@@RowdyLpx - Inflation post pandemic was driving off of the govement handing out trillions directly to the middle and lower class. If that isn't inflationary I don't know what is. That money have since been burned off and we are now entering a more normal economic environment.
@RowdyLpx - Priced out of the housing market? If housing prices are so high then who are one ones that keep buying homes and keeping the price up? There's a lot of wealth out there, and the ones that have it are still willing to spend it. Also, don't turn this into a generational thing. Anybody regardless of age can learn how to manage money and build if they're motivated. I would argue that due to technology young people today have far more opportunity to build wealth than their older counterparts.
@@RowdyLpx - Let get real. After the 2008 housing crisis anybody could have bought a home dirt cheap but nobody wanted to because who would want to own a depreciating asset? These 'evil' corporations actually saved the housing market which was in free-fall by buying them up at a tremendous risk. Now the shoes on the other foot, home prices are appreciating and we conveniently ignore the fact that people are simply being compensated for taking the risk. Classic example of 'if it was so easy, everyone would do it'.
@@RowdyLpxthis is true but it’s not the bigger problem. The federal reserve doubled the money supply recently. When this happened everything went up. They never should have done this.
@@RowdyLpx AP- Seattle introduced a mandatory $5 fee on delivery apps to cover their driver’s living wage and sales were almost cut in half. Now the drivers can’t make rent.
It's too late for this now, and people are changing their spending habits too. We are past peak delivery-app era. These companies made their money and it's all just down hill for everyone who participates in this. I haven't used these delivery apps in Seattle since 2018, so I can only imagine how expensive it is nowadays with all the added fees, and no one wants to pay $30 for a $15 order and that's not even including the tip. Absolutely insane.
Tips are going down, because everyone is tired of tipping... the delivery market is saturated... when everyone and their mom is a delivery driver side hustle, when it used to be restaurant and catering business dependent... Not everyone is rich enough to afford regular delivered food as it is with the cost of food also going up. Maybe its time we go out and touch grass, and socialize again... Maybe this super convenience economy is destroying us.
@@alooga555 I can read just fine, dude 👍 What do you think delivery drivers should get paid? The minimum payout is $2.25 per delivery, go ahead, tell us. In my opinion getting paid any less would be doing it for free. $5 is pretty reasonable and if someone doesn’t like it they can go get the food themselves. Didn’t mean to make you so butthurt, my bad, dude 🤣
@@lordhoweproductions3733 no one’s forcing these people to deliver food, you know. Things worked just fine until the idiotic Seattle city Council members weighed in.
People started treating it as a full time job, it was meant to be a side gig but now it’s double the price to order something? Plus tip? I’ll just go myself 😂
@@vshah1010 So in the quest to be paid fairly, the person who was on the video made 931 this week last year made 464 this week , this year. Half as much sounds really fair. What happens when you try to "help" people without regard to basic economics. Maybe try to help people by cutting some government taxes and spending? Oh, sorry what was I thinking.
@@abbieandus It's just DoorDash playing games such as cutting trips in Seattle to retaliate. They are also fooling customers by putting a charge and a message saying that the extra cost is because of the new law. The truth is that Doordash and other apps are taking 70% or more. Doordash and others can take a lower percentage and drivers would be paid more fairly. The drivers are providing their own cars, paying for gas, maintenance, repairs. So, they have most of the expenses.
Told ya in a previous report. This is why I go to the restaurant directly instead of ordering to avoid the $8 fee or the expensive doordash prices. The answer to why is right in your report,more specifically what you see and heard in the back on the street. Busses and trains in a city make travel to these restaurants cheaper than what they are getting paid for. Why pay $8 + delivery fees,gas and time when you can pay $2.50 on a bus or train and get it yourself?
Sounds like when a luxury tax is imposed on boats , RVs and such. Sales of these items drop off and the regular workers that make these items are fired due to lack of orders. . ..
This sounds like a company problem. They should have their workers contracted for an hour or half hour at a time. Waiting around outside of food places is STILL working. They would not be doing that during their time off. But instead, they found yet another loophole and are only calculating time delivering food. And when paying their workers full salary, they should REMOVE the tip option, but got greedy instead. This turns me off and makes me not order again when I see both or was cheated into tipping too. There is more than enough money to pay their workers fairly and not nickel-and-dime their customers to death. The lie that living wages are unaffordable for companies who’s CEO’s are multi-millionaires and bringing in record profits during “inflation” needs to not be perpetuated.
This is what happens when politicians who know nothing push laws that end up hurting people. Raise minimum wage -- get replaced by automation. Force delivery fees to exorbitant levels -- no one orders delivery.
“Sounds like a great idea. With the best of intentions. What could possibly go wrong?”Did the idiots that passed this truly not understand that there would be unintended consequences? But that’s pretty typical of government meddling, it usually makes things worse.
Drivers don’t wanna work for free. You say “go and get a real job” until you cry about spending your whole lunch break getting the food yourself with no time to eat it because all of the drivers got tired of y’all’s cheap a$$es and went and got “real jobs” and there’s no one delivering.
Speaking as a seasoned bike courier in Seattle that is being hurt by the law change, there's some nuance here that's missing. Uber and DoorDash imposing a local ordinance fee was totally their choice. To some degree they are killing demand by imposing such high fees to make examples of Seattle and NYC for the regulations. Without these fees demand would not have decreased as significantly as it has. Furthermore, DoorDash and UberEats particularly, are designing out the option to tip as a retaliatory measure. This is the real FU to drivers. We can all be upset at local government for having imposed what seems like misguided legislation, but at the end of the day it is these companies that are exploiting the laws to their benefit and throwing a hissy fit for government daring to reign them in a little bit. In the process they are squeezing customers, restaurants, and delivery people to make their point. It's easy to hate on the legislators, but let's dig a little deeper and direct the vitriol to where it really belongs. Also, it's early days, let's give the market a few months to adjust and we'll see just how bad of a change this really is. Ultimately, these companies need to expand their market share and increase their profits. Destroying demand with outrageous fees (on top of the ordinance requirements) will not be a sustainable move for them in the long term.
I can't even pay my bills now. I will probably have to have my car repossessed. Looking for another job because of this ordinance law. Wish they would somehow reverse this law. The sooner the better. I'm on disability and use the app to supplement my income. Very stressed. I need to Dash outside of the city ordinance to make any money. I have, but very little money. This is a disgrace to all of us now who are struggling.
The problem isn't 5 dollars more per order. The problem is ordering a 10 dollar sandwich and having to pay 50 dollars for it with tip and fees. Even if that was 45 dollars, you're still charging 35 dollars over the fair market value of the sandwich. The entire business model is not sustainable and certainly not in the middle of inflation and a fear-cession.
Could it also be a high delivery fee on top of being publicly shamed for tipping 25% by individuals who need a real day time job instead of food delivery. BTW, I'm not shaming delivery people, I'm shaming individuals who feel that the customer should tip greater than 50% to supplement their low wages all while destroying the person's order or using expletives against the customer.
What happens when the self-appointed anointed intelligentsia know better than the delivery people . None of the people who made this law probably worked as a delivery person
Literally everyone knew this was going to happen. Delivery food is for the rich now. All these policies meant to help working people end up hurting them but at least it makes those that put them in place feel good.
I am so glad I am far from Seattle and King County now. Moving to the sticks has been fantastic. Property, peace, none of the nonsense and no restrictions on firearms
I’m assuming you drive a lifted Ford F350 with a “Trump 2024” and “F#%k Biden” on the back of it and Toby Keith on full blast with a can of skoal. Yee yee 😂
Great! A few people's experiences are presented as representative of all workers, and the conclusion is that the new law is harmful. Very professional! What about interviewing more couriers to get different points of view? For example, I started earning 1.5 times more as a courier than before the law came into effect. Not to mention the reduction in stress, because before I had to decide in 20 seconds whether another $5 order is worth your time, while driving. Also, I don't understand why everyone is so upset about the $5 fee, because they might not tip to make up for it. After all, customers used to have to tip to get the order delivered anyway. The basic payment to a Dordash courier was $2, and I can't imagine any of the couriers taking $2 orders without a tip. Also, no one objects to paying $30 plus tip for a 5 mile taxi ride, but for the exact same job, the only difference being that it's not a body but a bag of food sitting on the seat, paying $5 seems like an unmanageable expense.
Look at it this way. Everything is expensive when you have to buy something, whether or not it took them alot of skill. The paying $30 for a taxi ride is a good example. You are risking your safety and using and wearing down your car, so you should also get a premium.
They arnt stressed about loss of one city. I wounder if they are as transparent with customers about grocery receipts and mark up. They keep to much of the take.
Always looks good on paper at face value to politicians, when in reality it actually hurts the workers. The politicians probably wanted less delivery traffic and this was a way to cover up that they were helping gig workers , but ithe workers in realty were screwed over . "Were from the Government and were here to help "
@ruturaj47 On May 31, 2022, City Council passed the App-Based Worker Minimum Payment Ordinance, SMC 8.37. This law is effective on January 13, 2024. The ordinance applies to certain app-based workers (sometimes referred to as gig workers) and provides for several rights and protections for covered workers. (Smc = Seattle Municipal Code )
@@user-ARK1547 so paying minimum wage is bad? The companies are most probably profiting from these fees too. Before these fees, my $38 grocery had accidentally left actual receipt of $22. These companies mark up prices, charges fees, then don't want to pay minimum wage to delivery employees, when forced to do so they are charging customers with more profits and you are supporting companies but not workers? Let me guess, you support different political party?
@@ruturaj47 laws of supply and demand the ordinance killed the demand hence those wage increases and protections dont matter much if there is no work orders due to increased costs to consumers . No demand means low to no wages and no protections of gig workers incomes .
@@user-ARK1547 again, you don't have any problems with company overcharging in shady way but you have problem with employees getting minimum wage? Especially when CEO would be making millions. 👏 You don't seem biased at all.
Yeah I really doubt it is the extra fee making people order less. More like they said less people using the delivery and more people doing deliveries...
Finally some one take a look to this problem I been delivering for for the since the pandemic, but never been so bad like now We get car, gas, and maintenance of the car for $8 bucks an hour
It’s backfiring because the greedy rich people added the $5 to the total. If the total was $20, now it’s $25. If the total was still $20, the plan would have worked beautifully.
1:39 yes the tips should go down as they ARE making more money... $26 an hour (while working) so i would tip less too. You raise wages the prices always go up
Can we get some decent reporting on what was going on before this ? Between the delivery and service fee you might see a total of $30 - and they were paying the drivers sometimes as little as $3 out of this. The driver which had to cover all vehicle expenses like gas and maintenance. All the reporting I'm seeing is pointing the finger at the city for this - why not ask any of the companies how they were taking 80% of the fees while not being involved in the cost of transporting the food? Or maybe discuss the fact they were paying the drivers well under minimum wage.
We used to order door dash 1-2 times a week. I deleted my account/app a few weeks ago. The mayor stating that gig workers are critical to Seattle’s economy is incorrect. Inflation, gas, rent, and crime are all up. He should focus on those issues.
Please, Seattle. Just remove the regulations ASAP. Imagine if a Choptle framchase with 30 employees suddenly allows anyone to work there anytime they wanted. So you have thousands of workers crammed inside the restaurant doing nothing and getting paid nothing.
Usage is going down I went from making $400 dollars working 16 hour a week making $200 once this January hit. I need 4 tires I can't afford. It's not doable anymore we are past the peak. Time to go back to a W2. It was good while it lasted.
AP - Seattle introduced a mandatory $5 fee on delivery apps to cover their driver’s living wage and sales were almost cut in half. Now the drivers can’t make rent. 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Too expensive. I don't even live in Seattle but in my area in WA it's still too pricey. I don't understand how paying them more for the hours they work is gonna help them if they aren't getting any work.... ass in eye 😅
The true cost of the food, plus the man hour costs, plus the energy costs if a vehicle is used, plus the tip is being reflected in the new total price. Two examples: airline travel is subsidized by taxpayers funding airports and port construction and maintenance costs, sports event ticket prices are lower because taxpayers fund the stadiums and maintenance costs. Both of these costs are artificially lower.
As someone from West Seattle, I apologize for my fellow West Seattleites that voted Lisa for council member of District 1. She can be idiotic sometimes, and really should not be championing anything that she has no expertise in.
In the end the customer will decide what they are willing to pay. The government can legislate a minimum pay for the workers, but if there is no business, this is all for moot. The road to hell is usually paved with good intentions.
Yep changed my habit too, I now order online or call then go and pickup! City Council members have never been Uber, delivery drivers so why in the hell are they changing crap? If a majority of drivers agree with an ordinance like this then blame them, just don’t implement feel good legislation because YOU think it seems right! Why can’t Democrats leave workers alone?
It could be like myself, looking for work. Job market is a jungle right now. Making judgements because you don’t understand or not in that position currently is wild. I have a Masters in Ed, been looking for work since September…
Same thing with minimum wage. The politicians just need your votes by giving a soundbite solution that actually either won’t solve the problem or make it worse.
What did they expect? Uber to dip into their coffers and pony up? Ignorance is rampant! And when I last checked Uber, the system did not allow for a tip. It was grayed out due to the tip being a part of the new fee being charged. Sorry chumps, the good times are over. Now you have to suffer like the rest of us. Little pay, increased rent, and expensive groceries!!!
Higher cost lowers demands. Not exactly earth shattering economic news. Not only are delivery workers going to get hurt but also restaurants.
@@RowdyLpx - Inflation post pandemic was driving off of the govement handing out trillions directly to the middle and lower class. If that isn't inflationary I don't know what is. That money have since been burned off and we are now entering a more normal economic environment.
@RowdyLpx - Priced out of the housing market? If housing prices are so high then who are one ones that keep buying homes and keeping the price up? There's a lot of wealth out there, and the ones that have it are still willing to spend it. Also, don't turn this into a generational thing. Anybody regardless of age can learn how to manage money and build if they're motivated. I would argue that due to technology young people today have far more opportunity to build wealth than their older counterparts.
@@RowdyLpx - Let get real. After the 2008 housing crisis anybody could have bought a home dirt cheap but nobody wanted to because who would want to own a depreciating asset? These 'evil' corporations actually saved the housing market which was in free-fall by buying them up at a tremendous risk. Now the shoes on the other foot, home prices are appreciating and we conveniently ignore the fact that people are simply being compensated for taking the risk. Classic example of 'if it was so easy, everyone would do it'.
@@RowdyLpxthis is true but it’s not the bigger problem. The federal reserve doubled the money supply recently. When this happened everything went up. They never should have done this.
@@RowdyLpx AP- Seattle introduced a mandatory $5 fee on delivery apps to cover their driver’s living wage and sales were almost cut in half. Now the drivers can’t make rent.
It's too late for this now, and people are changing their spending habits too. We are past peak delivery-app era. These companies made their money and it's all just down hill for everyone who participates in this. I haven't used these delivery apps in Seattle since 2018, so I can only imagine how expensive it is nowadays with all the added fees, and no one wants to pay $30 for a $15 order and that's not even including the tip. Absolutely insane.
Exactly. The added cost to pay the tech companies behind the apps and the contractors is absurd.
Tips are going down, because everyone is tired of tipping... the delivery market is saturated... when everyone and their mom is a delivery driver side hustle, when it used to be restaurant and catering business dependent... Not everyone is rich enough to afford regular delivered food as it is with the cost of food also going up. Maybe its time we go out and touch grass, and socialize again... Maybe this super convenience economy is destroying us.
I never needed delivered food and I don't see that changing.
Nobody saw this coming?
What, that these delivery services would” throw a tantrum by having to behave fairly?
It might have been intentional to reduce the delivery vehicle traffic.
Surprised Pikachu face
Ahh, the gift of the departed city council members keeps giving. Seattle voters have only themselves to blame for this predictable outcome.
So you want drivers to work for free? Stop being cheapskates
@@lordhoweproductions3733 where does it say in my statement that they should work for free? You need to work on your reading comprehension, dude.
@@alooga555 I can read just fine, dude 👍 What do you think delivery drivers should get paid? The minimum payout is $2.25 per delivery, go ahead, tell us. In my opinion getting paid any less would be doing it for free. $5 is pretty reasonable and if someone doesn’t like it they can go get the food themselves. Didn’t mean to make you so butthurt, my bad, dude 🤣
@@lordhoweproductions3733 no one’s forcing these people to deliver food, you know. Things worked just fine until the idiotic Seattle city Council members weighed in.
Is everyone just ignoring the dude rolling the motorcycle out of the restaurant?
"I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
The nine worst words according to Ronald Reagan.
And Bill Clinton reinforced that view: “The era of Big Government is over.”
@@RowdyLpx you are dumb.
People started treating it as a full time job, it was meant to be a side gig but now it’s double the price to order something? Plus tip? I’ll just go myself 😂
Exactly...
Even side gigs should be paid fairly. If you work, you should be paid fairly.
@@vshah1010 So in the quest to be paid fairly, the person who was on the video made 931 this week last year made 464 this week , this year. Half as much sounds really fair. What happens when you try to "help" people without regard to basic economics. Maybe try to help people by cutting some government taxes and spending? Oh, sorry what was I thinking.
the government would have "fixed" it even if all drivers without exception only treated it as it was supposed to be. part time
@@abbieandus It's just DoorDash playing games such as cutting trips in Seattle to retaliate.
They are also fooling customers by putting a charge and a message saying that the extra cost is because of the new law. The truth is that Doordash and other apps are taking 70% or more. Doordash and others can take a lower percentage and drivers would be paid more fairly. The drivers are providing their own cars, paying for gas, maintenance, repairs. So, they have most of the expenses.
Told ya in a previous report. This is why I go to the restaurant directly instead of ordering to avoid the $8 fee or the expensive doordash prices. The answer to why is right in your report,more specifically what you see and heard in the back on the street. Busses and trains in a city make travel to these restaurants cheaper than what they are getting paid for.
Why pay $8 + delivery fees,gas and time when you can pay $2.50 on a bus or train and get it yourself?
yeah you better take that below minimum wage job or else you get nothing.
who do drivers think they are for trying to feed their families i gotta feed my fat ass for $5
because going to a bus stop, waiting walking to and fro to a venue then returning is a small burden.
Sounds like when a luxury tax is imposed on boats , RVs and such. Sales of these items drop off and the regular workers that make these items are fired due to lack of orders. . ..
Well said
If only more people knew who Thomas Sowell was.
This sounds like a company problem. They should have their workers contracted for an hour or half hour at a time. Waiting around outside of food places is STILL working. They would not be doing that during their time off. But instead, they found yet another loophole and are only calculating time delivering food.
And when paying their workers full salary, they should REMOVE the tip option, but got greedy instead. This turns me off and makes me not order again when I see both or was cheated into tipping too.
There is more than enough money to pay their workers fairly and not nickel-and-dime their customers to death. The lie that living wages are unaffordable for companies who’s CEO’s are multi-millionaires and bringing in record profits during “inflation” needs to not be perpetuated.
This is what happens when politicians who know nothing push laws that end up hurting people. Raise minimum wage -- get replaced by automation. Force delivery fees to exorbitant levels -- no one orders delivery.
“Sounds like a great idea. With the best of intentions. What could possibly go wrong?”Did the idiots that passed this truly not understand that there would be unintended consequences? But that’s pretty typical of government meddling, it usually makes things worse.
The woman complaining that she only made $8/hr is free to get a real job. There’s no way I’m paying an extra $5 on top of the exorbitant fees.
Drivers don’t wanna work for free. You say “go and get a real job” until you cry about spending your whole lunch break getting the food yourself with no time to eat it because all of the drivers got tired of y’all’s cheap a$$es and went and got “real jobs” and there’s no one delivering.
Speaking as a seasoned bike courier in Seattle that is being hurt by the law change, there's some nuance here that's missing. Uber and DoorDash imposing a local ordinance fee was totally their choice. To some degree they are killing demand by imposing such high fees to make examples of Seattle and NYC for the regulations. Without these fees demand would not have decreased as significantly as it has. Furthermore, DoorDash and UberEats particularly, are designing out the option to tip as a retaliatory measure. This is the real FU to drivers. We can all be upset at local government for having imposed what seems like misguided legislation, but at the end of the day it is these companies that are exploiting the laws to their benefit and throwing a hissy fit for government daring to reign them in a little bit. In the process they are squeezing customers, restaurants, and delivery people to make their point. It's easy to hate on the legislators, but let's dig a little deeper and direct the vitriol to where it really belongs. Also, it's early days, let's give the market a few months to adjust and we'll see just how bad of a change this really is. Ultimately, these companies need to expand their market share and increase their profits. Destroying demand with outrageous fees (on top of the ordinance requirements) will not be a sustainable move for them in the long term.
Sorry this is happening to you! I absolutely believe it. For example Amazon is not imposing a fee and they use a similar structure for deliveries.
Also Gig workers seem to forget that January - February are the slowest time of year as well.
the democrat regulators are 100% to blame for extorting perfectly inelastic necessities like food & gasoline. There’s no accidents here.
@@jesusshuttleworth-pm8gsOkay boomer
I stopped being lazy, buy groceries, make your own food, its healthier and cheaper.
Is to be expected. Also restaurants never liked working with these delivery companies. They were forced to be part of the market.
I can't even pay my bills now. I will probably have to have my car repossessed. Looking for another job because of this ordinance law. Wish they would somehow reverse this law. The sooner the better. I'm on disability and use the app to supplement my income. Very stressed. I need to Dash outside of the city ordinance to make any money. I have, but very little money. This is a disgrace to all of us now who are struggling.
I am shocked. SHOCKED! Well not that shocked...
So we’re all just going to ignore a motorcycle being driven out of a restaurant huh 😂😂😂
What amazes me is people are acting surprised at the results of this
Common sense truly is not common
So now there an ordinance for app delivery (Road Pirating) Governments greed is extending further and further into Free enterprise.
I'm from the government and here to help😂😂😂😂. Mess with the free market and you will lose everytime. Elections have consequences 😮.
Womp womp...get a real job. 40-50 yo healthy adults tryna make a living by delivering food 🤡
The problem isn't 5 dollars more per order. The problem is ordering a 10 dollar sandwich and having to pay 50 dollars for it with tip and fees. Even if that was 45 dollars, you're still charging 35 dollars over the fair market value of the sandwich. The entire business model is not sustainable and certainly not in the middle of inflation and a fear-cession.
Everyone I know has deleted DoorDash now
How many hours did the one guy have to work to earn $921 a week.
Could it also be a high delivery fee on top of being publicly shamed for tipping 25% by individuals who need a real day time job instead of food delivery. BTW, I'm not shaming delivery people, I'm shaming individuals who feel that the customer should tip greater than 50% to supplement their low wages all while destroying the person's order or using expletives against the customer.
If someone could have just seen this coming....
Dominos did this also..they tacked on a $6 delivery fee and expected to give a tip haven’t ordered a pizza since…
First and foremost how the F was this law a priority for this crime and decaying city.
What happens when the self-appointed anointed intelligentsia know better than the delivery people . None of the people who made this law probably worked as a delivery person
I would imagine that it helps to have consultants who understand the gig economy when drafting up policies. Clearly, that didn't happen here.
The apps are holding orders
Literally everyone knew this was going to happen. Delivery food is for the rich now. All these policies meant to help working people end up hurting them but at least it makes those that put them in place feel good.
I am so glad I am far from Seattle and King County now. Moving to the sticks has been fantastic. Property, peace, none of the nonsense and no restrictions on firearms
how are the delivery apps out there? 😂
I lived in Seattle for 10 years, I'm now in the Midwest. The only positive outcome was the sale of our house last year. 200 percent sale.
WA firearm restrictions got insane last year:/
I’m assuming you drive a lifted Ford F350 with a “Trump 2024” and “F#%k Biden” on the back of it and Toby Keith on full blast with a can of skoal. Yee yee 😂
These are gig jobs meant to supplement other part time or full time jobs. Never intended to be a full time job.
It doesn't take much brain cells to figure this out.
Great! A few people's experiences are presented as representative of all workers, and the conclusion is that the new law is harmful. Very professional! What about interviewing more couriers to get different points of view? For example, I started earning 1.5 times more as a courier than before the law came into effect. Not to mention the reduction in stress, because before I had to decide in 20 seconds whether another $5 order is worth your time, while driving.
Also, I don't understand why everyone is so upset about the $5 fee, because they might not tip to make up for it. After all, customers used to have to tip to get the order delivered anyway. The basic payment to a Dordash courier was $2, and I can't imagine any of the couriers taking $2 orders without a tip. Also, no one objects to paying $30 plus tip for a 5 mile taxi ride, but for the exact same job, the only difference being that it's not a body but a bag of food sitting on the seat, paying $5 seems like an unmanageable expense.
Look at it this way. Everything is expensive when you have to buy something, whether or not it took them alot of skill. The paying $30 for a taxi ride is a good example.
You are risking your safety and using and wearing down your car, so you should also get a premium.
I believe they overshot their expectations on their ordinance. Humans are altruistic. However we don't like seeing the system gamed at us.
They arnt stressed about loss of one city.
I wounder if they are as transparent with customers about grocery receipts and mark up.
They keep to much of the take.
The same happened with their increase to cashier, stores switch to layoffs cashiers, and do self checkout machines.
It ruined my living , I sit in the car and wait forever to get a single order , my income dropped by at least 65%
Reminds me of AB5 in california. Politicians keeo raising costs for businesses and then blame them when cuts are made or prices are raised.
Always looks good on paper at face value to politicians, when in reality it actually hurts the workers. The politicians probably wanted less delivery traffic and this was a way to cover up that they were helping gig workers , but ithe workers in realty were screwed over . "Were from the Government and were here to help "
Do you know what regulation caused this?
@ruturaj47 On May 31, 2022, City Council passed the App-Based Worker Minimum Payment Ordinance, SMC 8.37. This law is effective on January 13, 2024. The ordinance applies to certain app-based workers (sometimes referred to as gig workers) and provides for several rights and protections for covered workers. (Smc = Seattle Municipal Code )
@@user-ARK1547 so paying minimum wage is bad? The companies are most probably profiting from these fees too. Before these fees, my $38 grocery had accidentally left actual receipt of $22. These companies mark up prices, charges fees, then don't want to pay minimum wage to delivery employees, when forced to do so they are charging customers with more profits and you are supporting companies but not workers? Let me guess, you support different political party?
@@ruturaj47 laws of supply and demand the ordinance killed the demand hence those wage increases and protections dont matter much if there is no work orders due to increased costs to consumers . No demand means low to no wages and no protections of gig workers incomes .
@@user-ARK1547 again, you don't have any problems with company overcharging in shady way but you have problem with employees getting minimum wage? Especially when CEO would be making millions. 👏 You don't seem biased at all.
Government to the recuue again 😅😅😅😅
I've never used a delivery app and I doubt I ever will.
What did they expect? The cost of paying a delivery drive $26+/hour needs to be covered somewhere.
food delivery, fast food, are meant to be part time or second jobs. they were never meant to be able to receive a living wage…
Yeah I really doubt it is the extra fee making people order less. More like they said less people using the delivery and more people doing deliveries...
Finally some one take a look to this problem
I been delivering for for the since the pandemic, but never been so bad like now
We get car, gas, and maintenance of the car for $8 bucks an hour
It’s backfiring because the greedy rich people added the $5 to the total. If the total was $20, now it’s $25. If the total was still $20, the plan would have worked beautifully.
The rideshare companies play some games on the customer with the fee and letting them know that it's because of the new law.
1:39 yes the tips should go down as they ARE making more money... $26 an hour (while working) so i would tip less too. You raise wages the prices always go up
Can we get some decent reporting on what was going on before this ?
Between the delivery and service fee you might see a total of $30 - and they were paying the drivers sometimes as little as $3 out of this. The driver which had to cover all vehicle expenses like gas and maintenance. All the reporting I'm seeing is pointing the finger at the city for this - why not ask any of the companies how they were taking 80% of the fees while not being involved in the cost of transporting the food? Or maybe discuss the fact they were paying the drivers well under minimum wage.
I don't tip any more either. The fees are too high and I can't afford to tip.
We used to order door dash 1-2 times a week. I deleted my account/app a few weeks ago.
The mayor stating that gig workers are critical to Seattle’s economy is incorrect. Inflation, gas, rent, and crime are all up. He should focus on those issues.
Please, Seattle. Just remove the regulations ASAP.
Imagine if a Choptle framchase with 30 employees suddenly allows anyone to work there anytime they wanted. So you have thousands of workers crammed inside the restaurant doing nothing and getting paid nothing.
Usage is going down I went from making $400 dollars working 16 hour a week making $200 once this January hit. I need 4 tires I can't afford. It's not doable anymore we are past the peak. Time to go back to a W2. It was good while it lasted.
We as gig workers have to push for better background checks, drug tests, that will make us more money
Who would have guessed more govt intervention would backfire.
Seattle is hell on earth.
Why are the fees imposed outside Seattle? It wasn't voted on elsewhere.
Uber eats delivery prices the same amount as the order price so you have to pay twice the amount
AP - Seattle introduced a mandatory $5 fee on delivery apps to cover their driver’s living wage and sales were almost cut in half. Now the drivers can’t make rent.
😂🤣😂🤣😂
Democrat policies. Wait for Rent Control and see how that one works. What sounds great on paper does not always work in the real world
Now let’s mandate rent controls. See how that turns out.
imagine government trying to regulate private industry and things going terribly wrong!!
Too expensive. I don't even live in Seattle but in my area in WA it's still too pricey. I don't understand how paying them more for the hours they work is gonna help them if they aren't getting any work.... ass in eye 😅
Plus you forgot to deduct taxes from that 900 and 400 which cuts those wages in half and it's slavery
I believe Adam Smith called this the invisible hand in a free market economy.
Didn’t even realize this was the reason food delivery got so expensive.
The true cost of the food, plus the man hour costs, plus the energy costs if a vehicle is used, plus the tip is being reflected in the new total price. Two examples: airline travel is subsidized by taxpayers funding airports and port construction and maintenance costs, sports event ticket prices are lower because taxpayers fund the stadiums and maintenance costs. Both of these costs are artificially lower.
As someone from West Seattle, I apologize for my fellow West Seattleites that voted Lisa for council member of District 1. She can be idiotic sometimes, and really should not be championing anything that she has no expertise in.
15$ delivery fee for a 20 dollar meal wow such a smart idea
They got exactly what they voted for. Cry me a river.
If nothing else, it's making it truly part time. because not enough customers are going to order
An extra $5 isnt gonna stop me from ordering.
Council members seem to make some dumb decisions. Let's pick some smarter people next time.
Leave it to the government to mess a good thing up.
You will take your below minimum wage job or you get nothing!
Politicians with no experience in business making high-level business decisions. What could go wrong?
I'm so glad it backfired
In the end the customer will decide what they are willing to pay. The government can legislate a minimum pay for the workers, but if there is no business, this is all for moot. The road to hell is usually paved with good intentions.
Get a real job. It’s not meant to be a career
This is great, so they can get a real job being a farm worker!!!
That’s what you got when politician interfere the market
Yep changed my habit too, I now order online or call then go and pickup! City Council members have never been Uber, delivery drivers so why in the hell are they changing crap? If a majority of drivers agree with an ordinance like this then blame them, just don’t implement feel good legislation because YOU think it seems right! Why can’t Democrats leave workers alone?
Less orders come in because of the ridiculous delivery charges??? No SHT Sherlock. 🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
Well when that make more money than minimum wage plus tips is insane then there is dash pass so I can avoid the delivery fee.
They marketed the term “side hustle.” You know, side money on your “spare time.” Are these peeps trying to turn this gig into a career?
It could be like myself, looking for work. Job market is a jungle right now. Making judgements because you don’t understand or not in that position currently is wild. I have a Masters in Ed, been looking for work since September…
Same thing with minimum wage. The politicians just need your votes by giving a soundbite solution that actually either won’t solve the problem or make it worse.
Make something expensive, and people will use less of it.😮
The lady’s not going to sit there hours for a single order.
If she had anything better to do she’d do it. Guess not.
Your arent killing your car waiting
So, should you take their basic labor rights away and go back to paying them $2 per job?
What did they expect? Uber to dip into their coffers and pony up? Ignorance is rampant!
And when I last checked Uber, the system did not allow for a tip. It was grayed out due to the tip being a part of the new fee being charged. Sorry chumps, the good times are over. Now you have to suffer like the rest of us. Little pay, increased rent, and expensive groceries!!!
I have an idea. Maybe the government can force people to pay.. oh wait that won’t work lol. Maybe if government doesn’t get involved.
Closed my Uber Eats account.