power divider / inter-axle locking differential DIY repair
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- I need subscribers guys! Help me out. This video is a step by step video detailing how to repair the most common power divider / inter-axle locking differential failure. It does not require removing the entire rear end from the axle housing you don’t have to drain the fluid or remove axle shafts. I save on average $3500 when comparing to bringing your semi truck to a shop
This video has given me the know how to repair the diff on an '81 model Peterbilt that has been sitting for 10 years.
The idea is to give folks the courage to do it there self and a straw color with a torch it what u want folks I’ve done a bunch
You've done a great service for us novises that have never had the experience of doing this kind of job.
Never could figure out how that whole system works. Thanks
Thanks
Great video! Your a natural.
My preferred method in the shop to heat bearings and gears is an old fish fryer filled with some oil and temp is easy to control. Have also use a piece of plate steel set the bearing on top and heat from underneath with torch. Infrared temp gun comes in very handy try not to get over 300 deg F. Keep up the good work and God bless you for passing on your knowledge.
This worked. It was accurate. I watched this video and did it when I realized that the diff lock did not engage and the drive shaft kept spinning. Thanks for great help.
Best video I've seen👍
I was just about to buy the whole diff $4350 now by watching this video I got away with replacing the spider only, at $268
Thank you very much, the Lord bless you 🙏
Awesome
Great Video bud! This is perfect for DIYers… my power devider is stuck on I can drive the truck but I want it to work like it’s supposed to you know. The air switch works so I know it’s something in there…. Definitely not paying 4500 after this video thank you!
This is going to save me a bunch. We usually pull them out and they rehearing the whole thing. Always been gun shy. Not sure why it’s broke how much worse can it get. Got one now that runs fine but power divider lock doesn’t work. U can hear the fork move and axle lock works. Once you see it and watch. Easy as pie. Can’t thank you enough.
Awesome video, I just tore my front differential apart yesterday. I had a pooping upon takeoff and vibration. My truck is a 2016 Peterbilt 579. They confess apart a little different but pretty much the same inside. The yoke has to be removed first and the shift fork is up front and has to shifted around to get the shaft out. Luckily your video helped me realize this was my issue. Parts are ordered and on there way. Spent $1500 to rebuild the whole thing on a D40-155 Spicer. Thanks for the help and making the video.
That’s what this video is for. I did mention some u need to remove the yoke before u can take it apart. Please consider subscribing. I plan do try and find more subjects for videos if I ever make it to a thousand subscribers
I put that gear in the freezer part of my beere fridge. Then the bearing on my wood stove . Works great.
Good video my guy
This is a great method if you're not dealing with broken gear teeth or other metalic debris in the Differential lube oil. Otherwise you'll need to pull the cover and clean the housing thoroughly. You'll probably want to do a quick oil change after reassembly to catch any missed particles.
Man I sure do appreciate that you made this video you saved me a time and troubel and you done a great job explaining the processes envoled with this power divider problem
Heck yeah that’s what it’s all about
A kitchen hot plate will also work to heat and expand the cone . Camshaft gear on Caterpillar engines will heat up the same way . 120/23
Wish I would have found this a couple hrs ago just removed the diff thank you so much for your time you just saved me $$$
aaaaand this is why all of our rear ends became truckers lol..... great detailed video man, thanks!
perfect torque on that pinion nut you need to yell click click, great video thnx again
Lol thanks for watching
I just had a guy come into my shop with a truck he blew the yoke off of it and fix that himself and then said the rear end was screwed up, I haven’t tied into it yet but I am guessing it’s the spider gears. Thanks for the info very helpful.👍🏼
Thanks for watching and let me know if that’s the problem
Circle B Ranch Just giving you an update on what happened, the owner fixed the front yoke when he broke it. When he brought it to me and I started to tear it apart I found that the rear yoke on the input shaft was broke on an angle (he could drive forward but not reverse) and said it was making all kinds of noise. When I got into it I did a full inspection and found no broken parts it was just the yoke.But this is a case where you have to pull it apart because of the owner said it was making all kinds of noise.
Great mine just went today. Thanks for the great video. Update. I wasn't so lucky. Mine spun the driven gear on the pinion. So I opted for a good used front rear.
Keep continue post videos we are watching and learning
Can't really agree with the torch thing (hot gear oil would be better in my opinion) but it's been done without incident many a time, at least you're smart to have Rockwell rear ends !!!
I hate Spicer and Eaton and meritor axles myself
I like Mack and Rockwell personally !!! Both as a former mechanic and Driver, a couple of long dowel pins to help get that front assembly to slide in helps alot, be careful about silicone blocking the oil holes and passages, to,
All the best to you and yours Sir.
Great DIY video. Saved me from replacing the whole chunk
We do need more videos of the semis. Very good and helpful video just wise it was complete from taken out parts also
Great video I usually put the gear in the freezer instead of using torch on bearing
Thank you!
Wana heat bearings to 100°c or 212°f ? Easy, wrap in wet towel place in microwave do not let towel dry out. Perfect bearings every time. Can't get hotter.
Dang I glad I read the comments I'd never thought of the ole freeze trick
Great video, very helpful seeing it done. There are some tools , long puller that is needed though. Thank you
Awesome video you are better than most mechanics 👍👍👍👍😊
Awesome 😎 amigo u sure as hell save $$$$ this is better than any class I have ever attend!! Thank you 🙏🏻!!
I’m working on building a torque splitting 1 ton diff this was a verry good video on how to put it together looking inside the housing was great
Thank you for this video I’m getting ready to do my power divider aswell and was planning to remove the entire third member but not anymore
Great video for sure. But am now seeing this video from my motel 😂😂😂. My truck is in the shop at this moment because the power divider, output shaft seal jump out.
I can relate to this O/O......Thank you for posting this video. Nice job.
Awesome help thanks
Great Video. And thank-you for the instructions. I think I'm having the same problem, and will do the work myself.
Very helpful video
My guy 🤝 you done good you done good. Keep making vids and sooner than later this will only be more of a hobby than a job. Great Vid
Thanks
A lot of bad information here. As someone that rebuilds these every day for 28 years and counting, doing these power dividers in the truck isn't advised because the big input thrust washer is known to fall down between the input shaft flange and the input helical when trying to install the power divider which is why we build them straight up and down in a diff stand. Failure to catch that is going to be an improper shimming of the power divider and you can ruin it. Next is the input yoke, do yourself a favor and take the nut off before removing the power divider from the front differential and save your wrist, shoulder and elbow. Next is the spider gears, almost every time an Rd20145 power divider is worn so are the diff internal gears (spider gears). Now because the rear wasn't pulled, broke down and inspected you risk blowing up the internal gears in the near future and you risk ruining everything you just installed. Anytime the power divider is replaced it absolutely needs to be re-shimmed too. We don't set the shimming with the o-ring because they rip fairly easy and they should always be replaced part number 5-x-1034 . Do it once and do it right, pull it and have it done properly.
Would appreciate a video showing the proper way. 👍
Man that’s a pretty good video the camera loves you good job
Great work man thanks
Wana heat bearings to 100°c/212°f ? Wrap in wet towel put in microwave DO NOT let towel dry out. Perfect every time.
Nice thanks for the comment
Good work mate 👍, i'm a diesel mechanic 🤝
Pretty sure I could do it after watching this! Need an outro Joe!
I’ll work on that
Very informative video.
Thank you
Down and dirty.....Don't be skeered.....excellent vid...BLIZZARD of 1977...front rear end started popping on the way to St. Louis....Crossroads' food was getting bad...ran across the old bridge trying to avoid the roadblocks...cops stopped me trying to get on I-55 and escorted me to American Legion at Monee....smudge pot in a snowbank and a kind-hearted local got us a ride into Chicago Kenworth for a reman chunk.....froze my ass off in that snowbank putting it back together....sure was happy to be back on the way to Gateway 2 days later.....Ahh, those were the days ...LMFAO
Great video. This guy is my kind of people
You are the man!!great video
Very Very nice video ilike it
If I could add, just use your house oven to heat the bearing. 200 to 250 degrees will be plenty.
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What does it mean if my inner axle differential is stuck on. The shift cylinder moves back-and-forth when I take the air supply off and push it with a screwdriver but when it’s jacked up both axles have to be up to turn. It’s not an old international, it has air going to the cylinder when I actuate the dash switch. The collar must be stuck. What parts do I need besides the shift cylinder housing that I rounded the nut on trying to get off?
I would loosen yoke nut before removing unit first.
Good job Sr.
Thanks for sharing your info
Thank you. I literally just blew mine a couple of hours ago
Forged them for 20 years with Eaton Corporation and a few years with Dana .
I've seen a young driver use the wrong gear on a shallow incline with a Peterbilt hauling a D-9 dozer on a low boy and cleaned that divider right off ...just from a wrong gear selection..and a lot of weight ..
Great video couldn't have done any better myself I would have done that the same as you just did no different
Bearing can be heat in a oil bath
If your going to clean out the pumpkin use two all thread bolts to slide the diff out enough to clean the pumpkin then slide it back in.
Good idea
Thanks for the video
Glad I came across this video
In the side of the road?
Anyway, great video
Great job explaining. Thank you
Thank you, keep it up. 💯
Great video. I missed what model truck.
It was irrelevant for the porpoise of the video but it was a pro star
@@HoneyRiverRanch Thanks
Great video
Wonderful video brother
Good helpful video. Well done.
You are the man thankz a lot 👍👍👍
Great video !!!!!!
Hi, thanks for your video, amazing. I am apprentice. First power divider I pull and installed. So much help your videos ,again thanks 🙏 .and expecting more videos from you boss 🫡🇨🇦
I subscribed to your channel. Good job
Thank you! You saved me a lot of money and time. Where do you get the rebuild kit? I’m having a time finding one. I have a Dana spicer DS 521 P 4: 33gear ratio
Inland truck parts
Thank u bud I appreciate that video and the money
I really think it could help some folks out thanks for watching
You know the bud is gúd when you agree w/every comment
Good job
Please I need parts list for DP581P DANA SPLICER differential
I agree. Bet on the spiders or splines being the problem.
How much up and down play before you have to do this to you rear axle?
I got this problem in a automatic dd13. Where they only got 2 bolts connected to the drive shaft yoke. The bolts keeps sheering off stupid
Hi sir, I found the bearing piece on my different , mechanics saying I need a new differential , where I can get those parts is 3.58 double locker
I have a mack and the only way it will move is if I put the lockers in would this kit work for that
Thanks brother.
Thank you very much, very helpful.
Gracias, Great Video.
Thank you great video so much respect
Thank you boss
I was stuck on uneven ground and I locked the interaxle diff while the wheel is spinning. Now, it's not locking anymore and I don't have four wheel drive if I get stuck again. Will this job fix my problem?
I’d say it would fix it something wrong with that shift ring we showed in the video
Driver should stop, engage the lockout clutch, then proceed on slip road. If spinout, use sand, chain, gravel, etc. to make traction.
Thank you
What is the ton rating on your 3 jaw puller. I am a heavy equipment mechanic, and have a variety of pullers, but I really need one like the one you are using in this video thanks.
The type of puller he used called posi loc puller and they make alot of different sizes. They are awesome pullers can be pricey but worth it
Awesome 👍
S AND D? Rock'n the Bakken
Yep
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I had a leak between my front differential and the power divider. I waited to fix it, and blew two wheel seals out in the meantime. When I opened it up, the gear lube was milky. Fixed everything and haven’t had a problem since. I’m wondering if that compromised gear lube allowed that diff to get hot and melt those seals? I’d be curious what yours looks like when you drain it.
Sounds like your vent tube is plugged. Better make sure it’s venting properly
Greatness
All of my gears and bearings look good. The input shaft just sheered clean. Would you suggest me getting the input shaft kit? Or just the new input shaft. I know the video is 3 years old. Just looking for some input
I’d just change the parts that got damaged
If your gonna cook bearings with a torch at least use a steel plate. Heat the plate up from beneath with a torch,with bearing on to of plate. It will more evenly heat the bearing. All you ever need is 125 degree Celsius or 250f.
That flame with starter fluid next to it.shop saftey
Is that a 40000 lb rated axle set and if so were the others you repaired as well and did they all have a similar failure within the carrier nest. The reason I ask is that there is supposed to be quite a difference in strength between a typical 40 vs 46000 power divider and 40's I am told are a real weak point in the power divider when it comes to being used off road.
About 1 to 2 ratio I’ve done more 40s because there is more out there but the same shock load will Shatter the 46s too and I’ve done several of the big ones with the same failure
@@HoneyRiverRanch Of course the driver claims it wasn't him, it was "the other guy" who drove it previously !. Seriously though, I wonder what the heck they are doing to blow a 46 as I have friends who have driven an awful lot of off road, log hauling and various oilfield slogging through typical deep mud churning or attempting to climb hills they spin out on etc with chains on and never blown a divider in their life. I wonder if they are popping the clutch or engaging the power divider when spinning.
I think It happens when they break traction on a slick spot on the road then it hooks back up hard I don’t know. Our deal is oil field. There’s this one hill that claims one truck a day. You gotta climb it in second gear with your PDL locked in and you can’t get a run at it cuz there is a sharp turn at the bottom and I think there is a lot of crow hoping loaded on that hill. In my opinion if you chained down the drives so they couldn’t spin at all and forced the drive train around to see where it would fail , it would fail in this spot every time it’s just the weak link. And yes it’s driver error. I’ve ridden with drivers who were spinning wheels and didn’t even know it or feel it. Your first instinct should be to let off the throttle as soon as u feel a spin but u would be surprises how many drivers don’t feel it when they get into a wheel spin
@@HoneyRiverRanch Is this a gravel road or more of a true off road trail pushed through for access. Many years ago I worked at Schlumberger up here in Alberta one winter although I only had my class 3 at the time for driving a tandem but depending on what type of job were were doing we had tractor trailers etc and we would chain up both drive axles ( 2 sets of triple chains ) and those tractors would have had three or four way lockers as well and with the steepness of the grade they still would spin out and had to be dragged up the hill with a cat. I was in second gear with the body job with one set of triples on one hill and just about powering out, not enough grunt with the old L10 Cummins in a body job. And yet oddly enough we were not blowing out power dividers, I think part of it is guys with experience and knowing when to call it quits and not start digging and hopping as that would kill a driveline. There is so much torque going through the drive shafts and diffs in a low gear pulling hard, the odds don't favor a guy for sure.
@@charlesb4267 yeah this in north west ND and your rite driver decision making plays the biggest part in these types of failures. Most failures actually
I notice strange lines (almost like search marks) on my rear drive axle super single tires. More lines on driver side tire. The front drive axle tires are perfectly fine. Just wondering whether this could be a differential axle issue? Any thoughts? Suggestions?
The rear always pulls harder than the front especially the right rear
If I'm just changing the bearings behind the yoke , do I pull that nose cone and assembly like that ?
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Im about to pay a roadside service callout mechanic to do this in a parking lot. They said they have the parts.
How did that turn out
Besides the $1000 tow bill, 3500 parts and labor.
On my truck Rear left driver side wheel spinning but the other drives don't differential switch on. What can be the issue?