Van Der Graaf Generator - Darkness (11/11) (1970)
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- Van der Graaf Generator are an English progressive rock band, formed in 1967 in Manchester by singer-songwriters Peter Hammill and Chris Judge Smith and the first act signed by Charisma Records. They did not experience much commercial success in the UK, but became popular in Italy during the 1970s. In 2005 the band reformed, and are still musically active with a line-up of Hammill, organist Hugh Banton and drummer Guy Evans.
The band formed at the University of Manchester, but settled in London where they signed with Charisma. They went through several incarnations in their early years, including a brief split in 1969. When they reformed, they found minor commercial success with The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other (released in early 1970 and their only album to chart in the UK), and after the follow-up album, H to He, Who Am the Only One (December 1970), stabilised around a line-up of Hammill, Banton, Evans and saxophonist David Jackson. The quartet subsequently achieved significant success in Italy with the release of Pawn Hearts in 1971. After several exhausting tours of Italy, the band split in 1972. They reformed in 1975, releasing Godbluff and frequently touring Italy again, before a major line-up change and a slight rename to Van der Graaf. The band split in 1978. After many years apart, the band finally reunited at a gig at the Royal Festival Hall and a short tour in 2005. Since then, the band has continued as a trio of Hammill, Banton, and Evans, who record and tour regularly in between Hammill's concurrent solo career.
I was looking for the Van der Graaf generator for my physics exam, and I found a great band :)
Now, that's a find!🙃
Now you've got full marks for the exam 👍
Take some acid or mushrooms and get into Nicola Tesla
Haha great way to meet them!
Different than, and similar to Mr. Van Der Graf’s invention.
One of the greatest prog rock bands to never make the big time - whats truly amazing is that as I listened to this just now the lyrics flooded back to me from the 1970s, they were embedded in my subconscious all this time. Peter Hamill is extraordinary.
Pawen Hearts,the very best ever hears in my life
same.
The Best....then the rest. ✌️❤️🙂
Like you sing along each line and wonder why?
I used to hang with them......
..nice guys.......Peter great.
Van der Graaf Generator: The greatest progressive rock band ever ( along with King Crimson).
Peter Hammill: One of the greatest singers, lyricists, songwriters ever, in any genre of rock music.
That
Sounding so unlike any other band of the time probably because of the twin sax, no guitar and Peter's remarkable voice
Peter Hammill actually played guitar, studio and live, beside keyboards. I admit the guitar plays no relevant role in VDGG, such is the proficiency of the other three musicians, fantastic in their own way.
And they had Robert Fripp sometimes
I haven't seen the twin sax thing since seeing a repeat of the 1978 clip of Ian Dury's Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick on Top Of The Pops (and wasn't sure if that was just a gimmick!) Very impressive.
@@IThinkYouLookLarvely Could well have been a gimmick with that bunch of brilliant loons! Very impressive indeed as you say.
@@IThinkYouLookLarvely You should also see Dick Heckstall-Smith playing two in his Colliseum days
I am 62 years old, I listened to them when I was twenty, it is as if they were under my skin, I also listened to the voice, which moved me, of Hammill in the Still Life album, there is a difference between these voices that has something of philosophical.
Люблю эту группу! Привет из Сибири!
Sono si stati sottovalutati xke c erano i PINK FLOYD. Ma x me certi dischi dei Pink Floyd erano noiosi . I VAN DER GRAAF GENERATION SUONAVANO E CANTAVA DA DIO
@@danielabattistutta7344 Genesis были популярными в Италии в 1972 году после "Foxtrot" среди рабочих.
Amazing video and song Van Der Graaf Generator forever legend 70s England.🎤🎸🎹🥁🔊🎶✌️👌👏🤘👍🍀👌🤗💯😁🇬🇧❤️🔥
Roberto, my dear Brother, this was your favourite music...hope you can still listen to it from above...
If he has a way...he is
Hammill's voice is a blessing for humanity
He is the greatest! A huge inspiration in my own singing ♡
Absolutly true!
Its almost as good as mine !
@@robharding4028 I want to hear you sing
@@asolarasolarasolar I would love to oblige, but my voice has suffered a collapse ! But appreciate the offer !!
The most criminally underrated band ever
I always hate it when people write over underrated bands, but here it´s true.
Unique, powerful, creative, poetic, intense, inspiring.
@@nightrock4u the only time when it's really applicable
This and the Quartermass album from the same period.
I normally hate the obligatory UA-cam underrated comment on virtually every posted piece of music, even by world renowned musicians, but on this occasion I think the comment is pretty fair.
I am 65 years old and saw them live in Manchester in I believe 1975, possibly at the university. I can't remember so much but for a 17-year-old an amazing experience. Love and peace to all of you!!!
Seeing them live in that period was great. I hope they played this song!
That's where they met as students, and PH suggested they form a band, appropriately.
Nel'75 li aspettavamo al Parco Ruffini, c'era un sacco di gente ma purtroppo non sono venuti...ci eravamo abituati bene,con Gabriel & C. che l'anno prima ci avevano portato The lamb
@@BarabbaYes Yeah, maybe yes, maybe no. Do you have an ANglish version please please?
I wish I was a bit older in the 70s, missed out on a bunch of great shows.
This band sounds like nothing on earth before or since. But then again - all the great bands from that era, late 60's/early 70's, had their own distinctive sound. What great days these were. All a long time ago now - but as fresh and powerful today as it was then
and my friend that is exactly what is missing from today's music. back then to play in a band u had to be a musician now you can just download samples and use auto-tone to be on the top of the charts. sad times.
@@adam-qu6dh Van der Graaf Generator are one of the Masters of progressive rock music but they are so much more as well!
Hammill's depressive,pessimistic and philosophical lyrics with his special voice,piano and guitar play,Guy's precious drums,Hugh complex and complicated organ and Dave...he is Van Gogh of sax.
And today just a few people know of them.
A nagy szellem,a druidák magasztos szellemisége tört át a '70'es években ezekben a zseniális bandákban még egyszer utoljára,az idők végén és az ítélet küszöbén!
Identidy my friend
I noticed the difference gap from other bands is quite wide.Most of them have their own distinctive sounds.Very creative.
@Baron Von Schneider I recommend you to listen to the evolution of the discography and the same evolution and style of Hammill's voice. There are bands that in a certain way sometimes have a resemblance with others, but in the particular case of VDGG, I had never heard something like this, it is very little digestible at the beginning and uncomfortable, but the more you dive in and get familiar with the style of the band, (at least I understand it that way) you can realize that we are in front of a group. Bowie is a good artist, it would be unnecessary to go into comparisons...
Here's the lyrics:
Day dawns dark, it now numbers infinity
Life crawls from the past, watching in wonder
I trace its patterns in me
Tomorrow's tomorrow is birth again
Boats burn the bridge in the fens;
The time of the past returns to my life
And uses it
Don't blame me for the letters that may form in the sand;
Don't look in my eyes, you may see all the numbers
That stretch in my sky and colour my hand
Don't say that I'm wrong in imagining
That the voice of my life cannot sing
Fate enters and talks in old words:
They amuse it
Hands shine darkly and white;
Only in dark do they appear
Bless the baby born today
Flying in pitch, flying on fear
(Wicked little Scorpio, doomed to die a thousand times before he lives.)
They shine in my eyes and touch my face
Where I have seen them placed before;
Don't blame me, please, for the fate that falls:
I did not choose it
I did not, no, no, I did not
I truly did not choose it.
Thank you. Greetings from Madrid 🇪🇸
Thank you kind stranger
One of the great discoveries in music I made as a young teen.50 years later still playing their albums
VdGG is one of my favorites of all time and deserve so much more love than they received. Some have said Peter Hammill is the "Jimi Hendrix of voice" and that's quite apt. The whole band is super talented and made spectacular music that'll last the test of time.
@Against Liars Absolutely! Amazing lyrics!!!
B Shannon ‘Jimi Hendrix of Voice’, never heard that. And don’t care much for it. Hammill’s vocals (not just his voice) are unique as were Jimi’s antics. And they (VDGG) have been producing music again in recent years and they still put on a hell of a show. Hammill never stopped. If you have not heard this go check Isildur’s Bane with Peter Hammill In Amazonia’s collaboration from 2019. Simply overwhelmingly good!
@@danielg335 Well I've been a fan of Isildur's Bane for 20+ years.
@@danielg335 It was Hammill himself who said that he was trying to do for the voice what Hendrix did for guitar. That was back in 1969.
@@danielg335 It was Robert Fripp who made that comment when he brought Hammill over to replace Daryl Hall for most of Exposure.
This band is so unique and so fantastic, with many of their songs finding the direct way to my soul. I saw Peter Hamill a few years ago live in Switzerland. Still a great musician. I was born 15 years too late, definetly. If I isten to today music on most radio stations, I better do no comment what I feel about that. Therefore, going back to the past and enjoy......
Many years ago there was a double album bootleg on vinyl by VDGG 'I Prophesy Disaster' recorded live at Cinema Mascotte, Basel 06/05/1972
Thank you Germany for filming this seminal band. I don't think Britain ever did!
VDGG is in rare air, no one else has ever sounded remotely like them.
AMEN to that fact. We are so very special that we listen to this brilliant music. Music as pure perfection.
Peter Hamill's voice certainly adds to this special sound!
Actually, from their sound, I imagine this might have been part of an early Bowie play list.......
@Adelaine Delabin Bowie sounds like Hammill
Quàck quàck quàck! You could say that about the bay city rollers.
One of the most powerful voices of all time!
When I heard Black Star by Bowie. This song came to mind. VDGG were way ahead of their time. Hugh Banton was a force of music. David Jackson is such an important part of their sound.
I was thinking of Black Star as well! So it's not just me :-)
I believe Bowie said that he learned some of his singing style from Hammill
@@davidharbud4919 That wouldn’t surprise me. Bowie was a real magpie.
YOU GUYS HAVE A GOLD MINE
We love Beat-Club we love Rock'and'Roll
Looove since I was 15 now 56.💖
This channel just keeps on kicking ass.
The dude is playing 2 saxophones
A trick taught to him by Rahsaan Roland Kirk
That's impressive, I can't manage to play one !
I know someone who can do that , but not with Saxophones.
One of the rare footages of VDGG with a bass guitarist (Nic Potter)
... which I was lucky enough to watch live in Lisbon on the Enter K tour in the early 80's! So lucky, since Enter K is my favourite PH album, maybe alongside with Over.
@@joseandrade632 indeed, Peter Hammil's creativity seems infinite, and his experimentation of different incarnations for his solo set up never fails to amaze us.
Did they not usually have a bass player?
@@pirhala No, after Nic Potter left Hugh Banton played the bass lines on the organ.
@@petermuirable thank you for the info!
Tremenda banda..idolos en mi juventud...tengo 63 años Gracias
Beat-Club,,saludos desde Argentina..
One of those bands that took a while for me to understand, but once i got the appeal of their music i became completely obsessed
With everything that the Beat-Club has been uploading recently, this is one of the performances I was looking forward to the most.
VdGG is easily one of my favorite bands of all time, and man, what power they wielded back in the day!
Ok here me out. Ive literally been open minded my whole 38 years of life and love music and I literally just 2 minutes ago found this. WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN MY WHOLE LIFE. This is amazing Im in love.
Reserch all there old one and Petter singles pm me for more if u like
@@barakcohen3612 thank you
Please please check out “Quiet Zone / Pleasure Dome” - Van Der Graaf at their peak, imho. It’s an album that I simply don’t tire of. It constantly surprises me, even now more than 40 years after first hearing it.
man, i feel so sorry for your time hidded from VdGG...anyway, much better now than never..hehe
You’ve got a lot of listening to do buddy!
I’m thinking back now to 1991 and looking at all the VDGG/PH CDs in Tower and having to decide which one I’d get next. I could probably afford one every few weeks at best. Took a couple years.
Guy Evans was superb. Tasteful, musical and highly proficient
I only wish there were more drummers like Guy! He's absolutely amazing!
As was every member in this amazing band. They are that rare ,virtually unique thing in the world of music.
Is not was. They're still going strong.
@@michaelbell5984 😉😘😘😘😘
the vocalists mickey T tho
Saw them at Friars, Aylesbury probably in July 10th 1971, supported by Gilbert Hampshire Armpit Review. Seems like another world.
A band that were around in my listening era while I was into other stuff. Hadn't realised how good a vocalist Peter Hammill was.
The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other has been my favourite VDGG album ever since 1970. The title is from that album. I never knew that a video of it existed. Great find.
It's been available officially for years with Whatever Would Robert Have Said on DVD, along with Godbluff live.
How can you maintain one favorite album for like 50 years????
@@bremtremont2027 I said it is my favourite album from that band - they split in the mid 70s, so that was a closed discography of 8 studio albums by then. They reunited in 2005 and have released some new albums meanwhile, which are respectable but not reaching their earlier heights.
@@bremtremont2027 Very, Very easily!! Pawn Hearts has been my favourite album since my 3rd listen almost 50 years ago. I have heard and love thousands of others, but this has never been equalled...
@@lemming9984 ''It's been available officially for years with Whatever Would Robert Have Said on DVD, along with Godbluff live.''
Yeah, Robert said it wasn't available, but it is... 🤣🤣🤣
David Jackson is a beast! He added so much dimension to their music...Godbluff is one of my favorite albums by any group.
Most likely a coincidence, but it looks as though Joey Ramone got all his moves from Peter Hammill. I didn't expect that, lol.
When you dig into live performances of the early prog guys, it's interesting how much of their "act" re-appeared in punk, postpunk and goth. John Lydon also cited Hammil as an influence.
Peter Hammill invented punk rock. Go listen to the very end of the track "Nadir's Big Chance". That's the birth of punk right there.
@@allen-rp3gm Brilliant statement.
Great track! David Jackson played sax on one of my old bands' demo tapes and I played bass on one of his solo demo tapes 😎
I always make a point to blast this on November 11, Remembrance Day.
This was the first song I heard by VDGG and I was absolutely blown away.
I was curious about the sound of the sax however. Having played the saxophone long ago I could'nt really figure out how the saxplayer made it sound the way it did. When I later checked it out I was once again blown away. 🤩🤩
I would never have been able to figure that one (or in this case two) out. Absolutely marvellous.
I came back to this today, it is such, such a good performance. Band firing on all cylinders, Nic Potter underpinning everything with this pulsing bass line, almost wish he'd never left the band.
Long life to Beat Club, i Love this trip 60, 70 &80 Rock and Roll. 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
It should be particularly emphasized here that the bands at the Beat-Club (Radio Bremen-TV Bremen/Germany) all played live! No overdubs or similar crap!
New guy Jaxon: "I'm here and this is what to expect."
Prog: "Fuck, yes!"
The other four aren't too shabby either. ;)
Long long time ago in the early 70s when I was 19yo a young and nice girlfriend gave me as a B'day gift the VDGG LP "Aerosol Grey Machine", ... but I appreciated that music only after she left me, for idiot, for flirting with her best friend, I was sad and to remind me of her I started to listen that LP on my turntable ... and I still listen that music today as I keep it on my cell phone and still listen with pleasure. My family and friends are teasing me for that 😂 They said that this music is rare 🤪... which is true, for that I like it and is a way to push them away when I want to stay alone 🦶👉
One music writer once said,,"There are just three top rock band no woman could like..VGG, the german band Can, and Frank Zappa..With or without Mothers of Invention..
So true.
and from Sweden Änglagård
Instead i like them and im a woman
Know many women who like Zappa. VGG? not one.
Me. Im a woman and i listen to VDGG
Fuck me, Van Der Graaf Generator live :-D Fantastic seeing and hearing this. Pawn Hearts is my favourite prog rock album
August for me beautiful days festival devon. With hawkwind
@Beat-Club
. . . yes, yes, yes - keep those "beat-club" outtakes coming - but hopefully you can do something about the picture quality!
@Against Liars
i'll explain it to you, sir. all these clips from "beat-club" are in exceptionally GREAT quality for their age, and usually the videos on this channel are presented in high resolution (720p). sadly all the recent uploads have a minor resolution of only 480p. so, although it would be an easy thing to present this great footage in appropriate picture quality, these guys don't do that - the more the pity, don't you think so, too?! (or is your eyesight so bad, that you don't see a difference?)
Just be grateful this clip doesn't contain on-screen video effects that totally obscure the players, like most of the other clips do.
The video quality is really irrelevant when you hear the sound quality.
@@PactWithLucifer CLOWN
You can tell bowie,,. loved this
I think early
Bowie lifted a lot of from theses guys...
The greatest prog band of all time
well said man..
y'know i've done just about every drug under the sun including solvent abuse .., and i've wondered in the dead zone agog .... but where some of the lyrics from VDGG still baffle me and leave me cold wondering where the fuck did he gleam this information ..... ancient and modern day philosophers have tried for over 7000 years to explain it all lacking conclusion and proof VDGG nail it every album, well them & Floyd obviously ..... oh and Syd.
Me thinks so too x
fluff freeman used to give a bit of air time back in the day
Even if most opinions are subjective, this one is objectively false
@@barackobama9552 huh, explain, as if you were telling a child...
.....and no guitar! Fantastic band. Love the footage.
That's probably the most camera time a bass player has ever had :D
Somebody once said that VDGG were like "a cross between Shakespeare and Uriah Heep". That's funny, but very broadly true. This isn't 'English whimsy' prog like Genesis; it's the darker, heavier stuff for those who like some drama and atmosphere with their multi-movement suites...
Una delle band più innovative di quegli anni d'oro
Unique band. Pawn Hearts is on my greatest albums list.
Fantastico: Van der Graaf Generator! (citazione da Raffaele Cascone, Per voi giovani, Rai)
....just bought two tickets for the "50 years of VdGG-Tour" Yes! :) May, 11th Reutlingen, Germany
Excellent. What else I can say?
This is excellent. Great live video.
Amazing clip! They were a very unusual band from way back when music was original and unique. Well done, Beat Club!
Great, great music. I loved the two albums I bought, especially H to He, with which I have travelled across space and time. Sadly, never had the chance to see them live.
Awesome music, very powerful performance, pinnacle of perfection.
He is distinctly unique, lucky to have seen him in recent years both solo,and the band,well worth the ticket price.Over 50 years of musical and lyrical contributions.
Singer sounds like he could've influenced David Bowie.
Peter inspired bowie
I think so too
Very great Band, love the old tracks 👍👏👏👏
Dang my man plays 2 saxes at sime time
Along with Soft Machine, best bands ever
Pour moi le meilleur de tous les groupes et à jamais. Aucun groupe que je connais depuis plus de cinquante ans n'a été aussi créatif et inventif comme celui-ci. Et on entend jamais parler, en tous cas en France, de la voix sublime de Peter Hammil ! Ça devient choquant !!
I absolutely love VDGG and Peter Hammill, the lyrics magician. No better poets in the prog scene as Peter Hammill and Peter Sinfield, perhaps with the exception of Keith Reid. Don't misunderstand me, there's plenty of good lyrics writers in the prog world, Peter Gabriel, Jon Anderson, Fish, Neal Morse. But Hammill and Sinfield form a league of their own.
exactly - modern bard
Most of it is pretentious pompous bullshit though. I consider the lyrics of Hammill to be miles away from the pathetic schoolyard poetry of the likes of Jon Anderson.
Syd Barrett 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@evagiagnorio5464Yes, he was also great, pity he did not keep up with is fantastic output. I tend to forget him, so overwhelming is Floyd's activity after Syd, but I also listen to Piper, Saucerful and Relics a lot, as well as his individual art post Floyd.
@@Elias-no9fy Well, Anderson's message is mainly positive, whereas Hammill's is tortured, pessimistic. I guess he wants us to reflect on and consider what we are doing here. Anderson tends to have a speech much alike the esoteric concept, the Theosophical Society and other organisations . Funny that PH in person is not at all the guy we could expect from his lyrics.
Heard this on the radio as a 14-year-old in 1970, thought "Well that's it for pop music. There's better."
I was just 16 in 70. Same year I became a VDGG lifer listener. Saw them live in NYC in 71 or 72 for the first time. Life changing concert.
They didn't come to North America until 1976 and it was only for 2 shows .The First was in Toronto and the other was at the Beacon Th. in New York.
@@jimmontanya686 you are correct, i am wrong. i was at the Beacon show in NYC. thanks for the correct year.
No Van Der Graaf Generator no Roxy Music or Brian Eno. Great band and a wonderful number
50 years of listening to progressive rock and I'd heard of VDGG, and may have heard them on KSHE (without knowing who), but this is the first time I listened to them - incredible. THANKS for uploading.. and thanks to Al Gorithm at youtube for adding to my playlist.
Il mio primo amore grazie ai van der graaf ancora oggi ascolto musica refugees il mio preferito ❤
Thank you Beat Club - give me more !
They had an electric keyboard. ✌🎹
I think it is a farfisha,
Wow, nice - wish i knew this band before!
Its like ordering Deep Purple from Wish, and getting your money worth band! Love it!
On Twitter, Peter Hammill describes himself as a 'singist'. I just love that...!
Latest issue of PROG MAGAZINE brought me here. This us amazing music, and you cannot get much more PROG than this. :-)
My favourite band of all time. Goes back a long way.
4:14 e🅱️ic
Only Hugh can get away with a one-note keyboard solo.
2:58 killer bass line ... Kyuss and Stoner rock steal this
Fabulous clip of the full classic line-up.
Saludos Beat Club, excelente banda VDGG uno de los grandes exponentes del rock prog.
Wasn't Nic great, superb technique
This guy (Hammill) and these guys (VDGG) always blow me away when they grace my ears. Much love, appreciation, and admiration!
Just like everyone else has said. This song is amazing. The band’s musicianship is brilliant and so is the songwriting. And I love Peter’s voice and how passionately he sings. But am I really the only person here that noticed how breathtakingly beautiful Peter is? He’s rocking the whole Androgynous thing before Glam Rock even started. And I can picture the guys in Sweet dressed similarly to how he is, but a year or two after this. Just one of the many ways Peter is ahead of his time.
I’m probably one of the only commenters here that isn’t a straight male though, and there doesn’t seem to be a lot of female VDGG fans unfortunately. So I understand how his beauty wouldn’t matter to you lot. But they really could have capitalized more on Peter’s looks and on his strength as a frontman. He is truly hypnotizing to watch. I know they cared more about the music than attracting teenybopper fans though, and I do respect their artistic integrity.
Black Crows, I know lame comparison, somewhat cleaned up and very thined down
You make a good point actually and it is just one more reason why they should have been huge! There is a wonderful old photo of VdGG on stage somewhere in Europe, PH coiled around the mic stand doing his thing and an audience full of gorgeous Eurochicks all gazing up at him longingly... 😁
You’re so real for this
VDGG have never been quite the same without David Jackson. This show what they are missing
Amazing masterpiece!
I was a todler when this was performed, it is awesome. I really love VDGG!
PS: This song is about a vampire, right?
As a prog head for nearly a half century, VDGG is truly the greatest and most profound prog group that has ever been in the genre; overall. They set the bar...Many great prog groups sit on the bar or just below it; but it's Hammill that set it there; Hammill's site;
Day dawns dark, it now numbers infinity.
Life crawls from the past, watching in wonder
I trace its patterns in me.
Tomorrow's tomorrow is birth again.
Boats burn the bridge in the fens;
the time of the past returns to my life
and uses it.
Don't blame me for the letters that may form in the sand;
don't look in my eyes, you may see all the numbers
that stretch in my sky and colour my hand.
Don't say that I'm wrong in imagining
that the voice of my life cannot sing.
Fate enters and talks in old words:
they amuse it.
Hands shine darkly and white;
only in dark do they appear.
Bless the baby born today,
flying in pitch, flying on fear.
They shine in my eyes and touch my face
where I have seen them placed before;
don't blame me, please, for the fate that falls:
I did not choose it.
I did not, no, no, I did not,
I truly did not choose it.
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Guy was king of the drum kit.
Extremely accomplished player
ESPETÁCULO DE SOM PODEROSO. PROGRESSIVO DA MELHOR QUALIDADE.
Thought these guys were Krauts. Boy was I ever wrong! Another buncha Brits lol.
So underrated . Nobody remembers them. Thank you.
Leggendari,Epici,Mitici,Imperiosi,Gloriosi.....🙋🙏
i am here after chatgpt recommendation
HEHEHE LOTS OF GOLD MINES IN THE 70'S
Man's dual wielding saxophones like it's nothing.