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Trent’s bottom level is generational. He changed the game as a full back. Most assists as a defender ever, and most assists as a defender in one season. Even with his last two seasons of being poor defensively , he is a all timer in the prem.
Trent was absolutely world class in those seasons but to be generational you must do it over several years. Someone like a Marcelo, Dani Alves or Phillip Lahn would be a generational fullback. Pythag is right to put emphasis on 21/22. Trent can still be devastatingly effective but there are still weaknesses to his game in the role which he plays.
Literally lmao this agenda abt Trent being a bad defender is just social media hate trend, he’s average at worst but his attacking n playmaking abilities are literally miles above anyone else for the greatest in terms of a fullback
I Love this channel to death. However as a LFC fan who watches all games . Trent has been taking his defensive responsibilities very seriously compared to the previous two seasons. In prior two seasons he always had that odd lack of awareness in a match where a runner was always in at the far post. He may not like rb thats for sure but he definitely is working hard defensively and putting in a shift this season. Probably has to do with him being vice captain now. Also looks motivated to have a stellar campaign .
Good analysis but the metrics are a bit inconsistent, not sure against who and which position TAA is being compared with. Its like the analysis wants TAA to become, KDB + Juninho + Roberto Carlos + Bellingham and carry the team alone. Lack benchmark.
Trent is a player that is micro-analyzed given how unique he is. As of now, he’s achieved everything at RB, being the main creative fulcrum out wide. I have doubts of him playing in midfield and I think it could if the midfield setup plays to his strengths. He’s not a controller like Alonso or dictate play like Modric so playing him high up could make sense. He’s too good to not be utilized and his evolution as a player is intriguing and exciting
It is tricky - one thing I've noticed since his role change is that, due to his reading of the game and being more central, he's more often intercepting passes and turning them immediately into attacks. I think he has the ability to operate deeper and control but the main thing he needs to improve is his decision making. When he gets the balance right between the Hollywood balls and the sensible passes to circulate it's immense. Thanks for the video!
I blame Waz our Liverpool fan. He always pronounces it like that and I ended up paying homage to him. Think the pronunciation in our official video on him was the right one 😂😂
He's too good to not play, Klopp and Southgate need to push him higher up the pitch so he'll have less defensive responsibilites and much more playmaking from him, he's the only real competition to KBD if he gets the hang of being an all out attacking midfielder, i want him to side with Szoboszlai in that attacking mid role while Endo and Maybe Gravenberch to sit deeper and cover for both Trent and Szobo although Szoboszlai is more reliant on that defensive workrate.
"He's too good to not play, Klopp and Southgate need to push him higher up the pitch so he'll have less defensive responsibilites and much more playmaking from him, he's the only real competition to KBD if he gets the hang of being an all out attacking midfielder" Totally agree with that part. Except that Phil Foden is also the real deal, and if Trent, Foden and Harvey Elliott were played together the diversity and creativity would be unstoppable. Extraordinarily though, Southgate has never played Foden and Trent on the same pitch. And inexplicably virtually never plays Trent at all. The England setup (and the Premier League for anglo-saxon players) is so messed up that there's plenty to suggest, but no hope of it happening, as far as I can see. The mass media is obsessed with Jude Bellingham, and however badly he plays for England, that's how they will set up. Everyone else is now just an afterthought.
rather than comparing Trent to KDB, what about Pirlo, he played relatively deep but also had great DMs (e.g. Vidal) or defensive minded CMs (Seedorf & Gattuso) around him in his prime
I really enjoyed this video cause it answers questions about an established player that people argue about. We need to see more of these for players like martinelli, Jota, Rodrygo etc... keep up the good work
Great video! Trent is one of the best passers in the prem! Btw the fact you said that Trent’s defending would be above average for a midfielder makes sense since he did play RM in the academy
@@nhantruong5720toni kroos barely plays these days. Hes a legend ofc, but if we talk about It CURRENTLY trents better. Overall kroos is a legend and is underrated
@@sushipizza4439 Trent is the best long passer in PL no doubt. Kroos already starts 13 games this season only 2 less than Trent. Cant really says he barely plays. Perhaps PL is more competitive hence Trent number is a bit lower. But overall, Kroos is more composed on the ball. Trent does take unnecessary risk at times.
I think his best position would be RCM in a diamond as he then has license to drop deep to play long passes or push up into the half space to cross/create or even more opportunities to overlap Salah. I also think Szoboszlai and Mac A would be better in a diamond midfield.
Sorry but this is where the rating system completely falls apart. How do you rate Trent on par with Mudryk after he played about a dozen games in the Ukrainian League. Trent has already been part of the best defence in Europe twice, had a POTY level season in 19/20, was an absolute game changer in a CL winning campaign and had 21 goal contributions in 21/22. A run of the mill winger like Mudryk will do well to accomplish any one of these things over his entire career.
We don’t do current ratings. It’s based on how the ratings may end up when their careers are all done with. So someone like Mudryk whose at the start of his career is clearly not going to have the same current rating as a Trent who is a lot more established as a footballer. Also Predictions are predictions they’re not gospel.
@@PythagorasinBoots Thought the 76 represented his current rating, which is the same as in the Mudryk video. But if it isnt i still disagree with the premise that someone who has delivered some of the best individual stats of anyone in their position and been a lynchpin of a highly dominant side can have a relatively low max potential. He was arguably the best player in the PL towards the end of last season.
@martinszabo5578 just because a player is better now doesn’t mean they have the higher potential. That doesn’t mean you are wrong about these two players in particular but as a general principle that would be flawed. Let us not forget someone like Bale in his early part of career would have been laughed at for being given a good predicted and max potential rating.
There's about 2 years between mudryk Ones achieved nothing, other everything. I think the clear fact one relies on physicals ie (pace) vs technique shows you can't can't compare the two. Mudryk hasn't hit even the " top winger in league" level at 22 ( 23 next couple week) and barely shown he ever will, if trent retire now ( just turned 25) and mudryk (about to turn 23) retired at 25. Do you think anyone will ever talk about mudryk again? I know players develop at different rates, but he's never going to be "that guy"
This is got to be the best player focused football analytics channel out there. I agree that TAA is not a secure controller of the ball like the world class greats like Pirlo and Busquets, hence he can't play in midfield full time. I rather he play his current position as IRB, where if he loses possession it wont be as costly as losing it right in front of the centre halves and yet he can come inside when attention on him is less. Being out on the wide also allows him the full view of the pitch, so he can make his raking passes and pick his time to go forward, be it out on the wing or through the middle.
I feel like he would be fantastic as a pure RM in a 4-4-2, in this sort of system he would be able to drop deep, contribute defensively without being fully relied upon, get forward in wide areas where he is very dangerous with his crossing and creativity, and really take advantage of his long passing finding the likes of Mo Salah and Nunez up top.
Great video as always. Do you think thats why Liverpool are playing Macca in the 6 i.e. more intelligent, nimble, press resistant? Maybe why we are heavily linked with Andre also? I get the suggestion of having him further up the pitch but those long balls from deep are a huge threat and can push teams back? Especially with the pace of Nunez, Salah and even Diaz in behind. When teams are pushed back there is less opponents pressing high- then Trent enters the free role to try break them down. I still view him as RB when building up under pressure/ when we are defending.
With Liverpools massive surge you should do a video on either Elliott, Quansah or Konate I feel like these are 3 of the biggest young players shining this season especially Konate whom is starting to show signs of a real hardened CB. Quansah is extremely mature for his age and Elliott looks extremely sharp
Your SWOT analysis of Trent is spot on. I think he's a RM in a 4-4-2 or inside RM in a 3-5-2, however these systems are out of favor. Ironically Luis Diaz is also a 4-4-2 LM and the duo remind me of Beckham and Giggs from the late 90s. But it's all about the system, Beckham wouldn't even start in Klopp's gegenpressing 4-3-3 where midfielders sacrifice everything for the front 3. More than that, Liverpool have so many midfielders that Trent's inability to consistently carry the ball, dribble, and defend is a problem. He can only be the 5th build up player in a 3-2-5 set up against low blocks. Unless a coach switches to a 4-4-2 or a 3-5-2, I sadly can't see him improving.
@@PythagorasinBoots I hope so, let's say with Bradley plays behind Trent who would pull inside. These systems fell out of favor because, allegedly, more triangles, off the ball movement, and predictability is possible through the middle. At times this year, even when Liverpool were playing well, I felt that Szoboszlai, Trent, and Salah occupied the same space a little too much. Which brings me to the next question. Salah's shot power has declined and I don't see it improving. What do you think about Matias Soulé and Loïs Openda? The latter seems like a stockier and less fragile Jota.
Super stuff, agree with your conclusions. Corollary of this is that he is being mismanaged by Klopp (and knows it and is frustrated). Liverpool need a new right back to balance a superb Trent-Salah right side.
I still don't like the idea of moving him to midfield, at least without having someone to hold his hand and control the game. He is a luxury player, in the same way Messi was, in the essence that his offensive value is great but defensively he is a negative. The difference with Messi and Trent(2018-2021) was that the team around them was so great that they did not necessarily need to do all that much defensively but as soon as the level drop, their value became less and less, him being in the Premier League is not helping because the talent disparity in this league is not big. Also Klopp's loyalty has also been a blessing for him because a cutthroat personality would have caused him to lose all confidence. If Liverpool are bent on keeping him then a lot needs to change in how they play between now and next season because wherever he plays on the pitch it will be the same story of being amazed at the vast difference between him going forward and him defending. Great video as always.
Under Slot's patient & systematic build up play from the back Trent will be perfect as the inverted full back taking on the Geertruida role. Trent said in a interview that he finds Brighton's style of play where they carefully & deliberately build up from the back exciting to watch but difficult to play against. That's pretty much how Slot got his Feyenoord side to start attacks, with Trent coming into midfield from full back given him extra time on the ball without a presser getting straight to him will suit him better than just being integrated into midfield. If we can sign a DM who's also comfortable in possession like a Zubimendi or Varela to play alongside MacAllister who I'd presume would take up the Timber box to box role, the control we would have between the defence & midfield in the build up phase would be water tight. Trent will be a huge player under Slot & l think Slot will take Trent's game even further
i think Trent suits playing better as a rb than in a double pivot, and so far trent has been decent at RB under Slot, the idea of him being an attacking midfielder as suggested by the video creator is interesting though and in Slot's team he'll never get to to play in that kind of role in a 433, very intrigued to see what Trent will do with his contract situation, i love him a liverpool and he's been really good at right back under Slot, but realistically does he want to play in that position all his life? You have to also think what team would take trent and allow him to play as an attacking midfielder in a 433, because real madrid currently play 4231 and if they get alonso theyll play 343 and neither suits trent, trent for me as a player i really love and i want him to reach goat levels, it would be great to see him in an attacking midfield role as a 433, and i am a liverpool fan .... i thought at the euros we should play trent and bellingham as LCM and RCM together, bellingham played as a LCM at birmingham, maybe that could happen at madrid... that kind of 433 suits valverde and camavinga... i'm not a madrid fan, but i love trent a lot, 433 at liveprool would work with szoboszlai or gravenberch on the other side, mac a wouldn't suit it, but not sure if that will happen.. got to focus on the now and enjoy that
50% dribbling success rate but somehow all the clips show 95% fail. That's a major theme in this Video. Same goes for the comparison to ZInchenko in inversion...only showed fails for him but ZInchenko fails too. This type of analysis only continues to fuel terrible narratives!
Wow this channel is a revelation. And the last Euros where Trent was used as a midfielder proves that he will need to ease into such a role. TAA is a real madrid level player. One of the GOAT Right backs
When you've won it all and was the best rb in the world for like a 3 year period, redefined the role of a modern fullback and still has more than half his career to go bottom level is generational at a minimum.
He was not the best RB itw for a 3 year period. Maybe a year, Kyle Walker adopted and superseded and Reece as well. Kimmich stepped out of RB at the same time.
If he continues this trend, then he will be a very creative RM. Trent is either a tactical liability or a ceiling-raising talent for an attacking-centric juggernaut. Only by his initiative will any of this change.
If he improves his ball retention more n masters it more, as well as being able to receive the ball with his back on the defender while in the midfield receiving passes Frm our centre backs, as well as his composure, he can be one of if not the best cdm in the game very soon
He’s shown that his interceptions and aggressive tackles has improved a lot more with his recent positional shift so I’m not worried abt him improving on that asw
World class analysis. Agree with every single point you made. Well done mate!!👏 Only thing id say is in the RAM role his long passing range and vision which is arguably his best asset will be minimised. Your spot on about Trent not moving enough for the regista role. His success there will be heavily dependent on a world class 6 alongside him! Also agree regarding being a tactical dilemma.. Jürgen klopp is a huge factor is Trents success and it would be interesting to see how he'd fair under a different manager once hes gone. Also a very interesting point regarding his current ego level. I feel trents physicality and conditioning is fine. It's more about the mental side and application which you also touched upon. Keep them coming 👍👍
Why have you stopped normal and constant player analysis vids, some suggestions(johan bakayoko, Ousmane diomande, joao neves, zubimendi, miguel gutierrez, savio, wirtz etc)
They need to put him as the CDM and put Joe in the right back role. His recognition of play development is very good and he’s very good at interceptions. Plus, if he’s given space….he’s lethal.
I appreciate the level of work that goes into these so dont really want to take a dump on them but Trent is already generational. You dont jump in and out of that category, you either are or arent and he has been for several years. I do agree that i dont think right back is going to be his position for much longer. If you analyse how Liverpool are progressing this season theres more and more emphasis on getting Trent into midfield. Analysing if hes press resistant enough is difficult because his exposure to central areas has been limited because he's spent his primary development phase playing fullback - despite him being a primarily a midfielder from u18/u21 backwards. He needs to learn how to receive on the half turn under pressure - the pressure being the key point there. He's shown he can do that in an area where you only need to beat one winger but he's working on it now in a congested area of the pitch. But from a supporters perspective who's watched us this season it's something that is noticeable improving game on game. I understand the sentiment that he might be better as an 8 but the recruitment of Szoboszlai effectively has removed that idea. Hes good there as a break glass option but i think its easily conceavable that he adapts to becoming a number 6. And that position is as much about experience as it is talent. Like i can tell you now that Trent is every bit as good as Xabi Alonso was at the same age currently, with the benfit of him being a better athlete. Xabi only really started showing real consistency in the role from 27 onwards. Its a work in progress but I've no doubt that he could quite easily continue to be a generational talent as a 6, either as a lone 6 or in a double pivot.
Trent was exposed last season because Henderson & Fabinho were dog shit in midfield. He seems revitalised because our current midfield have energy & legs unlike last season.. same with Virgil, was made to look like shit because our midfield just didn't have the legs to get up n down the pitch quick enough
73-74 in my opinion. I find his attacking game rather overstated and his defensive game to be extremely abhorrent. His consistency, toughness and mentality are peak however. He's also a set piece ace. Wish you could have included Reece James in the statistical comparisons because that seems to be his #1 rival. Although Trent wins a lot more, and is much more healthy and it seems like Reece's career won't last much longer. Trent = Beckham 2.0.
Yes I do. He's a luxury type midfielder who in a side with a stronger midfield could be the icing on the cake type of midfielder like Pogba was at Juve. Only issue is whether he would be compatible with Jude.
To tell you the truth Trend is the men in the football pitch he is just an extra men we have got who can make all the impossible in football to happen and that's for sure
Your analysis is always "will x be GOAT in his position", or "why x is not GOAT in his position". Is that the point of football? Not how players function within systems and teams? Why on earth would Trent need to "improve his long passing" if what he does is sufficient for what his coach wants? Is whatever limitation you see in his long passing purely a result of his skills, and not perhaps a function of team play? In your analysis you seem to expect players to become rounded to be the best, but coaches rarely push for an elite but even distribution of skills within individual players, rather they try to find balance within the function of the team, if at all.
Not every rating we will get right. So even if we get X wrong that doesn’t mean we think X is better than Y. Every video we do we are trying to improve the metrics upon which we use to get the next rating more accurate. Not an exact science at the moment. As for Hojlund I do think he’s been written off way too quickly. First season at a big club which is very dysfunctional and coming off a severe back issue and don’t think he’s fully recovered.
Trent is incredibly suited to that CDM, his long balls are the best I've seen, if he can play the same along the floor then he'll be better than KDB.. he's 25... the assists he gets is ridiculous... And to same trippier is better than trent at crosses is silly... look at the assists
I Think trend is doing what no body ever did before and with the encouragement from his manager so it's only now that every one can see what is the picture of his football ⚽️ I am sure everyone that played football never did what trend does most specially if he got a chance to score, everyone can only see after the goal have gone in that's when everyone realizes oh it was Trend
As someone who sees every Liverpool game, the big problem - as you touch upon - is his ego/lack of application. He lately has this smug aura about him that I believe negatively impacts the team(and in turn his own performances). It's very annoying, because it feels like it's holding him back from being world class - like he was during our great days.
Should be the first name on the England team sheet...unfortunately, we have a wet wipe called southgate as a manager ... seems he doesn't like flair ,raw talent and someone able to take the odd risk etc...He likes diluted players ,yes men...like kane..
@@PythagorasinBootswhat if the injury were to miraculously disappear?? I Don't think James be anywhere close to his potential, 21 yo old James is proly the best we'll ever get.
Worst video you've made bro, made Trent sound so average. I don't need your analysis to know how good he is or what his ceiling is, dude's a legend in the making and one of the best passers you'll ever see. You compared him to Pogba ffs🙃
You're comparing him to creative midfielders at one point then fallbacks on the next. These stats will look much more favorable if you only compare him to natural position(fallback) counterparts.
The reason we are doing that is to compare to both midfielders and full backs to see where his best position could be. We chose a blend of full backs and midfielders for each state - we didn’t just do one stat for full backs or mids
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Very good video! Could do you victor boniface next?
Could you do viktor Gykores next?
Trent’s bottom level is generational. He changed the game as a full back. Most assists as a defender ever, and most assists as a defender in one season. Even with his last two seasons of being poor defensively , he is a all timer in the prem.
Trent was absolutely world class in those seasons but to be generational you must do it over several years. Someone like a Marcelo, Dani Alves or Phillip Lahn would be a generational fullback. Pythag is right to put emphasis on 21/22. Trent can still be devastatingly effective but there are still weaknesses to his game in the role which he plays.
@@FortunaatpHe has been doing it for 6 years 😂
your acting like dani alves wasnt suspect defensively at time? Mate go watch football@@Fortunaatp
@@Fortunaatpmarcelo was worse at defending than Trent lmao
Literally lmao this agenda abt Trent being a bad defender is just social media hate trend, he’s average at worst but his attacking n playmaking abilities are literally miles above anyone else for the greatest in terms of a fullback
I Love this channel to death. However as a LFC fan who watches all games . Trent has been taking his defensive responsibilities very seriously compared to the previous two seasons. In prior two seasons he always had that odd lack of awareness in a match where a runner was always in at the far post. He may not like rb thats for sure but he definitely is working hard defensively and putting in a shift this season. Probably has to do with him being vice captain now. Also looks motivated to have a stellar campaign .
The whole team is much younger, athletic & defensively solid this season which covers his defensive shortcomings.
Good analysis but the metrics are a bit inconsistent, not sure against who and which position TAA is being compared with. Its like the analysis wants TAA to become, KDB + Juninho + Roberto Carlos + Bellingham and carry the team alone. Lack benchmark.
He’s already cemented himself as generational
Mate what? This is delusional.
@@nananou1687me being the top comment in the entire comment section would suggest you’re the delusional one 👍
He’s literally a useless rb defensively 😂 until he proves in midfield, he’s not a generational rb
@@juanarellano3580you mean when he was pivotal to Liverpool winning all trophies on offer?
@@juanarellano3580go see stats
Trent is a player that is micro-analyzed given how unique he is. As of now, he’s achieved everything at RB, being the main creative fulcrum out wide. I have doubts of him playing in midfield and I think it could if the midfield setup plays to his strengths. He’s not a controller like Alonso or dictate play like Modric so playing him high up could make sense. He’s too good to not be utilized and his evolution as a player is intriguing and exciting
It is tricky - one thing I've noticed since his role change is that, due to his reading of the game and being more central, he's more often intercepting passes and turning them immediately into attacks. I think he has the ability to operate deeper and control but the main thing he needs to improve is his decision making. When he gets the balance right between the Hollywood balls and the sensible passes to circulate it's immense. Thanks for the video!
Spozoblai is crazy
What?
Its šobošlay
I blame Waz our Liverpool fan. He always pronounces it like that and I ended up paying homage to him. Think the pronunciation in our official video on him was the right one 😂😂
@@NDakovic no, it's szobospongebob
*Szoboszlai
He's too good to not play, Klopp and Southgate need to push him higher up the pitch so he'll have less defensive responsibilites and much more playmaking from him, he's the only real competition to KBD if he gets the hang of being an all out attacking midfielder, i want him to side with Szoboszlai in that attacking mid role while Endo and Maybe Gravenberch to sit deeper and cover for both Trent and Szobo although Szoboszlai is more reliant on that defensive workrate.
"He's too good to not play, Klopp and Southgate need to push him higher up the pitch so he'll have less defensive responsibilites and much more playmaking from him, he's the only real competition to KBD if he gets the hang of being an all out attacking midfielder" Totally agree with that part. Except that Phil Foden is also the real deal, and if Trent, Foden and Harvey Elliott were played together the diversity and creativity would be unstoppable. Extraordinarily though, Southgate has never played Foden and Trent on the same pitch. And inexplicably virtually never plays Trent at all. The England setup (and the Premier League for anglo-saxon players) is so messed up that there's plenty to suggest, but no hope of it happening, as far as I can see. The mass media is obsessed with Jude Bellingham, and however badly he plays for England, that's how they will set up. Everyone else is now just an afterthought.
Goal Scorer Trent Nowadays 😭😭
rather than comparing Trent to KDB, what about Pirlo, he played relatively deep but also had great DMs (e.g. Vidal) or defensive minded CMs (Seedorf & Gattuso) around him in his prime
Seedorf,defensive minded?
@@Holiidayyyyy I guess he was more of a box to box but he was excellent at providing cover
I really enjoyed this video cause it answers questions about an established player that people argue about. We need to see more of these for players like martinelli, Jota, Rodrygo etc... keep up the good work
Great video! Trent is one of the best passers in the prem! Btw the fact you said that Trent’s defending would be above average for a midfielder makes sense since he did play RM in the academy
Yep, that makes sense!
Youre videos are insane bro!! Crazy how good your Onana analysis was.
To me TAA is a legend him and Salah are lucky to have each other and we are lucky for having them as well
An iconic partnership for sure in terms of full back/winger pairings.
Trent is a maverick. A match winner. I think he can be a GOAT. I honestly think that.
The spirit of Gerrard live on!
BEST LONG PASSER IN THE GAME🚨💯❣️
Any range bro. ANY RANGE. Trent got any club in world football in his back pocket yo.
Trent is good but Toni Kroos is the best.
@@nhantruong5720toni kroos barely plays these days. Hes a legend ofc, but if we talk about
It CURRENTLY trents better. Overall kroos is a legend and is underrated
@@sushipizza4439 Trent is the best long passer in PL no doubt. Kroos already starts 13 games this season only 2 less than Trent. Cant really says he barely plays. Perhaps PL is more competitive hence Trent number is a bit lower. But overall, Kroos is more composed on the ball. Trent does take unnecessary risk at times.
@@nhantruong5720 kroos is not the same player. His best days are behind him. Trent is entering his prime
I think his best position would be RCM in a diamond as he then has license to drop deep to play long passes or push up into the half space to cross/create or even more opportunities to overlap Salah. I also think Szoboszlai and Mac A would be better in a diamond midfield.
I’m holding my breath till you upload a legend analysis, great video though lol
Sorry but this is where the rating system completely falls apart. How do you rate Trent on par with Mudryk after he played about a dozen games in the Ukrainian League. Trent has already been part of the best defence in Europe twice, had a POTY level season in 19/20, was an absolute game changer in a CL winning campaign and had 21 goal contributions in 21/22. A run of the mill winger like Mudryk will do well to accomplish any one of these things over his entire career.
We don’t do current ratings. It’s based on how the ratings may end up when their careers are all done with. So someone like Mudryk whose at the start of his career is clearly not going to have the same current rating as a Trent who is a lot more established as a footballer. Also Predictions are predictions they’re not gospel.
@@PythagorasinBoots Thought the 76 represented his current rating, which is the same as in the Mudryk video. But if it isnt i still disagree with the premise that someone who has delivered some of the best individual stats of anyone in their position and been a lynchpin of a highly dominant side can have a relatively low max potential. He was arguably the best player in the PL towards the end of last season.
@martinszabo5578 just because a player is better now doesn’t mean they have the higher potential. That doesn’t mean you are wrong about these two players in particular but as a general principle that would be flawed. Let us not forget someone like Bale in his early part of career would have been laughed at for being given a good predicted and max potential rating.
There's about 2 years between mudryk
Ones achieved nothing, other everything. I think the clear fact one relies on physicals ie (pace) vs technique shows you can't can't compare the two.
Mudryk hasn't hit even the " top winger in league" level at 22 ( 23 next couple week) and barely shown he ever will, if trent retire now ( just turned 25) and mudryk (about to turn 23) retired at 25. Do you think anyone will ever talk about mudryk again?
I know players develop at different rates, but he's never going to be "that guy"
This is got to be the best player focused football analytics channel out there. I agree that TAA is not a secure controller of the ball like the world class greats like Pirlo and Busquets, hence he can't play in midfield full time. I rather he play his current position as IRB, where if he loses possession it wont be as costly as losing it right in front of the centre halves and yet he can come inside when attention on him is less. Being out on the wide also allows him the full view of the pitch, so he can make his raking passes and pick his time to go forward, be it out on the wing or through the middle.
I feel like he would be fantastic as a pure RM in a 4-4-2, in this sort of system he would be able to drop deep, contribute defensively without being fully relied upon, get forward in wide areas where he is very dangerous with his crossing and creativity, and really take advantage of his long passing finding the likes of Mo Salah and Nunez up top.
literally a modern day david beckham, maybe without the looks tho
YES. He's the modern day Beckham.
@@wildeyshere_paulkersey853 Beckham was never world class, Elite but not world class. he was a world class set-piece man though a la James Ward-Prowse
@@SanFranFan30You don't finish runner up in the ballon d'or race if you're not world class.
Generational talent,
Great video as always. Do you think thats why Liverpool are playing Macca in the 6 i.e. more intelligent, nimble, press resistant? Maybe why we are heavily linked with Andre also?
I get the suggestion of having him further up the pitch but those long balls from deep are a huge threat and can push teams back? Especially with the pace of Nunez, Salah and even Diaz in behind. When teams are pushed back there is less opponents pressing high- then Trent enters the free role to try break them down. I still view him as RB when building up under pressure/ when we are defending.
Macca is Steve McManaman. Wonderful and underrated player, but that was 25-30 years ago. Think you mean someone else.
With Liverpools massive surge you should do a video on either Elliott, Quansah or Konate I feel like these are 3 of the biggest young players shining this season especially Konate whom is starting to show signs of a real hardened CB. Quansah is extremely mature for his age and Elliott looks extremely sharp
He's just a surreal player making passes if weren't on TV no one would've believed!
Great video as always. Would love to see a video on destiny udogie, he is only 21 and already one of the top lb in the pl
Your SWOT analysis of Trent is spot on. I think he's a RM in a 4-4-2 or inside RM in a 3-5-2, however these systems are out of favor. Ironically Luis Diaz is also a 4-4-2 LM and the duo remind me of Beckham and Giggs from the late 90s.
But it's all about the system, Beckham wouldn't even start in Klopp's gegenpressing 4-3-3 where midfielders sacrifice everything for the front 3. More than that, Liverpool have so many midfielders that Trent's inability to consistently carry the ball, dribble, and defend is a problem. He can only be the 5th build up player in a 3-2-5 set up against low blocks.
Unless a coach switches to a 4-4-2 or a 3-5-2, I sadly can't see him improving.
Can these shapes be manufactured in possession and not as an overall shape?
@@PythagorasinBoots I hope so, let's say with Bradley plays behind Trent who would pull inside. These systems fell out of favor because, allegedly, more triangles, off the ball movement, and predictability is possible through the middle.
At times this year, even when Liverpool were playing well, I felt that Szoboszlai, Trent, and Salah occupied the same space a little too much.
Which brings me to the next question. Salah's shot power has declined and I don't see it improving. What do you think about Matias Soulé and Loïs Openda? The latter seems like a stockier and less fragile Jota.
Super stuff, agree with your conclusions. Corollary of this is that he is being mismanaged by Klopp (and knows it and is frustrated). Liverpool need a new right back to balance a superb Trent-Salah right side.
Trent is world class... absolutely amazing
Can't Wait 🔥
Spozoblai, dude 😂
Top notch analysis regardless.
Awesome stuff.
Glad you enjoyed! 😂
I still don't like the idea of moving him to midfield, at least without having someone to hold his hand and control the game. He is a luxury player, in the same way Messi was, in the essence that his offensive value is great but defensively he is a negative. The difference with Messi and Trent(2018-2021) was that the team around them was so great that they did not necessarily need to do all that much defensively but as soon as the level drop, their value became less and less, him being in the Premier League is not helping because the talent disparity in this league is not big. Also Klopp's loyalty has also been a blessing for him because a cutthroat personality would have caused him to lose all confidence.
If Liverpool are bent on keeping him then a lot needs to change in how they play between now and next season because wherever he plays on the pitch it will be the same story of being amazed at the vast difference between him going forward and him defending.
Great video as always.
Under Slot's patient & systematic build up play from the back Trent will be perfect as the inverted full back taking on the Geertruida role. Trent said in a interview that he finds Brighton's style of play where they carefully & deliberately build up from the back exciting to watch but difficult to play against. That's pretty much how Slot got his Feyenoord side to start attacks, with Trent coming into midfield from full back given him extra time on the ball without a presser getting straight to him will suit him better than just being integrated into midfield. If we can sign a DM who's also comfortable in possession like a Zubimendi or Varela to play alongside MacAllister who I'd presume would take up the Timber box to box role, the control we would have between the defence & midfield in the build up phase would be water tight. Trent will be a huge player under Slot & l think Slot will take Trent's game even further
i think Trent suits playing better as a rb than in a double pivot, and so far trent has been decent at RB under Slot, the idea of him being an attacking midfielder as suggested by the video creator is interesting though and in Slot's team he'll never get to to play in that kind of role in a 433, very intrigued to see what Trent will do with his contract situation, i love him a liverpool and he's been really good at right back under Slot, but realistically does he want to play in that position all his life? You have to also think what team would take trent and allow him to play as an attacking midfielder in a 433, because real madrid currently play 4231 and if they get alonso theyll play 343 and neither suits trent, trent for me as a player i really love and i want him to reach goat levels, it would be great to see him in an attacking midfield role as a 433, and i am a liverpool fan .... i thought at the euros we should play trent and bellingham as LCM and RCM together, bellingham played as a LCM at birmingham, maybe that could happen at madrid... that kind of 433 suits valverde and camavinga... i'm not a madrid fan, but i love trent a lot, 433 at liveprool would work with szoboszlai or gravenberch on the other side, mac a wouldn't suit it, but not sure if that will happen.. got to focus on the now and enjoy that
Can you make a analysis of Mohammed Simikan I think he is next big money CB
50% dribbling success rate but somehow all the clips show 95% fail. That's a major theme in this Video. Same goes for the comparison to ZInchenko in inversion...only showed fails for him but ZInchenko fails too. This type of analysis only continues to fuel terrible narratives!
excellent analysis as always m8
Great video! What’s your thoughts on David Alaba? I think he has been underrated & isn’t in enough conversations imo
Not as good as trent, better defender maybe but every other position l, same with Robertson
Wow this channel is a revelation. And the last Euros where Trent was used as a midfielder proves that he will need to ease into such a role. TAA is a real madrid level player. One of the GOAT Right backs
TAA is a Liverpool level player.
@ um.. he WAS and now he's up to Madrid's standards
@@TheDYNAMITE001 Madrid that nearly was beaten?😀😀
Do a video on gundogan
I'm an Arsenal fan and Trent is my favourite non-Arsenal player in the PL..may you pleeeeease make an Odegaard player analysis
has there ever been anyone you reviewed as generational
Analysis is good, conclusion is poor. Liverpool are utilising him very differently.
Give us indepth analysis on some coaches for LIverpool.
Amorim, Unai, Velvede, Nagelsman or any
When you've won it all and was the best rb in the world for like a 3 year period, redefined the role of a modern fullback and still has more than half his career to go bottom level is generational at a minimum.
He was not the best RB itw for a 3 year period. Maybe a year, Kyle Walker adopted and superseded and Reece as well. Kimmich stepped out of RB at the same time.
And redefined the role? Mate, there have been players playing inside FBS for years now. Come on
So basically, LFC has Beckham but in deeper position role.
your yardstick for comparison are unconvincing
If he continues this trend, then he will be a very creative RM. Trent is either a tactical liability or a ceiling-raising talent for an attacking-centric juggernaut. Only by his initiative will any of this change.
Agreed
If he improves his ball retention more n masters it more, as well as being able to receive the ball with his back on the defender while in the midfield receiving passes Frm our centre backs, as well as his composure, he can be one of if not the best cdm in the game very soon
He’s shown that his interceptions and aggressive tackles has improved a lot more with his recent positional shift so I’m not worried abt him improving on that asw
World class analysis. Agree with every single point you made. Well done mate!!👏
Only thing id say is in the RAM role his long passing range and vision which is arguably his best asset will be minimised.
Your spot on about Trent not moving enough for the regista role. His success there will be heavily dependent on a world class 6 alongside him!
Also agree regarding being a tactical dilemma.. Jürgen klopp is a huge factor is Trents success and it would be interesting to see how he'd fair under a different manager once hes gone.
Also a very interesting point regarding his current ego level. I feel trents physicality and conditioning is fine. It's more about the mental side and application which you also touched upon.
Keep them coming 👍👍
It'll be interesting to see what Klopp does with Trent and Szoboslai when Mo is at the African Cup of Nations.
You should watch the Tifo video on Trent.
Can you do a video of how good pedro porro is
Why have you stopped normal and constant player analysis vids, some suggestions(johan bakayoko, Ousmane diomande, joao neves, zubimendi, miguel gutierrez, savio, wirtz etc)
Hey bro can you make Brayen Zaragoza the new Bayern signign?
Very good analysis this. Fantastic long passer but not top class as a controlling midfielder. Will be interesting to see how his career plays out
They need to put him as the CDM and put Joe in the right back role. His recognition of play development is very good and he’s very good at interceptions. Plus, if he’s given space….he’s lethal.
he’s clearly actually a Right Attacking Central Intercontinental Super Missile (RACISM)
😂
great video ! could you do one one pape matar sarr ?
I'll add to the list.
I appreciate the level of work that goes into these so dont really want to take a dump on them but Trent is already generational. You dont jump in and out of that category, you either are or arent and he has been for several years. I do agree that i dont think right back is going to be his position for much longer. If you analyse how Liverpool are progressing this season theres more and more emphasis on getting Trent into midfield. Analysing if hes press resistant enough is difficult because his exposure to central areas has been limited because he's spent his primary development phase playing fullback - despite him being a primarily a midfielder from u18/u21 backwards. He needs to learn how to receive on the half turn under pressure - the pressure being the key point there. He's shown he can do that in an area where you only need to beat one winger but he's working on it now in a congested area of the pitch. But from a supporters perspective who's watched us this season it's something that is noticeable improving game on game.
I understand the sentiment that he might be better as an 8 but the recruitment of Szoboszlai effectively has removed that idea. Hes good there as a break glass option but i think its easily conceavable that he adapts to becoming a number 6. And that position is as much about experience as it is talent. Like i can tell you now that Trent is every bit as good as Xabi Alonso was at the same age currently, with the benfit of him being a better athlete. Xabi only really started showing real consistency in the role from 27 onwards.
Its a work in progress but I've no doubt that he could quite easily continue to be a generational talent as a 6, either as a lone 6 or in a double pivot.
love your videos 💟
Recently he’s been perfect in a double pivot with endo
That's why big fan of him
Can you make a vdo about Liverpool tactic evolution over the years under Klopp. Thank you.
I'll look into it.
seems like he would do well in role similar to pedro porto at spurs currently
I’ve always thought he was similar to Beckham, England can go back to roots and play a 442 with him as a RM and he would cook.
Trent was exposed last season because Henderson & Fabinho were dog shit in midfield. He seems revitalised because our current midfield have energy & legs unlike last season.. same with Virgil, was made to look like shit because our midfield just didn't have the legs to get up n down the pitch quick enough
CRACKING player! Absolutely world clASS
Do Reece James next
73-74 in my opinion. I find his attacking game rather overstated and his defensive game to be extremely abhorrent. His consistency, toughness and mentality are peak however. He's also a set piece ace.
Wish you could have included Reece James in the statistical comparisons because that seems to be his #1 rival. Although Trent wins a lot more, and is much more healthy and it seems like Reece's career won't last much longer.
Trent = Beckham 2.0.
Do you think trent would be better suited for a club like real madrid with their players??
Yes I do. He's a luxury type midfielder who in a side with a stronger midfield could be the icing on the cake type of midfielder like Pogba was at Juve. Only issue is whether he would be compatible with Jude.
@@PythagorasinBoots jude isn't apposed to doing the dirty work but it would stop him from reaching his full potential going forward. I see your point.
It's been a full year, and we are looking at this coming to fruition. Thank you for great videos mate.
Can you analyse Josip Iličić?
To tell you the truth Trend is the men in the football pitch he is just an extra men we have got who can make all the impossible in football to happen and that's for sure
Agreed.
Can you make mainoo?
Gr8 Analysis but the conclusion was depressing as hell
can you do a garnacho or kobbie mainoo vid please
Bro added Gordon to the England lineup like we wouldn’t see that
Says you, you think Salah had a good season tf
Trent😍😍😍YNWA❤
Your analysis is always "will x be GOAT in his position", or "why x is not GOAT in his position". Is that the point of football? Not how players function within systems and teams? Why on earth would Trent need to "improve his long passing" if what he does is sufficient for what his coach wants? Is whatever limitation you see in his long passing purely a result of his skills, and not perhaps a function of team play?
In your analysis you seem to expect players to become rounded to be the best, but coaches rarely push for an elite but even distribution of skills within individual players, rather they try to find balance within the function of the team, if at all.
Can’t wait for his development towards midfield
How can Rasmus Hojlund have a higher rating?
Not every rating we will get right. So even if we get X wrong that doesn’t mean we think X is better than Y. Every video we do we are trying to improve the metrics upon which we use to get the next rating more accurate. Not an exact science at the moment.
As for Hojlund I do think he’s been written off way too quickly. First season at a big club which is very dysfunctional and coming off a severe back issue and don’t think he’s fully recovered.
Hojlund is pretty good. Also, the ratings are position dependent as well. Trent in rated in his own role
If only Trent is as composed as Kenny Daglish, he will score lots of goals and create lots of assists!
Trent is incredibly suited to that CDM, his long balls are the best I've seen, if he can play the same along the floor then he'll be better than KDB.. he's 25... the assists he gets is ridiculous...
And to same trippier is better than trent at crosses is silly... look at the assists
I see him as a CM one day
Does Bellingham operate as a right back
I am sad that u didn't done justice to he is orgasmic to watch such a wonderful player
I Think trend is doing what no body ever did before and with the encouragement from his manager so it's only now that every one can see what is the picture of his football ⚽️ I am sure everyone that played football never did what trend does most specially if he got a chance to score, everyone can only see after the goal have gone in that's when everyone realizes oh it was Trend
What do you think about his best role/position being similar to that of veron?
Saying Zenchenco is more press resistant than TAA is a crime. Have you watched Arsenal last games?
Y are the best, ever
Do one of kephran Thuram of ogc nice pliz
Banned by UA-cam copyright after a couple of weeks, on our patreon/discord though.
Ive always said this, he's the only one close to KDB.... they're similar
As someone who sees every Liverpool game, the big problem - as you touch upon - is his ego/lack of application. He lately has this smug aura about him that I believe negatively impacts the team(and in turn his own performances). It's very annoying, because it feels like it's holding him back from being world class - like he was during our great days.
Dumbass comment
Should be the first name on the England team sheet...unfortunately, we have a wet wipe called southgate as a manager ... seems he doesn't like flair ,raw talent and someone able to take the odd risk etc...He likes diluted players ,yes men...like kane..
Do phil foden s best position
He has 5. He can play world class in 5 positions
He already has one... The Bench 😭
Who's better between Trent and Reece James
Due to injuries I would be surprised if Reece surpasses Trent by end of his career.
@@PythagorasinBootswhat if the injury were to miraculously disappear??
I Don't think James be anywhere close to his potential, 21 yo old James is proly the best we'll ever get.
Great video
Worst video you've made bro, made Trent sound so average. I don't need your analysis to know how good he is or what his ceiling is, dude's a legend in the making and one of the best passers you'll ever see. You compared him to Pogba ffs🙃
Pogba won a World Cup, just because united didn’t know how to use him didn’t mean he was useless in his prime
@@PythagorasinBoots
I'm so sorry, I overreacted. Still love your content like h3ll. I'm a Liverpool fan and we kinda see Trent differently.
You're comparing him to creative midfielders at one point then fallbacks on the next. These stats will look much more favorable if you only compare him to natural position(fallback) counterparts.
The reason we are doing that is to compare to both midfielders and full backs to see where his best position could be. We chose a blend of full backs and midfielders for each state - we didn’t just do one stat for full backs or mids
Martin Odegard vs Bruno Fernandes.
Bro said his long passes isn’t as consistent as Jude Bellingham’s💀
You’re completely missing the point of what was said