Thank you for your video, it was 100% accurate and was a relief to hear someone share. I was raised a JW but left at 19 because I didn't believe the "Truth" and hated telling others their religion was false. Between 19 and 40 I struggled terribly with awful self esteem and I kept to myself because I didn't want to "infect" others with my disbelief. Learning what Religious Trauma Syndrome is has been life changing, thank you for helping spread the actual "truth" about the WTBS being a high control cult. It's evil and everyone should be given the chance to practice consentingly, not out of fear or lack of support.
This is all true. I woke up October 2021. The trauma still haunts me. I was born into this religion, 3rd generation. Here I am at the age of 47 and awake. Thank you for your kind presentation of what we go through coming out of the organization.
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
This was a profound episode. As a born in, also 3rd gen, from a very strong (elders and former Bethelites and CO) and well known family in this area who left 25 years ago, I only in the last 5 years really woke up. While I had worked through lots of this without knowing it, I still deal with a few of these things occasionally now. All of these things happen to us for sure. Traumatic is a bit of an understatement when this happens. Sad as it sounds, I had mourned the loss of my family when I was DF’d and have now lost my mother and grandparents since and didn’t really have to grieve at their deaths because I already had when they rejected me 25 years ago. My heart goes out to all of us who are forced to go through this. Stay strong, life DOES get better with work and time. ❤.
Thank you for this video! This is so true! There is a VERY high price to pay, when you leave but there is a VERY VERY high price to pay if you stay. It is tough to realize that the people, who you thought loved you, could discard you so easily. It takes INCREDIBLE strength to leave this!
I was a born in. Indoctrinated at birth. I was a good little jw for quite a few years. I was baptized at 8 years old. Then I started waking up in my teenage years. The years when I noticed that I had to be careful what I asked. I started making plans when I would get away from the religion/cult. To get away, it is difficult to just stop, cold turkey. I knew the consequences. That is scary when you are living at your parent's home. I knew that I would be doing that until I graduated from high school. So, I had to plan my escape. I would need to trick everyone. The term PIMO wasn't invented yet, but that's what I was. That is probably why it wasn't as traumatic for me as many others. I planned it for years. Then, the time came. I had a decent job, (which is crucial). Not the best job but one where I could support myself. I poured myself into the job. That is important when you leave the watchtower because you will need to focus on something. Your job. A hobby. Something. Anything but watchtower, or the people still in it. That is my advice to any born in that wants to leave. Plan ahead. Prepare yourself for what you know will happen. Prepare for the worst. I made plenty of worldly friends. You need to do that because you will likely lose the ones you had in "The Truth". I had to keep the worldy friends I had made, a secret. The less the congregation knows about you the better. That habit of being secretive has stayed with me to this day. The so called "friends" of jehovah witnesses are not really your friends. They will turn you in to the elders in a heartbeat. Answer NO personal questions they may ask. If they think you consider them a friend, they think it gives them permission, no, a right to ask you anything personal. Once you escape, after a time you will fade into a distant memory. It's a good feeling.
I did something kinda like this, except I didn't have a job when I left because I wasn't allowed to get one. But thankfully my worldly friends helped me stay afloat and not be homeless. My JW parents wanted to leave me to die when they found it, but unfortunately for them I already had help LOL. So happy to be free now! Never going back!
Congratulations! You are a very intelligent and courageous person. I admire you! Wish you the best in all your paths and life decisions! You are free- now you have that gift that Gid gave us: free will! 🥰
45 years LATER! Still the nightmares if I see the JWs. I think I’m fine but then the panic comes. The PTSD. Losing family, the deaths afterwards, not being able to speak with family, divorce, god I was only 28. I’m old now. I experienced everything: loss of home, wildness and rebellion, having to learn job skills, higher education, homelessness, no real love, grief, deaths, and you’re so right: couldn’t get close. Had no experience. I panicked in churches and no one “got it”. I was a “yes”person, did anything to please yet had no trust! Made SO many mistakes. Tried to please bosses but ended up telling them off because I refused to ever conform again Everything you say is TRUE! I had no identity! I fought every relationship in my life. There was no doctor or counselor to understand then. I feared God so badly! I decided to go back but the elders made it so hard: they had to continue the shunning for a year, I had to be watched for participation and smiling and sheepishness, they required a detailed letter saying how I failed in the world and wanted PRIVATE DETAILS! I couldn’t do it and my JW bro yelled at me and that was it. I realized I could NOT go back to that. All that trauma because I bought a tiny xmas tree. And was not in agreement with letting my child die instead of getting a blood transfusion. I opted for life and celebration. I recall my kids and I celebrating Xmas in my car because we had no home. In the 70’s we sold our homes. Armageddon preparation. Oh Sir, it was a true nightmare. YET...now I’m “old”, and my children are loved and they love me. I have an apt, we saw one another through life, all is well, I became a career person, never earned a lot of money but made it through to retirement. And the kids and I all laugh and believe our assorted versions of God and life as behooves our ages. There is respect, love and integrity in our lives. And nothing and no one can ever come between me and mine ever again. We have not only survived but are quite successful and good people whom God loves, no doubt about it. Though nightmares still come, they also go. Because I awaken each morning saying: “Thank You Jesus! This is a day that my Lord had made and I will REJOICE and be GLAD in it!” ❤
I’m the same age and went through all this except my mother became an atheist but the rest of my family are JWs. In my mid twenties I got involved with a “medium” and boy do I have stories to tell. I’m Christian now on my own accord and have faith in god regardless of a religious group or following. There are many non-religious manipulative people on top of growing up in a church filled with manipulation. It’s tiring to be reaching your 30s and grasping with an all consuming anxiety and coming to terms with accepting self love and teaching yourself boundaries and healthy communication in any kind of relationship. I’d rather have freedom of expression and choices instead of a church that dictates your entire life and personality.
@@wildcaptivation as a result of the religious messes, my younger son is an atheist. I don’t blame him at all. I respect his time and Right. I do blame myself for not having all the wisdom for my family that now, at a later age, I have. I think we have to have experiences first. Then comes wisdom, if at all. Your story sounds fascinating, do you plan on writing it? I’d love to read it or hear it. I’m so glad you see, I think you’ve attained wisdom already. I follow Jesus, no man will I ever follow again. I totally understand. Good for you! ♥️
All of this is so spot on! I wish I had this video when I was first waking up in 2018, but I’m happy it’s available for those waking up now! Please don’t ever take this down. I will be saving it to pass on to others as needed. Also, I think this is a great video to show “worldly“ people, because I have great difficulty trying to help them understand that leaving JW’s is not just “leaving your church“. The trauma is unbelievable.
Well done Sir. This was very thorough. Blew my mind at how accurate this all was. The Real Truth is life goes on and we can all still build our own future and happiness have meaning, and awesome relationships without overbearing religion, fear mongering and dictating every aspect of our lives.
Thank you for this subject. My jw parents are Latinos and I’ve tried to explain this subject to them and why I am so diligent with therapy! It almost seems impossible for them to grasp this idea of religious trauma
Thanks Jack. This was helpful. I am an inactive JDub. Mostly because my mum is old and needs care. And still active. My siblings all are out. I would want to also. But I feel the bible says to take care or our elders. This is leading to lots of conflict. And lots of loneliness and anxiety. But hearing I am not insane. It helps .
WOW!!!!! Thank you so much Jacek!!!! This is a masterclass in RTS. I left 23 years ago and I didn't understand what happened to me during 10 years. I was coping all alone. Greetings from Sweden! 🇸🇪
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
I was born Jehovah’s Witness , and on Aug 12th, 2021, I prayed to Jehovah letting him know how much this religion has hurt my heart. Since I was born I’ve been told that God was going to destroy all who were not witnesses. I couldn’t do it anymore I prayed to God letting him know all the damage this religion has done in my life....I told God that all I wanted was his love not paradise especially knowing all the non-witnesses that I loved were dead and I would gladly give my life in exchange for my children that are not witnesses. I told him I could no longer assist meetings because this religion is making me think badly of him. I remember yelling in my head how I couldn’t understand how a loving God could do this knowing our imperfections...I was sobbing, overwhelmed with grief when all of a sudden I had a thought of : I would never hurt anyone. I felt it down to my bones, I instantly calmed down and felt at peace. That night as I was laying down, my whole body started with intense waves of vibration, I started to sit up and it kept going, then I just had this knowing not be afraid and I just relaxed and immediately I started seeing all these lights and I was in a tunnel of light. I kept thinking if my husband turned around I was going to be sparkling! Then I was inside of this most amazing light that was filling me with so much love, fractals of light were coming towards me and all I could hear was I love you, you are loved over and over again. I felt all the pain and hate and hurt melt from my core, I was just floating there in unimaginable love and bliss, I remember being asked if I wanted to stay and I thought of my kids and then it just melted away and I was sitting in bed. I was drunk with Gods love for 2 weeks, I was healed from a full body skin illness I had been suffering for 3 years. I haven’t been back to any meetings since. Haven’t spoken to any elders about what happened just my mom and husband her reaction was not surprising, immediately told me to talk to an elder. I know they will say it was demonic, but how can a love so complete not be from something so pure? Because of this experience, I started researching and was blown away by THOUSANDS of accounts of others who have had this out of body experience called NDE or STE, I’m telling you it’s mind blowing how death has been held over us. Everyone says the same thing: God is not Judging us WE are!!! I still pray and feel Gods Holy Spirit with me something I had never felt in the Kingdom Hall! I just want others to know that God is not in the religious buildings/kingdom hall he is in our hearts everywhere we go, always. He does not give us the spirit of fear, anything in the Bible that causes fear is a misinterpretation. Jesus came to free us from the lies and it’s happening again, we are the new scrolls...the countless witnesses of how religions are a snare! Jesus said it was done! He didn’t say now we have to follow another religions rules to inherit the kingdom! My Father and I share the same will that ALL WILL BE SAVED!
Wow! What an experience! Each one of us go through a lot of things and experience that we can not understand or that some can’t believe! We learn to respect each others experiences after leaving the watchtower (because while you are a JW they show you to be judgemental). Wish you the best in your life and your path! Be happy, be free and be a better person everyday (it’s an everyday action) to you, to your family, to your new friends and neighbors and you will feel so happy!
Wow they really do a number on you, there needs to be a support group all I can do is to pray for you guys, I can remember my friends and family to not talk to JW cause they were a cult, but the ones I grew up with were not to serious about it
After 50 years of being brainwashed I "looked behind the curtain" and saw the lies I was out of there, fast. Felt completely free. I even regular pioneered 23 years but once you know how culty the organization is its easy to get out. Im so sorry you went through all that emotional trauma. I never had that.
For me, the trauma was in coming to grips with that fact my family didn't love me, and my entire childhood had been a lie. But leaving those assholes was easy as pie! Lol
Studied. Came in when 20ish. Had serious depression. The study itself was pleasant. I think it was like having a community (friends) and gave a stability I need. It is like living in a cave. Possibilities all limited by residing in this cave. Finances, what one does, learning to relate to others all limited. I felt freedom learning TTATT but the aftermath is not good. That is the weight and the stress I now carry. Thanks for your all your efforts. I have listened to the full circle including individuals who had been fully indoctrinated preachers such as Bart Ehrman et al. Some of MythVision- those he interviews as well as others who have left high control group. Cannot devote as much time as I would like to in looking behind the curtain. But enough!! I might add I do get a bit depressed and feel no way out. Not always in a mindset.
Totally understand. What one person stated was that they secretly planned the escape out for a very long time: finances, job security, etc. I wish I had done that. I thought that’s the best advice I’ve heard. God bless you, truly. ❤
Thank you for this video. I left JW 4 years ago and things were good for a long while. But now I am utterly depressed. And I see how much of this feeling is rooted in my indoctrination. 😢 Thank you for sharing this!
True this . I’m forty’s , I left JW at 15 born and baptised . I still have trauma response the same as I did a child when it thunders and lightning storms , is it Armageddon programmed with fear . I am happy joyous and free today but the trauma can not be ignored . Thankyou for sharing this video 💜
Everything you said was exactly true thank you for uploading this video. The journey I'm now on is tough. My goal is to rebuild my life and make friends, maybe a person to love would be nice. I'm gay and so this is going to be exciting and scary. Imagining actually being in love with some I'm attracted to is unbelievable. I have been so self loathing my whole life. It's almost impossible to imagine there being nothing wrong with me and being free to find a partner 😭 I gotta subscribe because you pegged it so hard so to speak.
I am so destroyed ... I don't know how I have been able to keep going on .... I'm a strong person but it's been devastating.... I'VE HAD ZERO SKILLS which does not Protect me... hahaha so I'm dead ... I have nothing .. I thank you for helping me get thru another moment... I was promised alot... but I'm dead... so if I'm dead... I may as well be.... so I wish I was dead... great. Well ... DRUGS HELP😊
Please don’t give up. I hear you! Read my story in the general comments. We ALL feel like this. You are very much alive and you matter! I know. I was told too that I was dead by them. Please get angry. Underneath the depression is anger. They are a cruel cult but that is all they are. Stagnant and sour. Life is just Beginning for you I promise! ❤🌹🙏🏻
My depression came as a result of my phone being hacked by an elder or elders, and they using text messages i sent to my son with reference to my job, and sending back the information to my job. EVIL, DEMONIC People.
That is one of the problems of cults: you have JWs checking on you, watching you! Sometimes I thought it was not the Jehovah was watching me, but the congregation was the one always judging, always pointing fingers! Its evil!
Sexual dysfunction doesn’t equal dead bedrooms in married couples. It can. But thats not it. Its guilt because we are beat down as children with the very clear message that sex is disgusting, unclean, sinful. This can cause many issues including being afraid of your own body, afraid of other bodies, or on the other end of the spectrum, unsafe sex with multiple partners, being easily groomed/taken advantage of, SA, abusive relationships, etc etc
I left in 20p2 and I have still.nightmares, that I must deliver ralk, that I am revealed as inactive and then I realize no no I am not JW! Yet in dream realize it. Strange🙈
I get that too. After I got out, I tried running around behind JWs and whoever would listen (even barging into my JW bro’s home) to save them through Jesus! It’s very hard to let go and let be. ❤
How can a parent choose to shun her own child over a religion that felt the pain to bring in the world that is the worse thing that could happen to a family it is cruel because of a CULT that they were BRAINWASHED into its trauma on both side so sad
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
Jesus is God not an angel -Jesus never lied because God can't lie -Jesus never did wrong God can only do good satan was a perfect angel yet him and demons still do evil
@@ferrous3262 Jesus is ALSO the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of GOD and different from Satan. Jesus is called Prince in Isa 9:6 and the hebrew word for Prince there also means PATRON ANGEL, and the exact same word used for the archangel in Dan 12:1 who is called the GREAT PRINCE. You think another angel is GREATER than Jesus?
You know what? No one wants to hear your blather right now. There are folks here who are suffering from what this religion/evil cult has done to them. Study Scripture another time. Listen to the Presenter of this podcast and see he’s talking human being and trying to talk people into seeing things will get better. For God’s Sake, allow people some space to heal. This is no time to fight over Scripture. Don’t be like the Pharisees and flout your stuff. Geez.
Thank you for your video, it was 100% accurate and was a relief to hear someone share. I was raised a JW but left at 19 because I didn't believe the "Truth" and hated telling others their religion was false. Between 19 and 40 I struggled terribly with awful self esteem and I kept to myself because I didn't want to "infect" others with my disbelief. Learning what Religious Trauma Syndrome is has been life changing, thank you for helping spread the actual "truth" about the WTBS being a high control cult. It's evil and everyone should be given the chance to practice consentingly, not out of fear or lack of support.
This is all true. I woke up October 2021. The trauma still haunts me. I was born into this religion, 3rd generation. Here I am at the age of 47 and awake. Thank you for your kind presentation of what we go through coming out of the organization.
You are an extremely courageous person
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
This was a profound episode. As a born in, also 3rd gen, from a very strong (elders and former Bethelites and CO) and well known family in this area who left 25 years ago, I only in the last 5 years really woke up. While I had worked through lots of this without knowing it, I still deal with a few of these things occasionally now. All of these things happen to us for sure. Traumatic is a bit of an understatement when this happens. Sad as it sounds, I had mourned the loss of my family when I was DF’d and have now lost my mother and grandparents since and didn’t really have to grieve at their deaths because I already had when they rejected me 25 years ago. My heart goes out to all of us who are forced to go through this. Stay strong, life DOES get better with work and time. ❤.
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Happy for you man. I left a year ago at the age of 32 and lost my sister and niece and nephew because I left peacefully... I still have episodes
Thank you for this video! This is so true! There is a VERY high price to pay, when you leave but there is a VERY VERY high price to pay if you stay. It is tough to realize that the people, who you thought loved you, could discard you so easily. It takes INCREDIBLE strength to leave this!
I was a born in. Indoctrinated at birth. I was a good little jw for quite a few years. I was baptized at 8 years old. Then I started waking up in my teenage years. The years when I noticed that I had to be careful what I asked. I started making plans when I would get away from the religion/cult. To get away, it is difficult to just stop, cold turkey. I knew the consequences. That is scary when you are living at your parent's home. I knew that I would be doing that until I graduated from high school. So, I had to plan my escape. I would need to trick everyone. The term PIMO wasn't invented yet, but that's what I was. That is probably why it wasn't as traumatic for me as many others. I planned it for years. Then, the time came. I had a decent job, (which is crucial). Not the best job but one where I could support myself. I poured myself into the job. That is important when you leave the watchtower because you will need to focus on something. Your job. A hobby. Something. Anything but watchtower, or the people still in it. That is my advice to any born in that wants to leave. Plan ahead. Prepare yourself for what you know will happen. Prepare for the worst. I made plenty of worldly friends. You need to do that because you will likely lose the ones you had in "The Truth". I had to keep the worldy friends I had made, a secret. The less the congregation knows about you the better. That habit of being secretive has stayed with me to this day. The so called "friends" of jehovah witnesses are not really your friends. They will turn you in to the elders in a heartbeat. Answer NO personal questions they may ask. If they think you consider them a friend, they think it gives them permission, no, a right to ask you anything personal. Once you escape, after a time you will fade into a distant memory. It's a good feeling.
Wow you are REALLY a strong person! Good for you! You planned ahead and you are successful! I am so happy for you and respect you greatly!❤
I did something kinda like this, except I didn't have a job when I left because I wasn't allowed to get one. But thankfully my worldly friends helped me stay afloat and not be homeless.
My JW parents wanted to leave me to die when they found it, but unfortunately for them I already had help LOL.
So happy to be free now! Never going back!
Congratulations! You are a very intelligent and courageous person. I admire you!
Wish you the best in all your paths and life decisions! You are free- now you have that gift that Gid gave us: free will!
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45 years LATER! Still the nightmares if I see the JWs. I think I’m fine but then the panic comes. The PTSD. Losing family, the deaths afterwards, not being able to speak with family, divorce, god I was only 28. I’m old now. I experienced everything: loss of home, wildness and rebellion, having to learn job skills, higher education, homelessness, no real love, grief, deaths, and you’re so right: couldn’t get close. Had no experience. I panicked in churches and no one “got it”. I was a “yes”person, did anything to please yet had no trust! Made SO many mistakes. Tried to please bosses but ended up telling them off because I refused to ever conform again Everything you say is TRUE! I had no identity! I fought every relationship in my life. There was no doctor or counselor to understand then. I feared God so badly! I decided to go back but the elders made it so hard: they had to continue the shunning for a year, I had to be watched for participation and smiling and sheepishness, they required a detailed letter saying how I failed in the world and wanted PRIVATE DETAILS! I couldn’t do it and my JW bro yelled at me and that was it. I realized I could NOT go back to that. All that trauma because I bought a tiny xmas tree. And was not in agreement with letting my child die instead of getting a blood transfusion. I opted for life and celebration. I recall my kids and I celebrating Xmas in my car because we had no home. In the 70’s we sold our homes. Armageddon preparation. Oh Sir, it was a true nightmare. YET...now I’m “old”, and my children are loved and they love me. I have an apt, we saw one another through life, all is well, I became a career person, never earned a lot of money but made it through to retirement. And the kids and I all laugh and believe our assorted versions of God and life as behooves our ages. There is respect, love and integrity in our lives. And nothing and no one can ever come between me and mine ever again. We have not only survived but are quite successful and good people whom God loves, no doubt about it. Though nightmares still come, they also go. Because I awaken each morning saying: “Thank You Jesus! This is a day that my Lord had made and I will REJOICE and be GLAD in it!” ❤
I’m the same age and went through all this except my mother became an atheist but the rest of my family are JWs. In my mid twenties I got involved with a “medium” and boy do I have stories to tell. I’m Christian now on my own accord and have faith in god regardless of a religious group or following. There are many non-religious manipulative people on top of growing up in a church filled with manipulation. It’s tiring to be reaching your 30s and grasping with an all consuming anxiety and coming to terms with accepting self love and teaching yourself boundaries and healthy communication in any kind of relationship. I’d rather have freedom of expression and choices instead of a church that dictates your entire life and personality.
@@wildcaptivation as a result of the religious messes, my younger son is an atheist. I don’t blame him at all. I respect his time and Right. I do blame myself for not having all the wisdom for my family that now, at a later age, I have. I think we have to have experiences first. Then comes wisdom, if at all. Your story sounds fascinating, do you plan on writing it? I’d love to read it or hear it. I’m so glad you see, I think you’ve attained wisdom already. I follow Jesus, no man will I ever follow again. I totally understand. Good for you! ♥️
All of this is so spot on! I wish I had this video when I was first waking up in 2018, but I’m happy it’s available for those waking up now! Please don’t ever take this down. I will be saving it to pass on to others as needed. Also, I think this is a great video to show “worldly“ people, because I have great difficulty trying to help them understand that leaving JW’s is not just “leaving your church“. The trauma is unbelievable.
Very good idea! I still have a niece and her husband inside! Will save this video for them.
Well done Sir. This was very thorough. Blew my mind at how accurate this all was. The Real Truth is life goes on and we can all still build our own future and happiness have meaning, and awesome relationships without overbearing religion, fear mongering and dictating every aspect of our lives.
Thank you for this subject. My jw parents are Latinos and I’ve tried to explain this subject to them and why I am so diligent with therapy! It almost seems impossible for them to grasp this idea of religious trauma
They will not get it. Don’t expect them to. Sorry you have to go through it. Maybe my videos can help a bit
Thanks Jack. This was helpful. I am an inactive JDub. Mostly because my mum is old and needs care. And still active. My siblings all are out. I would want to also. But I feel the bible says to take care or our elders. This is leading to lots of conflict. And lots of loneliness and anxiety. But hearing I am not insane. It helps
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WOW!!!!! Thank you so much Jacek!!!! This is a masterclass in RTS. I left 23 years ago and I didn't understand what happened to me during 10 years. I was coping all alone. Greetings from Sweden! 🇸🇪
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
Thank you. I’m glad I can help
I was born Jehovah’s Witness , and on Aug 12th, 2021, I prayed to Jehovah letting him know how much this religion has hurt my heart. Since I was born I’ve been told that God was going to destroy all who were not witnesses. I couldn’t do it anymore I prayed to God letting him know all the damage this religion has done in my life....I told God that all I wanted was his love not paradise especially knowing all the non-witnesses that I loved were dead and I would gladly give my life in exchange for my children that are not witnesses. I told him I could no longer assist meetings because this religion is making me think badly of him. I remember yelling in my head how I couldn’t understand how a loving God could do this knowing our imperfections...I was sobbing, overwhelmed with grief when all of a sudden I had a thought of : I would never hurt anyone. I felt it down to my bones, I instantly calmed down and felt at peace. That night as I was laying down, my whole body started with intense waves of vibration, I started to sit up and it kept going, then I just had this knowing not be afraid and I just relaxed and immediately I started seeing all these lights and I was in a tunnel of light. I kept thinking if my husband turned around I was going to be sparkling! Then I was inside of this most amazing light that was filling me with so much love, fractals of light were coming towards me and all I could hear was I love you, you are loved over and over again. I felt all the pain and hate and hurt melt from my core, I was just floating there in unimaginable love and bliss, I remember being asked if I wanted to stay and I thought of my kids and then it just melted away and I was sitting in bed. I was drunk with Gods love for 2 weeks, I was healed from a full body skin illness I had been suffering for 3 years. I haven’t been back to any meetings since. Haven’t spoken to any elders about what happened just my mom and husband her reaction was not surprising, immediately told me to talk to an elder. I know they will say it was demonic, but how can a love so complete not be from something so pure? Because of this experience, I started researching and was blown away by THOUSANDS of accounts of others who have had this out of body experience called NDE or STE, I’m telling you it’s mind blowing how death has been held over us. Everyone says the same thing: God is not Judging us WE are!!! I still pray and feel Gods Holy Spirit with me something I had never felt in the Kingdom Hall! I just want others to know that God is not in the religious buildings/kingdom hall he is in our hearts everywhere we go, always. He does not give us the spirit of fear, anything in the Bible that causes fear is a misinterpretation. Jesus came to free us from the lies and it’s happening again, we are the new scrolls...the countless witnesses of how religions are a snare! Jesus said it was done! He didn’t say now we have to follow another religions rules to inherit the kingdom! My Father and I share the same will that ALL WILL BE SAVED!
Wow! What an experience! Each one of us go through a lot of things and experience that we can not understand or that some can’t believe! We learn to respect each others experiences after leaving the watchtower (because while you are a JW they show you to be judgemental).
Wish you the best in your life and your path! Be happy, be free and be a better person everyday (it’s an everyday action) to you, to your family, to your new friends and neighbors and you will feel so happy!
Excellent! Thank you so much. I’ll be sure to watch your future videos
Every day has been a Nightmare even when I was in it every day....
I totally understand. Never give up! ❤
This is a BRILLIANT presentation...I finally know what to pray for 😢😢😢
Wow they really do a number on you, there needs to be a support group all I can do is to pray for you guys, I can remember my friends and family to not talk to JW cause they were a cult, but the ones I grew up with were not to serious about it
After 50 years of being brainwashed I "looked behind the curtain" and saw the lies I was out of there, fast. Felt completely free. I even regular pioneered 23 years but once you know how culty the organization is its easy to get out. Im so sorry you went through all that emotional trauma. I never had that.
For me, the trauma was in coming to grips with that fact my family didn't love me, and my entire childhood had been a lie. But leaving those assholes was easy as pie! Lol
Studied. Came in when 20ish. Had serious depression. The study itself was pleasant. I think it was like having a community (friends) and gave a stability I need. It is like living in a cave. Possibilities all limited by residing in this cave. Finances, what one does, learning to relate to others all limited. I felt freedom learning TTATT but the aftermath is not good. That is the weight and the stress I now carry. Thanks for your all your efforts. I have listened to the full circle including individuals who had been fully indoctrinated preachers such as Bart Ehrman et al. Some of MythVision- those he interviews as well as others who have left high control group. Cannot devote as much time as I would like to in looking behind the curtain. But enough!! I might add I do get a bit depressed and feel no way out. Not always in a mindset.
Totally understand. What one person stated was that they secretly planned the escape out for a very long time: finances, job security, etc. I wish I had done that. I thought that’s the best advice I’ve heard. God bless you, truly. ❤
Thank you for this video. I left JW 4 years ago and things were good for a long while. But now I am utterly depressed. And I see how much of this feeling is rooted in my indoctrination. 😢 Thank you for sharing this!
Excellent presentation! I look forward to your next video on RTS. Thank you so much .
True this . I’m forty’s , I left JW at 15 born and baptised . I still have trauma response the same as I did a child when it thunders and lightning storms , is it Armageddon programmed with fear . I am happy joyous and free today but the trauma can not be ignored . Thankyou for sharing this video 💜
Sir, thank you so much for this presentation!
It does take time. Hang in there!❤
Everything you said was exactly true thank you for uploading this video. The journey I'm now on is tough. My goal is to rebuild my life and make friends, maybe a person to love would be nice. I'm gay and so this is going to be exciting and scary. Imagining actually being in love with some I'm attracted to is unbelievable. I have been so self loathing my whole life. It's almost impossible to imagine there being nothing wrong with me and being free to find a partner 😭 I gotta subscribe because you pegged it so hard so to speak.
Wow. You nailed it my friend. I could almost believe you are an AI avatar designed for X JW therapy. Brilliant
@@purplejay8115 Thank you 🙏
Great Job
I am so destroyed ... I don't know how I have been able to keep going on .... I'm a strong person but it's been devastating.... I'VE HAD ZERO SKILLS which does not Protect me... hahaha so I'm dead ... I have nothing ..
I thank you for helping me get thru another moment...
I was promised alot... but I'm dead... so if I'm dead... I may as well be.... so I wish I was dead... great. Well ...
DRUGS HELP😊
Wow, quite a statement. I’ll make a video about this in the future. You can also contact me for personal coaching if you wish. Www.Feartofreedom.Ca
Please don’t give up. I hear you! Read my story in the general comments. We ALL feel like this. You are very much alive and you matter! I know. I was told too that I was dead by them. Please get angry. Underneath the depression is anger. They are a cruel cult but that is all they are. Stagnant and sour. Life is just Beginning for you I promise! ❤🌹🙏🏻
Being a Christian is suffering that requires endurance. People love to make up a reason not to endure life's disappointments.
My depression came as a result of my phone being hacked by an elder or elders, and they using text messages i sent to my son with reference to my job, and sending back the information to my job. EVIL, DEMONIC People.
That's straight up illegal. What congregation was it, and who were they if you don't mind sharing?
That is one of the problems of cults: you have JWs checking on you, watching you!
Sometimes I thought it was not the Jehovah was watching me, but the congregation was the one always judging, always pointing fingers! Its evil!
Sexual dysfunction doesn’t equal dead bedrooms in married couples. It can. But thats not it.
Its guilt because we are beat down as children with the very clear message that sex is disgusting, unclean, sinful. This can cause many issues including being afraid of your own body, afraid of other bodies, or on the other end of the spectrum, unsafe sex with multiple partners, being easily groomed/taken advantage of, SA, abusive relationships, etc etc
I left in 20p2 and I have still.nightmares, that I must deliver ralk, that I am revealed as inactive and then I realize no no I am not JW! Yet in dream realize it. Strange🙈
It’s called the dark night of the soul
I grew up with THE BURDEN OF SAVING everyone.... too much knowledge... Great! Lovely.... 👎 really sux... so
Anyway... thank you again!!
I get that too. After I got out, I tried running around behind JWs and whoever would listen (even barging into my JW bro’s home) to save them through Jesus! It’s very hard to let go and let be. ❤
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How can a parent choose to shun her own
child over a religion that felt the pain to bring
in the world that is the worse thing that could
happen to a family it is cruel because of a CULT
that they were BRAINWASHED into its trauma on
both side so sad
Can you believe that the org treats jdubs like children and the rank and file accept this.
@@linuxbobbles unless you grow out of it you don’t mind being treated as a child.
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
Jesus is God not an angel
-Jesus never lied because God can't lie
-Jesus never did wrong God can only do good satan was a perfect angel yet him and demons still do evil
@@ferrous3262 Jesus is ALSO the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of GOD and different from Satan. Jesus is called Prince in Isa 9:6 and the hebrew word for Prince there also means PATRON ANGEL, and the exact same word used for the archangel in Dan 12:1 who is called the GREAT PRINCE. You think another angel is GREATER than Jesus?
You know what? No one wants to hear your blather right now. There are folks here who are suffering from what this religion/evil cult has done to them. Study Scripture another time. Listen to the Presenter of this podcast and see he’s talking human being and trying to talk people into seeing things will get better. For God’s Sake, allow people some space to heal. This is no time to fight over Scripture. Don’t be like the Pharisees and flout your stuff. Geez.
@@ferrous3262you sound like a godamed WT JW.
@@christinesotelo7655 why would a wt jw say Jesus is God they deny the trinity
I wish more people could see this