Keep buying second rate products. In my experience, they are not quality machines that last more than 8 years. Jap bikes last 40-50 years and longer. If you want cheap that is exactly what you will get.
I recently bought a second hand low mileage CF Moto 300 SR , I had seen a lot of good press about the brand and I have to say I am impressed with the build Quality, power is good for its displacement, suspension and brakes are very good as is the handling, I will definitely be eagerly awaiting the bigger sports bikes.
I own a 450sr (Europe) from November '23 and as far until now, everyday i'm with a smile in my face every time i ride her! First of all, it's the same story with Japanese motorcycle's when they first came on market. Big joke and laughs. See them now... 😉😉 Second, it's a company that competes in Moto2 and 3... It's her name on the market and the racing for advertising,so i don't think that they joking around and hurting their brand and image. just like the Japanese... Racing is RACING!!! Third,the collaboration with a well known manufacturer such as KTM with Super Duke also speaks for its self. And last but not least Yamaha search CF Moto for collaboration!!! And we all know what Yamaha means and speaks!!! The 270 degree crank and camshaft, like the MT's and not only (crossplane R1M) innovated by Yamaha, not only speaks out loud,but also is MUSIC TO MY EARS!!! *And as an everyday bike and commuting with her i can assure you that is solid as it should be!!! And most importantly the breaking system! Engine,revs and speeds more than appropriate, and the plastics is plastics! Not paper... And with 2 already maintains service's in the dealership!
I am excited about these new CF Moto bikes. there used to be a day many years ago when anything that said ( made in Japan ) was considered a cheap copy knockoff. and now they are the most respected products in the world. and now in 2023 China is trying to get past their reputation of cheaply put together bikes. and it seems to me like they are accomplishing their goal. and to me it is a good thing. if CF Moto makes very competitive bikes at a lower cost it will shake up the market. and that is a good thing. it's the same as when Sony entered into the Camera business going head on against Nikon and Canon. and for the first few years had no respect from photographers and the camera market. Then Sony came out with the full frame Mirrorless cameras. but they hadn't perfected some aspects of them yet. so still the camera market treated them like a joke. but now Sony makes the best cameras and lenses out there in the world today. and is respected in the camera industry. and Sony forced Nikon and Canon to catch up to them and change their full frame cameras into mirrorless systems to compete with Sony. and now the entire camera market is better because of it. and companies like CF Moto are doing the same thing. and there will be a day when made in China will have the same respect as made in Japan. it's just bound to happen. and if companies like CF Moto can innovate and go beyond bikes that are already being made by Japan. then that will be really cool. and shake up the entire industry. which is good for the consumer.
As long as prices do not drop too much, otherwise it will become a competition "who can make it cheaper?", meaning reducing quality of components, less strict assembly control, and reduced product life (not the warranty, which is 1 year anyway). For example, experienced people who saw Kawasaki Versys of recent years, say there is a visible quality gap between 650 & 1000 models, which are now made in different plants/countries, with 650cc looking like downgraded.
i daily a 300nk and ive put 6k on it. I have had zero problems. time for a new rear tire though! reliability hasn't even crossed my mind, especially since they have a fantastic warranty
A V4 with half the tech at half price does not sound bad to me. I think there is plenty of room in the market for that. Or a V4 750, that would take over super sport right now. The industry's pants are down right now. Those MV copies look amazing. Also that 500 if it is light is a brilliant move. The jump between 400 beginner and a 600 supersport is too big. That 500 could be competitive with the Aprillia 660 and R7 for less.
CFMOTO designs could compete with a lot of motorcycle manufacturers… They’re by far more eye-catching to me with their Italian aesthetic influence… China is the new Japan. They will most likely outdo Japan or South Korea even in their global market product saturation, much as iPhones nowadays. 🙏🏻😊
Bring on the development of CFMoto! More competition = better value for the consumer. Think about the top 4 Japanese manufacturers prior to them becoming mainstream. China, however, like it or not, will eventually dominate. Having been invited to their HQ and main factory several times now. It’s only just that. A simple matter of time. Good or bad?
I recently got the CF Moto 300nk. With all the fuss about quality etc. its got its ups and downs, but from what I have experienced of it so far the quality I expected was better than I thought. Only bought a CF moto due to budget and just to get my learner license on it. Looking at the performance of the bike I am getting so far its amazing. As long as you maintain the bike properly I guess you wont have much of a problem. Downside of what heard hasnt reached me yet but my friends have the same bike as mine and I know they dont really take care of their bike.
I was told by a KTM insider that CF moto are making a lot of parts for their new lineup, if the comment below is correct and their doing the same with YAMAHA and more, it should be interesting to see what they can accomplish over the next few years, and why not, the Japanese have had it sewn up for so long, now if they start messing with the likes of the R1 for example, just as they did to the R6 / r7 / mt7 ect, and turn it into a universal engine system wrapping it in different plastic and calling the same thing different names, maybe cf moto bringing some 1000 super sports with big hp might make them think twice. The idea of the R9 is intriguing but only if they leave the R1 alone, my fear is they will triple cylinder mt09 the R1 and discontinue the 4 cylinder, call me old fashioned or whatever but you just don’t mess with a good thing and the other companies usually follow, it’s really such a shame the R6 is track only, how long until Honda and Kawasaki do the same. The 750cc class was magnificent though the 90s, something the current generation has no experience with and that’s a shame so if Cf moto can put a stop to that then I’ll buy one of their ice cream’s : )
I already have a 4 cylinder CBR 600, I was so hyped to buy the 450sr, It sounds and looks absolutely nuts but the small displacement is holding me back a bit, I really really hope they make the 2cylinder 800sr or 650sr soon
It's in the best interest for the auto industry to not fall for the cheap Chinese knockoffs. They already ruined the smartphone industry. Plus chinese manufacturers reverse engineer European and Japanese tech to make their bikes almost as good while they are barely reliable in the long run.
in my thoughts if this bike could competition in Moto GP specially if they can get to podium the bike market will be heading to china and the Japanese,USA and Europe factory will pursuing market and they will decrease the sales market and after market sales will be dominating by new china super bike.
There’s a difference between Chinese made stuff and companies outsourcing their production line to china, and apple product cannot be compared with Chinese phones and same goes with bikes.
They don’t even bother to make their own designs. In other products they straight up make cheaper versions that are lower quality. I would go Japanese before I trust a company you can’t buy dog food or baby formula from or can’t build a school house that doesn’t collapse. Their ideas might be good, but wouldn’t trust them to be original and wouldn’t trust them to monitor themselves making them in quality controll
They make brilliant bikes. The build quality seems good and in real world tests the CFMOTO 400 killed the Honda CBR450 in a standing start drag race and nearly $800 cheaper. Now everyone is saying exactly the same things about China that they said about Japan when the big fours started appearing. There is actually quite a bit of new engine tech going into CF bikes. Love them or hate them, the rise of the Chinese Motorcycle is here.
Chinese motos start to be expensive, now they are at 75% from the japanese. Is a huge mechanical gap between them , in favor of the japanese. Mechanical quality of the japanese is just superior. I have to admit the chinese are available next day, while the competition...Can you wait 6 months ?
Do yourself a favour and have a look at a CFMoto in a dealership and have a test ride. They are making brilliant machines and will be world beaters soon. It goes in cycles ('scuse the pun). The 50's saw Italy assume the mantle from England, 60's and 70's the Japanese took over and recently Italy and Austria have hit back, but these Chinese bikes are going to eat everything.
I love motorcycles! I have owned eighteen over the past forty one years. I welcome any manufacture that can build a good quality bike. Until now I have not seen a quality Chinees bike on the road but perhaps they are coming. Having owned a KTM, the quality was good the reliability was not so good. So, in my thinking pairing with KTM is not a selling point to me. But then Japan, Italy and Germany are probably not pounding on the door to team up with the Chinees motorcycle companies. Only time will tell, I am not opposed to owning a good quality bike built warever. If moon men built a good bike I would give it a chance.
WELL, THEY ARE MAKING SO MANY PARTS FOR MANY BRANDS, SO, why not. also many say China is communist but today they seem more Nationalist. If they make a good dependable machine I will try them. bet their triple engine is based on Yamaha's triple. I remember when I bought my first CB 750 Honda it had all the same stigmas...look at them today. today I love my 2018 Zed 900 Kawasaki Naked and my 2023 Harley soft tail standard. If they make something on par with the Agusta Brutal naked that is reasonalbly priced with seat height like my Kawasaki... helll ya!
@@soultopsy try the reviews on QJ motors SRK 400. the reason why i tell you people that chinese engine can make a 3 cylinder sound out of a 2 cylinder.
Reviews of Chinese motorcycles or cars for the West are dubious to say the least, it is easy for manufacturers to choose key channels and platforms, offering substantial payments to put their models among European, Japanese or American models. The quality and durability of the materials used for its construction are inferior to maximize benefits, safety and quality tests are in many cases vague or non-existent. When we recommend a machine that is manufactured by companies without long experience and tradition, without motor culture, with the philosophy of building by reducing costs to maximize profits. Safety and reliability are concepts that still need to be matured in the Asian country. The health and lives of users is something that should be taken more seriously.
Are the motorcycles and other vehicles produced by CFmoto reliable or not ? I see remarkable progress for this company, especially in the global level.
I own a CF Moto and Benelli bike and Benelli just copies Honda old engines but CF Moto is something else, It is not like Japanese but still better than another Chinese bike like Benelli or Qmotorsrs
In my country, CFmoto has good dealership and service. Bikes themselves are good for the price, just lacking some refinement as compared to Japanese bikes (e.g. vibration, some jerkiness, etc.), plus most models don't have "electronic assistants", but that's OK for low-level bikes (like you won't need launch control for 60-70 hp bike). They are good beginner bikes in many segments.
@@chrispekel5709 on many cfmoto models accelerator control feels a bit strange when you roll it down - in the end rpm abruptly drops, creating sudden engine-braking pull. Also reviewers say that on 700cc bikes there is some point when acceleration isn't linear, with sudden power increase in the middle. Nothing really bad.
I have no experience owning Chinese bikes, but it feels like the 1970's all over again with Japan taking over. The problem is Chinese parts SUCK and are faulty. I would never trust a Bezos Bike on the freeway until they use better steel, and welds. Otherwise, I see CFMoto as a true competitor, which is ironic considering it's from a Communist country where competition is frowned upon, on paper at least. We know all politics are hypocritical. Anyway, the start up mode with the lights is super cool and it's only a matter of time until the Japanese cruisers use the same idea.🍦
Cfmoto already showed with the SR450 what they can. No faulty parts. It rivals the ninja 400, CBR 500 and co. And it has definitely better parts than the Japanese bikes. China can rival with the Japanese bikes easily.
This title has been bothering me. And refused to click due it being Chinese motorcycle. But it's popped up Soo many times I thought I'd take a look more so to the comments
Lol 😂 it's not about how cool it looks it's about the quality and from what iv seen it's just not there yet I don't have any faith in anything that come out of China where do they get there steel from?
I own a CF Moto and Benelli bike and Benelli just copies Honda old engines but CF Moto is something else, It is not like Japanese but still better than another Chinese bike like Benelli or Qmotorsrs.
6k of daily use and counting with zero problems. chase just did an iron butt (1k mi in 24 hours) on an ibex 800t The thing is nobody who actually owns a CF Moto has had really any issues with it. All of this speculation about reliability is ridiculous. even the shops don't see them come in with issues.
Euro manufacture bikes have beaten the japanese manufacturers bikes in EVERY comparison for 15 years strait!!.I own a superbike collection of both japanese and euro superbikes . So no bias . Euro bikes are just better in all aspects now (yes even in reliability) BUT ducati sells only 66k bikes a year bmw 120k japanese thew in the towel years ago ... The Chinese are going after the japapanese big markets that scares them and now the chinese cf moto 450ss just beat the honda cb500r the japanese need to make better bikes
I beg to differ , had 25 bikes over the last 18 years and BMW and Ducati sucked big time in terms of reliability - coincidence ?. perhaps but never issues with my japanese bikes - so I dont't buy your narrative.
Japanese bikes consistently show higher reliability than European bikes. And are way cheaper and easier to get repaired. And CF Moto is actively trying to increase their service points in the US. I live in a city of 300k and our local Indian dealership is also a licensed CF Moto dealership.
@jake88ci this channel literally has a whole other video talking about the wys japanese bikes are better than European ua-cam.com/video/UxSqjTZE2Jk/v-deo.htmlsi=outbyVNArXzr3r-m
It took Honda 50 years to get where it’s today. China has a lot of hard lessons to learn. All one has to do is look at the knock off small engines build in China. Total garbage. In about 10 years I’ll reconsider.
Anyone can make a good bike but not all manufacturer can give a good after sales service and parts avialability. Most chinese bikes are disposable bike. Very hard to get replacement parts.
If you had that same mentality for every other product that you own then you would be wearing no clothes, your car would be missing 80% of its parts and you wouldn't be commenting on this video, because you'd have no phone or computer. People like you are too dumb to realize that there are good and bad, cheap and expensive Chinese products, Brain damaged social stigma 🤫
I come to a point in my life where I’m now looking for simplicity, back to the roots of motorcycle, just enjoying slow easy chill rides. So CF Moto might become top of the range in performances, but they are absolutely ugly, with no character. Not for me, thank you!
Yes I have Benelli too Is the same as Keeway it's not too good in quality but the CF Moto is the same as the KTM quality is not excellent but decent, the only issue I notice is the heating in the CF Moto bikes... Otherwise perfect.
you have not used one, hence you dont know... I own one and I can Guarantee they are on par with Japanese counterparts on reliability, and parts are more available.
Not to snub the Chinese but my personal preference would be Italian bikes ,Japanese and british nothing more nothing less . Just Chinese lack original designs or sexy bodywork and are prone to copyright and over exaggerated specs on their products so Chinese manufacturers just stick to 50cc and 125cc commuter rubbish 👍🏻🍦🍦
Pure shit products, I've been dealing with the idiots a couple of years. Totally impossible to get hold of spare parts, even a small parts makes the bike useless. For normal producers parts comes over night. 😅
The more competition between manufacturers can only mean great things for us
Yap...
Keep buying second rate products. In my experience, they are not quality machines that last more than 8 years. Jap bikes last 40-50 years and longer. If you want cheap that is exactly what you will get.
I recently bought a second hand low mileage CF Moto 300 SR , I had seen a lot of good press about the brand and I have to say I am impressed with the build Quality, power is good for its displacement, suspension and brakes are very good as is the handling, I will definitely be eagerly awaiting the bigger sports bikes.
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i dont know ... they have a long way to go! maybe in 10 years but now I will stick to Japan!
I am buying cfmoto motorcycle over Japanese motorcycle.
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I own a 450sr (Europe) from November '23 and as far until now, everyday i'm with a smile in my face every time i ride her!
First of all, it's the same story with Japanese motorcycle's when they first came on market. Big joke and laughs. See them now... 😉😉
Second, it's a company that competes in Moto2 and 3... It's her name on the market and the racing for advertising,so i don't think that they joking around and hurting their brand and image. just like the Japanese... Racing is RACING!!!
Third,the collaboration with a well known manufacturer such as KTM with Super Duke also speaks for its self.
And last but not least Yamaha search CF Moto for collaboration!!! And we all know what Yamaha means and speaks!!! The 270 degree crank and camshaft, like the MT's and not only (crossplane R1M) innovated by Yamaha, not only speaks out loud,but also is MUSIC TO MY EARS!!!
*And as an everyday bike and commuting with her i can assure you that is solid as it should be!!! And most importantly the breaking system! Engine,revs and speeds more than appropriate, and the plastics is plastics! Not paper...
And with 2 already maintains service's in the dealership!
Yamaha partnering with CF Moto speaks volumes.
Yap
I don't gamble myself to buy chinese motorcycle I still stick to Japanese motorcycle.
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😂😂😂😂😂
Not after their bike on gp
Well, in the 60-70 everybody was laughing about Japanese bike, then……. Same story
Its okay bro, I will gamble for you
I am excited about these new CF Moto bikes. there used to be a day many years ago when anything that said ( made in Japan ) was considered a cheap copy knockoff. and now they are the most respected products in the world. and now in 2023 China is trying to get past their reputation of cheaply put together bikes. and it seems to me like they are accomplishing their goal. and to me it is a good thing. if CF Moto makes very competitive bikes at a lower cost it will shake up the market. and that is a good thing. it's the same as when Sony entered into the Camera business going head on against Nikon and Canon. and for the first few years had no respect from photographers and the camera market. Then Sony came out with the full frame Mirrorless cameras. but they hadn't perfected some aspects of them yet. so still the camera market treated them like a joke. but now Sony makes the best cameras and lenses out there in the world today. and is respected in the camera industry. and Sony forced Nikon and Canon to catch up to them and change their full frame cameras into mirrorless systems to compete with Sony. and now the entire camera market is better because of it. and companies like CF Moto are doing the same thing. and there will be a day when made in China will have the same respect as made in Japan. it's just bound to happen. and if companies like CF Moto can innovate and go beyond bikes that are already being made by Japan. then that will be really cool. and shake up the entire industry. which is good for the consumer.
You are right 🤔
As long as prices do not drop too much, otherwise it will become a competition "who can make it cheaper?", meaning reducing quality of components, less strict assembly control, and reduced product life (not the warranty, which is 1 year anyway). For example, experienced people who saw Kawasaki Versys of recent years, say there is a visible quality gap between 650 & 1000 models, which are now made in different plants/countries, with 650cc looking like downgraded.
i daily a 300nk and ive put 6k on it. I have had zero problems. time for a new rear tire though!
reliability hasn't even crossed my mind, especially since they have a fantastic warranty
A V4 with half the tech at half price does not sound bad to me. I think there is plenty of room in the market for that. Or a V4 750, that would take over super sport right now. The industry's pants are down right now. Those MV copies look amazing. Also that 500 if it is light is a brilliant move. The jump between 400 beginner and a 600 supersport is too big. That 500 could be competitive with the Aprillia 660 and R7 for less.
Yap
750 v4 has no class to race in so it would be a completely designed for civilian use meaning it would never perform as any 600cc i4
The jump from 400 to 600 is completely irrelevant a rs660 or a mt07 or gsx8s are the inbetween
Or r7, an r6 will outrun an r7 anytime.
Chinese, Japanese, all motorcycle matters.. 😅
CFMOTO designs could compete with a lot of motorcycle manufacturers… They’re by far more eye-catching to me with their Italian aesthetic influence… China is the new Japan. They will most likely outdo Japan or South Korea even in their global market product saturation, much as iPhones nowadays. 🙏🏻😊
Yes, but it will take time almost 10-15 years
Not really just Italian influence, they straight up hired italian designers for their bike designs afaik.
@@wargolemx102The design house is Kiska, same as KTM, who are Austrian
@@tofubutcher7456 my bad. But i guess my point is they didn't just copy the europeans, they hired them lol
@@wargolemx102 yeah all part of some complicated Corporate web
Bring on the development of CFMoto! More competition = better value for the consumer. Think about the top 4 Japanese manufacturers prior to them becoming mainstream. China, however, like it or not, will eventually dominate. Having been invited to their HQ and main factory several times now. It’s only just that. A simple matter of time. Good or bad?
I recently got the CF Moto 300nk. With all the fuss about quality etc. its got its ups and downs, but from what I have experienced of it so far the quality I expected was better than I thought. Only bought a CF moto due to budget and just to get my learner license on it. Looking at the performance of the bike I am getting so far its amazing. As long as you maintain the bike properly I guess you wont have much of a problem. Downside of what heard hasnt reached me yet but my friends have the same bike as mine and I know they dont really take care of their bike.
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literally any bike will crap out if you don't maintain it.
CF MOTO in july opened a plant in Mexico to help support the North American market.
motorcycle made from the country that makes tofu buildings apartments? Pass
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I was told by a KTM insider that CF moto are making a lot of parts for their new lineup, if the comment below is correct and their doing the same with YAMAHA and more, it should be interesting to see what they can accomplish over the next few years, and why not, the Japanese have had it sewn up for so long, now if they start messing with the likes of the R1 for example, just as they did to the R6 / r7 / mt7 ect, and turn it into a universal engine system wrapping it in different plastic and calling the same thing different names, maybe cf moto bringing some 1000 super sports with big hp might make them think twice.
The idea of the R9 is intriguing but only if they leave the R1 alone, my fear is they will triple cylinder mt09 the R1 and discontinue the 4 cylinder, call me old fashioned or whatever but you just don’t mess with a good thing and the other companies usually follow, it’s really such a shame the R6 is track only, how long until Honda and Kawasaki do the same.
The 750cc class was magnificent though the 90s, something the current generation has no experience with and that’s a shame so if Cf moto can put a stop to that then I’ll buy one of their ice cream’s : )
Just rode the NK800 that bike wants to be unleashed!!!!!! things a monster. Only real question will be how will the bike hold up after 10-20 years
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I already have a 4 cylinder CBR 600, I was so hyped to buy the 450sr, It sounds and looks absolutely nuts but the small displacement is holding me back a bit, I really really hope they make the 2cylinder 800sr or 650sr soon
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It's in the best interest for the auto industry to not fall for the cheap Chinese knockoffs. They already ruined the smartphone industry. Plus chinese manufacturers reverse engineer European and Japanese tech to make their bikes almost as good while they are barely reliable in the long run.
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After everything china has done over the past 3-4 years, im surprised anyone is thinking of buying anything chinese made.
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Nice small displacement bikes for sure excited to see what's next.
No matter how much I've searched for information on the 500sr, I can't find anything, that's the one I liked the most hahaha
In the end, Cf Moto is still Chinese plus cheaper so, can't be as good as the Japanese.
I can wait to get my hands on the 500sr!!! I was going to pull the trigger on the 450sr but think I'll wait just a little longer 😬
Yes me too, i just love 450sr but waiting to buy 500sr
But your missing out on fun in the meantime.
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Is there any news about a launch date 500sr
@@دجوكر none that I know of.
When will CF Moto 1000 V4 and CF Moto 1250nk release?
Reliability and resale value will be a serious problem
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in my thoughts if this bike could competition in Moto GP specially if they can get to podium the bike market will be heading to china and the Japanese,USA and Europe factory will pursuing market and they will decrease the sales market and after market sales will be dominating by new china super bike.
Yes, this will be the strategy but waiting to see the performance.
Ah yes, the false equivalency between motorcycle and smartphone, never get old.
lets gooooooo CHINA
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CFMOTO is Chinese and they're know for copying, so with enough money any existing engine can be copied and reproduced.
They don't copy...KTM got them to build engine for their 790..then somehow they join ventures..so CFmoto had access to KTM's blueprints
The Chinese a known for their intellectual property theft, and they definitely don’t know what patent is.
There’s a difference between Chinese made stuff and companies outsourcing their production line to china, and apple product cannot be compared with Chinese phones and same goes with bikes.
But if the same company produces products like Cf Moto makes an engine for Ktm
And then produce their bike with the same engine?
Totally wrong
They don’t even bother to make their own designs. In other products they straight up make cheaper versions that are lower quality. I would go Japanese before I trust a company you can’t buy dog food or baby formula from or can’t build a school house that doesn’t collapse. Their ideas might be good, but wouldn’t trust them to be original and wouldn’t trust them to monitor themselves making them in quality controll
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What are you on about? The 450sr is their own design
They make brilliant bikes. The build quality seems good and in real world tests the CFMOTO 400 killed the Honda CBR450 in a standing start drag race and nearly $800 cheaper. Now everyone is saying exactly the same things about China that they said about Japan when the big fours started appearing. There is actually quite a bit of new engine tech going into CF bikes. Love them or hate them, the rise of the Chinese Motorcycle is here.
Yap
Chinese motos start to be expensive, now they are at 75% from the japanese. Is a huge mechanical gap between them , in favor of the japanese. Mechanical quality of the japanese is just superior. I have to admit the chinese are available next day, while the competition...Can you wait 6 months ?
Huge mechanical gap? No. They are probably priced right
Do yourself a favour and have a look at a CFMoto in a dealership and have a test ride. They are making brilliant machines and will be world beaters soon. It goes in cycles ('scuse the pun). The 50's saw Italy assume the mantle from England, 60's and 70's the Japanese took over and recently Italy and Austria have hit back, but these Chinese bikes are going to eat everything.
I am waiting for the launch of 500sr and 675sr i will buy one on the basis of overall shape.
CFmoto is 50% owned by KTM. Hardly a Chinese takeover.
Not owned by ktm, they set a partnership program to deliver engines and its technology with ktm and yamaha..
They own 51% of a partnership. Not 51% of the company
No shot this thing is reliable.
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Great, CF MOTO v4 is coming hmm
Yap Cf Moto is a rising star 🤔🤔
I love motorcycles! I have owned eighteen over the past forty one years. I welcome any manufacture that can build a good quality bike. Until now I have not seen a quality Chinees bike on the road but perhaps they are coming. Having owned a KTM, the quality was good the reliability was not so good. So, in my thinking pairing with KTM is not a selling point to me. But then Japan, Italy and Germany are probably not pounding on the door to team up with the Chinees motorcycle companies. Only time will tell, I am not opposed to owning a good quality bike built warever. If moon men built a good bike I would give it a chance.
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To know the bike is capable, is by competing in competition like Aprilia, Ducati, Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki, KTM did.
Yap
WELL, THEY ARE MAKING SO MANY PARTS FOR MANY BRANDS, SO, why not. also many say China is communist but today they seem more Nationalist. If they make a good dependable machine I will try them. bet their triple engine is based on Yamaha's triple. I remember when I bought my first CB 750 Honda it had all the same stigmas...look at them today. today I love my 2018 Zed 900 Kawasaki Naked and my 2023 Harley soft tail standard. If they make something on par with the Agusta Brutal naked that is reasonalbly priced with seat height like my Kawasaki... helll ya!
Y'all riding european & japan bike and part from China? Good luck.. and Love all bike Made from China! Cheap..... Yes!
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I dont care if its china made or not.if i like it,i will buy it.
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Las estoy esperando tanto, cf Moto va tener como 14 nuevos modelos el año entrante
Love my adventure 800mt
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Nah. They are becoming expensive. Components are cheap and they just put on a lot of tech to compensate cheap parts.
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Well, good luck with that!
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imagine china now can make twin cylinder sounded like 3 cylinder for a low price. dang impressive!
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2 cylinder and 3 cylinder sound completely different 😅
@@soultopsy try the reviews on QJ motors SRK 400. the reason why i tell you people that chinese engine can make a 3 cylinder sound out of a 2 cylinder.
@@SKroadstar try reviewing qj motor srk 400 to see what i mean.
Would they make a quality one in a cheap price? C’mon! Made in china is made in china. Far behind!
Really good quality but do not show the subtitles
Next time i will add...it
British bikers said Japanese motorcycles were a threat………….
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Reviews of Chinese motorcycles or cars for the West are dubious to say the least, it is easy for manufacturers to choose key channels and platforms, offering substantial payments to put their models among European, Japanese or American models.
The quality and durability of the materials used for its construction are inferior to maximize benefits, safety and quality tests are in many cases vague or non-existent.
When we recommend a machine that is manufactured by companies without long experience and tradition, without motor culture, with the philosophy of building by reducing costs to maximize profits. Safety and reliability are concepts that still need to be matured in the Asian country. The health and lives of users is something that should be taken more seriously.
why is the volume so low on this video I'm at 100% and am stuggling to hear it.
Sorry i will try to make it better next time :)
Sorry i will try to make it better next time :)
Are the motorcycles and other vehicles produced by CFmoto reliable or not ?
I see remarkable progress for this company, especially in the global level.
Yes, they are good but not equal to the Japanese,
450sr faster than its rival but also produces heat, like old bikes.
@@SKroadstar thanks for replying 👍👍
the bad AI voice in this is hilarious.
And build quality and reliability
I own a CF Moto and Benelli bike and Benelli just copies Honda old engines but CF Moto is something else,
It is not like Japanese but still better than another Chinese bike like Benelli or Qmotorsrs
Since they are so good, why not challenge MotoGP?
Yes, they are in Moto 3 and they are working on Moto GP bike...u know a company like Suzuki and Kawasaki is unable to compete in Moto GP
Hmm maybe American motorcycle engineers can copy these machines blue prints. I believe our competitors have done the same! Haha
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I want a solid 999cc /998cc / 1000cc . No small stuff.
you will get one...not a big deal
You can buy with Benelli or Moto Moroni logos, plus KTM and Yamaha, no one will know.
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Absolutely garbage and very un reliable my friend has cf Moto and it sucks and no good service
But I have and, amazingly, only services are not as good plus expensive as Honda or Yamaha.
I can confirm the service is garbage, and supply even for an oil filter is a complication.
In my country, CFmoto has good dealership and service. Bikes themselves are good for the price, just lacking some refinement as compared to Japanese bikes (e.g. vibration, some jerkiness, etc.), plus most models don't have "electronic assistants", but that's OK for low-level bikes (like you won't need launch control for 60-70 hp bike). They are good beginner bikes in many segments.
@@Murad.bn2 Which engine isn't as smooth? What are you comparing what to?
@@chrispekel5709 on many cfmoto models accelerator control feels a bit strange when you roll it down - in the end rpm abruptly drops, creating sudden engine-braking pull.
Also reviewers say that on 700cc bikes there is some point when acceleration isn't linear, with sudden power increase in the middle. Nothing really bad.
Why not a 500cc triple to spice things up.
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I have no experience owning Chinese bikes, but it feels like the 1970's all over again with Japan taking over. The problem is Chinese parts SUCK and are faulty. I would never trust a Bezos Bike on the freeway until they use better steel, and welds. Otherwise, I see CFMoto as a true competitor, which is ironic considering it's from a Communist country where competition is frowned upon, on paper at least. We know all politics are hypocritical. Anyway, the start up mode with the lights is super cool and it's only a matter of time until the Japanese cruisers use the same idea.🍦
Cfmoto already showed with the SR450 what they can. No faulty parts. It rivals the ninja 400, CBR 500 and co. And it has definitely better parts than the Japanese bikes. China can rival with the Japanese bikes easily.
This title has been bothering me. And refused to click due it being Chinese motorcycle. But it's popped up Soo many times I thought I'd take a look more so to the comments
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"CF Moto is here to influence the minds of our easily persuaded individuals" LOL! That's supposed to be a point of pride?
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oh yeah they've got hp but what about durability?😅
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They can’t even make a durable stationary engine 🤣😂🤣
That 675sr better be faster than the cbr650r...
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Lol 😂 it's not about how cool it looks it's about the quality and from what iv seen it's just not there yet I don't have any faith in anything that come out of China where do they get there steel from?
I own a CF Moto and Benelli bike and Benelli just copies Honda old engines but CF Moto is something else,
It is not like Japanese but still better than another Chinese bike like Benelli or Qmotorsrs.
6k of daily use and counting with zero problems.
chase just did an iron butt (1k mi in 24 hours) on an ibex 800t
The thing is nobody who actually owns a CF Moto has had really any issues with it. All of this speculation about reliability is ridiculous. even the shops don't see them come in with issues.
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Euro manufacture bikes have beaten the japanese manufacturers bikes in EVERY comparison for 15 years strait!!.I own a superbike collection of both japanese and euro superbikes . So no bias . Euro bikes are just better in all aspects now (yes even in reliability) BUT ducati sells only 66k bikes a year bmw 120k japanese thew in the towel years ago ... The Chinese are going after the japapanese big markets that scares them and now the chinese cf moto 450ss just beat the honda cb500r the japanese need to make better bikes
I beg to differ , had 25 bikes over the last 18 years and BMW and Ducati sucked big time in terms of reliability - coincidence ?. perhaps but never issues with my japanese bikes - so I dont't buy your narrative.
@@rikherlaarhe owns a superbike Collection 🤭 on gta v
Japanese bikes consistently show higher reliability than European bikes. And are way cheaper and easier to get repaired. And CF Moto is actively trying to increase their service points in the US.
I live in a city of 300k and our local Indian dealership is also a licensed CF Moto dealership.
Where do you see any info on japanese reliability? Jenkins underwriting has euro manufacture reliability 14% better than japanese .
@jake88ci this channel literally has a whole other video talking about the wys japanese bikes are better than European
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I love CFMoto
No chinese cheap motorcycle or Car or anything that i can avoid buying for that matter 😊
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Yup going well in dream....go buy 1then see how! Having use then say gud?
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Less budget buy india made sport bike more durable
I won't buy Chinese cars or motorcycles.
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So where is your computer made?
Are the Chinese trying to reverse engineer motorbikes now. 😂🤣😂 They can’t even make decent stationary engines. 🙄
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It took Honda 50 years to get where it’s today. China has a lot of hard lessons to learn. All one has to do is look at the knock off small engines build in China. Total garbage. In about 10 years I’ll reconsider.
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Sorry, but I have my eye on a Papio.
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But these bikes does last as much as Japanese bikes..
Yap,
Anyone can make a good bike but not all manufacturer can give a good after sales service and parts avialability. Most chinese bikes are disposable bike. Very hard to get replacement parts.
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If it came to a chinese bike or nothing i would be happy to have nothing
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If you had that same mentality for every other product that you own then you would be wearing no clothes, your car would be missing 80% of its parts and you wouldn't be commenting on this video, because you'd have no phone or computer. People like you are too dumb to realize that there are good and bad, cheap and expensive Chinese products, Brain damaged social stigma 🤫
Weird way of saying u r too broke buy this bike. 😂
@@papi-sauce I have a Honda cbr 600 🤔
How much is a used bike worth. Nothing?
Am I tripping or is this a yammi noob video
You're not trippin'. I just watched his yesterday.
I come to a point in my life where I’m now looking for simplicity, back to the roots of motorcycle, just enjoying slow easy chill rides. So CF Moto might become top of the range in performances, but they are absolutely ugly, with no character. Not for me, thank you!
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If it’s like any of their other products. No after market parts and I’ll be that guy. It’s Chinese I’m not supporting them.
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With their famous chinese quality they won't go far. Keeway transmissions can't survive 5K miles
Yes I have Benelli too
Is the same as Keeway it's not too good in quality but the CF Moto is the same as the KTM quality is not excellent but decent, the only issue I notice is the heating in the CF Moto bikes... Otherwise perfect.
Nahh, I'll still stay with the European quality brands, but Japanese ones are also great but more boring
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Too bad their reliability and build quality is second rate.
you have not used one, hence you dont know... I own one and I can Guarantee they are on par with Japanese counterparts on reliability, and parts are more available.
@@tardeepsingh2863 wait 2 years when the cylinders lose the lining and you blow your engine. Then talk. Dumbazz.
@@tardeepsingh2863 It gets so old trying to explain that their new bikes are really good, and parts are no problems. I just give up
@@chrispekel5709 indeed, some ppl we cant just reckon with...
you clearly have never ridden one lol.
Who hurt CFmoto?
Most Mc owners can’t ride a Vespa to its ability. And only ride a few thousand miles a year. Completely irrelevant opinions.
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Not to snub the Chinese but my personal preference would be Italian bikes ,Japanese and british nothing more nothing less . Just Chinese lack original designs or sexy bodywork and are prone to copyright and over exaggerated specs on their products so Chinese manufacturers just stick to 50cc and 125cc commuter rubbish 👍🏻🍦🍦
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Built by slaves…
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That's obviously wrong information.Probably translation mistakes. Nowadays AI's works are not smart enough.
Bro information is correct, only ai voice is used...i will try to correct it..
@@nightflx title says "CF Moto 240hp V4". which part of the video mention that 240hp?
If ride motor, why not? Chinese bikes will be cheaper and value for money, in my country, a lot ppl died riding Japanese motorbikes too. Lol.
Pure shit products, I've been dealing with the idiots a couple of years. Totally impossible to get hold of spare parts, even a small parts makes the bike useless. For normal producers parts comes over night. 😅
Maaan, CF Moto bikes ride like a 40 year old coal radiators.
Yes produces too much heat ...
Communism more like totalitarianism
Are ktm the owners of cf moto..I believe so..
No, Cf Moto only working with KTM or Yamaha, no sharehold by KTM...
I value my life to much to go cheap with made in china rubbish I'll stick to Italian beauties thanks
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