Whitecourt: Extended video of house fire air & ground battle 5-17-2023
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Complete extensive 30+ minute multi-camera footage compilation of Wednesday May 17th 2023 fully involved house fire battled from crews on the ground as well as from a helicopter in the air. No word yet on the cause of this inferno but crews managed to protect exposures and the forest in the immediate vicinity. The house was spotted going up in flames in the early afternoon on Township Road 592 east of the corner of Highway 32 in Whitecourt, Alberta, Canada.
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Unless you understand rural firefighting with limited resources (water), and exactly what is available in that area….zip the lips!!🤐
I couldn’t live rural without having a water tower on my property. Even a smallish one would help me sleep. Unless a water source like a pool or pond was easily accessible.
Bad ass! I was thinking what ARE they doing to the copter! Then lift off and bad a bag! How cool. ❤ fire fighters rock, real hero’s.
To 4K guy, electric malfunctions cause fires. Propane leak? Cooking inside or out? One massive mansion in Dallas burned from an electric pump in the waterfall in a courtyard. Ty for covering it, it’s fascinating to see our FD hero’s in action.
I live in a small town in the ozarks.... here if your house catches fire you better hope you can put it out yourself because our volunteer and regular fire department will just let it burn to the ground... they don't try to save it they just make sure it doesn't catch anything else on fire
Considering what limits they had for water they did IMO a fantastic job. Pilot made good dumps. It's a sad situation you can tell fire wish they could of done more.
Nice job covering this fire operation. That chopper pilot saved the day. He should be awarded.
Hey bravo to the pilot and heliattack crew those Bambi buckets hit the fire hard
The crew didn’t even cut line around the fire ! What’s up with that ? My crew and I did that on many structure fires to contain it to the area of origin on very rural locations !
@@jimwattenburger4545 I see what you're saying brother maybe they had heard that the structure fire units were coming in but yup I hear you be safe and have a great weekend
When you can see the black smoke from that far away, the problem is already huge.
To put out a house, let alone other buildings, you must have more than one engine and a steady water supply.
If not, all you can do is control and contain it. Even then it will be hard.
There's only so many miracles that fire crews can pull. Using the chopper is a smart move considering the location but it's not available everywhere.
These firefighters used what little water they had, and probably saved the exposure structure. It’s too easy to criticize, but just look at how many buckets were dumped on that fire and it still continued to burn.
thanks 4K for showing us a different scenario of the techniques on fighting fire in a remote area with limited supplies and personnel. this is a great content.
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Oh, SOOO many experts !
Props to the helo crew. It’s a private company and they had to have seen it while they were in the area for something else. Normally you wouldn’t use bucket drops on a structure. But they did what they could.
When this fire broke I was at the airport 5 minutes away. I had just been talking with the Taiga helicopters crew to see if they had a flight I could book. None of the private companies did as they were on standby since the start of the fires to help firefighters and officials being transported somewhere. Since the chopper in the video is from a private company, perhaps based out of that airport, I wonder could they have received a call from the regular 911 dispatch center about the fire?
@@pascalmarch the fire dept there could already have a working relationship with them or knew they were in the area and had their dispatch contact the company. On the companies website it says they do do fire suppression. Just like the Coulson Air Attack tankers that are sent worldwide on a contract basis for state and federal fire departments. They are used a lot here in Southern California during fire season. So they could of had a contract with the province to maybe patrol for fires.
They got out with wildland gear on, but it’s nothing special just flame retardant clothing, so they could use them for the patrol or they do power line patrol in the area looking for hazards.
But they had to have some sort of agreement as even if they donated the time, fuel and the use of their aircraft to help the community for that fire, it looks like they were pulling water out of a pond on someone’s property.
Usually when a helicopter does that, the owner is reimbursed by the agency or government the costs to replace the water used as it could easily be a few thousand dollars to refill it. If it’s on a well system or something, that could be a huge electric bill. That area is for sure on an electric well, and there would be no city water since there were zero hydrants in the area.
Either way it was a good catch to see them landing and rigging the Bambi bucket and leaving a few crew members there so they can coordinate from the ground where to drop.
The helicopter is on contract to the Alberta Government. The 3 guys that got out of the helicopter are part of a Helitack crew from Alberta Wildfire. Due to the large forest fires in the area, last week I counted 3 Air Tanker groups and 11 contracted helicopters at the Whitecourt Airport
@@hilarybouzek9993 Awesome intel
Rural with no water makes it worse. Ponds are always a good idea where possible in these locations. Keeping trees and vegetation trimmed back from structure also is helpful. Looks like they did that here. My neighbor, here where I live, likes his privacy and has thick brush and tree growth right up to his home and I've always wondered what would happen if he had a fire. I keep mine clear cut to prevent brush fire damage to my home as well as keep rattle snakes down. There was a brush fire not far from here a few years ago that took out 20 homes in a matter of minutes. Some residents nearly got caught in their burning homes. In this video, the aerial attack was certainly a value in preventing spread through the forest.
Yeah I was also thinking that aerial attack was so necessary because wildland fires are a hell to fight.
I agree that the home owner did a decent job of clearing vegetation from his properties otherwise there could have been a big problem.
First video I have watched with water drop on a house fire…fascinating
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Sending PRAYERS😢😢😢 This is so TERRIBLE!!!
Easy to find fault when you're not there
Props to the firefighters for protecting exposed structures. Thank goodness no one was injured, or worse. It’s interesting watching a fire fighting technique I never knew was utilized. Awesome video skills. You gained a new subscriber!
Thank you!
Terrible for the family that live there.
smart of them to use the foam my old dept had that on our engine 1 its almost like concentrated dish soap just helps the water stay on a surface a bit longer and actually helps cool things quicker
Prayers no one is hurt😢
Unfortunately this was the best thing to do with limited resources (water supply), protect exposures and let it burn. As much as it sucks and feeling helpless. And if you're going to have a home this far out, invest in a fire sprinkler system to be installed.
Good job pilot and thanks to the quick thinking of the Fire Department they saved that rv from becoming ablaze as well
What area or county was this fire in ?
Whitecourt, Alberta, Canada and I believe it is Yellowhead County
@@pascalmarch woodlands
They had that Bambi hooked up so quickly.
Is that what you call the bucket? To me, the helicopter crew seemed they had everything done so quickly it almost looked like this was just another common procedure for fighting a house fire. Then, by the next 30 min they had ten vehicles from several agencies, the road blocked both ways by cops and a command post set up at the front of the property. This looked like a pretty well executed intervention and it's hard to believe so much ressources took part in it even if we were in the middle of nowhere.
@@pascalmarch Yes, Bambi bucket. A Canadian invention at that.
WOW! What was the cause?
A lot of people I overheard at the scene said they thought it was suspicious that the owner wanted to sell the house for a while. The neighbors also said a car was parked at the house earlier that day but not at the time of the fire as well as pointing out that it seems the origin of the fire is at the rear in the deck area.
I wish that when people want to burn their home, that they would contact the fire department, so that the fire department can set up operations with the other departments so that the structure can be safely burned.
Police to evacuate people and control access,
Ambulance crews to treat and transport anyone who gets harmed,
Portable tanks, and enough tankers to keep the portable tanks full,
And enough apparatus to keep the fire under control.
@@pascalmarch he was looking to sell the house after his wife passed away earlier before, but iirc the cause was from a kitchen appliance malfunction. the home property belonged to a friend's grandfather so I was getting updates on it from my friend and the aftermath.
HOW LONG DID THE FIRE TOOK TO PUT OUT FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE VIDEO TO THE END?
Those log cabins are BUILT
Did you notice even the burned out sections still had structure to them. Nothing besides the roof ever completely collapsed in that cabin. I fully agree those things really are built like a rock.
Looked like a nice house.
it was. he spend a good amount of money building his home. his family was devastated when they found out, you can even hear his daughter in the background around 35:50 upset and stressed out.
First water drop got almost nothing on the house
Purposely
Looked like the first drop was to protect the engine that had just arrived.
And I live in the woods, on a rural department.
Sucks to be all dressed up and no water.
Been there.
Have a big pond and buy an older but decent fire truck or have a pump built in with a lot of hose at the ready. I’d rather never have to use it than not have it
I think they are using water drop on this house fire
that second screen is very annoyong
Mil Bombeiros e não conseguem apagar o fogo!!!!
This house is total loss
DEW man
Aces to the helicopter pilot. He did all the work putting out the fire while the firemen on the ground only put water on the other things to save them but I didn't like it because they didn't even try to help put the house fire out
They couldn't. There wasn't enough of a water supply to even touch a fire of that size so they did the best option they had available and protected the surrounding structures to make sure a bad problem didn't get any worse. People think it's bad to let a structure burn, but honestly in a rural area like that while fighting a structure for is hard fighting a wildfire because the surrounding trees weren't protected is an absolute nightmare.
Ye trespassing is a great ticket straight to court😂
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Lekker!
I don't understand departments refusal to use deck guns or 2.5 inch lines. I am certain a remote department like this has tankers and portable water tanks
A standard tip on a deck gun and 2.5 line would've run an engine dry 3 minutes. Where's the next water coming from? How will you protect exposures with no water?
@@josephbyler4844I guess personally from me my only question is do they not have a hard line pumper capable of drafting from the pond the helicopter is scooping water from? It seems that would be an ideal source and way to go for a rural department like this, but I'm guessing they probably do not have a pumper capable of drafting like that. Correct me if I'm wrong on either of those points.
@@josephbyler4844 doesn't help that you are 10 minutes one way to the closest fire department, and commercial water plant and have one tender shared between the county and municipal department either.
@@chronically.advocating the helicopter was pulling water from the river about 1km south of the fire. it isnt feasible to set a pumper by the river because the closes road access ends about 200 meters from the water, and would have to be pulled through the middle of a campground, which is why they brought in the helicopter.
How does a fire start? I can’t believe that question..careless smoking, something on the stove, electrical. Lithium batteries..the list goes on and on
This is all beyond idiodic. Just let it burn, don't even make a attempt at putting it out. Im glad you captured these clowns on video
Let me see. Firefighters show up and Then what? If you show up with an engine with 1000 gallons of water, a deck gun, booster lines and 1-3/4" lines, you can have water flowing in 30-40 seconds. With that one tank alone, that fire could have been knocked down in the first minute of arrival. So, with that in mind, what the heck was going on here?
Looked like they were mostly just protecting exposures and then either waiting for tankers or just letting the helicopter fight the structure fire. Idk the house was a goner anyway from the looks of it
Most engines of that size don’t carry a thousand gallons, usually around 500. To extinguish a fire like that would require many thousands. You don’t risk exposures for a structure that is already gone. They did the right thing to use the resources they had to protect the surrounding exposures. The deployment of foam was evidence of a very limited water supply. Don’t armchair quarterback situations like his.
Side note: a deck gun will empty that engine in 45 seconds, not enough to extinguish that fire.
Spoken like someone who has never worked a fire in his life...
Someone who's only firefighting experience is playing on the floor with his Lego Fire Station set
@@kyle54679
Dont waste your time...
Ole JB outed himself as a phony years ago
How devastating for this poor family, so very sorry this happened! Yo all men and women fighting this fire from land and air, thank you for all you did and do!! Its hard when living so rurally with being limited. I know what its like. I truly hope everyone is okay and blessings the all of you!! Stay safe!
If you point the hose at the fire and pull the lever water comes out.
And if u dont pull the lever u keep enough water to save the winnebago and the other building dumbass
Heartbreaking seeing the firefighters standing there helpless, rural settings make it hard to fight a big fire if there's no hydrants close by, foam only goes so far and the heli can only go so fast and carry so much, good thing they had a water source close by, good job to the guys that were there doing what they could
It goes out quicker if you put the wet stuff on the red stuff 😅 my hat is off to y'all I was in service for about 10 years in a semi rural area and not having water supply waiting on tankers to shuttle for a mile or more it sucked big time.
It was great to see the helicopter putting down water so the woods didn't catch fire. The firefighters had an uphill battle on their hands but did an outstanding job with what they had. Good job covering the fire except I wish you'd clean up your language. It does not become you. Stay safe.
I agree that your language needs cleaning up. You could have edited a bit better.
I think the reason the wildfire smoke jumpers were utilized was due to the extremely dry spring of 2023, so embers from the house fire could have sparked a wildfire, so I think they were used as precaution.
Do they not have high pressure irrigation pumps there? Here in southeast Minnesota and Southwest Wisconsin we have those every about 3 miles and they also serve as rural fire service hookups putting out as much volume and pressure as a standard hydrant. I mean otherwise they did an excellent job with what they had on hand, and I'm very proud of the job they did. Okay I got a good laugh out of that lady falling on her rear at the end of the video 😂
Honestly I hope she's okay, but it was worth the chuckle.
Better to protect the other buildings and the camper and write off the house with the water supply they got log cabins most of the top and all will burn off and the logs won’t burn up right away so they let the consumables burn off and then put the logs out it’s frustrating as hell to watch them just stand there but with limited water that’s all they can do
Thank. God. No. One. Was. Inside. When. It. Went. Up. In. Flames
Extinguishment of a structure fire by Helicopter is amazing !! by the way, I love your Camera -What is it??
For this one I used S22 + P1000
These guys did a good job even with limited water supply and thanks to the helicopter with aerial water it makes difference to the guys on the ground trying to put this fire out and trying to save the structure at the same time as it's hard
Why did they give outa water so quick they should have backup water trucks..... good job to the helicopter crew's.
Nice catch of the water bucket hook-up.
Thanks, this whole operation seemed to happened so fast and was very impressive to me!
@pascalmarch It's a very unique operation that you captured very well. The fire fighter's and helicopter pilot handled that perfectly. Limited water supply and were able to contain that fire.
@@daveschwartz5893 But how much of the use of a helicopter is due to the fact that there were wildfires nearby, in another regular summer day would they have used a helicopter for a house fire?
@pascalmarch that's a good question. Probably not I'm gonna say. I mean, it's very unorthodox to bucket a structure fire. That's just my thinking. It's also very expensive and dangerous.
They need water supply
Where are the fire trucks
hope no one was injured
nope, nobody was home at the time and even the fridge and freezer were still in tact and still cold too!
Rural fire is a different animal, sometimes gets frustrating, when water is hard 2 come by.nice 2 have a pond 2 draft from
Put out the fire ??
Those mongrels stood there and watched a house burn down with a hose full off water. With the time of the video you could have got extra tankers of water there as support.
If it wasn`t for the Helicopter, there wouldn`t have been any water put on fire.
Water goes on fire on original structure not wait for it get out of hand
You don’t risk losing the exposures. We’ve lost multiple structures to gung-ho fire who just want to battle a fire. That structure was lost, even if a good water supply was available. Obvious choice is to not lose others. You can see they were using foam, so obviously a very limited water supply available.
@@randall39 Otay
The original structure was already lost by the time enough resources reach the scene to accomplish much. The exposure structure will give them a place to live while deciding whether to rebuild, how to rebuild, and when. A little additional space in the motorhome, which they were also protecting.
Unless you have been up close and personal with a structure fire with flames pushing out of the windows like it’s coming from a jet engine, you cannot imagine how intense it is. I have only once, and I will never forget it and it was a relatively small structure.
No point wasting water in a complete loss that will burn itself out and need to be bulldozed anyway. The priority was protecting exposures. That goes for any fire anywhere. Stuff within 50 feet of a fire can catch fire both outside and inside of walls. So you have to cool nearby exposures.
@@PTRRanger951 In addition to that, Alberta is in the midst of a horrendous wildfire season. For the responding FF's, preventing the start of another wildfire would be a top priority. Thankfully, it didn't seem to be very windy.
Whitecourt has no more emergency services, they are all here at the BBQ.
They might as well take their gear off and go home they were absolutely useless. Thank god for some proactive helicopter work!!!
Dumb and dumber on hose line
Disband. What an absolutely inept FD. If you’re organizing to provide fire protection services for a community, you make damn sure you build in capacity and capability to do so. One FF is turning off propane how long into involvement? Commander and chief standing out on a dirt road observing while the helicopter burns up its transmission doing the heavy lift by themselves. What an outrage.
The chief or command officers are normally well AWAY from any incident. That is standard practice anywhere. They normally don’t even want a view of the incident.
Second the helicopter is NOT a fire helo, it’s a private company. And it’s a rural area. Not everywhere can have a fire station within 3 miles drive of any emergency. In a rural area is can take an hour or long for emergency service to arrive, and it’s all volunteer. Meaning whoever was free that day to respond ends up responding. Might be one person, might be 30, might be none.
The structure was a complete loss, there is no point wasting what little water is there on the building when the focus is making sure it doesn’t spread to the surrounding areas. There is nothing to save on a complete loss it will be bulldozed anyway. So let it burn out by itself when you may only have 1,000 gallons of water that can be used up in 3 minutes.
nope. I know many guys that are currently on that department and am close friends with some of them as well as some retired ones. they are one of the few highly trained volunteer departments in the entire province. not to mention they didn't even have to respond to it as it was outside municipal boundaries making it the county's problem.