@@Eric-lx8hp you know that the guy who found your country is an European man called Christopher Columbu which is italian . and you know that if any American did a DNA test it will say that he is from Europe/ africa, there is no america this land was stolen from the Indigenous people. so technically everything is build by Asians / Africans / Europeans/ Australians people. And btw English also is the language of UK not the US NOW LET THIS SING IN DEEP
@@port80764he pointed out arrogance dummy 😂 N in NBA stand for national, how is that world? Denver became NATIONAL champions after beating Miami in the finals.
Because every top 4 team from different European league plays in the league unlike NBA where every players play for America....american fanboy idiot grow your brain cells
In football there are actually 2 champions of europe on is the club champion which is currently man city and the international champions which are currently italy after euro 2020
@@cameronschmit6472in football, the UEFA champions league (which is way bigger than the nba) calls its winner “champions of europe”. . Only americans are delusional enough to call themselves ‘world champs’ after winning a national league 😂
@@MattEffect so you agree that the best talent from all over the world plays in the NBA? FIBA is a sham tournament. Let's not even talk about the americans sending their C team. Even european stars like jokic skip FIBA because they know its a joke.
@@welsonma3911 All the best soccer players are in the champions league. And it is 10 times bigger than the NBA and yet the teams there don't call themselves "world champions". They call themselves "European champions". They only consider themselves world champions when they win the world tournament that is played by teams from all over the world.
This is NOT Rocket Science. There’s no debate other than from some Americans. It’s the same with the MLB and the “World Series”, which only includes ONE other Canadian Team to an other wise all-American composition.
@@monsi852 2. a particular region or group of countries. "the English-speaking world" Like the American Basketball world you know? And by the definition some dumb people trying trying cage Americans in we wouldn't even be even able to say Champions of the U.S. cause there are Canadian teams Dummy.
It’s so true!!! Since when a NATIONAL league gives you the right to call yourself WORLD champions? That’s so arrogant! Yes, you may have the best teams, but to call yourself World champions you have to beat the world. This is what makes USA look so arrogant to the rest of the world. Besides, take a look at the results of the basketball “World Cup”. How has the USA performed on those lately? What happened in the baseball “World Cup”? Regardless, Noah Lyles is right. Stop being so arrogant. It’s the NBA championship, not the world championship!
@@kesenaememere8520exactly lol. If you want thwt tutle win. Granted USA is most likely gona win olympics by the look of it rn. Even so its not the curent NBA winers going for that olympic gold but national team.
in third grade i was first throwing a ball the furthest making me best in my grade. hence i was world champion. actually i still cause why not only deny the concept of space but time as well? now gimme dem meds
by definition a world championship is a competition between countries' teams from all over the world or individual athletes representing their countries. You cannot be world champion if you're not representing your country and playing against other countries. The NBA is a domestic league (it has national in its name) so even if it's the best league in the world their winner will never be world champion. Every big leagues in every sports have international players, it doesn't change anything. In Football the British Premier league has some of the best players from over 100 countries (way more than international players in the NBA), same for the Spanish league, and NO ONE would dare to call the winners world champions. Same with the Olympics, if you win gold you're Olympic champion, NOT world champion. Common american ignorance to call anything coming from the US as being the best
Not exactly. Just as there are world championships between national teams, each representing their own country, there are also world championships at club level. But to do that, you have to face the best clubs from the world's leagues in an open competition. This is the case in soccer. For example: the UEFA Champions League determines the best club in Europe, while the Copa Libertadores determines the champion from South America. And so there are these club championships for every region, including Asia and so on. In the end, the FIFA Club World Cup determines the world champion in the tournament of the respective club champions of all these regions. But since the NBA is a closed league and its champion does not participate in an open championship with the rest of the world, it simply defines the national champion of the US. Nothing more.
I’m sorry but this is a late comment. May I just ask where did you get your definition of “WORLD CHAMPION”? I think you may have missed the exact definition of those terms. Try to google it.
@@narutolover1098Definition “learned”: “A learned person has studied for a long time and has a lot of knowledge” - Cambridge The word exists, he used the term properly.
I don't understand why people don't understand this, or why they were even arguing against it in the first place. If basketball players want to be called World Champions, then go out and win your designated World Championship tournament. In basketball, that's the FIBA World Cup. If you don’t find the title of "World Champion" to be important enough to participate in the World Championship tournament, then that’s on you. Note that soccer players enter the FIFA World Cup so that they can be called "World Champions" if they win, because that's important to them. You can be the greatest sprinter sitting on your couch watching the World Championships saying “I could win that if I was there,” but if you’re not actually there to do it, then that’s on you, and you don’t get the title of being called “World champion." Noah Lyles was already a World Champion, now he's an Olympic Gold Medalist. South Koreans have archery competitions, they are clearly the best in the world, but they don't get to be called "World Champions" unless they actually go participate in their designated World Championship tournaments and win. They don't call themselves "World Champions" just for winning a National Tournament, even though it's the strongest competition, because it's a NATIONAL tournament.
However, basketball doesn't have any global club-level competition, and we all know that the NBA champion would be the world champion if such a competition existed.
@@adolfpereira3313 There's no global club level competition for soccer either, and World Champion has always been viewed as a champion representing a country since long before basketball and baseball, until America came along with this, so it just says more about the arrogance of America and Americans, as Giannis pointed out. And I say this as an American.
@@cantripleplays Until basketball decides to have the same thing, there is nothing like that for basketball, so the FIBA World Cup is where you can get the title of World Champion.
See notice how Americans take it personally but when a Greek player hears this a big star mvp he says the truth. Americans literally have so much bias and giannis just spoke facts
The small children playing at being professional basketball players were throwing a tantrum, when somebody explained to them, that being the NBA champion does not make you a world champion.
@@Aidanbradford0 you do know Japan has its own league right? and those Mlb" players started in that japanese league before going for more pay in the mlb. Japan showed that thier league is strongest than mlb with 3 world baseball classic WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS. That is the real WORLD SERIES. It also says japan may have better genetics to play baseball than the americans. MLB is more pay, hype and advertisement just like the rest of the american big 4. those things do not create a better league,team or players.
Finally Some one in the nba with sense... He grew up in Europe so he gets it. Even used the futbol example.The others saying otherwise must be on that Tusi at a Diddy party.... lol
@@olyokie these are some of the definitions of the word world: denoting one of the most important people or things of their class. a particular region or group of countries. a particular group of living things. "the animal world". Just because you people have a limited understanding of the English lexicon don't try to force your limitations on everybody else. Because the use of the word world to describe NBA Champs is not being used out of it's definition. Atleast don't be arrogant enough to attack other people like you know something that you know before you educate yourself atleast. Like you all are claiming Americans are
@@port80764 World Cup football - 5 Billion Viewers Tour de France - 3.5 Billion Viewers Cricket World Cup - 2.6 Billion Viewers Women’s World Cup - 2 Billion Viewers Summer Games - 2 Billion Viewers Winter Games - 2 Billion Viewers UEFA Champions League Final - 450 Million Viewers Super Bowl - 115.1 Million Viewers Wimbledon - 25.6 Million Viewers NBA Finals - 17.8 Million Viewers World Cup of Rugby- 17 Million Viewers Kentucky Derby - 16.6 Million Viewers The Masters - 15 Million Viewers World Series - 14.73 Million Viewers NCAA Final Four - 14.7 Million Viewers By your logic the champions league winners should also be called the champions of the world but they are not so arrogant and remain grounded nba has like 20 30% foreign players playing but the premier league has about 60% , why don’t u apologize to the world instead
@@templetonbob Okay, let's break it down. If you win the NBA Championship, you become NBA champion. If you win the Olympics you become Olympic Champion. If you win the FIBA Basketball World Cup, you become world champion. If you win the Euro Leauge, you become Euro League champion. If you win your own little fun family thanksgiving basketball tournament, you become champion of the little fun family thanksgiving tournament. To become champion of something, you must simply win the according championship.
@@lassevad7101 I don’t think the World Cup or the Olympics are much different. The world competes at both events. However, the Olympics are generally composed of higher caliber teams since better players are more likely to compete. You’re kind of missing the point of the original argument. It has to do with who competes, not the name of the event.
@@templetonbob It doesn't matter what you think about the olympic or world cup level. It's not about that. It's about facts. And the fact remains: It has everything to do with the name of the event - that's the whole point. It does not matter, if you are better than everyone else... that alone doesn't make you champion. A champion is the winner of a championship. Now, being the BEST team in the world, is certainly something you could call the NBA or Olympic winners. But world champions... no. You MUST, by definition, win the championship to be the champion. Period.
Giannis is right, the NBA represent America not the entire world so when you win the NBA championship you are the champions of the NBA not the world, just like the Stanley cup champions are champions of the NHL not the world champions. this is not a difficult concept to understand pretty simple.
DOES Giannis all of sudden becomes an American cuz he is playing in the NBA? Why does Embiid an NBA player needed to change his citizenship to be able to play for the United States if the NBA is truly a representative of America. Would they allow Gianni’s to represent THE United States without changing his citizenship because NBA represents America? Allowing INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS TO PLAY in the NBA truly changed its nature as an international competition. Its name and the names of the teams may not reflect its international nature but those international players changed it. It would have been purely domestic if no international player would have been allowed to play unless they change their citizenship. Jokic the current nba MVP is Serbian and he does not represent the United States at all. He’s A Serbian NBA MVP. THE NBA may therefore be allowed to call itself a world champion cuz almost 40 countries were being represented by the greatest players from all over the world.
Still no Olympics gold doesnt mean u are world champs U have to win the world cup to become world champions Thats why olympic record and world record are seperate
@@itsyoboiasu1441 go read the definition of the word world and it's proper usage and then come have this conversation with me after you educate yourself. If not don't waste my time arguing your ignorance. And don't make any other argument with me that's not based on the proper definition and usage of the word world.
Funny that this is even up for debate. And I know what I am talking about: I am world champion in all sports and disciplines in competitions made up by me in which I am the only contender. That being said, the NBA is indeed the best basketball league, nobody's contesting that.
But even the winner of the FIFA World Cup is NOT normally referred to as the World Champion. Usually the team is referred to as the WORLD CUP CHAMPION.
Okay, let’s to be clear, most of national teams only pick players from the nation, but NBA teams are picking players from the world, which have the better pick range and NBA pay way more. Which one do you think that will harder to win
that's an illogical fallacy... plucking players from other leagues and paying them more does not make your league stronger. Case in point are the Japanese league in baseball. they won the most baseball classics and produce better players with ohtani dominating mlb.
@@letmeout1 It attracts more people but it does not mean it makes the league your taking from weak. The pipeline of talent could be so strong in the league thats getting pouched that its negligible. the other side exist as well were it becomes a farmers league. Thats why you have to play the games between other leagues to find that out and also play national games. than after that you can quantify the numbers by calculating certain metrics to find out which league is stronger and which is weaker. Thats what FIFA Does. thats why you always here english premier league is the strongest futbol league in the world but the 2nd best la liga has the top 2 teams real madrid and barcelona beat the premier league in games. what I mean by metrics for basket ball would be the traditional stats like points rebounds assist, etc but also the rate these are occurring. than after the measure who wins more when facing each other in tournaments.... and by how much in order to better quantify the numbers the number guys will crunch things up and they will come with a number and rank each league. More money does not mean better
Think about it. The Champions League is the best Football/Soccer league and is better than the world. So why would they still call the champion of Europe, not the world champion?
@@port80764The word „world“ primarily regards: “the earth and all the people, places, and things on it”. The meaning you’re referring to, that it also can be a local meaning is just a secondary definition. The primary one is about the whole earth and that’s what people usually associate with this term. It isn’t ignorant to use the more common definition, in fact it’s the opposite. It’s ignorant to expect that people associate a word with a definition that is less used.
I’m grateful for Noah for firing up USA Basketball. Once they win the Gold at the 2024 Olympics they can claim they are world champions…again. Hats off to Serbia as reigning world champions for putting up a good fight.
He didn’t have to come off cocky and sound like a duck about it tho I think is what made people upset cause he did come off pretty cocky 😂 like bruh no one knows you like that calm down
Well, you certainly know him, same as pretty much every NBA player. The World champion of the 100m is usually pretty well-known even without making such a comment. He is known, no one knows YOU.
@@Elu_ahahu glazing a monkey who paints nails and uses Covid as a excuse after losing. He doesn’t KNOW U🤣🤣 defending him like u know him. Ur a weirdo💀🤣🤣
Facts americans say soccer when its FOOTBALL they really should look up which word is in FIFA .by calling your sport american football they have proven this point and then contradicted they own self
Domestic league, doesn't count. No american or any other country's domestic league champion gets to call themselves the world champion. Olympics also do not count. Win the WORLD CUP for the title. No semantics or hairsplitting about that. And when it comes to clubs, there are Club World Championships. For example basketball has the FIBA Intercontinental Cup. Congrats to Sesi Franca 🇧🇷 by the way, they are the Club World Champions as of right now
Then I guess Major League Baseball needs to downgrade from “World Series?” I wholeheartedly understand Noah’s point, but when the best from all over the world play in the nba, then I can understand why it’s called “world championship!”
No.... Japan league produce baseball players that won 3 baseball world classics and also a player in othani thats dominating your mlb league. To be world champion you have to play other country domestic league champions clubs and the same on the national side.
You are parroting what others have said instead of analyzing it for yourself. That is the problem with followers. They allow people to think for them. It is ridiculous that this is being discussed. That is America for you.😅
When you put the NBA next to any other basketball league there’s just no competition. Players try to play in the NBA not NBA players trying to play internationally or G league. Money talks. deal with it.
The term World Champion was always used in US professional sports. It wasn’t to diminish any other country. Although, the Olympics r special, for most of the sports the US sent amateurs back in the day. Now there r so many sports leagues and world competitions all over the world. So the US should remove World Champions from the professional leagues.
Oh my God are we still talking about this. Are people going to stop saying World Series or world championship. They have been saying this for decades. If it hurts your feelings then that’s up to you!
Y'all got your chance...they beat everybody by 20+ plus points diff without breaking a sweat..the Olympics showed again they are in a league of their own
U cannot compare football with basketball, winning NBA u gona be world champion bcuz their is no other teams around the world better than the united states NBA team , Noah is just a rude guy period 😊
@@port80764 World can be part of a region, correct as the US is of the world. However, how it is used in sport is not that wat, so maybe you should go educate yourself. It is out of respect for other nations why it should be called American champions. The best football players in the world play in Europe and the winner of the Champions League is defined the club champions of Europe not the world. This winner then plays in the FIFA Club World Cup against the winners from other continents.
@@Deomnibusdubitandum274 denoting one of the most important people or things of their class. modifier noun: world "a world superstar" Fits that definition because it's definitely the most important league in the world because if not the top players from around the world would not aspire to play in the NBA they way they do. 2.a particular region or group of countries Fits that definition because it's a particular region or group of countries the U.S and Canadian teams. all that relates to a particular sphere of activity. "they were a legend in the world of British theatre" Notice the example given for this last definition uses the word world to refer strictly to British theatre. 16 of 19 gold 🥇 16 of 19 gold 🥇 ☝🏿☝🏻 That's the real reason behind all the hate. 🤷🏿♂️ You can't beat find some other dumb reason to hate on them. Just be lucky African Americans don't like soccer cause if they did you the U.S would take all those medals too.
@@port80764 You just repeated the definition I stated with more words. Definitions change all the time, it is how its applied and sued within its environment that is important. The problem with using the 2a definition here is that it excludes other regions that also play the sport. Whether you believe you are the best or not is subjective. I have no doubt that the US Baskbetall team or club teams would win on the world stage, but until it happens you can't round saying it. Ha, considering an African nation has never won the world cup this doesn't make sense. The best players in the world are a mix of races. The best players in the world over the past 20 years have been those who aren't black (Messi and Ronaldo) so your point is again poor. Many black people play Football as do other races and you could name as many top white players as black.
@@Deomnibusdubitandum274 Yeah many black people play sports but most African countries are under developed and don't have access to training facilities and clubs like most European and American players have all their life. If that was the case I don't think European or American countries full of African players would win as often as they do. And I don't think you really read the definitions to keep sitting arguing with me that America or any other place in the world has the right to use world in their championship name. And what are you talking about you don't have doubt they would win but until they do. The U.S. has taken home the gold medal in the Olympics close to 85 percent of the time. What are you talking about until it happens. It happens almost every Olympics.
Giannis is huge player. As also a Greek i admire him and i am proud of him!!!! But he is not a player that can thrive in Euroleague as in NBA. Here the defences are cruel. 95% of defencive fouls are not given a foul. Last European champion he played was tough for him and for Greece. cause all teams knows how to play against an NBa player. That is why very few NBA stars was succefully while transitioning to Euroleague. In Europe every games matters plus you must play in a really pationate hell like hostiles arenas in away matches. His brother is straggling to get a place in his Euroleauge team. Within 2 years he will be top. But not now
What bullshit! Luka Doncic dominated euro league as a 19 year old and became it's youngest MVP. He has yet to achieve MVP or win something in the NBA. NBA is greater than Euro league.
World series? You people are confusing the definition of Earth and World. This is one of the definitions of the word world. "A particular region or group of countries". Another." All that relates to a particular sphere of activity." Another. "denoting one of the most important people or things of their class". If the nba didnt fit this definition him and alot of people like him wouldnt have so much aspirations to play in the nba. And these two men sitting here agreeing with him probably have zero problem when baseball has the world series every year. And its funny how much hate is directed at American basketball players for the dominance that they have in the sport. Even alot of American people of European descent are so jealous hearted of the dominance that American basketball players have in the sport its starting to seem like to me for some people its a racial thing. I understand why foriegners would naturally feel some sort of jealousy bseeing that type of dominance but hey look on the bright side atleast African Americans are not interested in soccer. But i dont understand why so many Americans participate in this hate. Why get your panties in a bunch over a word? Especially when the use of the word world is not even being used improperly if you know what the definition of the word world really encompasses you would know there is absolutely no problem with the eay the word is bring used by the nba. Another thing i noticed so many people making these comments about how the world is catching up finally with American basketball. American people at that too. But watching the u17 team this year completely dominating the rest of the world like its never been done before breaking record after record. Im thinking where is this coming from?
I love Giannis ,he is my favorite basketball player
Americans live in their own world
Go read the definition of the word world please
You know UA-cam is an American company
@@Eric-lx8hp you know that the guy who found your country is an European man called Christopher Columbu which is italian .
and you know that if any American did a DNA test it will say that he is from Europe/ africa, there is no america this land was stolen from the Indigenous people. so technically everything is build by Asians / Africans / Europeans/ Australians people. And btw English also is the language of UK not the US
NOW LET THIS SING IN DEEP
@@port80764he pointed out arrogance dummy 😂
N in NBA stand for national, how is that world? Denver became NATIONAL champions after beating Miami in the finals.
@@port80764go talk to an American
The UEFA Champions League winners are called
Champions of Europe
UEFA are Europe champions club so what are you talking about ?
@@seanpersie they are 10× bigger than NBA but don't called the winner as world champions.
NBA world are delusionals
@@sjjsshshshh exactly
Because every top 4 team from different European league plays in the league unlike NBA where every players play for America....american fanboy idiot grow your brain cells
In football there are actually 2 champions of europe on is the club champion which is currently man city and the international champions which are currently italy after euro 2020
Giannis is so mature and humble.
The whole discusion was simply pathetic, the reaction of many NBA crybabys even more. Noah was damn right. And everybody with a sane mind, knows it..
Oh that’s right every other country’s best players aren’t in the NBA I forgot
@@cameronschmit6472yeah because they pay the most money. You beat all the other teams of the NATIONAL basketball league, not the world… 🙄
@@cameronschmit6472in football, the UEFA champions league (which is way bigger than the nba) calls its winner “champions of europe”.
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Only americans are delusional enough to call themselves ‘world champs’ after winning a national league 😂
@@MattEffect so you agree that the best talent from all over the world plays in the NBA?
FIBA is a sham tournament. Let's not even talk about the americans sending their C team. Even european stars like jokic skip FIBA because they know its a joke.
@@welsonma3911 All the best soccer players are in the champions league. And it is 10 times bigger than the NBA and yet the teams there don't call themselves "world champions". They call themselves "European champions". They only consider themselves world champions when they win the world tournament that is played by teams from all over the world.
English is Giannis’ second language and *he* understands this perfectly.
Man Giannis always speaking facts
Go read the full definition of the word world them come back and apologize for your disrespectful comment after you educate yourself.
@@port80764 haahahah bot comment
This is NOT Rocket Science. There’s no debate other than from some Americans. It’s the same with the MLB and the “World Series”, which only includes ONE other Canadian Team to an other wise all-American composition.
And they lost to Japan which was mainly composed of player playing in Japan, showing that they are indeed not World Champions
Americans? There is another one .... I think you mean USAians? There are othw countries in the Americas. Luke Canada, Mexico, Brazil ...
It's like that pageant called 'Miss Universe' but all the contestants were all from Earth.
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😂👏🏽👏🏽..
never think about this, but now you said it, it's kinda true 😂😂😂😂😂😂
American bubble is real😂😂😂
Go read the full definition of the word world them come back and apologize for your disrespectful comment after you educate yourself.
@@port80764 an American who educates someone I would never have believed it
@@port80764in the duden it doesn‘t say world = usa. But considering the education in america it isnt a surpise to me
@@monsi852 2. a particular region or group of countries.
"the English-speaking world"
Like the American Basketball world you know?
And by the definition some dumb people trying trying cage Americans in we wouldn't even be even able to say Champions of the U.S. cause there are Canadian teams
Dummy.
😂😂😂@@samsk9350
How is this even up for debate? This is the tragicomic state of the education level of average US-citizens?
Go read the full definition of the word world them come back and apologize for your disrespectful comment after you educate yourself.
Si si son una risa en tema de educacion.... incluso si les preguntas la capital de una nacion jajajaj
since 1776
@@jonpon-r6w yeah and you to dumb and arrogant to go read the full definition of the word to know it's not a problem with the ways it's being used
17 out of 20 's. World Champion of the olympics. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
One thing I noticed is that only Americans are salty with the statement
exactly, 💯
It’s so true!!! Since when a NATIONAL league gives you the right to call yourself WORLD champions? That’s so arrogant! Yes, you may have the best teams, but to call yourself World champions you have to beat the world. This is what makes USA look so arrogant to the rest of the world. Besides, take a look at the results of the basketball “World Cup”. How has the USA performed on those lately? What happened in the baseball “World Cup”? Regardless, Noah Lyles is right. Stop being so arrogant. It’s the NBA championship, not the world championship!
USA lost to Germany right after that statement😂
Go read the full definition of the word world them come back and apologize for your disrespectful comment after you educate yourself.
@@vidulgoenka9670 usa b team
@@Chänëlly4L, doesn't matter. They lost simple as that. They should've taken it more seriously.
@@kesenaememere8520exactly lol. If you want thwt tutle win.
Granted USA is most likely gona win olympics by the look of it rn. Even so its not the curent NBA winers going for that olympic gold but national team.
Lyles stated the obvious. That's all.
Just the fact that the concept must be explained to Americans, says everything
in third grade i was first throwing a ball the furthest making me best in my grade. hence i was world champion. actually i still cause why not only deny the concept of space but time as well? now gimme dem meds
And you had many cultures there, right? You were world champion
Go read the full definition of the word world them come back and apologize for your disrespectful comment after you educate yourself.
Very very true.
Go read the full definition of the word world them come back and apologize for your disrespectful comment after you educate yourself.
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by definition a world championship is a competition between countries' teams from all over the world or individual athletes representing their countries. You cannot be world champion if you're not representing your country and playing against other countries. The NBA is a domestic league (it has national in its name) so even if it's the best league in the world their winner will never be world champion. Every big leagues in every sports have international players, it doesn't change anything. In Football the British Premier league has some of the best players from over 100 countries (way more than international players in the NBA), same for the Spanish league, and NO ONE would dare to call the winners world champions.
Same with the Olympics, if you win gold you're Olympic champion, NOT world champion.
Common american ignorance to call anything coming from the US as being the best
Not exactly. Just as there are world championships between national teams, each representing their own country, there are also world championships at club level. But to do that, you have to face the best clubs from the world's leagues in an open competition. This is the case in soccer. For example: the UEFA Champions League determines the best club in Europe, while the Copa Libertadores determines the champion from South America. And so there are these club championships for every region, including Asia and so on. In the end, the FIFA Club World Cup determines the world champion in the tournament of the respective club champions of all these regions. But since the NBA is a closed league and its champion does not participate in an open championship with the rest of the world, it simply defines the national champion of the US. Nothing more.
@@AlexReusch You write a lot but say nothing. You speak like a conman.
I’m sorry but this is a late comment. May I just ask where did you get your definition of “WORLD CHAMPION”? I think you may have missed the exact definition of those terms. Try to google it.
@@AlexReuschcouldn’t have said it any better 🤝
I disagree 1 thing is that, Olympic is played by all the world countries, so whomever wins it is a World Champion.
Giannis is clearly the only learned person in the nba
You mean educated?
@@narutolover1098Definition “learned”: “A learned person has studied for a long time and has a lot of knowledge”
- Cambridge
The word exists, he used the term properly.
Jokic and Luca are not stupid either and don't forget Jaylen Brown.
@@Elu_ahah thank you
I don't understand why people don't understand this, or why they were even arguing against it in the first place. If basketball players want to be called World Champions, then go out and win your designated World Championship tournament. In basketball, that's the FIBA World Cup. If you don’t find the title of "World Champion" to be important enough to participate in the World Championship tournament, then that’s on you. Note that soccer players enter the FIFA World Cup so that they can be called "World Champions" if they win, because that's important to them.
You can be the greatest sprinter sitting on your couch watching the World Championships saying “I could win that if I was there,” but if you’re not actually there to do it, then that’s on you, and you don’t get the title of being called “World champion." Noah Lyles was already a World Champion, now he's an Olympic Gold Medalist.
South Koreans have archery competitions, they are clearly the best in the world, but they don't get to be called "World Champions" unless they actually go participate in their designated World Championship tournaments and win. They don't call themselves "World Champions" just for winning a National Tournament, even though it's the strongest competition, because it's a NATIONAL tournament.
However, basketball doesn't have any global club-level competition, and we all know that the NBA champion would be the world champion if such a competition existed.
@@adolfpereira3313 There's no global club level competition for soccer either, and World Champion has always been viewed as a champion representing a country since long before basketball and baseball, until America came along with this, so it just says more about the arrogance of America and Americans, as Giannis pointed out. And I say this as an American.
@@back2back379there’s a FIFA club World Cup. - winners of continental competitions participate.
@@cantripleplays Until basketball decides to have the same thing, there is nothing like that for basketball, so the FIBA World Cup is where you can get the title of World Champion.
It’s just common sense why are they arguing
They just want there sports to be the biggest in the world lol they so delusional
A national competition can only result in a national champion ... not a world champion
Ego do americano é enorme
See notice how Americans take it personally but when a Greek player hears this a big star mvp he says the truth. Americans literally have so much bias and giannis just spoke facts
The small children playing at being professional basketball players were throwing a tantrum, when somebody explained to them, that being the NBA champion does not make you a world champion.
That’s just plain logic, only dumb people are mad about this
Wich is logical
Is it national basketball association or international basketball association !!! 😂😂
Agree, an American thing. Live on Sweden and this was weird to me when I was playing in the early 90s. But that was typical American at the time.
Can’t argue with logic
World Series (Baseball) but Japan is actually the world champion beating the US.
With players that play in the mlb lol
As Shohei Ohtani plays in the USA 😂🙄
@@Aidanbradford0 What difference does that make? Does that mean USA are still world champs? Damn, you folks are as delusional as they get...
@@Puregodds no dumb ass it means the mlb is harder which makes the World Series matters more than the Olympics 😂
@@Aidanbradford0 you do know Japan has its own league right? and those Mlb" players started in that japanese league before going for more pay in the mlb. Japan showed that thier league is strongest than mlb with 3 world baseball classic WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS. That is the real WORLD SERIES. It also says japan may have better genetics to play baseball than the americans.
MLB is more pay, hype and advertisement just like the rest of the american big 4. those things do not create a better league,team or players.
Finally Some one in the nba with sense... He grew up in Europe so he gets it. Even used the futbol example.The others saying otherwise must be on that Tusi at a Diddy party.... lol
people just need to understand, that doesnt take away any glory from winning the nba. its still the hardest title to obtain in basketball.
The real world champions of basketball are the Olympics winners and winners of the basketball world cup (which right now is Germany)
1st grade geography is way too deep for jocks and marketers…..
Go read the full definition of the word world them come back and apologize for your disrespectful comment after you educate yourself.
@@port80764
Pssssst…..hey trumbie, the world consists of way, way more than amerkkka.
Now You Know
@@olyokie these are some of the definitions of the word world: denoting one of the most important people or things of their class. a particular region or group of countries. a particular group of living things. "the animal world". Just because you people have a limited understanding of the English lexicon don't try to force your limitations on everybody else. Because the use of the word world to describe NBA Champs is not being used out of it's definition. Atleast don't be arrogant enough to attack other people like you know something that you know before you educate yourself atleast. Like you all are claiming Americans are
@@port80764 I might not be a smartass like you but that was arrogant asf I hope u enjoy ur well frog 🐸
@@port80764 World Cup football - 5 Billion Viewers
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UEFA Champions League Final - 450 Million Viewers
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By your logic the champions league winners should also be called the champions of the world but they are not so arrogant and remain grounded nba has like 20 30% foreign players playing but the premier league has about 60% , why don’t u apologize to the world instead
Truth
maybe the dream team is becoming a dream only a dream nowadays
MLB world series should adjust name to MLB Finals and leave it at that. Same with NBA. It's the finals. And they are NBA champs or MLB champs.
By american logic, if the USA Mens Basketball team wins olympic gold, they will automatically be world champions too
Ok but how do you become world champion then if not at the Olympics?
@@templetonbob Okay, let's break it down. If you win the NBA Championship, you become NBA champion. If you win the Olympics you become Olympic Champion. If you win the FIBA Basketball World Cup, you become world champion. If you win the Euro Leauge, you become Euro League champion. If you win your own little fun family thanksgiving basketball tournament, you become champion of the little fun family thanksgiving tournament.
To become champion of something, you must simply win the according championship.
@@lassevad7101 I don’t think the World Cup or the Olympics are much different. The world competes at both events. However, the Olympics are generally composed of higher caliber teams since better players are more likely to compete. You’re kind of missing the point of the original argument. It has to do with who competes, not the name of the event.
@@templetonbob It doesn't matter what you think about the olympic or world cup level. It's not about that. It's about facts. And the fact remains: It has everything to do with the name of the event - that's the whole point. It does not matter, if you are better than everyone else... that alone doesn't make you champion. A champion is the winner of a championship. Now, being the BEST team in the world, is certainly something you could call the NBA or Olympic winners. But world champions... no.
You MUST, by definition, win the championship to be the champion. Period.
@@lassevad7101 You are missing Lyle’s original point entirely and playing semantics.
united states are living in their own world, Calling their league as "world champion" and calling their country as "america" 😂
Wow I can't believe this was even a conversation. A national league giving up world titles ??? R u serious ???
I beat my friend at tennis
I am now A WORLD CHAMPION
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Giannis is right, the NBA represent America not the entire world so when you win the NBA championship you are the champions of the NBA not the world, just like the Stanley cup champions are champions of the NHL not the world champions. this is not a difficult concept to understand pretty simple.
But if you win the World Series then you are world champion.
not America, just the United States
DOES Giannis all of sudden becomes an American cuz he is playing in the NBA? Why does Embiid an NBA player needed to change his citizenship to be able to play for the United States if the NBA is truly a representative of America. Would they allow Gianni’s to represent THE United States without changing his citizenship because NBA represents America?
Allowing INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS TO PLAY in the NBA truly changed its nature as an international competition. Its name and the names of the teams may not reflect its international nature but those international players changed it. It would have been purely domestic if no international player would have been allowed to play unless they change their citizenship.
Jokic the current nba MVP is Serbian and he does not represent the United States at all. He’s A Serbian NBA MVP.
THE NBA may therefore be allowed to call itself a world champion cuz almost 40 countries were being represented by the greatest players from all over the world.
, doesn't matter. You need to beat from other nations across the globe to become world champions.
@@fbaraky660 America is anther name for the United States of America???
How about MLB's World Series?
You can only be the world champions if you compete against the rest of the world! it's obvious and Noah Lyles is right.
Well now we the world CHAMPS
Still no
Olympics gold doesnt mean u are world champs
U have to win the world cup to become world champions
Thats why olympic record and world record are seperate
@@nilaaplayzyt nobody gives a fuck about the fiba world cup besides small ass teams that dont do shit in the olympics
Even when all the critics finally get the point, they won't admit it... and that's exactly the problem with America right now
Go read the full definition of the word world them come back and apologize for your disrespectful comment after you educate yourself.
Don't argue with a fool. He drags you down to his level and beats you with experience.
@@branc2658 yeah you the fool that don't know the complete definition and use of the word world.
@@port80764u are exactly the person original post was referring to lol
@@itsyoboiasu1441 go read the definition of the word world and it's proper usage and then come have this conversation with me after you educate yourself. If not don't waste my time arguing your ignorance. And don't make any other argument with me that's not based on the proper definition and usage of the word world.
From someone who knows.
Funny that this is even up for debate. And I know what I am talking about: I am world champion in all sports and disciplines in competitions made up by me in which I am the only contender. That being said, the NBA is indeed the best basketball league, nobody's contesting that.
But even the winner of the FIFA World Cup is NOT normally referred to as the World Champion. Usually the team is referred to as the WORLD CUP CHAMPION.
no, world cup winners are world champion. nobody says " world cup champion" . its world champion or world cup winner
what? they are definitely called world champs lmao
american exceptionalism
NBA has the best players in the “world”
Okay, let’s to be clear, most of national teams only pick players from the nation, but NBA teams are picking players from the world, which have the better pick range and NBA pay way more. Which one do you think that will harder to win
that's an illogical fallacy... plucking players from other leagues and paying them more does not make your league stronger. Case in point are the Japanese league in baseball. they won the most baseball classics and produce better players with ohtani dominating mlb.
@@NewEarthSon paying more attracts more people
@@letmeout1 It attracts more people but it does not mean it makes the league your taking from weak. The pipeline of talent could be so strong in the league thats getting pouched that its negligible. the other side exist as well were it becomes a farmers league.
Thats why you have to play the games between other leagues to find that out and also play national games. than after that you can quantify the numbers by calculating certain metrics to find out which league is stronger and which is weaker.
Thats what FIFA Does. thats why you always here english premier league is the strongest futbol league in the world but the 2nd best la liga has the top 2 teams real madrid and barcelona beat the premier league in games.
what I mean by metrics for basket ball would be the traditional stats like points rebounds assist, etc but also the rate these are occurring.
than after the measure who wins more when facing each other in tournaments....
and by how much in order to better quantify the numbers
the number guys will crunch things up and they will come with a number and rank each league.
More money does not mean better
@@NewEarthSon and its longer season, bigger sample will decrease more luck and get more chance to prove what they got.
@@NewEarthSon for soccer, there are a lot of huge tournaments, but for basketball, NBA is the only one stand out from all tournaments in the world
Think about it. NBA is better than the world so why would you want to even use the lesser word just say NBA champs.
These people agreeing with this Greek freak don't even know the definition of the word world.
Think about it. The Champions League is the best Football/Soccer league and is better than the world. So why would they still call the champion of Europe, not the world champion?
@@port80764The word „world“ primarily regards: “the earth and all the people, places, and things on it”. The meaning you’re referring to, that it also can be a local meaning is just a secondary definition. The primary one is about the whole earth and that’s what people usually associate with this term. It isn’t ignorant to use the more common definition, in fact it’s the opposite. It’s ignorant to expect that people associate a word with a definition that is less used.
@@EdisonJay9899according to yall stupid europeans logic it ahould be UEFA Champions League Winners, not "the best in europe"
48 mins discussing about what ?
What to call the champions of international and nation wide league competition.
lol. This is the way the rest of the world feels about the titles the US gives themselves. Unaware of anything that happens outside their borders
He’s a fine person to be talking shit…….although I agree with that statement.
They can not define woman how can they define world
😂😂😂😂😂
best comment ever hahahaha
Unortunately Argentina didn't win the world cup in 2006, or Manu would have been the only player in history winning Euroleague, NBA, Olympics and WC
I’m grateful for Noah for firing up USA Basketball. Once they win the Gold at the 2024 Olympics they can claim they are world champions…again. Hats off to Serbia as reigning world champions for putting up a good fight.
He didn’t have to come off cocky and sound like a duck about it tho I think is what made people upset cause he did come off pretty cocky 😂 like bruh no one knows you like that calm down
Well, you certainly know him, same as pretty much every NBA player. The World champion of the 100m is usually pretty well-known even without making such a comment. He is known, no one knows YOU.
@@Elu_ahahu glazing a monkey who paints nails and uses Covid as a excuse after losing. He doesn’t KNOW U🤣🤣 defending him like u know him. Ur a weirdo💀🤣🤣
That’s why the US is World Champions!!!!!!
Nope. Current olympic champs. World champs are Germany
no youre not world champions they are USA champions
Bro is right, NBA champions=NBA champions, not world champions
champs for us in the philippines are hamburgers
Facts americans say soccer when its FOOTBALL they really should look up which word is in FIFA .by calling your sport american football they have proven this point and then contradicted they own self
Have the FIBA Champs play the NBA Champs and have that be the decider
Thanasis is the world champion 🐐
Thanks for consolidating all of the delusional bleacher coaches
What a difference education level exposure here.
The European guy much better
Go read the full definition of the word world them come back and apologize for your disrespectful comment after you educate yourself.
Nowadays you have to explain the obvious and talk with examples for the obvious....
I know. It is frustrating explaining the obvious to ignorant people 😊
17 out of 20 🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇's. World Champion of the olympics. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Team USA and Boston Celtics are different teams
WInning NBA win the world?? World champion my ass. 😂
How about ufc heavyweight champion of the world
World Champions of what? The united states 😂
Domestic league, doesn't count. No american or any other country's domestic league champion gets to call themselves the world champion. Olympics also do not count. Win the WORLD CUP for the title. No semantics or hairsplitting about that. And when it comes to clubs, there are Club World Championships. For example basketball has the FIBA Intercontinental Cup. Congrats to Sesi Franca 🇧🇷 by the way, they are the Club World Champions as of right now
if you still disagree, you're an entitled american or actually in need of mental assictance. Same thing really 🤷♂
@@grostoss4259 something tells me a high schooler would get cooked by Mike James 💀
Then I guess Major League Baseball needs to downgrade from “World Series?” I wholeheartedly understand Noah’s point, but when the best from all over the world play in the nba, then I can understand why it’s called “world championship!”
No.... Japan league produce baseball players that won 3 baseball world classics and also a player in othani thats dominating your mlb league. To be world champion you have to play other country domestic league champions clubs and the same on the national side.
You are parroting what others have said instead of analyzing it for yourself.
That is the problem with followers.
They allow people to think for them.
It is ridiculous that this is being discussed.
That is America for you.😅
Cos he’s not American raised as a main character
umm ,world series?
When you put the NBA next to any other basketball league there’s just no competition.
Players try to play in the NBA not NBA players trying to play internationally or G league. Money talks. deal with it.
Real madrid wins Spanish leauge and is called American champions!! Americans be like; Yeahhh!
Thats right Giannis your no world champion you gone before the medal games 😂
Bucks comin outta the East next year I promise
The term World Champion was always used in US professional sports. It wasn’t to diminish any other country. Although, the Olympics r special, for most of the sports the US sent amateurs back in the day. Now there r so many sports leagues and world competitions all over the world. So the US should remove World Champions from the professional leagues.
I do not like that thumbnail of Giannis
The best players in the world play in the NBA. The NBA is compromised of players from all over the world. I think world champs is reasonable.
It doesn’t work like that
world champ, defining gender, what else ....
Naming 3 European countries: London Paris Africa...
Delulu... 😂🤣
Italy won the world cup 2006 👀
Oh my God are we still talking about this.
Are people going to stop saying World Series or world championship. They have been saying this for decades.
If it hurts your feelings then that’s up to you!
How many genders there are?...in the states still fighting for the genders..
😂
Sounds like you're the only one who's hurt, just saying
These people in making this dumb argument don't even understand the full definition of the word world.
Giannis needs to sit down and figure out his own situation. He wasnt Team Noah when he was still thinking he was getting another ring.
Im not american but i disagree with Noah show me a better league than the NBA and shit they started the sport.
Show me a better league than the Premier League and shit England started the sport
We still manage not to call the winners the world champions
Y'all got your chance...they beat everybody by 20+ plus points diff without breaking a sweat..the Olympics showed again they are in a league of their own
congrats they lost to germany at the actual world cup lmao
@@jaysosaaa7975 Yeah ..with the third team
@@enzofrancescoli1260 Then send a better team smh lmaoooo
@@jekufolmao germany lost to USA and USA won Gold I guess Germany should send better team right?🤣🤣
@@jekufosilly anime weirdo can’t even make a proper argument.
U cannot compare football with basketball, winning NBA u gona be world champion bcuz their is no other teams around the world better than the united states NBA team , Noah is just a rude guy period 😊
Delusional NBA guy's lol
Go read the full definition of the word world them come back and apologize for your disrespectful comment after you educate yourself.
@@port80764 World can be part of a region, correct as the US is of the world. However, how it is used in sport is not that wat, so maybe you should go educate yourself. It is out of respect for other nations why it should be called American champions. The best football players in the world play in Europe and the winner of the Champions League is defined the club champions of Europe not the world. This winner then plays in the FIFA Club World Cup against the winners from other continents.
@@Deomnibusdubitandum274
denoting one of the most important people or things of their class.
modifier noun: world
"a world superstar"
Fits that definition because it's definitely the most important league in the world because if not the top players from around the world would not aspire to play in the NBA they way they do.
2.a particular region or group of countries
Fits that definition because it's a particular region or group of countries the U.S and Canadian teams.
all that relates to a particular sphere of activity.
"they were a legend in the world of British theatre"
Notice the example given for this last definition uses the word world to refer strictly to British theatre.
16 of 19 gold 🥇
16 of 19 gold 🥇
☝🏿☝🏻 That's the real reason behind all the hate. 🤷🏿♂️ You can't beat find some other dumb reason to hate on them. Just be lucky African Americans don't like soccer cause if they did you the U.S would take all those medals too.
@@port80764 You just repeated the definition I stated with more words. Definitions change all the time, it is how its applied and sued within its environment that is important. The problem with using the 2a definition here is that it excludes other regions that also play the sport. Whether you believe you are the best or not is subjective.
I have no doubt that the US Baskbetall team or club teams would win on the world stage, but until it happens you can't round saying it.
Ha, considering an African nation has never won the world cup this doesn't make sense. The best players in the world are a mix of races. The best players in the world over the past 20 years have been those who aren't black (Messi and Ronaldo) so your point is again poor. Many black people play Football as do other races and you could name as many top white players as black.
@@Deomnibusdubitandum274 Yeah many black people play sports but most African countries are under developed and don't have access to training facilities and clubs like most European and American players have all their life. If that was the case I don't think European or American countries full of African players would win as often as they do. And I don't think you really read the definitions to keep sitting arguing with me that America or any other place in the world has the right to use world in their championship name. And what are you talking about you don't have doubt they would win but until they do. The U.S. has taken home the gold medal in the Olympics close to 85 percent of the time. What are you talking about until it happens. It happens almost every Olympics.
Well he ain't going to be calling himself a world champion for the next year either
Giannis is huge player. As also a Greek i admire him and i am proud of him!!!! But he is not a player that can thrive in Euroleague as in NBA. Here the defences are cruel. 95% of defencive fouls are not given a foul. Last European champion he played was tough for him and for Greece. cause all teams knows how to play against an NBa player. That is why very few NBA stars was succefully while transitioning to Euroleague. In Europe every games matters plus you must play in a really pationate hell like hostiles arenas in away matches. His brother is straggling to get a place in his Euroleauge team. Within 2 years he will be top. But not now
What bullshit! Luka Doncic dominated euro league as a 19 year old and became it's youngest MVP. He has yet to achieve MVP or win something in the NBA. NBA is greater than Euro league.
Giannis has lived in America for over a decade and he still can’t speak English properly
Yannis 8s dour grapping. You are no match for the oher European Team that why you go home early.
World series? You people are confusing the definition of Earth and World. This is one of the definitions of the word world. "A particular region or group of countries". Another." All that relates to a particular sphere of activity." Another. "denoting one of the most important people or things of their class". If the nba didnt fit this definition him and alot of people like him wouldnt have so much aspirations to play in the nba. And these two men sitting here agreeing with him probably have zero problem when baseball has the world series every year. And its funny how much hate is directed at American basketball players for the dominance that they have in the sport. Even alot of American people of European descent are so jealous hearted of the dominance that American basketball players have in the sport its starting to seem like to me for some people its a racial thing. I understand why foriegners would naturally feel some sort of jealousy bseeing that type of dominance but hey look on the bright side atleast African Americans are not interested in soccer. But i dont understand why so many Americans participate in this hate. Why get your panties in a bunch over a word? Especially when the use of the word world is not even being used improperly if you know what the definition of the word world really encompasses you would know there is absolutely no problem with the eay the word is bring used by the nba. Another thing i noticed so many people making these comments about how the world is catching up finally with American basketball. American people at that too. But watching the u17 team this year completely dominating the rest of the world like its never been done before breaking record after record. Im thinking where is this coming from?