I put the Bora Speedhorse to the test, and though its impressive is some ways, it has one major flaw
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- Опубліковано 18 лип 2020
- I put the Bora Portamate Speedhorse to the test, and though it is impressive in some ways, it has one major flaw! If you are in the market to purchase new saw horses, or the Bora Speedhorse, make you you watch this review first.
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Bora Portamate 31.5 in. H x 45 in. D Speedhorse Sawhorse 1500 lb. capacity 1 pc.
The Bora Portamate PM-4500 Speedhorse™ is the ultimate upgrade for your job site, workspace, or workshop. Instant setup and teardown so you can get to work faster and complete jobs more efficiently. The Speedhorse™ deploys 30x faster than conventional sawhorses - just pull the release button in the middle of the frame. Designed for flexibility in a wide variety of environments, this sawhorse is built tough to withstand heavy projects ranging from construction and carpentry to furniture builds. And when the job is finished, simply pull the levers and fold the legs up - doesn't matter which order. This contractor-grade sawhorse will revolutionize your work.
Instant set up - go from folding to ready-to-use in seconds
Superior weight capacity - Each speed horse has a weight capacity of 1500 pounds
Ready out of the box - Your speed horse comes ready to use with no assembly is needed
Fast clean up - the legs fold up in any order, allowing you to flip them up fast when you are finished working
Thank you for the honest and very thorough review. Really helped me out.
Thanks you just saved me some hard earned dollars. I had some other sawhorses older generations not sure if they were bora but they might've been that were just like these and after a few uses they failed because I couldn't get them to fold together properly. You're the only video that I've seen that point out the one big flaw of this sawhorse. Thanks
I am so glad I saw this. I wanted these but the price was high. And I wanted to research all saw horses. I bought the toughbuilt CB-700 and it cost me less then $100 dollars, I bought it for my husband for a Christmas gift this year. This one not only holds 2x2s but also holds 4x4s, and it is made of steal, and the UA-cam reviews show how strong and reliable these are. So I am so glad I didn't get the Boras. Nice concept but they just do not look strong. I hope my husband likes the ones I bought him on Christmas Day. Anyway thanks for your review.
I am glad I found this. I don't want to spend that much money and get the problem. Thank you.
Stability against side pressure is always my main requirement in a good sawhorse. Thanks for the review
I had these in my amazon cart and ready to buy, but figured id check for a review first. You saved me from making big mistake! I bought the tough built c650 instead. Thanks for doing this great review!
Glad I watched this review. I was going to pick up a pair of these to use as a work bench but also to double up as a hop-up platform if i need throw some planks on top and work around ceilings and cornices. I knew that wasn't what they are designed for but i can use my old steel ones like that, they just so big and heavy. These would be very dangerous. Thanks!
Thanks for sharing this review. I'd love to see other comparable brands under this stress test. I bought a pair of these two years ago and as a DIY dabbler they've served me well.
Thanks for the review & for showing everyone a major problem. This problem is deal breaker for me. I was going to buy a set in about 10 days. Not anymore!!
Thanks for the review. That side force issue is a dealbreaker for me.
Yeah, it definitely needs addressed
I agree I can't take these to a jobsite worried someone would get hurt. We abuse our saw horses. Thanks for the honest review
Yep. Not acceptable for the price.
Ya I’m less careful when I’m working and the abuse I put my equipment through, idk think it’ll take my 200lbs
Yeah I was leaning toward these for the speed factor...think I’ll be going with toughbuilt. You should consider a review on those
Honesty is the best review any viewer can (and should) ask for! I’m a DYI guy, and can not afford to buy a lot of tools that fail short of what we expect a tool to perform. You do that for us... thus allowing us to make a more informed buying decision.
Absolutely. I will never recommend something to someone that I wouldn't buy myself 👊
These look really nice. Congrats on 70K bro. Well deserved 👊🏻
Thanks built!!!!
Really appreciate the honest review, was going to buy a pair of these... the search conintues for good saw horses
In the same situation. After watching many reviews, ended up going with the Kreg Track Horse. Been using them for a few months, and they’re quite nice. Didn’t like a couple things, though: No handle for transport and loose components while in transit. And then … came up with a nice DIY fix for both, and now I LOVE IT! For anyone interested, just search UA-cam for “Handle for Kreg Track Horse”.
Thank you for the honest review!
Everything looked great with these until you proved their crucial weakness. Thanks for that. They may just need to make the fall zone angle out at the bottom on each end, to overcome that. That would be awesome!
Thanks. I was going to buy a pair. I’ll keep looking.
Thansk for the review!
Great info. I was just about ready to purchase but due to the side motion info I’m thinking twice before doing so,
Thank you for revealing the flaw. Saved me time and money. I’ll be getting two adjustable ones by Kobalt. Kobalt is a bit heavy and klunky but, will stand up to abuse.
Real smooth catching that flaw! I have Toughbuilt horses and while not as easy to open and close, they haven’t failed me once. The weight capacity isn’t too far off from the Bora either.
Thanks for the comment and feedback Wicked!!!
Thanks for your honest feedback 👍very much appreciated.
PS. Love your channel 💪🏴
Thanks B13!!!!
Great review...very complete. I was looking at these, very glad you tested the side load capacity (fail)... by chance did the manufacturer come back with any comment to that weakness?
Thanks - I like your channel
Honest review thanks
Hey Clint, Larry from da Burgh - love the channel/content. I have been eyeing these for awhile. When used with 2x4 rails screwed in, the "major issue" becomes a non-issue.
Thanks for putting the product under real life functional testing. I would of been disappointed to learn of sideloading causing such an issue after the fact.
Excellent video, thanks.
What you did with a light lean would be nothing compared to what 500-750 lbs of load being placed on/hoisted on/slid on or dropped on would do and these are supposedly rated 2600 lbs a pair. As soon as I first saw the legs drop I wondered how they would handle a shifting load. Wow, all that thought for other aspects and they miss the most obvious. These cost 40% more than the Harbor Freight Bauer design which is only missing the one button setup feature. Im headed to Harbor Freight. great review and keep up the gymnastics!
Yeah ever, was kinda shocked to see this happen. I haven’t tried the Harbor freight, but check out the Jaw horse or even the Dewalt horses as well
Very useful information thank you
CONGRATS ON 70K!! 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks John!!!!!
@Tool Review Zone. Thanks Clint for thorough and honest review of the saw horses. You helped alot of people save money until the company fixes the problem.
My only other question is what does Chaka think about you holding a Ryobi hammer?
Hope you and your family stay safe and well.
As mentioned before Adama, I'll never recommend anything to my subscribers that I wouldn't buy myself bro. That said, Chaka is not a subscriber to this channel, but I have heard from others that he lives Ryobi lol
I have 2 of them, love em, but I doubt I will ever use them for anything other than sawing wood or using it as a make-shift work table for assembling something.
This is what we need more of testing products.
Just bought these today At Lowe’s on sale .Really like that the 2x4 is higher and using it with the track saw.
Thank you for this...nice one matey
Nice video review - I was ready to pull the trigger on this PM-4500. Bora now has an adjustable leg version of this - model PM-4550. They claim the "wobble" issue has been addressed. Sounds like another test is in order.
FYI - couple days ago I found the Speedhorse at my local Lowes. It not only auto-deployed nicely but didn't have the wobble you and others have noted.
Thanks for the review TRZ. At work I use both the Bora (which seem to be a little more flimsy) and toughbuilt and I was considering this pair since I need more saw horses. Unfortunately I'm not sold on them yet.
Thanks for the feedback Slams 👊
I was trying to see how it could handle sliding force, thanks for that
I have the toughbuilt C700 Saw horses and there 1300 per horse and haven't had any problems with them there stiff and they hold side weight as well as downward weight great @ToolReviewZone
Awesome, thanks for the feedback Antonio!!!!
I've just bought them, they're superb, although setting them up can be a bit awkward. Glad I didn't go for Bora though!
@@tonkatoy200 awesome let us know what you like about them over time
yeah, deal breaker for me too. I have not been able to find these in store to personally inspect and I was about to order online. Thank you for exposing that flaw.
I like honest reviews thanks for sharing, and not to bad product but could be better for sure
That's all you'll ever get here brother
Thank you for this review was really excited for this project but the side force breakage is a total deal breaker
I have a pair. I didn't test their ability to handle shear forces, now I don't have to. Version 2 needs to have that issue fixed. There's no excuse for that kind of poor engineering design mistake. And no, Bora can't argue that they weren't meant to be used that way. As you noted, these are supposed to hold up on a job site which no one has to be reminded has all sorts of activities that beat tools up. Right now, I'd be afraid to use mine as a puzzle assembly table after seeing your review. Thanks for the heads up.
Thanks for the feedback A B. I thought maybe I was going crazy as this has so many great reviews, but I guess it having the same issue 👊
Great advice
I do all of these trades you listed 0:30 to 0:55 good Work Clint Broski @ToolReviewZone
Had a set collapse from leaning some sheetrock against them, while 3/4 ply rested on them. Only cost me about 500 bucks, in repairs, damaged tools and ruined stock. I won't make that mistake again...either in buying those pieces of crap or by not checking clearances. Live and learn. As for weight holding capabilities, a pair of "i-beam" shop-builts will hold the same and won't cost much except the time and scrap. I'd put these in the trash bin as the plastic ones.
Wow, that is insane. I thought maybe it was just be as I could not believe how easy they were to bend. Thanks for the feedback Thasme
Thanks for this review. I'm in the market for some sawhorses, trying to justify the cost of the jawhorse sheetmaster, but still weighing other options.
I just did a review on the Jawhorse. I've noticed a lot of rust already after leaving them outside. Very disappointed in that, but I will definitely say that the Dewalt saw horses have held up nicely
A good and honest review, too bad of this oversight on Bora's design. Old style wood sawhorses could easily handle a side load of ply or sheetrock resting against them, why not BORA?
I’ve got the Toughbuilt C650’s. Not as quick to deploy as these but one thing I like about the C650 are that each leg is height adjustable so you can set up on uneven ground. That’s actually come in handy a few times. Not sure if they would take the side to side movement as well as the Bora ones but I’ll have a look when they’re set up next
Did you get a chance to check the Toughbulit for side-to-side stability?
@@hjorte. I have the Toughbuilt C700 and went to check that after watching this video. Not moving 1 inch and they aren't even sitting on a flat surface. Seem far sturdier than these Bora ones. They are a pain to open and I even hurt myself once, but I value reliability more than having the luxury of opening them in 5 seconds.
@@BHSL11 thanks, much appreciated.
Good review 👍
I bought a pair of these today on clearance at the big box store. I have other sawhorses but they aren’t great for cutting up full sheets of plywood. The store had 3 in stock- two with bent legs that weren’t even functional and only one good one. This was a big red flag for me, but the manager was walking by and he let me have them for next to nothing because who would trust a sawhorse that’s already bent. It took a couple hours, but I eventually got them straightened back out and they work perfectly fine for cutting up the occasional sheet good that I need it for. I’m glad I did not pay full price though and certainly will not put any heavy loads on them. Too bad because they are pretty great otherwise.
You just convinced me to get a set of ToughBuilt C700's from Home Cheapo.
Good stuff, it is always good to know the flaws!
Thanks RSP!!!
Probably saved me some money, thanks.
Thanks for the review. Like others, I've decided against buying the Bora sawhorses after watching your experience.
Thanks for the review. I'm looking at saw horses that I can set my 1,700 pound truck camper on when not in use. These failed for my needs.
Great review 👍 ✌️
Thanks Jon!!!
What's up brother how is your Sunday going hope all is good I've been looking for a new set of horses 👊🇺🇸😎 I have a set that's dedicated for the my brake table and then we end up using the plastic foldable horses but forever my father uses the metal sawhorse what's a 2 by 4 on top flip them over and then you can fold the legs into the sawhorse he's uses forever and always continue to use us you just have to watch what you put them down on because of the metal feet but I didn't like that and how it collapse that easy great video enjoy your weekend brother
Thanks for the awesome comment as usual Joseph👊👊👊👊
Great review, it wobbles and bends when leaned against. thin metal locking leg support. will look elsewhere for a more stable platform.
I was considering these vs. the toughbuilt the other week. Just "playing" with them in the store, the top of one of the legs bent quite easily from a little side pressure as you mentioned; complete failure. Additionally, no adjustability on the legs. Since I use mine a lot around a homestead on uneven ground, the toughbuilt adjustable won easily. $20/less each, similar capacity, adjustable legs, material kickout pegs, and quite solidly built.
The ToughBuilt ms are legit. I have a ud somewhere on them, but I really like them 👊
Thank you for a very meaningful evaluation, I was comparing to a competitor brand to make a decision. It's alergy season and I feel a sneeze coming on... ah... ah... ah.. K-R-E-G. Gesundheit!
I got these and they are great, I bought two lengths of 4" x 2" to put between them, but they didn't fit, I had to cut them down to 1.75" width [ luckily I have a table saw] which was annoying. apart from this they have been fine.
THANK YOU! Was liking these for a sec and then BAM... you helped me back out... awesome video!
Very interesting results
Yeah, definitely bummed out towards the end Dan 😢
Great review, I’m now a new subscriber. I’ll pass on buying these, thanks for saving me the money and a possible disaster! Sounds like all sawhorses need a “side-load” specification too!
Thanks for the comment and welcome to the channel Ray!!!!!
Good job
I was doing a little job at my vacation home , bought the cheap plastic saw horses figuring I wasn’t going to beat them up to bad . Pulled a sheet of Advanteck off my pickup onto them and broke them all to shit ! Stopped everything and built 2x4 horses . They don’t budge or anything . I just stack them up in the garage , some things you can’t make better !
Nice job!
Thanks Gerald !
I literally picked up a pair yesterday. Now I feel shafted.
First timer here as I am looking for a pair of takedown sawhorses. For me, it is the setup with 2 x 4 and plywood table that I use all the time. That is my setup, regardless what I do. So is this a deal breaker for me? I don't know, as I have to check out the others out there that allow this setup. Anyone care to recommend any to look at?
Thanks for this review. Gonna pass based on the flaw you shared.
Damn I've been thinking about getting these...not anymore. Thank you for wasting your money for the rest of us lol the 👍 was well deserved
Thanks
Great Review, Thanks. But is there some intractable rule on UA-cam that crappy distracting music MUST be playing in the background?
Almost order them at Amazon, but now I'm not sure, which one are the best then???
Interesting. I just saw a pair of these at Lowe's and was considering picking them up, but I wanted to see a couple more video reviews and ran across this one. After seeing how easily they failed with the side motion I don't want to spend $59 for one or $118 for two (not counting sales tax) if they fail that easily. I'm looking at either the Touhghbuilt 700 or the Kreg Track Horse ($179 each) because I have a lot of Kreg tools and benches already and really like their durability.
I’d be interested to see what happens if BORA were to be contacted about the side force “failure.”
A great review. If solid and tough, worth the money. Not for me. I don't mind a longer open-up/pack-away, gonna keep looking, or make timber ones.
Sounds like Bora needs to pay you for R&D'ing their product!. The other thing I didn't like is the fact that they don't support a full sheet of Ply on the sides.
Good honest review man I won’t be buying I’m going for tough build c700 ,problem with tool manafactures is they don’t give there tools to trades people to try out before they go to manafacturing ,🇨🇮🇨🇮🇨🇮☘️
Hello, does anybody know whether the Kobalt sawhorse with the same design also has the low lateral resistance problem? Thanks!
They're great for woodworking. Buy the 4550 adjustable legs, to match height with workbench. Just don't force them sideways.
That issue does suck. But for me, the best part of these sawhorses is the way you can install side rails that stick up 1.5 inches. Meaning I can lay a 2x4 flat anywhere in the middle for working on skinny long boards
I am going to take a hard pass on them thanks for you're honest review much appreciated clint
Thanks for the feedback TC!!
Lmfao hold on let me change omg that was so funny 🤣 @ToolReviewZone
Hahaha, thanks brother
I've probably never put more than maybe 200 lbs on my sawhorses so the 3000 lbs doesn't impress me. And the quick release legs save me about 15 secs per day. So it basically comes down to an extra $100 for some board slots.
Wow I was thinking about buying those but now I don’t know if I should any recommendations?
Someone mentioned toughbuilt, but I haven't used them personally
Glad I found this. No way I'm buying these. Glad I didn't waste my money.
I'm glad you discovered that horizontal weakness flaw. This is NOT good! Not only could it really jam up completely under extreme horizontal forces perhaps it could also collapse under a heavy load whole under horizontal load!
Yeah that's kinda silly for that metal end piece to not handle lateral force. Out comes the welder and some 1/4" plate. Shouldn't have to, but that's how I would deal with it assuming there's clearance for the modification. But I'm not certain that's the target purpose for the things anyway. They seem light duty to begin with. I'll stick to my heavy duty manual folders that don't wobble at all.
THANKS, I was about 24hr from buying them. is any other sawhorse you do suggest ???
The Dewalt saw horses are pretty good if your just looking for standard hkrse, but if you want something with a clamp, I lobe the jaw horse
Thanks for the review. I was hoping to buy a set. Now i am not.
Yo TRZ! That's a darn shame! I was eyeballing these for awhile now but after seeing this I wont be getting these unless of course for the right price (free). I also find it hard to believe that you would have trouble carrying both saw horses with that gymnasts physić of yours.
I never thought these would do that AMOS! I don't really understand it as everything else on them are built great?
Even free knowing they could get a guy hurt I won't allow them on my sites. We stack plywood on these horses, every ounce in a while we're pushing from the side to straighten them or to single one out. I just imagine a downward force then a side load then of course a broken ankle.
Nice job god bless
On serious job sites those saw horses would be hit or pushed more than one time and if you leaning on them caused them to malfunction, then it is a problem. Secondly, how they wiggle on those legs. To raw cuts sure, but using it for detail cuts with either jigsaw or circular saw I would go with something with more sturdy legs.
Agreed bro. Everything is quality on these except the legs. Total bummer for sure
I guess I will buy the kreg then thankyou.
Thanks. I was about to purchase a pair. NOT NOW!
Did Bora address the issue you found with the new version P-4550?
Never heard a word from them 🤷
@@ToolReviewZone Thanks for the feedback. I watch another review video of the new version and a poster said that Bora addressed the issue with the new version.
These are only good for holding one board or sheet at a time, not for stacking material on. I built my last two sets out of scrap material. They’re heavy & they aren’t convenient to carry from one place to another, but I don’t have any $ in them, and they’’ll support all the material I want to put on them.
*Back yard picnic table base
*Yard sale table base
*Camping bed base
Well I was going to put a order in for them but after seeing how they failed. Nope! Not worth the money I think. Thanks for the review.