The reason butane stoves can be considered “better” is because many “camping stoves” burn too hot and don’t have a decent low control. I have this stove and it allows the same low controlled cooking with propane! I believe it is the ultimate stove I have used it for over a year trouble free
Propane tanks are painted silver/white/off white for a reason, so the tank doesn't heat up from the sun. I know someone who didn't like the white 20lb tank for his grill, so he matched it and painted it black. All was good, until it ran out, and he went to fill it at a propane pump station. The filler refused to fill it.
Hello Bob, I am an Asian American going out for Nomadic life soon. Watching your video, learn so much, preparing. We Asian uses Butane stove for years. Very efficient and easy to use it for indoor and outdoor.
Thanks so much for this demo. I agree with your conclusion. I think I'll try the dual powered stove. I like the size and the ability to use propane or butane both!
I love my Gas One Butane/Propane Stove. When I got my van I wanted something that had a stable base, and didn't have an arm sticking out, so did a lot of researching first and decided on this. I've used this with butane mostly, but I have a one gallon propane bottle to use when I run out of the butane cans I have in stock. My plan is to have a butane bottle or a green bottle as back up to use when the propane runs out (until I get it refilled). It's quick and easy to use. I save gas by putting a shield around my pan, so the pan gets more direct heat, I save on fuel that way (more direct heat). I'll be keeping my 1-gallon propane bottle inside as well, but because I move a lot I'll have to be sure to burn off the propane in the line before I drive anywhere, or pack my stove away. I have had problems with the butane cans in cold weather, if I know its going to be bitter cold, I'll sleep with the butane can. Of course, they all have their individual issues in cold weather. All in all, I like having the choices too, and a stable, light-weight stove that works very well.
Thanks for sharing. This is exactly what I am planning to do. To have a small propane tank, maybe one of the refillable 1 pound propane as well, and I'll buy a set of those butane canisters as well just as a temporary backup in case I run out of the propane.
I first got one of these stoves back in around 96'. I drove truck for 30 years and I found it at a T/A truckstop. It was made by a company called Burton. Loved it. I have two Gas One stoves right now. I retired from trucking, and work part-time as a security guard. I take one to work with me for coffee and food. Works great. I also take them camping with me. The only problem with Butane is if it gets real cold, below 32°, then it won't work. But I think they are great myself.
Bought my Matilda about 6 weeks ago !!! I can remember watching you a couple of years back... and Now I've finally Done It !!! My van is a Mercedes Sprinter 170 wheelbase 1998. Already self converted but I'm changing a few things. Matilda has a full cooker and gas run fridge but for me personally I didn't feel happy with a large bottle, so have decided on this one you're showing. I'll use my oven for storage lol !!! I know I know everyone says the big gas bottles are fine but for me i just didn't feel relaxed with it. Also I'm really not going to be cooking a 6 course dinner, so one ring is fine for me. Might buy 2 just incase the odd time need 2 pans going at the same time. Thanks to YOU, i have my Matilda and when everyone was saying my ideas were stupid, YOU MADE IT SEEM POSSIBLE!!!! Thank You !!! Blessings Mimi
These small stoves are great many brands make identical items in every way One small can of butaingas lasts me 6-7 days for 2 meals a day and 3-4 coffees per day. To acheive this I always keep the gas low and only boil enough water for one coffee at a time. In Asia most people and market traders use this type of stove. They truly are simple and amazing the design can never be bettered and has been around for many years. The paint work always chips easy and flakes off with use but at the end of the day it's a great tool and not bought for its looks. When buying gas in bulk keep to the well known top brands there is many very cheap brands but they always tend to have several faulty tins in each batch. These stoves can be purchased very cheap indeed on Amazon, shop around for a bargain does not matter the brands are the same but the adaptor pipe is an extra. I've used this stove daily for over 3 years.
@@MsLiberty101 adaptors are available on eBay and Amazon to make any bottle fit each other but research which type you will need as there is many different types
Thank you for taking the time to really explain some of this. I have several back packing stoves that I carry when hiking and also have the old coleman camp fuel stove from years and years ago but wanted something newer for my "overlanding" adventures. Your work here on this video helped me very much.
I will definitely remember my armpit when trying to light my propane stove with a lighter I had problems lighting in temperatures around 32 degrees. How kind and patient you are to mention your experiences on the road.
This portable stove is amazing...bought on amazon. It comes with dual connections. I use butane on my patio bc I dont like the smell of Sautee stays in house. Bacon sausages steaks. I just bought it and im in love. Thanks for video👍
Thank you, I’ve been looking for this exact type of stove that I can hook up to my propane tank or use butane. I live in a house unfortunately but practicing for the day I can hit the road. We also have a lot of power outages, hurricanes, storms so this helps prep.
Glad to learn that particular butane stove can also burn propane. I would definitely use both for the same reasons: heating and cooking. Great informative video! Thanks for sharing.
Recently purchased the Gas One stove for hurricane season in Florida. Seems the canisters are now sold in the big box stores, since your video. I will be getting mine from Home Depot. Great video.
Really appreciate this video. Its very clear that storing propane tanks in your rig is unsafe, I personally will never do that after watching this video. Thanks again for all the good information!
My favorite part was at 16:34 "WOW, that's hot!", and then 6x seconds later you pick up the 3x butane bottles and hold them over the flame of the burner as you talk...ROFL!!! Darwin award in progress... Glad you didn't lose anything...You seem like a nice person, and I wish you the best...
Thanks Bob for everything you do. You have a special channel that I love to watch almost every day. I have built my van based on all your videos and other UA-cam videos. The only problem I have with a dual purpose stove is that once you adapt the propane bottle there is no safety mechanism to stop the propane from leaking if the on/ off Nob is slightly moved by accident. Where when you have the butane bottle installed the safety mechanism is built in. Thanks for everything you do
I bought a butane/propane stove to use in my minivan camper. Versatility and compactness sold me on it. I have filled little propane bottles from the tank on the barbecue thus making propane cheaper. Also plan to carry a little alcohol stove. So I should be able to always heat something. Thanks for the video demonstration.
Thank you for the review! I recently purchased the Mini Gas One dual stove for car camping, same stove just smaller. Have not had an opportunity to use it yet, but looking forward.
CheapRVliving - I believe the difference is the size of the case. The mini stove dimensions are 9.6 X 8 X 3.9. The fire ring is 2.5 in. The pan supports look a little smaller, they are just under 6.5 X 6.5 from corner to corner. A reviewer commented that the largest pan it would hold is 8.5 inches. I'm solo so my pot and skillet are only about 6 inches. The item is available on Amazon.
Bob I have a Butane stove like that it is call the camp chef, but it it only burns butane. I will have to get that one now. I am a stove junkie, and love different stoves. My smallest one is the pocket rocket it is for hiking but you still can use it for car camping if you need to. Keep the good videos coming Bob.
Hi there great video , I live in the UK and believe me when I say ours is twice the price of yours. The can you show has a disadvantage of the amount of gas left in the can , The can lasts about 23 minutes and the can will still have about a quarter of gas left in it that can't be used , to me thats a design fault so every four cans you buy you are throwing one away, ive been using them for 16 months and its my biggest gripe.
Iwatani stove have a feature called "heat transfer panel".... to transfer some of the heat from the stove flame to keep the butane can warm, so that you will use up all of the butane gas in the can....interesting design... Look it up.... 👍😊
Great info on the butane stove adapter, i just got a butane stove at aldi for $14.99 and now i plan on getting one of those adapters for propane, thanks for sharing, Mel.
Nice find there with the dual fuel stove model. This is also an excellent stove for emergencies to keep on hand. 2$ a gallon for propane is an amazing price, it is generally about as costly as gasoline or a bit lower, but gas is quite low these days, at least for awhile, but expect that to go up again. At 4 pounds per gallon that's about 50 cents per pound. At $1.50 for an 8oz butane bottle that's about $3 per pound. So there's a 6:1 ratio in cost, but comparing bulk to bottled is a bit of a stretch. With prefilled propane green bottles the ratio is only about 2:1 but of course prices do vary a lot, as does availability as Bob points out. Dual fuel is a useful option (if you can keep track of that separate adapter hose). Propane vaporizes at a much higher pressure, so the green bottles are made from much thicker steel and as such are a much larger contributor of metal waste than the thin, light, lower pressure butane bottles. Both bottles are made of metal which can be recycled. The green bottles can be refilled, however they use a low quality valve that often leaks after refilling (sometimes even before refilling), and Federal rules prohibit transporting refilled one-use propane bottles over state lines. One thing that is very nice about these cartridge style stoves is the lever that disengages the bottle completely when the stove is turned off. So the butane bottle is backed away from the stove inlet and disconnected, controlled by the lever and knob. The lever pushes the canister into the stove, and the knob ejects it when turned to off. There's no screwing on and off and need for expensive propane adapters and hoses. Valves in propane stoves sometimes leak a little, and it is harder to remove the green bottle every time you turn it off, so it can slowly leak down. Another nice feature of the butane canister stove is the excellent flame control. Most propane stoves have very poor adjustments on the flame. The old Coleman stoves were very good, but the new ones (and most other brands) are poor due to the cheap valves they use. The valve is basically on-off and it is difficult to get a low or medium flame. The cartridge butane stoves generally have a large knob with excellent flame control over a longer rotation. For heating water it doesn't matter but for regulating temperature in a pan the control is important. For outdoor use most butane stoves have a very soft low-pressure flame that is blown by the wind. Propane stoves generally have higher pressure flames that are not blown around so easily and are better suited for outdoor use. This is dependent on the stove, rather than the fuel, but in general propane types work much better in a breezy environment. Propane bulk bottles are nice, though there is often a minimum refill fee so refilling bottles smaller than 20 pounds is often not as cheap per pound - you may have to pay for more propane than the bottle will hold due to the minimum fee. Bulk propane bottles are date stamped and need to be re-certified periodically or replaced, so there is ongoing cost there. Fluid ounces and weight ounces are not the same for these fuels (they are less dense than water by about half), so use ounces weight, not fluid ounces which is a volume measurement.
I didn't know they were dated. Silver lining is was going to get a bunch on rebate but was a limited. Smaller propane places quit refilling portable bottles due to regs/expensive remodeling. Some places that refill bottles charge about triple price vs the 150-200 gal min home delivery. I spoke with Pennsylvania oil company and they fill for same costs as bulk, but that area has way higher LP price than where I live. So great to share info. Mark Twain, "why can't countries share technologies". I am a follower of The Venus Project but in my version I feel a smaller/easier new infrastructure change(they say takes only ten years) would be to develop for just the youth(free education for ALL), and free the old to live as they please knowing they will be leaving kids and gran-k with a future. Could you imagine a educated healthy new generation with the tech we (will)have...? Actually compared to the inefficiencies we are slaves to it is hard to imagine where we could be in VERY short order. We need truth, and the sound of silence. Silence because the adjustment would be soo ....different, and the adjustor even more capable.
Alan Biocca where I live propane is pretty cheap..you can refill a 20# bottle for 9.99 In some places and the green bottles can be found 2 for 3 bucks..
Bob, just started watching. My dad and I went in on a camper we can tow, and it's really nice after I did some restoration on some roof leaks/ walls. That and seals that were cheaper to repair than expected. My family really likes camping and it's great for trips because we have pets. I appreciate your channel because of the tips about saving some money and doing things with knowledge. Recently my dad gave me the camper and now it's all mine to do the fun stuff that goes along with travel.
Thanks for the video. I am going with the butane because of limited room in my expediting van and find a deal on the butane bottles. I have a lot of Fillipino, Japanese, Chinese stores near me.
I've had this stove since Aug 16, love it. I got it because of the dual fuel factor and enjoy having that freedom to use what is more avail to me at the time. Thanks for the review.
The wide availability of propane makes it a superior fuel for most people on the road. The fact that you can strap a large tank of it to your vehicle is a massive bonus.
if your camping for a weekend the propane make perfect sense. if you live in a van and use the stove for heating that's another story. depends on the application
thanks bob. it would be great to have a long term review of 12v refrigerators. ive heard various reports of how well they work after a few years. given their costs, its big deal if theyre not reliable.
@@CheapRVliving Yes, a followup review please. In fact, lots more of these van dweller product reviews please. Love your channel. Can't wait to get on the road.
10.31.21 I'm shopping for a stove.... saw the dual fuel one, thought it was a good idea but, I know nothing about the canisters, costs etc...so.... I searched you on UA-cam and you have just explained everything to me in a way that I can easily understand, and you made me giggle too! (Although you also made me gasp when it seemed you were holding 3 canisters of butane over the fire while you were looking at the camera!🤯) Thanks, Bob. You are the BEST!!
After 6 months of running on the bulk propane bottle with a hose adapter to the butane / propane stove through their provided adapter the valve on the provided hose started leaking, 1 bubble per second. First I spelled the propane then checked the hose valve submerged in a bucket of water. The leak was coming through the small pin hole in the red cap part of the valve.
I have an old Coleman 2 burner camp stove that used Coleman fuel. The gas tank failed, so got a propane adapter and used the green bottle. Thanks, will now get the big propane tank adapter and loose the green bottles. Although my Coleman stove is larger, I like having 2 burners and its adjustable wind screen!
Went to Walmart this afternoon. They had several different models of stoves. But they only had the type of fuel and that was the one pound bottles of propane. Makes my choice very easy!
Terrific stuff. I have one of those compact, butane stoves, but have never used it bc I didn't know how and it was a little scary. You made it look so easy!
Wish you had posted this a month ago. I have coleman dual burner stoves, but for my cargo/camper van I purchased a butane stove as it's readily available cheap where I am either from Walmart of Big 5 sporting goods. But the dual makes so much more sense. I like the self lighting, graduated temperature dial and form factor as you mention. Packs away so much neater than my Colman and takes up less space.
Great comparison Bob! Other options are white gas stoves which I grew up with, and a new concept stove called a Biolite. One version of the stove can boil water in under 5 minutes and also charge your cell phone with minimal bio fuel like twigs and sticks or fuel pellets...
Great review Bob! My issue with the green bottles is that the second coming will take place before a green bottle decomposes in a landfill! Just stick to bulk propane.
I had one of the butane stoves before someone stole it out of my Van. Worked pretty well. Some notes to make if I may. 1) Most Asian grocery stores sell the butane bottles, prices are usually pretty good. 2) Some of the burners are painted, some are polished metal. If you buy a polished one usually no problem. If you buy a painted one you may get a weird odor first couple of times as chemicals in paint bake off. Might want to fire it up outside and run it for a bit to burn off any fumes. 3) My stove had the curved bottle cover that stuck up on side. You were limited to about a 7 inch diameter pot or skillet in order to limit the amount of heat reaching bottle. The Gasone stove seems to be flush on top which may allow a larger diameter pan to be used.
Bob as always I appreciate you and your videos. Just started van life and was a little intimidated with finding a cooking and heat source. I purchased the dual gas one and it arrives tomorrow. After watching this video I am confident about which fuel will work best for my needs. Thank you!
Hi all, I guess I'm a little late to this video. Propane is a great fuel but scary to me because it is heavier than air, if there is a leak in a van propane will sit low and not go away naturally, but as soon as any type of spark comes along guess what? BOOM !! I worked as a fleet mechanic to propane stepvans, and you have to be careful with propane.
I love watching your videos, you are so real!! What instructions???? LOL I want to buy one of those models also, the one I have now is a single burner that screws onto the top of a green bottle, making it very high and easy to tip over - it's got to go.
I live in the UK and the Coleman 1lb propane bottle is £12.99 for one, however we do refill them.I would agree with you about the little butane stove their just so simple and easy to use.
Thank you so much for the video. I have a camp here in Maine and I was trying to figure out what kind of stove to buy for the camp. As you know Maine can get W A Y colder than 32 degrees, so looks like butane is out of the question.
I've had my 2 butane stoves since 2007. 10 years and they still work perfectly. Indoor safe. (Crack a window) i use mine in my clipper trailer instead of my propane stove that is installed in the trailer. Only drawback? Butane is not so wonderful in very low temps. 15 degrees and less. Great video Bob!!! (As always) 😀
love the home grown videos. the missus and i are going to be getting started in rv-ing, in the near future. you have given us all a lot of food for thought on the subject of rv-ing. good luck to you sir, and keep up the good work. carry on!!
Thanks for the info. I've been using, and love, the Gasone GS-800 mini butane stove for over a year now. But it's butane-only. Thanks to your video I was curious to see if the Mini had a dual fuel version and lo and behold, they do. Happy days!
I'm a little late to the party, but just bought a Gas One 8,000 BTU dual fuel unit, for the most part because I read a lot of reviews, and this one was the clincher. Thanks Bob, you did a great job. Not only that, but I also watched numerous other of your videos and want to now buy one of those inflatable solar camp lights. One thing to know: 1 gallon generally is 128 ounces. The 4 butane cans total 32 ounces, so 8 cans would only be half a gallon. You'd have to actually buy FOUR (4) of the 4-packs, not two. That would be 16 cans, not eight. This is 2020, and I bought the 4-pack from Amazon for $14 (about $3.50/8oz can), not including tax. I would need 16 cans to make 1 gallon. That would be $56/gallon!!!!!! Just so people know. The GasOne 50140 converter hose (4-feet) is $16.50 on Amazon, and connects the portable stove to a 1-to-20lb propane tank.
Bob, I use alcahol stoves and love them. I have a trangia burner and stove to boil or fry. Propane is my 2nd best. Bob,try out the denatured alcahol stoves,I'm sure you'll love it . Thanks for all your videos.
Great video..you make it sound so much easier..ty..butane canister in Ontario Canada..I paid $10.00 for 1 at Walmart.. I bought the cheap butane stove..$30.00..not knowing there was a difference..tytyty...I will look into buying the dual.stove with adapter.
A 5 gal bottle of propane fits perfectly inside of a plastic milk case. It wont fall over. You can get a brass fitting that refills those green bottles from the 5 gal tank.
Wow, prices have definitely changed in 7 years. Green propane bottles are 2/$10 in my area. I HAVE a 2-burner Coleman propane, and my regulator cracked after 3 months. Replacement $13 at walmart. The control knobs don't work well. They keep upping the flame. Just bought a one-burner butane stove for $20. LOVE it so far. I'll probably keep the Coleman as a backup. It was $40 when I bought it 3 months ago, now $60 😡. The butane stove is way more handy in my RV. $20. I won't be traveling in Temps that cold. Also, butane lasts longer, because it's hotter and cooks faster. In my area, it's $3/canister. I dont cook a bunch. Usually something quick, like chopped chicken, ramen, turkey burger meat, hot coffee or tea, etc.
Thanks, Bob! I have a tiny portable stove that is handy for fishing or for every now and then camping, but on a daily basis unsteady. Either of your stoves seem a reasonable alternative, and I will look further into them.
Great video, I have all the same toys. I had 2 young boys I used to take ice fishing and out on the pontoon in the summer. My boys thought I was the greatest MOM in the world. Now I’m looking for bug out small gear to go on a hike to Central America. Boys are gone and I’m Free!
Hi Bob, I have one of each as well from my camping days. The compact butane is good when travelling light is required. My thoughts are that my propane cooker is much better quality and will far outlast the compact form. There was a serious accident in Aust with the compact and products were recalled. Now they are on sale again with stern instructions not on use a pot or pan bigger than the black frame that turns upside down for storage. I like both of them. However, I have trouble getting a low heat for when I cook a single steak in a 6in frypan. I love the idea of being able to run the compact cooker on propane because I always consider costs as well. I hadn't calculated it lately but was aware the butane is a much more expensive way to cook.. Of course in most of Australia we don't get as cold as you do. In the last few wks I have often thought it would be good if I could pack my other gas cooker in a compact way. I usually find a way but its on hold for me now that My holidays are over for 6 mths. I agree with ALL of your findings! :)
I'd like to know that too. I got the Dual Fuel for use with propane. Had no idea it required a small pan. Must read instructions. Will use metal splatter guard & cover top with heavy layers of foil. Own a Eureka metal table but it sits high. Maybe Ozark brand is lower. Don't want heat rising to roof, big fire hazard.
Space-wise, it seems to take up a similar area as the Coleman. And butane is more expensive and less available, so it's not likely to be the "backup choice". The Coleman probably represents a more reliable and useful device.
I love my butane stove. Simple to use, stable surface for pans, and does not need a match to light. Also comes with a carry case. You can get the butane cans on Amazon about $2/can, sometimes special offers, as you mentioned. Thanks for showing us the new alternative two fuel stove as an option too.
You can build a plywood box around the tank with a lid that latches down on some weather strip, and make some vents in the bottom through the floor, so if anything escapes it will go outdoors.
Good video Bob. I like the green propane bottles because I can refill them for 25 cents or less, and never throw them away, much more eviromentally responsible than butane. Butane does, I believe contain about 10% more btu per gallon however if space or weight is an issue as in if one were hiking
Great to have choices Bob. I use a Coleman 2 burner camp stove which uses liquid lantern fuel and you have to pump it up every time its used no mus no fuss and it packs small and has never failed had it 40 plus years
I got the same one at Walmart tonight too, and two bottles of butane. Nor'easter due Saturday afternoon in Maine where I live, got to be able to perk coffee when the power goes out.
I prefer the propane also since it easier to see the flame no matter the amount of lighting in the area that I use it at. This prevents accidentally laying something unintended on it that could burn (like fabric or body appendages, knowing that the flame is out. I like the way this one done so that even if using the larger propane tank with hose it will fit into a relatively small space. TYVM !
I like this little stove, I think I would use bulk propane and have a couple bottles of butane for a back-up in case the propane runs out. Thank you for the info!
I just ordered one of these gas one stoves after watching your video thanks should be getting it in a day or two. I will be living in a dodge grand caravan. I will use a 5lb (1 gallon) mini tank in the van and use that for the bulk of my cooking. Will only use butane or the 1lb green bottles for convenience on occasion. Thanks for the good review!
I love you ❤. (Like everyone else who isn't jealous. Love you spirituality, love your light. I mostly watch just to spend time with your sweet spirit. Lol. As a great cook my self and camper, lol, ageing out at 61 , Not, I enjoy your experiments.
The reason butane stoves can be considered “better” is because many “camping stoves” burn too hot and don’t have a decent low control. I have this stove and it allows the same low controlled cooking with propane! I believe it is the ultimate stove I have used it for over a year trouble free
Propane tanks are painted silver/white/off white for a reason, so the tank doesn't heat up from the sun. I know someone who didn't like the white 20lb tank for his grill, so he matched it and painted it black. All was good, until it ran out, and he went to fill it at a propane pump station. The filler refused to fill it.
Hello Bob, I am an Asian American going out for Nomadic life soon. Watching your video, learn so much, preparing.
We Asian uses Butane stove for years. Very efficient and easy to use it for indoor and outdoor.
oh thank you. I'm going to be living in my car soon. I know nothing. you are going to be my teacher. please keep the videos coming. GOD Bless
Karen, you might also want to check out my website and forum at cheaprvliving.com
Thank you for the education. I just ordered a gas one stove that burns with isobutane.
Thanks so much for this demo. I agree with your conclusion. I think I'll try the dual powered stove. I like the size and the ability to use propane or butane both!
I love my Gas One Butane/Propane Stove. When I got my van I wanted something that had a stable base, and didn't have an arm sticking out, so did a lot of researching first and decided on this. I've used this with butane mostly, but I have a one gallon propane bottle to use when I run out of the butane cans I have in stock. My plan is to have a butane bottle or a green bottle as back up to use when the propane runs out (until I get it refilled). It's quick and easy to use. I save gas by putting a shield around my pan, so the pan gets more direct heat, I save on fuel that way (more direct heat). I'll be keeping my 1-gallon propane bottle inside as well, but because I move a lot I'll have to be sure to burn off the propane in the line before I drive anywhere, or pack my stove away. I have had problems with the butane cans in cold weather, if I know its going to be bitter cold, I'll sleep with the butane can. Of course, they all have their individual issues in cold weather. All in all, I like having the choices too, and a stable, light-weight stove that works very well.
Thanks for sharing your real life experience with the stove!
Thanks for sharing. This is exactly what I am planning to do. To have a small propane tank, maybe one of the refillable 1 pound propane as well, and I'll buy a set of those butane canisters as well just as a temporary backup in case I run out of the propane.
I first got one of these stoves back in around 96'. I drove truck for 30 years and I found it at a T/A truckstop. It was made by a company called Burton. Loved it. I have two Gas One stoves right now. I retired from trucking, and work part-time as a security guard. I take one to work with me for coffee and food. Works great. I also take them camping with me. The only problem with Butane is if it gets real cold, below 32°, then it won't work. But I think they are great myself.
Bought my Matilda about 6 weeks ago !!! I can remember watching you a couple of years back... and Now I've finally Done It !!! My van is a Mercedes Sprinter 170 wheelbase 1998. Already self converted but I'm changing a few things. Matilda has a full cooker and gas run fridge but for me personally I didn't feel happy with a large bottle, so have decided on this one you're showing. I'll use my oven for storage lol !!! I know I know everyone says the big gas bottles are fine but for me i just didn't feel relaxed with it. Also I'm really not going to be cooking a 6 course dinner, so one ring is fine for me. Might buy 2 just incase the odd time need 2 pans going at the same time. Thanks to YOU, i have my Matilda and when everyone was saying my ideas were stupid, YOU MADE IT SEEM POSSIBLE!!!! Thank You !!! Blessings Mimi
These small stoves are great many brands make identical items in every way One small can of butaingas lasts me 6-7 days for 2 meals a day and 3-4 coffees per day. To acheive this I always keep the gas low and only boil enough water for one coffee at a time. In Asia most people and market traders use this type of stove. They truly are simple and amazing the design can never be bettered and has been around for many years. The paint work always chips easy and flakes off with use but at the end of the day it's a great tool and not bought for its looks. When buying gas in bulk keep to the well known top brands there is many very cheap brands but they always tend to have several faulty tins in each batch. These stoves can be purchased very cheap indeed on Amazon, shop around for a bargain does not matter the brands are the same but the adaptor pipe is an extra. I've used this stove daily for over 3 years.
Are the butane bottles interchangeable?...I have coleman butane but not a Coleman stove..
@@MsLiberty101 adaptors are available on eBay and Amazon to make any bottle fit each other but research which type you will need as there is many different types
Thank you for taking the time to really explain some of this. I have several back packing stoves that I carry when hiking and also have the old coleman camp fuel stove from years and years ago but wanted something newer for my "overlanding" adventures. Your work here on this video helped me very much.
you are so awesome Bob.
you are helping so many people.
Thanks for watching Richard, I appreciate your kind words.
Gosh, this channel is definitely one of my very favorite 🤗 This guy👍
I will definitely remember my armpit when trying to light my propane stove with a lighter I had problems lighting in temperatures around 32 degrees. How kind and patient you are to mention your experiences on the road.
This portable stove is amazing...bought on amazon. It comes with dual connections. I use butane on my patio bc I dont like the smell of Sautee stays in house. Bacon sausages steaks. I just bought it and im in love. Thanks for video👍
I have Learned so much from watching your videos, Bob. Thank you so much for having this channel.
Thank you, I’ve been looking for this exact type of stove that I can hook up to my propane tank or use butane. I live in a house unfortunately but practicing for the day I can hit the road. We also have a lot of power outages, hurricanes, storms so this helps prep.
Thanks for this video. I'm getting ready to buy one of these stoves and I didn't know the difference between butane and propane.
Glad to learn that particular butane stove can also burn propane. I would definitely use both for the same reasons: heating and cooking. Great informative video! Thanks for sharing.
I'm so glad you showed your mini propane cylinder option that's refillable. I just bought a 5lb flame king for camping
Thank you! I'm currently vacillating between the very same burners you're showing
Recently purchased the Gas One stove for hurricane season in Florida. Seems the canisters are now sold in the big box stores, since your video. I will be getting mine from Home Depot. Great video.
Really appreciate this video. Its very clear that storing propane tanks in your rig is unsafe, I personally will never do that after watching this video. Thanks again for all the good information!
Thank you for the broadcast I hope the butner lived up to the expectations because I'm getting ready to buy one!
My favorite part was at 16:34 "WOW, that's hot!", and then 6x seconds later you pick up the 3x butane bottles and hold them over the flame of the burner as you talk...ROFL!!! Darwin award in progress...
Glad you didn't lose anything...You seem like a nice person, and I wish you the best...
Thanks Bob for everything you do. You have a special channel that I love to watch almost every day. I have built my van based on all your videos and other UA-cam videos. The only problem I have with a dual purpose stove is that once you adapt the propane bottle there is no safety mechanism to stop the propane from leaking if the on/ off Nob is slightly moved by accident. Where when you have the butane bottle installed the safety mechanism is built in. Thanks for everything you do
Propane does require a little more attention Roy, thanks for watching!
I bought a butane/propane stove to use in my minivan camper. Versatility and compactness sold me on it. I have filled little propane bottles from the tank on the barbecue thus making propane cheaper. Also plan to carry a little alcohol stove. So I should be able to always heat something. Thanks for the video demonstration.
Thank you for sharing the stoves, we just bought a hilltop butane one burner and can’t wait to try it out.
Thank you for the review! I recently purchased the Mini Gas One dual stove for car camping, same stove just smaller. Have not had an opportunity to use it yet, but looking forward.
Is the fire ring smaller or just the case?
CheapRVliving - I believe the difference is the size of the case. The mini stove dimensions are 9.6 X 8 X 3.9. The fire ring is 2.5 in. The pan supports look a little smaller, they are just under 6.5 X 6.5 from corner to corner. A reviewer commented that the largest pan it would hold is 8.5 inches. I'm solo so my pot and skillet are only about 6 inches. The item is available on Amazon.
I fellowed your instructions and it works like charm. Thanks again!!!
Bob I have a Butane stove like that it is call the camp chef, but it it only burns butane. I will have to get that one now. I am a stove junkie, and love different stoves. My smallest one is the pocket rocket it is for hiking but you still can use it for car camping if you need to. Keep the good videos coming Bob.
Hi there great video , I live in the UK and believe me when I say ours is twice the price of yours. The can you show has a disadvantage of the amount of gas left in the can , The can lasts about 23 minutes and the can will still have about a quarter of gas left in it that can't be used , to me thats a design fault so every four cans you buy you are throwing one away, ive been using them for 16 months and its my biggest gripe.
Thanks
Iwatani stove have a feature called "heat transfer panel".... to transfer some of the heat from the stove flame to keep the butane can warm, so that you will use up all of the butane gas in the can....interesting design... Look it up.... 👍😊
You’re fun as hell brotha. Thanks for the vid
Great info on the butane stove adapter, i just got a butane stove at aldi for $14.99 and now i plan on getting one of those adapters for propane, thanks for sharing, Mel.
"it'll eventually break"... (throws it on the ground) best laugh all day! thanks
7:56 this part as well 😂
Nice find there with the dual fuel stove model. This is also an excellent stove for emergencies to keep on hand.
2$ a gallon for propane is an amazing price, it is generally about as costly as gasoline or a bit lower, but gas is quite low these days, at least for awhile, but expect that to go up again. At 4 pounds per gallon that's about 50 cents per pound. At $1.50 for an 8oz butane bottle that's about $3 per pound. So there's a 6:1 ratio in cost, but comparing bulk to bottled is a bit of a stretch. With prefilled propane green bottles the ratio is only about 2:1 but of course prices do vary a lot, as does availability as Bob points out. Dual fuel is a useful option (if you can keep track of that separate adapter hose).
Propane vaporizes at a much higher pressure, so the green bottles are made from much thicker steel and as such are a much larger contributor of metal waste than the thin, light, lower pressure butane bottles. Both bottles are made of metal which can be recycled. The green bottles can be refilled, however they use a low quality valve that often leaks after refilling (sometimes even before refilling), and Federal rules prohibit transporting refilled one-use propane bottles over state lines.
One thing that is very nice about these cartridge style stoves is the lever that disengages the bottle completely when the stove is turned off. So the butane bottle is backed away from the stove inlet and disconnected, controlled by the lever and knob. The lever pushes the canister into the stove, and the knob ejects it when turned to off. There's no screwing on and off and need for expensive propane adapters and hoses. Valves in propane stoves sometimes leak a little, and it is harder to remove the green bottle every time you turn it off, so it can slowly leak down.
Another nice feature of the butane canister stove is the excellent flame control. Most propane stoves have very poor adjustments on the flame. The old Coleman stoves were very good, but the new ones (and most other brands) are poor due to the cheap valves they use. The valve is basically on-off and it is difficult to get a low or medium flame. The cartridge butane stoves generally have a large knob with excellent flame control over a longer rotation. For heating water it doesn't matter but for regulating temperature in a pan the control is important.
For outdoor use most butane stoves have a very soft low-pressure flame that is blown by the wind. Propane stoves generally have higher pressure flames that are not blown around so easily and are better suited for outdoor use. This is dependent on the stove, rather than the fuel, but in general propane types work much better in a breezy environment.
Propane bulk bottles are nice, though there is often a minimum refill fee so refilling bottles smaller than 20 pounds is often not as cheap per pound - you may have to pay for more propane than the bottle will hold due to the minimum fee. Bulk propane bottles are date stamped and need to be re-certified periodically or replaced, so there is ongoing cost there.
Fluid ounces and weight ounces are not the same for these fuels (they are less dense than water by about half), so use ounces weight, not fluid ounces which is a volume measurement.
Thanks for posting Alan!
I didn't know they were dated. Silver lining is was going to get a bunch on rebate but was a limited. Smaller propane places quit refilling portable bottles due to regs/expensive remodeling. Some places that refill bottles charge about triple price vs the 150-200 gal min home delivery. I spoke with Pennsylvania oil company and they fill for same costs as bulk, but that area has way higher LP price than where I live. So great to share info. Mark Twain, "why can't countries share technologies". I am a follower of The Venus Project but in my version I feel a smaller/easier new infrastructure change(they say takes only ten years) would be to develop for just the youth(free education for ALL), and free the old to live as they please knowing they will be leaving kids and gran-k with a future. Could you imagine a educated healthy new generation with the tech we (will)have...? Actually compared to the inefficiencies we are slaves to it is hard to imagine where we could be in VERY short order. We need truth, and the sound of silence. Silence because the adjustment would be soo ....different, and the adjustor even more capable.
Alan Biocca where I live propane is pretty cheap..you can refill a 20# bottle for 9.99 In some places and the green bottles can be found 2 for 3 bucks..
I'd love to see the follow-up on this stove & how it worked for your friend. Seems great with with the dual fuel option.
Bob, just started watching. My dad and I went in on a camper we can tow, and it's really nice after I did some restoration on some roof leaks/ walls. That and seals that were cheaper to repair than expected. My family really likes camping and it's great for trips because we have pets. I appreciate your channel because of the tips about saving some money and doing things with knowledge. Recently my dad gave me the camper and now it's all mine to do the fun stuff that goes along with travel.
Thanks for the video. I am going with the butane because of limited room in my expediting van and find a deal on the butane bottles. I have a lot of Fillipino, Japanese, Chinese stores near me.
Bob - I struggle even after reading the instructions. Keep up the great videos. 😁
Hahaha sometimes they make it even more confusing.
I've had this stove since Aug 16, love it. I got it because of the dual fuel factor and enjoy having that freedom to use what is more avail to me at the time. Thanks for the review.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the stove.
I'm glad I found this video! It's amazing that it accepts propane!
What a great cooker the butane one is, being so adaptable, wins hands down. Thanks Bob 😄🙏🏾👏🏽👏🏽👍🏾😀👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
The wide availability of propane makes it a superior fuel for most people on the road. The fact that you can strap a large tank of it to your vehicle is a massive bonus.
It is. For some people, especially car campers the severe lack of space is what makes butane the more attractive option.
if your camping for a weekend the propane make perfect sense. if you live in a van and use the stove for heating that's another story. depends on the application
thanks bob. it would be great to have a long term review of 12v refrigerators. ive heard various reports of how well they work after a few years. given their costs, its big deal if theyre not reliable.
Thanks for the idea Radnally.
@@CheapRVliving Yes, a followup review please. In fact, lots more of these van dweller product reviews please.
Love your channel. Can't wait to get on the road.
10.31.21 I'm shopping for a stove.... saw the dual fuel one, thought it was a good idea but, I know nothing about the canisters, costs etc...so.... I searched you on UA-cam and you have just explained everything to me in a way that I can easily understand, and you made me giggle too!
(Although you also made me gasp when it seemed you were holding 3 canisters of butane over the fire while you were looking at the camera!🤯)
Thanks, Bob. You are the BEST!!
After 6 months of running on the bulk propane bottle with a hose adapter to the butane / propane stove through their provided adapter the valve on the provided hose started leaking, 1 bubble per second. First I spelled the propane then checked the hose valve submerged in a bucket of water. The leak was coming through the small pin hole in the red cap part of the valve.
I have an old Coleman 2 burner camp stove that used Coleman fuel. The gas tank failed, so got a propane adapter and used the green bottle. Thanks, will now get the big propane tank adapter and loose the green bottles.
Although my Coleman stove is larger, I like having 2 burners and its adjustable wind screen!
Thank you Bob! I saw it @ Walmart and was wondering about them! Great review, now I understand.
Went to Walmart this afternoon. They had several different models of stoves. But they only had the type of fuel and that was the one pound bottles of propane. Makes my choice very easy!
Helpful video Mr Bob! I like to cook for free with wood on a camping stove. I do have a propane stove for backup.
Terrific stuff. I have one of those compact, butane stoves, but have never used it bc I didn't know how and it was a little scary. You made it look so easy!
Thank you for taking time to show us how to connect everything!
Wish you had posted this a month ago. I have coleman dual burner stoves, but for my cargo/camper van I purchased a butane stove as it's readily available cheap where I am either from Walmart of Big 5 sporting goods. But the dual makes so much more sense.
I like the self lighting, graduated temperature dial and form factor as you mention. Packs away so much neater than my Colman and takes up less space.
Thanks for posting your experience. Are you close to an urban center?
Great comparison Bob! Other options are white gas stoves which I grew up with, and a new concept stove called a Biolite. One version of the stove can boil water in under 5 minutes and also charge your cell phone with minimal bio fuel like twigs and sticks or fuel pellets...
Jerry have you used a Biolite or know someone who could share their experience with one? Sounds interesting
Great review Bob! My issue with the green bottles is that the second coming will take place before a green bottle decomposes in a landfill! Just stick to bulk propane.
I did that , could not believe how easy it was.
Refill them. Duh.
Ability to use both certainly makes it worthwhile. Thanks.
I had one of the butane stoves before someone stole it out of my Van. Worked pretty well. Some notes to make if I may.
1) Most Asian grocery stores sell the butane bottles, prices are usually pretty good.
2) Some of the burners are painted, some are polished metal. If you buy a polished one usually no problem. If you buy a painted one you may get a weird odor first couple of times as chemicals in paint bake off. Might want to fire it up outside and run it for a bit to burn off any fumes.
3) My stove had the curved bottle cover that stuck up on side. You were limited to about a 7 inch diameter pot or skillet in order to limit the amount of heat reaching bottle. The Gasone stove seems to be flush on top which may allow a larger diameter pan to be used.
Gonna be buying this and hooking up to my 20 lb propane to stir fry with. Thanks for the demo. Was thinking this would work and now I have proof
Bob as always I appreciate you and your videos. Just started van life and was a little intimidated with finding a cooking and heat source. I purchased the dual gas one and it arrives tomorrow. After watching this video I am confident about which fuel will work best for my needs. Thank you!
Love it
Hi all, I guess I'm a little late to this video. Propane is a great fuel but scary to me because it is heavier than air, if there is a leak in a van propane will sit low and not go away naturally, but as soon as any type of spark comes along guess what? BOOM !! I worked as a fleet mechanic to propane stepvans, and you have to be careful with propane.
Great Video Bob. Love these instructional type videos. You have changed my mind on which stove to use with my van build. thanks
Glad it helped!
That confirms it! It would work for me initially with the ability to upgrade in a different set up!
I love watching your videos, you are so real!! What instructions???? LOL I want to buy one of those models also, the one I have now is a single burner that screws onto the top of a green bottle, making it very high and easy to tip over - it's got to go.
Most people that start out with stoves like yours find that to be true Janice.
I live in the UK and the Coleman 1lb propane bottle is £12.99 for one, however we do refill them.I would agree with you about the little butane stove their just so simple and easy to use.
Thank you so much for the video. I have a camp here in Maine and I was trying to figure out what kind of stove to buy for the camp. As you know Maine can get W A Y colder than 32 degrees, so looks like butane is out of the question.
Helpful video--Was leaning toward the dual stove but now see that propane's the way to go. Thanks!
I've had my 2 butane stoves since 2007. 10 years and they still work perfectly. Indoor safe. (Crack a window) i use mine in my clipper trailer instead of my propane stove that is installed in the trailer.
Only drawback? Butane is not so wonderful in very low temps. 15 degrees and less.
Great video Bob!!! (As always) 😀
Thanks for sharing your experience MW, a lot of people really like them.
love the home grown videos. the missus and i are going to be getting started in rv-ing, in the near future. you have given us all a lot of food for thought on the subject of rv-ing. good luck to you sir, and keep up the good work.
carry on!!
Thanks for the info. I've been using, and love, the Gasone GS-800 mini butane stove for over a year now. But it's butane-only. Thanks to your video I was curious to see if the Mini had a dual fuel version and lo and behold, they do. Happy days!
I'm a little late to the party, but just bought a Gas One 8,000 BTU dual fuel unit, for the most part because I read a lot of reviews, and this one was the clincher. Thanks Bob, you did a great job. Not only that, but I also watched numerous other of your videos and want to now buy one of those inflatable solar camp lights.
One thing to know: 1 gallon generally is 128 ounces. The 4 butane cans total 32 ounces, so 8 cans would only be half a gallon. You'd have to actually buy FOUR (4) of the 4-packs, not two. That would be 16 cans, not eight.
This is 2020, and I bought the 4-pack from Amazon for $14 (about $3.50/8oz can), not including tax. I would need 16 cans to make 1 gallon. That would be $56/gallon!!!!!! Just so people know. The GasOne 50140 converter hose (4-feet) is $16.50 on Amazon, and connects the portable stove to a 1-to-20lb propane tank.
Wow, a real game changer stove..
Bob, I use alcahol stoves and love them. I have a trangia burner and stove to boil or fry. Propane is my 2nd best. Bob,try out the denatured alcahol stoves,I'm sure you'll love it . Thanks for all your videos.
Great video..you make it sound so much easier..ty..butane canister in Ontario Canada..I paid $10.00 for 1 at Walmart.. I bought the cheap butane stove..$30.00..not knowing there was a difference..tytyty...I will look into buying the dual.stove with adapter.
A 5 gal bottle of propane fits perfectly inside of a plastic milk case. It wont fall over. You can get a brass fitting that refills those green bottles from the 5 gal tank.
Wow, prices have definitely changed in 7 years. Green propane bottles are 2/$10 in my area. I HAVE a 2-burner Coleman propane, and my regulator cracked after 3 months. Replacement $13 at walmart. The control knobs don't work well. They keep upping the flame. Just bought a one-burner butane stove for $20. LOVE it so far. I'll probably keep the Coleman as a backup. It was $40 when I bought it 3 months ago, now $60 😡. The butane stove is way more handy in my RV. $20. I won't be traveling in Temps that cold. Also, butane lasts longer, because it's hotter and cooks faster. In my area, it's $3/canister. I dont cook a bunch. Usually something quick, like chopped chicken, ramen, turkey burger meat, hot coffee or tea, etc.
Thanks, Bob! I have a tiny portable stove that is handy for fishing or for every now and then camping, but on a daily basis unsteady. Either of your stoves seem a reasonable alternative, and I will look further into them.
These are reliable daily stoves Cathy.
Thanks, Bob.
I did not know it came with dual fuel thought it was only butane.This is the ideal stove.Great video
To clarify they just started making these with dual fuel adaptors.
This is just perfect as I just ordered one of these and its due to arrive on Saturday! Got my Camco toilet today. Thank you!!
That's great Chelsea!
Great video, I have all the same toys. I had 2 young boys I used to take ice fishing and out on the pontoon in the summer. My boys thought I was the greatest MOM in the world. Now I’m looking for bug out small gear to go on a hike to Central America. Boys are gone and I’m Free!
Hi Bob, I have one of each as well from my camping days. The compact butane is good when travelling light is required. My thoughts are that my propane cooker is much better quality and will far outlast the compact form. There was a serious accident in Aust with the compact and products were recalled. Now they are on sale again with stern instructions not on use a pot or pan bigger than the black frame that turns upside down for storage. I like both of them. However, I have trouble getting a low heat for when I cook a single steak in a 6in frypan. I love the idea of being able to run the compact cooker on propane because I always consider costs as well. I hadn't calculated it lately but was aware the butane is a much more expensive way to cook.. Of course in most of Australia we don't get as cold as you do. In the last few wks I have often thought it would be good if I could pack my other gas cooker in a compact way. I usually find a way but its on hold for me now that My holidays are over for 6 mths.
I agree with ALL of your findings! :)
How big of a pot were they using to cause an accident? The case is slim but wide enough for most common cookware.
I'd like to know that too. I got the Dual Fuel for use with propane. Had no idea it required a small pan. Must read instructions. Will use metal splatter guard & cover top with heavy layers of foil. Own a Eureka metal table but it sits high. Maybe Ozark brand is lower. Don't want heat rising to roof, big fire hazard.
Space-wise, it seems to take up a similar area as the Coleman. And butane is more expensive and less available, so it's not likely to be the "backup choice". The Coleman probably represents a more reliable and useful device.
Butane cans are small enough to keep a few anywhere you could store a water bottle.
The butane one on vrty low makes a great heater. Butane is a heavier than air has and can be swept out of the trailer. Our 1966 camper used butane.
I finally bought a butane stove, the same one actually and it came with butane. I am actually going to start using it for safety reasons.
Love you Bob...who reads instructions. Right?
I love my butane stove. Simple to use, stable surface for pans, and does not need a match to light. Also comes with a carry case. You can get the butane cans on Amazon about $2/can, sometimes special offers, as you mentioned. Thanks for showing us the new alternative two fuel stove as an option too.
Thanks for posting Kathy!
You can build a plywood box around the tank with a lid that latches down on some weather strip, and make some vents in the bottom through the floor, so if anything escapes it will go outdoors.
Good video Bob. I like the green propane bottles because I can refill them for 25 cents or less, and never throw them away, much more eviromentally responsible than butane. Butane does, I believe contain about 10% more btu per gallon however if space or weight is an issue as in if one were hiking
And make sure when you cook do not put pans that cover the canister
Thanks Bob! One more idea in your GUIDE to survive.Blessings.
Great to have choices Bob. I use a Coleman 2 burner camp stove which uses liquid lantern fuel and you have to pump it up every time its used no mus no fuss and it packs small and has never failed had it 40 plus years
That's proven reliability Joseph!
Got my Coleman Butane Stove today at Walmart for just under $20, great deal!
I got the same one at Walmart tonight too, and two bottles of butane. Nor'easter due Saturday afternoon in Maine where I live, got to be able to perk coffee when the power goes out.
I prefer the propane also since it easier to see the flame no matter the amount of lighting in the area that I use it at. This prevents accidentally laying something unintended on it that could burn (like fabric or body appendages, knowing that the flame is out. I like the way this one done so that even if using the larger propane tank with hose it will fit into a relatively small space. TYVM !
I like this little stove, I think I would use bulk propane and have a couple bottles of butane for a back-up in case the propane runs out. Thank you for the info!
I love the Choice. Thank you for your years of experience.
I love all of your videos Bob. Especially the RTR videos!
very interesting in how to utilize the different bottes , very informative and just wanted to say I really like your videos, 💕 😇 ☮ Kellie
Thank you Kellie, it's my pleasure.
I just ordered one of these gas one stoves after watching your video thanks should be getting it in a day or two. I will be living in a dodge grand caravan. I will use a 5lb (1 gallon) mini tank in the van and use that for the bulk of my cooking. Will only use butane or the 1lb green bottles for convenience on occasion. Thanks for the good review!
I love you ❤. (Like everyone else who isn't jealous. Love you spirituality, love your light. I mostly watch just to spend time with your sweet spirit. Lol. As a great cook my self and camper, lol, ageing out at 61 , Not, I enjoy your experiments.
the dual fuel stove looks good but I agree with you that propane is the way to go , keep on trucking! Dave!
Happy trails Dave!
very cool i like the idea that you can use three different kinds of bottles with that stove . they got a hit here that is for sure. great video