Is Dark Souls 2 ACTUALLY Awful? - Dark Souls 2 Review 2023
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- Опубліковано 8 жов 2024
- Today we will find out if Dark Souls 2 is actually awful in this Dark Souls 2 Review 2023. Dark Souls 2 is the worst one according to many people, is Dark Souls 2 really that bad? I played the Dark Souls 2 Scholar of the First Sin edition. Dark Souls 2 in 2023 may not be popular but it's a sequel to Dark Souls which is considered the best. It may not have the best souls bosses but there are some good elements to it. So stay tuned and find out if Dark Souls is ACTUALLY awful in this Dark Souls 2 review 2023.
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Disagree on the powerstancing take. Its more fleshed out in 2 because you aren't limited by weapon types, you're instead limited by attack types. the different weapon combos you can do are sick
The Four Kings in DS1 don't come 1 by 1. They start ganking u if you're slow and don't kill them fast enough.
Yeah true but at least it takes some time, In dark souls 2 you’re immediately getting attacked by all of them.
Guys majula and chill
i hate how they just block pvp and the effing remastered version made it a ghost town at lower levels
Are we not gonna mention the amount of times they reuse boss enemies in this game? That one room with 6 Ruin Sentinels was just awful..
@@zescreed111 if reusing is your thing, remember that Elden Ring has around 238 bosses of which around 10 are unique 🤣✌️
The main reason for the problems DS2 has is also because Bandai Namco gave Fromsoft only a year and a half to develop it. this is primarily the reason why the game has so much cut content as well.
Yep it was also rushed. So much was stacked against them!
@@Jaobird Despite the time crunch the game turned out pretty amazing all things considered. Most games would normally get cancelled because of problems of this scale.
@@jarrettodom3943Yes ❤
rushed n still the best
No it’s because they had to start from scratch halfway through development because the first director made it nothing like Dark Souls. The new engine also wasted a little of time
21:20 Dark souls 1 never told me im going to die a lot.... Meanwhile the game is called Dark Souls: Prepare to die :D
Good point.....
Touché…,
Well that is only the old PC version, and you get the feeling that this was something done by publishers, rather than the designers.
remastered edition was a mistake
Dark souls and dark souls 2, less so with the base game and more with Scholar, just seem to be designed in a slightly different manner. Blood borne started development in 2012 along side dark souls 2, and the prepare to die edition of dark souls 1 released around this time as well. Seeing how people thought the first game was very hard a lot of the marketing around this time seemed to cling onto the “dying a lot theme” the only issue is I feel like this carried over into gameplay as well for dark souls 2.
In dark souls 1 you died a lot by design, whereas Dark souls 2 feels designed for you to die a lot (further compounded by scholar edition). 2 was the first game I played of the series and I like a lot about it, but it has severe issues caused by its short development and direction.
Man, you are underrated. Great video! I died so many times at the iron keep, the walk to the Smelter Demon no longer had enemies.
Glad you liked it! Thanks!
You don't need to kill them, just jump at the wooden stairs
I personally have enjoyed ds2 so far. At first, the weird controls and slow rolling was frustrating, but once I got properly into it, I really started to have fun exploring the world. It's the most intricate and dense worlds in the souls series to explore and the graphics make it very pretty.
Are you sure you played DS2 SOTFS ? You have to take every level as slow as possible because of the infinite gank squads, hidden enemies and unfair ambushes... only to get to a boss fight that will suck ass 80% of the time.. and don't you dare dying there to their stupid hitboxes or eye frames because the runback to the boss will drive you nuts, picking up aggro of all the gank squads that can actually kill you while trasversing the fog... SHIT game.. it's just BAD.. I love souls games, souls-like and From Software but I can't call this a good game just because I love souls, it is objectively bad
@@sebastian-sfX I don't understand gank fight issues most of them are weak enemies or they are extremely slow enemies not many gank fights are necessarily unfair or hard. In the video jaobird mentions the chariot run to the boss being hell honestly it is probably one of the hardest if not the hardest in the game and iron keep is a lovely grind spot lol idk why he had to cheese it most of them fight you 1on1 or alone and they ain't hard by any means
@@chaosjolteon3300 It's not about being hard, it's actually stupidly easy if you take levels slow enough haha, precisely the point is that the mobs are so dumbly made and so slow that the only way they could "replicate" the dark souls 1 challenge was to stack ambushes and ganks squads everywhere.. 90% of the boss fights in this game are a joke if you managed to level ADP until 25-39, because the whole "challenge" is the mechanics of the game, and not the bosses, nor any other enemies.. bosses which are cheaply designed with probably 3 or 4 different attacks in best case scenario, that are either slow af, or badly telegraphed animations that will hit you anyway 90% of the time even if you roll properly unless you maxed out ADP or 30+. I barely found any interesting boss fight after a stupidly made level that I could tell was made to annoy the player instead of creating a challenge..or interesting paths to navigate, like the bs NPC invasions everytime you step on a gank squad... the stupid scripted enemy ambushes that will start from behind after you cross X part, kill X guy or do X thing... this game was simply not fun at all for me... it is full of issues, bad coding, bad design and badly implemented "innovations" from ds1... which is 10x a better game than this bs.
@@sebastian-sfX I mean I personally love the game bosses are on the weaker end agreed but idk alot of these problems haven't really been a issue for me since I go for adaptability like yea it's a dumb stat but you level far more in ds2 so im fine with it as for annoying level design ds1 has some really stupid level design lol and a ton of bad bosses some are the worst in series. The game has flaws like I think the npc invaders are tedious but every souls game has some form of flaw and question when you play slowly wdym by that?
@@chaosjolteon3300 There is literally 0 improvements from ds1.. they rushed a game, added a bunch of recycled shit from old games that didn't fit DS world/lore at all and it tells from miles... then they designed a world that doesn't make sense if you look at the landscapes and how the levels are connected and filled it with dumb mobs and npcs that half or more are literally useless and have nothing to offer but an interaction.. I'm only 1 playthrough in this game and it felt so shit that I barely had fun for 50 hours, not even the DLCs could help it even if they are good.. doubt I can play it again and enjoy it unless I play caster, which I hate doing in DS... I guess my mistake was to play this game after playing pretty much every other soulsborne and decent souls-like out there
I don’t think Dark Souls 1 is a perfect game, it’s good, but with that second half, I can’t call it perfect.
Unfortunate that you couldn’t enjoy Dark Souls 2, I liked it, but it also isn’t my favourite, so I totally understand.
There’s a lot of disingenuous hate AND defense of ds2 but this video prolly resonates with me the most because I wouldn’t say ds2 is too cheap or difficult but its just extremely frustrating across the board
I agree, i didn't stop playing it because it was too hard, I stopped because I wasn't having fun.
try vanilla Dark Souls II
Trust me
I was the exact same, I hated DSII SotFS and never got far
Then I tried vanilla DSII and beat it entirely, DLC included (which are the best bits for sure)
@@blinkachu5275Yeah more people need to stop playing SotFS and play the OG version lol
@@TheNivek22 SotfS is literally easier though, with even less ganks. Watch any domo3000 video for proof.
@@blinkachu5275I’ve played og ds 2 and I still dislike it. If you like ds2 that’s cool but I’m sorry anyone that says scholar “ruins” it is weird bc they’re still fundamentally the same game imo and I have the same problems in both versions. Glorifying the og by shitting on scholar is exactly the kinda disingenuous defense of ds2 I hate
The first Dark Souls game I beat was actually DS2... But that was before they released SotFS. When I hear most people complain about DS2, its because they're playing DS2:SotFS... I understand why they are upset at it, but also... It makes me sad that it caused such a bad reputation.
I dont know how could someone play original when you have sotfs, like play better version, not original
@@Apophesit's not better. Way more ganks and unnecessary blocking of areas with the petrified statues. Aside from the graphical upgrades and torch mechanics it is objectively worse
Dark Souls 2 had this reputation even before Scholar
@@onemacshow3830The original game is more inconsistent and generally more boring. SOTFS has some annoyances and downright bad design, sure, but overall, it is better.
Everyone thinks they hate DS2 because of scholar. Scholar added way too many extra enemies and gank squads
I just dont get the hate on the fast traveling from the start. Like who the fuck loves the endless running in DS1 ?
But the reward of seeing areas interconnect in such crazy ways was super amazing in DS1, even in DS1 they design fell off after they introduced fast travel
Dude fuck the Smelter Demon lmao
I never thought a boss so simple could be so hard 😂
@@jl3303 right lol
yeah man, i tried so many time to beat it. But in the end i beat both of them.
Jump off to the platform staircase thing
tbh it’s the fault of iron keep. If he was in a better place, he would’ve been an enjoyable boss
If they remaster Dark Souls 2 with Dark Souls 3 effects, combat, atmosphere and graphics it would be one of the best souls game ever
What an awful awful take 😂😂😂
Said by someone that started the series with DS3
Never let bro cook again 💀
making a mediocre game pretty wont make it good
Ds2 have unique atmosphere and different combat feel and focus. Why make it the same as others. You end up with copy of a copy of a copy situation where it's just not as interesting.
If you want that feel just play DS3 or plenty of mods for it.
10:20 "Knights, knights, knights..."
DS2 has a number of cool looking bosses that are not knights at all: Last Giant, Executioners Chariot, Mytha, Rotten , Smelter Demon, Old Iron King, Demon of Song, Ancient Dragon, Giant Lord , Nashandra Sinh, the Slumbering Dragon... and I'm not even counting the re-skin ones from DS1.
Cool looking but not memorable unless you're huffing nostalgia.
@@tescobakery1927 of course they are. What are you on to?
'''cool looking bosses' and you start with Last Giant!?! yeah nah, you lost all credibility mate.
@@kreddit9480 nah, it's cool. In fact, it's so cool that DS3 reused its model. ;)
@@thulsa_doom Where, cause Yhorm looks nothing like it and the only thing that looks like it is the giant tree?
Dark Souls 2 is a bad game...period
How dare you being honest.
Didn't even mention blue smelter demon when talking about boss run backs 😩
it looks like he didn't find iron passage. he missed one area where you can clearly say ds2 is a shit game
DS2 is my fave of the series. Yeah the empty cubes are a bit of BS. Iron Keep is awesome. It's a straight up soul farm to help you level a LOT and if you skip the Smelter Demon and push through the second area you're set up for an easy run to the real boss with a summons. Have you forgotten the essential lesson of DS? You gotta GIT GUD.
Me to.
I don’t really like ds3 and it’s probably my least favourite due to build restrictions whilst everyone for ds2 I always have fun switching up my builds .
11:32 that's a lie. DS2 doesn't feel slower than DS1 at all. That is also a biased comparison footage. Of course it will feel faster when you are rolling on light load, like in that footage with Belfry Gargoyles. Look at how much stamina the player used. Against The Rotten the character is not rolling at all. Not even holding the sprint button. Of course you'll move slower like that. What a clown.
Ur blind
@@reeyees50 you are a fool
@@reeyees50 you are blind. Read my comment again and watch that bit again. Dude didn't hold the sprint button and then called it slow.
ds2 is the best
I'm sorry, but most of gank spots shown are becoming gank spots if you run around like a madman.
The floor is made out of floor.
There's one area where you can see a dog at the bottom of a drop, so I threw skulls around, tried to hit it with fireworks and arrows, then got tired and resigned myself to fighting it.
But there's a ladder in the next room that goes down to the same floor, but with a wall between me and the dog, so I go down that ladder
The second my foot hits the floor, four f'ing dogs pop out of that room even though they can't see or hear me.
The start of this summer I've been playing base DS2 on my xbox 360, note, this is my first souls game ever. My experience with the game seems to be fun and amazingly challenging to me, In which I love. So yeah DS2 is a fun game to beginners
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@@Jaobird You're video did great btw, I'm not disagreeing with you at all, you've made good points your opinion doesn't gotta change either ❤️
Playing sly 2 music on a ds2 review, interesting
One of my favorites
@@Jaobird Sly 2 is my favorite game of all time.
Man why are you calling ranged battle cheesing that's obviously intended. I restock my arrows before I go to Shrine of Amana
Exactly,these dudes are morons
I never understood this take - playing ranged is a playstyle like any other, and it doesn’t mean it’s cheesy, it just happens to be the playstyle that makes *this* particular situation somewhat easier. Sometimes playing melee ranged is obviously going to trump ranged battle, and vice versa.
because it is? he obviously went with a melee build and the fact is that he was forced to do something outside of his intended playstyle in an absolutely cheap way just because the level design is that garbage makes that the definition of cheesing.
@@xaevius5319 bro he's using spells, including those that buff your weapon. Ds2 is the only game where you don't forget about existence of ranged options through entire playthrough. It breaks this elitist standard that you're a casul unless you beat a souls game using nothing but basic melee weapon, and it makes people angry. In fact, all pro gamers who have an actual in-depth knowledge of these games always use all sorts of tricks when they're doing no hit runs and other challenges, bow is particularly a must have in ds2 and it's totally fine.
Even so, enemies in Iron Keep and Shrina of Amana are very easy to deal with and you can even legit skip Smelter Demon, gameplay shown in this video is purposely trash to make the game look harder than it actually is.
@@multifleks " Ds2 is the only game where you don't forget about existence of ranged options through entire playthrough." so did other souls game. the souls game always gives you at least A bow every single time you play how the hell would you forget that? it not only gives you bows the game gives you stuff that are geared for the other classes in general. you can find chests or corpses where you can find the whole starting kit of a different class. if a melee guy really wanted to use a bow instead of his sword in a particular instance then he's free to do so, but in ds2's case it FORCES you to. there's a difference with "having a ranged option" like a bow in a game like with zelda and being forced to play ranged because the level design is that atrocious. to use the zelda comparison again, dark souls doesn't play like zelda it plays more like diablo. you pick a class and you max out on the specific stats only for that character, you're not gonna dump exp points on magic if you're playing warrior that's just wasted points that could've been strength. in these types of games a highly specialized build is absolutely way better than a half assed "all around build". yea sure you may not have a ranged (or at least a good one) attack in either diablo/dark souls but that is literally better than having a weak one. to add to that archer battles in ds2 are garbage. they are absolutely not fun at all. i have never played a hunter build or w/e it is that primarly uses bows/crossbows but for people who don't spec into that it's pretty terrible. i'm not using a sniper rifle in far cry nah im usually trading hits with a guy that can take like 20% of my hp.
" It breaks this elitist standard that you're a casul unless you beat a souls game using nothing but basic melee weapon, and it makes people angry." i dont speak for everyone in the "community", im not really "close" to them like that i just play the games, but i'm pretty sure it's less of a "standard" and more like that's the "default". me personally i tried playing pyro for a bit in ds1 after play warrior and it's an absolutely way different experience knowing you always have a ranged attack with you vs having none. to me, in a way i kinda of agree that melee is the "true" way to play dark souls, the way you fight enemies just has more nuance than if you have a ranged option at all times. no knock on ranged builds that's just my opinion, unless maybe i just don't know the "hidden beauty" of playing ranged builds yet. also, "nothing but a basic melee weapon"? yeah, cuz if you're that good at the game having a shield is more of a disadvantage than if you just two hand a weapon. in fact that leads me to the next point
" In fact, all pro gamers who have an actual in-depth knowledge of these games always use all sorts of tricks when they're doing no hit runs and other challenges" why are you even comparing to "pro gamers" to begin with? these are players that have beat the game, probably several times now, and are now looking for a new way to challenge themselves. they are going to play the most optimal way possible and possibly even use exploits, but that doesn't necessarily make it fun at least for people who play the game for the game itself and not for lowering the time they took to play the game. the game they're playing is way different from us normal or casual players. why would that be a good measure for what we're mostly likely going to be talking about first time runs?
and to top it off, look at my second to last sentence, i mentioned "normal or casual players" didn't I? It's funny how you talked about other players having an "elitist standard" when the standard of players that you go by is what you called "pro gamers" on dark souls. i love how people like you don't even see how royally you contradict yourselves with your own statements. it's alright if we go by pro gaming standards if it's the bow but not for the sword right?
"bow is particularly a must have in ds2 and it's totally fine." no it's not fine and it is only because the game is designed like crap. i could only count ONE instance in ds1 wherein you couldn't beat an enemy melee and that was the archer in duke's archives.
"Shrina of Amana are very easy to deal" tell me when either they remove the knee deep water in that level or the homing nature of the magic missiles or the amount of mages you need to kill and THEN i might say it becomes easy.
I just recently finished a playthrough of DS2 vanilla for the first time and can 100% say it's better than the SOTFS version of the game.
Yeah I gotta get into it. I heard they’re shutting down the multiplayer soon though which sucks.
Most people only like original more than sotfs cause they get ganked and recked alot. It's as simple as this.....git gud
@@asmith7651 oh wow, it's almost like designing ganks in a game where fighting multiple enemies is a terrible idea is bad game design. wow. how bout you git better taste in games?
@@xaevius5319 it's only a gank if you try to run past everything like in other souls games
@@grrrr255 it's a gank if i go inside a building in lost bastille and literally like 8 mobs aggro on me and chase me through the door. ds2 is designed like crap. deal with it. the people who designed this game are like kids from mario maker who just spam enemies.
Real games have gank squads and you need to learn spacing and fundamentals. Folks thinking everything needs to be a 1 on 1 duel is a wrong opinion.
The Four Kings…did NOT come on one by one.
I just spent the last 2 hours proving that through about 20 tries, over and over again. No matter how good I got at fighting each one, once the health got down to a about a third of the bar, they all just started gang banging me (or gang-ganking me) and there’s just no way to fight that fairly without being a tank (which is how I beat them easily on my first play through-full Havel Armor, Great Club 15).
In fact, you describing the ganking aspect of DS2 made me think of exactly the Four Kings. I quit this play through of the first one because of how that boss is, and since you are describing the whole second game as being this exact same incredibly unfair thing, I just decided I will not be playing 2.
(Like the Gargoyles and S and O, this would have been very doable with a Summons. But apparently that’s not even available unless you called her for the butterfly, which I didn’t).
I literally almost changed my Like to a Dislike just from you saying that one incredibly BS falsity.
When i fought the 4 kings I only had to fight one at a time
@@Asylusit's all about DPS, and if you stay close to them, they'll make less damage (I suppose it's because they hit you with their arms and not the swords)
you have a shitty build, just stay very close to them and be aggressive and your damage should win, they spawn every 40 seconds so if you cant kill one of them in 40 seconds then do a better build
@@alfonswtykaczin ds1 it’s easy to miss crucial upgrade items and not have your weapons maxed at this point. Also the hitboxes for this boss don’t make sense - if you up close they deal like 3 times less damage and you can just rank everything. What an awful boss design
@@alexgoncharov6430 its designed this way because the game wants to punish you as hard as it can for not being aggresive
Using a great sword and saying the game is slow , bro are u for real
This review should not focus on Dark Souls 2 but on the "scholar of the first sin" version, and put it into the title as well. All your rant is basically coming from the differences between these two versions...
What’s the difference between the two? Scholar of the first sin just has the DLCs come with it as far as I’m aware.
@@Mr.Spade1 Not only the DLCs but also the design changes that make the game much more filled with quantity over quality.
@@realquiller Really? I never noticed the difference
please please from soft ware, never remaster dark souls 3, they always sucked ass
i know this was posted months ago but that's just incorrect, scholar mostly just moved enemies around so they're more spaced out and there's more 1v1 encounters compared to vanilla which had less encounters but you were almost always outnumbered, and it only added like 1-2 enemies per area where they felt empty
It’s true, DS2 is a mediocre game with a lot of fundamental design issues. For me, it just doesn’t feel quite right.
I recently got the platinum trophy and I’d personally put it below average and ok at best. You can tell they put a lot of effort into it, but the experience is ultimately squandered by the myriad of poor design choices in the game. From the bad to mediocre bosses, the mostly forgettable areas, ADP, bad hitboxes, bad lock on, bad tracking and path finding, bad enemy placement, bad enemies, bad enemy AI, boring and un engaging world, and fragrant branches of Yor make it a frustrating and unfun experience
Yep an overall just below average game that has its moments but mostly is frustrating. Thanks for commenting and watching :)
@@Jaobird I remember you mention Human Effigies, where the health reduction also has the opposite problem. If you get the Ring of Binding in Heide’s Tower of Flame, it reduces the health reduction. So the problem is that newer players will have a harder time getting human effigies and will lose them very quickly while veterans or experienced players will immediately go for the Ring of Binding. The ring of binding reduction should have been the default health reduction. That way it’s a little more fair and allows the maximum health reduction to stop at a 25% reduction.
Yes all is bad and you are perfect, try making just the system where you can see if you actually hit hitboxes, its very hard, And hidetake was just supervising ds2 because he was making bloodborne, the guys did amazing job considering they only took DEMONS and DS1 as inspiration, you dknt have to play ds2 ever ever, no one asked you to, be gratefull for what we got as thete is no elden ring dlc coming soon.
@@felaz7155 oh look I made a DS2 stan mad. If they can make good hitboxes in the previous game, then they can very much do the same with DS2, but they didn’t and failed at that.
To me it seems like ds2 was hurting your frontal lobe a little too much, the hp loose was gradual, in demon souls it was 50% after first death or with ring of clinging 70% so your "more fair" statement doesnt make any sense as you can only go between the game being harder or easier, the game doesnt become "more fair" by item.
I started playing Dark Souls 2 after everyone I know told me not to, and now I'm completely lost. I have no clue where to go. I got multiple keys, and every time I tried to open a door, I found it locked.
what area are you at?
@wolfcountry6663
Honestly, I don't remember the names of the areas, but after returning to Majula, I spoke to an NPC and paid her some souls. Then she opened a new area for me, where I met another NPC named Felkin. After that, I decided to take a break and stopped there.
@@KODash-yn7ft sorry it too so long to reply but it sounds like your at the dark root basin theres bosses in that area only 1 of them is mandatory the skeleton lords just hook up a video on dark root basin and you should be good to go
@@KODash-yn7ft forest of fallen giants is the go to first area. Its boss is a slow Giant. It's a bit of a pain to get the area mapped out in your head and understand what's important, but it's a good starter kit. There's a lot of shiny in here that oftentimes isn't worth it but you can get a feel for the style of combat here.
@@wolfcountry6663dark root basin is in DS1, not DS2
Man, dark souls 2 is such a unique game.. I like it but I don’t know why the others don’t. I mean, some part of the game can be really unreasonable like a swing of difficulty or enemies placement and DLC. But I still like it anyways
"Dark souls 1 has some amazing bosses" yeah ok "best fight is in the dlc" so in every fromsoftware game? Also git gud
Two words: skill issue.
My mate, Smelter Demon is entirely optional. About Shrine of Amana, it's all about proceed with caution. I can't remember the last time I died there - even without arrows.
how bout instead of "proceeding with caution" and taking literal hours just so you can cheese every single mage, why not just create a better designed area that's not out to shoot you with homing magic missiles while trudging through water? imagine thinking wanting to have fun and have wanting to have an engaging level design is a "skill issue" thing.
@@xaevius5319 how come I don't die there without arrows, cheesing anything, or despawning enemies? And I'm not an extraordinary player whatsoever.
@@thulsa_doom you can expend your time to waste it on a terrible designed area that never needed to be that obtuse in the first place. that's your reason.
@@xaevius5319 why do you think it's so bad?
@@thulsa_doom cuz it's an area that has a ton of mages that can shoot you from 30 feet away that have homing magic missiles that force you to try to kill them but they're set up in a way wherein if you go and try to kill one you're at the range of another. you kill one, then you immediately need to kill the other one and then the other one guarding that other one. you are always in the immediate kill range of another mage tbh, while this is annoying, the part that makes it infuriating is the water terrain as well as the little monsters that are hidden from you. the water is dark too wherein you can accidentally fall because you didn't see you were at the edge and you can't consistently carry a torch cuz dodging with it in water snuffs it out. it is just plain not fun. it is not challenging nor rewarding having to constantly run and kill mages 30 feet away from you while going through the slow water. i am honestly surprised how you're not viewing any of this to be true.
The suffering of a mans first time in Frigid Outskirts, simply revitalizing
I would love if they remade ds2. Scholar exists, yes, but i mean like a proper remake. Adjust mechanics, bosses, areas, enemies, etc.
If they remade ds2 with 60% less enemies and removed adp then I think it would significantly improve the experience
Its hilarious to hear people complaining about dying. And adaptability is worthless.😅
Sure but that's not an argument in my opinion. I've experienced nonsense registered hits from enemies in DS3 and elden ring. It's just something to get used to.
@Divzieor attempt upgrading adaptability.
@Divzieyou have to level ADP to fix hitboxes
@AKidWithGlasses ok but dark souls 2 hit boxes are bad ON PURPOSE I shouldn't have to level up and waste my souls on something that I got to use for free in the first game that argument you made is trash lil bro
@@coolguychapman6685 ..... But you just admitted that it's not a issue of hitboxes then... Bruh
(Edit: who the hell unironically says "lil bro" 🗿☠️)
Bro the smelter demons isn't that hard , just don't run and get surrounded by enemy and that start blaming the game and about the boss get a 100% fire dmg
Forgot about Ds 1 runbacks? like Nito, Capra Demon, Quelaag, Bell Gargoyle, Four Kings, Sif, Seath, Bed of Chaos and more had even worse runbacks in my opinion but no one talks about them
Nito he was not the greatest
Capra demon is pretty fast to get to you unlock a shortcut really close that links to firelink shrine
Qualaag was fine if you got the bonfire down there the poison wasnt that bad if you got purple moss from the darkroot garden or from a merchant you could cure it
Bell gargoyles once you unlock the elevator it's not hard just kill the few hollow or run past them and you are at the boss
Four kings you could jump down the side where the first 2 ghosts appear and just run to the boss from there just avoid 2 dark wraiths and thats it
Sif become friends with hunters covenant and you have a free pass to sif
Bed of chaos I hate bed of chaos
That doesn't make ds2 better
Capra, nito, and bed of chaos are the only truly awful ones be honest
A lot of the running back in DS1 was asinine tbh. It only becomes bearable when you access the Lordvessel, but even then, the bonfires are far and few in between that run backs can still takes a decent amount of time.
there's no insane amount of mobs in between them with bs placements as well as interrupting my entering mist animation in ds1 tho? so you don't really have a point. i would rather take 20 seath runbacks, artorias runbacks, bed of chaos runbacks over 10 iron passage runbacks.
It was messy, but it's " FromSoftware messy", i still enjoyed DS2 for its shortcomings. Gives you different vibes than the other series, and one more thing : Majula is far better than Firelink Shrine! There i said it! 😂
Actually yeah you're right now that I think about it, Majula has to be the best hub out of all the games. Its just so relaxing looking at the ocean as the music is playing. Also, whenever you have a chance, check out my new video - Thanks! ua-cam.com/video/2owrXx0r260/v-deo.html
Did you even bother to level adaptability lmao? DS2 has the series most op dodge roll and fastest flask animation if you level ADP
I did level it up, the game became pretty easy afterwards.
doesn't excuse the mere fact of its existence. why even have s and basic essential animations like estus drinking tied to a stat? that's ridiculous
Well... at least DS2 has the best main menu theme of the franchise.
nah i prefer ds1 and ds3, sekiro is the worst one for sure
i feel like backstabbings better in ds2 as it isn't low risk high reward like in ds1
When you are a part of the covenant of champions, iron keep is worse because now the knights can see you before you even cross the bridge and get swarmed the moment you walk inside.
Dark Souls II DLC's challenge areas are the only places that made me give up.
Using a ranged option to take out enemies is "cheesing"? What a shit take. I never dropped below like 60 human effigies what were you doing so that they were scarce??? The best fight in the game being in a DLC is a problem? Is that a problem in DS3 too then? The turn based argument is the worst by far. Sure DS2 combat ia slightly different but it's crazy to act like roll and then one or two R1 attacks isn't the only way to fight bosses in souls games especially in 3 and if you use heavier weapons. Calling DS2 bland compared to the others is just reaching and desperate. 1 and 3 are just grey and dull in comparison. It's also funny how you play a fantasy game for immersion. Also having ADP at 39 or the game is harder is a straight up lie, try not to spread misinformation it takes away from your arguments. About 20 ADP gives you DS1 medium roll so stop the cap. Don't get me wrong, I agree DS2 has major flaws, but it also does so many things right that sets it apart from the other titles and redeems it. 1 had a lot of problems like HALF THE GAME being rushed garbage, people tend to romantisize that game because of nostalgia. I started playing DS2 a couple of months ago so I'm not defending it out of blind nostalgia. I played all other FS titles before it and I still consider it a masterpiece despite it flaws. Everyone should stop watching these videos and give it a try themselves. ADP is bad, some ganks are bad. But overall in my opinion DS2 was one of the best experiences I've had with a game ever.
so many things wrong in this one comment that just basically come down to you having shit taste in games.
@@xaevius5319 lmfao exactly what i was thinking
@@xaevius5319How?
@@sui-dr8nuHow?
Hes right though.@@xaevius5319
I’m currently about to finish a ds2 game, but here’s the thing. I somehow have the original version on steam, dlcs included, and the original is WAY easier than sotfs, less ganks, annoying areas a little less, and a much more bearable smelter demon. I think sotfs gives 2 it’s bad name.
Yeah I've been seeing people say the original is better, I gotta give that one a try. Maybe even give scholar another chance, play it the way it wants me to. Also, whenever you have a chance, check out my new video - Thanks! ua-cam.com/video/2owrXx0r260/v-deo.html
Somehow the smelter demon is harder than A FUCKIN LORD SOUL. Freja was moderately easy but the demon was just bent over on makin a Hub video with the player
It had better PvP than any Soulsborne game.
I just started this game. I'm level 34 and I love this game. Yes I died so many times oh glob
Ds2 broken unbalanced mess of a game with wonky controls.. your character cant even walk right
I have to admit, most of the stuff you mentioned I really didn't mind. My beef with the game is the limited co-op.
Thats fine you didn't mind my complaints, I wish I felt the same to be honest. I gotta just go back into it with an open mind see if my opinion changes. Also whenever you have a chance, check out my new video - Thanks! ua-cam.com/video/2owrXx0r260/v-deo.html
Wait…the sun in Anor Londo was fake ??
I dont wanna spoil you, just go with Gwynevere and shoot her, then see what happen
Yeah, if you kill gwynevere the illusion is broken and the sun dissapears.
Playing through ds1-ds3 before elden ring dlc drops and ds2 is such a giant piece of shit by comparison. Sotfs is just laughable with the enemy placement. The biggest issue though, is that ds2 s are non existent and are tied to ADP. Even when you level up ADP, you still barely feel the difference. Chugging of estus takes 23 days, you can get hit while opening chests and going through fog doors… etc. It goes against all the rules demon and ds1 set up. Fuck that game
There is a very simple way to master ds2: you must permanently clear the mobs otw to a boss fight. Kill em all 12 times. You'll get a lot of souls and an easy stroll to boss door
The problem with dark souls 2 isn't the story, or the locations, or the length, it's the fact that it's just not fun to play. The hitboxes suck, there's tons of ganks, the attack animations and sounds are unsatisfying, and you're just SO SLOW.
Everything else would be fine if the core game mechanics were fun, but they're not.
Cap
You got it. It's a chore to play. Literally no one would be talking about DS2 at all if it didn't have "Dark Souls" in the title. It would have been completely forgotten because it's actually not fun to play.
@@PerfectSense77 so many go to it now just to be contrarians to objective criticism. it is literally one of the worst designed games i've ever played and yet somehow we've got people around here who'll say ds2 is a "great" or "good" game or even that it's"objectively" better than either 1 or 3. absolutely ridiculous
skill issue
@@realize8405 yeah the skills of the developers
Yes it’s awful. It’s the worst of the series
I started DS2 on PS3. It was such a chore to play, unlike DS1, which was an occasional grind but still tons of fun.
The main problem of DS2 for me, is that they had to turn something as simple and fundamental as maneuveribility a math problem. It just brings the whole experience down to a grindring halt for casual DS players like myself, on top of its already painstaking overly grinding gameplay mechanic.
Coming back to playing DS2 on PS4/PS5, the experience is a little bit positive now. The technical performance of the PS3 version just made a bad game worse.
math problem... what?
14:00 what the hell is that point, it doesnt make any sense, obviously not all the players have the same experience, thats why even in dark souls 1 there are differents builds that change the game completely.
also, it being diferent doesnt mean its bad, its means not making the same game over oand over again.
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GIT GUD! Dark Souls 3 has way more ganking than DS2. The difference is that DS3 is an easy, baby game that lets you stagger enemies for breathing on them.
"git better taste in games" how bout that?
@@xaevius5319you have around 70 comments under this video bashing DS2. Get a life
@@grrrr255 ds2 is garbage that's just the truth. if you don't wanna get butthurt remove your eyes then.
@@xaevius5319 why would anyone want a supposed """better taste""" in gaming if all it does is make them enjoy less stuff?
@@grrrr255 so you're telling me people should dumb their brains down, lower their standards so they are able to consume slop more enjoyably and not have any self respect for themselves in having better? yeah bro just shut up, i don't even know wth you're talking anymore. you just said that with a straight face. all cuz you're feelings are hurt that you like a terrible game.
It would be a great game if it's problems that you mentioned were fixed. However there is this mod being on development called Dark souls 2 bearer of the curse edition that attempts to fix basicly all of it's problems and it's going on really well. Really looking forward to it.
Its insane how useless melee combat became sience DS2. In DS3 its alright but is not nearly as fun and functional as it was in DS1 (no dont tell me you can just R1 spam because that is lame as hell)
My main gripe with ds2 is locking on is too inconsistant. Cant lock on until the enemy is right in front of you then it auto locks on an enemy 50ft away while fighting the guy in front of you.
DS2 is my personal favorite of the series, followed by Bloodborne and then Elden Ring. I have platinum'd DS2 4 times over the course of 4 different consoles.
I like the methodic style that the game takes to combat and that it punishes you for running around like a cocaine addict that you can get away with in DS3.
There's also a ton of phenominal mechanics and build support that can be found only in DS2, which is disappointing.
Examples include:
Powerstance with different weapons
Herbs/Spices
Attunement determined Cast Speed
Bows/Catalysts can be Imfused
Strong Catalyst Weapons
Catalyst Shields
Hexes
Move Cancels
Numerous Armor Effects
Bonfire Ascetics
Burning Effigies
These are just off the top of my head.
Yeah but they won’t realize or recognize that bc haters will be haters
The people who complain about the difficulty of DS2 could never beat Sekiro because DS2 was by far the easiest one. Also, almost everyone hates DS2, but cosplay with the Faraam Armor... from DS2...
@@Black-Cipher-6 I know. I hate contradicting people with a passion. Either be truthful or don’t even attempt or else you’ll just embarrass yourself instantly. Also just the outright liars saying ds2 is a bad game. Like it’s not just an amazing game, it’s a pretty good souls game too. They had the best pvp and build variety besides Elden ring. I mean shiiiit.
@tylerrorie1856 I don't know what it was, but DS2 is more memorable to me than DS3. The DLCs for DS2 were so good! I personally enjoy them more than I enjoy the ones for DS3, but in the end, all games and DLCs are amazing! The only one I haven't played (yet) is Demon Souls because I never had a PS3, and I'm still waiting for the inevitable PS5 Pro. I opted for the Xbox 360 back then, PS4 last gen, and Xbox Series X for this gen, so I never could play Demon Souls.
From Software is one of the only developers that release banger after banger these days.
@@Black-Cipher-6 funny you say that man I just got an old ps3 slim 500gb mostly to play the og demons souls how it was back in the day. It’s very good although sometimes the frame rate is abysmal in certain areas. Just think blighttown on release 1.0
DARK SOULS IS SO AMAZING AND GREAT PPL GIVE IT SHIT AND ITS STUPID
Finished first iron keep boss and stopped it's so no for me
Yeah iron keep was a tough one, honestly after that area nothing was as bad for me. The game isn't horrible even if the video makes it seem like I hate it. I gotta give it another try. Also, whenever you have a chance check out my new video - Thanks! ua-cam.com/video/2owrXx0r260/v-deo.html
Enemy PLACEMENT i swear they spam Enemies that does like for ex Bleed and you cant run by unless you know where to go but even then its hard to not die but ovr its confusing where to go if you dont want to run into areas where you die in one shot and lose all your souls, and if you dont know to save your effigys you end up in a pit of un relenting torment
it forces you into an "offense is your best defense" mindset/philosophy cuz you would rather just take them out fast or take one out fast so you can immediately set up a 1v1 with the other mob. its ridiculous
0:05 you people don’t understand how accurate this is, i was honestly stuck on this boss for days
also there's a massive problem with dark souls 2, and it's the scholar edition changes. the main game has very good enemy positioning and overall better pacing, scholar really just adds really annoying placements and a single bossfight and ending. it's much better to just get the original with the dlcs, even though that means missing out on aldia's dialogue, which is the best written monologue in the entire series.
I wish they had a dark souls 2 remaster that’s not scholar, or at least I wish it was backwards compatible.
DS2 isn't bad. The worst in the series, probably. SoTFS made it worse.
Aint no way lmao. I got to your iron keep rant and cant believe this shit. So have so many fixable complaints. Too many enemies? Pull them 1 by 1. Boss drains your health? Wait for a specific combo to damage and heal. You know that meme of the woman crying in a pool that she's drowning but it turns out it's shallow af and she can just stand up? Thats this vid lmao
He clearly said he pulled them one by one. You know what the problem is with pulling them 1 by 1? It's fucking boring.
Another schizophrenia DS2 fans.
Being that I played it on steam for the first time I was expecting it to be extremely slow but strangely I found it fairly easy and on a blind playthrough I somehow managed to end up in new game+ completely on accident lmao. I have an extremely old laptop that could barely run any games but it ran ds2 perfectly I feel like the lag was corrected with my shitty computer. Although I had some kind of feeling I would need to thoroughly level everything to max out my defense so I stuck with stregnth, endurance, and adaptability. After I managed to beat the game for the first time I realized how to properly level my build
I think Dark Souls 2’s ambition was the very thing that hurt it, ultimately. They tried way too hard to one-up the first game in every aspect, and in the end what we ended up getting was a game with twice the amount of content, but only half the quality. (By “quality”, I’m referring to the first half of DS1.)
That’s why I’ve always felt that even at its highest points, DS2 never really impressed me, in the same way that the other two games have. The gap between the worst and the best encounters was never that wide, and thus, while resulting a feeling of a more consistent experience, it meant that nothing particularly stood out to me. There was never an Ornstein & Smough or a Bed of Chaos. It kind of just felt like a bunch of Iron Golems, a few Capra Demons, and a couple of reskinned fights (Quelaag / Gargoyles).
When you look back over the entire experience it was just an “okay” game overall, in my opinion. Well made enough that I enjoying playing it through to the end, but not something I think a lot about after that point. That’s why I consider it a 5/10, as my personal ranking.
I loved this game despite its flaws (my neighbors would disagree)
I played ds2 for the first time this year and that is a mistake i'm never making again. I've beaten all 3 souls games and elden ring but non of them felt as filled with bullshit as ds2. Ds2 basically feels like the capra demon fight but it's the whole game
ds2 feels like a fan or someone else tried to make dark souls, you can tell it's not them (the original devs who made ds1). it's a really crappy imitation of what what ds is
I've played DS2 multiple times and 2 times i actually finished it with all Dlcs but whenever someone asks me i just tell them to skip it and play the other 2 instead. Fearing they would just leave souls games altogether 😂
DS3 is not a souls game
@@Sporkonafork1 it literally is
Fun fact u can skip The Smelter Demon
he didnt talk about the majula music :c
Sorry! I should've said something because now that I think of it, Majula is my favorite hub world out of all the games, I would just stand there looking at the ocean while the music played. It really did feel like a safe place to just chill in. I gotta revisit the game. Also, whenever you have a chance, check out my new video - Thanks! ua-cam.com/video/2owrXx0r260/v-deo.html
honestly i´d rather beat all of ds2 than play through sens fortress and or blight town.
also the reason the iron keep is on the windmill is because you are in a dream. everything you are doing is a dream, and or a past memory.
It's not reality, it's a place where multiple realms exist,away from what we knew,these people are stupid
DS2 is my favourite and that's a bad excuse for the Iron Keep. The keep is supposed to be in the distant mountains seen in the harvest valley. Instead of an elevator they should have placed a teleporter like in the DLCs
@@waltuh11121 correct
blighttown and sen's fortress are goated
New lower Londo, Tomb of Giants and the Dukes Archive were way waaay worse IMO.
Don Key-Oh-Tay
How is this the first time you’ve ever come across this name?
i dont like these new gen video makers being all loud to appeal to their child audience
I’ve noticed 😂
It is the easiest as a souls player who played the games in release order. I feel like if someone started at 3 and went to 1 they gonna have a hardddd time
“If the best boss in the game is in the DLC then there is a problem”…..umm okay so bloodborne bosses are shit, dark souls bosses are shit, and ds3 bosses are also shit… crazy ass take…unless I’m misunderstanding you, the dlcs are where the best bosses usually are in any fromsoft game
This guy would go berserk if he played demon souls
I’m getting a ps5 so I just may have to finally get around to Demon Souls
The PS3 version will always be goated
Don't let Mauler see this, if you know, you know.
I think darkroom garden is supposed to be day too actually it's just trying to simulate a really dense, magical forest w a bunch of magic gloom (I kinda think they failed tho bc it does look like night)
DS2s director was the co-director for Elden Ring btw.
I hated doing alonne boss run.
iron keep was a breeze only took two trys to get smelter and three for old iron king fume knight is where the real diffculty starts
I feel like ds2 in terms of items and new mechanics is the best game what other souls game lets you make a bonfire area ng+ to get more souls or catalyst shields
Dark souls 2 has a lot of problems, and yet i still enjoy it. It is by no means undeserving of criticism, but people basically started to attack the game and never learned when to stop
Ive just died because my character aimed somewhere I never told him to. Im not having fun, I'm going to skip to 3
I played ds 2 like 120 hours and thats the worst 120 hours of my life
Well, play it for 120 more hours. You’ll soon see that it’s a good game.
@@Vinlaan it's not stop coping. 120 more hours and it would be officially ranked his worst video game ever.
@@xaevius5319 If you think it’s a bad game. You’re an idiot. You probably didn’t even get past the tutorial. You’re the one coping lmao
@@xaevius5319 Yo
@@VinlaanEither a joke or you enjoy Starfield
if you stop whining and accept all the bad or "bad" parts of DS2, the game will become fun. Git gud
Vanilla is good, scholar of the first sin is a hank fest trash heap
After playing Elden Ring for 400 hours, I decided to play Dark souls' for the first time in order. DS1 was super fun. DS2 yeah I'm never touching that crap ever again, there goes 40 euros down the drain. DS3 was super fun and what made the experience 10x better is knowing that DS2 was finally over
Yeah DS2 is a mixed bag, half of the people here say they like and the other hate it. I gotta give it another try to see if my mind changes. Also, whenever you have a chance, check out my newest video - Thanks! ua-cam.com/video/2owrXx0r260/v-deo.html
I really want to like your comment with 100 accounts. I don't know why tf DS2 fans are so delusional.
average tourist
20:54 Are they wrong though?
Honestly demon souls has the worst system out of the bunch.
DS2 tries some new things.
The good ones like bonefire transportation is kept in the later games, and the bad ones like adaptability and easily breakable gears are scratched from later games
DS2 is a good experimental project for the success of later games.
If everything was just gonna kept like DS1 / demon soul, this series would have a much smaller fanbase.
Yeah Dark Souls 2 introduced some good things that carried over to other games, so I can't hate on it completely. Also, whenever you have a chance, check out my newest video - Thanks! ua-cam.com/video/2owrXx0r260/v-deo.html