2 weeks ago I traded in my 22 Tremor for a Raptor, had the Tremor for a year and loved it but I can tell you the tremor does not compare to the Raptor, the Raptor is just amazing. Best Truck I have owned!
rather save the money to get the Tremor, sick hoodvents look like earthquake and all the bells and whistles minus the wide body raptor. sleeper build. very good truck overall, smooth do everything truck.
I love the Raptor, it’s the ultimate vehicle, I would love to have one of money was no object. When it comes down to how I use the truck, off roading, towing, carrying stuff in the bed the Tremor with a Torsen front end is going to be the best bet. I want something that I can off road in, get into places that are harder to access. The Tremor is 6” narrower than the Raptor, so it’s going to do better in narrower trails, plus the trail turn assist is really going to help. My only beef on the Tremor is it’s massive rake. I would put a Halo leveling suspension on it to level it out. I would opt for the higher trim package because you will get the Raptor transfer case that will give you the all wheel drive option, in addition to 4H and 4L. I think this is really handy when driving on paved roads in the rain and snow. Plus, I think that the seats are ventilated and AC on the backside during the summer is great! I really think the Tremor hits that market of consumer that uses their trucks off road and wants something really capable right off the lot. Side bar, I wish Ford put locking rear ends and the auxiliary switches in every model of 4X4 they make.
My guess is that a lot of the difference in handling feel is due to the tire difference between the two models. The Tremor uses a fairly tall and narrow General ATX tire while the Raptor uses a much wider profile BFG KO2. Rubber compounds are probably different as well. One other point. The Tremor with the 5.0L also has another option that's not available with the EcoBoost. You can order either the Roush TVS or the Whipple supercharger and have it dealer installed on the 5.0L. That will give you at least 700 hp but it will also put you closer to the price of a Raptor. However, you would still have much higher payload and tow ratings than the Raptor and you would have power similar to a Raptor R.
I hear you about the payload and tow capacities, and squat issues of the Raptor. I currently tow a 3500 pound teardrop trailer, which is nothing for either truck. After having old Mustangs and a Ford Explorer with leaf springs, I'm tired of bouncy rear ends. Plus the Raptor is so cool looking and sounding. Cost no object, I go for the Raptor.
I got my 5.0 this Wednesday. I ordered the 5.0 for supposed long term reliability (in my mind). After 150 miles I'm in with 16.5 combined mpg. It is hard not to want to listen to the v-8 though. Peace, Love!!
Now at 17.8 mpg (combined) in "normal" mode (mostly). I probably haven't gone over 70 yet because it has been in the tri-city area of the San Juan basin (hard not to accelerate though because it's there). I'm in the 4-corners so not all that far away from you. I haven't tried "Eco" mode. Still on the first tank of gas (tank is huge). I tried out sport mode this week and was impressed. I think the Tremor is slightly wider and taller than the F-150 FX4 (slightly). Peace, Love!!
I have a 19 Raptor and considering a tremor here shortly. They are growing on me! I do offroad on my truck and with the Raptor I snap the mirrors in on every trail lol. I also would love the extra payload in the tremor. Im adding ICON leafs into the raptor to help with towing sag and payload. The 5.0 would be awesome with a supercharger but living at high elevation im a bit torn on engines
Oh, you can do this? So the Raptor would have both coil springs and leaf springs? EDIT: Oh, never mind. I just realized that the Raptor started using coils in 2021.
You don’t need to watch the vid to know the answer, look at the resale values/prices for used versions- IT AINT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE!!!!😂😂😂 + the Raptor has all forged internals in that 3.5 HO, the only other ford that shares that? The supercar GT. So when you throw an aggressive 93 octane tune on a Raptor you can rest easy vs the tremor…..
Way more comfortable in the tremor because the recaros on the raptor hold you snug in the seat when offroading or racing. Tremor seats much more comfortable for daily use
The dealerships in my area are still adding a “market adjustment” of $10-15k on Raptors. It’s not like your choice is spending $78k for a Tremor or $82k for a Raptor. All things being equal, I’d rather have the Raptor but it would be hard to justify spending $90k plus on a pickup truck.
You could always add one. I have thought about buying a used Platinum trim and having the dealer install a Torsen front axle for me. From what I have read it would be around $1200. $600 for the axel, $600 for the labor. You might want to ask around and see if it’s possible at your local dealership.
I’ve had 2 Gen 2 Raptors 2018 & 2020. Then in 2022 I switched to the Tremor 402A and last ween I bought another 402A 2023 both were loaded w/Torsen diff’s . I chose the Tremor because of where I live and the type of trails I do and towing and hauling was easy with either. If I lived in wide open area out west it would be a Raptor. “FOR ME” I really like the Tremor’s better.
I prefer the Tremor but the Raptor will hold its resale value much better. If I could get a great deal on the Tremor for like $35k slightly used, I’d go that route.
Well, the Tremor is easily a more rounded vehicle, Maverick Tremor, Ranger Tremor, F-150 Tremor, F-250 Tremor and F-350 Tremor. You can also get the Super Duty Tremors with gas or diesel!
@@KAZ109 Maybe not McDonalds, more Ruby Tuesday :lol:. Well maybe there is a bit more tech and more powerful b/c of turbo but nothing sounds better than a 6.2L. Maybe the Raptor R. I also have a Flowmaster catback. Sounds better than my neighbors new 6.2L vette. His words. Driven easy i can get 15-16mpg. Raptor can't tow 11.1k. (or 9k effortlessly). Each has its purpose.
The Tremor is a separate model, not a package added to an XLT or Lariat and it comes in either the 401A Standard Equipment Group or the 402A High Equipment Group. The 402A does also get you the Raptor T-case with the 4A (AWD) setting. BTW, did you graduate from THE Ohio State? j/k
He’s clearly making this comparison for content, ain’t no way the tremor equals the raptor. I mean if that were the case why does Ben have a raptor and not a tremor?
I live in Utah near you. Raptor's are just a flex for city boys. I don't see how people can stomach a $1000+ truck payment for depreciating liability, but more power to them. I had the same problem with my Ram Hemi with the coil springs. Putting my boat or a car trailer behind it would make it squat all the way down to the bump stops. Rated for like 10K but couldn't handle 10% tongue weight. What a joke. If you tow a camper or a boat and use a 1/2 ton get a truck with leaf springs and if you regularly tow over 7000 lbs get a 3/4 ton.
Got myself a fully loaded 22 tremor with every option available, with 600 miles for 66k. The sticker price is 76 k and the owner traded it for a new truck. Couldn't pass it. Best truck I ever owned. Oh I and I forgot Blue Cruise
If I got the Tremor I'd get the higher end package. I really want the Raptor, probably the 37 package, but am balking because of the much lower payload capacity of the Raptor; I think you said 1700 lbs Tremor and 1100 lbs Raptor. I am considering an RSI Smartcap on the bed, which is very heavy, I think I read nearly 400 lbs, and possibly a Roofnest Sparrow2 pop up tent on top of that, and adding in other things into the bed, I'm concerned the Raptor might be butt heavy, might sag. Most Raptor overland youtubers don't mention that but a few do, and they opted to add leafs or I think one said heavier springs to the rear of the Raptor to alleviate that sag, but then I'd be concerned that would sacrifice that wonderful buttery smooth drive of the Raptor. Do you have any thoughts on this payload, sagging concern? Because other than that, I'd likely get the Raptor, still might but unsure. Thanks.
Tremor interior is amazing. I wasn't about to spend another $10,000 for leather, memory seat, slide middle counsel to a desk. Not worth it. I have the loaded tremor not the lariat model. It's a tremor and does its purpose
I think ford should just toss those raptors specs into the new tremor and give us a new off road truck with MSRV that’s in between top range raptor and Tremor at least it makes sense for the money and I believe the wide body and fender flares will make the Tremor more aggressive in the look and makes all of us happy. Plz keep the engine options also available we still love the V8 sound and it’s very American 🇺🇸 If you folks agree with me plz hit the like button. Thanks for the great content.
Twin tube rear shocks??? Are you sure??? Event the FX4 package give you monotube rear shocks. Just asking, I really hope you just misspoke that the Tremor has twin tube shocks. Not hating, Love your videos, just asking for clarification.
Am looking for a new F-350. Lariat or above. Have a 2020, Silver 2 tone. 18000, miles. Seeking another Silver one. Seems like there are none on any lots. Indiana here. Nothing from Indianapolis to Kentucky.
I don't disagree with you overall but I'll say that it's unfortunate that you mis informed your audience about the squat on the Raptor. I assume that you made it up for effect? Either way you don't have to look far to see towing reviews on the Raptor and the squat basically levels the truck. Were you talking to those people that put front levelers on? In that case then yes the squat will be noticeable. Either way I suggest you do a little research before making incorrect statements. I agree with the rest of your view and generally appreciate your content. Good job overall
2 weeks ago I traded in my 22 Tremor for a Raptor, had the Tremor for a year and loved it but I can tell you the tremor does not compare to the Raptor, the Raptor is just amazing. Best Truck I have owned!
Lucky 😭 I want a raptor so bad.
You would know!
What are your pros and cons? Trying to decide between the two. It will be a daily driver and long road trips.
I agree, love my 2020 raptor. But my parents 2023 tremor is sick
rather save the money to get the Tremor, sick hoodvents look like earthquake and all the bells and whistles minus the wide body raptor. sleeper build. very good truck overall, smooth do everything truck.
I love the Raptor, it’s the ultimate vehicle, I would love to have one of money was no object.
When it comes down to how I use the truck, off roading, towing, carrying stuff in the bed the Tremor with a Torsen front end is going to be the best bet. I want something that I can off road in, get into places that are harder to access. The Tremor is 6” narrower than the Raptor, so it’s going to do better in narrower trails, plus the trail turn assist is really going to help.
My only beef on the Tremor is it’s massive rake. I would put a Halo leveling suspension on it to level it out.
I would opt for the higher trim package because you will get the Raptor transfer case that will give you the all wheel drive option, in addition to 4H and 4L. I think this is really handy when driving on paved roads in the rain and snow. Plus, I think that the seats are ventilated and AC on the backside during the summer is great!
I really think the Tremor hits that market of consumer that uses their trucks off road and wants something really capable right off the lot.
Side bar, I wish Ford put locking rear ends and the auxiliary switches in every model of 4X4 they make.
This is the exact reason I got the truck you described…and I love it.
My guess is that a lot of the difference in handling feel is due to the tire difference between the two models. The Tremor uses a fairly tall and narrow General ATX tire while the Raptor uses a much wider profile BFG KO2. Rubber compounds are probably different as well.
One other point. The Tremor with the 5.0L also has another option that's not available with the EcoBoost. You can order either the Roush TVS or the Whipple supercharger and have it dealer installed on the 5.0L. That will give you at least 700 hp but it will also put you closer to the price of a Raptor. However, you would still have much higher payload and tow ratings than the Raptor and you would have power similar to a Raptor R.
I wish they would offer the Tremor package with the 6.5’ bed and tow mirrors. I’ll have to stick with the FX4 package. Close enough I guess 🤷🏼♂️
I hear you about the payload and tow capacities, and squat issues of the Raptor. I currently tow a 3500 pound teardrop trailer, which is nothing for either truck. After having old Mustangs and a Ford Explorer with leaf springs, I'm tired of bouncy rear ends. Plus the Raptor is so cool looking and sounding. Cost no object, I go for the Raptor.
Even Ben knows a 1994 Eddie Bauer edition F150 is better than both trucks.😉
Dude mine was 7 months old and started rusting my 99 f150 frame still black wtf 😳 they don’t make them like the use too both xlt
Ya I just want the Raptor because it looks awesome
I got my 5.0 this Wednesday. I ordered the 5.0 for supposed long term reliability
(in my mind). After 150 miles I'm in with 16.5 combined mpg. It is hard not to want to listen to the v-8 though. Peace, Love!!
Now at 17.8 mpg (combined) in "normal" mode (mostly). I probably haven't gone over 70 yet because it has been in the tri-city area of the San Juan basin (hard not to accelerate though because it's there). I'm in the 4-corners so not all that far away from you. I haven't tried "Eco" mode. Still on the first tank of gas (tank is huge). I tried out sport mode this week and was impressed. I think the Tremor is slightly wider and taller than the F-150 FX4 (slightly). Peace, Love!!
Man has been grinding the content 💯
I have a 19 Raptor and considering a tremor here shortly. They are growing on me! I do offroad on my truck and with the Raptor I snap the mirrors in on every trail lol. I also would love the extra payload in the tremor. Im adding ICON leafs into the raptor to help with towing sag and payload. The 5.0 would be awesome with a supercharger but living at high elevation im a bit torn on engines
Oh, you can do this? So the Raptor would have both coil springs and leaf springs? EDIT: Oh, never mind. I just realized that the Raptor started using coils in 2021.
Both are BAD ASS, I would be happy with a Tremor
You don’t need to watch the vid to know the answer, look at the resale values/prices for used versions- IT AINT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE!!!!😂😂😂 + the Raptor has all forged internals in that 3.5 HO, the only other ford that shares that? The supercar GT. So when you throw an aggressive 93 octane tune on a Raptor you can rest easy vs the tremor…..
I choose both of these trucks as well Ben.
I would enjoy riding any of the 3.
Ben, please spend more time on the seats difference. How are the blue recaros compared to Tremor's seats for daily comfort ?
Way more comfortable in the tremor because the recaros on the raptor hold you snug in the seat when offroading or racing. Tremor seats much more comfortable for daily use
@@gurveertiwana3621what about the non recaro raptor seats?
A fully loaded tremor in my area is just under $80k. Id 100% just buy a Raptor at that point 😂
65k in my area…tremor makes far more sense for me
The dealerships in my area are still adding a “market adjustment” of $10-15k on Raptors.
It’s not like your choice is spending $78k for a Tremor or $82k for a Raptor. All things being equal, I’d rather have the Raptor but it would be hard to justify spending $90k plus on a pickup truck.
I think a 2.3,2.7,3.0 Bronco engine comparison would be cool too.
Awesome. My 2 favorite trucks but I'm going to keep my older King Ranch since the price of these trucks nowadays are ridiculous. Good review though! 👍
Looks more like orange than gold
Yeah I always thought they were orange too unless they changed them for 23?.🤔
Now that the Raptor doesn't have the Torsen I would go with the Tremor.
You could always add one. I have thought about buying a used Platinum trim and having the dealer install a Torsen front axle for me. From what I have read it would be around $1200. $600 for the axel, $600 for the labor.
You might want to ask around and see if it’s possible at your local dealership.
I’ve had 2 Gen 2 Raptors 2018 & 2020. Then in 2022 I switched to the Tremor 402A and last ween I bought another 402A 2023 both were loaded w/Torsen diff’s .
I chose the Tremor because of where I live and the type of trails I do and towing and hauling was easy with either. If I lived in wide open area out west it would be a Raptor.
“FOR ME” I really like the Tremor’s better.
I prefer the Tremor but the Raptor will hold its resale value much better. If I could get a great deal on the Tremor for like $35k slightly used, I’d go that route.
You’re not getting any tremors anywhere near 35k anytime soon
@@kylehowe6761 yeah the used ones are still above $60k
A new Ranger Tremor is $50k. It's ridiculous! 🤷
Well, the Tremor is easily a more rounded vehicle, Maverick Tremor, Ranger Tremor, F-150 Tremor, F-250 Tremor and F-350 Tremor. You can also get the Super Duty Tremors with gas or diesel!
That's a lot of bread for both of these vehicles. Guess they don't price em' like they used to.
Still love my 6.2L F150 Platinum. Maybe I made a mistake buying it because I'll never want anything else :lol:
If all you’ve ever had is McDonald’s you will never know what your missing at Ruth Chris
@@KAZ109 Maybe not McDonalds, more Ruby Tuesday :lol:. Well maybe there is a bit more tech and more powerful b/c of turbo but nothing sounds better than a 6.2L. Maybe the Raptor R. I also have a Flowmaster catback. Sounds better than my neighbors new 6.2L vette. His words. Driven easy i can get 15-16mpg. Raptor can't tow 11.1k. (or 9k effortlessly). Each has its purpose.
@@KAZ109 🤣🤣
What year did u get?🇺🇸😎💪
@@KAZ109 😂 that was good !!
If I rember correctly the tremor package was a sound system upgrade in the ranger...
Raptor all day. Rear coils, more HP, bigger wheels and tires, better interior.
The Tremor is a separate model, not a package added to an XLT or Lariat and it comes in either the 401A Standard Equipment Group or the 402A High Equipment Group. The 402A does also get you the Raptor T-case with the 4A (AWD) setting. BTW, did you graduate from THE Ohio State? j/k
He’s clearly making this comparison for content, ain’t no way the tremor equals the raptor. I mean if that were the case why does Ben have a raptor and not a tremor?
I live in Utah near you. Raptor's are just a flex for city boys. I don't see how people can stomach a $1000+ truck payment for depreciating liability, but more power to them.
I had the same problem with my Ram Hemi with the coil springs. Putting my boat or a car trailer behind it would make it squat all the way down to the bump stops. Rated for like 10K but couldn't handle 10% tongue weight. What a joke. If you tow a camper or a boat and use a 1/2 ton get a truck with leaf springs and if you regularly tow over 7000 lbs get a 3/4 ton.
Got myself a fully loaded 22 tremor with every option available, with 600 miles for 66k. The sticker price is 76 k and the owner traded it for a new truck. Couldn't pass it. Best truck I ever owned. Oh I and I forgot Blue Cruise
Was the 66k MSRP or is that after tax, title and license? I’m currently looking at a 23’.
If I got the Tremor I'd get the higher end package. I really want the Raptor, probably the 37 package, but am balking because of the much lower payload capacity of the Raptor; I think you said 1700 lbs Tremor and 1100 lbs Raptor. I am considering an RSI Smartcap on the bed, which is very heavy, I think I read nearly 400 lbs, and possibly a Roofnest Sparrow2 pop up tent on top of that, and adding in other things into the bed, I'm concerned the Raptor might be butt heavy, might sag. Most Raptor overland youtubers don't mention that but a few do, and they opted to add leafs or I think one said heavier springs to the rear of the Raptor to alleviate that sag, but then I'd be concerned that would sacrifice that wonderful buttery smooth drive of the Raptor. Do you have any thoughts on this payload, sagging concern? Because other than that, I'd likely get the Raptor, still might but unsure. Thanks.
Tremor interior is amazing. I wasn't about to spend another $10,000 for leather, memory seat, slide middle counsel to a desk. Not worth it. I have the loaded tremor not the lariat model. It's a tremor and does its purpose
I think ford should just toss those raptors specs into the new tremor and give us a new off road truck with MSRV that’s in between top range raptor and Tremor at least it makes sense for the money and I believe the wide body and fender flares will make the Tremor more aggressive in the look and makes all of us happy. Plz keep the engine options also available we still love the V8 sound and it’s very American 🇺🇸 If you folks agree with me plz hit the like button. Thanks for the great content.
Next time can you compare the raptor to the tremor with the 402 package so can get a more even comparison
Twin tube rear shocks??? Are you sure??? Event the FX4 package give you monotube rear shocks. Just asking, I really hope you just misspoke that the Tremor has twin tube shocks. Not hating, Love your videos, just asking for clarification.
How is the engine bay on so many of these trucks so dirty??
Tremor vs lariat?
Hype, hype. Leaf springs in ALL type vehicles for over 80 years, now youtube salesmen suggesting something inferior about them.
We want ford f150 tremor vs ford f150 platinum
Plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Good review. Please talk slower :) I miss a bunch of your words.
I want a tremor. 02A
does tremor have front licker?
I think you have to order it.
When you gonna do F-350's.
Soon
Am looking for a new F-350. Lariat or above. Have a 2020, Silver 2 tone. 18000, miles. Seeking another Silver one. Seems like there are none on any lots. Indiana here. Nothing from Indianapolis to Kentucky.
Team Tremor here! LOL
I don't disagree with you overall but I'll say that it's unfortunate that you mis informed your audience about the squat on the Raptor. I assume that you made it up for effect? Either way you don't have to look far to see towing reviews on the Raptor and the squat basically levels the truck. Were you talking to those people that put front levelers on? In that case then yes the squat will be noticeable. Either way I suggest you do a little research before making incorrect statements. I agree with the rest of your view and generally appreciate your content. Good job overall
Did he say the tremor doesn’t have a V8 ??
No-he said you can get it in a 5.0L V8 but he hasn't driven one with it.
10% that don't tow or haul? LMAO!!!!!!! Try 60-70 percent that spends $65.000 or more for trucks that are not for commercial usage.
Both Are Overated and Overpriced Status Symbols!
Couldnt give me a ecoboost engine things are so trash its embarrassing
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