Top 10 Biggest Musical Sellouts
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Ice cube did it right. You can't be 40+ on that gangster shit. Go get your money cube we're not mad ✌️
Should’nt be on that gangsta shit period.
Yea man you can’t stay on that gangsta shit forever? You grow and adapt as you age, never saw it as a sell out, kinda feel it’s disrespectful to have him on this list tbh
Ice Cube is a family man now, he starred in movies his kids can watch and enjoy. Friday is quantum; nothing about his crossover is a sellout.
I was just about to say-I love his movies
Hell, look at what Snoop and Dr. Dre are doing. Sure, they're OG as fuck and will always be classic, but now they're so popular Snoop is hanging out with Guy Fieri and Martha Stewart, and Dr. Dre is a multi billionaire producer.
Okay green day didn't sell out. They just changed. They grew up. They still have their views from there early days. But bands have to change. Selling out is changing your sound to get big. Green day already was big. And they didn't really change their sound to get bigger. They just wrote better songs.
A7X Fan foREVer they even got more hardcore and they wrote music to have fun.
Yeah if you think "Jesus of Suburbia" is selling out, well, then I don't know what being authentic is.
valar dude it was about the character in the albums story
piefort99
I know. Green Day never sold out.
I do think Green Day got bigger and more popular than ever before when they released American Idiot. Because before that, the vast majority of people seemed to be mostly indifferent towards them, apart from Dookie being a highly successful album and having "Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life)" as a big hit.
Metallica was once asked about selling out and they replied, "Every town, every night."
but they still suck
Obviously selling out would mean you would sell more tickets, that’s why bands do it. That’s why they don’t deserve respect as genuine musicians because they left behind their style for more commercial and more accessible stuff
Lol
Do I honestly think they "Sold out"?
Well somewhat. There's only so many times you can do the same thing over and over again before you get bored *Yes I know Slayer stayed true and it worked* But some people get bored of doing the same thing. If you like where you are and you don't wanna go outside of your comfort zone that's totally fine. When they made the Black Album, I honestly don't think they were trying to make it so huge. But I can understand where they were coming from when Lars says
"If we made *And Justice For All... Part 2* that would've been the sellout"
George Lynch from Dokken can even be Quoted when he's talking about the Hair Metal Power Ballads.
"When you start making music because... it's the music you're supposed to make rather than what you wanna make? Then you're definitely compromising."
But I can see why hardcore fans would say "They sold out"
Think about it, when your part of the fanbase of a musical group, and you're there when it's born and it's Underground and outside the mainstream. But then you go and see Metallica on Black Album tour, and you see in the audience. All these snobby popular kids *Guys and Girls, Athletes and Cheerleaders* you go to school with, the ones who only listen to what's top ten on the radio, then you are seeing them everywhere you go in the media *Be on the Radio, TV, Magazines, etc* You wonder if what you love, is it still your own thing now? Or is it now part of the multi conglomerate that is "Mainstream Music"
@@jimpickens9681 are you sure bout that it seems like you have no taste of music
Cube ain't a sellout, he never claimed to be a gangster he rapped about his surroundings while growing up in South Central, he actually grew up educated
He's a businessman
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
The equivalency of cappin, "i aint even have to use my ak, today was a good day" everyone back then thought he was about it
He did sellout
Ice Cube didn't sell out, he grew up. When you have a family to take care of, why would you want to keep the image you have from when you're younger?
I agree. Not to mention his music is still the same. He just has another career as an actor/director. If this is just "musical" sellouts, he shouldn't be on here at all. I guess that means Ice T is a sellout as well.
+quinmar WTF didn't he quit making music?
Apparently he had to stay ignorant not to be a sell out -_-. This shit is disrespectful as shit.
peace l.p 2000 laugh now cry later 2006 raw footage 2008 i am the west 2010 and his suppose to be working on album called everything's corrupt. even tho he ain't drooped an album for 6 years you can still compare those albums to the one's he drooped in the 90's. don't know why he brought up is movie career. didn't know you could sell out movie wise.
There are plenty of rappers that have, Its got nothing to do with talking about the same thing. Infact Ice Cube is a bad example, as he was highly political as well as being angry which he could have been doing as an older man. I dont care anyway as music is clearly not his main priority and I dont really feel he has really sold out
#1 should've been WatchMojo
LMAOOO
you are so right, it's like- let's not even put any thought into any videos anymore, we're making bank... fuck it.
Yeah they used to be my favorite band :(
+Fabio Barresi lol stfu 😂
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Selling out is what KISS did, where they made action figures. Changing sounds doesn’t make you a sellout
KISS did NOT sell out. They told everyone up front, they were only in it for the money. They were completely honest about it.
Idk, the Dynasty album is the pure definition of sell out. A rock band making a disco album seems pretty sell out like to me, those 3 or 4 albums around the 79-82 were bad. I think it got back going around the Creatures album.
@@ColinsRacingChannel53 "Tattoo you" by the Rolling Stones, disco album by a rock band.
selling coffins, condoms, and greatest hits galore and boxsets here and there gene did sell out to that kiss are done.
That depends. When Prince went from Purple Rain to Around the World in a day, that was a challenge to the fans. Metallica going from Injustice to the Black lp was a sellout.
I was a teenager in the 90s and I can honestly say I have never heard of Liz phair.
Neither have I. Not something I would have liked anyhow.
I can also say that I never heard of Liz Phair until this video.
SAME! x
same here!
Me neither
There's a difference from evolving as a artist and selling out .
David is cool and great Exactly
I agree. Metallica has been around forever, you think they should just doing Master of Puppets over and over? The Black Album was more commercial but that was just the beginning of them changing it up with each project. St Anger wasn't very commercial and the trainwreck Lulu album got an enormous WTF? out of the world. Now the Black Eyed Peas? Ya, they totally went for being commercial.
Thomas The Dankest Train yup and evolving here just means change not getting better in my humble opinion
Well, people change all the time. No wonder, their bands change with them.
Tbh I didn't even watch the whole video but I knew that some of these artist evolved
In the cases of Ice Cube and Green Day, you've confused aging and personal growth with selling out. Nothing's sadder than a person that's the same at 50 as they were at 20.
exactly
I agree , bro. I’m a 57 year old rocker. If my music hasn’t evolved, I’d be a failure. I refuse to be like the cryptkeeper Rolling Stones, still playing “Satisfaction”.
Yeah... but actually Greenday had been sellouts since their vert beginning
Ozzy Sabbath
Can't take your words seriously when your username implies music elitism... 😀😀
Good point
Linkin Park's can't really be accused of selling out considering how their nu metal sounding albums Hybrid Theory and Meteora were very commercial successful in the first place.
But, in the end, it doesn’t really matter.
Thank you.
They did sell out because they changed from heavy metal to pop. And their 2014 album, which was the one that went back to their original style, had become their least successful studio album ever. And after that album they went right back to pop.
@@legoman3439 They weren't heavy metal, they were nu-metal. Metal elitists frown upon nu-metal, partially due to perceiving it as watered-down commercial MTV music. Personally, I actually enjoyed some nu-metal, as I appreciated the fusion of sounds from a variety of genres. Hybrid Theory and Meteora (as well as the rest of LP's discography) had some pop sensibilities; in the sense that the hooks and short verses were catchy af!
Nu metal is the definition of selling out
Aerosmith did not sell out, they changed with the times.
@Mastodon1976 noooo please make the same type of music that you’ll eventually become sick of because I said so pleeeease 😫😫😫
"Don't Wan't To Miss A Thing!", first dance song at many a short-lived 'Dirt-Bag' nuptials.
@@ern8059 They brought in outside writers and lost their early creativity. Aerosmith is probably the biggest sellout out of nearly anyone.
Aerosmith has always been the same. Effeminate guys with nail polish 🤮🤮
KISS went disco and they didn't even get an honorable mention? The fuck?
Kiss was never a band, they are a brand. They were allways created for that purpose.
Jørgen Haga you sir deserve a fucking smack for that one. KISS is, has and has always been a.) a pretty damn good band and b.) marketing geniuses. and being a marketing genius isnt even a bad thing. look at ALL the bands and artists around today, Merch on merch on merch so your statement is pretty fucking irrelevant lmao
and PissedOff_CroCop : they went disco for ONE whole album in 1979. your statement is also pretty fucking irrelevant as paul stated the only reason they did was to prove how ridiculously easy it is to get a top selling disco song/album and that anyone could do it, and guess what? boom, they made it, it sold shit tons, became chart topping and a huge economical success. now both of you go fuck off in a corner and jack youselves to sleep or some shit. faen heller ignorante fettehuer
No...No, KISS was good UNTIL they went disco, it went downhill from there
funny how the non make up albums were the biggest albums of their entire career. selling 3 times as much as any album before them. the first few albums sold around 75-80k copies. revenge alone sold 500.000. they went straight to the top after creatures.
saying kiss are sellouts would be like claiming the rolling stones as sellouts.. STUPID. with so many albums they cannot all be amazing, and they cannot all be the same, but they have still maintained a level of rock, even if it was not as heavy as their original stuff. being arguably one of the best live performing bands ever, playing an MTV unplugged show as well as doing a show with a symphonic band they are clearly performers who love their work regardless of their success. kiss shits all over real sellouts.
Green Day had been in music since the late 80's and were drug users when they were younger. They didn't sell out, they just quit the drugs, matured and cleaned up their sound. They never even cared about the money! Does anyone expect a band that had been in music for 20+ or even 10+ years to still sound like their very first album?
People now days wonder why metallica's 2014 demo "lords of summer" doesn't sound like their 1983 "kill em' all". Some people are just idiots
Im so glad other people get it
yeah they just evolved. but you know nostalgic people always does that. "ugh they dont sound like their first album blah" shit people always say. fuck you watchmojo for putting greenday no.1
Kenneth Villanueva exactly!
Weezer's newest album the white album returns to their roots, yet they made an honorable mention, you think watchmojo gives a fuck? they showed digimon footage insteacd of pokemon footage in top 10 animes, and they make stupid lists pandering to penis like top 10 sex positions. Your expectations were way too high if you thought that Watchmojo wasn't going to put someone who deserved the number one spot there, especially because a lot of Green Day's newer stuff is still good
For the first time ever, I watched a Mojo video that I believed to be COMPLETELY unfounded. Honestly, no one abandoned those acts. This whole thing sounded contrived.
Artists go through changes because they evolve as musicians and people too...
And because their record label tells them to.
WHAT? No Gwen Stephani? She sold out her band, her music genre and then immediately took a massive dive and now she is the poster child of sellouts. You guys missed the mark big time Mojo.
No doubt.
+MTBVegan Rich killed me....simple and the word play was on point....
Durrty Water It was my greatest work to date 😂 Glad it gave you a laugh.
but she didn't change her band's sound. they took a break & she made music she wanted. No Doubt still makes *similar* music even after her solo career.
funny of no mention of rhiannna too...
I wouldnt say ice cube sold out, so much as just accepted getting older
Gangsta Rap died out on its own... if one accuses Ice Cube, then what about Snoop? Bad List this is
+Alyssa Jimenez gangsta rap died. there's rappers like Yg who try to keep it alive and strong but it just looks whack
I agree with that. The music scene changes so rapidly that Cube just accepted it and realized that as an actor he could (almost) always make money.
Ice Cube sold out when he started making awful movies like Are We There Yet? and First Sunday.
I agree.
If I wanted music from any particular artist to sound the same, I would not need to buy their next album. I would already have it. Music is art. Art is an expression. Growth is necessary.
I think we have to consider the fact some of these artists started out as teenagers, early 20s, and just simply grew up, Taylor swift, cube, Metallica, maturity changes people.
Aerosmith does not belong on this list!! When your carrier spans nearly 5 decades a bit of adapting is to be expected.
Most of these people don't belong. It's just a reach of any artist who has become remotely more pop than they used to be
They clearly dont know what there talking about. If Aerosmith is on here, LL should definitely be on here.
Aerosmith hasn't made any good music since the 70s!
@@ricomajestic Craig made a good point. When your making music that long, adapting to the times is a must.
A lot of bands adapt to the times and make great music...think of David Bowie for example. Aerosmith made some real cheesy music and videos...songs like Love in an elevator, rag doll, and dude looks like a lady are just bubble gum crap.
Ice cube isn't a sell out. He just grew up. Some people never grow up.
Robert Hernandez I love Ice Cube. Growing up served him well
Ice Cube is a lying stealing thug(its a FACT he stole from Cypress Hill)
Such as watchmojo
That's the problem with gangsta rap (I love it btw) they can only rap about so much mean they make the money to get away from the hood and once they get out they obviously can't rap there stories, tbh though cube did go more low key with his stuff before he became a movie star
Common sense👍
You guys clearly have no idea what "selling out" actually is.
Uh, yes they do, simp.
@@whenfatkillsfat803 They obviously don't, simp. Stop simping for them.
@@hiddenlineage4296 they definitely don't k ow what it means n what is simping? I e never heard of this before
@@stevenward920 Simping is when you do way more than you should for someone you like, or are you waaaaay too into them and its downright cringey. A simp for example, is someone who pays the onlyfans girls hundreds of dollars.
Why Linking Park? Their music has always been good. Also RIP Chester.
Because they became pop
Literally NO ONE has ever accused Ice Cube of selling out.....fire who ever put him on this list immediately.
I agree. Ice cube if anything he is one of has kept It the realist his whole career, he definitely beats snoop dogg
Yes because someone deserves to lose their job because you don't agree with them. These things aren't exactly scientific.
Dee Wright settle down girl, it was obviously a joke...
Are we there yet begs to differ.
Justin Huskey lol....cant be a thug forever man. Ice Cube does it for the kids man, “the muthafuggan kids!”
[sees title of video] [rushes to comments]
same
+Agent-Grail of the The Feared Night Reapers same
*Sees the video, ignores it. Doesn't know what to watch choses randomly and now i'm here*
yep
+Colossus ^
This list is garbage. Half of these weren’t “sell outs.” Creativity and diverse expression (eg Linkin Park) is not the same as selling out. 👎🏻
Alot of them are indeed sell outs. It's the truth.
Bruh. I love Linkin Park. I absolutely love them. But if you go from Hybrid Theory and Meteora to One Last Light, then no matter how good the new album is, it's still selling out
Agreed. Liz should is 100% false
If they didn't change, they'd be criticised for not changing. You sometimes just can't win.
LP was never good
Everything from Green Day is awesome. They got older. Less angry. Became better musicians and writers. Came to appreciate the slow jam. Same with Metallica. You either chill or end up dead at 27. If you never change after your 20 you're not doing life right.
I agree with that.
Metallica.
The biggest crybabies in Rock and Roll
Ice cube didn't sellout he got older and started acting his age. you can't be young and reckless all your life and a gangster when you live a totally different life style and a family
I've said the same thing for years! yes
I thought the list was about music but I guess not but why they compare straight outta Compton to are we there yet but one is album and the other is a movie how?
So true, think this whole list is slightly inaccurate
thank you he ain't no sell out
Have you seen Are we there yet
Green Day being on this list is bullcrap. Just because they've changed their style doesn't mean they've sold out. Their music has always been somewhat political and with a rock opera type lyrics.
SuperTanuma yes
Same with Linkin Park
Sarcastichuman Beingsarcastic THANK YOU. they even admited to doing the electronic stuff because they enjoyed it more at the time
When they play Billy Joe doesnt even play his fucking guitar. He has some guy in the shadows play for him lmao. 110% sellout shit.
Ghost a lot of bands have done that. It's hard to sing, play guitar, and entertain a crown during a live performance. It's much easier to jump around, pump up the crowd and sing if you're not shackled by having to play the guitar.
The jewel song intuition was a slap in the face to main stream music. Parodying and mocking what it's all about. Any true fan of hers would know that. Not quite an accurate list, even just being an honorable mention.
Rip Chester. You never sold out.
After first 2 albums they sucked save for a few songs. If you like old Linkin Park, check out From Ashes to New.
Linkin Park had nothing to sell.
I disagree about Ice Cube. That is not selling out- it is called growing up.
'Gangster' Rappers can't keep up such a persona for long, because eventually their lifestyle changes.
Surprised that they didn't put Dr. Dre alongside him considering the man's net worth is almost at 1 billion dollars. But you're right it's called growing up. Even then though, he doesn't belong on this list since the title is about musical sellouts, and Ice Cube hasn't produced anything himself in ages so he hasn't sold himself out musically, but perhaps character-wise he has.
I hear Ice Ts new album is better than Civilization with the Brave New World Expansion Pack!
ice cube a sellout because he has grown in another arena? he's older! he has discovered other talents and you're calling him a sellout? you must have been in a rush to put this list together!
Agreed. Hip-hop is a young mans game. Its mainly for teens and YAs to cater to their "rebellion" side. Once you hit 40 its almost like you dont even believe the lyrics you spit anymore cuz you like "yo I made my money off of this 20 years ago, now its just seems Im beatin a dead horse.
I agree. His career moves with who is. I agreed with the list cept ice cube. He's not even making music he's making movies. Completely different.
Liz Phair one of the most influential artists of the 1990s?
I can honestly say I had never heard of her before this video. Is she massive in the States?
Her debut album was commercially and critically acclaimed and was even named one of the top 500 best albums ever by Rolling Stones.
I live in the states and grew up in the 90s. Never heard of her.
I don't live in the United States but I know she was pretty big at some point.
Her debut album Exile in Guyville is one of the most critically acclaimed rock albums of the 90s, idk if shes only popular in the states tho
Same
Linkin Park didn't sell out. They just changed their style with almost every album.
Had they just stayed the same they would've gotten the same hate as Nickelback.
Many artists will change their musical styles during their musical careers ..some multiple times in their careers. Doesn't make them sellouts , just means they are growing and changing as we all do.
lots of shit happened between Dookie and American Idiot.... about 10 years worth of it. Green Day never sold out, they just developed their sound over time. If the die-hard "punk" fans of the Kerplunk/Dookie days were to be turned off by Green Day's change of sound, they all would have all left by Nimrod.Also Dookie isn't all just "punk rock", Green Day have never been fully punk rock.
*Edit*: I also don't think writing a musical is selling out, it's just being creative. They also made little to no money out of the musical, they gave the director consent and Billie Joe took interest and helped with the writing, tell me how that's selling out?
Seansation101 someone said it!!
Rowin Wings U bet someone did ;)
Seansation101 Well said!
JP McGrath why thankyou
Seansation101 honestly I've seen different versions of this response and this is probably the most accurate
Ice cube isn't 17 years old anymore he grew up and,is multi talented he is a business man just as much as he is a performer. Metallica's slower songs are filled with meaning and epic poetry,along with amazing metal instrumentals.
exactly
Exactly my thoughts.
So that's how it got it's name... Matallica
get the fuck outta here after ...And Justice for All they sold out the black album wasnt bad but everything after that is utter trash. Definitely not a metal fan over here
Metallica is still the poster child for sellout whores among the metal community. Shame on those clowns. If they hadn't made such epic albums in the 80's, they'd be a forgotten shitty band by now
Linkin Park never sold out. Every album was different from the last. They were always chasing the new sound
Ice Cube matured, he didn't sell out. Taylor Swift just changed genres and made more in her latter genre.
wait, Nicki Minaj is a musician?
Her butt makes music when her implants move.
GG xD
Nowhere close
Well she can sing...
+Terry Joshua Yeah, and I could become a doctor.
how is KISS not on this list? biggest sell outs in music history by FAR. it's honestly not even close.
Can't sellout if you started with money on the mind to begin with.
Once a Jew always a Jew
+Anselm Fane ikr
Right?! Gene Simmons would sell his own children if it meant more money & popularity! If you've ever seen his Family Jewels show, you'd see- according to him, everything has a price tag on it! Good call on KISS being sell outs! But they still ROCK 🤘🏻
+Anselm Fane lmao what do u mean one song?!?! they are arguably the most successful "rock" band on history
Jewel didn't sell out. Intuition was a parody because her label was trying to force a pop image on her. So she made intuition and lambasted them to where they let her return to what she did best (folk pop).
Ah, that makes sense!!! I have a new respect for her now that I know that.
And I did check out the album sometime ago. It's actually a pretty good album and other songs on the album are still country-tinged in its production.
artist evolved. you cant expect their sound the same. if you are a fan you will follow their journey. green day, radiohead and many more evolved from their early sound but true fan will follow the journey.
I agree with some of these. I think Maroon 5 and Black Eyed Peas in particular absolutely changed their sound purely for the money involved with the larger audience. They could be forgiven if they attempted to bring some of their old sound back now that they have an audience to play it to, but at the moment it's just money-grabbing.
However, a good few of these really seem to just be bands gradually getting sick of writing in a particular style (or even genre) and turning to something they would have more fun with, which just happens to be a style that appeals to a wider audience of fans. I really don't think bands like Green Day and Metallica "sold out" so much as just wanted to write different music and change up their sound.
Ice cube should not be on this list either. Expanding into other ventures does make you a sellout
+Shiann Tolliver ice cube has always been about where his life is at the current moment. I don't think of him selling out either. He shifted when his life changed. He went from survival on the streets to having babies it happens to all of us :).
thats why listen to black and death metal
Yup, most rock bands never 'sell out', they just change their direction and continue experimenting. Maroon 5 was never a rock band. They were always pop.
I'm not a massive fan of them but that's what I've always felt as well...never were they rock in any sense, it's ALWAYS felt like pop.
Top 10 Artist Who Didn't Sound the Same Forever
PookLowEnd Coldplay
right some of these are a reach
I LOVE this idea for a WATCHMoJo video ! 2 thumbs up 👍😃👍
To be fair, Taylor Swift was exclusively made to be as commercial as popular.
And Blackeyed Peas 100% were sellouts.
My chemical romance totally sold out
Ice Cube grew up with this fans. He knew his younger fans from the 80’s and 90’s where older now and he wanted to keep them.
I can't believe they put Aerosmith, Nicki Minaj,Taylor Swift and Maroon 5 on this list! Going mainstream or evolving their music doesn't mean they sold out.
'Going Mainstream' from their original work is exactly what selling out means though. Aerosmith went from Rock and Blues to pop.
@@trs5127 They are stretching and adapting. They are trying different stuff.
If you think that is wrong, or "selling out", then the band doesn't need fans like you.
PS What is it about fans that they jealously guard what they liked about a band, and don't them to do things to get new fans, like they should just stick to the fans who discovered them originally.
@@dhenderson1810 I don't have an issue with experimenting as long as you're not compromising on your core sound. Bring Me The Horizon are one of my favourite bands to date. I absolutely love them. They went from Deathcore, to Metalcore to radio metal to their fifth album, but they were distinctly Bring Me The Horizon. Then they went pop rock on the sixth, and many fans weren't happy, including myself. Then they released their 7th EP, and they mixed Metalcore, Electronic, catchy hooks and made all of that work, and that EP is one of my fav things to happen in 2020. Did I hate BMTH cuz they went Pop rock in their sixth album? No. I didn't. But if they would have stuck with pop, it would have hurt.
@@dhenderson1810 my point being, diversifying means you can try different stuff with an album, then go back to your roots while taking into account what you learned from that album that went mainstream in an EP or something, see if it catches success, then you may try something else in another album, and see if it works, then mix up all you know in another album. That's what diversifying is. If you go from making hard rock anthems to electronic beep boops and turn your back towards your original sound because electronic beep boops is getting you commercial and mainstream success, then that's exactly what selling out is.
@@trs5127 That's what making money is!
Do me a favor, never run a business, because you will go broke in no time.
Your comment is stupid. It is like saying that if you start at the bottom of the rung in your workplace (say, as the mailboy), and then get promoted to an office job, you should then, at some stage, go back to being a mailboy and see what you learnt.
No-one wants to go back to where they started. They want to grow, and get more successful. Most indy bands who hasn't hit the mainstream haven't done it not to sell out, but because they refuse to adapt their sound or not having the sound or things necessary to appeal to the mainstream.
Every artist or band aim for the mainstream, some just don't get there, and they don't need you revelling in their lack of success by being happy that they didn't "sell-out".
If I were an artist or band, I would rather shed those fans who think that I "sold out", because I will get a much bigger fanbase in the mainstream, and go from being known by a handful of fans to being a household name.
Bands aren't there to "experiment" with the mainstream, they want to stay there.
It is up to you, and them, to adapt to the marketplace, and not for everyone else to cater to just what YOU want.
black eye peas is the biggest sellout on the list and should have been number 1. the jump from who they originally were to who they turned out to be in the end, basically shows a drastic change in their personality and physical appearance. their music was one thing, but they totally changed their look and the image they portray originally.
the e.n.d was their best album to date tho, getting fergie to join in 2003 was the best decision they ever made.
+Lord B Rich Financially it was..
Did they break up or something and what happened to that guy I can never remember his name?
Not to mention the hypocrisy. Their lyrics and songs before blatantly stated that crappy meaningless music was something thing they never wanted to be apart of and then lo and behold, Sir Fergenstein was added. Funnily enough she used them to prop up her own solo career, thus making them look foolish. Out of everyone on that list, they were the most disappointing as the others were either growing up or were obviously phony to begin with.
Their first two albums are two of my most favourite albums of all time. Lyrics and production were top notch. People don't really know how sick of a producer Will can be
There is a different between artist who want to change their style and to try new things and between artist who do it just for the money and artist who do whats popular. Please dont forget this.
Theres a fine line with all that.
Definition of American Idiot and The Black Album
If you can defend Coldplay's collab with those insufferable chainsmokers, I'm all ears.
Logan A Definiton of Fall Out Boy, being the changing sound, and Maroon 5, being the sell out.
Nitzan Anavi Maroon 5 legit sold out. That band itself not just Adam were great.
Selling out is completely different than developing and maturing with the sound you wish to portray as a musician...
Ice cube is just generally all around talented gangster rap albums, family movies .. ect whatever he decides to do hes been very successful. thats because he worked hard on every project and it shows.
How da F you gonna have Ice Cube on here but not Ice T ?? Dude literally went from making songs about Killin cops to playing one on tv!
I was looking for this comment...
But too be fair Ice Cube did the same thing but with Ride Along. Now I agree that ice cube shouldnt be on this list cause these morons dont get the difference between evolving and selling out.
Isn't Ice-T in Body Count?
Ice cube is one of the biggest sell out ever pretending to be gangsta wigga please
Ice-T's music never changed, his persona did. Basically he didn't sellout to make more records he just stopped making records and acted...if we're talking about just music.
Green Day are not sellouts cause their music changed, people change, think that is plainly Stupid, but because they kicked the punk Scene right in the face
Sure that their music is not punk rock anymore but stills good at least (expet of the triology, that shit sucks cock
+Anarkiaa Nihilistaah still sellouts
They had their own line of shoes and book bags sold at Target, they sold out.
truee
The main reason people started calling them sellouts was because they left the independent Lookout to join the Warner Music Group owned Reprise.
"Nothing Else Matters" is, and always will be, a classic! Why is it selling out to evolve and try new songs!
I’m not specifically talking about Metallica here, but there’s a difference between trying a new sound because you wanted to try new sound, and trying a new sound because the trend has moved on and you are willing to move in whatever direction necessary in order to keep the cash coming in. Especially when lots of these people start their careers rebelling against the mainstream, they find success even though they aren’t the mainstream and then they end up embracing it. It just looks hypocritical and makes some people ask the question, what the hell happened here
Nothing else matters is a fucking classic!!!! Screw you mojo!!! I'm un-Subscribing!!!!
Syke , it ain't that serious lol
If any of these artist didn't "sell out" they would never would have extended their career no matter how brief. The fact you know any of these additional songs means they did the right move.
Different sound = sellout???
"Betraying" a genre
+Roc Clarke bands like to change their sound
Jai Metal Eh... Fan bases have their individual concepts and mindsets...
+Roc Clarke You're right about that one
Yeah I'm with you.
Linkin Park never sold out they always said that they never wanted every album to be the same as the last!
Blink287 agree. They adapted to the times and experimented many things, and I wouldn’t change a thing.
Yeah, and they could never be accused of chasing the mainstream. Hybrid Theory & Meteora were huge successes and put them on the map. New songs charted regularly throughout their Minutes To Midnight & A Thousand Suns albums, as well as individual singles. They found a formula that worked, they knew what it took to make record breaking albums, yet Living Things & The Hunting Party never sold well because they chased a more alternative sound. Hell, The Hunting Party was lyrically the heaviest album they ever made. They made what they wanted to make. The exact opposite of a sell out.
@Mary Burdette Good joke, bitch.
@Rob Melrose Come in heavy wasnt that Bad sure it was different but Not bad
That's called business talk
There is a difference between selling out and changing and growing with the times. Not all of these artist deserve to be on this list
As a Green Day fan I personally preferred their earlier punk albums but when you are in the music industry as long as they have been there will be a change in style as the years go on.
How does collaborating with Run DMC make Aerosmith sellouts?! They just did a very unusual collab for a rockband, which ended up being a genius move on their part. That's not selling out, that's just a really smart way of getting their brand out to a wider audience. It's not like they stepped away from their genre, they just mixed rock and hip hop, something that has been done countless time since then.
You are totally right they also managed tobreak massive walls between rock and rap.
well, i would say the colab with rundmc was simply a grasp at, although successful, regaining popularity..
"i dont want to miss a thing" however, no.. that seems pretty much like back to their roots.. i mean "dream on" is another great "ballad" of theirs..
@@dannymallon3172 and the sad result was dubbed "nu-metal".
@@miou-miou- I agree I don't want to miss a thing is a fantastic song. As for nu metal one of the leading bands is called limp bizkit which explains alot about the genre.
Just what i thought!
Taylor swift should have been number 1
No, Watchmojo should be, who gives a fuck if they're not musicians, because they're the biggest fucking hypocrites if they want to criticize anyone for "selling out" considering that's all this channel does
Sorry adrian but Katy Perry should've been number 1 she used to sing about religion and god amd stuff ! Then she was like fuck that! I'm selling shit! I need to sing about kissing girls and sucking dick or something!!
+Tino5135 lmfaoo you got a point but idk she was never really big or have a following when she sung about God, her career as most know has always just been a pop star. Taylor Swift on the other hand grew a following from her country music and slowly (not really) but surely she changed her sound to full blown pop music and now she's like one, if not the, biggest pop star in the world rn (but at least Taylor writes decent music)
+Tino5135 But somehow seem kid friendly while doing it...
+Adrian M Don't get me wrong dude... I am no fan of Taylor Swift (My daughter thinks she is amazing!) - But I do not see her as a Sell out... She just adapted! Her niche audience would not have gave her success nor would it have lasted... Country Stars that succeed are few and far between lets be honest!
Kenny Rogers, Dolly Parton, The Man in Black... MASSIVE SUCCESSES! And at least ONE OF THEM is a Sell out! (Notice how WatchMojo.com AVOIDED that one!!!)... BUt they are all exceptions to the rule...
Same as Blues singers... Gary Moore sold out to the mainstream, but if he hadn't... Who would remember him? And while he became more mainstream - He stayed true to his music in most respects... While Taylor now does more 'Bubblegum Pop'... She still write s a lot of her own stuff and in most respects on that front stays true to her music...
But she KNOWS that ain't going to last - Hence the perfumes and stuff... Selling out or Business sense??? Its a fine line!!!
I see selling out as being an Artist that has CONTINUALLY BEMOANED The Industry but then embraced it to get rich and popular... And I have to be honest, Few or none of the artists on this list Qualify in that respect!
Madonna - She would!!! But they do not include her! Cher - There is another!
I am older than the people behind Watchmojo so my mind immediately goes to the 2 biggest schlockmeisters of the 80's, Phil Collins and Lionel Ritchie. Both were in bands that were critically successful, Genesis and The Commodores, and when said bands started having more commercial success, they both started making solo records that increasingly became less challenging and more pandering to radio and video.
Id call both more of a style change. Lionel Richie left The Commodores for a solo career, I think partly as he always seemed to favour the ballads over the funk. By the time he left they were already big, although Richie got bigger solo.
The thing with Genesis is people assume they went from weird prog concept LPs to AC pop songs overnight, but in truth they changed gradually with the times. After prog they had an art-rock era from about 1978-1982 as it was big then. In contrast Collins’ solo career was always pretty accessible, and bar maybe 4 or 5 tracks you can tell Genesis songs apart from his. But he got bigger solo than the band, hence people jumped to conclusions that he’d forced them to be a more radio-friendly pop act like his solo work. Even the most ‘pop’ Genesis album still has a multi-part 10 minute song that gets acclaim.
You guys need to have hosts older than 22 to make these lists.
Coldplay. They started as a softer version of Radiohead and turned into a bubblegum electronic pop act.
True
and then started hanging around with hollywood celebrities and injecting their music into every tv series and tv advert
They were always rubbish, dreary pop crap.
For real I was surprised about them not being on this list. They had a few cool alternative rock albums and then they started making club type songs lol.
@@danp207 No, they were always a genetic, unimaginative band. They simply aren't capable of writing any better songs
Taylor Swift should be higher on this list
thank you
absolutely!
shut the **** up. You're just jealous of her success
+Raiyan Ahmed butthurt?
+Sote Ful cool story bro
"We're not saying playing pop music makes you a sellout..."
*Literally mentions all the musical act playing more popular music*
But if you start out playing pop music from the very beginning, then you're not a sellout. For instance, Ariana Grande isn't a sellout because she always sang pop.
@@rebecca8525 But if she then starts singing other things than pop, would you then call her a "sell-out"?
A lot of these bands and artists didn't sell out but changed with the times... and the goal of most musicians is to be successful and famous so they do what they gotta do to sells records and stay relevant
Let's all be real here...Most of these guys didn't sell out, they got older, their music evolves(like it or not) along with their age. They can't sing like they are 20 for the rest of their lives, their music matures. Taylor Swift on the other hand is the biggest fraud in music, she came into the scene with her fake country music and then as soon as she got big, she said see ya and moved into pop music, and left country music into the shitty state it's in today. In my opinion, her and Maroon 5 were NEVER GOOD!
Yeah, I just shake my head when I hear people complaining about musical changes from a band/artist whose been around for decades. I don't care about Taylor Swift one way or the other.
She's a brilliant and fantastic songwriter? All of her songs are the same, about every boyfriend she broke up with
Rock God I actually love the direction Taylor's taken her music since red. I feel like majority of the artists on this list didn't sellout as much as much as they evolved their sound. Only true Sellouts to me here are nicki and black eyed peas, BEP used to be sooo awesome and unique and they are garbage now. It's heartbreaking.
Rock God I agree about Taylor Swift...not Maroon 5 tho
Agreed. Taylor Swift is pretty fucking fake imo. I understanding evolving, but she jumped from country music to pop in .5 seconds. It was the most random thing ever. Not a fan of her music at all.
I must have missed Maroon 5s 'musical artistry' phase.
Rob LaDue right. i’ve always thought maroon 5 are overrated as hell
Check out harder to breathe
Moroon 5 is just freaky. Something is just not quite right and I never have put my finger on it.
Their first singles were good. She Will Be Loved, Sunday Morning and This Love particularly were good
You were probably too busy... I was going to insult you but come on they had some great hits on their Songs by Jane album.
Green Day never sold out, their style changed and evolved. You can't play the same thing over and over again, you will be so bored. They didn't even sell out when they signed a record deal, they did it so they can MAKE A LIVING MAKING MUSIC
Here are some ACTUAL bands that sold out:
Panic! At The Disco (went from pop punk to alt-rock to pop)
Thirty Seconds To Mars (went from alt-metal to pop punk to electro-rock to pop)
Bring Me The Horizon (went from deathcore to metalcore to hard rock to pop)
Fall Out Boy (went from pop punk to pop rock)
The problem is that this whole list is based on the idea that "selling out" and "changing genres" are the same thing. They're not. The belief that a band must only adhere to a single genre their entire career is ridiculous. People grow and change, especially during decades-spanning careers, as is the case for many of the artists on this list. As long as the shift is what the artists actually want, then I say all power to them.
where the fuck is coldplay?! a sellout list isn't a fucking sellout list without coldplay
Augusto Alexandre indie bands don't count, genius.
coldplay, indie band? Are you dumb?
Augusto Alexandre lmao so fucking well said and so true
How'd they reply sorry bro cause idk
Augusto Alexandre how'd they sell out bro cause idk
A sell out, because they changed their musical genre, and grew as artists? Sounds like a pretentious hipster made this list. Music is music.
WatchMojo: "Top 10 bands who made some music that was different than when they started so therefore they are horrible sellouts!"
I'm not saying these artist didn't change their sound to make more money but there's also the chance that they started off doing what the label wanted, then changed to what they wanted to do. Changing your sound doesn't mean selling out, it can show range. Lots of bands/artists put out music that always sounds the same n it gets dull.
in addition, some ppl grow up n have a different view in life n therefore the message they want to send out, n leave in the world, changes
I disagree. The only artists up here that even remotely dabbled in what made them in the first place was Metallica with Death Magnetic in 2012. I would agree if these artists had become more unique over time instead of becoming much more watered down, but that hasn't been the case. In my opinion, there is a difference between expanding your audience and simply trying to reach more people. Artists know that different people like different things, and they also know which people will make them the most money.
Very true words.
I completly agree with this comment. AC/DC gets shit for sounding exactly the same. and if Changing sound is selling out what about madona. a d snoop dog. plus pink hanged her sound from what the label wanted and blew up
I agree. I think it's stupid to judge. Music changes all the time, the artists have to change with it. If you stick to the past you get left in the past.
You forgot No Doubt... Gwen Stefani used to make good alternative rock music.. then all of the sudden became this POP/SKA Bubble-head
Lucas Carvalho Don't forget holla back girl Lol
But Gwen took a huge risk going solo and made a completely unique sound, more unique then No Doubt was (I prefer No Doubt but to call her a sell out is crazy). Gwen starting living a different life and her music changed, as it's suppose to.
Erik Andersson what unique sound? She went full blown mainstream pop princess, grab the money and run garbage.
She didn't become a POP/SKA bubble-head. She was SKA then she went pop/hip hop/whatever. Ska may be alt-rock but ska is definitely not pop. So if you like the old Gwen/No Doubt then you like ska. If artists want to make beaucoup deniros they have to appeal to the masses. And there isn't really any integrity in appealing to the masses... ever hear of McDonalds?
Erik Andersson “completely unique sound”... LMFAO
How did Gwen Stefani not even get an honorable mention she's one of the biggest sellouts of all
Cameron Henson right! Thts what I said in my pre-comment bc I know how Mojo are. I knew they wouldn’t put her on the list. She literally turned her back on her friends n left them behind to become a solo artist!! How is she not #1
She was in No Doubt in the 90's, then she went as a solo artist but with her style, she has her preferences, but in her origins, she was in a band and when she came as a solo act, she obviously wanted to make a difference between her and her band No Doubt. If she had started as a solo artist then it would be considered as a sellout.
Amen. She's the worst
And some might even accuse her of being a culture vulture
Ice cube has grown to be a healthy role model. It's should be viewed as growing
Maroon 5 hands down should have been #1. Everything after Songs About Jane is complete shit
Chad Crawford What about their second album.
Prometheus Fair point, to an extent. Only about half that one is trash.
Maroon 5 definitely should have been #1. They had to slap a random rap verse into an already awful song in order for the single not to flop. They’ve been really downhill since “Moves Like Jagger”.
Couldn't agree more. When I saw the video title, I automatically thought of them.
The next one after was fine. After moves like Jagger is when I was just done.
So any band who becomes remotely successful and evolves with the times is a sellout?
You still don't get it
Oh he gets it just fine!
It's when they make tunes which are radio friendly, appeal to much younger fans, or just follow current popular music trends. You're welcome.
Changing your music style or following a trend doesn't make you a sell out. It's perfectly normal since you won't get anywhere doing the same shit and will just stagnate
Doing it for money on the other hand is since your literally changing your style for money
Changing styles will bring new fans to the old style.
Musicians grow and evolve their sound. If you think they sell out, just don’t listen to their music? 🤷🏻♀️ not to say every evolution is good, sometimes it turns to shit too
Ice cube ain’t sell out. He be writing, producing & starring in movies. He just ain’t wanna be a middle age gangsta rapper, can’t blame him 🤷🏽♀️
The ice cube thing was a stretch he became an actor
Not really. He had a street edge in his music while he was making the Friday movies . An although I wasn't a fan the west side connection was mostly gangster rap and the lynch mob was too. Then he started doing a lot of radio friendly pop rap stuff. He definitely went the will smith route over time.
I was thinking the same thing......
This video didn’t give valid reasons. But how can you make a song with Chuck D called “Burn Hollywood Burn” and then make movies I. Hollywood AS A COP!!
Tbh I kind of have to give Green Day a pass because some of their best work was made after they started shedding some of the raw side of punk.
I agree, I never thought they were a sell out at all and after what they did at that Award show about Trump, they show they are still punks and anarchists at heart.
There's a huge difference between "evolving" and "selling-out". "Evolving" is when an artist tries to experiment with something different in comparision with what they've done before. "Selling-out" is when an artist abandons their roots completly and just begins to chase trends with the goal of only making money. Sure some artists got accused of selling-out just for doing something different (Bring Me The Horizon, Paramore, Panic! At the Disco, Green Day, even Twenty One Pilots got accused of selling-out when Blurryface came out), but some artists did indeed sell out, such as Maroon 5, Taylor Swift, 30 Seconds To Mars or Fall Out Boy (this one actually hurts to say).
All the artists on this list are super successful after the change 🤷🏽♀️ sounds like a smart move to me
They found new fans, not whiny fans who refuse to let bands move with the times.
I don’t think they understood what sellouts are🤦♂️
Alberto Rios clearly not. Maroon 5, yes. Black eyed peas, yea but they got most of this list wrong
Maybe you don't understand? What's your definition?
I don't think you understood the criteria they were using to determine what classifies as 'sellout'
I was expecting like MJ / Dangerous or Beatles Yellow submarine or something... How about the Madonna bed thing?
“Sellout ..... is when an artist forgoes their original sound and intentions *in order to capitalize on a broader market*”. According to their own criteria (not yours or mine, necessarily), simply evolving as an artist absolutely does not qualify. It has to be intentional in order to capitalize on a broader market. Most of this list does not qualify.
Nearly every band changes their sound some over time, with the possible exception of AC/DC. As Angus Young once said, “Critics day we have made 10 albums that all sound the same and that makes me angry. We’ve made 11 albums that all sound the same.” (Rough quote off the top of my head, but the gist is correct.)
Ice cube had a family. He wanted to produce stuff that he could watch with his kid so that makes him a sell out? These people grow up and realize that they can't stay doing the same stuff all the time. People need to get over this sell out crap.
Plus, he went from being a typical gangsta rapper to someone more friendly. And people see that as a bad thing? That's just becoming a better person. If people think that's bad, they need to reevaluate themselves. Last thing we need is more men rapping about objectifying women, drugs, violence, etc.
Taylor jay i remember he said in an interview that he wanted to make content so that when fans of his music have kids, they can have memories of him that they can look back on when they get older. It made me feel happy knowing he wanted to affect our generation in a positive way tbh.
Taylor jay plus all his latest albums are still aggressive and irreverent.
from Ice Cube to Nice Cube
Taylor jay just like Snoop Dogg and Dr.Dre and in retrospective i'm glad they are less edgier then in the 90's, i wonder what if Biggie and 2pac would stay that rap mentality
Taylor swift didnt sell out. She grew up. I listened to death metal when I was 15 and my 20s it was dave matthews and Jason mraz and my 30s was when I found Tupac and now I'm in my forties and it's all 1980s music.
Tastes change. Swift would have been marketable talent in any genre.
DMB sucks ass
In my opinion, a band/artist's job is not to cater to a specific group of fans. It's to make music they enjoy and share it with the world. If I was a musician, I wouldn't want to feel stuck playing music of the same style/genre just because that's what people want me to do. If musicians want to switch up their sound they should be able to do that without a bunch of backlash
So if a band changes their sound they have sold out?...Tastes change...styles changed...that is music
they said they change their sound to target a broader market, I call that common sense
ROBLOX GOD I don't even think they did that...their tastes just changed...I wouldn't want to be pigeon hold my entire career...neither would they...
Billboardguy1 marron 5 is a real band????? i thought that was a fake band on a Nickelodeon show the only place ive ever seen them is places like the back of a cereal box advertising Nickelodeon where it would say hey kids win a chance to meet marron 5 and the cast from blah blah blah
yes that's the biggest sell out move ever movie doesn't make a band it's there sound
Any band that goes pop is selling out. You don't grow as an artist and find yourself passionate about four chord pop music...
Green day didn't sell out lmao, they grew up and matured. Nobody wants to hear 35 year old men in 2004 talk about masturbation and drugs. They didnt alienate fans. People just cant let go of 90s nostalgia.
Daniel Deitz well explained
Agreed both new and old GD are fucking awesome
People who use the term “sellout” are the same people who say the phrase: “You’ve changed!” I sure as hell hope so. They are the people who were born and raised in the same town and still live there now. They have no drive, ambition, or courage to leave their safe zone and try something new because of what their towny, frenemies might think. They’re losers. People and bands should change. I commend them for trying new things, new sounds with new people. They’re artists. You’re a crab in a bucket trying to pull others down to your level. You’re basically saying: “No, I want this band to sound like this and if they don’t, they’re sellouts.” You’re a bitter fan and your opinion doesn’t matter. Stupid list.
I don't want each album being a rehash of their previous album.
Ice cube grew up and became a dad😂 how is that selling out?
I might be confused but what is a sellout exactly? Cuz it seems like alot of this was just artists evolving into different flows
Mhm
It is someone who start off as one type of singer, but change themselves to become something different which is not really true to themselves to attract more audience and make more money.
Selling out is basically becoming a commodity or industry hoe. Taylor swift, nicki minaj for example. Metallica almost as much.
+Sitheng Chea You see, I agree 100% with that. So it must just be this list because some of these examples r just ridiculous. The Ice Cube one specifically. Just because he's got comedy movies how has he sold out? What if this is something he always wanted to do you know? Not to mention if this commentator even saw those movies he'd see Cube is still has that same "funny thug" essence. And a clothing line?? Every rapper makes an urban clothing line.
Exactly!
Fall Out Boy. Definitely. From 2003 to 2015 was a huge change. One hiatus, and boom, their sound changed. They've even admitted to selling out.
Yeah, I definitely think that they should have been in the top 5 easily
Agree. I remember when they started appearing on MTV and all of a sudden everyone liked them. But their sound had changed and they were just living off the fan girls. I miss when they made songs like Grand Theft Autumn and Sugar We're Going Down. And then they released shit like This Ain't A Scene and suddenly every girl, even non-alternative ones, just love them and they totally sell out.
They got older, they changed how they sounded because they changed
exactly when did FOB sellout? after the hiatus? because they've never had two albums that sound the same.
+Bob Butts have you listened to Save Rock and Roll, and American Beauty/American Psycho? They changed their sound to be more like mainstream pop. If you listen to FoB before the hiatus, their music is way more heavy with guitar.
Weezer literally has been doing whatever they feel like since the beginning, it’s the complete opposite of selling out. Like why are they even a mention
No one should have hated on Metallica over Napster. Artists deserve to get paid.