The Art of Paper Patching, 30-06 series introduction
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- Опубліковано 24 лис 2024
- Paper patch boolits offer great advantages for us casters. This series will dive into some keep facts in getting a paper patch boolit to shoot accurate. Join me in this series and lets find out if this old art is worth rejuvenating with today's smokeless powders.
I just watched "Shooter" for the umteenth time... So of course watching that one scene where they talk about paper patch bullets, i wanted to see if it was true or not.. Thanks for confirming that its real.
Good Tutorial
Same here lol I was curious on what it was
same here , Nick Memphis 😁😁
Definitely excited to learn more, I think this is what will finally get me into casting! Long range accuracy and casting affordability yeah I’m in!
Can't wait for ya to join the lead party brother lol. 👍😁
I would love to see a deep dive on this topic.. very unique! thanks so much!
So, this is the most interesting video of the day for me. Won't be missing any of the vid's in this series. Thanks, Eagle Eye shooting!
NP and Thanks JCM45. Maybe this art will give ideas in getting better cast rifle loads. Sometimes old ideas just work lol
I’m late coming to watch your video but not new to paper patching, I use PP bullets of 410gr in my .45/70 Ruger No1 and 370gr in .416Rem Mag Ruger No1. Used for informational target shooting and deer. My loads are fairly accurate at velocities of 1650 and 1900 feet per second respectively. I cast using 1:16 tin to lead alloy. I’m intending to push the velocity of the .416 closer to 2000fps which will still be below the regular jacketed bullet velocities but a great round for anything but perhaps big African game. Subscribed.
Way to go Kenny. Everybody is interested
Ha hopefully those interested will still be. How I make it video will be up soon. These things are tedious to make but the hard work does pay off
im curious how this turned out did you do more vids on this?!
Fascinating stuff... I wonder if I can use this with a 40-65 Sharps I'm thinking of buying but hesitating because there are very few bullets available here in UK. Cast bullets I find here are slightly under bore size..
Man I'd love to see a long term update to this!
back in the late 80's early 90's russ stayfeild [spelled wrong lol ] did a right up on paper patching jacketed bullets . like 7mm bullets in a 30 cal case . he was very in depth on it . i had kept the magazine for yrs . but sadly it got lost in a move . i do remember he said to lightly roll the bullet with a fine file first . to get the paper to stick to the copper . he ended it buy saying ' and also the barrel will get cleaner with each shot . and the bullets were very accurate . but you could only patch bullets with a diameter one caliber down . it was very interesting .
I'll have to look him up that sounds very interesting! Makes sense though I'm going to be getting back to doing this very soon. I had luck with a 150gr FP Lee mold that pushed these bad boys to 3k fps with about a 1.5" group at 100. Not bad for a cast lead bullet
i have tried to find it online . but no luck . he even told what copy paper to use , buy thickness and wraps . if you find it let me know .
Another thing about paper patching is there is no deformity of the bullet. It is pristine when it exits the barrel.
Keep it up very interested
You completely forgot the aspect of over-standard rifle barrels; the paper can compensate for an oversized bore. For example, SMLEs often have bores as big as 0.316" (which is still within original specification), and very often the standard 0.311" (jacketed) or 0.312" (as cast) bullets sort of wander in a bore that big without paper patching.
Hell yes I'd be interested
I would like to learn about paper patch. Just got into casting, and trying to learn all I can. If I try to do this with only part of the information is like a mechanic going to work with half his tools. thank you.
i am interested in this and would like to see more how to do this and your results of long range confirmation. Thank you so much!
If you want to learn how to do it properly dont watch this guys video
Just stumbled on the concept. Now I know WHY. I guess the only thing left is brewing my own gun powder, lol.
Yea, Man I would watch!
What mold are you using? Those bullets look amazing!
After making a batch of ultra-hard .45 acp bullets, with plenty antimony & quenching, started thinking of paper-patching to save the bore rifling.
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Thanks for being awesome!
is it possible to paper patch a cup and core or mono metal 284 bullet to be used in 3006?
Hi..how are you sizing the Lee down to .301" ?
Did you say you have your length set to 2thou into the lane or are you 2thou away from the lans?
So I am assuming the paper stays on till the bullet leaves the barrel. It would be interesting to see some high speed video of the bullet leaving the barrel. If any of my guns even smelled lead it would lead up the barrel. Ran factory lubed wad cutters at low velocities and always got leading. So is the bullet a smaller diameter than a jacketed bullet would be to make up for the difference in the thickness of the paper? It would be good to know how to do this if you were in a dooms day scenario where factory jacketed bullets went away.
Interesting , I didn't know paper patch bullets could be run at jacketed velocities . Do the bullets need to be sized down to make up for paper thickness ?
Ahh yes! A crucial step in making these work. 1 though over grove diameter seems to be rule of thumb. I size the air cooled boolits before rolling on the paper then size again. And yes velocities and accuracy are in par with jacketed bullets. As long as the paper is rolled properly. Lots of info, ill cover what I can and simply some majors which will get anyone willing to try groups off the bat
Is it possible to paper patch .45 acp to shoot out of 45-70?
Absolutely, a good option to use (cast) .453 projectiles for larger bore calibers
Eagle Eye Shooting where do I get started? Is there some kit I can buy from somewhere?
I cant wait to see the rest brother! I have an Enfield No.1 MK5 jungle carbine that I'm getting ready to try some cast loads in and from what I've read I may need to try paper patching to get any kind of accuracy out of it so I'm definitely interested in this concept.
Great! Ive read PPing is a great way to get these old service rifles to shoot accurate. Also polishes the bore if shot as a dry pp boolit. I'll be uploading the second part tonight
Ok, I am, more interested in, seeing how you determine where it, said bullet, makes a mark on your bullet, how you would measure, this effect as your loading you cartridge in your chamber, to have it engage rifling
Cool video my Freind I am very interested you young whippersnapper who is old around here you young whippersnapper haha keep these great videos coming see I told you people would be interested in this
Great series, very interesting
Thanks for watching and for the sub!
Show us how to roll the bullet in the paper
intersting
Quigley Down Under, he states 110 grain metal cartridge, with a 540 grain paper patch bullet. So is he saying he using a total load of 650 grain of black powder? This doesn't make sense as the paper patch holds more grain the metal cartridge itself. Also, the metal used is silver color. I know it's Hollywood, but what could the composition of the metal cartridge be? I can't image steel, at least not at this time period.
110gr. Is referring to the amount of black power needed to fill the metallic case. In the old days, the first number represented the caliber of the cartridge. The second number represents the amount of black powder needed to completely fill the case. Tom Selleck says that he uses a 540gr paper patch bullet..., hence he is shooting a 45-110/540. Hope this clears it up a little bit? Also..., he is using brass cases in the movie. They just happen to look like polished steel, because they are so shiny. Brass is all they had in those days, because it was so readily available and cheap to manufacture.
No rifling marking in the bullet..
Interesting very interesting one thing i would lile to know though is it a mith that it leaves no trace of the rifling on the bullet
1870
That was a waste of time