Big thanks to Trevor for taking the time to sit down and talk with me! My goal is to unite the community and meet as many people as possible. I also had a more impromptu interview with Dell Schanze as well. We’ll get the interview with Him up Thursday.
Love to see you taking more command with flat top Trevor. The flat top is a great motor and deffinately the best choice for safety at the moment. I fly a parajet but im sure a hard smack on the ground would leave me wishing for some crumple zone. Hopefully Dell isnt too upset with your critiques. Would love to fly with you guys one day. Might even need to borrow a flat top and a dominator to get the full expirience🤙🤙🤙 Blue Skies
I appreciated your selection of words in your opinions of equipment, training, and personalities while still holding true to your family and brand. Well done sir!
Aww this is a great interview and honestly goes a long way towards healing a massive rift in the paramotor community which exists. And its not all Dell against the world, I was parked over near the Flattop crew and they would regularly get pilots flying by yelling out nasty shit at him and his kids. That's not cool and the group attack on them needs to settle down as well. Trevor wants to get along with everyone, the community needs to extend them the same respect regardless of what you think of the gear. The hate has to stop.
That's a shame, don't get me wrong, I've had a few choice words for Dell before, and personally, the gear isn't for me, but screaming obscenities at his kids is downright pathetic. Hoping this can start a new chapter of understanding for the community.
I honestly didn't think anyone could do it, but with one interview you are actually healing this terrible wound we all have after years of watching Dell rant and rave like a lunatic. It was never so much about the Falt top design or the Dominator design, it was the stigma of being attached to Dell. Trevor seems like a cool and reasonable guy, this is exactly what we need in the sport.
What you call rant and rave comes from your dislike. As I have always said, Dell's focus is on safety for NEW PEOPLE to the sport. The vast amount of people that get trained never stay with the sport. I have not personally heard Dell talk about experienced pilots or what they fly. He is quite outspoken when it comes to students and putting them on gear that is barely safe for pros. Pro's die on those wings all the time.Bottom line if you are new and safety is your top concern get real training. Regulations and ground school are things you can learn from a book, video and other people. Paying for that isn't a priority. Paying for skill that WILL save your life is money well spent. Many of Dell's detractors are scammers. Then you you have the majority that just parrot them and have never met or even really know his philosophy talking out their ass.
So many golden moments in this interview, Trevor looks at Ross like "don't attack me" when he walks by.. lol.. but in all seriousness I'm glad Trevor is bringing super training out of Dells chitty shadow. Awesome job judson 🤘👏👏
Mr Judson Graham, you've just earn my subscription with this interview. I've been waiting for a lifetime for someone to actually speak with and try to understand the Flattop school reps instead of bashing or avoiding them. It's about time to turn a new chapter in the sport. #JusdonForPresident 2024?🤔🤷
Thank you guys for working together for a better and friendlier community. I think we still have some long way to go, but nothing would be more beautiful than seeing the FT-people and not-FT-people cruise through the sky together!:)
@@12vibaba FT = Flat Top😀; used as a generalisation to differentiate between pro-Dell / FT / Dominator and anti-Dell / FT / Dominator section. And hopefully one day, we do not need to differentiate here anymore.
Cheers for that Judson and do you know what I think I have a new found respect for trevor after that interview. Was definitely not what I was expecting and I was pleasantly suprised by his attitude in general. Not at all dismissive of other wings and motors and literally said it how it is which is right. He was even honest and open about Dell. Seems like a decent guy to be fair. Did you try the dominator ? I didnt realise it was an A rated wing
The last part the interview reminds me of what I realized when I went through training. I learned that Dell really is a down to earth guy. I met Trevor on my second go around and been super helpful and patient when helping me setting up and getting my rig. He and Dell both would take the time to answer my many questions. Great interview.
This was the interview I’ve been wanting to see happen for a long time and now that it has happened I’m not disappointed at all. I appreciate Trevor for allowing another perspective and Judson for a great interview!
Great interview Judson, I have been following Trevor for a while now and he is a awesome pilot and has a very entertaining style about him keep rockin Trev.
This was a great introduction to Trevor and helped get a better understanding of the relationship with Super Training / Trevor / Dell. Thanks for doing that.
Very nice interview Judson. Well segmented, professional. Trevor does need the break from his rut, and is well spoken. I think he is an asset to the sport.
FlatTop was the first paramotor I ever saw back in 2012 that caught my interest, I welcome the positive comeback to market/community with REAL insight in a proper business model. Trevor will guide this company to success and respect
I am going to say that this video will go down as some of the most influential content to alleviate the friction that this so extraordinarily covers. Trevor is a level headed, intelligent accomplished spokesperson for FT. His direction for the company is novel and genuine. Best of luck to Trevor, FT and Super Training. Everything he said made perfect logical sense, and he should be the new face of FT/ST. We all love this awesome sport with a passion, and life is way too short to disrespect & hate...... Judson, can you get Tucker, with his following, to link to or share this somehow.
Nice interview, thanks Judson. Trevor helped teach me how to fly. I went through the Super Training in November 2021. And Dell is cool, just super amped.
If you just be nice don't warn people of what you know is wrong, and don't warn to stay away from danger and just love everybody it will all be good. That is exactly what has gotten so many killed and hurt. It has been allowed to go on because not enough are speaking out and it is so easy to deride those that do. Kinda sounds like the whole damn country anymore. Fact, there is good and evil which equates to right and wrong.
Glad to hear their making changes wish they would have done that 7 years ago when I was there. If it wasn't for Trevor and Boyd I would have hated training. I always liked Trevor. His Dad was a Green Beret and his Mom's a Dr. pretty good stock I'd say.
Very nice interview. I went through Super training many years ago. I learned a lot. I had training before and there was a lot of ground school. Laws, weather, and preflight and post flight instruction. Dell didn't cover much of that at the time. Unfortunately, we had a lot of rain and high winds during my time in San Diego and Mexico. Still I learned a lot of kiting skills and gained confidence. I own a flat top, but I just ordered an electric paramotor. 140. I have been waiting for electrics to come. I am older, just want to fly . Not a daredevil or stunt flying. Safety is, and should be always priority. Plus, as you get older you don't bounce as well. If I can just fly 30 or 40 minutes with less noise, vibration and exhaust smells, I'll enjoy it so much.
@@razorsharpbt124 It was long ago. At that time, I believe it was pretty quick. Most people can't work with Dell very long. These days I have no idea who is running the show.
@@davidh7636Yes, I ordered the training and equipment package from FT 7 months ago and I still have not received my paramotor. FT won't provide me a shipping date and say they won't cancel nor refund the order. I seriously regret doing business with FT. It's been a terrible experience. I feel as though I've been misled and taken advantage of.
That is awesome Judson. I just messaged Trevor the other day letting him know we appreciate him changing the energy from they're camp. He truly is a breath of fresh air. Good interview man. Oh, get a better chair😂 Good interview and "good content". Jerry
Hey...those were my chairs! And I was most certainly definitely absolutely NOT about to throw them away before I realized they would be great to bring down to the Salton Sea.
@@mmcowan HAHAHAHA Oh-oh, Sorry Matt. I was thinking that after that Judson borrowed them , lol. I had to smile because Judson kinda sank out of sight in his and had to keep getting comfy. (: Oh, Have the same chairs lol
@@jerrydelyea5820 , it's all funny dude. I seriously was about to throw away the one Judson is sitting in. You can see how the left arm rest is ripped off and he sags low in the seat. The one Trevor is in is new and awesome, which is why he's towering over Judson. 🙂
I have to agree with the previous comment by Mark Allen. Trevor is a very good rep of the Dell School. I was pleased to hear they are becoming more grounded in training and not over the top all the time. Great interview Judson!
dell's biggest flaw is his personality. No one should doubt he is a great pilot. His personality and negativity/hard headedness really is a thorn in the side of the sport.
I went through two super dell training sessions , I though dell did great everyday with everyone ! I think people are way to sensitive and get their panties twisted! When your as passionate as Dell for a biz that you created you kinda get to speak your mind against stupid shit or faults of other methods or equipment ! Take everything in perspective ! Not too many people have accomplished as much with so many . I found Dell to great dad and very professional !
@@craigson153 No, but he was one of the first and seen it needed safer better equipment. Many just don't want to spend the money to change design or methods. Talking shit and demonizing Dell is way cheaper.
I’d like to see these two fly in Trevor’s home base canyons on their weapons of choice. Just some stunning mountain ranges, open fields and a picturesque lake. BOTH excellent, experienced pilots - even if Judson has only been flying a few years. He’s a fast learner and killing the game.
14:11 is WAY to damn short for this video!! I was watching the progression bar as this video played and actually got super anxious that this video was about to end, just wanted more for sure. Judson has found the missing link for unity in this sport, both of these guys are super cool, bridging this gap will help this sport grow leaps and bounds. Trevor, your going to take this company to the next level, Judson, you ARE the next level. Great video.
I am kinda bummed we left before getting a chance to go say hi. It was Dell and his Flattop videos that first introduced me to paramotors some 10-12 years ago. After quickly catching on to his M.O. I went with a different school. If Trevor is the new face however then I’d gladly stop by for a visit. Looking foreword to the Dell interview!
Judson. Absolute golden interview. Loved the whole thing, but what struck me was the technical knowledge you 2 have and how much benefit people would get from you doing these types of interviews to talk about different PPG subjects more often. Wings, motors, companies, harnesses, set up, safety, etc etc. The subject options are endless and I think it could be a real boost to your channel, and something that really isn't out there. You have a wealth of experience, skill, contacts etc and on top of that you're relatable and fun. You should have 400k subs, seriously.
Great job, hope you don’t catch a lot of flak over it. Truthfully, as someone with some GA experience, I think if the FAA certified paramotors, most of them would look like the flat top or sky tap. Thanks for posting.
That’s my goal. It’s such a small community, and at the end of the day, we’re all running into the sky with a piece of fabric and a fan. It’s all being taken way too seriously. Fly safe and have fun
@@JudsonGraham And if you tell the unvarnished truth you will get the same response as they gave Dell. He was one of the first in the sport. He is the only one I know that puts safety above everything. A little performance sacrificed on the alter of safety is a very good thing. Pilots that stick with the sport and live buy way more stuff then the ones that die. So many lose that reasoning on the quick buck because they are there to get in and out. It's about the money not you.
I don't fly but I've been thinking about getting into paramotoring for years now. Occasionally I'll watch a Dell video. That dude is a lunatic! With that being said, I heard one time he was standing up to a judge for some stranger about our 2nd amendment rights. That was great! Trevor seems like a good dude.
This is good to see! This sport takes a lot of confidence and can create to big egos, with maturity you learn to get along and advance a wonderful sport. It's ok to be different and have opposing opinions with out ridiculing the others.
So it is OK to improperly train people and sell them gear far above their skill? It's OK to not speak out of the perils of equipment? Isn't that what is wrong in this world today, we just blow with the wind for the fad of the moment? Few have standards and lines they don't cross.
Dell is a passionate guy that can be bit abrasive at times, but I still think he is a good guy and means well. This was a much-needed interview with Trevor...I think the sky is the limit for this company with Dell and Trevor with Dell having so much knowledge and Trevor's cool demeanor.
After having done business with him, I would have to disagree. He has been deceptive with me and misled me from the beginning of my relationship with him as a customer. I purchased a paramotor that he knew he couldn't provide and it's been 7 months and I'm still without the equipment I paid for. He will not provide a shipping date and states that he will not cancel my order and refund my money. These dishonest business practices are unconscionable. I regret ever doing business with this outfit. I had no way of knowing it was this bad. Now, I'm out almost $10,000 in gear and I'll have to retrain because it's been so long.
Great interview, Judson! Just want to provide a few factors that (in my opinion) increase safety: 1. Comfort and ease of handling the motor on the ground. If you're struggling with an awkward, heavy frame it's going to steal some of your focus, which can be disastrous in tricky launches. 2. Control. Gooseneck bars are my choice so you have better weightshift authority and thus better control. 3. Newer wing design. Wing safety improves with time, as companies innovate and update their designs. So I'd rather fly a newer design as long as I can find an independent, professional test report on it. I can't seem to find independent test reports on the Dominator wing, so I'd rather put my trust in something like a Mojo or a Spyder which you can look up the test results for and have an idea what to expect in different situations. Just a few thoughts on my preferences for gear. Gear that gets out of your way makes flying less of a hassle, more fun and allows you to focus more.
@@TrevorSteele1 Nope. Haven't seen any here in Finland yet. Each to their own, if you enjoy the gear you have, then you're golden. Fly and enjoy! Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to diss your choices, gear is very personal and these are my preferences and opinions that I feel improve my safety when flying. I respect you for training people and getting more people in the air. Giving the gift of flight is priceless.
Trevor steele is the god damn ghandi, uniting our community to end the hate. This is very topical too, just a couple days ago there was a bunch of hatred towards the flat top in a facebook comment section, Trevor was there as well. It was sad to see such anger.
If you want to enjoy the sport more, stay away from that Facebook page. A lot of people in that group give all of us a bad name. I have to laugh, I said all of us, I’ve never flown a paramotor before but I’ve watched 1000 videos on them from all of you.
I agree with (para ninja.). let's have total respect for all. we all live in a world of chaos ... let's try not to make it even worse. and yelling in front of the children.... it's not cool at all.. it took me a long time to learn respect.... life is too short... lets put out good vibes for all. let's try.... iam no angel. ill rather be good. than bad *
Your awesome man Great idea! you always impressing me with your video content! Love watching your channel. You’ve came a long way from your first flight. Keep up the good work and fly safe 🍻
LOL good luck trying to bust through capt. kirks ego...LOL ...not to say you have any desire to interview him...awesome to finally see some peace talks appear...so many egos in this community it seems. bust out the peace pipes boys! really look forward to the dell interview, this is breakthrough material, I always liked Trevor. Judson I love the way you mingle and interview the PPG community and dont just shine the camera on yourself , salton sea interviews were epic, keep em coming! you and your camera girl got something going here.
My wife and I ordered a Flat Top paramotor April 3, 2023 only to find out later that the Flat Top was no longer in production. He did not tell us at the time of order that they were no longer in production and that he had nothing to sell. He stole almost $10,000 including money for a reserve parachute and shipping costs from us. He states that he will not issue a refund. He is deleting my customer inquiries on his Facebook page and has shadow-banned me on his UA-cam channel. This has been my introduction into this hobby and now I cannot even fly due to this man and his dishonesty. I just want to take the time to let everyone who might be contemplating doing business with this man to beware. I would recommend staying away from him and saving yourselves a lot of money and trouble. I sincerely hope this helps someone out there to avoid what we're going through. Try hard to find someone reputable and do your homework first.
@@wm9782 Yes, and it's worse than that. He's engaging in criminal activity now by defrauding customers. I've heard from others who have been victimized by him as well.
So super proud of you Trevor! Your character, integrity, and humility shine through this interview! I’m proud to be a part of this group! Thank you Judson for encouraging the unity of this sport!!
So,wow ! Dell ,love you man ,super Dells experience and dedication to this sport has pushed everyone's ambition to improve ! I want to fly again ,will need a trike
Plot twist: His dad dragged his name so much he changed his sons last name so when he gave the business to him people did not immediately associate it.
I’ll never forget, the first year I was in the sport (2017), I was commenting on a YT video where a fellow flyer was asking a question on his video about troubleshooting an engine. I shared my experiences i was having to compare notes. Out of absolutely nowhere, Dell comments, attacks me and goes on and on about how I don’t know anything and I’m on unsafe gear and blah blah blah. I’m like, who is this guy?? Here was just two guys sharing notes and this Yahoo inserts himself and goes off. So strange and psychotic. Trevor, if you ever are going to be successful, you’ll need to disassociate yourself from Dell. Until then, you’ll live in his shadow and his stink will infect and negate everything you try to do with this biz.
So you get assed up because your ego gets bruised? You didn't have the ability to listen because of your ego? Weak minds can never build strong anything.
Dell has ruined his product for me but the beautiful aspects of the flat top keeps me curious as to whether its worth buyin the product or not. This CEO is a good salesman. Sadly nobody seems to have a school with multiple types of companies as an option to purchase. Each school takes on their favorite and sell only one type of ppa package.
I ordered a FT paramotor 7 months ago and I still have not received it and FT won't give me a ship date and they say they won't cancel and refund me. I was misled from the beginning and what I've been put through as a customer is unconscionable. This is the most unprofessional company I've done business with. To say I regret doing business with them is a gross understatement. It's been a terrible experience from the beginning.
in his own special magic place where he is on top of the world while we are only monkeys who WILL DIE for sure because we dont buy his 15 year old crap? 😅
@@themaaciek Probably because this video struck a really positive chord and Dell is.....well you know. Do we realy need to see another manic rant that will just muddy the water? I don't think so.
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Big thanks to Trevor for taking the time to sit down and talk with me! My goal is to unite the community and meet as many people as possible. I also had a more impromptu interview with Dell Schanze as well. We’ll get the interview with Him up Thursday.
Appreciate the honesty! Cool interview.👍
no dell?
Where's the Dell interview?
Dell video ?????
@@ppgtraininguk join the patreon
Thank you Judson for the opportunity to be interviewed by you! I enjoyed it and I look forward to flying with you again in the future!
You can borrow my speed bar any time ;)
@@daveltaylor Oh fear not, I have gotten my hands on one and refuse to let anyone touch it around here haha!
Love to see you taking more command with flat top Trevor. The flat top is a great motor and deffinately the best choice for safety at the moment. I fly a parajet but im sure a hard smack on the ground would leave me wishing for some crumple zone. Hopefully Dell isnt too upset with your critiques. Would love to fly with you guys one day. Might even need to borrow a flat top and a dominator to get the full expirience🤙🤙🤙 Blue Skies
I appreciated your selection of words in your opinions of equipment, training, and personalities while still holding true to your family and brand. Well done sir!
@@TrevorSteele1 Thanks for being open minded brotha!!
Aww this is a great interview and honestly goes a long way towards healing a massive rift in the paramotor community which exists. And its not all Dell against the world, I was parked over near the Flattop crew and they would regularly get pilots flying by yelling out nasty shit at him and his kids. That's not cool and the group attack on them needs to settle down as well. Trevor wants to get along with everyone, the community needs to extend them the same respect regardless of what you think of the gear. The hate has to stop.
That's a shame, don't get me wrong, I've had a few choice words for Dell before, and personally, the gear isn't for me, but screaming obscenities at his kids is downright pathetic. Hoping this can start a new chapter of understanding for the community.
I think this interview will go a long way to correcting those issues.
Thanks Judson and Trevor for this.
It has opened my eyes some what.
People that do crazy shit like that are basically just bad people.
I’m impressed by this interview. He’s a great representative for the company and an extremely skilled pilot. Good job Judson and Trevor.
So true hey Mark. I will keep the Canadiana coming to man, (:
I honestly didn't think anyone could do it, but with one interview you are actually healing this terrible wound we all have after years of watching Dell rant and rave like a lunatic. It was never so much about the Falt top design or the Dominator design, it was the stigma of being attached to Dell. Trevor seems like a cool and reasonable guy, this is exactly what we need in the sport.
What you call rant and rave comes from your dislike. As I have always said, Dell's focus is on safety for NEW PEOPLE to the sport. The vast amount of people that get trained never stay with the sport. I have not personally heard Dell talk about experienced pilots or what they fly. He is quite outspoken when it comes to students and putting them on gear that is barely safe for pros. Pro's die on those wings all the time.Bottom line if you are new and safety is your top concern get real training. Regulations and ground school are things you can learn from a book, video and other people. Paying for that isn't a priority. Paying for skill that WILL save your life is money well spent. Many of Dell's detractors are scammers. Then you you have the majority that just parrot them and have never met or even really know his philosophy talking out their ass.
@@richwilson7619 Dell, is that you?!
@@richwilson7619And there is Dell with his pathetic fake accounts again. How sad it must be for you Dell.
So many golden moments in this interview, Trevor looks at Ross like "don't attack me" when he walks by.. lol.. but in all seriousness I'm glad Trevor is bringing super training out of Dells chitty shadow. Awesome job judson 🤘👏👏
Dope. Hes going to bring that company to the next level with that mentality.
Mr Judson Graham, you've just earn my subscription with this interview. I've been waiting for a lifetime for someone to actually speak with and try to understand the Flattop school reps instead of bashing or avoiding them. It's about time to turn a new chapter in the sport. #JusdonForPresident 2024?🤔🤷
Thank you guys for working together for a better and friendlier community. I think we still have some long way to go, but nothing would be more beautiful than seeing the FT-people and not-FT-people cruise through the sky together!:)
FT ??
@@12vibaba FT = Flat Top😀; used as a generalisation to differentiate between pro-Dell / FT / Dominator and anti-Dell / FT / Dominator section. And hopefully one day, we do not need to differentiate here anymore.
Dude if you were at salton sea, everyone was just mobbing in the sky. Nothing but joy.
@@JudsonGraham Sounds really great! Unfortunately, it is quite the trip from Germany to salton sea, so I will not experience it too soon myself!😅
@@LukasKuhelj You are not missing a thing.
Cheers for that Judson and do you know what I think I have a new found respect for trevor after that interview. Was definitely not what I was expecting and I was pleasantly suprised by his attitude in general. Not at all dismissive of other wings and motors and literally said it how it is which is right. He was even honest and open about Dell. Seems like a decent guy to be fair. Did you try the dominator ? I didnt realise it was an A rated wing
He did a very good job of explaining things and bringing a more-or-less neutral look at gear. Very interesting!
The last part the interview reminds me of what I realized when I went through training. I learned that Dell really is a down to earth guy. I met Trevor on my second go around and been super helpful and patient when helping me setting up and getting my rig. He and Dell both would take the time to answer my many questions. Great interview.
Very nicely done Judson!
Trevor is a good guy. I’m glad you both were able to sit down and do this video. 😎👍🏼
This was the interview I’ve been wanting to see happen for a long time and now that it has happened I’m not disappointed at all. I appreciate Trevor for allowing another perspective and Judson for a great interview!
Great interview. I liked what Trevor had to say and like the direction he's taking. Well done.
Great interview Judson, I have been following Trevor for a while now and he is a awesome pilot and has a very entertaining style about him keep rockin Trev.
Great to see honest perspectives of different equipment etc, & not just pushing one specific make/model.
Coming together is paramount these days. I really enjoyed this.
This was a great introduction to Trevor and helped get a better understanding of the relationship with Super Training / Trevor / Dell. Thanks for doing that.
It’s cool you did this interview, getting into this sport I was amazed by the polarization in the industry. Seems like a levelheaded guy.
Very nice interview Judson. Well segmented, professional. Trevor does need the break from his rut, and is well spoken. I think he is an asset to the sport.
FlatTop was the first paramotor I ever saw back in 2012 that caught my interest, I welcome the positive comeback to market/community with REAL insight in a proper business model. Trevor will guide this company to success and respect
I am going to say that this video will go down as some of the most influential content to alleviate the friction that this so extraordinarily covers. Trevor is a level headed, intelligent accomplished spokesperson for FT. His direction for the company is novel and genuine. Best of luck to Trevor, FT and Super Training. Everything he said made perfect logical sense, and he should be the new face of FT/ST. We all love this awesome sport with a passion, and life is way too short to disrespect & hate...... Judson, can you get Tucker, with his following, to link to or share this somehow.
Nice interview, thanks Judson. Trevor helped teach me how to fly. I went through the Super Training in November 2021. And Dell is cool, just super amped.
I think he drinks like 100 refills a day. Lol
Trevor - you just went up a number of rankings of respect In The Paramotor community
If you just be nice don't warn people of what you know is wrong, and don't warn to stay away from danger and just love everybody it will all be good. That is exactly what has gotten so many killed and hurt. It has been allowed to go on because not enough are speaking out and it is so easy to deride those that do. Kinda sounds like the whole damn country anymore. Fact, there is good and evil which equates to right and wrong.
Glad to hear their making changes wish they would have done that 7 years ago when I was there. If it wasn't for Trevor and Boyd I would have hated training. I always liked Trevor. His Dad was a Green Beret and his Mom's a Dr. pretty good stock I'd say.
Great interview man. Trevor seems like a level headed smart dude.
My respect for Trevor and Super training just went up. Well done Judson.
Very nice interview. I went through Super training many years ago. I learned a lot. I had training before and there was a lot of ground school. Laws, weather, and preflight and post flight instruction. Dell didn't cover much of that at the time. Unfortunately, we had a lot of rain and high winds during my time in San Diego and Mexico. Still I learned a lot of kiting skills and gained confidence. I own a flat top, but I just ordered an electric paramotor. 140. I have been waiting for electrics to come. I am older, just want to fly . Not a daredevil or stunt flying. Safety is, and should be always priority. Plus, as you get older you don't bounce as well. If I can just fly 30 or 40 minutes with less noise, vibration and exhaust smells, I'll enjoy it so much.
Do you remember how long it took to get your Flat-Top after you ordered it?
@@razorsharpbt124 It was long ago. At that time, I believe it was pretty quick. Most people can't work with Dell very long. These days I have no idea who is running the show.
@@davidh7636Yes, I ordered the training and equipment package from FT 7 months ago and I still have not received my paramotor. FT won't provide me a shipping date and say they won't cancel nor refund the order. I seriously regret doing business with FT. It's been a terrible experience. I feel as though I've been misled and taken advantage of.
That is awesome Judson. I just messaged Trevor the other day letting him know we appreciate him changing the energy from they're camp. He truly is a breath of fresh air. Good interview man. Oh, get a better chair😂 Good interview and "good content". Jerry
Hey...those were my chairs! And I was most certainly definitely absolutely NOT about to throw them away before I realized they would be great to bring down to the Salton Sea.
@@mmcowan HAHAHAHA Oh-oh, Sorry Matt. I was thinking that after that Judson borrowed them , lol. I had to smile because Judson kinda sank out of sight in his and had to keep getting comfy. (: Oh, Have the same chairs lol
@@jerrydelyea5820 , it's all funny dude. I seriously was about to throw away the one Judson is sitting in. You can see how the left arm rest is ripped off and he sags low in the seat. The one Trevor is in is new and awesome, which is why he's towering over Judson. 🙂
I have to agree with the previous comment by Mark Allen. Trevor is a very good rep of the Dell School. I was pleased to hear they are becoming more grounded in training and not over the top all the time. Great interview Judson!
This was a good interview. Trevor seems level headed.
Excellent interview. I subscribed because I don't want to miss the interview with Dell.
Judson, this is a great interview and I respect Trevor's candor about training, gear, and Dell.
dell's biggest flaw is his personality. No one should doubt he is a great pilot. His personality and negativity/hard headedness really is a thorn in the side of the sport.
I went through two super dell training sessions , I though dell did great everyday with everyone ! I think people are way to sensitive and get their panties twisted! When your as passionate as Dell for a biz that you created you kinda get to speak your mind against stupid shit or faults of other methods or equipment ! Take everything in perspective ! Not too many people have accomplished as much with so many . I found Dell to great dad and very professional !
@@dwaynetempest3433 fell didn't create the business of ppg
@@craigson153 No, but he was one of the first and seen it needed safer better equipment. Many just don't want to spend the money to change design or methods. Talking shit and demonizing Dell is way cheaper.
Good interview. I'm tired of the superdrama and superhate. Good luck to you Trevor, and to all of the FT flyers.
I'm very impressed with this interview!!! Good job! Both of you!!!
Great interview. Nice to see the meanness put aside for honest talk. Justin, do the Capt. Next. :)
I’d like to see these two fly in Trevor’s home base canyons on their weapons of choice. Just some stunning mountain ranges, open fields and a picturesque lake. BOTH excellent, experienced pilots - even if Judson has only been flying a few years. He’s a fast learner and killing the game.
14:11 is WAY to damn short for this video!! I was watching the progression bar as this video played and actually got super anxious that this video was about to end, just wanted more for sure. Judson has found the missing link for unity in this sport, both of these guys are super cool, bridging this gap will help this sport grow leaps and bounds. Trevor, your going to take this company to the next level, Judson, you ARE the next level. Great video.
Why thank you buddy
This is one of the better things I have seen in this sport in.a while as far as how we will be judged by the general public and new pilots
@@JudsonGraham If you are not at 100k+ by the end of 2022, FTW, what the hell are all these other ppl watchin, that "old guy Tucker?" lol.
I am kinda bummed we left before getting a chance to go say hi. It was Dell and his Flattop videos that first introduced me to paramotors some 10-12 years ago. After quickly catching on to his M.O. I went with a different school. If Trevor is the new face however then I’d gladly stop by for a visit. Looking foreword to the Dell interview!
This is gold J-Gramz. It's hard to find perspectives on all the gear out there.
Awesome interview Judson!
Mark from Florida Here. (. Mark's Powered Paragliding Florida ). I love you guys,. Super cool interview ☺️
This makes me feel better about flat top
This guy is way better for flat-top very personable he cokes across well
Where can we find the interview you reference with Dell?
Judson. Absolute golden interview. Loved the whole thing, but what struck me was the technical knowledge you 2 have and how much benefit people would get from you doing these types of interviews to talk about different PPG subjects more often. Wings, motors, companies, harnesses, set up, safety, etc etc. The subject options are endless and I think it could be a real boost to your channel, and something that really isn't out there. You have a wealth of experience, skill, contacts etc and on top of that you're relatable and fun. You should have 400k subs, seriously.
Thank you! I’ll try to get more
Great job, hope you don’t catch a lot of flak over it. Truthfully, as someone with some GA experience, I think if the FAA certified paramotors, most of them would look like the flat top or sky tap. Thanks for posting.
Wow. See this is how we can come together. Give up a little pride and prestige and just enjoy what we have in common 😊🤟🏻
That’s my goal. It’s such a small community, and at the end of the day, we’re all running into the sky with a piece of fabric and a fan. It’s all being taken way too seriously. Fly safe and have fun
@@JudsonGraham And if you tell the unvarnished truth you will get the same response as they gave Dell. He was one of the first in the sport. He is the only one I know that puts safety above everything. A little performance sacrificed on the alter of safety is a very good thing. Pilots that stick with the sport and live buy way more stuff then the ones that die. So many lose that reasoning on the quick buck because they are there to get in and out. It's about the money not you.
I don't fly but I've been thinking about getting into paramotoring for years now. Occasionally I'll watch a Dell video. That dude is a lunatic! With that being said, I heard one time he was standing up to a judge for some stranger about our 2nd amendment rights. That was great! Trevor seems like a good dude.
Love to see two briliant pilots in my most favorite sport ,unity is awesome between you .... :)
Well done, gentlemen. Great interview.
This is good to see! This sport takes a lot of confidence and can create to big egos, with maturity you learn to get along and advance a wonderful sport. It's ok to be different and have opposing opinions with out ridiculing the others.
So it is OK to improperly train people and sell them gear far above their skill? It's OK to not speak out of the perils of equipment? Isn't that what is wrong in this world today, we just blow with the wind for the fad of the moment? Few have standards and lines they don't cross.
Dell is a passionate guy that can be bit abrasive at times, but I still think he is a good guy and means well. This was a much-needed interview with Trevor...I think the sky is the limit for this company with Dell and Trevor with Dell having so much knowledge and Trevor's cool demeanor.
After having done business with him, I would have to disagree. He has been deceptive with me and misled me from the beginning of my relationship with him as a customer. I purchased a paramotor that he knew he couldn't provide and it's been 7 months and I'm still without the equipment I paid for. He will not provide a shipping date and states that he will not cancel my order and refund my money. These dishonest business practices are unconscionable. I regret ever doing business with this outfit. I had no way of knowing it was this bad. Now, I'm out almost $10,000 in gear and I'll have to retrain because it's been so long.
We need the Dell video!
Trevor seems cool. Great job with the interview Judson!
Very well done video Judsonbaernt you rock
Much respect on this conversation boys.
Nice morning commute podcast this morning lol thanks!
Great interview. Keep up the great work Judson.
Great interview, Judson! Just want to provide a few factors that (in my opinion) increase safety:
1. Comfort and ease of handling the motor on the ground. If you're struggling with an awkward, heavy frame it's going to steal some of your focus, which can be disastrous in tricky launches.
2. Control. Gooseneck bars are my choice so you have better weightshift authority and thus better control.
3. Newer wing design. Wing safety improves with time, as companies innovate and update their designs. So I'd rather fly a newer design as long as I can find an independent, professional test report on it. I can't seem to find independent test reports on the Dominator wing, so I'd rather put my trust in something like a Mojo or a Spyder which you can look up the test results for and have an idea what to expect in different situations.
Just a few thoughts on my preferences for gear. Gear that gets out of your way makes flying less of a hassle, more fun and allows you to focus more.
I must ask, have you tried a Flat Top or a Dominator?
@@TrevorSteele1 Nope. Haven't seen any here in Finland yet. Each to their own, if you enjoy the gear you have, then you're golden. Fly and enjoy! Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to diss your choices, gear is very personal and these are my preferences and opinions that I feel improve my safety when flying. I respect you for training people and getting more people in the air. Giving the gift of flight is priceless.
Damn dude! You're good!!!
Uniting the whole damned thing? Are you gonna talk to Kurt next? Just curious...Nice Vid Judson...
Trevor steele is the god damn ghandi, uniting our community to end the hate. This is very topical too, just a couple days ago there was a bunch of hatred towards the flat top in a facebook comment section, Trevor was there as well. It was sad to see such anger.
If you want to enjoy the sport more, stay away from that Facebook page. A lot of people in that group give all of us a bad name. I have to laugh, I said all of us, I’ve never flown a paramotor before but I’ve watched 1000 videos on them from all of you.
Trevor is a good ass dude and he deserves no hate. Same with all of us, lets just have fun together!
Great interview, well said Trevor.
Hey Judson, been waiting on the Dell interview, did you post it and I missed it or are you still recovering from the experience? lol
Not posting it. It’s really not beneficial to the community
I agree with (para ninja.). let's have total respect for all. we all live in a world of chaos ... let's try not to make it even worse. and yelling in front of the children.... it's not cool at all.. it took me a long time to learn respect.... life is too short... lets put out good vibes for all. let's try.... iam no angel. ill rather be good. than bad *
Your awesome man Great idea! you always impressing me with your video content! Love watching your channel. You’ve came a long way from your first flight. Keep up the good work and fly safe 🍻
LOL good luck trying to bust through capt. kirks ego...LOL ...not to say you have any desire to interview him...awesome to finally see some peace talks appear...so many egos in this community it seems. bust out the peace pipes boys! really look forward to the dell interview, this is breakthrough material, I always liked Trevor. Judson I love the way you mingle and interview the PPG community and dont just shine the camera on yourself , salton sea interviews were epic, keep em coming! you and your camera girl got something going here.
still waiting for dell interview, was told it will be released last thursday ...judson must of got busy,
Where do we get to watch the interview with Dell? (For entertainment)
Good interview bro..paramotor celebrity Chanel...
Wow ! Im so happy you made this to happend
Buckled up! Let’s ride.
My wife and I ordered a Flat Top paramotor April 3, 2023 only to find out later that the Flat Top was no longer in production. He did not tell us at the time of order that they were no longer in production and that he had nothing to sell. He stole almost $10,000 including money for a reserve parachute and shipping costs from us. He states that he will not issue a refund. He is deleting my customer inquiries on his Facebook page and has shadow-banned me on his UA-cam channel. This has been my introduction into this hobby and now I cannot even fly due to this man and his dishonesty. I just want to take the time to let everyone who might be contemplating doing business with this man to beware. I would recommend staying away from him and saving yourselves a lot of money and trouble. I sincerely hope this helps someone out there to avoid what we're going through. Try hard to find someone reputable and do your homework first.
Thanks it really does, sad to see great ideas go to waste on people with bad decision making skills.
@@wm9782 Yes, and it's worse than that. He's engaging in criminal activity now by defrauding customers. I've heard from others who have been victimized by him as well.
So super proud of you Trevor! Your character, integrity, and humility shine through this interview! I’m proud to be a part of this group! Thank you Judson for encouraging the unity of this sport!!
Thank you Rachel!
So,wow ! Dell ,love you man ,super Dells experience and dedication to this sport has pushed everyone's ambition to improve ! I want to fly again ,will need a trike
What do you recommend for schooling in the Los Angeles area?
Was a great interview
Excellent interview
Well done Judson.
Nailed it! Thank you!
Good Job Guys! Great content
Go trevor!
Sorry i had to interrupt your interview. My bad Judson my bad. It was just a really great conversation I couldnt help it
great video
Nice video guys!
Plot twist: His dad dragged his name so much he changed his sons last name so when he gave the business to him people did not immediately associate it.
Dell's my uncle, not my dad and I've never had the Schanze last name!
I’ll never forget, the first year I was in the sport (2017), I was commenting on a YT video where a fellow flyer was asking a question on his video about troubleshooting an engine. I shared my experiences i was having to compare notes.
Out of absolutely nowhere, Dell comments, attacks me and goes on and on about how I don’t know anything and I’m on unsafe gear and blah blah blah. I’m like, who is this guy?? Here was just two guys sharing notes and this Yahoo inserts himself and goes off. So strange and psychotic.
Trevor, if you ever are going to be successful, you’ll need to disassociate yourself from Dell. Until then, you’ll live in his shadow and his stink will infect and negate everything you try to do with this biz.
So you get assed up because your ego gets bruised? You didn't have the ability to listen because of your ego? Weak minds can never build strong anything.
Actual last name!
Dell has ruined his product for me but the beautiful aspects of the flat top keeps me curious as to whether its worth buyin the product or not.
This CEO is a good salesman.
Sadly nobody seems to have a school with multiple types of companies as an option to purchase. Each school takes on their favorite and sell only one type of ppa package.
I’m impressed.
I ordered a FT paramotor 7 months ago and I still have not received it and FT won't give me a ship date and they say they won't cancel and refund me. I was misled from the beginning and what I've been put through as a customer is unconscionable. This is the most unprofessional company I've done business with. To say I regret doing business with them is a gross understatement. It's been a terrible experience from the beginning.
Wow great review
If you never stop learning, where does that put Dell?
in his own special magic place where he is on top of the world while we are only monkeys who WILL DIE for sure because we dont buy his 15 year old crap? 😅
Are you going to release the Dell interview you said you did?
Probably not now.
@@JudsonGraham why?
@@themaaciek Probably because this video struck a really positive chord and Dell is.....well you know. Do we realy need to see another manic rant that will just muddy the water? I don't think so.
This kid is really cool
lol, you cut it off at "Dell is a piece of crap" and didn't leave in the rest. I was interested to hear the "but..."
I loved this interview. It doesn't compensate for the damage Dell has done. I will not buy this equipment because of Dell.