Exactly, they really were super good live, especially Johnny cause he knew how to do his parts so good, but now since Archie is the only one left of the original line up..They really aren't that great without the old bandmates
Shane I used to be a HUGE fan of these guys. This isn't the original band. The original band broke up back in 2018. The drummer: Taz, Bassist: Middy, and guitarist: Johnny all left. Archie the singer is the only one left and he's had a reputation of being a bad person to work with. The original band was SO talented. I saw them in 2017 and everything was live and were awesome. This new band that you are seeing here is GARBAGE. Santa Cruz died in 2018 when the other members left.
Good comment! It's sad that Archie owns the name. Santa Cruz with Taz, Middy and Johnny would have been awesome with a new singer. Johnny is damn gifted in writing and composing and Taz and Middy are just a force at keeping things tight. It's a damn shame what the band has come with these hired guns...
The music is terrible regardless of lip syncing. It sounds like something you'd hear playing in the background inside a Hot Topic store at the mall...talentless muzak
I have been a fan of Santa Cruz since 2015, seen them live in 2016 (amazing) and was very sad when the original band broke up in 2018. I had hope with the next lineup but Archie went really downhill (addiction problems I believe) and rumors say he’s a complicated person to work with. This new lineup and this show was a bad idea. They clearly didn’t have enough time to rehearse, they don’t even look like a band, just four guys on stage next to each other. There’s no alchemy here too… And the lip sync, the out of sync instruments… this is so embarrassing, probably the worst thing that could happen to a band. I’ve been very supportive for a long time but now I think I’m done with supporting Santa Cruz :(
New in here, but I instantly subbed after seeing this. You might want to react to their interview before this gig and a song called untouched from this gig. They had the whole song played as a playback and it's just horrible. That song is also part of Alexi Laiho's legacy and the way they just butcher the whole thing makes me (and many other COB/ Laiho fans) mad. Thanks for the vid 👍 Edit: Like few other have said here, the original lineup was fire, but the band imploded during their US tour where the guys (Middy, Taz and Johnny) kicked Archie out from their tourbus and went home... After that it's been downhill for SC.
@@markusaurelius777 D'oh. That's exactly the point. They do not have a unique appearance because their appearance is totally derivative of bands like Motley Crue and Poison.
It's amazing how he's using the playback mainly for the lead vocals, not the low harmonies. I can understand bands using backing tracks, even with vocals, but the lead vocals this loud? Why?!?! It didn't add anything special to the show and puts them through this risk
Yeah, i was in reckless love gig yesterday and they had own dj who played backing vocals and synthesizer. Santa cruz only have backing harmonize vocals. So this is so stupid to blame their for it, when every rock band is using these. So GFYSLF.
I deal with a drummer in a band in Hollywood, we often play the Whisky. For some reason drummers are hooked on trying to perform with excessive backing tracks. It makes me sad cause I have never done this and it seems so not rock n roll. I know I'm not the only real deal musician and frontman with these issues.
Was the drummer hearing something different in his in-ear monitors than what was going out live? He looks like he’s playing a different song at a different tempo.
Archie can play and sing live he was using a backing track! Archie's playing speaks for itself he learned a lot from Alexi Laiho and Alexi never lip synced any song.
It's amazing how he's using the playback mainly for the lead vocals, not the low harmonies. I can understand bands using backing tracks, even with vocals, but the lead vocals this loud? Why?!?! It didn't add anything special to the show and puts them through this risk
Like Eddie Trunk has room to talk. Eddie lip syncs too....when he's on the toilet, he has to sit down to pee. And when queefs come out of his butt....those are pre-recorded
Hey Shane, found you again!!! I loved these guys. Hell still love ghe music. But thdy been split a while now. Charlie Cruz played with Alexi Laiho, till Alexi passed away.
But we could literally notice the background tracks for both the drums and the lead vocal part. So sick of people defending this stuff. Stop doing it even with background tracks. Just sing the freaking song.
@@edward7434 he wasn’t lip syncing! he was harmonizing with a backing track and the timing got lost on the drummer so he had to turn to the drummer to bring back the timing. unfortunately the track kept playing. Big deal already…Seems like people are out to humiliate the guy.
Every song from the concert is on youtube on the same channel, and there are trainwrecks on many of the other songs. They used to be a great band, tho. All the sidemen are brand new, and clearly ruining it.
What's sad about this is that band with the original line up were absolutely excellent live
Exactly, they really were super good live, especially Johnny cause he knew how to do his parts so good, but now since Archie is the only one left of the original line up..They really aren't that great without the old bandmates
And then Archie killed everything and they threw them off the bus… literally
Shane I used to be a HUGE fan of these guys. This isn't the original band. The original band broke up back in 2018. The drummer: Taz, Bassist: Middy, and guitarist: Johnny all left. Archie the singer is the only one left and he's had a reputation of being a bad person to work with. The original band was SO talented. I saw them in 2017 and everything was live and were awesome. This new band that you are seeing here is GARBAGE. Santa Cruz died in 2018 when the other members left.
Good comment! It's sad that Archie owns the name. Santa Cruz with Taz, Middy and Johnny would have been awesome with a new singer. Johnny is damn gifted in writing and composing and Taz and Middy are just a force at keeping things tight. It's a damn shame what the band has come with these hired guns...
@@kaikutv5860 Wish Johnny, Taz, and Middy would form their own band together with a new singer. Would be AMAZING!
@@casonpunk96 Exactly 🤘😎👍
The music is terrible regardless of lip syncing. It sounds like something you'd hear playing in the background inside a Hot Topic store at the mall...talentless muzak
Archie Cruz needs to go on tour with Milli Vanilli and Ashly Simpson. The "Lip Sync of Disaster" tour.
How embarrassing to pull that kind of shit at the legendary Whiskey A GoGo
I have been a fan of Santa Cruz since 2015, seen them live in 2016 (amazing) and was very sad when the original band broke up in 2018. I had hope with the next lineup but Archie went really downhill (addiction problems I believe) and rumors say he’s a complicated person to work with. This new lineup and this show was a bad idea. They clearly didn’t have enough time to rehearse, they don’t even look like a band, just four guys on stage next to each other. There’s no alchemy here too…
And the lip sync, the out of sync instruments… this is so embarrassing, probably the worst thing that could happen to a band. I’ve been very supportive for a long time but now I think I’m done with supporting Santa Cruz :(
Update for you: The bassist and guitarist are not in the band anymore! Drummer is stilll in the band, at least for now.
New in here, but I instantly subbed after seeing this. You might want to react to their interview before this gig and a song called untouched from this gig. They had the whole song played as a playback and it's just horrible. That song is also part of Alexi Laiho's legacy and the way they just butcher the whole thing makes me (and many other COB/ Laiho fans) mad. Thanks for the vid 👍
Edit: Like few other have said here, the original lineup was fire, but the band imploded during their US tour where the guys (Middy, Taz and Johnny) kicked Archie out from their tourbus and went home... After that it's been downhill for SC.
This band's appearance looks completely dated too. They look like they decided to cosplay as "generic 80s rockers."
@@markusaurelius777 D'oh. That's exactly the point. They do not have a unique appearance because their appearance is totally derivative of bands like Motley Crue and Poison.
It's amazing how he's using the playback mainly for the lead vocals, not the low harmonies. I can understand bands using backing tracks, even with vocals, but the lead vocals this loud? Why?!?! It didn't add anything special to the show and puts them through this risk
Sons of bitches…Robert should have been in charge of logistics.
I'm kinda curious what the soundman was plugging in....it was totally too late to salvage anything after this serious clam.
Probably just trying to look busy.
He has stated in a forum post that the kick drum trigger got fucked after the cymbal stand fell on it and was trying to fix the issue
Yeah, i was in reckless love gig yesterday and they had own dj who played backing vocals and synthesizer. Santa cruz only have backing harmonize vocals. So this is so stupid to blame their for it, when every rock band is using these. So GFYSLF.
I deal with a drummer in a band in Hollywood, we often play the Whisky. For some reason drummers are hooked on trying to perform with excessive backing tracks. It makes me sad cause I have never done this and it seems so not rock n roll. I know I'm not the only real deal musician and frontman with these issues.
Drummer didn’t sync to
The click track and glad this was uncovered.. wow sad man .. Eddie Trunk gets it
Aww man, if only the old line up was playing, they would've done everything right
Holy shit!!! I just noticed that the drummer was also using a track!!!! Sme days ago i thought it was only the singer who was lip-synching!!!
really!!? I gotta go re-investigate that thanks for the heads up!
From Saviors of Rock n roll to fake band. Hope things will get right again.
Was the drummer hearing something different in his in-ear monitors than what was going out live? He looks like he’s playing a different song at a different tempo.
They don't even look like they want to be there...
I agree!
Too bad, they’re probably no longer considered “good friends” with Eddie Trunk after this
Maybe they are filming a video, but why was that singer distracted by the drummer then?
Archie can play and sing live he was using a backing track! Archie's playing speaks for itself he learned a lot from Alexi Laiho and Alexi never lip synced any song.
It's amazing how he's using the playback mainly for the lead vocals, not the low harmonies. I can understand bands using backing tracks, even with vocals, but the lead vocals this loud? Why?!?! It didn't add anything special to the show and puts them through this risk
Like Eddie Trunk has room to talk. Eddie lip syncs too....when he's on the toilet, he has to sit down to pee. And when queefs come out of his butt....those are pre-recorded
Nothing wrong with hair metal but the fact that it was fake is messed up
Hey Shane, found you again!!! I loved these guys. Hell still love ghe music. But thdy been split a while now. Charlie Cruz played with
Alexi Laiho, till Alexi passed away.
The drums look off to me or maybe video is lagging??
Wtf? That's really bad 😠
if you cant sing live , give it up.!!!!
The audience memeber with the backwards cap seems to not be aware of the performance being fake. 😂
Doesn't matter. - Stop being so judgemental!
At the Whiskey? Holy crap. Just, wow
Espelliamos!!!!
Espelliamos!!!!
Haha....
Welcome back my friend. Welcome back
Miss the band. I remember Archie and Johnny. But Archie blew it
I hadn’t seen the video yet… oh my god this is horrifying…
This is basically Guitar Hero
100%
"Chippy McGoGo!" Hahaha
only excuse i could possibly think of would be if they were filming a video at the time. Other than that this is horrible.
That is a very good point Bill.
I feel like if that was the excuse we wouldn't know about it since this became a sort of a semi-viral moment
Love Eddie Trunk!!! A true lover of rock/metal
Done
this is backing track only for band sing along phrases, that's normal practice, all the show was live..btw new Cruz sucks
But we could literally notice the background tracks for both the drums and the lead vocal part. So sick of people defending this stuff. Stop doing it even with background tracks. Just sing the freaking song.
Many bands do this. Mistake happened. Don’t try to hurt this young talented band with negativity.
@@edward7434 he wasn’t lip syncing! he was harmonizing with a backing track and the timing got lost on the drummer so he had to turn to the drummer to bring back the timing. unfortunately the track kept playing. Big deal already…Seems like people are out to humiliate the guy.
Horrible commentary bro. We get what Eddie was saying
Can’t you just let it play and cutnsomeofnthe comments?
Every song from the concert is on youtube on the same channel, and there are trainwrecks on many of the other songs. They used to be a great band, tho. All the sidemen are brand new, and clearly ruining it.