Just keep on top of things and they are simply the best everyday family car in the world - I personally think the last of the L322s are some of the best Rangies too. Classic looks but modern enough to be usable but also DIY able

    • @TheDavidsims
      @TheDavidsims Рік тому

      Is Diseasel good for your family ?

    • @warrengeew
      @warrengeew Рік тому +1

      4.4 TDV8 is the one to get.

  • @ephraimjohn
    @ephraimjohn Рік тому +21

    I "needed" a load lugger for camping (glamping) and hauling stuff about, and living in the countryside I felt justified in adding a 2003 petrol V8 L322 to my little car collection in May. I paid rock bottom price for it, at a bit under £2k. Thus far, it has played true to form and had its fair share of faults - £500 on front suspension, and a recent (common) problem with the steering lock meant I had to get familiar with the electrics (although that only cost me a couple of quid in parts and an hour or so of my time). It does a pretty woeful 17mpg or so in daily use. BUT... despite everything, I love it. The capacity, the visibility and the comfort are all top notch. It took me from the midlands to the lakes for a long weekend away with a bootful of stuff in luxury and it's all around lovely. Fits' right in with the mix of farm vehicles and modern luxury on the school run, whilst sitting somewhere in between. A Range Rover is a bit like a big dog; impractical, prone to the occasional massive bill, but utterly loveable.

    • @firstnamed1501
      @firstnamed1501 6 місяців тому

      Same. I bought a 02 for weekend camping trips. Spent about £10k in 2 years but fingers crossed it’s now good for years to come. Absolutely love it. Thinking of getting the centre resonator taken out to hear that M62 V8 burble.

  • @andrewdavis6226
    @andrewdavis6226 Рік тому +10

    Had a 10 year old 60 plate 4.4TDV8 for 2 years. Absolutely loved it. No major issues at all and always smiled when I drove it.

  • @mw5076
    @mw5076 Рік тому +11

    the hidden costs - aka road tax, insurance, fuel and maintenance - would quickly make this the most expensive "CHEAPEST" car you ever owned

  • @captgutter
    @captgutter Рік тому +8

    Lusted after an L322 for so long but now the L405 are also becoming attainable. They all just ouse class and style without any in-your-face unnecessary aggression.

  • @Buck3366
    @Buck3366 Рік тому +14

    My friend had an issue with his air suspension on one side of his Westminster 4.4 V8 Tdi. 2 sensors and a calibration by my mechanic pal and it was happy days. I dread to think of what JLR would have charged but it literally was £10 for him in beer and whatever eBay wanted for the sensors. Now if only his former V10 Touareg was that easy to fix 😳

  • @Paul-D
    @Paul-D Рік тому +58

    I have 2 friends who both decided on getting one of these, 2 quite different purchases in terms of one was dealer, one was private, one was a little ropey and the other a showroom condition. Both ended up blowing loads of cash they had to work for and give up on it soon after deeply out of pocket 😅

    • @barry5138
      @barry5138 Рік тому +5

      It's a fools game alright. Need a Clarkson budget

    • @allanhughes7859
      @allanhughes7859 Рік тому +9

      I honestly don't get it I really do not I have owned R/R's since I was 21 years old. First being a 1971 2 door which I still own
      I currentlydrive an 04 L322 and have owned this one for 5 years and nothing nasty to report on any of them The worst issue I have had is the ignition key switch failing so I had it by passed to a button Oh and the central locking not working off the key fob and thats it I do look after my cars re service etc but nothing special really So I must be a very very lucky chappy ??

    • @GreenOval_Adventurers
      @GreenOval_Adventurers Рік тому

      @@allanhughes7859 beautiful machine, what colour is it? i have a 1988 Range Rover classic 3.5 in stroage and once its fixed up (getting all the parts together now ) I'm hoping to drive it from Ireland to the nordic circle.

    • @Paul-D
      @Paul-D Рік тому

      @@allanhughes7859 Everything in life is a numbers game. You make enough of anything at almost any QC level and some of them will just be good or great haha.

    • @johnmalin1676
      @johnmalin1676 Рік тому +7

      I find it amazing that its always someone's "friends", or someone down the pub who has serious problems with their Range Rovers 😂😂😂

  • @DavidHallworth
    @DavidHallworth Рік тому +43

    As a family we've had Range Rovers for decades and there's nothing out there that can replace it. It'll tow our trailers on the roads or the fields, it'll get you in and out in bad weather or it'll take you very comfortably away for a weekend. There's nothing else out there that has that ability in one package. We've had the odd niggle but the one and only time we've not made it home was due to the dealers cock up when it was in for servicing. As with everything, the key is looking after it properly. They were expensive cars when new and can't be run on a Vauxhall Corsa budget despite being able to be bought for Corsa money. If I could only have one car, without a shaddow of a doubt it'd be a Range Rover. 🙂

    • @GreenOval_Adventurers
      @GreenOval_Adventurers Рік тому +2

      Same situation here, we have had or been around them for years! Range rovers are the best all round car money can be! Great at field work, great in poor weather conditions, great at towing trailers or launching the boat, great at long distances! Noting comes close.

    • @malfunction8165
      @malfunction8165 Рік тому +1

      I had a Discovery 3, and it was a fantastic vehicle, all day cruising, 90 MPH to the mountain and 90 MPH up the mountain, sipping fuel and as fresh when I got out as I got in, but, but there was always a but.

    • @GoldenCroc
      @GoldenCroc Рік тому +3

      Great that you are satisfied, but saying there is nothing with the same ability in one package doesnt seem quite right, unless there is other stuff on top of what you mentioned?

    • @m.ahussain4005
      @m.ahussain4005 Рік тому +3

      I find it weird how people praise land rovers despite 90% of car enthusiasts complain abour the reliability. Which they should because when you spend that much money on a luxury car you'd expect it not to break down every 5 miles.

    • @DavidHallworth
      @DavidHallworth Рік тому

      @@GoldenCroc what do you believe has the same ability in one package?

  • @pezzonovante888
    @pezzonovante888 Рік тому +10

    When you describe the feel of being in the car as giving a sense of "warmth", you hit the nail on the head. I have an LR4/Discovery 4 (same gen. as the Range) and it is very much the same. It just feels friendly and nice. Visibility is insanely good and it has great utility. It's like a trusty companion. 225,000kms and going strong.

  • @TheSteinbitt
    @TheSteinbitt Рік тому +40

    JayEmm: dislikes EVs, considers buying old range rovers. He’s definitely a car enthusiast😂

    • @Thanos.m
      @Thanos.m Рік тому +4

      James never said he dislikes EVs if anything quite the opposite but a true car enthusiast he is !

    • @richardcarter1000
      @richardcarter1000 Рік тому +1

      An old Range Rover is a much better bet than a new EV. Make it last and it's better for the planet too.

    • @voivod6871
      @voivod6871 Рік тому +1

      He has repeatedly said that he likes EVs but he likes lots of other cars including old Range Rovers.

  • @xeboi11
    @xeboi11 Рік тому +4

    Wouldn't touch a LR product with a barge pole

  • @theuktoday4233
    @theuktoday4233 Рік тому +3

    I imagine around £10k is added to the price of every new one to cover warranty claims. If I was given a 3 year old one Id take it and sell it.
    When I was rescuing cars on the A31,M27, M3 etc the 2 makes that were on the back of the truck the most were BMW and Range Rovers.

  • @MuscleBandit
    @MuscleBandit Рік тому +6

    Cheers for that James. Of all the RR vids and reviews I've seen this one explained the years, models, engines and issues the best. Many of us want the bravery to own one but savings and knowledge are crucial for a nice experience unless you're somebody who can afford a new one of course!

  • @bradmcdonald302
    @bradmcdonald302 Рік тому +9

    Hey Jay,
    Love your videos all the way from NZ.
    Have recently bought myself an 4.2 L322 Rover and absolutely love it. Same interior and trim as the one in this video. If I had listened to everyone else (about the endless list of issues that these can suffer from) then I probably wouldn't have bought one but I am glad I did as I found a good low mileage example with service history. Super comfy, power levels are good and fuel economy is not too bad unless you spank it! My father owned a Classic and whilst they are the genesis moment I think the 3rd edition of this classic marque is the best.
    Keep up the good work.
    Cheers

  • @lagonda77
    @lagonda77 Рік тому +6

    I am perfectly happy with my 4.2 SC. It is less expensive to maintain than a Cayenne of the same era (if you do it mostly yourself of course).
    I have owned all the generations in top of the range configurations and still own my old 4.2 LSE Classic.
    All this to say that you can't argue with a Range Rover person... You either have the virus or you will never understand.
    Great channel mate!
    Cheers from Switzerland

  • @lMX14l
    @lMX14l Рік тому +2

    I loathe these things. One of many car choices for the wankers you come across daily on the roads. Generally they never go offroad, spend their days in the third lane on the motorway doing whatever speed they like or going to the nearest supermarket to hold everyone up whilst they spend 5 minutes parking their unnecessarily large car they bought for 4 grand and now think they're fucking royalty.

  • @benfel9403
    @benfel9403 Рік тому +6

    Thank you for this honest review. I do not work for or have any affiliation with Jaguar Land Rover, but there have been Range Rovers in my family for longer than I have been alive and we have NEVER had a lemon and not one of them have ever left anyone stranded on the side of the road. We still have the second one in the family waiting restoration when funds allow. It is from 1982 and passed its last MOT first go despite being laid up for years. That is a 40 year old car still on its original engine! How is that for green credentials. This unreliability wrap Land Rover gets when other makes get away with it never ceases to amaze me! More often than not all these stories of total woe come from people who have never owned one. Of course there are exceptions as with all makes. At least we can rely on you to provide a balanced review James, and for that, from someone who does not like bias, Thank You!

    • @m.ahussain4005
      @m.ahussain4005 Рік тому +1

      No one denys that older land rovers weren't reliable as they were simple touph machines. It's only the newer ones with the complex electronics and sloppy quality control that you'd see more reliability issues.

    • @philhawley1219
      @philhawley1219 Рік тому +1

      ​@@m.ahussain4005 You're right. Modern vehicles have good basic mechanical stuff. It is always some tiny but expensive electronic gizmo that fails, necessitating dismantling half the car and three days of work to replace it!

    • @benfel9403
      @benfel9403 Рік тому

      @@philhawley1219 yup :)

    • @benfel9403
      @benfel9403 Рік тому

      @@m.ahussain4005 Yeah you certainly do. They just seem to get an unfair bashing compared to other makes, that was all.

  • @absolutefencingdeckingcomm4822

    Excellent and informative review , we use a tdv8 vouge and it has traveled 145k with us usually with a 3.5 ton trailer and digger attached . It’s moved artics in the snow . Rescued an old couple in floods of 2017 and been the best car we have ever had in the company .
    In 6 years it’s had a pair of turbos a gear box service and regular service besides which it’s been trouble free motoring . Drop links and suspension arms take a pounding as do breaks but beyond which it has never ever ever broken down !
    Proof if you look after something it will look after you

  • @chrisgarside7974
    @chrisgarside7974 Рік тому +1

    Well balanced, honest review of the 322. You could have mentioned they are a truly awesome towcar 😀

  • @stuarthunter7559
    @stuarthunter7559 Рік тому +3

    I hadn't driven one until earlier this year when I had a part time COVID job driving hundreds of cars a month. I'm 59 and have always disregarded these as a useless Chelsea tractor money pit...then I drove my first one which was about 4 years old...and I fell in love. Then I drove a sport 3 litre diesel and it just got worse. I am completely smitten and every time one drives past .. which is often here in the Yorkshire dales my automotive loins ache with longing.... unfortunately it's a love that is going to remain unrequited as I just can't afford one.😥

  • @henryshu6265
    @henryshu6265 Рік тому +9

    British car manufacturers are always capable of making ultra heavy sedans/SUVs feel nice when cornering with some speed, and that's why I started to like them very much these days! Plus, as I understand more about cars, the more I like Range Rovers, not just because I had several chances to ride in one of these when I was 8~10(about 2009-2011) and Jeremy Clarkson has owned one for years, and because making an SUV that perfectly combines ride comfort, off road capability and stability is not an easy job, that's kind of incredible if you think about it

  • @matthewgodwin3050
    @matthewgodwin3050 Рік тому +1

    Love the L322. Once you've driven one, nothing else would ever do, and you'll forgive it anything because it's just so pleasing to behold.

  • @andyogrady6600
    @andyogrady6600 Рік тому +2

    You would until you get the first garage bill…….

  • @wpjohn91
    @wpjohn91 Рік тому +1

    I was sat on a tail gate as a young man on one of the gen 2 cars. The brakes gave out and i started rolling down a snowy road with one ski boot on. Was rescued by my mother before the car crashed into a snow bank. The car threw its fan a year later destroying the engine bay area. It was fixed and sold on. The family many thousands of pounds poorer.

  • @baronridgeback
    @baronridgeback Рік тому

    Well done James, yet another well presented, well informed and well balanced video. You certainly are the master of your craft. (although you really should of squeezed a sentence in on its towing capability...).
    I'm approaching 1 year of ownership of a 2012 TDV8 Autobiography. It has a genuine 54k miles and had the option boxes ticked by an original owner with more money than sense. Ignoring a major "DPF Full" limp mode issue just after a self proclaimed Land Rover Specialist in Essex had their fumbling hands on it (they "forgot" to re-attach an induction pipe...), this car has been 100% reliable. Middle of France and back with family and a 2 tonne 2.5m (8.0') wide caravan in tow was a 950 mile relaxed, stress free pleasure.
    Yes, you do have to ensure the maintenance is kept up by someone who really knows what they are doing, and yes, you are well advised to keep short journeys to a minimum and keep the car for the longer runs. But wow, this car just keeps on impressing even though i've owned more modern top spec alternative cars in recent years. Then factor that you can now fix the one thing that dates this car - the infotainment system, by adding Apple CarPlay without loosing any of the original features, this car is now just a delight to live with - despite the highish running costs.

  • @davidhayes4814
    @davidhayes4814 Рік тому +1

    Great video, as always. The fuel economy you quote is virtually the same as my daily driver, an old Boxer Camper van with 110PS….. although it seems even less.

  • @scalecrawlnl
    @scalecrawlnl Рік тому +8

    Love a Range Rover, altough for the daily I would take a Landcruiser. Could be fun you getting one of these for the coming Winter months. Make a compare & contrast video with It's Joel :-) Curious to hear if I may, your motorcycle resurrection project, how is it going? Thank you James, a fun review!

  • @eze8970
    @eze8970 Рік тому

    Thanks J, glad you liked it! Perhaps you need something 4x4/some off road capability in your fleet?🙏🙏

  • @robstone4537
    @robstone4537 Рік тому +5

    I have owned four Landrovers over my lifetime and that’s why I now own a Toyota Prado.

  • @CrazedCrittic
    @CrazedCrittic Рік тому +3

    Damn you Jason.. that's another car I've just put a deposit on as a result of this channel. This will be my fourth. the first being a 1970 classic back in 1985. Followed on by two more P38's, both of which were horrendous money pits. One with a porous block, the other needed a compressor and two suspension air ride bags replacing. A Range Rover is not a car - it is a way of life. New car arrives on Friday :)

  • @bryanquinn1122
    @bryanquinn1122 Рік тому +2

    I loved my L322 TDV8 89.000 miles and no issues
    Best car I’ve ever owned sadly sold it.😢

  • @lankisaari
    @lankisaari Рік тому +1

    Finally a review from you Jay! I bought mine (4.4 TDV8) a month ago after years of contemplation and absolutely love it. Get a PPI, be realistic of the repairs needed, and go in with eyes wide open.

  • @print-master
    @print-master Рік тому +1

    in the shop 3 months of the year and i bet 5 grand later, I'll keep my merc thank you that only ever sees a shop when serviced

  • @ericrawson2909
    @ericrawson2909 Рік тому +1

    My local pub landlord has one. Fills the pub with horrible diesel fumes whenever he pulls up outside. Apart from that, a nice motor.

  • @peterj5751
    @peterj5751 Рік тому +2

    It’s such a pity that there seems to be a cultural aversion at Landrover to making a reliable car. They could be fantastic but the constant problems would drive me insane.

  • @callum646
    @callum646 Рік тому +2

    Mine was one of the cheapest on auto trader, 4.4tdv8, 163k on the clock, 2 owners, owned for a year and didn't put one foot out of place, travelling up and down the country many times, pulling trailers and even a few days greenlaning, absolutely stunning vehicle

    • @MRFUCKOFF202
      @MRFUCKOFF202 Рік тому

      I always wonder with these things if it's better buying one at that sort of mileage than say 90k. As long as the engine/gearbox don't explode the rest of it has probably already been replaced...

  • @pedromanafaia
    @pedromanafaia Рік тому

    Proper car person conclusion. Thank you for another great video.

  • @gwilko6452
    @gwilko6452 Рік тому

    I have had my 2004 4.4 v8 petrol l322 for a year now. It is definitely a love hate affair. Its cost me 4 k to buy and another £1500 on repairs or servicing. You are never without a warning light but for the money nothing comes close to comfort, room , versatile and onwards. Couldn't live without one now. I only use mine for family holidays and weekends.Amazing vehicles

  • @kiwirangerover6052
    @kiwirangerover6052 Рік тому

    Great video watching from here in New Zealand

  • @kevinblaylock9883
    @kevinblaylock9883 Рік тому

    Great video! I've owned a classic, P38, l322 Range rovers and loved all of them . However the l322 I've owned now for 5 years and will not part with it. Great car!
    Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @IndependenceCityMotoring
    @IndependenceCityMotoring Рік тому +1

    I have one (2004 HSE with the BMW M62 V8 motor). It's great as a second vehicle for hauling- but not something you should rely on as a primary vehicle. Prices on the air struts used to be super expensive but now there are a bunch of inexpensive aftermarket ones (~$180/each). The ZF transmissions are weak but if you baby them (eg. roll out from a stop before accelerating) they can last.

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks Рік тому +1

    Awesome car considered buying one to explore mountains around me however only spares or way too high garage queens were on sale.

  • @vailydragon
    @vailydragon Рік тому

    Great review. Well done.

  • @FleetAdmiral215
    @FleetAdmiral215 Рік тому +1

    I absolutely love the later L322's & if they we're as reliable as my 2015 Mercedes ML I'd buy one tomorrow, James as always Great Video

  • @paulwilliams2862
    @paulwilliams2862 3 місяці тому

    Love the vid!!!
    I live in the suburbs, close to the M25- but mine has been invaluable and a good friend- I tow our horse trailer with it, we regularly go to Cornwall in it, a couple times 5 up with a dog and all our luggage for a week away and food! All swallowed up without the need for any roof box! Even with the introduction of the ulez near me I refused to sell her and got a 645ci for the ulez trips!!! I’ll never be without a Range Rover again!!!!

  • @pad3357
    @pad3357 Рік тому +1

    Jeezus that lorry at 9:00, did he forget to put parking brake on why he went for a piss.

  • @olivermboya3857
    @olivermboya3857 Рік тому +3

    I can understand the Evoque seeming a bit pointless in the UK however in foreign markets like Kenya where occasional off roading can sometimes be a lot less occasional it is a great choice for those looking for a light off-roader that is not the size of a bus. It may not look like it, but I challenge you to explore the off-road capability of that machine....I was very surprised and believe me you will be too.

  • @cameronwood1994
    @cameronwood1994 Рік тому +1

    Those Pirelli Scorpion Zero's are actually the standard fitment road tyre, along with the Goodyear Wrangler HP. The optional off-road fitment was the Goodyear Wrangler MT/R, later on the (slightly more road biased) Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac.
    One thing I will say, at least the L322 only came with the TDV8. The L405 came with the option of the closely related TDV6 also used in the Discovery 3 and 4, and they are known for a chocolate crankshaft. I mean, just Google it!

  • @williamchandler2558
    @williamchandler2558 Рік тому

    2003 HSE through a bizarre in New Mexico ,on iced up road ,snowpack roads handled perfect. Amazing car in the snow.

  • @13polidori
    @13polidori Рік тому

    Excellent review.Honest.

  • @andrewtwinam8528
    @andrewtwinam8528 Рік тому +2

    My Brother has a supercharged V8 and was pulling his caravan up the A75 in France from Lodeve and it was down to 8Mpg lol...

  • @vido4x4
    @vido4x4 11 місяців тому +1

    Owned an LR4, wife totaled it, bought an L322. Nice ride but I found it incredibly unreliable. Replaced driver front air strut, wiper motor (been driving cars for 30 years-never had one die on me before) then the climate control panel started failing and I had an intermittent speed restriction warning that would pop up then go away. More parts failed just can’t remember which ones and probably too long to list. Sold it and went back to the LR4 which I find more reliable and the parts aren’t as expensive as a L322.

  • @CraigStephenson
    @CraigStephenson Рік тому +1

    All the tailgates rust, the sills rust at the rear terribly if you pull the sill covers off to have a look. My 59 plate had both these issues, and then the gearbox started slipping when cold so I gave up and sold it on. Had it a year and felt lucky to get out fairly unscathed.

  • @tofinobeach7093
    @tofinobeach7093 Рік тому +1

    It's "look I'm a wanker" tag that puts me off ever getting one

  • @karsnoordhuis4351
    @karsnoordhuis4351 Рік тому +2

    I got so close to buying one of these but the cost to keep one on the road was a bit too high unfortunately. This design along with the disco 3 have aged really well i think.

  • @AdamLeask
    @AdamLeask Рік тому +1

    I fell in love with the L322 Rangie after seeing it as the star of Torchwood. Would still love to make a replica of that vehicle one day.

  • @Alan_Mac
    @Alan_Mac Рік тому

    Fair review. I have a TD V8 with 130K on the clock and it is a fantastic vehicle. The bit you missed, though, is that it simply the best thing ever for towing boats, trailers or horseboxes.

  • @grahamcoffer1720
    @grahamcoffer1720 Рік тому

    Great content once again

  • @max_h98
    @max_h98 Рік тому +1

    As soon as Jay said “yeah I would” I was sold

  • @johnmccaffery2542
    @johnmccaffery2542 Рік тому

    Great video Jay

  • @jackfrear3537
    @jackfrear3537 Рік тому +11

    Another great video James but, damn it, I'd only just talked myself out of getting a late L322. Between you and another great channel (Sam's motor and machine) I'm now back up to my eyes in the classifieds

    • @pedromanafaia
      @pedromanafaia Рік тому

      Lol

    • @KenEdwardsz
      @KenEdwardsz Рік тому

      Same here!🙄

    • @rotorhead5006
      @rotorhead5006 Рік тому

      Same here too... although found Sam as part of my research. Couldn't quite bring myself to pull the trigger as my only car!
      18 months on, and I still have regrets!!! 😂

  • @Shar.sexton
    @Shar.sexton Рік тому

    I bought an L322 a year ago , 13,000 miles later and I LOVE HER TDV8 lucky owner

  • @peterlinley6520
    @peterlinley6520 Рік тому

    I watched a similar review by Harry's Garrage before buying my 2009 3.6tdv8 Westminster... never regretted it. I love it.

  • @almac414
    @almac414 Рік тому +2

    I'd argue your point on the Evoque, it's a great and very capable small off roader. Not everyone lives in central London, and not everyone needs a huge car to drive around in. I'm looking at an L322 because I want the space to throw bikes, climbing kit, skis, camping kit and kayaks in/on and still have a bit of space to move. I want the off road capability because when there are red snow warnings that's when I head out to have fun in the mountains (oh, and I live in the city so will no doubt be judged heavily by most). Conversely my dad doesn't need any of that space, but does want a nice car that's well spec'd and comfortable, but also wants similar ability to deal with nasty conditions, reasonably rough Land Rover tracks to get the dog out, and also deal with the absolutely destroyed roads in the north of Scotland in winter before they repair them for the tourists in the summer. The Evoque for him and where he lives is perfect, apart from the aforementioned JLR reliability! People love to diss it because it's 'not a proper RR' or that most of them they see are in towns (erm, where are most FFRR's parked?), but the reality is that it ticks a very niche box that for some people is absolutely perfect. What else from the other stables is as competent on dirt/snow and still relatively compact? Audi/BMW/Merc etc? You're having a laugh. The Rav4 is more reliable but not capable of actual off roading really, and neither is the Lexus equivalent. I had it up the Bealach na Ba a few winters ago in 4" snow with ice underneath and it was absolutely perfect. Sure footed, capable and good going both up and down. No stress or drama, and that's on a road many tourists have palpitations on even in summer.

  • @lewis72
    @lewis72 Рік тому

    You're right.
    I can't quite remember all of the engine codes now (I'm sure they'll be on Wiki) but the 4.4 V8 N/A was specific to the Range Rover.

  • @timsaxon5825
    @timsaxon5825 Рік тому

    Great vid, and killer shirt.

  • @benjones1917
    @benjones1917 Рік тому

    Fantastic. My P38 is a total pain in the arse, and I've had to almost completely rebuild it, but I still love it. Looking at current prices, i could be tempted to add an L322 to the fleet. I have the Range Rover virus for sure ❤️

  • @jeejkee6471
    @jeejkee6471 Рік тому +1

    Now I want one, thanks a lot. Im just recovering from my Jag.

  • @cblack1green
    @cblack1green Рік тому

    Like many I have had a lot of Range Rovers over the years, for me my supercharged sport, new shape has been the best for me, the size is about right round country lanes and the fact it’s Petrol I don’t have the dreaded DPF full light keep coming on. It’s quite happy to run on E10 petrol as well.

  • @Scania370
    @Scania370 Рік тому

    I have an Overfinch L322 3.6. 320hp 600ftlbs, its an amazing car,I love it. I also had a TD6 before which I loved, although it was not very quick. And before that I had a P38 4.0 V8 with a Turner engine which was proper quick and very reliable and a cracking car. I love Range Rovers. Just keep them well serviced including the Transmission.

  • @Mikethrawn
    @Mikethrawn 11 місяців тому

    Great vid! Cheers!

  • @richardcarter1000
    @richardcarter1000 Рік тому +2

    I've got a late L322. It's brilliant. Done 135k miles in mine now, 100k of them with me. Only had minor issues. Just buy a good one and maintain it with a good specialist. Avoid the main dealers.

    • @MrDunosan
      @MrDunosan Рік тому

      which specialist do you go to?

  • @richardsmith9138
    @richardsmith9138 Рік тому +1

    Speaking from experience; if you can’t afford a new one you can’t afford an old one,

  • @paulleggett9735
    @paulleggett9735 Рік тому +2

    Jay, any chance of a "state of the nation" type video? Lots of cars not seen for a while.. S2000, the bx gti, celica etc.. Would be nice to get a brief update.

  • @alexandrecouture2462
    @alexandrecouture2462 Рік тому +1

    You know what, I dislike SUVs, but you know what, I like this one.

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 Рік тому

      Drinking game... watch a bunch of JayEmm videos, take a shot every time he says "but you know what" until you pass out or have to be taken to A&E to get your stomach pumped...

  • @ian7675
    @ian7675 Рік тому +3

    We had an Evoque and new Discovery, we absolutely loved both of them. They had issues as expected however the dealership collected the cars straight away and dropped off a courtesy car before returning ours in no time at all. We were never stranded or left without a vehicle and there was absolutely no quibbling. The service was outstanding throughout ownership. Despite issues, we’d definitely have another.

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 Рік тому +2

      Really? JLR dealers have a terrible reputation overall, I'm staggered to hear a good story!

    • @ian7675
      @ian7675 Рік тому +1

      @@richardharrold9736 yes they were fantastic.

  • @TheBucketOfTruth
    @TheBucketOfTruth Рік тому

    We've had a 2008 in the family since new and they definitely live up to their reputations both on the positive and negative side. I had a good run with it in my care for a long while with no major issues aside from brakes and coil packs, but now the A/C compressor has gone as well as something up with the engine misfiring. We had kept it because it drove far too well for the pittance we were offered for it years ago. We have the 2006-2009 era 4.2 supercharged Jag V8 which is said to be the most robust of all of these, so I'd hate to see what others have gone through. I've taken it off road multiple times and even got compliments on the car when fitted with the 19 inch LR4 wheels with mud terrain tires on it. Wonderful car if you can stand the potential headache. The only place it truly shows its age is with connectivity. Would love CarPlay in the old girl.

  • @jamesmacd
    @jamesmacd Рік тому

    Great video. I have just got an l322... yes we live in the countryside in Scotland. Love it so far... got money aside to fix it when it goes wrong. 🤣 I also hate suv's but range rovers are the exception to the rule!

  • @simonk337
    @simonk337 Рік тому

    Have you done a disco? I quite fancy a late 3 or early 4. Love that shirt btw 🤘

  • @sheilamorrison1954
    @sheilamorrison1954 Рік тому

    4.4 tdv8 is the pick. Strong MPG and 400hp mapped. Its moved but is sooooooooooo comfortable.

  • @dwarfyh32
    @dwarfyh32 Рік тому

    If you check out Harry's Farm review of the new defender that he was sending back he said he was reverting back to his L322 for towing because it was a far better tow car not just because of the air suspension but the positioning of the hitch. Says a lot for what is 20yr old tech that it is still up there for hard working duties that the current crop cant do any better

  • @franciscocabrerabrito5945
    @franciscocabrerabrito5945 Рік тому +2

    It's no secret they need you to have a money reserve for issues. But the reward when don't have any makes it worth the money. L322 is to me the peak Range Rover. Even the queen used to drive a L322 when the next model was already on sale. Last true range rover. The next ones are footballers and rappers dailys.

  • @timorgano
    @timorgano Рік тому

    9:00 Check out the fast reversing lorry in the background.

  • @ftty4334
    @ftty4334 Рік тому

    you can't go wrong, I have had a td6 for 12 years, hasn't missed a beat

  • @happychappers8311
    @happychappers8311 Рік тому +2

    Only two types of people buy landrovers. Those who really love them and those who have never owned one before.

  • @seigma5340
    @seigma5340 Рік тому +3

    The Range Rover is pretty much the only SUV, together with the Land Cruiser, that actually appeals me. At the same time, I think I never found myself able to justify the purchase of one, I think you have to use the off-road capabilities of this thing to say "ok, that's the car I need", and realistically, most of the time I would find myself doing just fine with an old Volvo XC70, probably the kind of car I'm gonna buy soon for my future trips.

    • @GoldenCroc
      @GoldenCroc Рік тому

      Just about no one in the west is really off roading more than what the car you mentioned or an audi allroad or something similar offers. So you are quite right.

  • @jakeflicks
    @jakeflicks Рік тому +1

    I hope someone offers you a Land Cruiser to drive so you can compare it with the Range Rover

  • @Lukeywoodsey
    @Lukeywoodsey Рік тому +2

    Surprised this managed the whole road test. I work with people who used to work at JLR and there's stories of people getting delivered their new car and it doesn't start, or they go to pick it up from a dealer and it doesn't start

    • @Djpaul-lo1px
      @Djpaul-lo1px Рік тому

      I also know a guy that was a Jaguar Land Rover development engineer and strangely enough just yesterday had a conversation about the questionable reliability and issues they had literally from new. The fact he said “ I would rather have a Mercedes ML” tells you all you need to know.

  • @SabotsLibres
    @SabotsLibres Рік тому

    A lot of BMW input went into the P38 - the BEOS was almost directly lifted from the BMW 7 series, for instance.

  • @MF-jp5vp
    @MF-jp5vp Рік тому +1

    DON'T DO IT!!!! Recently got rid of my 2 year old Range Rover for a Maserati Lavante......so much more reliable!

  • @johngriffin641
    @johngriffin641 Рік тому

    The 3.6 is one to avoid. EGR valves which fail and eat the turbos ( not if but when) and the ZF 6 speed which has issues. They eventually got it right with the 4.4 and the ZF 8 speed. I bought one and now can’t go back to other cars…..

  • @steffydog
    @steffydog Рік тому

    Lovely to see, cheers

  • @carlgeorgtsigakis498
    @carlgeorgtsigakis498 Рік тому

    Very timely, considering one of these, even though I have owned a Disco 2 for 22 years.. hehehe

  • @neilmckay8649
    @neilmckay8649 Рік тому

    2:16 a car like that, that can cause actual madness ... brilliantly put.