IT BEGINS... 𝗦𝗧𝗔𝗚𝗙𝗟𝗔𝗧𝗜𝗢𝗡 SLAMS the GUITAR MARKET! | How to Negotiate Prices
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- I took a trip to what is effectively the largest pop-up vintage guitar shop in the country - the Dallas International Guitar Festival - again this year. This time I took along my 1976 Fender Stratocaster to see if I can sell or trade it. In the process of doing this, we'll see whether or not stagflation - something economists fear might be hitting the overall economy - has made its way into the guitar market. We will also give a master class on how to negotiate a guitar sale! So stick around for DAY ONE of the Dallas International Guitar Festival.
#guitar #market #economy
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0:00 Intro to Guitar Festival
1:16 LINT.org + Hollister + Puerto Rican Cuatro
6:16 Alamo Amps and More AMPS!
10:55 RARE 1930s Gibson EH185
16:22 Old's Cool Amps (Ron Jinks)
24:44 "53 Precision '59 Super Amp (Scruff's)
26:20 Unusual Stuff (Totem Paul Guitars)
31:00 Bluesman Vintage
33:33 Killer Vintage (Tunerette)
36:08 National Val-Trem
38:42 Rare Marshall Sign + First Dealer Looks at My Strat
42:26 Martin HEAVEN! (Strings West, Larry Briggs)
49:53 First Negotiation on my '76 Strat, Ibanez Vai Collection (Diablo Guitars)
56:50 Brother to My '76 Strat
1:00:13 Ovation Breadwinner, Fender 'The Strat", Gibson Headless Bass, BC Rich
1:03:45 Pedals, Ludwig Phase II, Mu-Tron Biphase
1:07:20 Brinson Guitars
1:10:27 Hardtail means "hardsell"
1:11:15 Fellows Guitars
1:13:28 Rivington Guitars, Paul's Vintage
1:23:46 Jaded Dealer
1:25:59 PROOF of Buyer's Market
1:29:55 THE FINAL BOSS NEGOTIATION!
1:39:29 Back to the Hotel - Розваги
Thanks for watching! Did I make the right deal???
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Hard to say what the right deal would be, but you def made a good deal. Nice Les Paul.
Went into guitar center last month for the first time in a couple years.
I was clueless about current market prices for new models from the big names.
$1400+ for the bottom of the barrel bog standard models from Gibson and Fender and decent quality strat customs starting around 2.5-4k!?! Gibson's definitely demanding higher prices. The high wall really nice stuff covered in $6-8k guitars?!?
Like whut???
In this economy?
They're smokin crack!!! 😆
If I hadn't seen that with my own eyes I would've thought the deals and prices for your swap was crazy.
I'd say you did good.
You threw in all those extras and it was a real great condition 70's strat. He got a good quality strat he can make a good sale on in his store to the right person.
That Les Paul looks to be an easy $3.5-4k turn around in todays model prices.
I don't know what you were into the Strat for plus you got 350 back. I think you did fine
I'm a Strat lover. I'd of just kept it and played it till it needed another fret job!
Great deal. I may be biased as I am not a huge Strat fan (I hate bolt-on necks, it’s like reaching under a girl’s skirt and finding a coq! They also sound very banjo like to me).
On the other hand Gibson have significantly raised their prices… that Les Paul would have cost $2200 new a few years ago, I don’t think you will get $2500 for it, probably $2000 to $2200. You got what $350 in cash? So that puts you at $2350 to $2550 and frankly your Strat was worth more than that given the asking price for the 2 same year and model at the other booths.
I also think, at guitar shows, everyone is looking for “a deal”.
Personally I would put it for sale on Reverb for $2800, taking home $2625 or more after fees and shipping costs (provided you offered free shipping, I tend to personally).
Could you have made out better financially? Yes but it would have 1.) taken longer and 2.) more hassle.
By the way, one thing you didn’t say that I think is worth mentioning is dealers with booths will usually act like something is not special or act like it is near worthless WHEN something is nice, it’s a tactic to wear down the seller. They do this when they want it, but they want it super cheap and you’re expected to sell for less because “hey buddy I gotta make profit” that’s not our problem so feck that noise LOL
Economics 101 - when supply exceeds demand prices must drop.
economics dont apply when you dont need to sell. ie not an actual business. duh
Soon they will have to liquidate and maybe we will get some good deals!
I pray to God thing correct-Some of the prices are sick. This event looks great. I would love to attend one. There is nothing like it where I live. These people are genuine.
@@godsinboxyou are a bright one . I can tell 🥴
Brad...I love these videos where you scope out gear at shows and pawn shops...thanks for doing the leg work.
My first amp was an Alamo. No reverb but it broke up really early and sounded good.
Never went to the Dallas show but had friends that had booths every year. Did the Nashville show a couple of times and had some decent sales on parts and pick guards, pick ups and bodies at my booth.
Met Vince Gill and man what a nice guy.
I have reverb in the amps I own. I never use the feature. I like a nice analog delay pedal.
I agree with you 100% in regards to the guy that ASKED YOU if you were selling the strat, you wished him well at the end and he almost gave you a cold shoulder. People suck! I thought the same thing as you did before you started talking about it. I like the way that you carry yourself and subscribed to your channel 20 minutes before I got to this point in the video! Cheers 🍻
Thanks for the sub!
Brad you always carry yourself well and respect ppl, it’s nice to see…I think you did well on your deal..
@@TheGuitologist that dude was a douche-canoe haha
There's always a guy that thinks he's all that , but you were a pro , you showed him how it's done , and like he said "you didn't have to" Alfred NYC / PR
Yup, Brads Cool,..and LEGIT 👍🍻
Thanks for taping and posting Brad.
Diablo Guitars is owned by Parker Lundgren, former guitarist for Queensryche and former son in law of Geoff Tate. He was standing next to the guy looking at your strat, the Zach guy.
Who da funk is Zach?
@@GrimKardashianIt's the young guy who offered Brad $1,800 with a smirk.
How do you get to be the former son in law? Man this world be movin.
@@1683cliftonit's called divorce
Parker couldn't be bothered to even look up from his phone to check out Brad's guitar .
the cowhide esquire with the plain looking headstock is modeled after leo fender's early prototypes that were made between 1945 and 1949, they had that 3 on each side headstock and the volume/tone knobs with no selector and were called 'snakeheads' since the headstock looked sort-of like the head of a snake.
If you ask me I always thought those looked cooler then the regular Esquires
That's just me though
swamp ash, of the very same tree, the wood harvested that is underwater is half the weight of the wood above water, the light stuff come from under water & the heavy stuff is above water level. fun fact!!
I’ll take your word on that one. There’s definitely a difference in this ash from all the other ash I’ve tried.
@@TheGuitologist What exactly is the weight of your strat?
Seems like it would be other way around? Interesting stuff
@@juanvaldez5422 look it up
Hey Brad, thanks for taking us along, looking forward to the continuation. Great negotiation on that trade. You’re right, you will offload that LP much quicker. If I was there with you, the drinks would be on me brother! Cheers 🍻
"Never take the first offer". When dealing with an unknown person. True words.
Hey man, thanks for taking the time to post this video. It is definitely appreciated.
Thanks for the ride on the negotiation of the trade. Should continue this for the rest of the trip.
So nice to meet you at the show! Great video work
I'm all about the used market shitting the bed for a few years. I held off from buying anything during the the guitarmageddon that was going on as a result of the Covid lockdowns beyond necessities: like strings, cables, etc.
There were a couple guitars, an amp and several preamps and pedals. I have one of the guitars. It's 3 years old, and i got it for 60% of the price new. I was seeing them selling for like $50 off the retail and i just refused to do it, in spite of being able to buy it. The other guitar's price has dropped dramatically too, but I'm putting that off for a couple years. I wanted to pick up an Egnater Rebel 20. I had one years ago and i remember it was awesome for slaving preamps and modelers. You can run it from 20W down to 1W, or switch between 6V6's to EL84s. It wasn't even that bad of a price, considering the absurd prices of everything else, but i held off and ended ponying up $60 more 10 months ago, for the Rebel and a 15W Tweaker 12" combo.
I sold cars for several years before i started working on guitars and amps. It doesn't matter if it's guitars and amps, pedals, or a mid-sized crossover SUV; i don't mind paying what something is worth. Sometimes, for various reasons, the price of something will spike. Maybe a component is suddenly unavailable and they no longer build them in that form, or maybe someone sees it on John Mayer's pedalboard and the price goes up. Covid created a widespread, but predictably temporary large increase in demand. People were locked in their homes for a year with nothing but time and enhanced unemployment benefits on their hands. Eventually that would end, followed shortly by a lot of gear suddenly starting to they the used market.
-Sunrise, sunset.-7
I do feel for the independent shops getting squeezed.
Thanks for sharing this with us! Lots of fun!
the guy on the right from the fool that offered 1800 for your strat was a big guitar player. He played in Queensriche. It's Parker Lundgren.
Their shop collection is INSANE!!!
I would think a Guitologist Reverb store would do really well... I know packing and shipping aren't fun, but I would think your audience would pay a premium for your gear where as the average reseller buyer at a swap meet would want to offer bottom dollar. Just a thought. Great video none the less. A super fun watch!
Love these videos, thanks Brad. Flxth!
Thanks for the journey brad
42:25 Y’all, that is the great Larry Briggs (Amigo Guitar Shows) that Brad is talking to. That’s the mist I’ve ever heard him talk. That a great moment. The stories he could tell about the famous guitars he’s sold. Wow. Without saying too much, Mr. Briggs and The Guitologist have a fair amount in common relative to their feelings on stagflation. 😉 Larry Briggs is one of the good ones.
By the way . . . I absolutely LOVE these Dallas International Guitar Festival videos that you're doing. I watch last year's video from start to finish and I did the same with this one. Thanks again for a great video! Rock on, brother man!
Great video. Looking forward to the next video!
Another marvellous video! Thanks for that! Keep on the good job! Cheers from Brazil!
I think the demand for used instruments has been high since regular prices on new gear seems to be inflated over the past few years.
Cool. Like that Kendrick amp. And being a Carvin guy the X60 is a rare one.Also when I was a kid my best friends gramps had a 20’s arch top with that small 5watt Gibson tweed amp. That he bought in 1927. He used bring it out every time I came over. Because he wanted me to play it. I was always so amazed at just how good it sounded. This was in the early 80’s.
I am a Carvin fan myself, but that is not a rare amp. Google and they are for sale at a reasonable price.
Those Brinson guitars are killer
The guitar market is over saturated
Nice show update. Great commentary on free market economics! And kudos for respecting a dealer throwing out a lowball offer. You never know if someone is desperate so might as well test the waters, so to speak!
I was at the show on Saturday!! So fantastic!! Had a great time!!
Thanks for this shooting from the hip walk and talk document Brad. Really cool. for those of us stuck on the far ends of the globe, this is a valuable insight.. Particularly liked your old school interactions with most stall holders, something truly rare in this day. Love the focus on old amps and unusual guitars too, especially the guy with the customised Marshall style amps. Alex ( South Africa ).
Good lands! Those Martin's at 45 thru 48 minutes. I could NOT believe that the guy had those on a stand along the edge of that table. That was scary!
Those men from Hollister make beautiful instruments. I’ve seen them on videos from past shows.
Indeed!
Indeed!
Thanks for another great video. 👍🏻👍🏻
I feel like I spent the afternoon checking out gear with my buddy Brad. - Cheers from northern BC! 🇨🇦
Love this channel, mad respect to the Guitologist. I don't know about these prices though, maybe they are worth it for some of the hand made guitars and Martins, but I'd rather hook up a kit guitar than pay some of these prices. Musical instruments are just not geared to the working folks anymore. Keep on guitoligyn and such Brad!
I think you did good on the trade so far. I have a 1974 Deluxe Reverb with new original spec caps that' has been completely gone through by a Tech. Its in almost new condition. I think I got a deal at $1850.00 + $90.00 shipping from Reverb 3 years ago. I love this amp, Its no doubt my favorite except maybe the 50 watt Fender Bassman head I have. Thanks Brad for filming this, cant hardly wait for part 2
I'm an uninformed buyer , but so many of these shows seem to be full of inventory but the demand side looks thiner , and the demographics always look similar, if the totality of Gen z/x is starring at a phone , where does all of this inventory end up , and add to that the new instrument pipeline is running at 100% , just a bit perplexing , interesting landscape
The one after Gen Z is Gen Alpha apparently (I just learned this). Then again, I'm 50 and staring at my phone so maybe you did mean Gen X. Cheers
Hey, I’m a Gen Xer. I don’t stare at my phone.
@@buckodonnghaile4309
I’m a Gen-Xer staring at my phone right now. Staring at the phone makes it easier for me to spends hundreds(if not thousands) of dollars a year on Reverb. Plus, the wonderful app we are on right now called UA-cam shows me all the cool new stuff as soon as it comes out.
Awesome video, Brad. I watched the video that you put out last year several times. You should open your own shop. I would definitely make the drive.
Great video Brad, enjoyed you taking the time to stop the scene and give your explanations. Good job brother man and you did good on the LP trade.
This is the land of …I don’t get out of my swivel chair for anything, not even to shake your hand ✋
Get older and you will see why. For some it is very painful to stand. Its not meant as disrespect.
@@crosswalklarry That’s an excuse for a world that has no respect anymore. I’m older that 90 % of the dealers in the video. I agree there is the odd one, but morality and respect 🫡 has left this place sadly, as well as a simple thank you as he stated. I wish it wasn’t so.
The ones who vocally demand respect are always the ones who least deserve it. The one who takes offense when old people remain seated, when in his glorious presence, has led a very lucky life, to have reached old age with sych a kid's attitude. Maybe those disrespectful old people didn't know who you are? You should've insisted: "Do you people know who I am?! Stand for me, now!"
Man the world has changed….the first dealer…..well not sure if it’s been gone over…no idea of price…and them maybe I’ll look into it for you….what the ?
Hey Brad, Wow a lot of great stuff at the show on day one. Most way out of my price range though. I look forward to seeing what's up on day two. I also wanted to say thanks for the video on the Enya Nova go Sonic. When I saw it, I had to have one and I love it. Thanks again!
Looking forward to part 2!
That's how I've done business for over 45 years. Being self employed for over 32 years, I had 1 check/payment bounce, and that was rectified about a week later. Treat people how you want to be treated, do any work on your clients home as you would do in your own home, and do what you said you were going to do. No shortcuts, bait and switch, or white lies. Do your job, and you will be rewarded in life.
Overpriced stuff has never turned me on ,,,
Ken Fischer worked at Ampeg in the 70's... he could have went on for hours about every detail on that Reverb - O- Rocket 😅
Great video Brad🤙🏼
A Big Hi and Thankyou from the UK
Great Video Brad!
I for one love the Paul you got, I think you did good. For the record it was made on the 89th day of 2022. 323rd of the first batch that day. Great looking top on that thing also.
The paul you got by trade is awsome, l'm a Gibson guy at heart and have a custom shop 60's that looks exactly the same!🤩
Brad , I traded my white SG that I paid 1900 dollars for to a dude who wanted to trade me a 2500 dollar Gibson SG modern in blueberry fade and I didn't like how neck heavy it was so I traded it for a fender American ultra stratocaster in cobra blue and I love the fender , it's a keeper
Wait you traded your $1,900 white SG to a dude for a $2,500 Gibson GS modern in blueberry which turned out to be weight balanced as neck heavy so then you turned around and traded the neck heavy Gibson for a Fender Ultra Stratocaster in cobra blue and you love it?
Hello from Canada! Great video! Thanks brother!!
That makes 2 of us, cheers from Bobcaygeon.
@@buckodonnghaile4309 “Where I saw the constellations reveal themselves
One star at a time”
That makes 3 of us! Montreal @@buckodonnghaile4309
Cool video man!
That was a great deal!
I would take that 1981 Custom Les Paul over a new one even if they were the same price. Also that guy at the previous booth was rude in my opinion.
Agreed on the 1981 LPC too , all day , Alfred NYC /PR
To play I’d prefer the Strat but I think you’re right, you’ll move the LP a lot easier.
How much was that Marshall sign? Damn that thing looked sweet! great video cheers
That sign guy was also kind of stuckup too.
I totally love these videos of yours! I wish there was a big guitar community here in Norway. There's only one big event every year, that's it. Anyway, thanks for sharing this cool journey with us! :)
Nice! The Guitologist playing a Puertorrican Cuatro. My island main stringed instrument. Cool!
That was the best part of the video , yes . Alfred / PR
I enjoyed that very much, Bradford. THANKS, and you can't go wrong with a good Les Paul.
Great video. That 76 strst was a tremolo model. I like the ash body hardtails too.
Really enjoyed watching.
Peace.
thanks for getting me out the house. i can shop for used gear or used books all day long.
Really enjoying watching this back!!! Great video!! I watched a guy buy that floral gem from that booth!
Did he negotiate?
@@TheGuitologist HELL NO he didn’t!! I was looking. At it -- Like a complete boss, I watched the guy glance at it - not even pick it up or anything and then go talk to the owner of the booth (not sure what he offered)…. But immediately pulled out a Huge wad of cash from his Louis Vuitton bag and walked off with it…. It was amazing. The dude was about 6”7 with gigantic muscles. I talked to him after, super nice guy. . It was epic.
I have that same exact LP standard 60s behind me right now from '20. It's a great guitar.
Whats up Brad? Hope you’re doing well man! Sadly, most of our country doesn’t know what stagflation is.
When I was a kid, just 30 years ago, i say 30 cause it feels like yesterday half the time, I would find old Valco style amps ALL the time for DIRT cheap.
I would fimnd them at yard sales for like 10-20 bucks and toss em on ebay when ebay was farely fresh for l,.ike 350, this was back then
Nice vid. I used to own that Cardinal Red 1966 Firebird at the 32:34 mark. It rocked bawlz, but had to move it on.
Me and my grandpa recently modified my tube amplifiers we put silvertone 6V6 tubes in it for the preamp
We also added a noise gate circuit and a Danelectro fab echo circuit I play country rockabilly and bluegrass and the strings I use are Thomastik flatwound strings 11sb
We also want the speakers for Jensen P8R speakers
Love your guitar exhibition/sale episodes.
On a slightly different note, can you an episode (or two) on neck throughs? Just wanna hear your perspective. Thanks
Sweet Trade !! You did good will hold it's value at 2 k ..I got the same guitar in Unburst ..
I have a 1975 hardtail strat in natural ash and it’s a really light one.
Eager to see what you take home!
What a fantastic video have a wonderful weekend ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
I had a great time . I went Sat. and Sun. found a great deal on a vintage Strat on Sunday! Sunday is the day for deals. That is of course if theres anything left. Dealers scoop up most of the best guitar deals on Thursday.
Great video. I think you got a fair trade at the end. I'm not sure what I would have done in your position. Value wise is good, but there is something intangible about having a vintage guitar that I might not be able to get over for trading it for a modern production guitar.
The power scaling thing sounds pretty cool.. I have a tube amp with a similar thing called a veri-watt they were made in England
Great video ..i like those Brinson guitars .
Wow i love that teardrop Vox!!!
Sweet right!
I have a vox teardrop bass and it's one of my absolute favorites, the neck is so skinny it's unreal
You came out pretty good, Brad! I'm going to have to check out Old's Cool amps! I have a hankering for a Bandmaster, and he is not too far from me! Thank you for all the content you provide! You're as REAL as it gets!!!
Ron's amp look great.
Hey Guitologist, I made it into your video...lol...very cool. I was selling my old Washburn Stephen Davies. Wish I had been aware enough to recognize you! Good juju
Next time!
Yes....... you are a fantastic person.....honest....real.....human.....more than just about guitars..... lessons for life....
......thank you...
......rock on ...
......yes.
-Corky
Oakland, CA.
Ron Jinks gets my vote for best branding ever. He may not play much anymore but his amps sound pretty damn good.
I use to go to two or three vintage guitar shows a year and always had a great time searching for a guitar or two to bring home. Thanks for doing these videos Brad, I still enjoy looking at vintage guitars and amps, but can no longer get to the shows, or need to be bringing more guitars home.
What a spree,i think you done good man.
Great video.
Those Spectra 225 amps were good sounding amps. My friend had a music store in the 80s and was a dealer for them. They were sold through Dean Markley. I wish I bought one of them. They also made tube amps.
wow that Brinson Tele was beautiful... !!
Its called the (Cuatro) (4) Its a very nice sounding instrument when played the right way , so happy to see you playing one Brad , hats off , Alfred NYC /PR
Love that intro.
Up in my area that strat would be worth a little under 4 grand (to someone looking for a hardtail) because of the weight and condition and new fret job.
49:58 Diablo Guitars. I bought a used Jackson Custom Shop Pablo Santana Extreme Warrior from them just a few weeks ago via Reverb. Made an offer on what they were asking and got it for a good price. Good sellers.
That one guy passing on the deal was jaded and rude. I've dealt with guitar stores like this that didn't even know what I was bringing them. I would rather sell cheap to a friend than a jerk like that. Don't treat customers like trash. They may want to spend their money with you! I stopped going to the particular store In referring to and they are out of business years later while others thrive. I've had good trade deals from other stores, even Guitar Center no less.
Thanks For Sharing 🎸🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
That LP you acquired was about as good a deal you'd get anywhere, with it being in Brand New Mint condition. It's a guitar I would love to own for sure! Good video🍻
The mustangs are cool but a ton of bread. Damn those Martins were nice. Every 70s guitar I ever sold was a huge mistake. Early on, the Vibroverb was steal
Thanks!
You bet!
There's my old tweed Supro. Above that Dobro.