Does Scent Matter for Kokanee?
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
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Is it worth scenting and curing your Kokanee bait or corn? Do Kokanee respond to scents? I put that question to the test using identical setups and pin unscented vs scented Corn against each other on the water fishing from my @OldTownCanoeKayak AutoPilot 120.
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Here’s my thing…I have noticed that some days, scent catches as many as unscented and then there are days that scented really outperforms unscented. I have not seen a day where unscented noticeably outperforms my scented gear (or buddy’s unscented gear) so for me, it doesn’t hurt to scent up my tackle - plus it’s fun and makes me feel like I have “the secret” 😅
This one is tough, because it depends on what role scent plays. Does scent only entice them to bite at close range, or does the slick put out draw them in from a distance, after which they predominantly sight attack? If the former, then an experiment with scent on one side and an unscented lure 8 to 10 feet to the other side could be said to yield discernible data, but if the latter then it's difficult to gauge how much the unscented rig is actually benefiting from being next to a scented rig. The answer would seem to be to run the experiment with alternating scented and unscented rigs down, but the problem there is the rigs cannot then be in the same position at the same time in the same conditions. You're removing one variable and adding more.
It would be interesting to see if spreading the lures farther apart negatively impacted the unscented rig. If they were, say, 14 or more feet apart would there be a difference? Would that be indicative of anything at all?
It's a damn good thing you get to eat your guinea pigs, Tyler, or it would be maddening trying to pull trends out of this. ;)
So I just discovered your videos and THANK YOU! I used to fish with Granddad about 45-50 years ago on Priest Lake in the Northern part of Idaho. You could practically hold your hand out and they would jump in it, there were so many. Our daily limits back then were 50 fish! I just recently returned to fishing the lake and know that fishing has completely changed for Kokanee in the NW. I've been trying to use all the old gear (yes, still have it all) and been skunked every day. Thanks to your videos, I see dodgers appear to be much more effective, trolling speeds matter, leader lengths and so on. I am heading back out in the morning, armed with new equipment to make something happen.
I'll try to post back here with some results over the next few days.
Lake Wenatchee is baitless and scentless and there are still a ton of sockeye caught there! Great vid!
Tyler. Do you ever “still fish” w eggs?
No
Would you be up to doing a plain dodger/lure vs a dodger /lure and corn(scented or unscented) comparison video?
Just got back from Bass Pro picking up some Gulp maggots and noticed that Berkley Gulp Alive makes a artificial corn. Is it corn itself or the color they are after in your opinion?
I think the corn's own scent plays a role. I've never tried the fake corn though.
This won’t stop people from thinking they have the one true secret scent haha
My bird dog picked up his head and wagged his tail when the Chuckers were in the back ground!! Nice!!
Hahaha that's awesome.
I just love your comparison videos. All variables can not be accounted for in this one. S turn drop might advantage one or the other etc.
I would also like to see how artificial corn kernels might produce for kokanee? I also hope you stick with the Autopilot kayak for future videos. Thanks the the entertainment.
Its hard to control for everything I agree. I am curious why u prefer Autopilot in the videos? Is it less distracting?
@@spiltmilt The Autopilot simply gets a lot more checks for me on the plus/minus columns. Besides, I'd rather do my exercise at home.
Also always you got my mind juices flowing on planning more trips for Kokes. Nothing better than to hear the wildlife while doing what you love. Those chukars sounded like they wanted your corn as well. 😃
Meant *as not also but Siri loves to mess with me. Smh. Side note, Chelan bighorn clanging heads in the spring another sound I love to hear while fishing.
Very cool. Thanks for sharing
Would you be able to do a video on your humminbird helix on what settings you use for kokanee?
Yes I will.
That would be cool 👌
Great video! I think corn is the best scent. It would be interesting to see if a unscented artificial corn would produce. I bet it would not do well.
I hear NCS is the best scent!
Great videos.I don't always see much of a difference with the scented corn but still like to use it. Also was wondering what your favorite flashers and colors are?
Silver and pink, any combo of moon jelly and pink or orange
As a new lake fisher here on the west side I’m learning a lot from your vids,thank you!
What happens with Kokanee in the Fall? Is that when they spawn?
Thanks again
Depending on the strain of Kokanee and where you are they spawn anywhere from August to September. My local lake usually shuts down with the spawn and you won't catch next years spawners until ice on. This year however, we are catching next years spawners and it is almost October. They are growing exceptionally fast too. They are already at 12 to 12 and a half inches. So, until it gets too nasty of weather to fish, we are going after them. Tight Lines!!!
BTW, I understand at Cordelaine Lake in Idaho they were catching last years spawners in October. With Kokanee, for every rule there seems to be an exception.
I'm on the Westside and I actually target the pre-spawn kokes in the Fall, until the literally are running up the creeks
Great fish for hot smoking and vacumn sealing for later consumption.
The scientist in me asks how you managed to not cross contaminate the baits when loading the hooks. Another great video.
Good question. I brought soap and towel with me on the kayak. I did actually try to control for this.
Spilt Milt Productions I figured you controlled for it. I kinda did the same experiment this weekend but all had salt. Scented won hands down. Mine was poorly conceived from the get go. Keep up the great content.
Its quite possible if I repeated this experiment I might get different results.
I think that you're right that when the fish get finicky things like scent start to matter.
Can you catch kokanee on a paddle kayak. I'd like to know if it's possible because that's all I have. And how should I set it up.
You can. You have to adjust position of the rod holders. Generally I am going to run the rods pointing forward out of the way. The other option is to jig for Kokanee which is more easily done in the spring/early summer when they are schooled up.
What lake are you at?
Great videos. Keep it up! My vote is snake oil. I’ll probably keep scenting my corn because it’s fun. I remember 30 years ago we never scented our shoepeg and caught a lot of Kokanee. Good advice on the salt firming up the corn. 👍
I tried some of the old goats lures last weekend. The bite was great but the catch rate was awful . Did you have trouble with the double hook rigs like I did ? Should I retie my harnesses to the slit shot hooks size 4 or do have a better suggestions. Fish are averaging around 19 inches to 21 inches? Also, do you know of a rubber net replacement other than black , net freaks out koccanees for sure ?
I did retie the hooks and it helped. I know several companies makes clear rubber nets but having used both I don't notice a difference in the Kokanee reactv
How long does it take a you to rig up your kayak once you get to the water? I don't have cameras and probably a lot less stuff but it still takes me forever to get set up, And put everything away when I'm done
With my cameras it takes about 15 minutes
Were did you get your leader plus dropper line rig.
Here is a video with links to all of that in the description. ua-cam.com/video/19xb6BBrFQ0/v-deo.html
What rods are you using in this video? I use your lead dropper method and am still trying to figure out what power rods are best for what weight.
I use this rod from Santiam bit.ly/30xH6r5
@@spiltmilt an ultra light?! Did not expect that with lead droppers! How much weight do you feel you can run on that?
Excellent video as always! Do you fish for kokanee year round? Just recently found your channel and found out about these awesome fish and coincidently one of the best fisheries in my state is only an hour away!
Yes I do. Sometimes I have to drill holes in the ice to do so but I still catch them.
Is that a Chuckar interrupting you at 7:15??
Yeah they are really common up here and often come down drink in the mornings
Ive probably watch all your videos and use most of you techniques an still no luck... Make a trip south to American Lake
Where are you fishing?
@@spiltmilt American Lake... Lakewood, Wa
American Lake has been really challenging the past few years. I'd recommend giving Alder or Cushman a shot.
That kayak looks comfortable af.