No more Flat top for me! Skytap Angel interview with Andrew Fuller
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Talked with Andrew fuller and switching from flat top frame to an Angel #paramotor
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Even if Dell chased an owl that has nothing to do with the flat top. Do you eat chicken fish or beef? I think what you put those animals through far outweigh a mistake Dell made playing around with an owl.
As for me I have done a lot of research. The Skytap is heavier and it has larger holes in the cage because they literally cut corners in some of the cage pieces. Also if you look at the top part of the Skytap, because it's rounded it will be a pain to take the cage apart and get it back together. With the Flat Top because it's flat it would be way easier to put the cage back together.
I don't have a Flat Top yet but I hope to have one soon. For me if someone wants to judge me on the paramotor frame I fly, it's their problem.
I have flown a flattop and an Angel. The angel by far is better. Lighter and stronger. I can say this because I have both paramotors and have flown both. The angel breaks down easier and smaller. Easier to pack in the car trunk. Before you say what’s better or worse on the internet you might actually want to compare both on your own like I have done.
I must say I don't have much experience with either paramotor. But if you look at the Skytap, when you pull the two side cage pieces out wards, the top piece would also need to slide upwards. In my mind that would make it harder to take apart and reassemble. I just wanted to point that out.
As for weight I contacted the Skytap owner and he said that it is 57lb, I then asked Dell, he saif latest flat top is 56lb. So they are roughly the same weight but the Skytap should be a little bit heavier. The Skytap may feel lighter on launching due to a different harness.
You said the Skytap goes smaller. do you know what size of propeller it can handle? I'm honestly curious to know if it has a smaller cage diameter than the Flat Top.
@@austinsmith9413 Thank you for the reply… I will definitely need to do a video showing both… And I also did a video where I actually weighed both of them without the motor. Definitely more videos to come :-) thanks again
@@PPGGrandpa Can you weigh both of them with their harness? The flat top harness weighs under 3lb and the Duke harness used on the sky tap weighs 6.5-7lb according to the manufacturers. That would put the weight of the entire set up without the engine at roughly 19lb for the sky tap and 16lb for the flat top.
@@RickDean If only
Owls get chased by other owls, eagles, hawks, and other territorial birds. That chase scene was noting for that owl. I have a dozen chase scenes with drones that are amazing and much more intense than any paramotor can do to a predator bird. I had hawks killing my livestock and I used technology to chase them away without harming them. Get a clue dude. The flattop is probably the safest frame in the paramotor market. You'd be a fool to stop using it for political reasons.
My first five yrs was a flattop then added the Airtrike,the Airtrike was flimsy and the FT was too heavy for me at 61, so I went to BH Talon 190 and lite trike ,awesome combo,lotsa power. But that FT was so damn tuff, rolled it more that once zero damage. SkyTap is equally awesome,great choice. Gotta be a story behind the ground off comfort bars😝
That’s cool. I would like a trike one day
I love my talon 175
So millions of people shoot and kill ducks and geese and dove and all kinds of birds…..but this guy is evil because he touched one with his foot before watching it fly away unharmed? Theres plenty of reasons to hate Dell Scahnze that dont involve making yourself look ridiculous
It's a convenient marketing strategy to just say that your stuff is perfect so you don't ever have to update it.
Seems like ground kiting is the most important thing. Should I consider a Ozone Mojo PWR and some type of harness for practice before I start formal training?
If so what type of ground harness would you recommend? Ozone offers several. Thanks in advance. Rick
i personally do paragliding... i would highly recommend getting a heavily used wing or ground handling wing and beat that thing up. Once you have learnt ground handling then go get a nice wing for your ppg!
Yes as he said start with used wing. A Ozone indy is a good one if you can come across one. And get a free flight harness split leg is what I prefer🙂 that way when kiting becomes boring you can take your first free flight launch. I had around 42 free flights before I finally put the motor on.🪂 still Addicted over two years later🙂
Is there any sport that has more disgusting trash talking of competition than paramotoring.
It really is terrible. I'm interested in getting into the hobby and I'm seeing all this in-fighting going on. It is an absolute turn-off! I'm trying to learn what I can about the gear and instruction and this is all I'm seeing. Grow up!
Been this way for years so adapt....ever since I started researching over 10 years ago. Eventually dell gets under your skin with the nonstop b's so more n more are tired of it and put him in his place...
I fly a FT also, I put it on a trike I built, my knee can't take foot launch, I did train with Dell I think he's the best pilot but not the best instructor, not for me anyway, if it wasn't for Boyd and Trevor I would have hated training. I don't give a rats ass what anyone says or thinks people tell me I drank the kool aid.. don't care. I would only give up my flat top for a Skytap Angel. Thanks for the video Sean subbed and rang the bell.
I subbed to u too and shout out in the last vid I posted!!
@@PPGGrandpa thanks man and MERRY CHRISTMAS kiss those grandbabies !!
Merry Christmas!!
Dell comes across as an asshole!
@@Curious_Skeptic he can be one of the biggest you have ever known.
Idk a ton about paramotor frames at this stage, I understand people a lot better, and I could never support a brand that has a personality like Dell behind it. Not many people have a whole web site dedicated to how much they suck as a human.
Anything that gets super douche out of the ppg world is fine by me. It’s going to take decades to repair the damage that narcissist has caused
And if he just was humble and said he was sorry it would blow over in a few years
@@PPGGrandpa Yeah and what's even worse is that his gear would be even better and more popular if he was just a good sport and took constructive criticism to heart. Sucks that he just has to be a sociopathic man-baby about everything and thinks he is COMPLETELY impervious to his wrongdoings.
Seems like a rash decision. Of all the factors that come into play when deciding on a frame. Cant say ive ever considered whether the manufacturer had chased an owl. I know a guy that builds great frames and also hunts illegals at night, crossing the U.S. southern border. What he does on his own time is his business. Ive flown most frames. Pap, Fly products, Parajet, Skymax, skytap, flattop, blackhawk, Limitless, Gravity. Im most impressed with the Pap 1500 tinox/polini 202. Every weld is perfect, every screw is high quality stainless, fit n finish is the best ive seen. Shes overengineered in all the right places. Could probably hang a truck from Pap swingarms. I was caught in a tornado once at 1000 ft. and the Pap held up quite well. I hit the ground hard, most ppl watching thought i was dead. Pap struck the ground on the left swingarm first. Frame was bent 8 inches off center from the base, but all welds held up perfect. Anyone in Fl looking for a paramotor should see Londen Ivey. He knows the game and will get you setup correct. Its worth a few hours drive to see Londen. Hes like a paramotor magician.
Dell Schanze is the John McAfee of paramotoring lmao.
Frankly, i do not care about what anyone thinks of this Dell guy.Everything is a compromise and if i buy a flattop because i think it will protect me better from a broken spine or broken face and i get cross eyed looks from other pilots,they can kiss my butt.I could not care less.Im not there to nurse their childish ego's.As far as the dominator glider versus others with technologies that the guy trashes,i am undecided.As a fixed wing pilot some of what he says about other designs makes sense to me.Every one says theirs is better,and yes some are more caustic about it.But i will go with what my research leads me to because its my life.
Don't forget that kidney buster on the hang points
Yes. Those gotta go
That’s a myth!
@@PPGGrandpaaccording to Dell anyone who is getting their "kidneys busted" from the Flattop is a result of them not having the harness adjusted correctly. Do you really think that Dell would design and fly a paramotor that has a design flaw like that? Don't you think that after testing his design and finding that it was "busting his kidneys" or poking him in the side that he would not change the design and fix it? Obviously your criticism of the Flattop is based on ignorance and maybe even lies from people who don't understand how to adjust and use a piece of equipment that is new to them and different than what they are used to. Maybe you could listen to what the designer and person who has actually used the equipment in question more than anyone in the world says about it.
Dell is saving lives whos cares if he was playing with a barn owl. Your safety is number one priority obviously.
News flash you do stupid things you win stupid prizes fall out the sky on anything you are getting hurt. Ultralights have a lot more landing gear n crumple zone but you stall one n hit the ground your most likely breaking your back if you honestly think the flat top would save you you better avoid the sport! If you fly safe most equipment on the market is safe. Its on you to be safe don't buy super dillweeeds salespitches!
Yea he’s saving lives as he’s flying into another pilots wing on purpose and causing him to crash into a frozen lake 🙄
@@Peeingstickymilk that guys motor went out slowing the wing down causing the rear pilot to touch his wing. Personally i wouldn't trust 2-stokes enough to do formation flying with PPG but people do it all the time anyways
@@flyingtime5501Dell has crashed and destroyed over a dozen Flattops doing stupid stuff and never been injured.
@@Peeingstickymilkyes his shoe string hooks got caught on the canopy of his friends wing and the guy panicked and threw his reserve when he didn't need to and smashed into solid ice without any injuries. I believe I read that in spite of Dell's warning him not to fly wings or paramotors that would get him killed he gave into peer pressure from people like you and started flying the exact dangerous gear Dell warned him about and he died exactly how Dell warned him he would.
The most dangerous thing about PPG is peer pressure!
One of the things I don’t like about the flat top and the angel frame! is it has more motor torque twist than any other frame I have ever seen! Seems kind of dangerous to me in a way. Tucker gott posted a honest video about angel frame/ flat top And has the same conclusion as me. way too much motor torque twist! You can see it on some of my videos I’ve posted with John flying the frame.🙂 have fun and fly safe
More tork steering is caused by wider hang points. Wider hang points give the pilot more weight shift authority and effect to counter the the increased tork steer that you are complaining about. If you are not used to having as much weight shift ability from habitually flying a paramotor with narrow hang points that prevents you from having the ability to weight shift you will naturally not develop the feeling for or use of the weight shift ability of a wider hang point paramotor leading to a feeling of it having "to much motor tork" . Dell deliberately designed it so that you can easily overcome the tork steer with weight shift which decrease the drag of having to pull brakes to keep you going straight ahead or to turn! Another advantage of wide hang points is much greater resistance to riser twist that will kill you !
Get training from Dell to learn how to weight shift correctly and you will learn how to anticipate the greater tork steer from the wider hang points and actually use the much greater weight shift abilities of the Flattop to more than overcome the slightly increased tork steer.???
The lighter weight and unpadded harness is specifically designed to assist with weight shifting by being unpadded with more freedom of movement side to side. And there's more weight shift ability in a wider seat because there's room for you to actually shift your weight! Use it !
Do you still have the flat top frame for sale. I'd be interested.
this is a hit piece only; i am sure he still uses it; FT is the best; strongest.
Dell reviewed one of the skytaps next to his flattop. Skytap was a complete turd. Cheezy quality.
Yeah absolutely no one does biased reviews cough cough especially the super dillweed! Lmfao
I'm with you. I would like a strong safe cage but I cannot accept the reputation of that man and help him stay in business. He's barred from California and many other states. This is not to slander but just info
The info is out there. I just was not looking but people sent me videos and articles
and the ENTIRE Oregon coastline, grrrrr
Being barred from california would be a great honor. I don't see how not going there would be a suitable punishment. Kicking the owl was childish, but it isn't like he tricked his wife into getting an abortion or something.
Barred from ca? Really??? You idiot...
If the engineering absolutely amazing and safe, what is your complaining about?
Hilarious how many people act like they wouldn’t try to chase an owl to see if they could keep up if give. The chance.
I have carefully watched the video of the " owl kicking" and even though I don't approve of harassing any wildlife I saw no one actually kick the owl. The pilot just touched the tail of the owl without any kicking or hard contact meant to hurt the owl. The pilot does say that he kicked the owls ass but he was obviously meaning that he had out flown the owl and caught up to it to the point that he could touch it. I believe that it was Dell and that he was harassing it and he pled guilty to harassment of the owl.
Giving that you got to admit that the video is an incredible demonstration of the abilities of the Flattop and the pilot!
Hi the sky top angel because the owner doesn’t scare birds he’s a nice person. Stigma sissy.
do you wanna sell the flattop ?
without a motor
PPG Grandpa/Sean!!!!! I wish I could have enough to get the angel. How much money will that new frame be?
I sort of want to get one, but I dont know how much I could get for my flat top.
I wonder if anyone will post from flat top saying that is the world worst decision. I would like it if they would consider buying it back from me.
Are you still interested in selling? joyfulpyro@gmail.com
@@joyfulpyro2589 not sure if I’ll sell ppggrandpa @gmail.com
I’ll get the prices for everything and talk about it on a future vid
I guess Super Dell is so bad that Angel copies his design. Now that’s integrity. I don’t care if Dell is whacky. Yeah, he’s clearly kicking at the owl. And the Sea Gulls...I care more about my safety. Don’t trust Bun Boy
@@tpj1959 but you trust the super doopper dillweed? You know there are more than 2 options!? Unless you buy the super dillweeds sales pitch that all other in the sport are 'deathtraps". Gtfoh
Airforce Paramotor frames.
Its a decent setup, but I would still rather have a flattop.
Your Welcome
vi o teu vídeo até ao fim.
Acho que todos temos o direito e dever de procurar melhores equipamentos mas,
o que não me parece certo é fazer isso apoiado em falsas comparações.
Tudo que tens dito contra o flattop me parece errado. Apenas minha opinião que vale o que vale.
Bons voos
A single stupid action of an individual shouldn't decode the rest of his life ...and besides what does that got to do with a great art craft like the flat-top ?
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Its not a single action. Dell also likes to kick PEOPLE out of the sky, is bragadocious and everyone else sells skytrash. Yeah, he likes to bash everyone else. Thats what turns everyone off no matter how good a pilot he is or claims to be.
Have you research any others? There are lots of great models to chose from that are safe unless you already bought into super deedoopers your gonna die on anything else sales pitch! He been running the same scheme for well over 10 years that I know of!
@@UpcomingJedia lot of those easily offended people are dead now ! I think it's correct to say that they knocked themselves out of the sky by being so easily offended and ignoring wise advice because of peer pressure from people like you.
What’s his supply line like? Stupid to jump ship from a guy with great supply line. The SkyTap guy isn’t going to have spare parts. Flash in the pan.
Huge supply. If you break it, he send you free parts.
Tim Johnson is actually Dell
Rick Dean Andy told me he’s not even advertising his because it’s selling so well. At least there is someone else selling something safer. I’ve already purchased Dell’s entire package including training. Maybe I can attend one of Andy’s SIV courses one day.
@@tpj1959 Good luck with training. Dell is an excellent pilot and having consistent wind at his site is a real plus.
@@RickDean Thanks. At my age, I had to go with Dell. And the location played a big reason for me going with him. I don't want to kill myself running around. Andy seems to be doing well with the Sky Angel and SIV classes. That's good.
Yeah, I'd rather give my money and time to Dell, the owl kicker, than this Andy guy who is obviously a dirtbag thief. He gets trained by Dell, then steals his ideas... lame, and anyone who supports him is lame.
There's a fool born every day! I wouldn't support anything about that egomaniac even if the equipment was the best. There are lots of cool options out there depends which fits you best!