It's funny that Jen remembers Harley from the animated series, because Harley was created FOR the animated series. She didn't exist before and became a beloved member of the universe.
Fun fact: The line "I'm Batman!" was completely unscripted. No joke! Batman was supposed to say something like, "I'm the night!" or something like that. But Burton and Keaton didn't really think it was good enough. So Burton let Keaton make something up. Thus, history was made.
I graduated from the Joe Kubert School in the spring of '89, and thanks to some connections at DC we had a copy of a draft of that opening scene well before anyone had seen it. While maybe 10% of the dialogue from that script got changed during filming, that "I'm Batman" line was definitely there as the final line of the scene. There may have been some preamble to the line about being the night and all that, but "I'm Batman" was definitely there.
Every Batman actor has said it since in every movie series variation (it's not said in "Batman Returns") until Batman v Superman, when it's officially broken. It's iconic.
Cool little nugget: my uncle worked on the matte paintings used for this movie. He specifically worked on the opening shot of Gotham, Axis Chemicals in daytime, and Gotham cathedral in the 3rd act. Glad you guys watched this in time for The Flash.
Literally the only reason I like Batman and Robin, a family friend has a small part in the movie so it's something I've watched since I was young and at this point it's kind of grown on me in a rash sort of way.
@@CuidightheachODuinn I've always liked Batman and Robin. At first probably just because I was a kid when it came out but later on it became one of those "so bad it's good" movies for me to watch
This was actually the Batman I grew up with. Its not perfect, but I'll always have a special place in my heart for 1989 and Returns. And the scores by Danny Elfman are some of the best in the entire superhero genre.
Even without nostalgia goggles, Michael Keaton, just like Christopher Reeves as Superman, was born to play Batman. He didn´t just deliver a performance; To many he made a childhood hero come to life on the big screen for the first time in 1989. Jen is going to love Batman Returns. It´s even darker and Michelle Pfeiffer just steals the movie.
At about 5:00 - Michael Gough as Alfred and Pat Hingle as Commissioner Gordon returned for all four of the films ('89, Returns, Forever, & Robin). Also of note, this film features no less than 3 Star Wars actors, as well. Billy Dee Williams (Lando) is Harvey Dent, Garrick Hagon (Biggs Darklighter) is the tourist dad at the being, and William Hootkins (Jek Porkins/Red 6) is Lt. Eckhardt here.
Christopher Fairbank who plays the thug in the beginning of the movie that asks Batman "Who are you?!?" also played Ulaf, the elderly prisoner that dies in Andor
Also The late great Jack Palance who plays the mobster... He was the inspiration for the look of Dc's villian Darkseid created by the Late Great Jack Kirby
I saw this film as a kid (6 years old) at a drive-thru theater. This is the movie that made me fall in love with movies in general. I was like, "If movies are this good, then I want to watch movies for the rest of my life." Ahhh, great childhood memories. Great reaction! 👍🏿
As iconic as Jack’s performance is it’s really his best, more sinister Caesar Romero impression. As for Keaton’s Batman/Bruce Wayne, he was the first actor to portray the two as two sides of the same person much like Christopher Reeve did with Clark Kent/Superman.
I was able to watch 1989 Batman at my local movie theater for a "Flashback Cinema" It made me love the movie even more! I can't wait to see him in the new Flash movie. Love you guys and hope Jen's delivery goes great!
The Dark Knight movies took a lot of inspirations from these movies, from the Joker taking over the crime bosses, telling Batman to kill him while walking down the street, and even using a pencil to kill someone
I loved this movie when it came out. The Danny Elfman dramatic score on top of the Prince tracks backing them added to the movie. Keaton and Nicholson paired together well as Batman and Joker. Side note: Alicia, Joker's girl at the beginning, was Jerry Hall. She was Mick Jagger's longtime girlfriend.
Michael Keaton will always be my Batman. I love that he emotes mostly through his actions and less through speech. That’s always been more appealing to me.
Think you may enjoy Robert too then if you haven't seen The Batman. Maybe not to the degree as Keaton but Robert does quite a bit of non speech emoting I guess you could call it.
So glad to see you and Jen watching Tim Burtons Batman '89. This was my introduction to the character, and where my love for him started. I'm from London (UK) and my mum took me to Orlando, Florida in 1989, when I was seven, whilst there we watched many films, in between trips to Disney World and Wet 'n Wild, among them were Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, Parenthood, and Batman. Batman blew me away, even at such a young age, and he's remained my favourite comic book character ever since. This film will ALWAYS have a special place in my heart, along with Michael Keaton and Tim Burton. Also loved Jack Nicholsons' Joker. And the Prince soundtrack too! 🤌
@@bransolo11 Agreed! I should have added that Danny Elfman also made this movie so special for me. So hearing his scores across the decades, especially in films like the OG Spider-Man trilogy, has always been a treat.
For myself, Michael Keaton will always be "my" Batman. I saw it new in 1989 and the movie blew me away. A dark and violent Batman (like in the comic books back then) vs the overly campy 70's TV show I grew up watching. This movie forever changed how Batman was portrayed in movies moving forward.
Also, the father at the beginning of the picture - the one getting K.O.'d with the gun at 6:58 - is played by Garrick Hagon, who played Biggs in the original Star Wars movie.
This film when released in the summer of 1988 was absolutely groundbreaking. Something folks don’t remember. The hype the merchandise was massive. And I just watched it again at a theatre in Chelmsford, Essex UK today.
The robber quoting the American Express credit card advert at the start of the movie is Christopher Fairbank. You guys recently watched him as the elder prisoner Ulaf in the awesome Andor series.
It’s only because Beetlejuice was successful at the box office that Tim Burton was able to direct Batman in 1988-89. Michael Keaton is my all time favorite Batman ever! 🦇
Watched this movie in the cinema when it was first released and it was an amazing experience....the scene of Batman driving through the woods to the bat cave with the musical score was just the best ever.
"Ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?" is one of those movie lines that always sticks in your head. And it really feeds into the amount of insanity Jack Nicholson put into playing The Joker. On another note, I would really love to have a Lego set based on the 1989 Batmobile. I got the 1960s TV show Batmobile this past Christmas as a gift. I love it, but a movie Batmobile would look amazing in my collection too.
Being a kid and watching this movie with only the way a kid could enjoy more than any one else; this movie was absolutely EPIC. I remember the TOYS that just opened up during and after this movie premiered are still collector items today. Jack Nicholson as the Joker is who everyone that has played the Joker since uses as the ground work and then Michael Keaton, whom no one wanted, just nailed it. What a pick!
I was around nineteen when this released back in '89, and yes, it was huge, it was a stark contrast to what we were used to with the Adam West Batman. One of the biggest things that will always stand out was the casting of Keaton as Batman. Keaton was primarily only known as a comedic actor and casting him drew the ire of a lot of people, the media, you name it, obviously Tim Burton knew what he was doing. lol
I like that this movie is more comic book-y than the Nolan films. Batman is a guy who dresses up in a bat costume to fight crime. Trying to make that "realistic" and "grounded" is a fool's errand in my opinion. Burton placed him in this fantastical world where a guy dressing up as a bat to fight a crime boss who looks like a clown makes sense.
For me the biggest shock in this film was the guy that says "What are you"? On the rooftop. Growing up in the UK everyone knew Christopher Fairbank as "Moxey" from the comedy series Auf Weidersein Pet. Trust me, my mind was blown
Yep, I remember him from Auf Weidersein Pet as well and he's so recognisable, He's been in so many films that has been made in the UK, from Batman to the Fifth Element, to Guardians of the Galaxy.
When I learned that people at the time were shocked on how much darker and violent Batman Returns was, and how controversial that became, my reaction was "Did... Didn't they watch Batman?"
Batman (1989) is my favorite movie of all time and I'm glad you guys are watching it. I'm looking forward to your reaction to Batman Returns, I know Jen might love it.
This came out when I was about 10. And it got me into all the comics and movies. Hard to be even handed about 89Batman b/c of how many times I’ve seen it. Glad others think of it as their favorite film too!!
Batman Returns I didn’t care for… it was “too much Tim Burton.” It was a Tim Burton movie, it was literally a repeat of Edward Scissorhands with the Penguin. It wasn’t about Batman
@@nsasupporter7557 Totally agree; Returns was like a visual resume for Burton. It had a superfluous villain and got the tone wrong too; it was too dark for kids and too silly for adults.
@@TerribleEnglish the reason why it was the way it was was because the first movie was such a huge hit, so Warner bros gave Burton full control over the next movie so he made it his own world and not “the world of Batman.” But because people were so outraged by it, they told Burton to step down as director… well what do you expect? You gave him full control
@@nsasupporter7557 Then I suppose they thought the problem with Returns was the dark aspect (when it was actually the silly aspect) and made the next 2 movies overly silly and campy..
It's also been said that Metropolis is New York during daylight, Gotham is New York at night. It's why the statue of liberty has appeared in movies in both Metropolis in the Reeve movies, and Gotham in Batman Forever. Metropolis is usually New York though. And Gotham is Chicago, rather than the other way around. Mostly because the Dark Knight movies used Chicago for filming. But to be honest, there's really no correct answer. The basis for those cities changes depending on who is writing or drawing anyway, so what's right today may be wrong tomorrow.
If I remember, Batman Returns was a little too dark for the merchandise people, and the studio wanted a lot more "LIGHTER Batman, which Tim Burton didn't want to be a part of. Michael Keaton was out when Burton didn't want to go with the new direction. It's all about those lunch boxes..
Actually, Holden, the Batman we see in Batman TAS is not the same as Burton's Batman. Batman TAS is a completely new interpretation and is set in the DCAU, not Burton's universe.
Jack Nicholson (Joker) and Michelle Pfeiffer (Catwoman) starred together in "Wolf" a modern werewolf movie. Tim Burton's direction and style made the Batwoman comeback truly special. I loved Holden's jokes about Vicki staying over !!
7:56 That actor is Christopher Fairbank and he played Ulaf in Andor and the Broker in Guardians of the Galaxy but was best known in the UK in the eighties as Moxey in Auf Wiedersehen Pet.
Thanks to the first two Burton films, Batman on film came back to his dark roots, starting with the excellent animated series of the 90s, not only in tone, but in art direction, as in you don’t know what time period it takes place in.
Dennis O'Neil and Neal Adams in the mid 70s brought Batman back to his dark roots. They were followed by Allan Moore (The Killing Joke) and Frank miller (The Dark Knight Rises). All of those came long before this movie. Tim Burton brought that to the movies while Warner Bros wanted something like Adam West's show. He was brave to fight for his vision of the movie, but didn't bring anything new to the character.
Harley Quin was not a comic book creation but made for the animated TV series episode Joker's Favor and was originally only intended for that one episode. She didnt make it into the comics untill 1999
Nobody ever talks about how unmatched and not much of a threat Nicholsons joker is when taking batman on 1 on 1 at the end, like batman was already injured from the batwing crash and taking on 3 henchmen in the bell tower before getting to joker and batman just beats him up no problem. Also no one talks about how Vicky vale goes to give joker a blowjob to distract him before batman beats him up,Like that's not really something I want in my batman movie, or any adaption for that matter
Speaking of Red Hood, you guys should watch Batman: Under the Red Hood. It’s an animated film, but it’s about Batman’s sidekick Robin being killed by the Joker, but he’s brought back to life and decides to kill the Joker.
Every movie has its crucial line or scene that sums up the point: this was dual origin story, so the line in the bell tower when Batman is stalkin Joker after the intial beatdown and Batman says "i made you, you made me first." That is the cyclops eye of the whole movie....thats the defining moment of the film, bruces acknowledgment and defeat of his past.
Michael Keaton is my childhood's batman, and tbh when i think about it, his, as you call it, "one note delivery" is similar to Kevin Conroy's. So it only serves to solidify him for me as the canonical batman.
i love this movie with all my heart, saw it after watching Batman the Animated series and it only cemented my love of Batman as a kid. My favorite Batman movie might be Batman Returns, Tim Burton just captures the feel of Gotham City perfectly. The Joel Schumacher are also fun, i feel like they're a lot like the James Bond films with Roger Moore (goofy and cheesy but entertaining)
I was working in a theater when Batman premiered. We had 8 screens. I think Batman was on 6 of them for the first couple of weeks. And they were all packed. So much popcorn to clean off the floor after every show...
Surprised you didn't remind Jen, about 25 years later Michael Keaton would go over to the MCU and star as another flying creature, this time a bad guy as well, The Vulture, from Spiderman: Homecoming.
i was 10yo when this came out, every kid in my year wanted to see it but it was the first ever movie in the UK to be given a 12 rating so nobody in my year couldgo and watch it. cinemas were super strict about the age limit as it was the first movie given a 12 rating, but my dad being my dad took me to a late night screening knowing that it was only younger people working those times and were easier to bribe haha i was the coolest kid in my school year as i was the only person to see it for 6months until it came out on video.
Fun fact: Eckhart is played by the same actor who played Perkins in Star Wars, he was also in Raiders of the Lost Ark, he played one of the G-men who asked Indy to get the Ark.
When this movie was coming the build up was incredible, many stories on the news , Batman logo was everywhere, I was working offshore and the Batman logo was on alot of hard hats, thanks
Fun Fact: The father who gets mugged at the beginning played Luke Skywalker’s best friend Biggs in the Death Star battle in A New Hope. And Eckhardt played another pilot, Porkins, who’s the first to die in the battle. He was also in Raiders Of The Lost Ark.
Michael Keaton is the Batman GOAT. Now thats its been 31 years later and he's back doing his Batman again in the Flash. I always wanted to be Batman after i saw this. Its why i do an 89 Bat cosplay.
The first thing I saw was the animated series in the 90s. The ambiance, directing, stories, characters were so compelling for just a cartoon show... Ask Jen if she has seen the episode of the trial with Joker oas the Judge basically asking who came first, Batman or the baddies? It was so philosophical for a kids show !
This movie MADE me lol. My first superhero movie, probably my first movie ever. I was born in 88, can’t remember the first time I watched, but I had seen it enough times by my 6th birthday that I frequently performed the fight choreography in my front yard, with full mask, Cape and chest plate. (BTW, Batman Returns is, like Die Hard, an unexpectedly great Christmas movie, I watch it every year) This and the sequel defined both Batman and comic book movies for me, love Burtons dark yet campy style. And the Prince soundtrack is *chefs kiss*
The robber that Batman holds over the alley at the beginning is also the older prisoner who dies in Andor. Thought you might like that tidbit since you recently watched the show.
This is my Batman. And there is a Bob Kane cameo...I've still got the promotional badge they gave away at the cinema here in the UK. Jack just eats up the screen..."Let's Get Nuts".
Actually, 'Batman' was shot in England, I remember how that helped Keaton from hearing and seeing all the negative press he was getting for being cast as the Dark Knight. 'Batman Returns' was shot at Warner Bros. and Universal studios in Los Angeles. The artist that gaves Knox the drawing of a bat, that was Bob Kane.
It's funny that Jen remembers Harley from the animated series, because Harley was created FOR the animated series. She didn't exist before and became a beloved member of the universe.
Fun fact: The line "I'm Batman!" was completely unscripted. No joke! Batman was supposed to say something like, "I'm the night!" or something like that. But Burton and Keaton didn't really think it was good enough. So Burton let Keaton make something up. Thus, history was made.
I graduated from the Joe Kubert School in the spring of '89, and thanks to some connections at DC we had a copy of a draft of that opening scene well before anyone had seen it. While maybe 10% of the dialogue from that script got changed during filming, that "I'm Batman" line was definitely there as the final line of the scene. There may have been some preamble to the line about being the night and all that, but "I'm Batman" was definitely there.
Every Batman actor has said it since in every movie series variation (it's not said in "Batman Returns") until Batman v Superman, when it's officially broken. It's iconic.
Let's get nuts! I heard was a Keaton improv
I doubt there was much that was actually scripted. You can tell this was not thoroughly thought through.
I am the night didn't come out right, because Kevin Conroy wasn't saying it.
Cool little nugget: my uncle worked on the matte paintings used for this movie. He specifically worked on the opening shot of Gotham, Axis Chemicals in daytime, and Gotham cathedral in the 3rd act.
Glad you guys watched this in time for The Flash.
Literally the only reason I like Batman and Robin, a family friend has a small part in the movie so it's something I've watched since I was young and at this point it's kind of grown on me in a rash sort of way.
@@CuidightheachODuinn I've always liked Batman and Robin. At first probably just because I was a kid when it came out but later on it became one of those "so bad it's good" movies for me to watch
This was actually the Batman I grew up with. Its not perfect, but I'll always have a special place in my heart for 1989 and Returns. And the scores by Danny Elfman are some of the best in the entire superhero genre.
Yes, it is perfect… it was the best Batman movie.
This batman and the animated series are my childhood.
@@Twomp209 you’ll probably disagree but I actually liked Batman Forever… better than Returns, actually
@@nsasupporter7557 cool beans,glad ya love batman.
@@Twomp209 I didn’t like Batman and Robin, but who did?
Even without nostalgia goggles, Michael Keaton, just like Christopher Reeves as Superman, was born to play Batman.
He didn´t just deliver a performance;
To many he made a childhood hero come to life on the big screen for the first time in 1989.
Jen is going to love Batman Returns.
It´s even darker and Michelle Pfeiffer just steals the movie.
At about 5:00 - Michael Gough as Alfred and Pat Hingle as Commissioner Gordon returned for all four of the films ('89, Returns, Forever, & Robin).
Also of note, this film features no less than 3 Star Wars actors, as well. Billy Dee Williams (Lando) is Harvey Dent, Garrick Hagon (Biggs Darklighter) is the tourist dad at the being, and William Hootkins (Jek Porkins/Red 6) is Lt. Eckhardt here.
Christopher Fairbank who plays the thug in the beginning of the movie that asks Batman "Who are you?!?" also played Ulaf, the elderly prisoner that dies in Andor
Only lando matters in that list of characters.
William Hootkins was also one of the agents that meets Indiana Jones at his university at the beginning of Raiders of the Lost Ark.
That was Biggs?
Also The late great Jack Palance who plays the mobster...
He was the inspiration for the look of Dc's villian Darkseid created by the Late Great Jack Kirby
This is my mom’s all-time favorite Batman film! She watched it in theaters with her parents when she was eleven.
Why is seeing Holden’s face over Alfred’s as he asks if the sheets should be changed the funniest thing I’ve seen all day?😂😂😂
I saw this film as a kid (6 years old) at a drive-thru theater. This is the movie that made me fall in love with movies in general. I was like, "If movies are this good, then I want to watch movies for the rest of my life." Ahhh, great childhood memories. Great reaction! 👍🏿
As iconic as Jack’s performance is it’s really his best, more sinister Caesar Romero impression.
As for Keaton’s Batman/Bruce Wayne, he was the first actor to portray the two as two sides of the same person much like Christopher Reeve did with Clark Kent/Superman.
No
Cesar Romero joker is campy and Jack Nicholson Joker is sinister and evil. Heath Leager joker is .....no comment
I was able to watch 1989 Batman at my local movie theater for a "Flashback Cinema"
It made me love the movie even more! I can't wait to see him in the new Flash movie. Love you guys and hope Jen's delivery goes great!
I like it being the Joker who did the deed. Batman and the Joker created each other.
The Dark Knight movies took a lot of inspirations from these movies, from the Joker taking over the crime bosses, telling Batman to kill him while walking down the street, and even using a pencil to kill someone
"Baby number 2" made me cry lmaoo shit was funny asf
Yo if my significant other - on her own - suggested I dress as Batman and she’ll be Harley Q (or preferably, Catwoman) I’d be all-in.
@@DylanMadd but fr 😂 totally agree
I loved this movie when it came out. The Danny Elfman dramatic score on top of the Prince tracks backing them added to the movie. Keaton and Nicholson paired together well as Batman and Joker. Side note: Alicia, Joker's girl at the beginning, was Jerry Hall. She was Mick Jagger's longtime girlfriend.
Michael Keaton will always be my Batman. I love that he emotes mostly through his actions and less through speech. That’s always been more appealing to me.
Think you may enjoy Robert too then if you haven't seen The Batman. Maybe not to the degree as Keaton but Robert does quite a bit of non speech emoting I guess you could call it.
@@CrazeeAdam I have seen The Batman and I do love that interpretation of Batman as well. It very much reminded me of Keaton. Great movie! 👍
So glad to see you and Jen watching Tim Burtons Batman '89. This was my introduction to the character, and where my love for him started. I'm from London (UK) and my mum took me to Orlando, Florida in 1989, when I was seven, whilst there we watched many films, in between trips to Disney World and Wet 'n Wild, among them were Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, Parenthood, and Batman. Batman blew me away, even at such a young age, and he's remained my favourite comic book character ever since. This film will ALWAYS have a special place in my heart, along with Michael Keaton and Tim Burton. Also loved Jack Nicholsons' Joker. And the Prince soundtrack too! 🤌
We need a golden reaction to the raimi Spiderman scores lol
@@bransolo11 Agreed! I should have added that Danny Elfman also made this movie so special for me. So hearing his scores across the decades, especially in films like the OG Spider-Man trilogy, has always been a treat.
@@AnthonyScott5425 Let’s not forget his scoring for the first The Flash television series…
What?! You didn’t see Ghostbusters II?!?!
Or The Last Crusade?!?!
Love Michael Keatons role as Batman!
For myself, Michael Keaton will always be "my" Batman. I saw it new in 1989 and the movie blew me away. A dark and violent Batman (like in the comic books back then) vs the overly campy 70's TV show I grew up watching. This movie forever changed how Batman was portrayed in movies moving forward.
Keaton appearing as Batman in the Flash movie just confirmed to me that he is the best Batman ever in my opinion.
Holden with his one liners got me howling over here 😂 Never change
Billy Dee Williams isn't the only Star Wars actor in the film. William Hootkins (Lt. Eckhardt), was Porkins in the original Star Wars movie.
Also, the father at the beginning of the picture - the one getting K.O.'d with the gun at 6:58 - is played by Garrick Hagon, who played Biggs in the original Star Wars movie.
This film when released in the summer of 1988 was absolutely groundbreaking. Something folks don’t remember. The hype the merchandise was massive. And I just watched it again at a theatre in Chelmsford, Essex UK today.
Hey Holden and Jen. I am glad we are getting the old batman films. I just got done watching them myself. I can't wait to see the video reaction.
The robber quoting the American Express credit card advert at the start of the movie is Christopher Fairbank. You guys recently watched him as the elder prisoner Ulaf in the awesome Andor series.
It’s only because Beetlejuice was successful at the box office that Tim Burton was able to direct Batman in 1988-89. Michael Keaton is my all time favorite Batman ever! 🦇
My too!
Watched this movie in the cinema when it was first released and it was an amazing experience....the scene of Batman driving through the woods to the bat cave with the musical score was just the best ever.
"Ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?" is one of those movie lines that always sticks in your head. And it really feeds into the amount of insanity Jack Nicholson put into playing The Joker.
On another note, I would really love to have a Lego set based on the 1989 Batmobile. I got the 1960s TV show Batmobile this past Christmas as a gift. I love it, but a movie Batmobile would look amazing in my collection too.
Being a kid and watching this movie with only the way a kid could enjoy more than any one else; this movie was absolutely EPIC. I remember the TOYS that just opened up during and after this movie premiered are still collector items today. Jack Nicholson as the Joker is who everyone that has played the Joker since uses as the ground work and then Michael Keaton, whom no one wanted, just nailed it. What a pick!
I happen to be one of the few that actually loves Batman Forever. Val Kilmer's Batman is so underrated, he had a great Batman voice.
I was around nineteen when this released back in '89, and yes, it was huge, it was a stark contrast to what we were used to with the Adam West Batman. One of the biggest things that will always stand out was the casting of Keaton as Batman. Keaton was primarily only known as a comedic actor and casting him drew the ire of a lot of people, the media, you name it, obviously Tim Burton knew what he was doing. lol
I like that this movie is more comic book-y than the Nolan films. Batman is a guy who dresses up in a bat costume to fight crime. Trying to make that "realistic" and "grounded" is a fool's errand in my opinion. Burton placed him in this fantastical world where a guy dressing up as a bat to fight a crime boss who looks like a clown makes sense.
Kevin Conroy & Michael Keaton Was My Batman When I Was Growing Up Was Born In 1997 But My Parents Put That Movies On And Show For Us
For me the biggest shock in this film was the guy that says "What are you"? On the rooftop.
Growing up in the UK everyone knew Christopher Fairbank as "Moxey" from the comedy series Auf Weidersein Pet. Trust me, my mind was blown
Yep, I remember him from Auf Weidersein Pet as well and he's so recognisable, He's been in so many films that has been made in the UK, from Batman to the Fifth Element, to Guardians of the Galaxy.
7:57, The thief who said what are you was in marvel Guardians Of the galaxy
7:05 So apparently, Tim Burton’s Batman is the kind of hero that watches a family get robbed from a distance. Interesting choice . . .🤔
When I learned that people at the time were shocked on how much darker and violent Batman Returns was, and how controversial that became, my reaction was "Did... Didn't they watch Batman?"
Breeders complain about because it wasn't for "Kids"
Eckhardt was played by William Hootkins, who played the Rebel pilot Porkins in Star Wars, and the “Top Men” guy in Raiders of the Lost Ark
this is the batman theme as far as this was made the batman theme for this movie. this is part of how good this movie is.
Batman and Batman Returns are still my favorites
Batman (1989) is my favorite movie of all time and I'm glad you guys are watching it. I'm looking forward to your reaction to Batman Returns, I know Jen might love it.
This came out when I was about 10. And it got me into all the comics and movies. Hard to be even handed about 89Batman b/c of how many times I’ve seen it. Glad others think of it as their favorite film too!!
Batman Returns I didn’t care for… it was “too much Tim Burton.” It was a Tim Burton movie, it was literally a repeat of Edward Scissorhands with the Penguin. It wasn’t about Batman
@@nsasupporter7557 Totally agree; Returns was like a visual resume for Burton. It had a superfluous villain and got the tone wrong too; it was too dark for kids and too silly for adults.
@@TerribleEnglish the reason why it was the way it was was because the first movie was such a huge hit, so Warner bros gave Burton full control over the next movie so he made it his own world and not “the world of Batman.” But because people were so outraged by it, they told Burton to step down as director… well what do you expect? You gave him full control
@@nsasupporter7557 Then I suppose they thought the problem with Returns was the dark aspect (when it was actually the silly aspect) and made the next 2 movies overly silly and campy..
It's also been said that Metropolis is New York during daylight, Gotham is New York at night. It's why the statue of liberty has appeared in movies in both Metropolis in the Reeve movies, and Gotham in Batman Forever. Metropolis is usually New York though. And Gotham is Chicago, rather than the other way around. Mostly because the Dark Knight movies used Chicago for filming.
But to be honest, there's really no correct answer. The basis for those cities changes depending on who is writing or drawing anyway, so what's right today may be wrong tomorrow.
Came to the comments to find this 👍
If I remember, Batman Returns was a little too dark for the merchandise people, and the studio wanted a lot more "LIGHTER Batman, which Tim Burton didn't want to be a part of. Michael Keaton was out when Burton didn't want to go with the new direction. It's all about those lunch boxes..
Actually, Holden, the Batman we see in Batman TAS is not the same as Burton's Batman. Batman TAS is a completely new interpretation and is set in the DCAU, not Burton's universe.
The best you can say is that this movie inspired quite a bit of the dark, gothic Gotham we see in TAS.
Jack Nicholson (Joker) and Michelle Pfeiffer (Catwoman) starred together in "Wolf" a modern werewolf movie. Tim Burton's direction and style made the Batwoman comeback truly special. I loved Holden's jokes about Vicki staying over !!
7:56 That actor is Christopher Fairbank and he played Ulaf in Andor and the Broker in Guardians of the Galaxy but was best known in the UK in the eighties as Moxey in Auf Wiedersehen Pet.
Glad you enjoyed this one and I think you'll enjoy Batman Returns even more. Devito and Pfeiffer both put in great performances.
"Batman doesn't use guns" unless it's turrets mounted on his car or plane.
Fun fact henchmen Bob is so loved that he got his own action figure
Coincidentally, the first song Prince learned how to play when was a kid is the 1966 Batman theme!
I would love to see a “my wife plays Arkham” series.
Or better yet the DCAU
@@brucechmiel7964 it’d be cool but it’s a bit of a complicated and long viewing order. Maybe just start with mask of the phantasm or smthn.
Thanks to the first two Burton films, Batman on film came back to his dark roots, starting with the excellent animated series of the 90s, not only in tone, but in art direction, as in you don’t know what time period it takes place in.
Dennis O'Neil and Neal Adams in the mid 70s brought Batman back to his dark roots. They were followed by Allan Moore (The Killing Joke) and Frank miller (The Dark Knight Rises). All of those came long before this movie. Tim Burton brought that to the movies while Warner Bros wanted something like Adam West's show. He was brave to fight for his vision of the movie, but didn't bring anything new to the character.
No one ever mentions how Jack Napier goes from having a receding hairline to a full head of newly grown green hair as the Joker.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!! I love watching you guys' reactions, it's really exciting!
Harley Quin was not a comic book creation but made for the animated TV series episode Joker's Favor and was originally only intended for that one episode. She didnt make it into the comics untill 1999
Nobody ever talks about how unmatched and not much of a threat Nicholsons joker is when taking batman on 1 on 1 at the end, like batman was already injured from the batwing crash and taking on 3 henchmen in the bell tower before getting to joker and batman just beats him up no problem.
Also no one talks about how Vicky vale goes to give joker a blowjob to distract him before batman beats him up,Like that's not really something I want in my batman movie, or any adaption for that matter
Alfred and Gordon were the only regulars in the series. If you do count robin there was only one robin.
This is still my favorite Batman. Only people that was around at the time remembers how huge this movie was in 89
I was 5 when my parents took me to the midnight showing of Batman. The nostalgia for this imperfect gem is nuts!
This wasn’t shot at WB Studios, Holden. This was all in Englamd. Batman Returns was shot in WB in Burbank.
"You got a little crush on Harley Quinn?"
*Limbo world champion dodges bullet like Neo in the fucking Matrix*
Speaking of Red Hood, you guys should watch Batman: Under the Red Hood. It’s an animated film, but it’s about Batman’s sidekick Robin being killed by the Joker, but he’s brought back to life and decides to kill the Joker.
Every movie has its crucial line or scene that sums up the point: this was dual origin story, so the line in the bell tower when Batman is stalkin Joker after the intial beatdown and Batman says "i made you, you made me first." That is the cyclops eye of the whole movie....thats the defining moment of the film, bruces acknowledgment and defeat of his past.
Michael Keaton is my childhood's batman, and tbh when i think about it, his, as you call it, "one note delivery" is similar to Kevin Conroy's. So it only serves to solidify him for me as the canonical batman.
i love this movie with all my heart, saw it after watching Batman the Animated series and it only cemented my love of Batman as a kid. My favorite Batman movie might be Batman Returns, Tim Burton just captures the feel of Gotham City perfectly. The Joel Schumacher are also fun, i feel like they're a lot like the James Bond films with Roger Moore (goofy and cheesy but entertaining)
The miniatures were done by Derek Meddings, who also did 1978’s Superman.
I was working in a theater when Batman premiered. We had 8 screens. I think Batman was on 6 of them for the first couple of weeks. And they were all packed. So much popcorn to clean off the floor after every show...
I went to watch this the night it opened, I can confirm that the line did go around the theater.
One of my favorite lines from a movie of all time, "This town needs an enema!". I've co-opted and paraphrased that line many times in the years since.
33:50 so where does Robert Pattinson rank on both Jen and Holden's lists?
Keaton batman is great to me because you would never expect his version of bruce wayne would be batman
Surprised you didn't remind Jen, about 25 years later Michael Keaton would go over to the MCU and star as another flying creature, this time a bad guy as well, The Vulture, from Spiderman: Homecoming.
Seeing JN reminds me of him and Michelle Pfeiffer in Wolf..I have a special place in my heart for that movie…
Favourite batman hands down...i coule literally talk about this movie for hours and all the little things about it....its a work of art
i was 10yo when this came out, every kid in my year wanted to see it but it was the first ever movie in the UK to be given a 12 rating so nobody in my year couldgo and watch it. cinemas were super strict about the age limit as it was the first movie given a 12 rating, but my dad being my dad took me to a late night screening knowing that it was only younger people working those times and were easier to bribe haha i was the coolest kid in my school year as i was the only person to see it for 6months until it came out on video.
Lando is an easy spot, but did you know Lt. Eckhardt was played by William Hootkins, aka Jek Porkins (Red 3)?
89 batmobile still the best
It’s simple. I see Jen and Holden, I click play.
Fun fact: Eckhart is played by the same actor who played Perkins in Star Wars, he was also in Raiders of the Lost Ark, he played one of the G-men who asked Indy to get the Ark.
My jaw is open. Michael showed the dichotomy between Bruce and Batman so well.
Homegirl definitely rubbed the wrong rhubarb by saying Christian Bale and Val Kilmer are her Batmen.
Man, of all the films. This is probably at least one of the hardest to believe she hasn’t seen. It’s honestly is one of my top comic book films.
6:34 best wife ever
When this movie was coming the build up was incredible, many stories on the news , Batman logo was everywhere, I was working offshore and the Batman logo was on alot of hard hats, thanks
Fun Fact: The father who gets mugged at the beginning played Luke Skywalker’s best friend Biggs in the Death Star battle in A New Hope. And Eckhardt played another pilot, Porkins, who’s the first to die in the battle. He was also in Raiders Of The Lost Ark.
I'm so glad you mentioned Batman and Bill. People NEED to watch it.
Michael Keaton is the Batman GOAT. Now thats its been 31 years later and he's back doing his Batman again in the Flash. I always wanted to be Batman after i saw this. Its why i do an 89 Bat cosplay.
The first thing I saw was the animated series in the 90s. The ambiance, directing, stories, characters were so compelling for just a cartoon show... Ask Jen if she has seen the episode of the trial with Joker oas the Judge basically asking who came first, Batman or the baddies? It was so philosophical for a kids show !
This movie MADE me lol. My first superhero movie, probably my first movie ever. I was born in 88, can’t remember the first time I watched, but I had seen it enough times by my 6th birthday that I frequently performed the fight choreography in my front yard, with full mask, Cape and chest plate.
(BTW, Batman Returns is, like Die Hard, an unexpectedly great Christmas movie, I watch it every year)
This and the sequel defined both Batman and comic book movies for me, love Burtons dark yet campy style. And the Prince soundtrack is *chefs kiss*
5:05 - Pat Hingle, who plays Commissioner Gordon, also appears in all four of them.
The robber that Batman holds over the alley at the beginning is also the older prisoner who dies in Andor. Thought you might like that tidbit since you recently watched the show.
Congratulations, Jen and Holden!! 🐣🍼
Jen & Holden Like George Clooney as Batman : Throwing up
That laugh at the end lived in my mind as a little kid
To me it was that laugh and the way he falls to his death
This is my Batman. And there is a Bob Kane cameo...I've still got the promotional badge they gave away at the cinema here in the UK. Jack just eats up the screen..."Let's Get Nuts".
6:36 Holdens face at the thought of the role play is priceless 😂😂😂
(We all know what he was thinking)
The Prince soundtrack has one of my favorite songs of all time. Partyman. Prince wrote it after watching Jack Nicholson on set one day.
I love Your reactions and and im so happy jen loved it
The guy in the opening scene that asked "What are you? "to batman Is the same actor who played Ulaf in Andor, Christopher Fairbank.
Actually, 'Batman' was shot in England, I remember how that helped Keaton from hearing and seeing all the negative press he was getting for being cast as the Dark Knight. 'Batman Returns' was shot at Warner Bros. and Universal studios in Los Angeles.
The artist that gaves Knox the drawing of a bat, that was Bob Kane.
Hope you two are having an great and awesome day ❤
i am super excited to see Keaton as Batman again after all this time... i am so looking forward to the flash movie, oh also great reaction guys