I think the constant actions taken by the US in favour of Pakistan and china in the beginning and also helping Pakistan when it invaded India, really pushed India towards Russia, India is still dealing with American decisions that has only empowered hostile nations surrounding India. Not to mention the Khalistan Issue and the funding of terrorism conducted on Indian soil.
@@manvirjudge8156 Using laughing emoji and thinking you checkmated other While giving random figures to sound intellectual is the *most cringe thing ever existed* Actual World Bank data: *Poverty rate at $3.10 a day (2017 PPP) (% population): 34.50% in 2021*
Super interested in being as good a friend to India as is suitable though, as an Australian. And we will have many cricketing dramas in the coming decades. Can't wait for the next Border-Gavaskar series! 🇦🇺❤🇮🇳
Australia and India get the situation (China!) and are completely aligned as long as Oz doesn't start enabling Khalistanis (who just murdered a moderate Sikh in NZ) like the US and Canada - doesn't seem like that's happening so we're good! I love watching India-Oz tests - great cricket all around usually. Hopefully the US will stop mucking around in the Ukraine and focus on Asia properly, as well as stop antagonising India and we can all make the world and especially the Indo-Pacific a safer place.
As an Indian i am saying India wont ever be in the race of replacing US. We just want do better for ourselves , currently we are only looking forward to develop ourselves , not looking forward to become the global police of the world. We neither want to invade anyone else , just want to reclaim our lost land in PoK and LoC.
we may become no 1 in technology , infrastructure and happiness index for our populace over a period of time, we will only organically expand and include more people of the world as our own to extend that warmth rather than expand land wise or steal their resources or occupy their lands by killing the natives- reminded of countries like usa uk australia france china ?😅. but again we are not necessarily against the people of these occupier countries as well, only against some of their bad decisions .
You are right that India is not an ally of west but India is also not anti- west. The current distrust between India and west is beacause of historical factors however they are diminishing every day. And when you have a population of 1.5 billion to feed then you can't really choose sides other than the side that would benifit your own people.
It’s still continuing because Canada and the US still supports groups like the Khalistanis working to destabilize India. Just yesterday, Punjab police arrested 2 US-based smugglers.
No Gaurav, you can clearly see that India has their own agenda. Look at the "murder program" that the BJP party tried to do on American soil. You are very "Anti-West" trying to hire "hit men" to kill American citizens that as "anti-western" as it gets.
I have travelled all over india and being influenced by their culture all along in my life though I am not an Indian by birth. I find India as a complex nation with massive diversity and unity in such diversity. Despite being pro western in their thinking but very deeply rooted in their own culture in every aspect of life They are likely to pursue their own foreign policy and will do it well They may not become a global power but one that can’t be ignored ‘Like an elephant 🐘 in the room’ This aptly fits this nation
india will be largest economy by the year 2060, its religious and spiritual influence will be all over the world, i do forsee europe and america becoming regional power in the future in the age of resurgent india and china
India was a civilisational superpower for millennia. Its forte is in the cultural and spiritual realms. Aspiring after economic and military power beyond a point of sufficiency would be counterproductive, especially for India.
The biggest difference between India and USA is that historically India has been broken up by external forces and USA has been added to by force. Obviously the geopolitics in both places is going to be different.USA does not really have a consistent foreign policy as it is generally decided by its military complex and ‘friendships’ are monetarily motivated.India does have a consistent foreign policy which the west especially USA finds fairly difficult to understand because it is not always self-serving. Any analysis about India made in the west falters heavily because it can never take into consideration civilizational and cultural aspects which USA completely lacks. Only time will tell which policy has longevity. India in this respect has a track record of not burning bridges,USA does not.
India has been hostile towards its own citizens in the past and still religious wars going on in the current government. India will not stand in the future and furthermore most of the millionaires who could have made impact in India have been leaving the country and joining the US or other western nations. With truth being said India will die in the next 40 years with low birth rate and communal disputes within its own country. The problem with most Indians is that they cannot gulp the truth that India is divided under the current regime, so many atrocities are done in the name of religion and power. So many youngsters or work force are fleeing the nation to a safe place and what remains in India only age old people who are waiting to die when their time comes. India is not going further anymore.
India will never be global superpower like the erstwhile USSR or the USA, but India will never perish either. It will keep growing both, militarily as well as economically, and will become a significant power. It will look after its own interests and will not become a proxy of one country against another. All power centres would like to have good relations with India.
India was but kinda superpower when every other country was living under rocks. So IG Indian civilization is best for becoming superpower and lead world with law and order unlike US which has always been like a villain for world
I don't think it wants to be a "superpower" in the modern sense of the world. To be a superpower, you have to go and do all these stupid interventions all over the place (as of now). It may become a superpower in other ways, like an economic superpower (similar to how the United States was pre WWI), and a military power that punches above its weight class (like Yugoslavia did). It's cultural reach is limited to the former Cold War era Second World and third world. No one in the West really cares to experience it unless it's for views lol. For example, idk why people are fanboying over RRR (what about something like the Aalavandhan rerelease which has gotten little attention here)? India is going to become what the United States should have been-- strong states rights, central government focusing on mainly external issues when internal development can be handled by the states, non interventionism, and a focus on trade.
@@megatron1560I wouldn't go as far as to say that the United States was always a "villain for the world", because it's a big country, and a lot of people in that country have a lot of power and autonomy. So it's really a mixed bag, there are a lot of good things the United States does, you won't hear much about them because it's an expectation. If you do bad things, well people should hear about it because you are abusing your power and being a damn bully.
Frankly world domination has never interested indians. India will become a power but if it's going to be a super , is of doubt. If that ensures harmony in the world then that will motivate for sure. But India too has a lot many people who are monetarily motivated so if proper channels are policies are made in the country they won't hesitate to compete against the world
Peter nailed it. India is a whole world unto itself, always will be. Past conquerors of India, like Alexander the Great, the Moslem Moguls, then the British Empire, all left traces of their presence, but all were absorbed by India which never gave up being entirely Indian, simply too huge to dent.
Alexander never conquered India! That's a myth. According to greek historians, he defeated king Porus or Purushottam an erstwhile small king at the brink of river Indus in western India. Our historians tell Purushottam defeated the much larger greek host, and that's why Alex the great had to retreat back. There were much bigger kingdoms in the central India whose military strength (Millions of soldiers and cavalry, hundreds of thousands of war elephants) at that point of time would have left the greeks and persians in a ziffy. That's the resason why persians didn't expand east at that point of time. 👆 Just google. It will hardly take a few minutes to find.
@@sandeeppanda7879 I think Alexander won those battles. If he had lost he and his army would have been wiped out, given that they were very far from home surrounded by hostile neighbors. However, you are right that Alexander didn't conquer all of India - he only got the northwest corner to (and not really beyond) the Indus river. As far as being able to conquer the rest of India - we will never know since he was forced to turn back by his army, so we are told. Before turning back he conquered the Indus valley.
Isn't that how America was supposed to work according to our Founding Fathers? Invite different people into the midst but remain true to some Founding principles? Somewhere America messed up by interfering with every other country on Earth and then believing that opening the border to everyone would magically bring diversity and unity. It did no such thing. India instead dealt with various cultures, incorporated some left other things aside, concentrating on creating a strong family unity first before running off trying to conquer the world. India has much to give to the world without running around playing boss of the hill.
@@ingehanson America interfering with every country in the world? So, I guess the US should have sat out world war 2 then. When most countries ended up becoming a hegemon (Rome, China, Ottoman Empire, etc) they tended to conquer their enemies, then wipe out or attempt to wipe out their cultures. The US conquered Japan, then instead of wiping them out or incorporating them as American territory they set them up as an independent nation, and Japan thrived. Also, I have zero sympathy to these turd world nations who have benefited from a global economic system protected with US tax dollars. If these nations are still crap holes maybe you need to look to your corrupt "leadership" for your money they stole. If your country didn't benefit from the US keeping the sea lanes open - that is the cost of not allying with them during the cold war. As far as those of you who are upset with the US trying to impose western decadence (LGBTQCRAP) on your nations and cultures - just realize there are a lot of Americans who are just as pissed off at having this crap imposed upon us as well. If you guys really don't like it then why don't you guys go and burn rainbow flags in June in protest. The current administration would have a hard time convincing the American people to attack your countries to uphold progressive decadence because, like the talk of the US invading Syria back during the Obama years, a lot of us will be telling our reps to NOT get involved in your countrys' assertion of your traditional values because we don't have a real national interest in imposing foreign corruption on you folks.
alexander never conquered india . He came back from afghanistan fearing large indian armies . There was rebellion in his army not to fight with indian empires
And what does that quote mean anyway? Absolutely nothing. People repeat this quote as if it is saying something. It does not say anything at all. It is the most foolish quote of all times.
@@ppen8359 It means nothing. It is just something a majority of Indians try to harp-on because that's what we were brought up with. Given a chance every single one of us will gladly move to the US (including the OC) even as the GOI takes all measures to increase strategic partnership with the States.
fairly accurate assessment -- India never going to multilateral ally of the west neither will be a foe. But India invading middle-east for energy is far fetched. It's not in our nature, we would rather put our energy in diversifying our sources. Same with China, we don't have ill feeling about Chinese people but we are very capable of defending ourselves from China (or anyone else) if any threat arises. So we will do business with them on a term mutually agreeable to both, will not be pressurized by the West. So that means when India talks about becoming a superpower it means economics only and sufficient military power to protect itself, not to invade others or be world's police.
the only issue with china is communism , which incidentally is a western export to China. Once communism is booted out of China, it will have no probs with India
@@sarvatail773 Then how is that PRC has embarked on trade or "profit" as motive (even "lending money" to other countries & enjoying that interest)? Communism precludes profit motive & Economy should be as directed by the "State". Use of visible coercive principle (Communism) to control population. In that sense they are exploiting Communist principles to serve political ends, ordering society in uni -directional orientation, laid down by (ruling) party. Visible Communist aspect is the lack of elections (universal suffrage). Westerners judge a democracy by this principle, to conclude that lack of it is Communism.
India being located in one of the most strategic shipping routes in the world with such a huge markets means that it doesn’t need to cosy up with it’s land neighbours as much and shipping is the most widely used and cheapest way of transporting goods which can make India a manufacturing hub for the world cuz India can make both great quality products and cheaper quality ones can allow them to crack both higher valued markets (like the west) and lower valued markets (like South east asia ,latin amerca or Africa)
@ayushc5704 I believe in the latter half of your statement, only when someone abroad craves for one Indian product above all others. India doesn't know that she doesn't know, what is Technology, what are "standards" and how branding is done.
No country can prosper without a peaceful neighborhood. China did deal with Russia, US has canada and Mexico. We are basically surrounded by hostile/near hostile countries.
I would NEVER bet on manufacturing in India. India will always manufacture high cost low quality products. The reason is labor unions. Indians will never give you cheap things ever. China gave cheap things because it was bonded labor.
India does not need the US. It grows at 7%, the highest rate among major economies. India will be three times the largest economy than US economy in 40 years.. I am very worried about the quality of American products and the workforce is not productive. Just take NASA, it is very inefficient compared to ISRO. And look at GM and ford and compare them with JLR/ Tata or BYD, NIO in the area EV. The US is a declining power., unless it cooperates with India. However, India does not need the US for its growth. That is the reality.
Hey Peter, I'm here in China - been here for a LONG time. The relationship between China and India is very complicated, to say the least. Funny to see that they are in BRICS together. But could you do a video solely on the India and China relationship? Thank you sir! Happy New Year!
As an Indian there are a lot of very prominent and well respected journalists and even some ministers and civil servants questioning this during the recent BRICS and BRI summits, the rationale that the Indian govt has is to essentially replace China in those groupings after they decline
China is a bully and a danger to all its neighbors. And india is indular and self protectionist...so India will clash with China over their shared border and over Himalayan water access in the future. And when China collapses, India will likely move into Nepal in some way. Brics will fall apart soon when russia collapses. India will grow more insular, but with a foot towards the west, as they see russian weaponry for the trash it is .
India is in BRICS solely due to FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out), and that's something non Indians and many intentionally blind Indians refuse to accept. This is the same reason India joined SCO, because Pakistan was joining. India does not want a situation where India's enemies are in multilateral groups bashing India (like Pakistan in OIC). To summarise and understand the Indian psyche/ way of thinking, India has 2 + 1 + 0.5 enemies. 2 big ones are Islam and China (China being newer and less understood by Indians). The next 1 is the United States, less of a problem than the first 2 but still big, because US has no real friends and will always backstab if necessary. The last 0.5 are internal enemies. Separatists, maoists, naxals, neo-liberals, anarchists, Hindu haters, etc.
@@adityapratapsharma5325hahaha.. Replace China is Brics? There is no Brics without China. Indians should stop deluding themselves. You are far too weak to try to play the big game. The ONLY reason you have been allowed to make noise last few years is China. The Americans want you to fight China till the last Indian. They do that.
We Indians don't consider China an enemy only suspicious of their govt ambitions. Chinese people are great people. Many Indians marry them..lately Indians have got to know more of China and Chinese cities. Few utubers have shown us China. People want to visit. Many Indian students there. If borders are queit I see both countries coming closer. Trading heavily Because its close. We need them,they need us. Its like Canada US. We both depend on eachother. This relationship has to work for progress of both countries. We dont interfere in Chinese politics,they dont interfere in ours. So no real differences exist. We both are close Russian, saudi, iranian friends. So much convergence of friends and intrests. They want same things as we do. India only doesn't want to be pressured on borders and wants settled borders
Indians do not have friends in the West and North but have friends all over the world with a strong mutual respect rather than a ruler and ruled relationship.
@@Khader1093 Wrong. India has no friends. Russia is not a friend of India. No Russian ever died for India ever. If India goes at war then Russia does not have any power whatsoever to do anything for India.
Well, it took almost a decade longer than expected and needed more foreign components than specified. I recommend Perun's recent video on Indian arms procurement for further information. Still, I agree with you that India's building of a carrier and their sincere efforts in that area are important. However, Vikrant is not as much of a game-changer as you seem to imply.
India has a number problems that defeat mobilization of Labor, a deeply ingrained communist ideology and the caste system. Good luck with changing either of these🎉
@@mattblom3990 An indigenous Ballistic Missile Defense Program, Fighter Jets, Helicopters, Supersonic Cruise Missiles, Nuclear Triad Delivery Systems, NaVIC independent Navigation Systems, Space program that lands successfully on the Moon for less than a Hollywood movie budget?
@@-rate6326but entire India depended on this maritime route, mahajanapadas were still manufacturing raw materials and finished products that were exported
I’d also like to point out india is extremely close to Israel and France, both those countries have supported India, those countries are our best bet of forming closer ties with India. It’s hard to constantly act against a country and expect them to be friendly towards us. India has gone from 200 years of British rule to immediate wars supported by the US against it.
@ kevinnagar7539 India has many friends with deep understanding of India. India thanks them all appropriately. Israel and France, were specially picked because at the present juncture, the three are helping each other in military matters, keeping the door open for any negotiations with others. When democracy is in peril from outside attack, it needs military help too, from friends.
@@Truthfully12312 Indians are fierce fighters? What war experience does India have? As for the Chinese all of the immigrants out of Beijing, Shanghai, and Hong Kong don't like Indians. In fact, I have never met one Asian that likes India, they tell me Indians will stab their own family in the back over money. Most of these Indian "family values" produce lots of criminals and gang members when they immigrate to Western countries. What "family values" are being taught in Indian homes to produce such criminality?
I don’t ever imagine India invading in the Gulf even for energy. They usually buy from various countries all over including Russia, Saudi, US and are trying to reduce the dependence on oil by 2050. Indians have participated in peacekeeping forces thru the UN. The big picture currently is build out of infrastructure as the Indians want to grow their economy.
@@ayushroy2244 It’s not a third world or developing world issue, India is more about defending extremely hostile neighbors in the north tying up forces. It’s not an expansionist state.
@@ag4eng I think you're right, being a strong democracy even if Indian gov. tries to grab land or attack any country (pak included) like the chinese, its own people will retaliate but if someone were to hurt India (especially pakis) then oh boy same people will make sure they pay
@@captainalex157still india manages its food demand for its 1.4 billion people from within india..and also export food items at large quantity. India has enough...when it comes to food resources
@@durgeshsss right now, but look at the data there is a clear trend and it doesnt look good. Oh yeah i forgot that the chinese are also damming up many of indias rivers in the himalayas.
@@captainalex157 You are wrong on certain things. India's river originate in Himalayas. And the source of origin of most of these rivers are within India. The starting point of some of the rivers might be in Tibet but the tributaries within India are the major feeders to these rivers. Many other rivers are rain fed. And the source of these rivers are the Indian monsoons or rainy season. Soil degradation is mostly a non-issue. Though in some areas which have been originally arid, there are now agricultural fields. These fields are irrigated with ground water. The hypothesis is that when the ground water diminishes then these areas will suffer a fall in agricultural activities. Thus, leading to soil degradation. Therefore, what you are talking about is limited to just few areas.
I have always found India to be very predictable with regards to its foreign policy; India will ALWAYS make choices that are best for India. In my opinion, that makes them a stable force in the region. With increased economic ties, India may choose to be more amenable towards maintaining a cordial relationship with the West simply because increased manufacturing is good for the Indian economy.
As we go forward, the west will need India more than India needs the west. This sounds ludicrous now, yet only the wealthy among the west will be able to afford Indian products around 2045. India has been pillaged and looted to build the Islamic world and the Anglo Saxon world. We have these lessons deeply ingrained in us. A land destroyed over a span of 800 years, will have scars that shall influence the relations with the rest of the world.
THIS!! Western media loves to shit on India because we didn't support Ukraine, but we stayed neutral to maintain good relationship with the Russians. We got discounted fuel from Russia, many Indian companies filled in the void created due to western companies leaving Russia due to sanctions and most importantly, we prevented the Russians from becoming overly dependant on the Chinese. We regularly Join and maintain relationships in regional multilateral groupings to provide a counterweight to the Chinese and limit their influence in the Indian Ocean region. India might probably never reach the heights USA and China reached, but that's honestly fine.
@@atharwamalawade259 When the Western media shi*s on India, India need only tell the world, it is not India that is engaged in endless wars. As you put it Indians can fill the void. "Find a need and fill it."
That's why India will never be a big power, they base relationship on how much you will give them, but don't ever ask them for anything. Africa is kind of the same way. It's Called ME ME ME These are one sided relationship nobody likes. India has to ask itself why they never grow like china.
Id also remind that India was a economic superpower up until 1700s and it wants to regain its power back. Its that sentiment that drives a nation unlike the boxed thinking of any analyst.
@nishantkumar05 If it is so till 1700, it means there is stuff in Indian Economy and that it isn't hollow. India wants to exploit this advantage to better the condition of her 1.5 billion people.
@@rishavkumar1250 Point (very well) taken. Yet, horribly short on Self-confidence, they (Indians) need something to fall back upon. What better than the cozy"past" that doesn't talk back? "My grandpa used to drink desi ghee. Smell my mouth (if you want proof), Ha!" - says a saying.
The Indian Army, staffed by more than 2.5 million volunteers, arguably saved the British Empire and the Allies 1939-1941. The Indians have that experience in painful sacrifice to an alliance, even though it was a colonial arrangement; the fact that ( unlike US, UK or Australia) Indian troops weren't conscripts was quite unique.
@@jirik2435 Or how much they respected the British in comparison to the swindling Muslim and Hindu babus that they were carrying on their backs for generations. Face it. The Raj wasn't was "conquest", it was a JV between desis fed up with the Mughals and Hindu elites, finding better pay, better, more humane treatment and honorable service with the foreigner than the domestic crooks. Be as bitter as you will, but millions of natives worked for the British Raj, profitably and contentedly. It took a lot of prompting by corrupt self-interested elites (Nehru-Gandhi criminals for the most part, aligned with the fake Muslim Jinnah) to create the situation that led to British departure - and at that, without a fight or any attempt at oppressing the locals. The brainwashing that Marxists and Indian nationalists do, is basically proof of how much they have to try and make desis hate The British.
And right after that they went for independence. I am pretty sure the British Empire is not an example of India having a pleasent experience with foreign alliances.
Oh this going be interesting Hindu Warriors on Arab lands taking their oil. LOL 🤣 Hey Colonizer. You do have to wonder India's Navy is ten times more powerful than it needs to be. It is design to invade other nations.
Indias biggest export will be - People. These people will bring India closer to those Countries. Indians make better citizens than many of the other alternatives!
@@tanler7953sikh is less than 2% of India’s population. We had sikh prime minister for 10 years. We also had Sikh president. For Canada, Sikh community runs your drug business and they have very stronghold in politics with drug money. In US there is Mexican drug cartel but Mexicans do have any drug cartel in Canada. My point is not to characterise all Sikh as drug dealer or in drug business.
@@tanler7953Canada is a country with 40 million population, and it is not even a country, it is just a secret extension of USA. Don't compare it with India, a nation with 1430 million population and a diversity Canada can never imagine. So, don't compare.
The Indian diaspora where a significant number of Indians move to other countries could eventually impact US and Indian relations. I see a lot of comments from Indians supporting Guyana in their dispute, and they openly attribute that to the fact that a significant percentage of that country are descendants of Indians. I also think the insular non-expansion policies that the Indian government is taking may help increase Indian's political clout in their part of the world, especially if China continues its current expansionist policies and questions are raised about the possibility of the US pulling back its forces in SE Asia, like it is doing in the Middle East.
India is supplying radars and missiles to Armenia with france India also supplied brahmos supersonic cruise missiles to phillipines..The one thing you forgot to mention is India is stepping up its defence industry by jointly producing weapons with us,russia,france,israel
A very accurate understanding of Indian foreign relations. We don't have friends or allies, we only have interests and sometimes, these interests can align. 1.4 billion Indians would do anything to protect India if they feel like our sovereignty or strategic Interests are under great threat
I always find Indian's sense of national unity quite remarkable, as if the country was always a single entity, when in fact historically it was extremely fragmented, divided by different regional cultures and languages.
It seems like India is where China was 30-40 years ago and as China matures i could see India steeping in to become the next world manufacturing center. It has all the ingredients, a very large young work force that isn't afraid to work hard, English speaking, low wages, easy access to shipping, very little environmental laws. and a hunger to lift themselves out of poverty. within 20 years every item you buy will have ( made in India) on it.
@@frankprit3320 India has missed the boat. Add to that low labour productivity, rising costs of production etc...the probability of India becoming the next China is very low. I used to work for a manufacturing sector in India. Labour productivity is extremely low, compared to East Asian or Western labour, lot to third rate Engineers coming out of shady colleges, even if India has so much unemployment hard to get skilled labour, most good engineers prefer working in Software leaving very few for the manufacturing sector, lack of good research and development etc... The cost of production including land costs, labour costs etc..has increased thanks to inflation, India missed the golden period of manufacturing when the costs of inputs were very low.
As an Indian , if only someone who can develop our country and make us the manufacturing giant . It will be our youth . I know many startups who are working in semiconductor technology and space .
It won't happen. Everyone lives in the northeast and your ports are south brother. The shipping of good and building of infrastructure between the north and south will take time so building manufacturing will also. India will be able to make enough goods for itself but not the world like China did. The land there isn't suitable for it and would take a long while to be made suitable. If India started now, they could make enough just in time for their population decline in say 70 years so it won't be done.
@@matthewmcclary7855 another nay-sayer much like old Churchill that said was not a country but a geographical term like the equator, fasten your seat belt
@@saviop7529 I said it would take a lot and they couldn't replace China as the worlds manufacturer, but also said they will have everything they need for themselves. It took China 4 generations, 80 years, to be what they are. It would take longer for India to do it. China will only have 800,000 people while India will stay above 1.4 billion but the geographics and the shift of population needed won't happen overnight. They can do it but they would finish just in time for their expected population decline. Unless their birthrates go up, which is the opposite of what happens in developing countries, it's something that they shouldn't strive for. If they decided to just manufacture enough for say, just Asia, Europe, and parts of Africa, that could be done in a much shorter time and could be maintained by their great grandchildren. The world though, would take a lot more work and time that couldn't be sustainable with their projected population.
@@tony16991 look it up. 80% of the population is in the northeast of the country. 80% of the US population live East of the Mississippi River. 80% Mexicans live in the south of Mexico. This is basics in studying countries. People don't like living in the desert. They like water and fertile soil so they live close to it. It doesn't take a genius to know that most of the people in Egypt live close to the Nile River. You have some general studying to do before commenting on advanced topics. Good luck in your studies and respect.
There was a time during the 80's where I always imagined I would be settling in the US. As time progressed and I became more aware and mature, I realized staying in India was much better. And with the current political progressions, it will definitely rise into a nation of envy for everyone. Jai Shri Ram :)
India & Australia are forging a closer relationship as we have close cultural ties through cricket and being for British colonies. There's also the Quad. Modi has visited Australia many times so I think that India and Australia (and by default, the west) have a closer relationship than Peter believes.
Hindu nationalism will be there because of muslim nationalism we have already have been divided into two parts bangladesh and pakistan ,now we don't want more division of our country
Thank you for that information. I was unaware of the close relationship between India and Australia; I mourn the fact that there is so little reliable reporting on world events here in the US - the myopic naval-gazing of the US media is ridiculous and forces everyone to find their own information.
India could have had a similar relationship with Canada as it has with Australia given the cultural ties and being British colonies. But Canada’s politics has been hijacked by Khalistanis. I hope Australia learns from Canada’s mistakes and doesn’t allow any group to create ethnic enclaves (like Canada’s Brampton and Surrey) and make sure immigrants integrate into the wider Australian society.
India is trying hard to move away from Russian defence equipment and aling more with US & France but every now and then US & its allies keep making small moves which make India vary of entering into deeper alliance with US. Also as you said Peter the current India will first think about itself.
@@starchunkss They are sponsoring terrorism in India. Canada US not cooperating with India on Khalistan issue shows their intentions to destabilise India in long term.
@Electrical1112 No, what India has difficulty understanding is that US has freedom of speech. Citizens are allowed to say whatever they want even horrible things about America. India can not ignore that and take matters into their own hands and kill people that do not agree.
Yea, France will be a better solution for Indian arms requirements. There's no overlap in their spheres of influence or resource requirements, whereas India is bound to clash with the USA every so often. Actually I see French arms exports increasing in many parts of the world because the French are only really interested in a limited part of the world. Their arms are top notch too. 👍 All the best.
India will be fine in the next few decades! They will pick up a huge amount of the manufacturing that used to be done in China. I can see India growing *massively* in its manufacturing output. India's space program too - that will have huge success over the next few years and decades.
I think India will eventually get on that family/friends plan. As a fellow democracy with close cultural ties and (at least in this country) Indian origin peoples doing really well and being valued contributing members of society… assuming nothing goes majorly wrong, I think it’s only a matter of time. Happy New Year!
We'll see. Right now, it seems as though India is shedding its democracy. I think Mr Zeihan has it right--our (the US) relationship with India will be entirely transactional. Which isn't to say nothing good can come from it.
@@baa0325 the worlds largest and most diverse functional democracy and you have the gall to say it is "shedding its democracy"? It maintained democratic credentials from a very dark past when it was mired in a CIVIL WAR and REFUGEE CRISIS thrust upon it at inception and you think it will have a democratic problem now when it arguably has the winds in its sails and is in its best economic shape in generations? What you are smoking is the real good stuff, must be the Khalistan franchise supplied stuff?
Nice...😊As Indian We are learning and improving ourselves day by day....😊🙏 thanks for your precious thoughts.... 😊❤🌹lot's of love and good wishes from my lovely India my friend.😊🙏🙏 Definitely We indians work on that 🙏
Nice.. actually, it has almost all the landscape you need to experiment with your tech. Sea, river, swamp, island, river island, field mountain plateau, trenches, snow, lakes, desert, rainy areas, rainforest, hills, 90% of the natural geographic bodies are present in india. India people are very diverse. India, like a big united country, has 22 official languages. There are slums, poor, middle income families. High income families and even richest people. And every religion of the world. Only thing india lack is energy. And it has worst opposition political party.
Being extremely diverse is not a strength, especially when that diversity has caused much of the instability in the region. Some examples are the Tamil uprising, Monotheistic versus Pantheistic religions, and ethnic tensions due to their caste systems.
India's naval power in the Indian Ocean is increasing signficantly, and with the introduction of long range anti ship missiles and unmanned naval vessels, combined with space assets, this will only increase further this decade. India will never match US blue water capabilities this century, but it can secure its sea lanes within the IOR.
The American Navy capabilities happened in a historic bubble of the death of the European military as a whole. Unlikely that any country can match those capabilities in the next century.
@@tony16991 France is a joke, country that has severe internal issues, on the edge of civil war, they can only role play major power, in fact they have tiny population, no high tech (I.e. AIs) and no land army
Having worked with many people from India in Silicon Valley, I hope India can become an ally to the US. I really liked the people from India that I've worked with, and I can see a bright future for that country if that group can influence policy in India. I've not been to India myself, so encourage any who has to correct me if they think I'm wrong. But if India can move away from a "Soviet socialist" mindset in government and more to a Western capitalist mindset that builds infrastructure, I think they could do very well economically in the next 50 years.
India is very pro west and India abandon the soviet model of growth long ago India has capitalist mindset now. But problem here for west is that India has his own ambitions & goal for the region which are not fully alined with US ambitions. US want India to abandon Russia completely but that is a thing which NO Indian government can do because India has his own experiences & history with West & Russia.
@@Electrical1112 Thanks for the response. I'll give one example of an area where I hope we could work more closely, and that is Space. I personally would be in favor of ending cooperation with Russia on the International Space Station and then including India in building a new station in low-earth orbit and then a base on the moon focused on science and commercial research. I think India's space program will soon exceed Russia's program. The Russian space program is now just living off of the fumes of its past while dying from corruption.
PZ: not only is there an absence of trust and sacrifice in the making of the US India relationship, there is historical distrust from an India point of view. There is a strong memory of the USS Enterprise in the Bay of Bengal during the Bangladesh War of Independence (from your friends Pakistan), where the US took the side of genocidal jihadis, against a democracy. Bangladesh today is an emerging success story of the sub continent, proving that the US/Nixon/Kissinger gang of unholies was on the wrong side of history in 1971. Many such examples remain (switching off GPS by Clinton in the 1999 Kargil War) in our memories that will never allow Indians to build trust with the US let alone military alliances. We will go it alone and be succesful at becoming a large econimic power on our own. We will be friends but never allies. And I do wonder what the US mindset will be when India sets to cross the $10 trillion mark in a decade or so. It will be the only large democracy that will be an economoc powerhouse in the world that is fully independent of the US led group of Marshall Plan+ bridesmaids. How much democratic brotherly love will still be around?
@anarchyishere8312 Clinton was within his right, in switching off GPS in the 1999 Kargil War (beggars can't be expected to dictate terms). It was tool in "his" hands.
@anarchyishere8312 Crossing $10 trillion mark is easy. GDP figures are reckoned in US$. Now 1 US$ = Rs. 81 & our GDP is US$ 3.5 trillion. make the exchange rate to 1 US$ = Rs. 27 and you'll have US$10 trillion economy. But the crux of the problem is to how to make US$ equal to Rs.27? There lies the biggest challenge, that of managing the global FE market.
One of my favorite youtubers (arduinos vs evil) recently did a dewalt tool breakdown that was made in India and the build quality was astonishingly good. After several decades of Chinese build quality, I think we're in for a welcome "treat especial"
One thing that you missed Peter.... the most important Indian Export is .... INDIANS! You are right that there is an excess of 25-35 year olds that falls down sharply but a large chunk of those will be going to Western countries. Indians are the highest earners anywhere they go and in turn they start to gain political weight.... for India and Indians anywhere. The Jewish diaspora is very powerful, but they are nothing compared to the growing Indian one.
@@imgreen2563 yes household income is analogous to individual income…. Not sure why that would misrepresent anything. 90% of Indians in the US have a bachelors degree and 50%+ have masters.
Because the majority of the bachelors degrees that Indians have are faked, US Indians may as well be completely different people culturally to mainland Indians.@@SP-wv4id
@@imgreen2563Well Indians usually live in a household. Even the most individualistic Indians live with their families. And with high household income, every member of the household reaps it's benefits.
Very Good Analysis 👍🏻 India will always look after Indian interests and if these interests aligns with US it will be patner (not subordinate) of US, if it aligns with Russia , it will be patner of Russia. At the same time it can be patner of both, if its interests lies in it.
@@shikharrawat2298 chuck it man, the western economy is built on loot, that is all they know and understand. The entire petro dollar is the biggest con job pulled off at the expense of the rest of the world! Even East India company will be put to shame!
I see India very publicly befriending the Persian Gulf & ASEAN countries in the interest of regional security. Sri Lanka, Bangladesh or even Pakistan becomes their "Mexico" for local manufacturing and China and ASEAN can fill any other voids leftover - they have already shown their propensity to do back room deals with China, Russia, Europe & even America but any formal alliance with any of the four would probably be bad for India. Best to keep things neutral. India is honestly positioned almost like a modern-day Switzerland to weather future economic adversity or turbulence from war conflicts.
also our economic growth is driven by domestic consumption - that helps in a turbulent volatile world, as does food security (net exporter). Energy security is challenging, but India is quite serious on renewables and has tight relationships with Saudi, UAE, Russia, and Oman. As for defence, if the US doesn't pony up with advanced arms, the France and Russia are there to help. Hopefully Japan will start to develop it's arms industry potential too. The only issue with the India US partnership is the US need for subservience and willing to use terrorists (Khalistanis) to serve their deep state purposes. Hopefully Trump or another Republican will drain the swamp so both India and US can get on with cooperating against Chinese expansionaism.
@@madhukarmurthi9064 Those are great points. I think Peter's point about energy from the Persian gulf makes sense for India. It's so close regionally speaking. Also being neutral or "India First" allows for India to do business with the big giants (Russia, US, China) as a big giant itself like you pointed out. There are other weapons manufacturers coming online if US/France/Germany didn't want to play ball such as Russia, Sweden, Poland, South Korea, Israel, Brazil, Turkey and even Japan. India will have a large interest in neutralizing a Pakistani crisis or instability and protecting it's northern and eastern borders from China. It may also defer a lot of resources to the Persian gulf or Malaccha straight in ASEAN territory will require strong navy assets that can deploy to and patrol at least 2 separate regions.
@@williamdaniels9728 Yes indeed - there's an Indian naval buildup (frigates and destroyers) as we speak in the Persian Gulf / Red Sea area, I'm sure they're cooperating with the US and it's allies there (but who are we fooling - Canada and Australia sent 30 men in total with no naval vessels) not publicly though due to sensitivities. Andaman and Nicobar are ideal bases to chole the Straits of Malacca from - China is working with Myanmar on Coco Island naval base to counter. China is a serious challenger to both the US and India - the job is much easier if we can build trust and interoperability. So far, we're doig well on interoperability but not on trust!
Bangladesh being India's Mexico is a joke of the day, when the GDP per capita nominal of Bangladesh is HIGHER THAN INDIA. So yes in a world where maybe Mexico was richer than the US. No country trusts India in the neighborhood. None. And no country wants to be India's lapdog maquiladora. Indians have enough cheap labor themselves.
People tend to forget that India is one of the oldest and most invaded countries in the world and that will always be in the background while dealing economically, politically and setting foreign policies.
India has a lot of potential to produce high quality products at scale, for example indian two wheeler manufacturing has outperformed Chinese and beaten them in the african market..we can do this in other sectors with the right focus and leadership..
Not just economically but emotionally also ! My dads friends itself Israelis who lived here who came here after gulf war and even they married with Our Indian women's many of them ! They go back to Israel in 1992 we still in touch there are like this so many Israelis ! India was the country where Jews don't get persecuted here also oldest Jewish tribe since last 2000 years living happily" benai nashe" Jewish tribe !
We even give refuge to them in ww2 ! One of them still live in my village he Married local women have big farmhouse and doing well in community he came back here in 2011 from Israel idk why ! He was not here before he probably take this decision to come here by his friend who is half indo-isareli ! Living happily and doing advance farming ! 😮 we all visited his place its cool ! We even give refuge to Persians when Islamic take over Iran (Persia)
I’m curious what you know about the threat China poses to indias clean water supply from the Tibetan Himalayas. I’ve heard a little about it but doesn’t get discussed much
Not really a threat… the only water problem from china is the Brahmaputra river… but fortunately for India about 80% of the rivers water is from pouring rain and not glaciers which are in China (Tibet). Yes they have the capability to stop that 20% but negligible damage as not large segment of population lives around it.
@@madhukarmurthi9064 LOL John is clown that repeat what 80 year old billionaires pay him says. He like you are parrots. Come here "Poly" do you want a cracker. LOL hahahahahahaha 🤣
@@madhukarmurthi9064Do John Mersheimer have a channel of his own like Peter Zeihman ? I looked him up on Yt and there are podcasts appearances of him on random channels. But couldn't find his own UA-cam channel.
Loving the post American series! Would be great to hear about the effect of this transition in US foreign policy on the UN, WTO, IMF and the wider international organisations group. Thanks for the content!
Have intertwined relationships with a few native India folks over the years, very reserved, thoughtful, respectful with a very staunch advocacy for neutrality and taking care of their own. What has probably set the US apart is our political structure and the continuing unreliability to form, keep friends. We cannot seem to keep our hands out of others business as we think for some reason we should be the world's police. This I hope will change. If we can learn to mind our own & take of our own issues first before that of others, coupled with regaining some actual backbone once again, we could become at least a recognizable world player, once more. We cannot do this without first getting our own affairs in order. Our political structure is in shambles which has caused much of what I've discussed. The American people are a good, sound bunch. As most other folks of this world, we all just want peace and prosperity and to live in harmony. To do this, will require many ways we and others view ideas and ideologies of the current homo sapiens. Our species is that of the addictive nature, all mammals fall under this category for survival. In order that we move forward with the constraints we so far have set in stone, there must be change, and yes, our species as most does not like change. The side note to this though is, we adapt quite easily, therefore a brighter picture is merely under our noses, should we find the affinity to look down and endure. One of the main reasons our species has taken so long to evolve is this lack of unwillingness to change what we are comfortable with. One of the many things my dad mentioned to me while growing was; he said, "Boy, there's a lot of things in life you're not gonna like to do but you will do these things because it is required of you." This he said when I was about 4 yrs old while watching him shave one morning. To this day, I find no great comfort in shaving, now 64 years later but, yes, it's something that has to be done.
@@shikharrawat2298 That piece on "India may eventually attack the Gulf for energy & only US can counter that attack" is pure BS. It isn't in the nature of India to do that. India has a very high sensitivity to ownership as she doesn't want to be tagged as "thief". India has plans of her own, to meet the energy needs & security. If needed India will emerge as a leading naval power.
@@shikharrawat2298 That isn't what he said. He said it would be useless even if we did conquer our neighbours since it wouldn't help us strategically in any way. Also, the reason he says India can't be a massive naval power is that we're too busy worrying about land-based threats like China, and Pakistan to devote that much of our budget to the navy. The US has no security threats within the Western hemisphere, Their borders are Canada and Mexico, two good friends of theirs, and the 2 biggest oceans on Earth on either side. And on the other side of both oceans, are their allies. their entire defence budget is an offence budget. Not so with us. And he isn't contradicting himself at all with his point about navies. Watch his other videos. He's very clear that he believes that only the US, Japan, The UK and France, have long-distance naval capabilities, like fighting a full-scale war on the other side of the globe. India does not have that capability, but we don't need it because the Middle East is next door. Pretty much everything we need is close by in fact.
slow : India has attained independence in 2023. Crazy right?. It wont be slow ahead careful: the west breathed us down our neck this long. still does, but wont be able to destabilize ahead (esp post 2025). The spirit of Bharat does not conquer, loot nor colonize to grow an economy. The world will be better off with Bharat (India) be a dominant power, never a super power nor a moral police.
It is ridiculous to say that India and United States will never be allies. When you have a long-term common enemy, China, there will be strong incentives for both to work together to counter this threat. Having a common enemy doesn't mean that you become friends automatically, but the more time the two countries spend working together, the greater the chance that these two countries develop closer ties in other areas. I am not saying it is a certainty, but the probability is high that you will see these two countries becoming stronger partners in the coming decades.
@@JonySmith-bb4gx Then how come India is still 85% Hindu while no European country follows its real religion - all got r*ped by middle eastern christianity.
@@pranavingale6850 yeah we saw how great u are in Australia balesh dhankar In USA as Nikhil Gupta In Canada rajbir Singh In USA again nishad Singh . Yes u don't steal like Chinese .u steal like rndian u are . Chinese don't steal they work hard . That's why u lost to china
Peter, liked your viewpoints for most parts except one when you said relationships, especially western countries relationships are based on trust and sacrifice. Most Asian countries have exact opposite opinions about western countries, they think western countries are more transactions oriented
Your videos are always fun to watch - they're educational and fun at the same time 😊 Could you please make a video about the Baltic states and how do you see the future of this region? Greetings from Latvia 😊 🇱🇻
Ah! I lived on Ft. Ord for three years. Being part of the Monteray, Carmel environment I was in one of the most beautiful parts of the U.S. rent free. I miss it.
India has a rich, affluent and well respected diaspora integrated all over the world, including China. They’ll be able to lobby favourable terms with their new countries, theres no isolation like you mentioned.
India is no stabilizing influence, they only care about making money and looking the other way when war criminals and dictators murder their own people or invade innocent nations.
Thanks for a bit of enlightenment on India. I am really hoping we can get them more on our side,but as you say that is unlikely to happen. Ho hum. Thanks again
I think India.. will fare the best in the long term.. simply because how self sufficient it is and is becoming. I'd put my money in the Indians to keep themselves United, develop themselves & continue growing.
@@pranavingale6850 Had partition not happened, the ethnic, religious and cultural impacts of partition would also not have happened. Whole populations would not have fled for their lives or been killed in the process. The politics, law and general sense of nationhood would have been different, perhaps very different to what exists today, in both what is currently India and what is currently Pakistan. For example it would have made it much harder for religious nationalism to dominate either.
@@andrewwatson5324 naah dude! You think your abrahamic cousins would have been happy to be under the pagan rule? I mean we have around 200 million Muslims, and they already create so many problems, add another 220 mil of pak and 150 mil of Bangladesh! You know what I stand correct! One indian subcontinent......uh .....no thank you
Take that with a grain of salt: India's military procurement practices have always been a clown show. To be fair, France's military export practices have always been a clown show. So the two of 'em are basically made for each other, but only so long as you're uninterested in anything actually resulting from it.
India works with Russia, France, Iran, Israel, Japan, South Korea, Germany, Saudi Arabia, UAE etc on many military and economic projects but most westerners assume we don't have any friends....sure we are not military allies with any one but that makes it easier to do business with those who wouldn't if they felt India was on the other team.
France and India are actually minor trade partners. India buys a few weapons from France (and from many other countries) and thats it. Check "list of largest trading partners of India" on wiki, France isnt even on the list.
well, the thing about India being boxxed in between hostile neighbours preventing it from expanding their influence through maritime means only applies as long as it is boxxed in by hostile neighbours. Should the organizations for south asian cooperation come to fruition this would greatly enhance indias capability to focus its resources elsewhere.
I don't see where he was saying that India is confined by hostile neighbors. He was making a point about geography - that India is insular because mountains, deserts and jungles keep them in and their enemies out. The rest is ocean.
@@douglassun8456 There was a point where he said that India would have problems becoming a major naval power when surrounded by land borders with hostile powers. Which, between Pakistan to the west and China to the north, it is (and probably glad that the Himalayas form a significant boundary with the latter), especially since a lot of the other countries around India have significant Chinese influence.
@thepoet82 I don't mind as long as you don't call it "Hindustan", connoting that it is the land of "Hindus". It caused immense damage & ruined her case on Kashmir. Hindustan is a historic "Persianism" for this country. And denizens of Hindustan were called "Hindus" by implication. The local religious group didn't give that name to themselves, but had to accept what others called it. On partition: Concurrent with independence, the country was split in two - one for the Muslim majority (kind of a homeland for "Indian" Muslims),while the other shouldn't be for Hindus alone, but for all non-Muslims (of course it is a fact that Hindus are in majority). The Western version (of some) that "Pakistan is for Muslims & Hindustan for Hindus" caused immense damage to the image of India.
Historically countries have tried to conquer the globe, had brief success and then gone in to oblivion. Largely Indian history does not demonstrate a tendency to go after territorial gains just for the heck of it to show that they are a global power. In modern times, it has a young workforce that is educated and capable of running big corporations and so can expand their softpower and ensure there is more co-operation and collaboration between countries for the common good of humanity. They understand wars in general are too expensive and capable of destructing the economies of those who engage in it. Today the US is a shadow of its mighty power much of it expended through unnecessary wars that could have been avoided. Lastly, technology is changing so rapidly that producers want to monetize it quickly to cash on the opportunity and so are available to many countries. This has increased the fire power of even smaller nations and so has made it dufficult to turn war into a winning strategy for anyone. Russia-Ukraine is a typical example. India will never want to conquer neighbouring countries but will use its full force when provoked or when its security is threatened.
Happy New Year Peter. Hope they offered you lunch over at the Officer's Mess afterwards. The Indians will do alright. Looking forward to a really exciting 2024 🎉🎈🇦🇺
Fantastic talk. The art of saying things that sound articulate and expert level but are not. Please watch his show with Joe on Russia Ukraine conflict to understand the depth of his analysis.
My experience with India and Indians over last 30 years is that Indians are very transactional in their business/personal and strategic approach. Indians will never be allies to anyone - strangely even among themselves. States within India often have hostile relations with each other. It will be an interesting 22nd century.
I mean, before the British Empire colonised the Indian subcontinent, there was no "India". there were many different small Indian states that had a love/hate relationship with eachother.
@@LevisH21the mauryan empire unified the subcontinent far before Britain, India is a name that is derived from Indus which is what the Greeks used when talking about India
@@KaranPatel-gj3izThe Mauryan Empire did not last and the Indian subcontinent again fell apart. Same with the Guptas, Delhi Sultanate are Mughal Empire. The Maratha Empire collapsed into a Confideracy.
@@mudra5114 Every empire fell apart everywhere on earth. It is natural India remain united under moryan , gupta . delhi sultnate , mughal , maratha , british india and today india . And india is not nation state but civilizational state and its culture make it united
the rise and fall of all of those empires are still a part of Indian/Dharmic Civilization.... just like the fallen British Empire is still a part of British history and civilizational identity. The Westphalian concept of a nation state is different from the Indian/Dharmic Concept of a civilizational identity and history.@@mudra5114
Happy new year fellas ! Well I don't agree that india can't be close to the west. India & russia are close because of the trust and decade long history of support when the rest of the world decided to choose a military dictatorship. It's evident that morality has no place in geopolitics hence we learned a valuable lesson, India needs to worry about Indians first. If some energy is left, then we can focus outward.
@djsngolossy6237 indeed , but india prefers russia over USA because of the decades long continuous support. This doesn't mean we will rally behind russia to the battlefield, we will not. We just prefer reliability and if the west is really serious about India then they will have to earn our trust. That's how strong friendships and partnerships are built.
Indian people are really intelligent. India is growing fast and it is searching a respectable place that it deserves in the world. India is neither friend nor foe of the west. India is a peace loving country. In times of emergency, India even helps her enemies. It is the Hindu culture that drives India in the path of righteousness.
Hey Peter, As an Indian I was pleased to hear your opinion on the future of India. As an engineering student in Germany I would like to know your opinion on the future of the European Union as a whole. More specifically do you think that the EU is more likely to fall apart in the future?
@@user-nu9zv9bq3n True. He was positive on France, optimistic on the U.K. and Spain (?) although both have some issues to address, and quite negative on Germany. The rest of Europe was nothing spectacular besides the E.U. as a whole is at a crossroads.
@@user-nu9zv9bq3n maybe but the eu isn’t just Germany is it it includes 27 countries such as France Italy and Spain which are major regional powers in Europe
Great point about India and the Persian Gulf. If the U.S. leaves, the world has another oil crisis, and the U.S can finally decide to be petroleum independent, who will fill the power vacuum? It would be whoever can get there firstest with the mostest - India.
India already has a good relationship with most of the Arab world (even Iran). Only Turkey, Pakistan, Azerbaijan and Qatar are hostile but they are hostile to everyone so no surprise there.
@@tony16991 turkey has to cross three seas to get there. And that is if at all egypt allows them to use suez. Else they have to cross 2 oceans to get there. Iran is a good shout but its one of the belligerents.
@@kth6736Iran is far less competent militarily than India. This is because their military is really just a domestic police force now that Iraq is destroyed. Iran is constrained by their geography, so will never be able to have a navy of any size (which is why they are betting on missiles and drones). Also Theocracies tend to be bad at everything IMHO. All the best.
@@ivancho5854 Iran has a decently educated society and good relations with Russia and China. They can build any number of ships they want. I wouldn't take them lightly. They are a top tier power.
@@kth6736 Yea, right - then you woke up. They aren't going to build a decent navy because they lack the heavy industry, technology, experience and most importantly their coastline has virtually no infrastructure. Isn't Iran the only country in the world without a navigable river? And you think that they can have a navy! Iran showed that during the Iran-Iraq war that they were worse than Russia at employing meat wave attacks. Incompetent doesn't come near to describing how bad they are at anything except beating to death unarmed women on the streets by gangs of decency police! Iran is a JOKE. GET IT?
If u really want to understand geopolitics of INDIA,,,you should point out who is behind Pakistan with money and support to harm INDIA. Now you got the answer,how can u expect INDIA will be like friends with such country who is infact against INDIA.
I think even centuries ahead, maybe once deglobalisation has taken full steam and maybe, who knows, we wouldnt know much about the other side of the world, India will always have a very special place in the hearts of Anglo peoples, especially those of UK, Australia, etc. Because of the shared history once upon a time. I think historians will look back at cities like Bombay, Madras and Calcutta (today Mumbai, Chennai and Kolkata) and even read about them through rose tinted glasses.
I'm confused. How does having no advantage to expanding on land imply that India can't become a naval power? At this time, I can see that challenges with Pakistan and China make the Indian Navy the third child in the military. But in the long term there is nothing that India can due with its Army. So, both for its own security and its influence in the Indian Ocean, it seems like over time India will expand its Navy and the aviation resources associated with it.
Britain and America could become Naval powers cuz Britain is basically an island while USA land borders are secured so they could go navy all in while India having an issue with its land border from China and Pakistan will never be able to go navy all in and hence wud never become a naval super power.
What i think regarding the future of India is not mentioned enough, is climate change. Their deaths due to climate getting rougher are already in the thousands and it is growing exponentially.
From what I have seen so far, societies that give up having kids end up having high economic growth due to leaser and luxuries just to find themselves dying of when they end up with none to inherit economic growth.
I think the constant actions taken by the US in favour of Pakistan and china in the beginning and also helping Pakistan when it invaded India, really pushed India towards Russia, India is still dealing with American decisions that has only empowered hostile nations surrounding India. Not to mention the Khalistan Issue and the funding of terrorism conducted on Indian soil.
Fucking true
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@@manvirjudge8156I did not know 7.8% GDP considered as Downfall
@@manvirjudge8156 Using laughing emoji and thinking you checkmated other While giving random figures to sound intellectual is the *most cringe thing ever existed*
Actual World Bank data: *Poverty rate at $3.10 a day (2017 PPP) (% population): 34.50% in 2021*
@@manvirjudge8156 you're the one coping lassi
Super interested in being as good a friend to India as is suitable though, as an Australian. And we will have many cricketing dramas in the coming decades. Can't wait for the next Border-Gavaskar series! 🇦🇺❤🇮🇳
We're not worried, we're the bilateral kings, it's only in the ICC events that we choke.😂
@@Xinnie_The_Flu I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE WE LOST THE WORLD CUP 😭😭😭 but well played Australia 😭👍👍
Cheers mate 🇦🇺🇮🇳
@@Vinayak800 the most embarrassing loss in the final after playing the entire world cup like a fucking boss. 😂
Australia and India get the situation (China!) and are completely aligned as long as Oz doesn't start enabling Khalistanis (who just murdered a moderate Sikh in NZ) like the US and Canada - doesn't seem like that's happening so we're good! I love watching India-Oz tests - great cricket all around usually. Hopefully the US will stop mucking around in the Ukraine and focus on Asia properly, as well as stop antagonising India and we can all make the world and especially the Indo-Pacific a safer place.
As an Indian i am saying India wont ever be in the race of replacing US. We just want do better for ourselves , currently we are only looking forward to develop ourselves , not looking forward to become the global police of the world. We neither want to invade anyone else , just want to reclaim our lost land in PoK and LoC.
Sometimes I feel these western political analysts are doing this on purpose to instigate hate towards India .
we may become no 1 in technology , infrastructure and happiness index for our populace over a period of time, we will only organically expand and include more people of the world as our own to extend that warmth rather than expand land wise or steal their resources or occupy their lands by killing the natives- reminded of countries like usa uk australia france china ?😅. but again we are not necessarily against the people of these occupier countries as well, only against some of their bad decisions .
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Your so-called land was stolen by the British from other countries.
Well said ..they r so obsessed abt themselves that they are trying to portray themselves as ideal in their loosing game
You are right that India is not an ally of west but India is also not anti- west. The current distrust between India and west is beacause of historical factors however they are diminishing every day. And when you have a population of 1.5 billion to feed then you can't really choose sides other than the side that would benifit your own people.
It’s still continuing because Canada and the US still supports groups like the Khalistanis working to destabilize India. Just yesterday, Punjab police arrested 2 US-based smugglers.
No Gaurav, you can clearly see that India has their own agenda. Look at the "murder program" that the BJP party tried to do on American soil. You are very "Anti-West" trying to hire "hit men" to kill American citizens that as "anti-western" as it gets.
Does help the media tried to paint Modi as Hitler.
Ye log samaj te hai ki inke bina duniya nahi chal sakta .
Watch what happens when India becomes too big for the West's liking.
I have travelled all over india and being influenced by their culture all along in my life though I am not an Indian by birth.
I find India as a complex nation with massive diversity and unity in such diversity.
Despite being pro western in their thinking but very deeply rooted in their own culture in every aspect of life
They are likely to pursue their own foreign policy and will do it well
They may not become a global power but one that can’t be ignored
‘Like an elephant 🐘 in the room’
This aptly fits this nation
india will be largest economy by the year 2060, its religious and spiritual influence will be all over the world, i do forsee europe and america becoming regional power in the future in the age of resurgent india and china
@@utubetruthtelleryes , india is rising from the ashes
Servus , my Bavarian friend ...
India was a civilisational superpower for millennia. Its forte is in the cultural and spiritual realms. Aspiring after economic and military power beyond a point of sufficiency would be counterproductive, especially for India.
@@utubetruthtellernope
The biggest difference between India and USA is that historically India has been broken up by external forces and USA has been added to by force. Obviously the geopolitics in both places is going to be different.USA does not really have a consistent foreign policy as it is generally decided by its military complex and ‘friendships’ are monetarily motivated.India does have a consistent foreign policy which the west especially USA finds fairly difficult to understand because it is not always self-serving. Any analysis about India made in the west falters heavily because it can never take into consideration civilizational and cultural aspects which USA completely lacks. Only time will tell which policy has longevity. India in this respect has a track record of not burning bridges,USA does not.
India has been hostile towards its own citizens in the past and still religious wars going on in the current government. India will not stand in the future and furthermore most of the millionaires who could have made impact in India have been leaving the country and joining the US or other western nations. With truth being said India will die in the next 40 years with low birth rate and communal disputes within its own country. The problem with most Indians is that they cannot gulp the truth that India is divided under the current regime, so many atrocities are done in the name of religion and power. So many youngsters or work force are fleeing the nation to a safe place and what remains in India only age old people who are waiting to die when their time comes. India is not going further anymore.
Very true
What civilization are you talking about ???
Civilization of open defecators and gutka/paan spitters?
India has been broken up by external forces? Which ones?
C@@RR-pc7yv Britishers. They broke India and made Pakistan and Bangladesh.
India will never be global superpower like the erstwhile USSR or the USA, but India will never perish either. It will keep growing both, militarily as well as economically, and will become a significant power. It will look after its own interests and will not become a proxy of one country against another. All power centres would like to have good relations with India.
India will become a superpower but never a hegemonic power like USA used to be.
India was but kinda superpower when every other country was living under rocks. So IG Indian civilization is best for becoming superpower and lead world with law and order unlike US which has always been like a villain for world
I don't think it wants to be a "superpower" in the modern sense of the world. To be a superpower, you have to go and do all these stupid interventions all over the place (as of now). It may become a superpower in other ways, like an economic superpower (similar to how the United States was pre WWI), and a military power that punches above its weight class (like Yugoslavia did). It's cultural reach is limited to the former Cold War era Second World and third world. No one in the West really cares to experience it unless it's for views lol. For example, idk why people are fanboying over RRR (what about something like the Aalavandhan rerelease which has gotten little attention here)? India is going to become what the United States should have been-- strong states rights, central government focusing on mainly external issues when internal development can be handled by the states, non interventionism, and a focus on trade.
@@megatron1560I wouldn't go as far as to say that the United States was always a "villain for the world", because it's a big country, and a lot of people in that country have a lot of power and autonomy. So it's really a mixed bag, there are a lot of good things the United States does, you won't hear much about them because it's an expectation. If you do bad things, well people should hear about it because you are abusing your power and being a damn bully.
Frankly world domination has never interested indians. India will become a power but if it's going to be a super , is of doubt. If that ensures harmony in the world then that will motivate for sure. But India too has a lot many people who are monetarily motivated so if proper channels are policies are made in the country they won't hesitate to compete against the world
Peter nailed it. India is a whole world unto itself, always will be. Past conquerors of India, like Alexander the Great, the Moslem Moguls, then the British Empire, all left traces of their presence, but all were absorbed by India which never gave up being entirely Indian, simply too huge to dent.
Alexander never conquered India! That's a myth. According to greek historians, he defeated king Porus or Purushottam an erstwhile small king at the brink of river Indus in western India. Our historians tell Purushottam defeated the much larger greek host, and that's why Alex the great had to retreat back.
There were much bigger kingdoms in the central India whose military strength (Millions of soldiers and cavalry, hundreds of thousands of war elephants) at that point of time would have left the greeks and persians in a ziffy. That's the resason why persians didn't expand east at that point of time.
👆 Just google. It will hardly take a few minutes to find.
@@sandeeppanda7879 I think Alexander won those battles. If he had lost he and his army would have been wiped out, given that they were very far from home surrounded by hostile neighbors. However, you are right that Alexander didn't conquer all of India - he only got the northwest corner to (and not really beyond) the Indus river. As far as being able to conquer the rest of India - we will never know since he was forced to turn back by his army, so we are told. Before turning back he conquered the Indus valley.
Isn't that how America was supposed to work according to our Founding Fathers? Invite different people into the midst but remain true to some Founding principles? Somewhere America messed up by interfering with every other country on Earth and then believing that opening the border to everyone would magically bring diversity and unity. It did no such thing.
India instead dealt with various cultures, incorporated some left other things aside, concentrating on creating a strong family unity first before running off trying to conquer the world. India has much to give to the world without running around playing boss of the hill.
@@ingehanson America interfering with every country in the world? So, I guess the US should have sat out world war 2 then. When most countries ended up becoming a hegemon (Rome, China, Ottoman Empire, etc) they tended to conquer their enemies, then wipe out or attempt to wipe out their cultures. The US conquered Japan, then instead of wiping them out or incorporating them as American territory they set them up as an independent nation, and Japan thrived. Also, I have zero sympathy to these turd world nations who have benefited from a global economic system protected with US tax dollars. If these nations are still crap holes maybe you need to look to your corrupt "leadership" for your money they stole. If your country didn't benefit from the US keeping the sea lanes open - that is the cost of not allying with them during the cold war.
As far as those of you who are upset with the US trying to impose western decadence (LGBTQCRAP) on your nations and cultures - just realize there are a lot of Americans who are just as pissed off at having this crap imposed upon us as well. If you guys really don't like it then why don't you guys go and burn rainbow flags in June in protest. The current administration would have a hard time convincing the American people to attack your countries to uphold progressive decadence because, like the talk of the US invading Syria back during the Obama years, a lot of us will be telling our reps to NOT get involved in your countrys' assertion of your traditional values because we don't have a real national interest in imposing foreign corruption on you folks.
alexander never conquered india . He came back from afghanistan fearing large indian armies . There was rebellion in his army not to fight with indian empires
India should always remember this quote while dealing with US..."To be an enemy of US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal"
And what does that quote mean anyway? Absolutely nothing. People repeat this quote as if it is saying something. It does not say anything at all. It is the most foolish quote of all times.
@@ppen8359 this quote comes true in 1971 Indo Pak war
@@ppen8359 It means nothing. It is just something a majority of Indians try to harp-on because that's what we were brought up with. Given a chance every single one of us will gladly move to the US (including the OC) even as the GOI takes all measures to increase strategic partnership with the States.
@@ifyouknow-sl6zv It has been more than 50 years since we fought that war. Just grow up! The world has moved on, and that includes Bangladesh.
US friends are all very strong though. What about the friends of China, Russia? How well are they doing? Is there any?
fairly accurate assessment -- India never going to multilateral ally of the west neither will be a foe. But India invading middle-east for energy is far fetched. It's not in our nature, we would rather put our energy in diversifying our sources. Same with China, we don't have ill feeling about Chinese people but we are very capable of defending ourselves from China (or anyone else) if any threat arises. So we will do business with them on a term mutually agreeable to both, will not be pressurized by the West.
So that means when India talks about becoming a superpower it means economics only and sufficient military power to protect itself, not to invade others or be world's police.
He doesn’t mean land invasion . Naval blockades of our energy routes will be enough to trigger that use of force.
@singularsink
I congratulate for your clarity in approach.
@singularsink
Not only "far fetched", but outright "stupid", that only an American can think. Height of "stupidity" is America!
the only issue with china is communism , which incidentally is a western export to China. Once communism is booted out of China, it will have no probs with India
@@sarvatail773
Then how is that PRC has embarked on trade or "profit" as motive (even "lending money" to other countries & enjoying that interest)? Communism precludes profit motive & Economy should be as directed by the "State". Use of visible coercive principle (Communism) to control population. In that sense they are exploiting Communist principles to serve political ends, ordering society in uni -directional orientation, laid down by (ruling) party. Visible Communist aspect is the lack of elections (universal suffrage). Westerners judge a democracy by this principle, to conclude that lack of it is Communism.
India being located in one of the most strategic shipping routes in the world with such a huge markets means that it doesn’t need to cosy up with it’s land neighbours as much and shipping is the most widely used and cheapest way of transporting goods which can make India a manufacturing hub for the world cuz India can make both great quality products and cheaper quality ones can allow them to crack both higher valued markets (like the west) and lower valued markets (like South east asia ,latin amerca or Africa)
@ayushc5704
I believe in the latter half of your statement, only when someone abroad craves for one Indian product above all others. India doesn't know that she doesn't know, what is Technology, what are "standards" and how branding is done.
No country can prosper without a peaceful neighborhood.
China did deal with Russia, US has canada and Mexico. We are basically surrounded by hostile/near hostile countries.
Not enough deep ports …
I would NEVER bet on manufacturing in India. India will always manufacture high cost low quality products. The reason is labor unions. Indians will never give you cheap things ever. China gave cheap things because it was bonded labor.
India does not need the US. It grows at 7%, the highest rate among major economies. India will be three times the largest economy than US economy in 40 years.. I am very worried about the quality of American products and the workforce is not productive. Just take NASA, it is very inefficient compared to ISRO. And look at GM and ford and compare them with JLR/ Tata or BYD, NIO in the area EV. The US is a declining power., unless it cooperates with India. However, India does not need the US for its growth. That is the reality.
India will be on the top not by subjugating others, but by cooperating and helping.
It's funny when Americans talk about trust, loyalty, friends.
@@KrishDogVlog24 😃😁😅
India has no interest or intention of subjugating anyone...
Hey Peter, I'm here in China - been here for a LONG time. The relationship between China and India is very complicated, to say the least. Funny to see that they are in BRICS together. But could you do a video solely on the India and China relationship? Thank you sir! Happy New Year!
As an Indian there are a lot of very prominent and well respected journalists and even some ministers and civil servants questioning this during the recent BRICS and BRI summits, the rationale that the Indian govt has is to essentially replace China in those groupings after they decline
China is a bully and a danger to all its neighbors. And india is indular and self protectionist...so India will clash with China over their shared border and over Himalayan water access in the future. And when China collapses, India will likely move into Nepal in some way. Brics will fall apart soon when russia collapses. India will grow more insular, but with a foot towards the west, as they see russian weaponry for the trash it is .
India is in BRICS solely due to FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out), and that's something non Indians and many intentionally blind Indians refuse to accept. This is the same reason India joined SCO, because Pakistan was joining. India does not want a situation where India's enemies are in multilateral groups bashing India (like Pakistan in OIC).
To summarise and understand the Indian psyche/ way of thinking, India has 2 + 1 + 0.5 enemies. 2 big ones are Islam and China (China being newer and less understood by Indians). The next 1 is the United States, less of a problem than the first 2 but still big, because US has no real friends and will always backstab if necessary. The last 0.5 are internal enemies. Separatists, maoists, naxals, neo-liberals, anarchists, Hindu haters, etc.
@@adityapratapsharma5325hahaha.. Replace China is Brics? There is no Brics without China. Indians should stop deluding themselves. You are far too weak to try to play the big game. The ONLY reason you have been allowed to make noise last few years is China. The Americans want you to fight China till the last Indian. They do that.
We Indians don't consider China an enemy only suspicious of their govt ambitions. Chinese people are great people. Many Indians marry them..lately Indians have got to know more of China and Chinese cities. Few utubers have shown us China. People want to visit. Many Indian students there. If borders are queit I see both countries coming closer. Trading heavily
Because its close. We need them,they need us. Its like Canada US. We both depend on eachother. This relationship has to work for progress of both countries. We dont interfere in Chinese politics,they dont interfere in ours. So no real differences exist. We both are close Russian, saudi, iranian friends. So much convergence of friends and intrests. They want same things as we do. India only doesn't want to be pressured on borders and wants settled borders
Indians do not have friends in the West and North but have friends all over the world with a strong mutual respect rather than a ruler and ruled relationship.
I would say Russia is at North who is an ally of us.
@@Khader1093 Wrong. India has no friends. Russia is not a friend of India. No Russian ever died for India ever. If India goes at war then Russia does not have any power whatsoever to do anything for India.
I would say the UK is also a friend.
Stop with your false narration. India is a dumping ground of the west😂😂
@@InVinoVeritas4ever You're joking, right? The UK?!!
India built its own aircraft carrier. The INS Vikrant. That seems to show an impressive manufacturing/technology capacity. What am I missing?
Well, it took almost a decade longer than expected and needed more foreign components than specified. I recommend Perun's recent video on Indian arms procurement for further information. Still, I agree with you that India's building of a carrier and their sincere efforts in that area are important. However, Vikrant is not as much of a game-changer as you seem to imply.
India has a number problems that defeat mobilization of Labor, a deeply ingrained communist ideology and the caste system. Good luck with changing either of these🎉
@@mattblom3990 An indigenous Ballistic Missile Defense Program, Fighter Jets, Helicopters, Supersonic Cruise Missiles, Nuclear Triad Delivery Systems, NaVIC independent Navigation Systems, Space program that lands successfully on the Moon for less than a Hollywood movie budget?
@@mikefallwell1301 caste system? Really? You still snort that nonsense. Oh wait! Do you even believe in the Aryan theory too?
@@mikefallwell1301 "deeply ingrained communist ideology" ? the funniest sh*t I've heard. India is the definition of raw capitalism.
If u look at last 3000 years of history, India's economic engagement had been enabled by maritime route....
5000 - 8000 plus years since indus valley times the indus acted as an water high way and most cities were built near rivers for easy transportation
To be honest Mahajanpada period wasn't depend on maritime trade. It's south India that was involved in maritime trade. There was everything.
@@-rate6326but entire India depended on this maritime route, mahajanapadas were still manufacturing raw materials and finished products that were exported
@@Snoozefor10minutes of course they are exporting but were they dependent on it? No
I’d also like to point out india is extremely close to Israel and France, both those countries have supported India, those countries are our best bet of forming closer ties with India. It’s hard to constantly act against a country and expect them to be friendly towards us. India has gone from 200 years of British rule to immediate wars supported by the US against it.
@ kevinnagar7539 Absolutely right.. you are.. One can add Japan and Russia to this list of friends..
India is socialist and is a bootlicker of Russia. Americans don't need to be friends with India which is a corrupt and backwards society.
@ kevinnagar7539
India has many friends with deep understanding of India. India thanks them all appropriately. Israel and France, were specially picked because at the present juncture, the three are helping each other in military matters, keeping the door open for any negotiations with others. When democracy is in peril from outside attack, it needs military help too, from friends.
@@Truthfully12312 Indians are fierce fighters? What war experience does India have? As for the Chinese all of the immigrants out of Beijing, Shanghai, and Hong Kong don't like Indians. In fact, I have never met one Asian that likes India, they tell me Indians will stab their own family in the back over money. Most of these Indian "family values" produce lots of criminals and gang members when they immigrate to Western countries. What "family values" are being taught in Indian homes to produce such criminality?
You are absolutely right Sir ✅️
I don’t ever imagine India invading in the Gulf even for energy. They usually buy from various countries all over including Russia, Saudi, US and are trying to reduce the dependence on oil by 2050. Indians have participated in peacekeeping forces thru the UN. The big picture currently is build out of infrastructure as the Indians want to grow their economy.
India invading Gulf ? This expert is on weed. USA has attacked Middle eastern countries for oil
Well force projection will become necessary as we grow out of our third world status. And do any serious business in the world.
@@ayushroy2244 It’s not a third world or developing world issue, India is more about defending extremely hostile neighbors in the north tying up forces. It’s not an expansionist state.
Both of you are right. Only time will tell the direction India choses.
@@ag4eng I think you're right, being a strong democracy even if Indian gov. tries to grab land or attack any country (pak included) like the chinese, its own people will retaliate but if someone were to hurt India (especially pakis) then oh boy same people will make sure they pay
Out of all of the countries, I think that India will fare the best.
they have serious problems with soil degradation and drying up rivers tho, without food nothing else matters
@@captainalex157still india manages its food demand for its 1.4 billion people from within india..and also export food items at large quantity.
India has enough...when it comes to food resources
@@durgeshsss right now, but look at the data there is a clear trend and it doesnt look good.
Oh yeah i forgot that the chinese are also damming up many of indias rivers in the himalayas.
@@captainalex157 You are wrong on certain things.
India's river originate in Himalayas. And the source of origin of most of these rivers are within India. The starting point of some of the rivers might be in Tibet but the tributaries within India are the major feeders to these rivers.
Many other rivers are rain fed. And the source of these rivers are the Indian monsoons or rainy season.
Soil degradation is mostly a non-issue. Though in some areas which have been originally arid, there are now agricultural fields. These fields are irrigated with ground water. The hypothesis is that when the ground water diminishes then these areas will suffer a fall in agricultural activities. Thus, leading to soil degradation.
Therefore, what you are talking about is limited to just few areas.
Only an indian says that
I have always found India to be very predictable with regards to its foreign policy; India will ALWAYS make choices that are best for India. In my opinion, that makes them a stable force in the region. With increased economic ties, India may choose to be more amenable towards maintaining a cordial relationship with the West simply because increased manufacturing is good for the Indian economy.
Sounds like a win-win. That's the way business is supposed to work.
As we go forward, the west will need India more than India needs the west. This sounds ludicrous now, yet only the wealthy among the west will be able to afford Indian products around 2045. India has been pillaged and looted to build the Islamic world and the Anglo Saxon world. We have these lessons deeply ingrained in us. A land destroyed over a span of 800 years, will have scars that shall influence the relations with the rest of the world.
THIS!! Western media loves to shit on India because we didn't support Ukraine, but we stayed neutral to maintain good relationship with the Russians. We got discounted fuel from Russia, many Indian companies filled in the void created due to western companies leaving Russia due to sanctions and most importantly, we prevented the Russians from becoming overly dependant on the Chinese.
We regularly Join and maintain relationships in regional multilateral groupings to provide a counterweight to the Chinese and limit their influence in the Indian Ocean region.
India might probably never reach the heights USA and China reached, but that's honestly fine.
@@atharwamalawade259 When the Western media shi*s on India, India need only tell the world, it is not India that is engaged in endless wars.
As you put it Indians can fill the void. "Find a need and fill it."
That's why India will never be a big power, they base relationship on how much you will give them, but don't ever ask them for anything. Africa is kind of the same way. It's Called ME ME ME These are one sided relationship nobody likes. India has to ask itself why they never grow like china.
Id also remind that India was a economic superpower up until 1700s and it wants to regain its power back. Its that sentiment that drives a nation unlike the boxed thinking of any analyst.
@nishantkumar05
If it is so till 1700, it means there is stuff in Indian Economy and that it isn't hollow. India wants to exploit this advantage to better the condition of her 1.5 billion people.
My fellow Vishwagurujeet, don't compare 1700s with the 2020s
@@rishavkumar1250
Point (very well) taken.
Yet, horribly short on Self-confidence, they (Indians) need something to fall back upon. What better than the cozy"past" that doesn't talk back?
"My grandpa used to drink desi ghee. Smell my mouth (if you want proof), Ha!" - says a saying.
100 yrs back everyone underestimated what India can be in 2024
India did not exist as a country/was not a state in 1700. Most of the wealth was not held by the average Indian but by the elites mostly Muslim.
India is a practitioner of true diversity. Many gods many friends. Live & let live type of people
Lol yeah the Hindu absolutely love the muslims ehh?
Dude whsts you racing crew? What rims you have car?
@@raymondk6721 hey ya I bought my slick ET tires in alibaba on singles day.
@@closer20jc the opposite is true
@@shreyangshumodak8923 We know. Our Holy Book says that Polythiests and Chews are thr most Hostile to us. For obvious theological reasons
The Indian Army, staffed by more than 2.5 million volunteers, arguably saved the British Empire and the Allies 1939-1941. The Indians have that experience in painful sacrifice to an alliance, even though it was a colonial arrangement; the fact that ( unlike US, UK or Australia) Indian troops weren't conscripts was quite unique.
That these people volunteered is a testament to how efficiently and thoroughly the British managed to impoverish India.
@@jirik2435 Or how much they respected the British in comparison to the swindling Muslim and Hindu babus that they were carrying on their backs for generations.
Face it. The Raj wasn't was "conquest", it was a JV between desis fed up with the Mughals and Hindu elites, finding better pay, better, more humane treatment and honorable service with the foreigner than the domestic crooks.
Be as bitter as you will, but millions of natives worked for the British Raj, profitably and contentedly. It took a lot of prompting by corrupt self-interested elites (Nehru-Gandhi criminals for the most part, aligned with the fake Muslim Jinnah) to create the situation that led to British departure - and at that, without a fight or any attempt at oppressing the locals.
The brainwashing that Marxists and Indian nationalists do, is basically proof of how much they have to try and make desis hate The British.
And right after that they went for independence. I am pretty sure the British Empire is not an example of India having a pleasent experience with foreign alliances.
@@myyoutubelikes Glad someone said it. Indians on that stolen valor. For colonial oppressed lol.
Oh this going be interesting Hindu Warriors on Arab lands taking their oil. LOL 🤣 Hey Colonizer. You do have to wonder India's Navy is ten times more powerful than it needs to be. It is design to invade other nations.
Indias biggest export will be - People. These people will bring India closer to those Countries. Indians make better citizens than many of the other alternatives!
so true. when they see someone like Vivek, they think "he's just like that hardworking family oriented humble coworker I know"
Canada. More Sikhs in parliament, representing all parties, than Sikhs sitting in the Lok Sabha.
@@tanler7953sikh is less than 2% of India’s population. We had sikh prime minister for 10 years. We also had Sikh president.
For Canada, Sikh community runs your drug business and they have very stronghold in politics with drug money. In US there is Mexican drug cartel but Mexicans do have any drug cartel in Canada. My point is not to characterise all Sikh as drug dealer or in drug business.
@@tanler7953Canada is a country with 40 million population, and it is not even a country, it is just a secret extension of USA. Don't compare it with India, a nation with 1430 million population and a diversity Canada can never imagine. So, don't compare.
@@tanler7953How many Hindus, Jains, Buddhists does Canada have in their Parliament?
The Indian diaspora where a significant number of Indians move to other countries could eventually impact US and Indian relations. I see a lot of comments from Indians supporting Guyana in their dispute, and they openly attribute that to the fact that a significant percentage of that country are descendants of Indians. I also think the insular non-expansion policies that the Indian government is taking may help increase Indian's political clout in their part of the world, especially if China continues its current expansionist policies and questions are raised about the possibility of the US pulling back its forces in SE Asia, like it is doing in the Middle East.
I'm impressed - good knowledge
That’s, because Indians are citizens there so are some Asians. The British brought them there as workers long ago.
India is supplying radars and missiles to Armenia with france India also supplied brahmos supersonic cruise missiles to phillipines..The one thing you forgot to mention is India is stepping up its defence industry by jointly producing weapons with us,russia,france,israel
India has no friends, no free trade agreements, no alliances. India is not a "super power" it is a "hostile power" and a loner.
Oh that explains why Armenia lost😂😂😂
@@JonySmith-bb4gx after the loss, Armenia sought military equipment from India to avoid more defeats
@@JonySmith-bb4gx Armenia lost before India and the Western powers stepped in. Azeris will be in for a very rude shock if they try again.
@@JonySmith-bb4gxArmenia lost because Russia didn't help them.
A very accurate understanding of Indian foreign relations. We don't have friends or allies, we only have interests and sometimes, these interests can align.
1.4 billion Indians would do anything to protect India if they feel like our sovereignty or strategic Interests are under great threat
I always find Indian's sense of national unity quite remarkable, as if the country was always a single entity, when in fact historically it was extremely fragmented, divided by different regional cultures and languages.
@@tanler7953 We still have different cuisines, traditions, languages. It is the vision that unites us
It seems like India is where China was 30-40 years ago and as China matures i could see India steeping in to become the next world manufacturing center.
It has all the ingredients, a very large young work force that isn't afraid to work hard, English speaking, low wages, easy access to shipping, very little environmental laws. and a hunger to lift themselves out of poverty. within 20 years every item you buy will have ( made in India) on it.
Very doubtful about that.
@@mudra5114 I'm curious, please explain. thank you
@@frankprit3320 India has missed the boat. Add to that low labour productivity, rising costs of production etc...the probability of India becoming the next China is very low. I used to work for a manufacturing sector in India. Labour productivity is extremely low, compared to East Asian or Western labour, lot to third rate Engineers coming out of shady colleges, even if India has so much unemployment hard to get skilled labour, most good engineers prefer working in Software leaving very few for the manufacturing sector, lack of good research and development etc... The cost of production including land costs, labour costs etc..has increased thanks to inflation, India missed the golden period of manufacturing when the costs of inputs were very low.
@@mudra5114 thank you👍
@@frankprit3320 Welcome bud.
As an Indian , if only someone who can develop our country and make us the manufacturing giant . It will be our youth . I know many startups who are working in semiconductor technology and space .
It won't happen. Everyone lives in the northeast and your ports are south brother. The shipping of good and building of infrastructure between the north and south will take time so building manufacturing will also. India will be able to make enough goods for itself but not the world like China did. The land there isn't suitable for it and would take a long while to be made suitable. If India started now, they could make enough just in time for their population decline in say 70 years so it won't be done.
Did you just hear what he just said? Not a lot of “capital.”
@@matthewmcclary7855 another nay-sayer much like old Churchill that said was not a country but a geographical term like the equator, fasten your seat belt
@@saviop7529 I said it would take a lot and they couldn't replace China as the worlds manufacturer, but also said they will have everything they need for themselves. It took China 4 generations, 80 years, to be what they are. It would take longer for India to do it. China will only have 800,000 people while India will stay above 1.4 billion but the geographics and the shift of population needed won't happen overnight. They can do it but they would finish just in time for their expected population decline. Unless their birthrates go up, which is the opposite of what happens in developing countries, it's something that they shouldn't strive for. If they decided to just manufacture enough for say, just Asia, Europe, and parts of Africa, that could be done in a much shorter time and could be maintained by their great grandchildren. The world though, would take a lot more work and time that couldn't be sustainable with their projected population.
@@tony16991 look it up. 80% of the population is in the northeast of the country. 80% of the US population live East of the Mississippi River. 80% Mexicans live in the south of Mexico. This is basics in studying countries. People don't like living in the desert. They like water and fertile soil so they live close to it. It doesn't take a genius to know that most of the people in Egypt live close to the Nile River. You have some general studying to do before commenting on advanced topics. Good luck in your studies and respect.
There was a time during the 80's where I always imagined I would be settling in the US. As time progressed and I became more aware and mature, I realized staying in India was much better. And with the current political progressions, it will definitely rise into a nation of envy for everyone. Jai Shri Ram :)
With god's grace we will become a power big enough that everybody in the region will envy us. Jai Shree Ram! 🚩
same bhai, same.. Jai Shree Ram
Modi bhakt loo
@@akshatsingh8388 We r already in many ppls envy. How much more u need ?
Kind of agree with what u said
India & Australia are forging a closer relationship as we have close cultural ties through cricket and being for British colonies. There's also the Quad. Modi has visited Australia many times so I think that India and Australia (and by default, the west) have a closer relationship than Peter believes.
Yes my thoughts too, but noting the Indian realpolitic and surging Hindu nationalism means it's always going to steer it's own course.
Hindu nationalism will be there because of muslim nationalism we have already have been divided into two parts bangladesh and pakistan ,now we don't want more division of our country
Indians also have loads of extremely successful expats in western countries who are very westernized but still love India
Thank you for that information. I was unaware of the close relationship between India and Australia; I mourn the fact that there is so little reliable reporting on world events here in the US - the myopic naval-gazing of the US media is ridiculous and forces everyone to find their own information.
India could have had a similar relationship with Canada as it has with Australia given the cultural ties and being British colonies. But Canada’s politics has been hijacked by Khalistanis. I hope Australia learns from Canada’s mistakes and doesn’t allow any group to create ethnic enclaves (like Canada’s Brampton and Surrey) and make sure immigrants integrate into the wider Australian society.
India is trying hard to move away from Russian defence equipment and aling more with US & France but every now and then US & its allies keep making small moves which make India vary of entering into deeper alliance with US. Also as you said Peter the current India will first think about itself.
India trying to murder a citizen has definitely gave pause to a lot of countries mainly the US in terms of how much to align with India.
India really isn't trying to get closer to the west. At most they're paying lip service.
@@starchunkss They are sponsoring terrorism in India. Canada US not cooperating with India on Khalistan issue shows their intentions to destabilise India in long term.
@Electrical1112 No, what India has difficulty understanding is that US has freedom of speech. Citizens are allowed to say whatever they want even horrible things about America. India can not ignore that and take matters into their own hands and kill people that do not agree.
Yea, France will be a better solution for Indian arms requirements. There's no overlap in their spheres of influence or resource requirements, whereas India is bound to clash with the USA every so often. Actually I see French arms exports increasing in many parts of the world because the French are only really interested in a limited part of the world. Their arms are top notch too. 👍
All the best.
India will be fine in the next few decades!
They will pick up a huge amount of the manufacturing that used to be done in China.
I can see India growing *massively* in its manufacturing output.
India's space program too - that will have huge success over the next few years and decades.
I think India will eventually get on that family/friends plan. As a fellow democracy with close cultural ties and (at least in this country) Indian origin peoples doing really well and being valued contributing members of society… assuming nothing goes majorly wrong, I think it’s only a matter of time.
Happy New Year!
India will never be accepted in the Anglo club. It's a white man's club.
We'll see. Right now, it seems as though India is shedding its democracy. I think Mr Zeihan has it right--our (the US) relationship with India will be entirely transactional. Which isn't to say nothing good can come from it.
Indian government works almost in the same manner as united states constitution.
@@baa0325 the worlds largest and most diverse functional democracy and you have the gall to say it is "shedding its democracy"? It maintained democratic credentials from a very dark past when it was mired in a CIVIL WAR and REFUGEE CRISIS thrust upon it at inception and you think it will have a democratic problem now when it arguably has the winds in its sails and is in its best economic shape in generations? What you are smoking is the real good stuff, must be the Khalistan franchise supplied stuff?
India is a former democracy.
Nice...😊As Indian We are learning and improving ourselves day by day....😊🙏 thanks for your precious thoughts.... 😊❤🌹lot's of love and good wishes from my lovely India my friend.😊🙏🙏 Definitely We indians work on that 🙏
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Nice.. actually, it has almost all the landscape you need to experiment with your tech. Sea, river, swamp, island, river island, field mountain plateau, trenches, snow, lakes, desert, rainy areas, rainforest, hills, 90% of the natural geographic bodies are present in india.
India people are very diverse. India, like a big united country, has 22 official languages. There are slums, poor, middle income families. High income families and even richest people. And every religion of the world.
Only thing india lack is energy.
And it has worst opposition political party.
No we don’t lack energy , we are laid back .. some may call us lazy
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He meant natural gas and oil!!😂
Not physical energy!!
the last line is the best .... soo true ..lmao
Couldn’t agree more . ☕️
Being extremely diverse is not a strength, especially when that diversity has caused much of the instability in the region. Some examples are the Tamil uprising, Monotheistic versus Pantheistic religions, and ethnic tensions due to their caste systems.
India's naval power in the Indian Ocean is increasing signficantly, and with the introduction of long range anti ship missiles and unmanned naval vessels, combined with space assets, this will only increase further this decade. India will never match US blue water capabilities this century, but it can secure its sea lanes within the IOR.
I wish the Navy had more SSBNs and SSNs at their disposal, the only SSN we have is an Akula class we've leased from Russia.
Add to that we have Adamant Islands on the gates of Malacca Strait. Which gives Indian Navy huge strategic Advantage in East Indian Ocean.
The American Navy capabilities happened in a historic bubble of the death of the European military as a whole. Unlikely that any country can match those capabilities in the next century.
exactly..every island can be unsinkable aircraft carrier.
@@bechansingh1560 honestly the biggest impediment we have is our mollycoddled hypermoralistic masses.
As you’ve mentioned before - India’s relationship with France and Japan also will play a role
Japan is the biggest investor, France is a good major military ally with relationship increasing
What is France???😂😂😂😅😅😅
@@przemysawszelag1128 Its what me and your mum did last night.
Well Japan will but not France. France military arms market is a little to small for India.
@@tony16991 France is a joke, country that has severe internal issues, on the edge of civil war, they can only role play major power, in fact they have tiny population, no high tech (I.e. AIs) and no land army
Having worked with many people from India in Silicon Valley, I hope India can become an ally to the US. I really liked the people from India that I've worked with, and I can see a bright future for that country if that group can influence policy in India.
I've not been to India myself, so encourage any who has to correct me if they think I'm wrong. But if India can move away from a "Soviet socialist" mindset in government and more to a Western capitalist mindset that builds infrastructure, I think they could do very well economically in the next 50 years.
India is very pro west and India abandon the soviet model of growth long ago
India has capitalist mindset now.
But problem here for west is that India has his own ambitions & goal for the region which are not fully alined with US ambitions.
US want India to abandon Russia completely but that is a thing which NO Indian government can do because India has his own experiences & history with West & Russia.
@@Electrical1112 Thanks for the response.
I'll give one example of an area where I hope we could work more closely, and that is Space. I personally would be in favor of ending cooperation with Russia on the International Space Station and then including India in building a new station in low-earth orbit and then a base on the moon focused on science and commercial research.
I think India's space program will soon exceed Russia's program. The Russian space program is now just living off of the fumes of its past while dying from corruption.
PZ: not only is there an absence of trust and sacrifice in the making of the US India relationship, there is historical distrust from an India point of view. There is a strong memory of the USS Enterprise in the Bay of Bengal during the Bangladesh War of Independence (from your friends Pakistan), where the US took the side of genocidal jihadis, against a democracy. Bangladesh today is an emerging success story of the sub continent, proving that the US/Nixon/Kissinger gang of unholies was on the wrong side of history in 1971. Many such examples remain (switching off GPS by Clinton in the 1999 Kargil War) in our memories that will never allow Indians to build trust with the US let alone military alliances. We will go it alone and be succesful at becoming a large econimic power on our own. We will be friends but never allies. And I do wonder what the US mindset will be when India sets to cross the $10 trillion mark in a decade or so. It will be the only large democracy that will be an economoc powerhouse in the world that is fully independent of the US led group of Marshall Plan+ bridesmaids. How much democratic brotherly love will still be around?
Touche'
@anarchyishere8312
Clinton was within his right, in switching off GPS in the 1999 Kargil War (beggars can't be expected to dictate terms). It was tool in "his" hands.
Tocuche again!
@anarchyishere8312
Crossing $10 trillion mark is easy. GDP figures are reckoned in US$. Now 1 US$ = Rs. 81 & our GDP is US$ 3.5 trillion. make the exchange rate to 1 US$ = Rs. 27 and you'll have US$10 trillion economy.
But the crux of the problem is to how to make US$ equal to Rs.27? There lies the biggest challenge, that of managing the global FE market.
One of my favorite youtubers (arduinos vs evil) recently did a dewalt tool breakdown that was made in India and the build quality was astonishingly good. After several decades of Chinese build quality, I think we're in for a welcome "treat especial"
Stuff made in India is generally made to last until the next Great Flood😊, but the looks department though, that's err.....
@@aryaman05 I will buy a reliable car no matter how ugly it is.
Source trust me bro
@@silentvoiceinthedark5665 that's Chinese
@@JonySmith-bb4gx What car brand is it?
in short: India don’t take sides, India don’t attack, India will do what is best for it.
Happy New Year, Peter! Big fan and hope to hear your thoughts this year as things play out! Be well!
One thing that you missed Peter.... the most important Indian Export is .... INDIANS! You are right that there is an excess of 25-35 year olds that falls down sharply but a large chunk of those will be going to Western countries. Indians are the highest earners anywhere they go and in turn they start to gain political weight.... for India and Indians anywhere. The Jewish diaspora is very powerful, but they are nothing compared to the growing Indian one.
The "high earning" Indian stat tends to be miss misrepresented; it refers to household-based income.
@@imgreen2563 yes household income is analogous to individual income…. Not sure why that would misrepresent anything. 90% of Indians in the US have a bachelors degree and 50%+ have masters.
Because the majority of the bachelors degrees that Indians have are faked, US Indians may as well be completely different people culturally to mainland Indians.@@SP-wv4id
@@imgreen2563Well Indians usually live in a household. Even the most individualistic Indians live with their families.
And with high household income, every member of the household reaps it's benefits.
@@asmirann3636 The IRS only allows husband and wife income in household income
Very Good Analysis 👍🏻 India will always look after Indian interests and if these interests aligns with US it will be patner (not subordinate) of US, if it aligns with Russia , it will be patner of Russia. At the same time it can be patner of both, if its interests lies in it.
As an Indian i dont hate any nationality. We all are humans.
Works only when others think so too...
Shatrubodh is very essential for our survival..
This is the age of darkness afterall!
A very balanced and insightful perspective into the geopolitics of India and other Global countries
@@shikharrawat2298 chuck it man, the western economy is built on loot, that is all they know and understand. The entire petro dollar is the biggest con job pulled off at the expense of the rest of the world! Even East India company will be put to shame!
I see India very publicly befriending the Persian Gulf & ASEAN countries in the interest of regional security. Sri Lanka, Bangladesh or even Pakistan becomes their "Mexico" for local manufacturing and China and ASEAN can fill any other voids leftover - they have already shown their propensity to do back room deals with China, Russia, Europe & even America but any formal alliance with any of the four would probably be bad for India. Best to keep things neutral. India is honestly positioned almost like a modern-day Switzerland to weather future economic adversity or turbulence from war conflicts.
also our economic growth is driven by domestic consumption - that helps in a turbulent volatile world, as does food security (net exporter). Energy security is challenging, but India is quite serious on renewables and has tight relationships with Saudi, UAE, Russia, and Oman. As for defence, if the US doesn't pony up with advanced arms, the France and Russia are there to help. Hopefully Japan will start to develop it's arms industry potential too. The only issue with the India US partnership is the US need for subservience and willing to use terrorists (Khalistanis) to serve their deep state purposes. Hopefully Trump or another Republican will drain the swamp so both India and US can get on with cooperating against Chinese expansionaism.
@@madhukarmurthi9064 Those are great points. I think Peter's point about energy from the Persian gulf makes sense for India. It's so close regionally speaking. Also being neutral or "India First" allows for India to do business with the big giants (Russia, US, China) as a big giant itself like you pointed out. There are other weapons manufacturers coming online if US/France/Germany didn't want to play ball such as Russia, Sweden, Poland, South Korea, Israel, Brazil, Turkey and even Japan. India will have a large interest in neutralizing a Pakistani crisis or instability and protecting it's northern and eastern borders from China. It may also defer a lot of resources to the Persian gulf or Malaccha straight in ASEAN territory will require strong navy assets that can deploy to and patrol at least 2 separate regions.
@@williamdaniels9728 Yes indeed - there's an Indian naval buildup (frigates and destroyers) as we speak in the Persian Gulf / Red Sea area, I'm sure they're cooperating with the US and it's allies there (but who are we fooling - Canada and Australia sent 30 men in total with no naval vessels) not publicly though due to sensitivities. Andaman and Nicobar are ideal bases to chole the Straits of Malacca from - China is working with Myanmar on Coco Island naval base to counter. China is a serious challenger to both the US and India - the job is much easier if we can build trust and interoperability. So far, we're doig well on interoperability but not on trust!
Let us become our own "Mexico" first 😂
Bangladesh being India's Mexico is a joke of the day, when the GDP per capita nominal of Bangladesh is HIGHER THAN INDIA. So yes in a world where maybe Mexico was richer than the US. No country trusts India in the neighborhood. None. And no country wants to be India's lapdog maquiladora. Indians have enough cheap labor themselves.
People tend to forget that India is one of the oldest and most invaded countries in the world and that will always be in the background while dealing economically, politically and setting foreign policies.
That is True, India is not really expansionist
@@LisaGaming117yepp..india never invaded any country in its history
@@durgeshsss he said not expansionist. You can invade another nation without being expansionist.
@@durgeshsss India invaded Hyderabad very soon after it became a country.
@@carlbates9110Hyderabad is part of India. It is a region within India.
So taking back what is yours is not invasion.
India has a lot of potential to produce high quality products at scale, for example indian two wheeler manufacturing has outperformed Chinese and beaten them in the african market..we can do this in other sectors with the right focus and leadership..
@rewanolrwngow
. . . and a bit of "innovation" that is lacking now.
Israel seems like a friend of India, especially in the economic sense
Not just economically but emotionally also ! My dads friends itself Israelis who lived here who came here after gulf war and even they married with Our Indian women's many of them ! They go back to Israel in 1992 we still in touch there are like this so many Israelis ! India was the country where Jews don't get persecuted here also oldest Jewish tribe since last 2000 years living happily" benai nashe" Jewish tribe !
We even give refuge to them in ww2 ! One of them still live in my village he Married local women have big farmhouse and doing well in community he came back here in 2011 from Israel idk why ! He was not here before he probably take this decision to come here by his friend who is half indo-isareli ! Living happily and doing advance farming ! 😮 we all visited his place its cool ! We even give refuge to Persians when Islamic take over Iran (Persia)
I’m curious what you know about the threat China poses to indias clean water supply from the Tibetan Himalayas. I’ve heard a little about it but doesn’t get discussed much
Not really a threat… the only water problem from china is the Brahmaputra river… but fortunately for India about 80% of the rivers water is from pouring rain and not glaciers which are in China (Tibet).
Yes they have the capability to stop that 20% but negligible damage as not large segment of population lives around it.
Wow, that was a "blunt assessment" of India. But very accurate.
Peter is always blunt.
Blunt is good
Peter is blunt but not accurate and not a true realist. John Mersheimer goes deeper, is an absolute realist, and more accurate.
@@madhukarmurthi9064 LOL John is clown that repeat what 80 year old billionaires pay him says. He like you are parrots. Come here "Poly" do you want a cracker. LOL hahahahahahaha 🤣
@@madhukarmurthi9064Do John Mersheimer have a channel of his own like Peter Zeihman ?
I looked him up on Yt and there are podcasts appearances of him on random channels. But couldn't find his own UA-cam channel.
Loving the post American series! Would be great to hear about the effect of this transition in US foreign policy on the UN, WTO, IMF and the wider international organisations group. Thanks for the content!
Have intertwined relationships with a few native India folks over the years, very reserved, thoughtful, respectful with a very staunch advocacy for neutrality and taking care of their own. What has probably set the US apart is our political structure and the continuing unreliability to form, keep friends. We cannot seem to keep our hands out of others business as we think for some reason we should be the world's police. This I hope will change. If we can learn to mind our own & take of our own issues first before that of others, coupled with regaining some actual backbone once again, we could become at least a recognizable world player, once more. We cannot do this without first getting our own affairs in order. Our political structure is in shambles which has caused much of what I've discussed. The American people are a good, sound bunch. As most other folks of this world, we all just want peace and prosperity and to live in harmony. To do this, will require many ways we and others view ideas and ideologies of the current homo sapiens. Our species is that of the addictive nature, all mammals fall under this category for survival. In order that we move forward with the constraints we so far have set in stone, there must be change, and yes, our species as most does not like change. The side note to this though is, we adapt quite easily, therefore a brighter picture is merely under our noses, should we find the affinity to look down and endure. One of the main reasons our species has taken so long to evolve is this lack of unwillingness to change what we are comfortable with. One of the many things my dad mentioned to me while growing was; he said, "Boy, there's a lot of things in life you're not gonna like to do but you will do these things because it is required of you." This he said when I was about 4 yrs old while watching him shave one morning. To this day, I find no great comfort in shaving, now 64 years later but, yes, it's something that has to be done.
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That piece on "India may eventually attack the Gulf for energy & only US can counter that attack" is pure BS. It isn't in the nature of India to do that. India has a very high sensitivity to ownership as she doesn't want to be tagged as "thief".
India has plans of her own, to meet the energy needs & security. If needed India will emerge as a leading naval power.
decent analysis of india, and point on persian gulf is accurate, they go have some natural protections, overall good one.
Always makes so much sense. Zeihan actually brings “common sense” to the table.
@@shikharrawat2298when you stop watching your indian media propaganda, maybe it might make sense to you.
is he still claiming the US has no foreign truck drivers and that Gen Z is the greatest work force ever? Lol.
@@frankstallone3864 he was referring to an age group not netizens knuckle head.
@@autotechandspecs thanks for nothing tardo
@@shikharrawat2298 That isn't what he said. He said it would be useless even if we did conquer our neighbours since it wouldn't help us strategically in any way. Also, the reason he says India can't be a massive naval power is that we're too busy worrying about land-based threats like China, and Pakistan to devote that much of our budget to the navy. The US has no security threats within the Western hemisphere, Their borders are Canada and Mexico, two good friends of theirs, and the 2 biggest oceans on Earth on either side. And on the other side of both oceans, are their allies. their entire defence budget is an offence budget. Not so with us. And he isn't contradicting himself at all with his point about navies. Watch his other videos. He's very clear that he believes that only the US, Japan, The UK and France, have long-distance naval capabilities, like fighting a full-scale war on the other side of the globe. India does not have that capability, but we don't need it because the Middle East is next door. Pretty much everything we need is close by in fact.
this may be due to limited info but i have always kind of respected india as being slow and careful to act.
slow : India has attained independence in 2023. Crazy right?. It wont be slow ahead
careful: the west breathed us down our neck this long. still does, but wont be able to destabilize ahead (esp post 2025).
The spirit of Bharat does not conquer, loot nor colonize to grow an economy. The world will be better off with Bharat (India) be a dominant power, never a super power nor a moral police.
Slow? We're only 76 years old, we only got into the World Trade Organisation 50 years ago. Today we're the 5th largest economy soon to be 4th. Slow 😂
@@adhvaitchauhan8449 maybe read all the words in my comment together...
@@anonpers0n you used the word 'slow' right? Can you explain how India is slow?
@@adhvaitchauhan8449: clam down. The comment was about slow reaction to a crisis. India doesn't give knee jerk reaction
It is ridiculous to say that India and United States will never be allies. When you have a long-term common enemy, China, there will be strong incentives for both to work together to counter this threat. Having a common enemy doesn't mean that you become friends automatically, but the more time the two countries spend working together, the greater the chance that these two countries develop closer ties in other areas. I am not saying it is a certainty, but the probability is high that you will see these two countries becoming stronger partners in the coming decades.
Some facts about India
1. Lost to everyone
2. Conquered by everyone
3. begs everyone
@@JonySmith-bb4gx Then how come India is still 85% Hindu while no European country follows its real religion - all got r*ped by middle eastern christianity.
@@JonySmith-bb4gxwe don't beg, we ask the price, and don't side with west (on russia) on your face and we don't steal like chinese, a win-win
@@pranavingale6850 yeah we saw how great u are in Australia balesh dhankar
In USA as Nikhil Gupta
In Canada rajbir Singh
In USA again nishad Singh .
Yes u don't steal like Chinese .u steal like rndian u are . Chinese don't steal they work hard . That's why u lost to china
@@JonySmith-bb4gx That's Pakistan! It will beg it's way to glory... Lol
Peter, liked your viewpoints for most parts except one when you said relationships, especially western countries relationships are based on trust and sacrifice. Most Asian countries have exact opposite opinions about western countries, they think western countries are more transactions oriented
Your videos are always fun to watch - they're educational and fun at the same time 😊
Could you please make a video about the Baltic states and how do you see the future of this region? Greetings from Latvia 😊 🇱🇻
it is simple, i come, we marry 6 kids, baltic is saved, hurrah hurrah hurrah 🎉
Ah! I lived on Ft. Ord for three years. Being part of the Monteray, Carmel environment I was in one of the most beautiful parts of the U.S. rent free. I miss it.
lucky ba*tard(no offence), right now i live in texas 😭
India has a rich, affluent and well respected diaspora integrated all over the world, including China.
They’ll be able to lobby favourable terms with their new countries, theres no isolation like you mentioned.
India - a great democracy and stabilising influence in a crazy world.
Brainwashing never gets old..
India is no stabilizing influence, they only care about making money and looking the other way when war criminals and dictators murder their own people or invade innocent nations.
Thanks for a bit of enlightenment on India. I am really hoping we can get them more on our side,but as you say that is unlikely to happen. Ho hum. Thanks again
I think India.. will fare the best in the long term.. simply because how self sufficient it is and is becoming. I'd put my money in the Indians to keep themselves United, develop themselves & continue growing.
Pretty sure that partition (creating Pakistan) was intended to stop India from being a major Persian Influence.
Hey psst......as an indian, I can say one thing! Thank God Pakistan is a different country and not in india!
@@pranavingale6850 Had partition not happened, the ethnic, religious and cultural impacts of partition would also not have happened. Whole populations would not have fled for their lives or been killed in the process. The politics, law and general sense of nationhood would have been different, perhaps very different to what exists today, in both what is currently India and what is currently Pakistan. For example it would have made it much harder for religious nationalism to dominate either.
@@andrewwatson5324 naah dude! You think your abrahamic cousins would have been happy to be under the pagan rule?
I mean we have around 200 million Muslims, and they already create so many problems, add another 220 mil of pak and 150 mil of Bangladesh!
You know what I stand correct! One indian subcontinent......uh .....no thank you
France and India seem to be a tad closer than implied via arms deals and coops.
And Israel and Uae
Take that with a grain of salt: India's military procurement practices have always been a clown show. To be fair, France's military export practices have always been a clown show. So the two of 'em are basically made for each other, but only so long as you're uninterested in anything actually resulting from it.
India works with Russia, France, Iran, Israel, Japan, South Korea, Germany, Saudi Arabia, UAE etc on many military and economic projects but most westerners assume we don't have any friends....sure we are not military allies with any one but that makes it easier to do business with those who wouldn't if they felt India was on the other team.
France and India are actually minor trade partners. India buys a few weapons from France (and from many other countries) and thats it. Check "list of largest trading partners of India" on wiki, France isnt even on the list.
@@jaydath8181 Business partners doesn't mean friends.
I would argue that Indian industry can produce high quality products. The phrase you are looking for is "less sophisticated" not "low quality".
well, the thing about India being boxxed in between hostile neighbours preventing it from expanding their influence through maritime means only applies as long as it is boxxed in by hostile neighbours. Should the organizations for south asian cooperation come to fruition this would greatly enhance indias capability to focus its resources elsewhere.
I don't see where he was saying that India is confined by hostile neighbors. He was making a point about geography - that India is insular because mountains, deserts and jungles keep them in and their enemies out. The rest is ocean.
Pakistan is Muslim thus they will never be loving friends.
Pakistan is hostile--dont forget it is Muslim@@douglassun8456
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@@douglassun8456 There was a point where he said that India would have problems becoming a major naval power when surrounded by land borders with hostile powers. Which, between Pakistan to the west and China to the north, it is (and probably glad that the Himalayas form a significant boundary with the latter), especially since a lot of the other countries around India have significant Chinese influence.
I am very excited about a rising India! I would 1000x prefer a Superpower India over a Superpower China. :)
(Or are we supposed to call it Bharat?)
The Indian Constitution states: "India that is Bharat". Bharat is the older name but both work fine.
Please do call it _Bharat._
@thepoet82
I don't mind as long as you don't call it "Hindustan", connoting that it is the land of "Hindus". It caused immense damage & ruined her case on Kashmir. Hindustan is a historic "Persianism" for this country. And denizens of Hindustan were called "Hindus" by implication. The local religious group didn't give that name to themselves, but had to accept what others called it.
On partition: Concurrent with independence, the country was split in two - one for the Muslim majority (kind of a homeland for "Indian" Muslims),while the other shouldn't be for Hindus alone, but for all non-Muslims (of course it is a fact that Hindus are in majority). The Western version (of some) that "Pakistan is for Muslims & Hindustan for Hindus" caused immense damage to the image of India.
Historically countries have tried to conquer the globe, had brief success and then gone in to oblivion. Largely Indian history does not demonstrate a tendency to go after territorial gains just for the heck of it to show that they are a global power. In modern times, it has a young workforce that is educated and capable of running big corporations and so can expand their softpower and ensure there is more co-operation and collaboration between countries for the common good of humanity. They understand wars in general are too expensive and capable of destructing the economies of those who engage in it. Today the US is a shadow of its mighty power much of it expended through unnecessary wars that could have been avoided. Lastly, technology is changing so rapidly that producers want to monetize it quickly to cash on the opportunity and so are available to many countries. This has increased the fire power of even smaller nations and so has made it dufficult to turn war into a winning strategy for anyone. Russia-Ukraine is a typical example.
India will never want to conquer neighbouring countries but will use its full force when provoked or when its security is threatened.
We should keep the love in our own hemisphere!
Mr Zeihan,
Your Bang on target 🎯 Keep up the good work.
What are you telling? Everything he said here is inaccurate
Your analysis is very impartial, providing a neutral and unbiased perspective. Subscribed.
Happy New Year Peter. Hope they offered you lunch over at the Officer's Mess afterwards. The Indians will do alright. Looking forward to a really exciting 2024 🎉🎈🇦🇺
Fantastic talk. The art of saying things that sound articulate and expert level but are not. Please watch his show with Joe on Russia Ukraine conflict to understand the depth of his analysis.
Pretty accurate analysis of Indian geo-politics.
Happy New Year Peter! Glad I found your channel! Sharing it with many who need some.. Education? on how the world really ticks..
You'll be parroting a lot of US intelligence narratives as you Educate? people. Enjoy.
My experience with India and Indians over last 30 years is that Indians are very transactional in their business/personal and strategic approach. Indians will never be allies to anyone - strangely even among themselves. States within India often have hostile relations with each other. It will be an interesting 22nd century.
I mean, before the British Empire colonised the Indian subcontinent, there was no "India".
there were many different small Indian states that had a love/hate relationship with eachother.
@@LevisH21the mauryan empire unified the subcontinent far before Britain, India is a name that is derived from Indus which is what the Greeks used when talking about India
@@KaranPatel-gj3izThe Mauryan Empire did not last and the Indian subcontinent again fell apart. Same with the Guptas, Delhi Sultanate are Mughal Empire. The Maratha Empire collapsed into a Confideracy.
@@mudra5114 Every empire fell apart everywhere on earth. It is natural
India remain united under moryan , gupta . delhi sultnate , mughal , maratha , british india and today india .
And india is not nation state but civilizational state and its culture make it united
the rise and fall of all of those empires are still a part of Indian/Dharmic Civilization.... just like the fallen British Empire is still a part of British history and civilizational identity. The Westphalian concept of a nation state is different from the Indian/Dharmic Concept of a civilizational identity and history.@@mudra5114
" India is non-West, not anti-West. "
---- S. Jaishankar, Indian Foreign Minister.
Do Southeast Asia in a post American world, please.
...and include the Philippines this time...
@@MoralHazard-g1e Philippines is so West dependent, from its culture to economics, I doubt they world survive the post-American series.
I think with all the extra free time the US will be pivoting to Asia due to the taiwan situation
Happy new year fellas !
Well I don't agree that india can't be close to the west. India & russia are close because of the trust and decade long history of support when the rest of the world decided to choose a military dictatorship. It's evident that morality has no place in geopolitics hence we learned a valuable lesson, India needs to worry about Indians first. If some energy is left, then we can focus outward.
@djsngolossy6237 indeed , but india prefers russia over USA because of the decades long continuous support. This doesn't mean we will rally behind russia to the battlefield, we will not. We just prefer reliability and if the west is really serious about India then they will have to earn our trust. That's how strong friendships and partnerships are built.
Indian people are really intelligent. India is growing fast and it is searching a respectable place that it deserves in the world. India is neither friend nor foe of the west. India is a peace loving country. In times of emergency, India even helps her enemies. It is the Hindu culture that drives India in the path of righteousness.
The greatest show on earth.
We've learned "trust and sacrifice " are fancy words with no values from the history .
Looking at Ukraine , As a indian , modi's decision to keep distance from US was right
This is where I complain about Zeihan's views without addressing anything he has said here or in his books! Take that Peter! 😆
Hey Peter, As an Indian I was pleased to hear your opinion on the future of India. As an engineering student in Germany I would like to know your opinion on the future of the European Union as a whole. More specifically do you think that the EU is more likely to fall apart in the future?
Lol😂
@@bv6168no need to be a dick mate he was asking an honest question which has a real possibility of happening if the eu doesn’t reform itself
Peter has a previous video on this. Long story short he's not positive on EU and not positive on Germany.
@@user-nu9zv9bq3n True. He was positive on France, optimistic on the U.K. and Spain (?) although both have some issues to address, and quite negative on Germany. The rest of Europe was nothing spectacular besides the E.U. as a whole is at a crossroads.
@@user-nu9zv9bq3n maybe but the eu isn’t just Germany is it it includes 27 countries such as France Italy and Spain which are major regional powers in Europe
It would be interesting to hear what Peter has to say about the effects of climate change in the Indian subcontinent & its possible consequences
India is an interesting nut to crack and it would seem a bit of a balancing factor in that part of the world. Thanks for the insight
Great point about India and the Persian Gulf. If the U.S. leaves, the world has another oil crisis, and the U.S can finally decide to be petroleum independent, who will fill the power vacuum? It would be whoever can get there firstest with the mostest - India.
India already has a good relationship with most of the Arab world (even Iran). Only Turkey, Pakistan, Azerbaijan and Qatar are hostile but they are hostile to everyone so no surprise there.
@@tony16991 turkey has to cross three seas to get there. And that is if at all egypt allows them to use suez. Else they have to cross 2 oceans to get there.
Iran is a good shout but its one of the belligerents.
@@kth6736Iran is far less competent militarily than India. This is because their military is really just a domestic police force now that Iraq is destroyed. Iran is constrained by their geography, so will never be able to have a navy of any size (which is why they are betting on missiles and drones). Also Theocracies tend to be bad at everything IMHO.
All the best.
@@ivancho5854 Iran has a decently educated society and good relations with Russia and China. They can build any number of ships they want. I wouldn't take them lightly.
They are a top tier power.
@@kth6736 Yea, right - then you woke up. They aren't going to build a decent navy because they lack the heavy industry, technology, experience and most importantly their coastline has virtually no infrastructure. Isn't Iran the only country in the world without a navigable river? And you think that they can have a navy! Iran showed that during the Iran-Iraq war that they were worse than Russia at employing meat wave attacks. Incompetent doesn't come near to describing how bad they are at anything except beating to death unarmed women on the streets by gangs of decency police! Iran is a JOKE. GET IT?
1:02 India was neutral. But American forced India by arming Pakistan and refusing to sell weapons to India.
If u really want to understand geopolitics of INDIA,,,you should point out who is behind Pakistan with money and support to harm INDIA.
Now you got the answer,how can u expect INDIA will be like friends with such country who is infact against INDIA.
I think even centuries ahead, maybe once deglobalisation has taken full steam and maybe, who knows, we wouldnt know much about the other side of the world, India will always have a very special place in the hearts of Anglo peoples, especially those of UK, Australia, etc. Because of the shared history once upon a time. I think historians will look back at cities like Bombay, Madras and Calcutta (today Mumbai, Chennai and Kolkata) and even read about them through rose tinted glasses.
Ey....ey...what you gotta wheel for car?
I mean, I love the UK as an Indian, I just wish they taught their actual colonial history in the schools.
@@Xinnie_The_Flu nope i don't. Why do u?
Such an intelligent audience and excellent comments
I'm confused. How does having no advantage to expanding on land imply that India can't become a naval power? At this time, I can see that challenges with Pakistan and China make the Indian Navy the third child in the military. But in the long term there is nothing that India can due with its Army. So, both for its own security and its influence in the Indian Ocean, it seems like over time India will expand its Navy and the aviation resources associated with it.
It means that the majority of India's limited defense budget will go towards protecting their land borders.
Britain and America could become Naval powers cuz Britain is basically an island while USA land borders are secured so they could go navy all in while India having an issue with its land border from China and Pakistan will never be able to go navy all in and hence wud never become a naval super power.
What i think regarding the future of India is not mentioned enough, is climate change. Their deaths due to climate getting rougher are already in the thousands and it is growing exponentially.
India is not small country like Pakistan
India will affect by climate change but not to a extent that it will become major issue like non other.
India is for Indians.. we don't hurt others we don't let others hurt us.. current government is doing this exactly
From what I have seen so far, societies that give up having kids end up having high economic growth due to leaser and luxuries just to find themselves dying of when they end up with none to inherit economic growth.