Go Irish Go, my husband and I were there in section 119. I've been an Irish fan my whole life and this was my very first game to go to and what a game!
Even though Notre Dame refuses to commit to a full ACC football schedule, you might as well call this a "conference" game anyway, at least for Stanford. Another far away trip against a team that's only playing them every year just so they don't have to play at USC every year! Notre Dame loves playing in California every November. It's going to be so much fun when the B1G tells Notre Dame and USC that they have to move their rivalry game at USC on the even number years to October starting in 2026 due to the B1G wanting conference games only for November!
I have no idea what your delusional rant is truly trying to get at as a bottom line??? A little history for you: 1. ND and USC play every year ... for the past several decades while I have been alive, in even numbered years, the game is USC's home game played at the LA Coliseum in late November (typically it's the Saturday immediately following Thanksgiving); in odd numbered years, it's ND's home game in South Bend, IN and it's typically played in mid-October. 2. The game has been played continuously every season -- except for a few years during WW II, and in 2020 due to the COVID pandemic -- since the late 1920s. Legend says the game was the brainchild of ND's iconic coach Knute Rockne and USC's coach Howard Jones ... but that their wives were the true spark that pushed for it. Regardless, the game was always played in late November or early December around the Thanksgiving timeframe to reduce the amount of lost classroom time for the football players because visiting teams travelled the great distance by train, and it would take several days. When Fr. Hesburgh became President of ND he decided to spend the $$$ to fly the team to California to minimize lost classroom time. 3. But in the early 1960s, new USC football coach John McKay threatened to cancel the series unless ND agreed to move the game on its schedule to no later than mid-October in the years when it was ND's home game to host BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT HIS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA BOYS TO HAVE TO PLAY IN COLD WEATHER !!! And he was able to get away with the power play because McKay made the ultimatum deemand at a time when ND football was struggling -- so they wanted to retain the USC rivalry game. THAT'S HOW the annual ND-USC game, which had always previously been contested around Thanksgiving (no matter whose home game it was or where it was played) suddenly morphed into a game that remained around Thanksgiving weekend in warmer LA, BUT was FORCED to be NO LATER THAN OCTOBER when ND hosted the game in Northern Indiana. Given that history, given the fact that all teams fly to distant road games now (and have flown for 60+ years), and given the fact that USC is (at least in theory) supposedly at risk to have to play some road game(s) in the "cold Midwest" during November by virtue of voluntarily joining the Big 10, I think it would be altogether fitting and proper for the ND-USC game to RETURN TO ITS ROOTS of ALWAYS (originally) BEING PLAYED during Thanksgiving timeframe REGARDLESS WHERE the game is played/which team is hosting the game !!! USC could continue finishing its season with cross-town rival UCLA andcross-Nation rival ND every season. And the ND-USC game would never disrupt the Big 10's rivalry weekend involving Michigan v. Ohio State which is played on the same day. As for the ND-Stanford game, that "series" as a more-or-less "annual" event only came to such regular fruition when Jack Swarbrick became ND's Athletic Director. ND and Stanford played a few home-and-home series from time to time in the 1980s and 1990s, but Swarbrick opted to make it a standing commitment on ND's schedule. He did this for two main reasons: a) Because Swarbrick had graduated college from ND and law school from Stanford Law, so he wanted to feature both his schools in an annual game and thereby celebrate two schools with high academic priorities every year; and b) Because, starting in the late 1990s/early 2000s, ND coaches wanted to have an annual end-of-season recruiting trip to California that they could tack-on after the USC game in even years (when the ND-USC game was in LA) and after the Stanford game in odd years (when the ND-Stanford game was held in Palo Alto). Prior to regularly scheduling road games at Stanford in odd years, ND often scheduled road games in odd years AT Miami (with coaches making a follow-on recruiting visit in talent-rich Florida). Indeed, because of the USC/McKay DEMANDS successfully made upon ND in the early 1960s, when ND AD Swarbrick formulated the ongoing ND-Stanford series, he made it an inverse mirror of the ND-USC game schedule. That's why ND hosts Stanford in October at Notre Dame during even numbered years, and Stanford hosts ND in odd numbered years during Thanksgiving weekend. So I have no idea what you're talking about or what you're trying to say or suggest when you write that "[ND]'s only playing them [i.e., Stanford] every year just so they don't have to play at USC every year!" (??????) ND already DOES play USC every season (and has been doing so for almost a century now), and under NO circumstances would ND EVER agree play AT USC EVERY year !!!!!!!!! Why on Earth WOULD (or should) ND EVER AGREE TO DO THAT? Such a foolish arrangement would make NO sense !!! As for the glee you seem to be taking over the prospect of "the B1G tell[ing] Notre Dame and USC that they have to move their rivalry game at USC on the even number years to October starting in 2026 due to the B1G WANTING conference games only for November," I wonder WHY you care so much about two schools that are clearly NOT "your" alma mater, WHY you're "sticking your nose into" two schools' business that isn't yours, and WHY you appear to have so much hatred and animosity towards Notre Dame and USC (ND in particular) -- i.e. your clain that "it's going to be so much fun ..." If I had to guess, I'd lay money that you're a fan/supporter of U Michigan -- a VILLAINOUS school that: a) REPEATEDLY engaged in religious bigotry and treachery (beginning OVER a century ago) when anti-Catholic Fielding Yost and Fritz Crisler REJECTED MULTIPLE requests by ND to join the Western Conference (and its successors the Big 9 and Big 10) ... and BLACKBALLED ND; b) REPEATEDLY threatened, coerced, and bullied other Big 10 schools into NOT scheduling games against ND -- acts of utter VILLAINY -- specifically designed to hurt and ultimately destroy Notre Dame football in the early years ... which blew up in Michigan's face because ND was thereby forced to travel all over the country to find enough teams to comprise a schedule (because ND couldn't find gegraphically proximate Big 10 teams willing to play them) ... which DIRECTLY RESULTED in Notre Dame becoming the MOST POPULAR TEAM in the entire NATION with LOTS of fans EVERYWHERE (instead of Michigan being primarily relagated to having a mere regional fan following); and c) CONTINUOUSLY to this day has sought to meddle in ND's affairs and make things difficult for ND. With a mega-conference as HUGE as the Big 10 has grown, there is absolutely NO "NEED" whatsoever to meddle in the USC-ND game scheduling; it's simply something Michigan (which arrogantly deigns to think of itself as the entire Big 10) "WANTS" to do simply because it hates ND. There is NO reason whatsoever that USC and ND can't continue to play in LA during even years on "rivalry" Saturday when Michigan and Ohio State play, and this can be done without interrupting any Big 10 school or conference tradition; and in odd years, the ND-USC game can either return to being played at Notre Dame during Thanksgiving as it always used to be prior to the early 1960s -- OR the ND-USC game can remain in October during odd years while the USC-UCLA game can continue to be the final game of the regular season during odd years for those two new Big 10 schools. USC can simply play a Big 10 conference game a week (or more) prior to when "conference play" mandatorily begins. (I would think a viable partner for such a game would be another NEW Big 10 entry from the former Pac 12 such as Oregon or Washington). But, again, the bottom line is that the ND-USC game should NOT "HAVE" to move at all; it can stay put as is without upsetting anythikng the Big 10 does. It would also be hilarious if ND joined the Big 10 (ND already belongs to the Big 10 in men's ice hockey) and the ND-USC game was made the final game of the regular season for both teams every year. Never say never :)
Stanford is being obliterated week after week. The Syracuse game was a fluke. It doesn't matter who they are playing unless it is someone like Cal Poly. The program has stunk for seemingly forever. The days of Andrew Luck and CMC are long gone. There is no longer a PAC 12. Some genius decided to attach Stanford to the ACC whose worst team is still way better than Stanford and this despite the fact that the last time I checked Stanford was on the Pacific Coast and not the Atlantic Coast. There is just no way that a school with Stanford's academic standards which are equivalent to those of the top echelons of the Ivy League should even think about trying to compete in football with anything other than schools like Sacramento State, Fresno State, San Jose State or Cal Poly. I feel sorry for the fact that all these fine young Stanford players who excel in the classroom and will all be successful in their post-Stanford careers have to go out week after week and get torched. Time to give up football or at least play on a "level playing field." If Stanford was in the Northeast they would play in the Ivy League. In any case there are never more than about 15,000 spectators in Stanford's bandbox of a home stadium for home games so the fan base does not exist and they have no following in the Bay Area unlike in Southern California where USC and UCLA have enormous fan bases and fill the Rose Bowl and the Coliseum for home games.
@@ND25CHAMPS - That's because you are a Retro-Eagle-Tiny-Austin-Robert-Dayton-Explorer-Dukes Irish fan! Your university is responsible for why Stan and Cal were chosen over Memphis and Tulane, let alone the bad TV contract that has resulted in Florida State and Clemson fighting back!
Well done rant. *Stanford* and *California* were once the *Harvard* and *Princeton* of the west. Now they are the *Liberty* and *Incarnate Word* of the west!
I don't understand your rant @thomascox4014. ALL teams (except perhaps the traditional football mills of the SEC and Big 10) experience cyclical ups and downs. Some "downs" are more protracted than others and/or the "ups." Stanford is simply in a "down" cycle in football. ND hasn't won a National Championship in over 35 years, and during that timeframe, Stanford had more than its fair share of wins against ND. So ND won today -- that's nothing to cry about. Stanford is 2-4 but could easily be 3-3 -- which is NOT being "obliterated week after week." Stanford crushed a Cal-Poly cupcake, scored a big win at Syracuse cross-country, and played TCU -- which was in the National Championship playoff just a couple of years ago -- very tough (losing only by a TD); as such, the Cardinal were only 1 score away from a victory. Stanford lost 2 cross-country road games badly to the #10 and #11 ranked teams in the country -- no disgrace in that. The only dubious game might be the relative thumping at home to Virginia Tech -- but even that's debatable because Va Tech is a decent team. Stanford has other remaining games it can win. I fundamentally DISAGREE that the ACC's "worst team is still way better than Stanford;" it's simply not true. Stanford has already beaten an ACC team (Syracuse) which is NOT the conference's ""worst." Moreover, there are other sports in which Stanford is a national contender -- and will be regardless to which "conference" it belongs. The fact that there is "no longer a PAC-12" is NOT Stanford's "fault." The "fault" belongs to the greedy and villainous schools USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington -- AND especially to the dirty Big 10 (led by super VILLAIN Michigan) who POACHED just those few PAC-12 teams, thereby guaranteeing the PAC-12's collapse and death. But Stanford did NOT "HAVE" to join the ACC. Stanford COULD have aligned itself with a more geographically proximate one such as the Mountain West -- or even spearheaded the creation/merger of a NEW Pacific Conference between the remnants of the old PAC-12 and various schools in the Rocky Mountain region. Yet Stanford CHOSE to pursue the ACC -- likely for $$$ and because of the outstanding academic prestiege of MANY ACC schools such as Notre Dame (an ACC member in all sports except football and ice hockey [the ACC doesn't sponsor ice hockey, so ND competes in the Big 10 for men's hockey], Duke, Wake Forest, UNC, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, U Miami, and Clemson at a minimum. Cal joining the ACC adds another high quality academic school too. In fact, ND lobbied the ACC on behalf ofStanford and Cal to provide those two schools a safe landing spot in a reasonably lucrative conference rather than having them fend for themselves in some minor conference. With all due respect, I also think it's "bad form," unsportsmanlike, and quite a bit "high on the horse" to proclaim that Stanford should eschew playing "tough" teams in football and only compete against what some (including you apparently) deem are academically "lesser" state schools ... that, presumably, Stanford can beat more/fairly easily. Really? Stanford -- having the history of the great Ernie Nevers, John Brodie, Gene Washington, Jim Plunkett, Randy Vataha, James Lofton, Ed McCaffrey, Christian McCaffrey, John Elway, Andrew Luck, and many others too numerous to mention -- should now suddenly relegate itself to play a slate of "lesser" schools ... just so it can "win" ????????? That's embarrassing to suggest that. ND hasn't "won" in decades, yet it doesn't cry or shy away from scheduling games agaist USC (annually), and periodically teams such as Texas A&M, U Texas, Oklahoma, Georgia, Alabama, Clemson, Florida, FSU, Miami, LSU, Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State, Penn State, etc. -- anyone and everyone, basically. With all due respect, it's also quite arrogant to pretend that Stanford is so "academically elite" that multiple ACC schools aren't every bit as "elite." Notre Dame and Duke are EVERY BIT as "academically elite" as is Stanford, yet they aren't trying to play "nothing but cupcakes." And many other ACC schools are reasonably in the same "elite academic" stratosphere as well: Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, U Virginia, Wake Forest, U Miami, Clemson, UNC Chapel Hill, Boston College, etc. NONE of those schools are clamoring to play "only cupcakes" either !!! Not sure what you mean about the lament about playing in the Ivy League. Since Stanford CHOSE to join the ACC -- and the additional lengthy travel that would entail -- WHY DIDN'T Stanford petition to join the Ivy League (since you evidently believe Stanford is academically an Ivy League school)? Could it be that the Ivy League allows NO football scholarships at all AND they have NO lucrative TV contract worthy of any mention? Rather, Stanford (and Cal) should be thankful that they get to be in an academically BETTER conference than the old PAC-12 conference ... now competing on a regular basis against academic giants such as Notre Dame (called the Catholic Ivy), Duke (a Baptist/Methodist Southern Ivy equivalent), Wake Forest (another Baptist/Methodist Southern Ivy equivalent), U Virginia -- Thomas Jefferson's school -- U Miami, Clemson, and Boston College -- a Jesuit stalwart every bit as good an an Ivy too ... plus Cal-Tech scientific equivalent schools such as Georgia Tech and Virginia Tech. As for the lack of fan attendance, that's the team's problem. Win more games "and they will come."
@@wingedbuffalo4670 Stanford kids sure do write a lot. A whole lot. Is that like a journalism/English major school os something? I remember after the win a Syracuse, Stanford fans were bragging about how easy the ACC is and how they were going to be great this year. Well, I guess reality has hit- smack dab right in the face. Seems to me like ND put you in a headlock and went to work on you. It bees that way sometimes. Live with it. Live with it.
Idiot radio announcer Ryan Harris owes Lion nation a huge apology. PSU had a great comeback win against USC - the coliseum is NOT an easy place to win at. It's always a tough road game. Who the hell have the Irish played this year? One ranked team on their schedule - Texas A & M. And then Notre Dame loses to Northern Illinois!! Give me a break! Stanford is lousy at best!
Lol the Coliseum is a tough road game? That’s laughable. PSU needed OT to beat a down and out USC team. The same USC team that was dominated by Minnesota last week.
Go Irish Go, my husband and I were there in section 119. I've been an Irish fan my whole life and this was my very first game to go to and what a game!
A great game for Irish fans. I don't think Stanford fans enjoyed it as much.
Great win for the Irish!!!
Nice win 👏 Congratulations 🏈 #Go Irish ☘️
Thanks!
LET’S GO! 🍀
Number 13 needs to keep on getting better GT is going to be a test great. Win Irish. 🍀🍀
NOTRE DAME WIN AGAIN! NEXT WEK IT'S THE FIGHTING IRISH VS THE YELLOW JACKETS 💯
I’ll never understand replays in a highlight video
I was there! Stanford got smacked! After their 1st drive 49 unanswered points. With an 1hr and a half rain delay! Lol
IRISH EYES ARE SMILING UPON YA...!!!
If we can stay with only one loss, Riley Leonard will have a shot at the Heisman
Something's wrong with Stanford man. They usually compete better with ND. I think the Atlantic Coast traveling is hurting their health.
Why is there a big black ribbon across the bottom?
They rank one slot below ND scholastically!
ND still drops a spot in the rankings go figure
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Even though Notre Dame refuses to commit to a full ACC football schedule, you might as well call this a "conference" game anyway, at least for Stanford. Another far away trip against a team that's only playing them every year just so they don't have to play at USC every year! Notre Dame loves playing in California every November.
It's going to be so much fun when the B1G tells Notre Dame and USC that they have to move their rivalry game at USC on the even number years to October starting in 2026 due to the B1G wanting conference games only for November!
I'm pretty sure they play USC every year.
I have no idea what your delusional rant is truly trying to get at as a bottom line??? A little history for you:
1. ND and USC play every year ... for the past several decades while I have been alive, in even numbered years, the game is USC's home game played at the LA Coliseum in late November (typically it's the Saturday immediately following Thanksgiving); in odd numbered years, it's ND's home game in South Bend, IN and it's typically played in mid-October.
2. The game has been played continuously every season -- except for a few years during WW II, and in 2020 due to the COVID pandemic -- since the late 1920s. Legend says the game was the brainchild of ND's iconic coach Knute Rockne and USC's coach Howard Jones ... but that their wives were the true spark that pushed for it. Regardless, the game was always played in late November or early December around the Thanksgiving timeframe to reduce the amount of lost classroom time for the football players because visiting teams travelled the great distance by train, and it would take several days. When Fr. Hesburgh became President of ND he decided to spend the $$$ to fly the team to California to minimize lost classroom time.
3. But in the early 1960s, new USC football coach John McKay threatened to cancel the series unless ND agreed to move the game on its schedule to no later than mid-October in the years when it was ND's home game to host BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT HIS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA BOYS TO HAVE TO PLAY IN COLD WEATHER !!! And he was able to get away with the power play because McKay made the ultimatum deemand at a time when ND football was struggling -- so they wanted to retain the USC rivalry game. THAT'S HOW the annual ND-USC game, which had always previously been contested around Thanksgiving (no matter whose home game it was or where it was played) suddenly morphed into a game that remained around Thanksgiving weekend in warmer LA, BUT was FORCED to be NO LATER THAN OCTOBER when ND hosted the game in Northern Indiana.
Given that history, given the fact that all teams fly to distant road games now (and have flown for 60+ years), and given the fact that USC is (at least in theory) supposedly at risk to have to play some road game(s) in the "cold Midwest" during November by virtue of voluntarily joining the Big 10, I think it would be altogether fitting and proper for the ND-USC game to RETURN TO ITS ROOTS of ALWAYS (originally) BEING PLAYED during Thanksgiving timeframe REGARDLESS WHERE the game is played/which team is hosting the game !!! USC could continue finishing its season with cross-town rival UCLA andcross-Nation rival ND every season. And the ND-USC game would never disrupt the Big 10's rivalry weekend involving Michigan v. Ohio State which is played on the same day.
As for the ND-Stanford game, that "series" as a more-or-less "annual" event only came to such regular fruition when Jack Swarbrick became ND's Athletic Director. ND and Stanford played a few home-and-home series from time to time in the 1980s and 1990s, but Swarbrick opted to make it a standing commitment on ND's schedule. He did this for two main reasons:
a) Because Swarbrick had graduated college from ND and law school from Stanford Law, so he wanted to feature both his schools in an annual game and thereby celebrate two schools with high academic priorities every year; and
b) Because, starting in the late 1990s/early 2000s, ND coaches wanted to have an annual end-of-season recruiting trip to California that they could tack-on after the USC game in even years (when the ND-USC game was in LA) and after the Stanford game in odd years (when the ND-Stanford game was held in Palo Alto). Prior to regularly scheduling road games at Stanford in odd years, ND often scheduled road games in odd years AT Miami (with coaches making a follow-on recruiting visit in talent-rich Florida).
Indeed, because of the USC/McKay DEMANDS successfully made upon ND in the early 1960s, when ND AD Swarbrick formulated the ongoing ND-Stanford series, he made it an inverse mirror of the ND-USC game schedule. That's why ND hosts Stanford in October at Notre Dame during even numbered years, and Stanford hosts ND in odd numbered years during Thanksgiving weekend. So I have no idea what you're talking about or what you're trying to say or suggest when you write that "[ND]'s only playing them [i.e., Stanford] every year just so they don't have to play at USC every year!" (??????) ND already DOES play USC every season (and has been doing so for almost a century now), and under NO circumstances would ND EVER agree play AT USC EVERY year !!!!!!!!! Why on Earth WOULD (or should) ND EVER AGREE TO DO THAT? Such a foolish arrangement would make NO sense !!!
As for the glee you seem to be taking over the prospect of "the B1G tell[ing] Notre Dame and USC that they have to move their rivalry game at USC on the even number years to October starting in 2026 due to the B1G WANTING conference games only for November," I wonder WHY you care so much about two schools that are clearly NOT "your" alma mater, WHY you're "sticking your nose into" two schools' business that isn't yours, and WHY you appear to have so much hatred and animosity towards Notre Dame and USC (ND in particular) -- i.e. your clain that "it's going to be so much fun ..." If I had to guess, I'd lay money that you're a fan/supporter of U Michigan -- a VILLAINOUS school that:
a) REPEATEDLY engaged in religious bigotry and treachery (beginning OVER a century ago) when anti-Catholic Fielding Yost and Fritz Crisler REJECTED MULTIPLE requests by ND to join the Western Conference (and its successors the Big 9 and Big 10) ... and BLACKBALLED ND;
b) REPEATEDLY threatened, coerced, and bullied other Big 10 schools into NOT scheduling games against ND -- acts of utter VILLAINY -- specifically designed to hurt and ultimately destroy Notre Dame football in the early years ... which blew up in Michigan's face because ND was thereby forced to travel all over the country to find enough teams to comprise a schedule (because ND couldn't find gegraphically proximate Big 10 teams willing to play them) ... which DIRECTLY RESULTED in Notre Dame becoming the MOST POPULAR TEAM in the entire NATION with LOTS of fans EVERYWHERE (instead of Michigan being primarily relagated to having a mere regional fan following); and
c) CONTINUOUSLY to this day has sought to meddle in ND's affairs and make things difficult for ND.
With a mega-conference as HUGE as the Big 10 has grown, there is absolutely NO "NEED" whatsoever to meddle in the USC-ND game scheduling; it's simply something Michigan (which arrogantly deigns to think of itself as the entire Big 10) "WANTS" to do simply because it hates ND. There is NO reason whatsoever that USC and ND can't continue to play in LA during even years on "rivalry" Saturday when Michigan and Ohio State play, and this can be done without interrupting any Big 10 school or conference tradition; and in odd years, the ND-USC game can either return to being played at Notre Dame during Thanksgiving as it always used to be prior to the early 1960s -- OR the ND-USC game can remain in October during odd years while the USC-UCLA game can continue to be the final game of the regular season during odd years for those two new Big 10 schools. USC can simply play a Big 10 conference game a week (or more) prior to when "conference play" mandatorily begins. (I would think a viable partner for such a game would be another NEW Big 10 entry from the former Pac 12 such as Oregon or Washington). But, again, the bottom line is that the ND-USC game should NOT "HAVE" to move at all; it can stay put as is without upsetting anythikng the Big 10 does.
It would also be hilarious if ND joined the Big 10 (ND already belongs to the Big 10 in men's ice hockey) and the ND-USC game was made the final game of the regular season for both teams every year. Never say never :)
They do.
ND only plays in California in November because wimpy USC & Stanford won’t play in South Bend in November.
Stanford is being obliterated week after week. The Syracuse game was a fluke. It doesn't matter who they are playing unless it is someone like Cal Poly. The program has stunk for seemingly forever. The days of Andrew Luck and CMC are long gone. There is no longer a PAC 12. Some genius decided to attach Stanford to the ACC whose worst team is still way better than Stanford and this despite the fact that the last time I checked Stanford was on the Pacific Coast and not the Atlantic Coast. There is just no way that a school with Stanford's academic standards which are equivalent to those of the top echelons of the Ivy League should even think about trying to compete in football with anything other than schools like Sacramento State, Fresno State, San Jose State or Cal Poly. I feel sorry for the fact that all these fine young Stanford players who excel in the classroom and will all be successful in their post-Stanford careers have to go out week after week and get torched. Time to give up football or at least play on a "level playing field." If Stanford was in the Northeast they would play in the Ivy League. In any case there are never more than about 15,000 spectators in Stanford's bandbox of a home stadium for home games so the fan base does not exist and they have no following in the Bay Area unlike in Southern California where USC and UCLA have enormous fan bases and fill the Rose Bowl and the Coliseum for home games.
Didn’t read anything you wrote. But it looks like you wrote a lot….
Go Irish ☘️
@@ND25CHAMPS - That's because you are a
Retro-Eagle-Tiny-Austin-Robert-Dayton-Explorer-Dukes
Irish fan! Your university is responsible for why Stan and Cal were chosen over Memphis and Tulane, let alone the bad TV contract that has resulted in Florida State and Clemson fighting back!
Well done rant. *Stanford* and *California* were once the *Harvard* and *Princeton* of the west. Now they are the *Liberty* and *Incarnate Word* of the west!
I don't understand your rant @thomascox4014. ALL teams (except perhaps the traditional football mills of the SEC and Big 10) experience cyclical ups and downs. Some "downs" are more protracted than others and/or the "ups." Stanford is simply in a "down" cycle in football. ND hasn't won a National Championship in over 35 years, and during that timeframe, Stanford had more than its fair share of wins against ND. So ND won today -- that's nothing to cry about. Stanford is 2-4 but could easily be 3-3 -- which is NOT being "obliterated week after week." Stanford crushed a Cal-Poly cupcake, scored a big win at Syracuse cross-country, and played TCU -- which was in the National Championship playoff just a couple of years ago -- very tough (losing only by a TD); as such, the Cardinal were only 1 score away from a victory. Stanford lost 2 cross-country road games badly to the #10 and #11 ranked teams in the country -- no disgrace in that. The only dubious game might be the relative thumping at home to Virginia Tech -- but even that's debatable because Va Tech is a decent team. Stanford has other remaining games it can win. I fundamentally DISAGREE that the ACC's "worst team is still way better than Stanford;" it's simply not true. Stanford has already beaten an ACC team (Syracuse) which is NOT the conference's ""worst." Moreover, there are other sports in which Stanford is a national contender -- and will be regardless to which "conference" it belongs.
The fact that there is "no longer a PAC-12" is NOT Stanford's "fault." The "fault" belongs to the greedy and villainous schools USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington -- AND especially to the dirty Big 10 (led by super VILLAIN Michigan) who POACHED just those few PAC-12 teams, thereby guaranteeing the PAC-12's collapse and death. But Stanford did NOT "HAVE" to join the ACC. Stanford COULD have aligned itself with a more geographically proximate one such as the Mountain West -- or even spearheaded the creation/merger of a NEW Pacific Conference between the remnants of the old PAC-12 and various schools in the Rocky Mountain region. Yet Stanford CHOSE to pursue the ACC -- likely for $$$ and because of the outstanding academic prestiege of MANY ACC schools such as Notre Dame (an ACC member in all sports except football and ice hockey [the ACC doesn't sponsor ice hockey, so ND competes in the Big 10 for men's hockey], Duke, Wake Forest, UNC, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, U Miami, and Clemson at a minimum. Cal joining the ACC adds another high quality academic school too. In fact, ND lobbied the ACC on behalf ofStanford and Cal to provide those two schools a safe landing spot in a reasonably lucrative conference rather than having them fend for themselves in some minor conference.
With all due respect, I also think it's "bad form," unsportsmanlike, and quite a bit "high on the horse" to proclaim that Stanford should eschew playing "tough" teams in football and only compete against what some (including you apparently) deem are academically "lesser" state schools ... that, presumably, Stanford can beat more/fairly easily. Really? Stanford -- having the history of the great Ernie Nevers, John Brodie, Gene Washington, Jim Plunkett, Randy Vataha, James Lofton, Ed McCaffrey, Christian McCaffrey, John Elway, Andrew Luck, and many others too numerous to mention -- should now suddenly relegate itself to play a slate of "lesser" schools ... just so it can "win" ????????? That's embarrassing to suggest that. ND hasn't "won" in decades, yet it doesn't cry or shy away from scheduling games agaist USC (annually), and periodically teams such as Texas A&M, U Texas, Oklahoma, Georgia, Alabama, Clemson, Florida, FSU, Miami, LSU, Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State, Penn State, etc. -- anyone and everyone, basically. With all due respect, it's also quite arrogant to pretend that Stanford is so "academically elite" that multiple ACC schools aren't every bit as "elite." Notre Dame and Duke are EVERY BIT as "academically elite" as is Stanford, yet they aren't trying to play "nothing but cupcakes." And many other ACC schools are reasonably in the same "elite academic" stratosphere as well: Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, U Virginia, Wake Forest, U Miami, Clemson, UNC Chapel Hill, Boston College, etc. NONE of those schools are clamoring to play "only cupcakes" either !!!
Not sure what you mean about the lament about playing in the Ivy League. Since Stanford CHOSE to join the ACC -- and the additional lengthy travel that would entail -- WHY DIDN'T Stanford petition to join the Ivy League (since you evidently believe Stanford is academically an Ivy League school)? Could it be that the Ivy League allows NO football scholarships at all AND they have NO lucrative TV contract worthy of any mention? Rather, Stanford (and Cal) should be thankful that they get to be in an academically BETTER conference than the old PAC-12 conference ... now competing on a regular basis against academic giants such as Notre Dame (called the Catholic Ivy), Duke (a Baptist/Methodist Southern Ivy equivalent), Wake Forest (another Baptist/Methodist Southern Ivy equivalent), U Virginia -- Thomas Jefferson's school -- U Miami, Clemson, and Boston College -- a Jesuit stalwart every bit as good an an Ivy too ... plus Cal-Tech scientific equivalent schools such as Georgia Tech and Virginia Tech.
As for the lack of fan attendance, that's the team's problem. Win more games "and they will come."
@@wingedbuffalo4670 Stanford kids sure do write a lot. A whole lot. Is that like a journalism/English major school os something?
I remember after the win a Syracuse, Stanford fans were bragging about how easy the ACC is and how they were going to be great this year. Well, I guess reality has hit- smack dab right in the face. Seems to me like ND put you in a headlock and went to work on you.
It bees that way sometimes. Live with it. Live with it.
Stanford must be awful
Go Irish ☘️
Go Irish 😅
Asleep at the wheel? Stanford has been bad for a long time, but idiotically going to the ACC has just made them worse in ALL sports!
Unlike your moms head
We are 😂
Idiot radio announcer Ryan Harris owes Lion nation a huge apology. PSU had a great comeback win against USC - the coliseum is NOT an easy place to win at. It's always a tough road game. Who the hell have the Irish played this year? One ranked team on their schedule - Texas A & M. And then Notre Dame loses to Northern Illinois!! Give me a break! Stanford is lousy at best!
Louisville was ranked when they played ND, USC may well be ranked. NIU was even ranked for a couple weeks. So your statement is false.
Lol the Coliseum is a tough road game? That’s laughable. PSU needed OT to beat a down and out USC team. The same USC team that was dominated by Minnesota last week.