ONE plant - just one Bob Gordon Elderberry. she was only 5 foot tall plant in 2020! no fertilizer - just great soil! not all Elderberry are equal. this Bob Gordon is far more vigorous than the Johns. both are in the American Elderberry (Sambucus canadensis) family. we also grow the European species (Sambucus nigra), and North American natives, the Blue Elderberry (Sambucus mexicana) and Red (Sambucus racemosa). but no Elderberry grows like the Bob Gordon!
glad the vid helped; yup, side-by-side, the once little Bob Gordon is overwhelmingly huge, compared to the Johns. i'm planting a rare Red and Blue Elderberry far from the garden, along a stream bank. just don't know how crazy they'll grow! thanks for stopping by, plz subscribe, and see you in the garden! 🐞
Thank you for this video. I bought a bob gordon and johns to plant. This made me change the location I originally had planned on. Great info, 6:39 and thanks for the visuals.
great timing on your part! i'm in the process of removing masses of bob gordon roots out; game-planning how to contain it to its area; VERY risky placing this plant in the middle of a garden with organically rich soil. the johns spread a little. BUT, it may not be a cultivar issue too. so be aware. if i were to plant them again, they'd be on the margin of a garden. that's my $0.02.
Great look at elderberry, the rampant Bob Gordon in particular. Deer would keep the suckers and bush trimmed back, ironically. Though it can be a battle to get bushes established in the first place where deer are.
@@RobertMay-u8s yes, a 4' liner ought to be plenty deep. I planned to do that too because of her location. My Bod Gordon is spreading left and right! The key, I hope, is for others to learn from this vid and not to plant one in the middle of their garden like dummy me 👩🌾🤣🤓😎
@jjm6187 i don't know the varieties well enough to give you a credible answer :/. There's also the Blue and Red Elderberries so for color (not food), that may be a interesting color contrast. hope that helped a little....
Do you know how vigorous an Adams elderberry is, just dropped a starter next to my house to use as medicine and to block wind whipping around the corner, I was told they are helpful for that. I live in Georgia zone 8 Thank you 😊
@blaqfish i have no experience with the Adams; the Bob G was wicked enough. Instead I planted Red, Blue and Lace Elderberries to see what they do :). I'm done with the Black ones for now.... good question and thanks for stopping by!
@@heppylifestyleI was told Adams was a good grower for Georgia so I’ll know next year but all that you have going on there, hoping I can keep mine tame Fingers crossed Thanks for your help. Fantastic content
I have 2yr old John, Adam, negra elderberry plants. It has been growing strong. However,recently I found out something has eaten up most of the leaves. How do I stop this? thank you !
@alhambra119 i'm sorry to hear that. you'll have to identify the critter, eg, type of insect. my Elderberry have no predation so i haven't looked further. on the other hand, i set-up a game cam to ID the critter eating Mulberry leaves. a squirrel 🥴😧
I need a "big ass" screen. My american black elderberry grew from bareroot purchased from cold stream nursery in MI. Dont know cultivar. Not too vigorous. Planting lots of cuttings - can pull some if too many.
gonna need an upgrade on that screen 🤣 because i didn't do what i said i'd do ... and she's bigger and wider! some are not vigorous -- our Johns seem 'normal'. the Bob Gordan is ... a big ass plant 😂
ONE plant - just one Bob Gordon Elderberry. she was only 5 foot tall plant in 2020! no fertilizer - just great soil!
not all Elderberry are equal. this Bob Gordon is far more vigorous than the Johns. both are in the American Elderberry (Sambucus canadensis) family.
we also grow the European species (Sambucus nigra), and North American natives, the Blue Elderberry (Sambucus mexicana) and Red (Sambucus racemosa).
but no Elderberry grows like the Bob Gordon!
Thanks for heads up on the Bob Gordon 🙏
glad the vid helped; yup, side-by-side, the once little Bob Gordon is overwhelmingly huge, compared to the Johns.
i'm planting a rare Red and Blue Elderberry far from the garden, along a stream bank. just don't know how crazy they'll grow!
thanks for stopping by, plz subscribe, and see you in the garden! 🐞
Just got a half dozen Bob Gordon and the same of Adams, looks like the early Johns sounds like what I need.
Thank you for this video. I bought a bob gordon and johns to plant. This made me change the location I originally had planned on. Great info, 6:39 and thanks for the visuals.
great timing on your part! i'm in the process of removing masses of bob gordon roots out; game-planning how to contain it to its area; VERY risky placing this plant in the middle of a garden with organically rich soil.
the johns spread a little.
BUT, it may not be a cultivar issue too. so be aware.
if i were to plant them again, they'd be on the margin of a garden. that's my $0.02.
Great look at elderberry, the rampant Bob Gordon in particular. Deer would keep the suckers and bush trimmed back, ironically. Though it can be a battle to get bushes established in the first place where deer are.
Damn deer :). They tore the place up (probably don't need to tell u).
Thanks for stopping by!
pete moss
I'm growing Marge. Heard that's the new beast in town!
Thanks for the feedback; I'm curious about how it spreads. My Bob Gordon is spreading like crazy! 🧑🏼🌾
Thank You
Can I add a 4 foot deep plastic sono tube prior tlanting the elder berry bush? To stop the spread of root growth.
@@RobertMay-u8s yes, a 4' liner ought to be plenty deep.
I planned to do that too because of her location. My Bod Gordon is spreading left and right!
The key, I hope, is for others to learn from this vid and not to plant one in the middle of their garden like dummy me 👩🌾🤣🤓😎
What variety would you recommend for a hedge/block to pair with Bob Gordon?
@jjm6187 i don't know the varieties well enough to give you a credible answer :/.
There's also the Blue and Red Elderberries so for color (not food), that may be a interesting color contrast.
hope that helped a little....
Wondering what variety will flower at same time for cross pollination. Any ideas?
The Johns flowers at about the same time, and that's all I can sincerely speak to.
More info and resources are here, heppy.org/elderberry.
Enjoy!
@@heppylifestyle Thanks!
Do you know how vigorous an Adams elderberry is, just dropped a starter next to my house to use as medicine and to block wind whipping around the corner, I was told they are helpful for that. I live in Georgia zone 8 Thank you 😊
@blaqfish i have no experience with the Adams; the Bob G was wicked enough. Instead I planted Red, Blue and Lace Elderberries to see what they do :). I'm done with the Black ones for now....
good question and thanks for stopping by!
@@heppylifestyleI was told Adams was a good grower for Georgia so I’ll know next year but all that you have going on there, hoping I can keep mine tame
Fingers crossed
Thanks for your help. Fantastic content
@@blaqfish Adams is well-mentioned in many credible sources like the University of Missouri. Adams is one of the first cultivars and still popular!
I have 2yr old John, Adam, negra elderberry plants. It has been growing strong. However,recently I found out something has eaten up most of the leaves. How do I stop this? thank you !
@alhambra119 i'm sorry to hear that. you'll have to identify the critter, eg, type of insect.
my Elderberry have no predation so i haven't looked further.
on the other hand, i set-up a game cam to ID the critter eating Mulberry leaves. a squirrel 🥴😧
Thank u so much for the reply! I appreciate it.
I need a "big ass" screen. My american black elderberry grew from bareroot purchased from cold stream nursery in MI. Dont know cultivar. Not too vigorous. Planting lots of cuttings - can pull some if too many.
gonna need an upgrade on that screen 🤣 because i didn't do what i said i'd do ... and she's bigger and wider!
some are not vigorous -- our Johns seem 'normal'. the Bob Gordan is ... a big ass plant 😂