Could be true. It would be a disaster if he was traded and then the corner infield was Vientos and somebody else playing first or third because Alonso/Bregman didn’t sign and Baty was dealt.
If Brett Batty is our third basemen, we’re not a World Series contender! We can’t have a Swiss cheese bat in centerfield and a Swiss cheese bat at third base and then say oh yeah we’re contenders! We don’t need a career 222 average at third base and a career 210 average in centerfield and then say we’re contenders
....JUST SAYING BUT WHY KEEP TRYING TO FIX WHAT AIN'T BROKE IF HAVING STAYED WITH IGLESIAS, WINKER AND J.D. THE TURNING OF THE METS STRIDE THROUGH THE SEASON WOULD BE BETTER.
No reason tonmove him now, hold on and see what you have. If he doesn't work out, include him in a mid season trade for an arm that we'll need deeper in the season.
I agree with getting rid of McNeil. He's going to be 33 this season, and he's coming off of a subpar season. If one or more of the kids shine in spring training, I trade McNeil and eat 10 mil of his contract.
Brett Baty should be part of a midyear package to the Rangers for Kumar Rocker, to the Pirates for Ke'Bryan Hayes, to the Orioles for Cedric Mullins, or to the Yanks for Jazz Chisholm, Jr.
Hold on and see if he has an excellent spring training. If he's amazing you can use him and if he Isn't going to be in Mets plans he still becomes a better trade chip than he is right now. Can you imagine if he turned out to be another Vientos just a little bit of a late bloomer that would put the Mets in a great position on the field and financial flexibility too.
I think u used to speak of Vientos in thw same vein. Some take time to figure it out. He has made nice strides and endured adversity. You don't find 1st round draft picks.on trees to be dangled. We often sell low and buy high. Unless it is an offer that csnt be refused like Dylan Cease or Luis Castillo straight up 1 for 1, I'd say no. You have him, Acuna and Mauricio. Only 1 to play the maybe two positions open.
You cant trade batty, the kid has tons of potential and he can really turn out to be a beast! They should play him everyday no matter what. I rather have his bat rather than mcneil. Trade mcneil for a solid reliever and solidify that bullpen.
I agree. He reminds me of George Brett on steroids. A big Brett. He just has to attack the ball more instead of being happy to make contact. Baty has all the tools just need to put em together.
@ why doesn’t he? Because every time he got the chance to come up and be the third baseman, he was trash! But I will say if we can’t get anything good for him then keep him if nobody wants to give up anything good
@jamescurtis8584 Exactly. Everyone seems to think he's a bag of dirt. He's still a work in progress. He is the type of player that we could easily regret trading in a year.
@@Joe-j1fHe only had 50 games at the big league level last season. The only reason why his numbers were bad, was because he hit 184 at home. On the road, he hit 276. One thing I will admit, is that he doesn't seem to be able to hit lefties well.
If they really want another contributor, they'll have to do better than Baty. Right now, he's just a development prospect. They must sign Alonso. They've got their big bat in the OF with Soto. I would move Acuna to 2B permanently, and look for another bat for DH instead of relying on an aging Starling Marte, whose time with the team is probably limited. They could package him in a deal for another L handed starter or a solid bat for DH.
Brett Baty is better than he has shown so far. You got a hold on to him and hope he gets hot at the right time. What's the point of trading him now, you're not going to get anything for him. Better to wait and see what happens.
I've proposed what I think is a fair trade involving Baty. Baty goes to the Cardinals for Nolan Arenado, with the Cardinals paying half of Arenado's remaining contract.
Baty is still young and controllable. He's a former top 30 MLB prospect with less than two years of experience. While I'm not against trading for Arenado, his age and contract do not require relinquishing Baty.
@@fr2ncm9 Whereas I happen to agree with everything you said about Baty, I think the question marks surrounding him are worth giving him up for 3 years of a wizard at 3b like Arenado, but only if we can get StL to eat half the salary.
@@ArtofFreeSpeech We can get Arenado without giving up Baty. Arenado's AAV drops to 16 million next year. That's only slightly more than McNeil. I think Jose Buto and a mid to low tier prospect will be enough to move the needle.
Happy new year Ryan! You know I really do like your writing like your platform in your UA-cam channel. But please enough to click bait just to pass the time to talk about something before March. Of course Baty should be given a shot. The guy is talented and he’s still too young to give up on. Give him the same opportunity that Vito took advantage of last year. Can you imagine an infield with two young studs and production instead of going after 30 something year old free agents? I really hate how everyone is just throwing baby under the bus suddenly.
He has no value in a trade so just keep him as a depth piece. If we don't land Bregman or Alonso then MAYBE he gets a chance to earn some at bats in a platoon at 3rd if Vientos gets moved. I guess the hope is that he rakes in Syracuse to spark trade interest by the deadline.
Baty is a shame , Sweet Lefty swing, but hes missing the confidence or something to play in NY. you see Mauricio and Acuña and these kids come up looking ready for NY. Trade Brett to a small market team hopefully in a package for something useful
Keep him unless you're packaging him for a frontline starter. We've seen how important depth pieces are for deep runs. If you call Baty up but he struggles again, at least then you have more confidence about the type of player he is and you can trade him at a slightly lower value (still young and controllable) but with the benefit of knowing for sure after taking the risk. If he doesn't struggle, then that's a good problem to have and figure out later. Plus, I'm sorry but, Vientos is coming off of just one breakout season - he deserves the runway but would be smart to keep some insurance close by just in case.
Are you serious. Hey rid of him. He is not good enough. This team is not going anywhere as put together so far. They are still way behind the Braves and Phillies. What are they waiting for to improve this team. Lineup still has holes and pitching and relievers are not good enough either.
This team overperformed last season. They have too many holes to fill in one off-season. Bring in two solid bats. Sign Bregman, trade for Cedric Mullins and move gimpy Nimmo to dh.
Trade. Even if we make a big move they will not want him. Too much talent in are minor league’s. Getting something for him try to put him ins package with one of the players we are trying to move.
Baty has too much value to trade right now. Even if all he becomes is a utility player. Do you have any idea how much veteran utility players make? Good ones are making 4 to 6 million a year. That's money we can spend on a starting player or a relief pitcher.
Ryan let it go with this Bret Baty. He stanks,and why the Mets haven't sign Tanner Scott yet and the Mets need to bring in more bats. I'm tired of this waiting around. Come on Cohen step in and just sign somebody. I don't trust Stearns.
50 at bats is not much of an opportunity. He did hit this past season, just not at home. That doesn't mean he can't hit. Would you rather keep Mauricio? All he hit was 248 and he missed all of last year with a torn acl.
Unfortunately Baty probably would just be a throw in for a potential trade of Vlad Jr. The Jays would command several other top prospects as well. His trade value definitely isn’t what it used to be when he himself was considered a top prospect.
We keep hearing about all these great young players in the minors. Then I guess we don't need Baty. We've seen enough. Maybe he'll do great in a smaller market without the pressure.
Thanks for the breakdown! I have a quick question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?
I'm just wondering. You talking heads DO realize that Manfred hasn't gone full-idiot and changed the rules of the game so that it's just home run derby, don't you? You realize that even with this moronic hyper focus on home runs, major league hitters still amass far more singles that every other manner of hit combined ... don't you? You all seem to love OPS. Do you realize OPS is just two other stats added together? What? Is a little addition too much work for you? My daughter was able to add On Base % and Slugging % in her head when she was seven. Let me pose this incredibly taxing question to you. Runner on second, two outs. Your team is batting in the bottom of the ninth in a tie game. Who's more likely to win the game for you ... Tony Gwynn or Dave Kingman? Scoring mor runs than the other team is still how you win a baseball game and a line drive single still scores most baserunners from second base. Yet you all have bought in to the theory that batting average is meaningless. I recognize that a home run has value, but tell me this. Your third place hitter hits a home run in the first ... would you prefer a three run homer, or a solo shot? Now how many ways are there for your first two hitters to be on base when that happens? Out of those ten ways (ten if you count each type of hit individually and omit home runs as that batter would not still be on base when number three homers) ... but anyway, out of those ten ways to reach base, which way is most common? Singles! (I shouted that at you.) By emphasizing home runs, you encourage hitter to take upper cut swings this GREATLY reduces the area of possible intersection between the path of the pitched ball and the swing path of the bat, thus increasing strikeouts. You guys are helping to bring the game down from a thinking man's game to a caveman contest with zero cerebral requirements. The reason Brett Baty is struggling is that the entire baseball world is telling him he needs to be a home run hitter to have value. I shudder to think of what would have become of Keith Hernandez had he come up in today's game.
Why can’t he struggle because he doesn’t have it? Why is everyone stupid but you? Get a life and watch Bret baty. He stinks at the plate. Stinks. No one ever would tell a player “alright in this at bat you HAVE to hit a Homer” my kid could add percentages at 5. I don’t know maybe your Bret’s uncle or dad or something but why would you keep believing after 3 years that this year could be the one he breaks out in? What other career would you get this many chances? Can’t just trade to trade it’s not like he’s making any money. Keep him for now and let him build some value back. Also 29 teams none of them have scouts? None of them have seen or heard of Baty? Everyone knows who and what he is. No one will take him on for anything of value in return at this moment.
Have to hold until the other pieces are in place. Alonso or Bregman must first sign. If we miss on both, then we need Baty more than we want to admit.
Yup. Plus, who do you trade him to? No one wants him.
Could be true. It would be a disaster if he was traded and then the corner infield was Vientos and somebody else playing first or third because Alonso/Bregman didn’t sign and Baty was dealt.
If Brett Batty is our third basemen, we’re not a World Series contender! We can’t have a Swiss cheese bat in centerfield and a Swiss cheese bat at third base and then say oh yeah we’re contenders! We don’t need a career 222 average at third base and a career 210 average in centerfield and then say we’re contenders
@@Joe-j1f Plus Baty needs to improve defensively. I saw him make some terrible errors at 3rd last year.
....JUST SAYING BUT WHY KEEP TRYING TO FIX WHAT AIN'T BROKE
IF HAVING STAYED WITH IGLESIAS, WINKER AND J.D.
THE TURNING OF THE METS STRIDE THROUGH THE SEASON WOULD BE BETTER.
No reason tonmove him now, hold on and see what you have. If he doesn't work out, include him in a mid season trade for an arm that we'll need deeper in the season.
Happy New Year🎉! Very interesting Ryan !
Let Baty play at 1B in triple a for like 2 weeks . See how it goes 🤷🏽♂️
Absolutely. Did you not see what Mark Vientos did last season
Wait - keep as insurance for injuries
Yup. Has no trade value right now anyway. It would be like just giving him away at this point.
Agreed
I totally agree with you Ryan !! Thank you !
I hope they hold him. I feel he's ready to break out offensively. Dude just needs to attack the ball instead of being happy to make contact.
Trade him in a heart beat he’s not worth being on top of Mauricio or acuña neva in a million years
I agree hold on and see! Keep him in the minors in our Met system !
You’d be selling way low so he holds more value internally than externally.
Jeff McNeil can go with him
Silly
I agree with getting rid of McNeil. He's going to be 33 this season, and he's coming off of a subpar season. If one or more of the kids shine in spring training, I trade McNeil and eat 10 mil of his contract.
Especially if we can somehow trade them for Kumar Rocker.
people forget before Baty was injured, he was our best hittee then wasnt the same when he came back
put Baty at 1b in Syracuse learn that position
Exactly
Brett Baty should be part of a midyear package to the Rangers for Kumar Rocker, to the Pirates for Ke'Bryan Hayes, to the Orioles for Cedric Mullins, or to the Yanks for Jazz Chisholm, Jr.
Hold on and see if he has an excellent spring training. If he's amazing you can use him and if he Isn't going to be in Mets plans he still becomes a better trade chip than he is right now. Can you imagine if he turned out to be another Vientos just a little bit of a late bloomer that would put the Mets in a great position on the field and financial flexibility too.
I think you could put him in part of the deal to get Vladimir Guerrero Jr. 👍😉
Hold and hope he figures it out in the majors.
I don’t think Baty can deal with the NY media , sorry to say
I think u used to speak of Vientos in thw same vein. Some take time to figure it out. He has made nice strides and endured adversity. You don't find 1st round draft picks.on trees to be dangled. We often sell low and buy high. Unless it is an offer that csnt be refused like Dylan Cease or Luis Castillo straight up 1 for 1, I'd say no. You have him, Acuna and Mauricio. Only 1 to play the maybe two positions open.
A spot on the roster is more important than shedding money for the Mets
Hold on to him. Let him learn outfield or 1st
Keep
Hold he is third baseman not too much in the league!!
You cant trade batty, the kid has tons of potential and he can really turn out to be a beast! They should play him everyday no matter what. I rather have his bat rather than mcneil. Trade mcneil for a solid reliever and solidify that bullpen.
I agree. He reminds me of George Brett on steroids. A big Brett. He just has to attack the ball more instead of being happy to make contact. Baty has all the tools just need to put em together.
He is not as good as McNeil ,not even close ,I just have a feeling McNeil is going to have a great season in 25
@jasonnorris5298 McNeil my favorite player btw
Let’s start moving some of these guys and make this ball club Great!
He doesn't even have 500 ABs
@ why doesn’t he? Because every time he got the chance to come up and be the third baseman, he was trash! But I will say if we can’t get anything good for him then keep him if nobody wants to give up anything good
@jamescurtis8584 Exactly. Everyone seems to think he's a bag of dirt. He's still a work in progress. He is the type of player that we could easily regret trading in a year.
@@Joe-j1fHe only had 50 games at the big league level last season. The only reason why his numbers were bad, was because he hit 184 at home. On the road, he hit 276.
One thing I will admit, is that he doesn't seem to be able to hit lefties well.
If they really want another contributor, they'll have to do better than Baty. Right now, he's just a development prospect. They must sign Alonso. They've got their big bat in the OF with Soto. I would move Acuna to 2B permanently, and look for another bat for DH instead of relying on an aging Starling Marte, whose time with the team is probably limited. They could package him in a deal for another L handed starter or a solid bat for DH.
Keep him he reminds me of David with his energy
Put him in a package for Vlad
Hold. It took several tries in the big leagues for Vientos to become a star. Find out what you’ve got first.
Hold on to him so we can eventually say the words, we are cutting bait by cutting baty. It's not much but there's a bit of value in that.
Brett Baty is better than he has shown so far. You got a hold on to him and hope he gets hot at the right time. What's the point of trading him now, you're not going to get anything for him. Better to wait and see what happens.
I would not trade him until he asks for big money, he's a good hitter and can play multiple positions
I've proposed what I think is a fair trade involving Baty. Baty goes to the Cardinals for Nolan Arenado, with the Cardinals paying half of Arenado's remaining contract.
Baty is still young and controllable. He's a former top 30 MLB prospect with less than two years of experience. While I'm not against trading for Arenado, his age and contract do not require relinquishing Baty.
@@fr2ncm9 Whereas I happen to agree with everything you said about Baty, I think the question marks surrounding him are worth giving him up for 3 years of a wizard at 3b like Arenado, but only if we can get StL to eat half the salary.
@@ArtofFreeSpeech We can get Arenado without giving up Baty. Arenado's AAV drops to 16 million next year. That's only slightly more than McNeil. I think Jose Buto and a mid to low tier prospect will be enough to move the needle.
Look he’s a great AAA player. Leave him there and let him rake then trade him at the deadline for a playoff rental.
Happy new year Ryan! You know I really do like your writing like your platform in your UA-cam channel. But please enough to click bait just to pass the time to talk about something before March. Of course Baty should be given a shot. The guy is talented and he’s still too young to give up on. Give him the same opportunity that Vito took advantage of last year. Can you imagine an infield with two young studs and production instead of going after 30 something year old free agents? I really hate how everyone is just throwing baby under the bus suddenly.
Trade. He def could be a piece if Sandy Alcantara or Vladdy becomes available
Alcantara has had multiple injuries in his short career and only pitched well once.
@ 1 major injury but his upside on a good team could be ace potential especially if none of the other SPs steps up
@@GODHASRISEN811 He's had multiple seasons where he only put up 30-90 innings. He's just not reliable enough.
@ I think he would be a safe bet if he can come back & be dominant plus he’s still controllable for a couple of more yrs going into his early 30’s
People want to trade low for him. I have two words for that. The second word is "You!" If you get someone good in return, then yes. Otherwise it's No.
Third baseman is difficult to find he is an excellent player so keep him..
He has no value in a trade so just keep him as a depth piece. If we don't land Bregman or Alonso then MAYBE he gets a chance to earn some at bats in a platoon at 3rd if Vientos gets moved. I guess the hope is that he rakes in Syracuse to spark trade interest by the deadline.
Yes Baty and McNeil I'll drive them both to LaGuardia ✈️😂
They should trade Mr.Minor Leagues.
Pete Alonso is a dufus version of Darrell Evans
You know, Brett Baty may become a better player with another club outside of the Big Apple.
I'd give him one more shot, 100- 200 at bats at the MLB level and decide from there
Bret baty should've been traded. What is he good for ? He should be delivering water to the facility
Baty is a shame , Sweet Lefty swing, but hes missing the confidence or something to play in NY. you see Mauricio and Acuña and these kids come up looking ready for NY. Trade Brett to a small market team hopefully in a package for something useful
Keep him unless you're packaging him for a frontline starter.
We've seen how important depth pieces are for deep runs. If you call Baty up but he struggles again, at least then you have more confidence about the type of player he is and you can trade him at a slightly lower value (still young and controllable) but with the benefit of knowing for sure after taking the risk. If he doesn't struggle, then that's a good problem to have and figure out later.
Plus, I'm sorry but, Vientos is coming off of just one breakout season - he deserves the runway but would be smart to keep some insurance close by just in case.
Are you serious. Hey rid of him. He is not good enough. This team is not going anywhere as put together so far. They are still way behind the Braves and Phillies. What are they waiting for to improve this team. Lineup still has holes and pitching and relievers are not good enough either.
This team overperformed last season. They have too many holes to fill in one off-season. Bring in two solid bats. Sign Bregman, trade for Cedric Mullins and move gimpy Nimmo to dh.
The Mets would have had more options for him if they hadn't brought him up in June to play 1 game against thee Phillies.
Trade. Even if we make a big move they will not want him. Too much talent in are minor league’s. Getting something for him try to put him ins package with one of the players we are trying to move.
Keep Baty and if he rakes in minors, bring him up to be DH!!
If they’re going after Alex Bregman, they might not have a choice.
Why is it you want batty but are ready to trade acuña so quick
He’s worth more to the Mets right now…
Baty has too much value to trade right now. Even if all he becomes is a utility player. Do you have any idea how much veteran utility players make? Good ones are making 4 to 6 million a year. That's money we can spend on a starting player or a relief pitcher.
Let go of the flying squirrel and batty for something and let the young guys play
Ryan let it go with this Bret Baty. He stanks,and why the Mets haven't sign Tanner Scott yet and the Mets need to bring in more bats. I'm tired of this waiting around. Come on Cohen step in and just sign somebody. I don't trust Stearns.
Bety had his opportunities to be on this team and blew it, time has come to cut ✂️ ties before you get nothing for him🤔
50 at bats is not much of an opportunity. He did hit this past season, just not at home. That doesn't mean he can't hit. Would you rather keep Mauricio? All he hit was 248 and he missed all of last year with a torn acl.
Trade him!
Hey. Managing editor. Take your job more seriously. Do some prep. You just ramble. Watch your own show. If you won't watch it, why should anyone else?
Dont trade ANY young talent please
Trade it
He’s white should
trade him. 🤨
Bring back alonso and winky...Brett is a good trade piece for vladimir
Unfortunately Baty probably would just be a throw in for a potential trade of Vlad Jr. The Jays would command several other top prospects as well. His trade value definitely isn’t what it used to be when he himself was considered a top prospect.
Bye Bye. Batty .!.!.!
We keep hearing about all these great young players in the minors. Then I guess we don't need Baty. We've seen enough. Maybe he'll do great in a smaller market without the pressure.
There is no reason to move him yet. MLB prospects are not like NBA draft picks.
Thanks for the breakdown! I have a quick question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?
I'm just wondering. You talking heads DO realize that Manfred hasn't gone full-idiot and changed the rules of the game so that it's just home run derby, don't you? You realize that even with this moronic hyper focus on home runs, major league hitters still amass far more singles that every other manner of hit combined ... don't you?
You all seem to love OPS. Do you realize OPS is just two other stats added together? What? Is a little addition too much work for you? My daughter was able to add On Base % and Slugging % in her head when she was seven.
Let me pose this incredibly taxing question to you. Runner on second, two outs. Your team is batting in the bottom of the ninth in a tie game. Who's more likely to win the game for you ... Tony Gwynn or Dave Kingman? Scoring mor runs than the other team is still how you win a baseball game and a line drive single still scores most baserunners from second base. Yet you all have bought in to the theory that batting average is meaningless. I recognize that a home run has value, but tell me this. Your third place hitter hits a home run in the first ... would you prefer a three run homer, or a solo shot? Now how many ways are there for your first two hitters to be on base when that happens? Out of those ten ways (ten if you count each type of hit individually and omit home runs as that batter would not still be on base when number three homers) ... but anyway, out of those ten ways to reach base, which way is most common? Singles! (I shouted that at you.) By emphasizing home runs, you encourage hitter to take upper cut swings this GREATLY reduces the area of possible intersection between the path of the pitched ball and the swing path of the bat, thus increasing strikeouts.
You guys are helping to bring the game down from a thinking man's game to a caveman contest with zero cerebral requirements.
The reason Brett Baty is struggling is that the entire baseball world is telling him he needs to be a home run hitter to have value. I shudder to think of what would have become of Keith Hernandez had he come up in today's game.
Why can’t he struggle because he doesn’t have it? Why is everyone stupid but you? Get a life and watch Bret baty. He stinks at the plate. Stinks. No one ever would tell a player “alright in this at bat you HAVE to hit a Homer” my kid could add percentages at 5. I don’t know maybe your Bret’s uncle or dad or something but why would you keep believing after 3 years that this year could be the one he breaks out in? What other career would you get this many chances? Can’t just trade to trade it’s not like he’s making any money. Keep him for now and let him build some value back. Also 29 teams none of them have scouts? None of them have seen or heard of Baty? Everyone knows who and what he is. No one will take him on for anything of value in return at this moment.
trade - if the buys come in
They shoulda traded him a couple seasons ago...
Tradebatty for areliver lets sign Bergman don't let tigers or redox get him
Trade him, Marte, and McNeil for Luis Castillo. Resign OMG. Resign Alonso. Sign Bregman. Done
OMG is an aging player with an iron glove. That's the reason why he hasn't played contiually on the big-league level.
ryan i think we need to move on from baty he has no postion to play
Trade , next question.
So is Baty gonna thrive or wut?
Trade..
Trade
BRETT BATY AINT WORTH A PACK OF BUBBLE GUM …LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HAD GREAT PROMISE FOR 5 GAMES THEN HE FORGOT HOW TO HIT AND ESPECIALLY HOW TO,FIELD.
PACKAGE BATY MCNEIL OTTAVINO AND THE YOUNGS FOR A NEW HANDLE ON THE TOILET BOWL IN THE METS CLUBHOUSE…..
Trade