Group Breaker CAUGHT Swapping Optic DOWNTOWN Card?
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2022
- Oh no, did a sports card group breaker just pull off another scam?
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It’s only fitting that a Brandon Cooks card was in the pack 😂🤣
Cook that pack
I know right I was thinking the same thing LOL
Blackball these breakers who are shady. Karma will get them eventually. I believe this.
@@dougnishino1385 Forget Karma, DON’T BREAK WITH THEM!!
Gambling addiction. It lets them gamble without having to pay for a full box.
The cards must be in front of the camera at all times. This is the #1 rule for breakers and must always be followed no matter what or people have every right to accuse you of something,especially when the card goes off camera for over a minute
Yeah but then how could you steal it?
@@sweetswing1 that’s the whole point dummy you can’t if the cards stays on camera the whole time
@@scottjohnston2799 I’m pretty sure Faksakes was being sarcastic
@@Scotto6977 i sure hope so haha
@@scottjohnston2799 that one flew right over your head lol
Rule #1 of breaking = KEEP THE CARDS ON THE CAMERA. So damn simple.
Unless you want to steal it.
There are so many scumbags in the hobby.
Never took part in a break and never would; this guy is obviously another crook.
I can't believe anyone buys into breaks with all the weasels in this community.
I would rather drag my balls through ten miles of broken glass than join a group break.
There is good breakers out there. You just stick to them. Thats it. I found out fast after coming back into this world after 25+ away. There just is no replacement/alternative to or for good people in this business!
Dynasty Breaks is the only one I trust.
Exactly. At this point the people that still buy into it deserve to get fucked over
Barbell breaks is good they have a UA-cam channel also they are honest breakers
I had the cowboys in a contenders break. The year Dak and Zeke were rookies and their cards were going nuts. Dak was a redemption that year. Well a redemption came up and the dude took it off camera and said "I wanna see what team this guy is on first". And when he put it back it was some scrub player. I called him out and I got blasted for calling him out. It was like I was the scammer. Rule #1.. never take a card off camera. They're not even your cards. U already sold them, ur just opening them for us.
Rule number 1- stop buying breaks and ruining the hobby
That might be rule #1 to you but the real rule #1 is stop giving these clown money.
@@d4n0wnz I agree with both of you. But I'm just saying rule #1 as a breaker. But I agree with yall. There are the reason the hobby is unaffordable to 90% of the people. They are getting rich off of opening cards for people, it's insane.
@@raidersacdc4892 I agree 100%. Stop supporting the breakers and the card prices will drop because it's the only way most can afford to even touch their product.
My own personal would be to never buy into a break. I'd rather buy cards myself and get what I get.
That is so crazy! He frantically tries to find the replacement card. So funny
I don't understand these guys. They know that if they pull a huge card, they are going to steal it. So why don't they have a replacement card close by so they can swap quickly? Instead they do the fake excitement over and over.🤣
Any breaker shook over pulling a Jaylen Waddle Downtown is someone who doesn't deserve your money.
LMAO
@@jackoryan9220 that’s an odd goal as a breaker, no?
Act like we've been here before lol
I think he wanted to do a swap, he had the intention of swapping if the player on the card was a monster like Brady, or Mahomes, or Lawrence, etc. So I think once they saw it wasnt a big name they brought the card back onscreen. He broke the #1 coveted rule of breaking. Never under any circumstances move boxes, packs, or cards off camera in the middle of a break. That alone would ruin a breakers reputation.
Bingo! Give this man a prize
why do ppl pay others to open cards for them. opening is the best part
Because people don't have access to cards where they live. Not all walmarts stock cards and it's easy to find anything you're looking for online. I'm not finding 2019 anything in stores most likely
cause we wanna see some dips
Group breaks are cheaper to afford higher end products.
Only way I'd do it if it was an expensive box or break where you'd go in for 20-50 and get at least a pack or so. Whereas to get in at a card shop itd be like $200. Or like it's a break where you get a whole team. Or a gamble break where you can take a whole box or more if your pack has the lowest number or whatever preset conditions were met. Sometimes it's worth it. To take a whole box or case by pulling the lowest numbered card. If somebody doesn't have the money to buy boxes and boxes they can come up. I would do it if it was a set I liked or trying to get some low number card.
Because more often than not people don’t chase cards of all teams just certain players or teams
As we've seen from all previous breakers who have scammed and stolen over the years, there is 1 consistency amongst almost 100% of them. They all repeat themselves all the time. When they steal, they don't know what to say but to repeat whatever word last came out of their mouths multiple times. Sweat, sweat, sweat, sweat amongst other things he repeated.
I’ve never pulled a waddle, I’ve never pulled a waddle… yes, you have and you just used it to swap out
I hope it's not a Fields...and keeps repeating this to fill silence. Absolutely was up to someone
I've found this as well. I think it also helps to cover any noises in background from their shenanigans. If someone's repeating themselves that much you would have thought they got dinged in the head
That "discombobulated" guy was the worstttt
Terrible actor: “I Don’t even know what to do here. I don’t even know what to do here…”
Seems he was buying time doing that
“It’s stuck to Levis” dudes just a lying pos
He came, he saw, he dipped.
The way he grabbed the cards with his index finger, he knew what he was doing, a criminal breaker.
hes def doing SOMETHING, there is no reason at all to be fumbling around like that and taking the cards off camera all before showing the actual card
Wether he switched cards or not he's definitely lying about it being stuck. That card wasn't stuck to the card in front of it when he was going through the pack.
The fact that he took the card off camera is wrong, but aside from that theres no logical reason to take it off that long unless you were fumbling around for a replacement
If the card is real by beckett n psa idgaf what he does off camera huh do u wanna sell it I BUY
@@cowboysfan5852 buddy it’s a break.
@@cowboysfan5852 You don't care huh? You don't care that the cards could have been switched? Keep buying into breaks then, you're exactly who these crooks want in their breaks
You don't read very well, I believe this break shit is absolutely funny cuz I have never bought into anything like this funny scamming bullshit, been collecting for 40 yrs and have always dealt with only 2 people who don't even live in the US and no one but them n my close family that know about my 40 yr collection, you guys have to worry about this break shit not me, and learn how to read correctly
@@cowboysfan5852 What are you talking about? Your original comment to me still makes absolutely no sense.
Looks like that card Waddled out his ass to me.
100% dont but breaks anymore due to lost trust in 90% of breakers. Any big card Ive pulled that isnt numbered 90% of them show up with a crazy defect or centering that was total shit. Big breakers are always swapping cards out for their own personal gain when it comes to grading.
To be fair - the same happens to me when I buy sealed wax. Every big pull is off center or damaged to the point i have to send it back to Panini
Along with submission groups.. Im down to the last 20 valuable cards ($5-25)in my collection... sold off all the big ones. Hobby not fun anymore
@Cash Rules - I wish I could too but I get low balled so bad on all my big cards that I don’t want to sell them. My bigger cards are probably worth in the hundreds or even thousands tho
Selling them on Ebay is the only way to get the most money out of them bc if you try to sell to a card shop, they can't pay you the highest comps. They have to have room to make money on it themselves. They assume a bunch of risk buying high end cards of current players bc if that player gets hurt next week, the cards value takes a 30% dive. You've got to remember when selling to a business. They aren't buying for a collection. It's a business to them. Another issue with selling on eBay though is that people don't want to pay big dollars for a card from someone with 0 feedback
This is exactly why most "big name" breakers use at least 2 cameras. Its a simple thing called transparency. I know it wouldn't catch everything, but a "bird's-eye" view would be helpful.
Stuff like this, and all the grading shenanigans are why I sold all my stuff last year and I haven't been happier. I still enjoy watching the vids and living vicariously through you.
this is a space where NFTs actually have a use case. No scams. Transparent supply.
STOP buying into breaks people and this all goes away!!! It amazes me how flustered these guys get and how they don't know what to do with themselves even after ripping thousands of packs of cards when they see a little shine in the pack in hand.
Unfortunately the hobby and secondary market have made if near impossible for the averaged income collector to purchase some of higher tear products. Whether they do it for an investment or grow a collection, for some, the only way they can have a once in forever chance of pulling a top rookie RPA or solething like that would be to buy a spot in a break. So really we should be careful just throwing shade at all breakers and stearing ppl away. Buy instead encourage and even promote breakers like pacman or Layton sports cards or idk any of
The big ones that you’ve watched and feel comfortable with. But if someone consistently gets put on blast for potentially scamming and idiots still buy from them? Yeah they’re dumb. No one deserves to get scammed but for fuck sake of the waiter days careful plates hot andddyaadooittttanyways!!! Then burn bitch. Bye
Once your hands leave the screen your cheating
Soon as cards leave the camera you better believe shady shit is happening no ifs ands or buts
100% facts
I don’t think he went into the break intending to make a swap but had a lapse in judgement, wasn’t ready to pull it off, fumbled a bit, gave up.
You think that because youre not that smart. You're wrong BTW.
@@eatyourmarvel6186 😂Jeff is that you?
Jeff did you dip lol
Oh he swapped it alright !!
Brandon cooks straight dippin!!!
Shocking a guy breaking retail would be a scammer.
........this "hobby" is just chok-full-a blockheads
I don't feel like it was the same card you don't see the background all the way to the edges like that. Definitely not the same card if you ask me. The cards should never leave the screen.
the human psychology here is fascinating. if you read between the lines in the apology note at 4:11, the breaker justifies stealing the card because it was a new client, only “in his second break”. so the customer didn’t deserve the card anyway, because they had not spent enough money breaking with him yet. amazing how the mind of a thief can always justify the theft.
Your right! And to add to that, he also said that new customer in only his 2nd break, AND he already gotten a Downtown refractor “ so that’s him sayin even more a reason lol
It's amazing how far off you are -----> He's not admitting to stealing for 1. #2 - He wasn't saying the "client" was new and undeserving of the card = He was saying he was excited for the purchaser because they were new and had some super good luck so his reaction was due to his excitement for the individual he was ripping for. ..... with that being said - He totally f'd up and even "if" he didn't DIP = he's still hella sus for his unprofessionalism . Big pass from this degen
The Jaylen Waddle Downtown is printed to the edge of the card with the underwater design.
The underwater design is not present on the card in the pack which has the normal optic laser background
Big facts!
Taking the cards off camera for a couple of seconds would be bad enough but for that long is just inviting extremely well deserved criticism. I don't care what reasons are given after the fact from being nervous to I made a horrible yet honest mistake if there was nothing shady happening his own alarm bells in his head would be going off after a second or 2
I just love how he straight up says iv never pulled a waddle downtown over and over..🤔🤔 and he grabs the downtown on purpose! He feels for it and grabs the 2 cards!!!
Yeah - like there’s no way I’m swapping this out bc I’ve never ever pulled a Waddle before wink, wink
We’re gonna get alot of mileage from “you dip?” Hell I use it at random times now, mostly with my wife and she looks at me like I’m stupid
How cool was it they interviewed dippin Daniel himself lol
Crooks. Why would you risk your reputation for a few extra dollars.
Is he sure he never pulled a jalen waddle? It sounds like he has def pulled a jalen wabble before
It does almost seem like he's projecting. it's the first thing he says, and follows that with how it shouldn't be graded due to issues with the bottom edge or whatever. 🤔
You missed the chance to say "or was he doing something "DOWN TOWN" where we couldnt see. Lol
Ya dip bro. Yes it seems way to shady and you definitely can see him switching out a card. He was pressing a little hard so that the other back card wouldn't move.
People stop paying people to steal your money and just open card's for yourself. Everyone has at least 3-5 different store's near them walmart, target, toy's are us, and Myers ect. We also have ebay, internet to access walmart, target and online stores to purchase a box 📦.
you definitely can? where? Its VERY VERY hard to see the reflection. You have some imaging tech that we dont have? lets see it! This is FAR from clear evidence.
@@moby1kanob He took it off camera! That's all the evidence that's needed. Stop defending these clowns.
He fumbled that card worse than Waddle fumbled against the Vikings
As much as that still has sting to it for a guy who had a parlay with all dogs on the $line with the Jets, Falcons, Giants & the lone loser being Miami I'm getting a damn good laugh from that 😆
Rule #1 of groups breaks- NEVER take cards off camera or else all is lost
I personally think their was 2 downtowns and he kept one , I have seen a few times where there has been multiple in a hanger box by accident …I mean he knows good and well he needs to have the cards in the camera and anyone that don’t loses all credibility …hope no one breaks with him again
That's what I thought too. Replacing one DT for another seems silly, although when he kept saying "I hope it's not a Fields," I thought for sure he was going to come on camera & it would be a Fields.
But 2 DTs in the same hanger makes the most sense to me too.
Bro this guy has the exact same setup as I do for breaking on whatnot with the wall case in the background. That was scary. 😂😂
Lol
the reason why it's bad is because, yeah he took it off camera, but he also waited to announce what the card was until he brought it back (or found the replacement for it). If it was Waddle, he could/should have said that from the start. Only reason to stay silent that long is cuz he was searching for the replacement and didn't know what it was gonna be yet, imo.
I was waiting for him to come back on camera with a Baker Mayfield downtown 😬
Regardless it doesn’t take that long to reveal a card that WAS ACTUALLY pack pulled
Yeah, it would've only taken a second to show the card, but he goes on and on about being nervous and he hopes it's not a Fields and it takes him forever. So, yeah, very fishy and I'm inclined to believe he swapped it out.
That breaker is def shady, cause you do NOT take the cards off the screen that long. There is no freaking excuse for that, every break knows this!!!
That card was showing to left of the card but somehow it was stuck very centered afterwards when it came off cam the first time
I don't see any logical reason for that breaker to take the downtown off screen for so long....
I’ve said it many times in my videos. How people continue to send money to these two-bit breakers is beyond me.
Barrier to entry is so small. Half of them have terrible setups. You’re practically begging to be scammed. They ruin it for the breakers that are good people.
PS sports card scammer tracker is a 🐐 page. Shouted that out many times.
I'm a two bit breaker and I don't steal anyone's cards. You can't just lump everyone in to one pile. You know that right?
@@Justintime2grow I think you misunderstood. If you don’t steal peoples cards you’re not a two bit breaker.
@@DanTheCardMan2 No I understand what you said. I don't think you do though. Two bit means insignificant, small time, low volume. It has zero implications to stealing. People that steal are just called thieves.
@@Justintime2grow I know what I said.
@@Justintime2grow cheap or trivial. I.e. horrible camera set ups, lightning, too many questions can be asked.
the fact that people get excited about downtowns is how sad our hobby has gotten too lol Would have been a 50 dollar insert a few years ago
It 100% definitely looks suspicious, BUT if you pause this video at 1:33 and look closely at the border of the Downtown card, you can see that it's upside down, and what is visible matches up pretty well with the coral reef and the sand on the right edge of the card as seen at 3:02 in the video. It's harder to tell with the video quality here, but I'd put some money on it being the Waddle card and the breaker just being wildly careless when recording the break. Honestly, it would probably make a lot more sense to either just set up a camera to record from above looking down at the table to get a much larger viewing area, or record it from top and front angles and keep the top angle recording as a backup for situations like this.
wondering how the card got stuck after it was moving freely ???
This is an example of why everyone should not be in business. It takes more than reselling at more than you paid. Sole proprietor and small LLC needs to know business math and understand that small means you need to build trust, you don't have corporate money to buy it. When your break looks like a rigged carnival game you can't build trust. Breaking is going to change at some point to another corporate run monopoly. The bigger breakers aren't acting legit, more like funneling cards to family and friends on the dime of others. Now is not the time for sloppy presentations. It was strange not seeing or hearing packs opened
shaking my head. I can't even stand when breakers peak what the card is before we see it. Like those that are able to do so that we all see at the same time. I don't mind the slow roll but of course do so with cards on camera.
Soon as that card went off camera , all integrity of that breaker was lost. Don’t care if it was the same card or not as we will never know for certain. You can blame it on emotions or whatever but you can’t take the card off camera. If he was so worried about it being stuck , should of shown the back of the DT first so all there knew who it was beforehand.
Any time a valuable card is pulled out of a pack I think the person who bought into the break or spot should receive full comp value in cash of the best variant of that card in the set. If it gets taken off camera we can only speculate that there was ill intent.
@0:58 lol omg homie swapped the card out hahaha ..
“I’ve never pulled a Jaylen Waddle” x 4
Hahahaha, the guy should definitely practice his heist before going live next time!
Brandin Cooks is now the official Patron Saint of “dippin” breaks.
I don’t know why this was recommended to me.
But I can say it’s super odd he’s super announcing “I’ve never pulled this card! I’ve never pulled a waddle”
All I heard was “this card couldn’t have been pulled from under my desk because I’ve never gotten one before!”
Ugh...I'm a breaker and really want to do well and do right, but situations like this along with other shadiness just make things difficult. Please continue to show these videos and force the standard to be high.
Yes exactly.Anyone that started or wants to start doing breaks these situations make it harder for them because of people will not want to buy with any new breaker.
Get ready to lose your ass in money for about the first 6 months until you develop your reputation and feedback on Ebay. I've been doing breaks for just over a year and things were tough starting out.
Breakers are such losers, on many levels
@@jmc_-im6sd easy
@@slayerde440 why? Because most breakers I've seen are solely in it for the money. They don't even know the names of players, it ANYTHING beyond the value. It drives prices up and will further continue ruining the industry. My dad had a baseball card shop when I was a kid. He feels the same... SMH
Sorry if I'm repeating this but I just saw the video. The card was clearly switched out. Look at time 1:30 then 3:05. The 1/4 inch exposed at 1:30 is clearly different than the edges on the Jaylen Waddle card....
That made me stressed, if a breaker moves cards off camera for 1 sec people flip out, that was super shady
Great video man, first rule of thumb is keep everything on the table. So i think in this scenario, he knows what should have happened
It was %100 swapped. You can tell by zooming in on the border of the card when first revealed. Before for no reason he flips the cards upside down. The waddles has a blue wave and orange color going the full extension to the border. The sliver of the side you see on the reveal doesnt have the blue wave and orange extension to the edge.
I was going to say the same thing.. there is NO WAY that the Waddle was the original card.
Crap like that is mostly why I quit particularly in breaks. I had a questionable incident happen to me with a Mac Jones card before the season started so I messaged the breaker several times with no response then they finally replied and said it wasn’t Mac Jones so I then contacted Whatnot and they supposedly sent the video to the breaker to review (I asked them send me the video or review the video themselves and they did neither) and of course the breaker said he never pulled a Mac Jones and the card they sent to me was the right one. I still think they screwed me over.
He was about to steal what he was hoping would be a big player. It turned out to be Waddle so he didn't pull off the scam but was thinking about it, hence the extreme nervousness.
@Clint Clinty he was definitely about to scam for one reason or another. That's why he took the cards off camera and was extremely nervous.
@Clint Clinty 😂
If you look at his personal collection in the back ground, he has many downtown inserts. My guess, He swapped with an extra one he had.
Bro did u see the marked pack pull !??
Dipped like when I dance to the Tootsie Roll rap song
The border on the first card is complete all the way down. The Waddle art goes all the way to the edge so they can't be the same card.
At most I think people should take that in to consideration. if your going to be in a break with him and he takes cards off camera you should be refunded for that position unless your ok with what you got. This way he's more aware of what he's doing as well as your protecting against what could be a scam
That was painful to watch.
First instinct when Flustered/nervous is I’ll take the cards off camera
Shut up
Sweat, sweat, sweat
That was a Trey Lance Downtown you can see the cloud on the side when compared to others online.
You DIP?! Daniel, You Dip?! hahaha
Seriously any breaker that takes a big card of the camera for that long is only setting themselves up. Huge red flag
Dip sitch for sure. He’s not exactly Robert De Niro when he says the line “I never pulled the Jaylen waddle brother”
Very obvious that he was rambling on "stalling" to buy time. Odd behavior if he wasn't trying to swap a card.. but that is exactly what he was doing!!!
This guy looks like a fellow i went to college with in the midwest. Played some baseball with him also. 25 years ago
Look i do breaks. And the etiquette is simple. All cards, all packs and all boxes. Stay in view of the camera at all times. Period end of story. The second it goes off screen, it leaves the opportunity for dishonesty. Pretty simple even if it seems crowded all that stuff on camera. I never wanna be in a position like this. I understand people arent perfect. But if this were my break, he would be done breaking with me
The only possible reasonable exception is an unopened box. If the wrapping is still on it, that’s the key. The minute the wrapping is off, it definitely can’t be off screen.
I don't think it was the Waddle but I can't quite figure out the player from the limited look I got there* upon closer inspection it appears it could be a Waddle but still pretty shifty behavior
I think breakers are the dumbest freakin thing I've ever seen. I don't understand the craze at all.
I think the part where he repeatedly says “I’ve never pulled a Jaylen waddle” makes me believe he has, in fact, pulled a Jaylen waddle.
Thief, you should never take the cards off camera, then for that long.
keep calling out these breakers. Good work
He says I never pulled a jaylen waddle first.. doesn't even make sense.. then he says haven't pulled one before
That was the longest sweat I've ever seen. 😂
What the hell is wrong with these people? The greed....
Yeah....love scammers, I mean..."breakers"...they'll take YOUR money ALL DAY but when they DO finally find a decent card, they won't share it. I wouldn't participate in a break if my SOUL depended on it.
The way he talked made him sound super guilty
anytime a huge hit is noticed and a breaker takes it off of camera for whatever reason, its gives the buyers and whoever is watching it very good reasoning to suspect foul play. Why do they always have to back away to figure out whatever they are claiming is going on. They could easily keep it in frame during figuring out the issue. But this is how it goes, notice a huge hit, they all of a sudden they say something strange is going on like a card is stuck together ect. and then they instantly take it off camera to fix the problem. The biggest irony of it all is every clip ive seen of a breaker scamming always has cards in cases as backround and they mine as well have a mirror showing them switching it out. And the microphone always catches them opening the new blaster while getting the door.
And somehow, people still buy into their breaks
You can see it’s a different card because if you look at the original, you can see a part of a football on the left side, and the waddle doesn’t have that.
I don’t believe he swapped it. Look at the card closely when he first reveals the side. It’s upside down and the right side of the card imaging matches what we see on the Waddle card.
Ya I know. Keep defending these clowns.
There are multiple reasons to stop buying into breaks. This is a good reason as well as the price of product. These breakers are the main reason product prices are through the roof. Stop buying into breaks and the prices will drop and you can eventually buy your own boxes and not have to worry about getting screwed out of a card
The card was definitely not stuck as you can see in the video the card was like 1/4 inch away from the top card then he slides it back to flush with card agin he def tried to switch or did switch took to long and made to many movements before sliding the card on table
It wasn't stuck to the previous card, takes it off camera for no reason, then keeps it off for a minute. Even bumped the camera reaching under the table. Thief. What does it matter. Every proven thief still gets people to buy into breaks. People are idiots and get what they deserve.
Not sure anyone else is paying attention to this but dude used his index finger to bring it around to front card right before he went off camara. He did the sleight of finger maneuver.
I only have ever used Iron Lion Breaks. No problems, or complaints from a single customer and they are honest to the core. They go above and beyond what most breakers do by giving skunk prizes if your team doesn't hit and monthly prizes. I
d recommend them to anyone.
Keep exposing them!!!!... Love this channel scr
For real
Comparing the side of the dipped card to the waddle it’s not the same card. 100% swapped it.
maybe tried to find one to replace but didnt
Pulling a downtown would be awesome but I can’t even find optic packs bro