Possible Causes for a Weak Xueyi Build | Xueyi In-Depth Character Guide

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  • @m1k3h4hn
    @m1k3h4hn 10 місяців тому +96

    May I got pin for first comment ??

    • @pepsodon
      @pepsodon 10 місяців тому +19

      your mom should be proud

    • @NinjaWarotMCph
      @NinjaWarotMCph 10 місяців тому +30

      Congrats.
      I have a pretty accurate feeling this is a pin of shame.

  • @cheezie9520
    @cheezie9520 10 місяців тому +230

    There's a special synergy between Xueyi and Tingyun that I haven't heard anyone talk about
    Tingyun's benediction makes your DPS do an extra hit of 40% Lightning Damage when they attack, and 60% when Tingyun attacks. As far as I know, this completely borrows your character's stats.
    On most non-Lightning characters, the damage will be really low because they won't build Lightning DMG bonus%. However, on Xueyi, her passive gives her a bunch of universal DMG bonus%, meaning it affects Tingyun's benediction hits, making it do WAY more damage than normal. In fact, it's sort of equivalent to just adding +40% multiplier to Xueyi's attacks, which is HUGE considering how low her multipliers are by themselves (although benediction is single-target).
    Xueyi's skill does 140% multiplier against the main target, and adding Benediction's 40% hit makes for a whopping 28.5% OVERALL damage increase! Only against the main target though
    In theory this works with Lightning characters too but in practice our strongest Lightning characters are either AoE focused or don't build much crit (JingYuan, Serval, Kafka), so right now, Xueyi seems to be the best for driving Benediction hits.

    • @NotBedWays
      @NotBedWays 10 місяців тому +14

      This should be pinned

    • @albertofrederickimana8046
      @albertofrederickimana8046 10 місяців тому +3

      This applies to Qingque as well.

    • @NotBedWays
      @NotBedWays 10 місяців тому +1

      @@albertofrederickimana8046 yes but a little less than xueyi

    • @cheezie9520
      @cheezie9520 10 місяців тому +11

      @@albertofrederickimana8046 On Qingque, since she doesn't keep her damage buff, it only buffs the Benediction hit that happens on her turn, and not on Tingyun's turn (which is actually where the bigger Benediction multiplier is). But you're definitely right that it gives big buffs to the hit on QQ's turn.
      I still think Xueyi is the best as a Benediction driver, but some other characters that benefit it are:
      - Imbibitor Lunae (Crit & Dmg%; only during his turn)
      - Yanqing (Crit; both for his turn and Tingyun's)
      - Seele (Dmg%; only during her turn)
      - Arlan (Dmg%; both for his turn and Tingyun's)
      Blade and Jingliu technically benefit it with Dmg% and Crit Rate respectively, but Blade doesn't build ATK and Jingliu's ATK bonuses from Spectral Transmigration don't apply to Benediction's hits, so it ends up doing lower damage.

    • @tranminhuc3593
      @tranminhuc3593 10 місяців тому

      You even forgot that, the dmg from the ally, is also proportional to the ally's crit dmg% as well. So even that one would crit, supposed that your DPS has good crit rate and crit dmg, and can do like, 20-30k. That's what I saw when pairing her with Dr Ratio, a crit to abt 30k average.
      This would mean that, it's not just the universal dmg%, but also the crit dmg% as well. So a decent build on Xueyi with good crit stats, and she's gonna perform really well on that passive hit not just bc of the dmg%.

  • @wallacehoward2792
    @wallacehoward2792 10 місяців тому +41

    I've become addicted to Xueyi + Ruan Mei. Planning Xueyi's ult and follow up to break a boss is awesome. It's like building to a crescendo, and the timing of it creates a new combat strategy and a new playstyle. I love it. Thanks so much for the informative video. Now I'm off to farm some ATK boots for my android assassin.

    • @banheesos
      @banheesos 10 місяців тому +2

      lmao same, although I'm relatively new to the game I managed to get Ruan Mei + E6 Xueyi, got some copies of Pela and Lynx and had been using these 4 in one team. the way my lvl 60 Xueyi dealt 30k crit after a proper setup is wild to me but idk if that dmg is good enough but it was so good to me lol

    • @junky2fk
      @junky2fk 10 місяців тому +1

      @@banheesos30k at lvl 60 is insane lol

  • @CrusherKingZ
    @CrusherKingZ 10 місяців тому +11

    Thanks for doing all the effort to make this in-depth guide, I love how you explain everything and how you are transparent with your calculations.
    My Xueyi still needs two eidolons but I will complete her build because she is really fun to use.

  • @PipPanoma
    @PipPanoma 8 місяців тому +1

    I would've never guessed that she actually needs an attack orb. That's great advice!

  • @tsuki5993
    @tsuki5993 10 місяців тому +109

    i absolutely cannot wait for you to get jing yuan and do a guide on him

    • @ironheadedDoF
      @ironheadedDoF 10 місяців тому +1

      at least his lightcone for your eruditions

    • @tsuki5993
      @tsuki5993 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ironheadedDoF she already got before dawn iirc

    • @haunt7121
      @haunt7121 10 місяців тому

      @@tsuki5993apparently dreamy is a man

    • @utsubyo
      @utsubyo 10 місяців тому

      @@haunt7121 apparently your sources are incorrect lol

  • @ForTheViolence
    @ForTheViolence 10 місяців тому +24

    She’s a different character at E6. Just like Blade, anytime you lessen a characters requirement to activate their main mechanic you make the character significantly better.

  • @akabakaro
    @akabakaro 10 місяців тому +2

    Yooo thanks so much for this video. I had a decently built Xueyi (easily one of my favorite characters in the game!) and after watching your video, with what I had on hand, made some tweaks based on your sharing, and she has upgraded so so so much. She's that much more satisfying to play now. Back to farming to further finetune!
    Really appreciate the content you create and share with all of us! Keep it up! Always most look forward to your videos.

  • @OdysseyNaafiri
    @OdysseyNaafiri 10 місяців тому +2

    This was the best vid on Xueyi I've seen actually helpful and explained very well. I spent over 50 potions to farm for her and she's still so weak lol. Now I know how to fix it

  • @jamess359
    @jamess359 10 місяців тому +51

    Hoyoverse really needs to show how much toughness damage each attack deals. They also need to put a numerical value on the enemies toughness bar for clarity.
    I honestly dont know why they dont do this.

    • @Haqua_
      @Haqua_ 10 місяців тому +4

      If we get more characters that rely on toughness mechanics in the future, I think people will send feeback about that QoL improvement, for sure.

  • @saoifchannel3352
    @saoifchannel3352 10 місяців тому +59

    i knew your approach to xueyi is different, the damage you dealt are significantly strange compared to the other cc, not saying their bad, but the unit itself is unique and takes time to understand

  • @cyrene03
    @cyrene03 10 місяців тому

    Really love using her. Thank you for the guides as always!

  • @diligent2323
    @diligent2323 10 місяців тому

    I just got Xueyi E6 and you dropped this, ty

  • @baizhu
    @baizhu 10 місяців тому +5

    thanks for the guide, dreamy! i always look forward to your videos. congrats on the tournament win!

  • @futanahriadventures
    @futanahriadventures 10 місяців тому +11

    The reason for my weak Xueyi? Not pulling a single copy of her after 110 pulls in.

  • @fireandice3485
    @fireandice3485 10 місяців тому +2

    Ty you for the hard work!
    I appreciate your guides!

  • @cesaraugusto6083
    @cesaraugusto6083 10 місяців тому

    Great timing for your video as I just started building my Xueyi and Hanya this week. The sisters team will be fun to play

  • @boot2478
    @boot2478 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for the vid! I can't wait to build Xueyi now

  • @NotBedWays
    @NotBedWays 10 місяців тому +3

    2:02 the talent also counts other allies breaking toughness

    • @CrusherKingZ
      @CrusherKingZ 10 місяців тому +1

      The problem is that it doesn't matter how much toughness the allies break she always get only 1 stack from them, but if she is the one depleting the toughness bar she can get more than 1 stack at time

  • @Jojokun5235
    @Jojokun5235 10 місяців тому +3

    Awesome video dreamy. You helped me a lot in clarifying all the jumbled stats that xueyi needs. But I'm not planning on building her yet since I only have her at e2.

  • @Pip-n4u
    @Pip-n4u 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for answering my doubt all this time! Gotta work on that crit rate body. Great guide as always.

  • @SappyTedjajuwana
    @SappyTedjajuwana 10 місяців тому

    thank you dreamy!!!! ❤
    been waiting for your in depth guide for xueyi.

  • @Mike.Erman.Trout.
    @Mike.Erman.Trout. 10 місяців тому

    I've seen other analysis videos with charts comparing salsotto and Talia planar sets, with Talia coming out on top in terms of damage output (if you hit the speed target), but I love how you explained the best stat rolls for her

  • @سيمفوني
    @سيمفوني 10 місяців тому

    Wow, i really had the thought why is my xueyi so weak and your reasons were so on point XD , i will try to build her with your guide this time

  • @Jay_Shawn_Green
    @Jay_Shawn_Green 10 місяців тому +1

    Guess there's a silver lining in getting one copy o Under the Night Sky at S5.
    Sadly, only March's Eidolons so far, but I'm already happy to have E0 Xueyi.
    Thank you for the guide! It answered my questions on why it is recommended Atk% Orb and Atk% Boots.

  • @ormitomimus
    @ormitomimus 8 місяців тому +1

    I see, i must admit, i got her kit entirely wrong lol. After some unsuccessful playing and frantic reading on what's wrong, I suspected her E6 may be a huge part.

  • @Zaxster_-3-
    @Zaxster_-3- 10 місяців тому

    I'm so glad that your video popped up in my recommended. The amount of incorrect guides and info I had read on her was really bugging me, such as hearing that Hanya is actually a bad support for Xueyi despite her filling the exact stat voids present. Your video taught me to go off of my own assumptions and logical thinking rather than following some "official guide" (ahah quite ironic). Your theorycrafting is awesome, thank you!

  • @singyist
    @singyist 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for that. Some good tips for her. Will look to alter her current build based on this. Back to the mines I go!

  • @adastra5295
    @adastra5295 10 місяців тому +1

    So Xueyi's best 4* lightcone (blue sky) is actually her own light cone! I'd already rolled a decent talia set before leveling her, but I will probably switch to salsotto after watching this, which happens to have my best BE+crit rope. I think my speed boots should be good enough since I've left the quantum mines to work on ascensions and traces.

  • @renmizuki5852
    @renmizuki5852 10 місяців тому

    this was super helpful!!!!! off to optimize my xueyi...

  • @Xeo0312
    @Xeo0312 10 місяців тому +4

    Love the guide, hope you can also do a Dr. Ratio guide 🙂

  • @saarabazdriftinginvestamig8434
    @saarabazdriftinginvestamig8434 10 місяців тому +1

    Honestly, I decided to do 2 10-pulls to get my Xueyi to E6 after watching the video. I feel like she's very fun to play even though we have good Quantum DPS as well. Hopefully, I'll be able to build her after I escape the speed set grind for my Bronya.

  • @Kytelngc
    @Kytelngc 10 місяців тому

    I was lucky enough to pull E6 Xueyi in the last banner and she absolutely slaps with Tingyuen.

  • @NineLives99999
    @NineLives99999 10 місяців тому +2

    Can you explain what you mean by salsotto > talia when team composition is considered?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому +1

      The 8% critical chance increase has its value increased because the more you stack ATK% and DMG% buffs, the more your critical multiplers lag behind. You also improve its value by getting multiple Broken Keels on your supports. If she is with Bronya, the CDMG buff of Bronya also increases the value of that 8% crit.

  • @Romero_m8
    @Romero_m8 10 місяців тому

    One of the best designed characters, I love baddass cute android girls + her kit is unique and is the best 4 star units alongside tingyun, unfortunately didn't get her e6 but got e2 Ruan Mei which is a fantastic addition to any team

  • @adenanf
    @adenanf 10 місяців тому

    thank you for the guide!!

  • @Varsien
    @Varsien 10 місяців тому +2

    Thank you!

  • @lynnoka2432
    @lynnoka2432 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for this!

  • @OverlordMango
    @OverlordMango 10 місяців тому +8

    You're absolutely my favorite TC. This video solved my lingering doubts, even after seeing so many guides, clear videos and playing her myself.
    Gonna run Xueyi with Atk boots and use Under the Blue Sky. Running that LC felt like it made so much sense, but everyone else is suggesting Aeon instead, when we all can clearly see that her Atk multipliers are bad.

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому +9

      Aeon is actually her best LC, there is no doubt about it. Just that the low CRIT makes it feel horrible to play Xueyi. Meanwhile, Under The Blue Sky or even DHIL's signature already gives free CRIT and seeing consistent CRITs, getting buffed by 3 Broken Keels would definitely show a much better performance for Xueyi.

    • @saoifchannel3352
      @saoifchannel3352 10 місяців тому +1

      @@LisaraScarlet totally agreed, if you have the perfect artifact, aeon is the best, but more often than not, no one has perfect artifact...

    • @uc-cr7uq
      @uc-cr7uq 10 місяців тому +1

      I'm gonna wait for the misha LC in 2.0,having invest in the moles s5 LC because my under the blue sky is s1,kinda regret it but i dont wanna waste energy upgrade another lightcone that i may ditch later

  • @mukurowl1473
    @mukurowl1473 10 місяців тому

    Good guide I hope you reach 100k subs I'll always support you

  • @Ibaly23
    @Ibaly23 10 місяців тому +2

    🎉Lets see what kowledge we got from you this timeb

  • @Imchelou
    @Imchelou 10 місяців тому

    Ok im changing the spd boots to atk%. Thank you 🥰

  • @dmroses
    @dmroses 9 місяців тому +1

    hey dreamy, not sure if you'll see this but if you do; any thoughts on the new 4star destruction lc "indelible promise" with xueyi?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  9 місяців тому +1

      Definitely super good on her, I auto-equipped it on her after getting it to S5. Just need a proper stage to showcase it, sadly there's none.

    • @dmroses
      @dmroses 9 місяців тому +1

      @@LisaraScarlet ooo glad to hear that, such a W for the xueyi enjoyers (me)
      if i may ask, are you still running break effect rope or would atk% be more preferable with this lc? :>

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  9 місяців тому

      @@dmroses Still BE rope.

    • @dmroses
      @dmroses 9 місяців тому

      @@LisaraScarlet noted, ty!

  • @RenjiX24
    @RenjiX24 10 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for vid! Xueyi is my favorite character right now, her visual design chief kiss. And her animations are amazing. Sad that i hella pulled to get at least a e4 but ended up e6 march xD

  • @elixxon
    @elixxon 10 місяців тому

    I'm indeed crying in only E1 Xueyi....

  • @QMS9224
    @QMS9224 10 місяців тому +4

    Wouldn't the damage distributions not take into account entaglement damage? So for example getting more crit rolls is stronger than getting break effect rolls but break rolls are double dipping into entanglment dmg as well. Or this was already calculated in?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому +1

      The gains from extra entanglement damage is too small.

    • @QMS9224
      @QMS9224 10 місяців тому

      @@LisaraScarlet hmm fair point I guess it’s only strong against elite mobs and if they are already dead than it doesn’t matter. Maybe it’s good for the extra delay if you are running no sustain with Ryan mei, but yeah now that I think about it the extra damage even if you were to break every elite mob is still not much

  • @purple455
    @purple455 10 місяців тому +2

    i have e6 qinque but i like xueyis design and personality so much more, i guess ill suffer for better relics to make her viable

  • @RaphaniacZX
    @RaphaniacZX 10 місяців тому +5

    Ok so Talia is worse because you say the 8% crate is more value on a team than the 36% BE/DMG% because of overload? Because neither the ult or FuA dmg compete, you also say speed boots are worse and recommend Hanya but what if a person wants to do SW/Ruan for example, I feel what you're saying makes surface level sense considering the 55%/45% split but I am not sure a Xueyi is doing less damage if they just use fall, speed boots and Talia and have RM get them 147 for more hits for more toughness break... you don't have to respond I'm just puzzled that's all

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому +1

      When you consider that an endgame setup usually involves all 3 supports equipped with Broken Keel, this makes the 8% CRIT from Salsotto have more value. Not to mention, Xueyi literally has no other sources of CRIT, you build it from the ground. This experience is especially worse if you don't use Brighter Than The Sun or Under The Blue Sky. Some of the best solo carry supports provides too much DMG% like Bronya and Ruan Mei, this makes Xueyi even more hungrier for ATK% and any critical stat boost. Luckily, Bronya not only gives extra actions for Xueyi but also that much needed CDMG that Xueyi is heavily lacking.

    • @raulmaltrain6893
      @raulmaltrain6893 10 місяців тому

      @@LisaraScarlet does this mean that if a new lightcone came in the next patch that gave crit rate and break things would change?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому

      @@raulmaltrain6893 Still depends.

    • @memetic_hazard
      @memetic_hazard 10 місяців тому

      With just a break rope you already reach 100% BE. Add in E4 for 40% BE and then 6 substat rolls and you're at 170 BE.
      Then add in 8% quantum from traces and 10% from quantum set and you're close to 190.
      Crit substats are each worth around 2% increase in damage, peaking at 70/140, and don't fall off too much before you reach 100/200.
      At +190% damage, the average break substat of 5.8% is a 2% increase. It's already roughly on par with crit stats, but if you're stuck with a light cone that gives you damage, or if you have Ruan Mei, who increases that by 88%, break falls off even more in value.
      Well, that's looking at just the direct damage anyway. I don't have the resources to build Xueyi yet so I can't say how much her entanglement and break damage factors into the equation. I've seen the 55/45 split but I don't know how that actually holds up in MoC.
      I suspect that the higher numbers in Talia set will make up for the differences somewhat as long as you're not overcapping break effect, and then it boils down to the quality of your substats.

    • @RaphaniacZX
      @RaphaniacZX 10 місяців тому

      ​@@LisaraScarlet I respect your opinion and acknowledge your calculator and results, but I think it depends on the account and the ways a person wants to use Xueyi. I envisioned Xueyi with SW/Pela Fu and E1 RM to truly tap into the def shred value with Fall helping her ATK and her getting more benefit from another damage source over overloading her with other harmonies on damage% like Bronya, and into breaking enemies quickly to then nuking them with the high BE breaks while what you're describing is more focused on her upfront damage rather than her quantum burst.
      I do not like the idea of using her with Tingyun when her energy needs are low to nonexistent, or building Hanya just for her when I don't have her E4, I don't own a crit boosting destruction LC so I also sadly can't replicate what you're saying and don't appreciate Under the blue sky's conditional, nor do I like the idea of dropping speed boots if I want to use her in weird setups like Himeko RM in SU for example which deny me versatility and make me rely on external chars or switching gear out for the basic extra actions and I am neither obsessed with Broken Keel/prefer using Vonquack on my tingyun for example to enable the 3T ult rotation for Argenti for example. I'll consider your inert salsotto idea however as I can see the argument you already are overloaded enough in BE in theory
      Thank you for guide, taking time to reply and your insight 🙏🏻

  • @geebeepman
    @geebeepman 10 місяців тому

    I already have e0s1 seele but also wanted to build an aoe quantum dps so I was initially considering building my e2 xeuyi rather than my e6 qq since I assumed xueyi would be a lot simpler to play; but all this toughness management and xueyi wanting to be the one to reduce them rather than her teammates feels like more extra thinking compared to just hoping to get 4 of the same tiles for qq. on second thought, I'll stick to the gremlin instead. thanks for clarifying her kit.

  • @GlaringCoNtRaDiCtIoN
    @GlaringCoNtRaDiCtIoN 10 місяців тому

    That voice reminds me Keqing's so in my vision Keqing explains how to make your Xuei to slayyy the whole game

  • @melchizedekpsj
    @melchizedekpsj 10 місяців тому

    Fascinating!

  • @lld401
    @lld401 9 місяців тому

    Nice video is her main damage from her ultimate or her follow up?

  • @couronne1003
    @couronne1003 10 місяців тому

    I have to thank the bald man for introducing me to your channel. The UA-cam algorithm never included you in my recommendations. In fact you are the second person making a relevant guide for this character. given the staggering number of content creators on hsr, it's not a lot.

  • @little7cider
    @little7cider 10 місяців тому

    Love the vid!
    Love xueyi... but couldnt get her to e6 :')

  • @ilsun_3613
    @ilsun_3613 10 місяців тому

    i just started play on ruan mei banner and get E6 xueyi along whit ruan mei and blade, she is my best DPS

  • @NanookThedestruction
    @NanookThedestruction 9 місяців тому +1

    How about the new lightcone indelible promise?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  9 місяців тому

      Should be super good on her esp if you run Xueyi with Tingyun.

    • @NanookThedestruction
      @NanookThedestruction 9 місяців тому

      @@LisaraScarlet thank you for the reply. i have seen people running attack boots instead speed, saying that better to break the enemy slowly. Opinions on that?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  9 місяців тому

      @@NanookThedestruction My showcases are mostly on ATK boots but that's because I can compensate for it by boosting her speed through supports.

    • @NanookThedestruction
      @NanookThedestruction 9 місяців тому

      @@LisaraScarlet i see. Will try your set up. Many thanks.

  • @RogerNbr
    @RogerNbr 10 місяців тому +1

    no mention for space sealing station? i thought she would appreciate the atk%

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому

      Salsotto is just too good for her.

  • @tredecim_
    @tredecim_ 10 місяців тому +1

    Got march 4 times in a row trying to get her e6, she's at e5 right now 😥

  • @Akiikage
    @Akiikage 10 місяців тому +1

    I definitely don't know how to build xueyi. Thanks for the quality guide as always dreamy!

  • @VesuviusH70
    @VesuviusH70 10 місяців тому +1

    This build ignores the extra benefits from high break effect on quantum break. It might do more damage, but there is that downside.

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому +1

      You can use a break effect damage calculator and you will see how bad the damage increase is from more break effect.

    • @VesuviusH70
      @VesuviusH70 10 місяців тому

      @@LisaraScarlet there's also the delay from entanglement that gets improved.

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому

      @@VesuviusH70 Yea and that doesn't get improved much either.

  • @powerslide246
    @powerslide246 6 місяців тому

    Since the lc has been out for a while now, would you say indelible promise is better than aeon for her these days? Or should I just keep aeon on her? Also would quantum damage be fine on the sphere? Or is it a lot worse than atk%?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  6 місяців тому

      Indelible Promise is better for sure. Quantum sphere is fine but it is noticeably worse than ATK.

    • @powerslide246
      @powerslide246 6 місяців тому

      @@LisaraScarlet Thanks, I really appreciate you keeping up with the advice in the comments section.

  • @Iyoverse
    @Iyoverse 10 місяців тому +1

    Great guide, Dreamy! I’m probably gonna ask you in a DM anyway, buuuuuut if her DMG on the board is influenced more by her crit build, then what exactly happens with her A2? Is it worthless or is there a sweet spot to further enhance the DMG?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому +3

      The issue is that the DMG% gets stacked too fast with just her own traces and a BE rope. Then add some random BE rolls, she will have more than enough DMG% source from herself. Then you add supports that gives DMG%, it just makes CRIT/CDMG have much much more value. Xueyi especially with Fall of an Aeon is just having so much problems trying to build her critical stats.

  • @ruinadotime8374
    @ruinadotime8374 10 місяців тому +1

    thanks for the Guide, i was using speed bots with Glamoth's Planar set (135 speed = 12% dmg) since i also use Hanya to achieve 160 speed. Sadly, because of this, i gave up a lot of crit (68 r / 105 d) and only have 120 Be.

    • @KrimSonn.1
      @KrimSonn.1 10 місяців тому +1

      how is she performing now with atk boots? and with salsotto ofc

    • @ruinadotime8374
      @ruinadotime8374 10 місяців тому +1

      @@KrimSonn.1 I'm farming a New set for a While. It takes Time for me.

  • @user89389
    @user89389 10 місяців тому

    I think this is a great guide, but mostly for an expensive / lucky Xueyi. Maybe one day I'll come back here, but until then, I'm gonna go have to look for tips on building budget / unlucky Xueyi 🤣

  • @MrAlexjmercer
    @MrAlexjmercer 10 місяців тому +4

    10:11 My heart crushed when I literally looking for sub DPS for Seele and get Xueyi early. Only to find out that she prefers to work alone.

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому +5

      Hyper buffing your Seele would produce better results.

    • @jamess359
      @jamess359 10 місяців тому

      Why do you want a sub-dps for Seele?

  • @Rainmaker1O
    @Rainmaker1O 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video! . Its sad that the one thing that seems interesting to me, the ability to attack enemies with no cuantum resistance and damage that resistances with the ult (and the extra attack after 2d eidolon) doesnt make her viable or usefull in a team like that. Maybe with silverwolf to force quantum resistance? and even so i dont think that gonna work :(

  • @CrizDig0
    @CrizDig0 10 місяців тому

    Hi Dreamy! I just managed to get my Xueyi build revamped thanks to this video.
    One question tho. Why do you suggest Daniel’s LC more than then Aeon? She’s not really capable of getting that atk boost unless she auto attacks which we don’t want right?
    Thanks!

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому

      Yea it is not 100% compatible with her but I really like the free CRIT considering Xueyi struggles to build high CRIT chance.

    • @CrizDig0
      @CrizDig0 10 місяців тому

      @@LisaraScarlet And it compensates the lack of atk lost?
      I do have extra laying around so should I use that instead of Aeon you think? Would Blades LC also work?
      Currently at 2.6k atk, 135BE and 68 crit but only 100 crit dmg (E6).
      My planar set pieces don’t have crit dmg subs so I can farm for those. Thoughts?
      Thanks so much!

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому

      @@CrizDig0 Based on solo damage calculations, it is around 15% weaker than S5 Fall of an Aeon. Blade's LC doesn't work since it has low base ATK.
      68% CRIT? Using which LC? If that's with S5 Aeon, then those stats should be okay.

    • @CrizDig0
      @CrizDig0 10 місяців тому

      @@LisaraScarlet Thanks for the prompt response. Using Aeon S5 yes. Worth using Daniel’s LC you think if I get better planar with crit dmg?
      Sorry to bother!

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому

      @@CrizDig0 Yea the CDMG is a bit on the low side. Supports wearing Broken Keel should help a lot if you are switching to DHIL's LC.

  • @brianmah5965
    @brianmah5965 10 місяців тому

    I wish I could justify going for that last Eidolon, but I must save for Space Mei. Here's hoping she shows up in the shop.

  • @LCDgunmage
    @LCDgunmage 6 місяців тому

    With the introduction of HMC and super break does it now make sense to use break planar and break relic set over quantum and salsatto?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  6 місяців тому +1

      You will lose too much damage by focusing too much on break effect even with super break available.

    • @LCDgunmage
      @LCDgunmage 6 місяців тому

      @@LisaraScarlet alrighty then. I have Seele but I like Xueyi's design and weakness ignoring ult and follow up (planning to put her on a team with Boothill). Am I better off using ATK or quantum damage boost for planar orb?
      Side note...I want to use this opportunity to get her to E6 (currently at E4) but I would rather have Boothill than Robin...

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  6 місяців тому

      @@LCDgunmage Xueyi wants ATK sphere.

  • @Bryan26Hawaii
    @Bryan26Hawaii 6 місяців тому

    Sup Lisara I’m building my harmony mc now, not gonna use Ruan. But I was wondering if my break asta is good with the team for super breaks. Or would sparkle be better? Currently she’s at 145 wind set lol if I use my bronya gear she would be 134.

  • @taikobo6943
    @taikobo6943 10 місяців тому

    Finally i have an opinion on Xueyi

  • @dankmeimes4274
    @dankmeimes4274 10 місяців тому

    my big question here, and this is a thorough guide
    Is that with e4 is salsotto still better than talia?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому

      E4 just gives Xueyi more DMG% which should make Salsotto even better compared to Talia.

    • @dankmeimes4274
      @dankmeimes4274 10 місяців тому

      yeah that makes sense, before e6 do sets like rutillant compete better or is it just not a contest
      @@LisaraScarlet

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому

      @@dankmeimes4274 Xueyi's highest damage source is her FUAs so RA isn't really good on her.

    • @dankmeimes4274
      @dankmeimes4274 10 місяців тому

      @ayadreamy oh neat I thought the followup would be lower prio without e6 cool stuff ty

  • @ChocolateChessboard
    @ChocolateChessboard 10 місяців тому

    Hey! I recently started watching your videos. First of all, thanks for uploading such quality, informative HSR videos. Now, my question: What do you use for that AI voice? Just out of curiosity.

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому +1

      ElevenLabs.

    • @ChocolateChessboard
      @ChocolateChessboard 10 місяців тому

      @@LisaraScarlet Ah, that makes a lot of sense. ElevenLabs had very good AI voices.

  • @tagaclaudiu
    @tagaclaudiu 10 місяців тому +4

    I have a question that was not answered in the video.
    Which of the two sisters do you find the cutest?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому +15

      None because both of them are the cutest when they are together.

    • @tagaclaudiu
      @tagaclaudiu 10 місяців тому +4

      An answer fitting for a monarch.

  • @yahtzee4493
    @yahtzee4493 10 місяців тому

    What's a good stopping point with her break effect and speed?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому +1

      Speed only matters if she's SP negative or SP positive. Minimum 134 SPD for SP negative. As fast as you can for SP positive. Minimum BE is 180%. Any extra BE is luxury.

    • @yahtzee4493
      @yahtzee4493 10 місяців тому

      @@LisaraScarlet thank you so much Dreamy

  • @CanShades
    @CanShades 10 місяців тому +1

    Would ATK% boots be better for Xueyi even she is at 134 base speed along with the 10% speed boost Ruan Mei’s talent provides, making the final speed 145, and thus giving her the Talia planar ornament’s extra 20% break effect?

    • @LocoDS49
      @LocoDS49 10 місяців тому +1

      You need a minimum of 136 speed to reach talia's 145 requirement using ruan mei's talent alone. Also, Ruan Mei's talent takes into account base speed alone which is 103 for Xueyi. Boots are not Base speed.

    • @CanShades
      @CanShades 10 місяців тому

      @@LocoDS49 I meant base speed as in speed before Ruan Mei’s talent. 134 is the minimum for 145 speed with the talent:
      134-103= 31 (SPD boots and 6 speed in substats)
      103*1,1=113,3
      113,3+31=144,3
      The game rounds up 144,3 to 145, thus meeting the conditions for Talia

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому +1

      Losing 43% ATK is just too much, you'll definitely notice this on your Xueyi's performance. But if there's really no one in the team that is giving her speed, then go use SPD boots.

  • @M.A.T.123
    @M.A.T.123 7 місяців тому

    you think xueyi + harmony tb will change the value of building crit rather BE after getting BE rope + Atk sphere on her?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  7 місяців тому

      I can't discuss leaks as an official hoyocreator.

    • @M.A.T.123
      @M.A.T.123 7 місяців тому

      @@LisaraScarlet :'( oof

  • @just_lute3158
    @just_lute3158 10 місяців тому +2

    I actually commited every mistake Dreamy pointed out, having speed boots, not using Salsotto, using too many characters to deplet toughness, etc. I still managed to clear MOC 12 with Xueyi/SW/Fu Xuan/Ruan Mei on 2nd half, but I still felt that she was sort of weak. Now I know what sort of ajustments I should do and see if my Xueyi's damage gets improve. Thanks Dreamy for this guide and winning the tournament which was absolutely insane.

  • @stellar_10
    @stellar_10 10 місяців тому

    Thank you ..i have Xue yi e6..I will try build with your guide...btw ruan mei e2 is good? Or just aim to e1?

  • @teaa__
    @teaa__ 6 місяців тому

    Why did you give her break effect rope rather than quantum dmg bonus? Also, could you explain why crit and atk is needed if you can just add on dmg bonus? I was js wondering bc I don't really get it😅

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  6 місяців тому

      You can't have a Quantum DMG rope. You need to build crit because it is a whole separate multiplier and the amount of damage you can get from it is pretty massive. Stacking to 240% DMG just causes diminishing returns.

    • @teaa__
      @teaa__ 6 місяців тому

      @@LisaraScarlet Sorry, I meant to say sphere. Still, why was break effect used rather than dmg bonus? why is there diminishing returns? sorry for all the questions, im just curious/confused

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  6 місяців тому

      @@teaa__ You mean ATK sphere right? Cause you can only have BE on rope.

    • @teaa__
      @teaa__ 6 місяців тому

      @@LisaraScarlet yeaaaa, thats what i meant
      why the be rope instead of atk and atk sphere instead of dmg bonus?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  6 місяців тому +1

      @@teaa__ Because Xueyi converts BE to DMG% through her trace.

  • @cutcorners6005
    @cutcorners6005 10 місяців тому +1

    lets say you have two dance3 S1 LCs. Are you better off using them on two harmony characters separately in a team or superimpose it and put it on one? I feel like not superimposing should be better but I don't know, I haven't looked at the math.

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому

      It really depends on what team you're trying to create. For example, Tingyun alone is typically equipped with Cogs so she can maintain a 3-turn SP positive rotation. 2x DDD requires a lot of planning and speed tuning.

  • @smexxxxy
    @smexxxxy 10 місяців тому

    Dreamy, did you take entanglement damage into account when you said Crit>BE ?

  • @omastar5021
    @omastar5021 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for the recommendations, just a few questions I have a quantum sphere with really good substats, could I use that or does it lose too much DMG compared to ATK?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому +1

      As long as its really really good substats, should be fine.

    • @omastar5021
      @omastar5021 10 місяців тому

      @@LisaraScarlet thanks

  • @Zaxster_-3-
    @Zaxster_-3- 10 місяців тому

    Question: I'm conflicted as to which 2nd support to run her with (Ruan Mei being the first). My options are Hanya, Tingyun and Bronya. What I was thinking is that Tingyun would be good for brute forcing non-quantum weak enemies, as her ult regain would allow Xueyi to spam her ultimate more. Hanya would then be used for team comps against quantum weak enemies. Could you provide your opinion on this if possible?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому +1

      Hanya could probably replaced better by a DEF shredder like Pela or Silver Wolf.

  • @shirayuzu
    @shirayuzu 10 місяців тому

    I actually didnt hav seele or quingque when i got xueyi, but i loved her so much that i scrambled a quantum set for her, but didnt have quantum ball, so i settled with atk instead.
    And now i guess the atk ballz stays on

  • @TrilainaBloodwind
    @TrilainaBloodwind 10 місяців тому

    Just curious because I have yet to see the question get asked:
    Why an attack % orb? I can understand that Xueyi scales well off the Break% more than the Atk% rope, and ERR her does barely anything to matter, but my understanding is that usually an elemental orb always outdoes an ATK% orb. Anything special about an attack orb on Xueyi that changes that assumption?
    Also, amazing guide! I sadly am stuck at E5 on my robo rogue, but as soon as I get E6, Im running back to this guide to build her Pronto!

    • @Glast04
      @Glast04 10 місяців тому +2

      It’s because of her Bonus Ability “Clairvoyant Loom,” which converts 100% of Xueyi’s break effect to Damage Bonus-up to 240%. Xueyi would by default have quite high Break effect, with a Break effect rope and the amount she gets from traces. It’s pretty easy for her to have 80+ break effect which means she’ll have a lot of Dmg Bonus. Combine all this with the fact that she gains no Atk from traces and doesn’t run an Atk% Rope, it’s quite fitting that an Atk% orb would outperform Quantom Damage Boost on her.

    • @TrilainaBloodwind
      @TrilainaBloodwind 10 місяців тому

      @@Glast04 thanks for the info! Makes sense, just kind of crazy that she gets such an insane amount of damage % that an elemental orb gets outperformed by an atk% orb.

    • @Glast04
      @Glast04 10 місяців тому +1

      @@TrilainaBloodwind Np :D. It’s balanced out by none of her scalings being very impressive. It also makes her quite difficult to build since there’s a lot of stats to aim for 🥲

    • @TrilainaBloodwind
      @TrilainaBloodwind 10 місяців тому

      @@Glast04 no kidding. Kind of reminds me of Welt, where you need a blend of the standard hyper-carry stats, but also 30-40% EHR as well x(

  • @kiennguyenchi8940
    @kiennguyenchi8940 10 місяців тому

    it was helpful, thanks a lot :v

  • @_elive
    @_elive 10 місяців тому +3

    Did you take Break damage into account in your calcs? I couldn't tell exactly from the sheet. I think that can potentially put slightly more priority on Break Effect rather than Crit (ofc Crit shouldn't be ignored). Also, would you still suggest ATK% Boots with little to no Speed buffs from allies?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому

      You can actually try and test calculating break effect damage with very high break effect stats, the damage increase is just pathetic and not worth it. For the other question, as long as she is reaching at least 134 speed.

  • @RAZORlukic
    @RAZORlukic 5 місяців тому

    What about building her now with the new Harmony Trailblazer?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  5 місяців тому

      Critical build Xueyi with BE rope is still better than focusing too much on BE stats.

    • @RAZORlukic
      @RAZORlukic 5 місяців тому

      ​@@LisaraScarlet When I first built her, I really believed that BE is just better, cs it gives you the break dmg plus also ATK,.
      Are any of the new relics better than the ones you use here?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  5 місяців тому

      @@RAZORlukic New relics won't beat Quantum set on Xueyi.

    • @RAZORlukic
      @RAZORlukic 5 місяців тому

      @@LisaraScarlet Sorry to be annoying, but I do have 1 more question, my Xueyi still has the Thief and Kingdom combo, she is well over 160 Be now.
      Can I stay on the same set, if I use ATK rope instead of BE.
      Keep in my I'm doing this, cs I just currently am very low on Relics, so I don't have a lot of option.
      Is the difference in performance so Huge, that I won't be able to clear content without the Quantom set?

    • @RAZORlukic
      @RAZORlukic 5 місяців тому

      Oh yea btw, Keep in mind also that I don't have Ruan Mei, and I won't pull her this time

  • @roxas5071
    @roxas5071 10 місяців тому

    im currently focusing on building my herta so when i start farming inert salsotto ill see if i can get some pieces for xueyi

  • @icecreambone
    @icecreambone 10 місяців тому +1

    does she still work as a sub-dps for breaking weakness faster in other teams? initially people were saying she was like xiangling in her versatility, but this makes it seem like she really only has one hypercarry team that's good for her since she's a selfish dps

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому

      If she goes into other teams, the only source of break is her ULT, no? Unless you are already fighting quantum weak enemies.

    • @icecreambone
      @icecreambone 10 місяців тому

      @@LisaraScarlet E2 also ignores type on FUA. i also see other people saying to pair her with seele sometimes. but my main question is just whether she is only useful as hypercarry. sub-dps was just an example

  • @HASCHUL
    @HASCHUL 10 місяців тому

    THANK YOUUU

  • @minhtarus5113
    @minhtarus5113 8 місяців тому

    Do I need any speed or do I just use bronya/sparkle/dance dance dance etc.?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  8 місяців тому +1

      I did say that you use ATK boots on Xueyi then use turn manipulators whether they increase speed or give advance forwards. So yea, just use any turn manipulators.

  • @lucassilverio2880
    @lucassilverio2880 10 місяців тому

    I'd like to know what's your opinion on energy rope for xueyi. I know most dps doesnt want energy rope and i'm too early in the game to test that out, but i really thought that was kinda promissing.

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому +1

      Removing BE rope is a huge damage loss.

  • @edabb5321
    @edabb5321 10 місяців тому

    I already know why mine's weak w/o watching the vid... she's e0, lol.
    edit: I finished the vid and yeah, it pained me to find out I couldn't use her as sub dps. but it's alright, I'm hoping to get e6 from standard banner (I've 60 standard passes that I'll use in 2.0) or on her next rate up provided she gets featured on a 5* banner I want. I risked enough to get her e0 as I'm skipping ruan Mei

  • @illusionmaho4898
    @illusionmaho4898 10 місяців тому

    Thank you so much....

  • @backseat-of-the-audience
    @backseat-of-the-audience 10 місяців тому

    can you target who her follow up attack hits?

  • @CrusherKingZ
    @CrusherKingZ 10 місяців тому

    In case we get a LC with break and crate or cdmg the rope could be changed to attack right?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  10 місяців тому +1

      Probably not. The reason why you want it is because of the high value.

  • @KobanWanko
    @KobanWanko 10 місяців тому

    Hey Dreamy, why should we go for an ATK sphere when Quantum dmg exists? Is the elemental dmg bonus not as strong as atk% on her?

    • @grampaseri
      @grampaseri 10 місяців тому +1

      She already has a ton of dmg% bonus, you want atk so the hit actually does something before the multiplier.

    • @KobanWanko
      @KobanWanko 10 місяців тому

      @@grampaseri Thanks for the explanation. Didn't realize the calculations for this game were so different from genshin's. Explains a lot for why specific character's dps' being so wildly different.
      Are there any other dps characters that have this issue of dmg% being effectively useless on them compared to atk?

  • @HoriZen5
    @HoriZen5 4 місяці тому

    Would you say he xueyi, hanya, tingyun, bailu team is still viable? If it is but with certain character switches, which ones?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  4 місяці тому

      It is still viable for sure but if you want to know Xueyi's current best team setup, that should be with Tingyun, Ruan Mei and Sparkle.

    • @HoriZen5
      @HoriZen5 4 місяці тому

      @@LisaraScarletOh okey, thx 🙏 I lost the 50/50 for ruan mei, any viable replacements? Also what are your thoughts on super break compared to this team

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  4 місяці тому

      @@HoriZen5 Could simply be a sustain instead. Tingyun and Sparkle should be more than enough at improving Xueyi's performance.

    • @HoriZen5
      @HoriZen5 4 місяці тому

      @@LisaraScarlet oh okey sounds good, but sorry for having you min-max everything for me, but would huohuo or lynx or bailu be better in your opinion? Also, what are your thoughts on the super break team going around?

    • @LisaraScarlet
      @LisaraScarlet  4 місяці тому +1

      @@HoriZen5 Huohuo is the best within those options. Super Break Xueyi sucks.