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Do we still argue about the STRAIGHT runup?
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2023
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My latest video on the runup is my most hated one. In the comments, I'm accused of ruining people's health and form and teaching a technique NOBODY uses, especially none of the pros. I have no clue why people insist on throwing around your body.
In this video, I'm showing the form of some of the pros who are taking a straight or almost straight runup.
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These are the clips I used to make this video.
BARELA: • Playing Disc Golf in S...
WIGGINS: • David Wiggins Jr - Slo...
PAJU: • Seppo Paju Vlog: Hitti...
TAMM: • Albert Tamm - Backhand...
GEISINGER: • Alex Geisinger D1 Smash
EAGLE: • Eagle McMahon - Backha...
ELLIS: • Corey Ellis Smashing a...
EZRA: • Ezra Aderhold - Backha...
RICKY: • Ricky Wysocki - Finall...
As a 'recovering lawnmower puller'... I can say (for me) the diagonal runup was the cheap-and-easy way to compensate for my pulling/rounding form and to calibrate the late release angle to some degree, without actually addressing the source of the problem (i.e. without putting in the work to really learn pro technique). Studying, analyzing, and practicing good form to break those bad habits and muscle memory (with much help from DG Spin Doctor's clear concise content and awesome teaching style!) has very literally been a game changer.
The straight runup requires the basics of good form to release straight (not pulling, loose arm, shoulder out, elbow driving forward, etc.) - if you're not creating the whip properly and are strong-arming it, the straight runup might cause you to release at 3 o'clock! It's actually a good form test for pulling, rounding and late release issues.
If, like me, you're stuck at about a 350' max with lack of control and a diagonal runup, you might also be a compensating puller. It could take a few months working in the field and not playing on the courses to break that muscle memory, but it's definitely worth it if improvement is your goal. This is one of the best (and my favorite) channels to help start the journey to recovery. 😉 Thank you so much for the lessons, ideas, and drills! 👍
Wow. This is so well said and accurate, I could never have said it better myself.
Thank you, and thank you so much for your all your work! It's been incredibly helpful to have your distilled explanations distinguish the things to focus on from the things the body will do naturally when set up correctly. It eliminates so much noise, and is really helping me glue things together after deconstructing all the micro movements. (Still a work in progress.) Cheers! @@dgspindoctor
As the saying goes “facts don’t care about your feelings “. Your advice is sound and accurate. Keep up the great content. It continues to be extremely valuable to me and many others. Thank you.
Yess this. Spin Doctor for the Win!!!!
I think a lot of people take an exaggerated diagonal run-up because it does two things for them:
- it helps keep their hips closed because they're most likely backpedaling, and a straighter plant would open their hips up early.
- they over-rotate/pull too early with their upper body, and a straight run-up would make their disc fly far off to the right (wtf richard!), so the diagonal run-up compensates for a timing/accuracy issue.
In other words the diagonal run-up is a less than optimal fix for larger underlying issues in the form.
Exactly my issue.
Is there anything bad on backpedaling? Except extra rotation and reachback can easily cause rounding?
defenitely had this problem when i started chaging to a more straight run up
@@lfe4514 if youre backpedaling, youre not getting any power from your legs
@@MrKevlarkent talking of a way like calvin does ,not quite sure if thats backpedalling but.... eitherway was thinking , because i have multiple friends sort of backpedalling , was thinking if thats Natural movement for many people or is it just some old way to do it :D
I have used your advise for grip and general bachand form and can honestly say that i can throw longer, more relaxed and with less pain from my hip, back and elbow. Please continue what you are doing and if you find the time i would love to see some basic forhand content.
Thanks! I consider almost every video I make very basic, but I will try to make more about the sidearm, too.
This is such a great video. What you are saying is so spot on. The more I get to know you the more I appreciate what you do and say. Thanks bro!
When I saw a video in 2018 about a walk up in-line with my target I began to throw super accurate for once. You are right sir. Don’t listen to the haters
Your videos have helped me so much. I have been playing for 15 years and have a lot of bad habits. I have been able to clean up my form so much thanks to your uploads! Cleaning up my form not only has been helping my game, but I have been feeling better now that I'm starting to not have to force things. Thanks dood.
I love it!!! "You have to have an educated decision, you are not going to just do stuff and then wonder why it sucks" I'm going to use that a lot!!!!!! Great video, doing the straight run up helped my when I played over the weekend
You make the best instructional content for disc golfers. Hands down!Thank you so much 🙏 🙌
Thank you soo much for being transparent and letting people know that if you are encumbered by past "bad choices" for your body, there's a price to pay. And LOVE how you are making sure through your teaching that people, especially newer players don't hurt themselves and can continue to HAVE FUN playing disc golf! KEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING DOCTOR!
You're the man. I really appreciate your perspective on form. I'm 39 and just started playing last summer and I really really appreciate all your takes on how not to injure yourself and just how you generally explain all the aspects of backhand form. Thank you! It's some of the most helpful content out there for me. Keep it up.
You are an awesome coach! Let the haters hate and keep doing what you are doing.
Thanks! Trying my best while trying not to be mean or hate. For some it seems an impossible task.
Yup! Your advice is solid bro. Keep up the great work.
I've been playing for one month. I've seen so, so many videos. I got confused and tried to change too many things at first. When I discovered your videos, a lot of things clicked into place. I am only watching you from now on.
Watching your videos and following your advice has improved my score by almost 20 points. Thank you!!!
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there are disc golf coaches on the internet that advocate for the diagonal run up and are seen throwing very far with the technique.
I go back right to front left like Eagle, however my flight path is down the middle, so a terrible outcome for me.
This teaching is so good. I'm looking forward to less back pain and more confidence with this style.
Sooooo good!
thanks a ton.
I instantly PR'ed at my local course after seeing your video and starting to run straight up to the target.
Nothing to argue about here. If you don't believe this, then don't. Figured out this about 5 months ago from another video and it has drastically changed my game; I throw about 15% farther and hit lines now way more often than misfires. Cheers!
I think your advice is pretty spot on.
Thx! Your wisdoms has taken the pain out of my game for atleast 1,5y atm.
love your content, it's of great value to me and I do appreciate you taking the time to explain it ... over and over. Thanks my friend
Another great video Jaani. Screw all the haters and their weak ass comments.
Straightforward attitude here 🎉 much better very refreshing and the video examples helped reinforce the main point. Well done
Diagonally sets up for the long drift, maybe s-line, curve. They are aiming left but may end up right or straight depending on the disc / angle.
Examples, facts, proof. Straight run up to shoot straight. Yes! I also agree with reality.
Nice shirt. Also nice vid and thanks for the insightful thoughts!!
Some things to consider:
1) Maybe some people are confused about the two feet being on different rails, and they might look like the walk up is diagonally forward, for a straight throw. In some cases there is a diagonal movement, as both feet are moving diagonally forward, but not as sharp an angle is one might think.
2) Scott Stokely advocates moving the plant foot to the side, as needed, to help correct the throw, as well as address mobility issues. More the former than the latter, explicitly, but the latter is implied.
3) Some pros have controlled griplock where they deliberately over-rotate because it gives them more power. They might run up diagonally on purpose to elicit this effect. Logan Harpool has a video where he explicitly states he is attempting to have that effect on his max distance throws. That said, he removed all the videos on his channel, but I recall one where he stated that. You can see a number of pros do that last weekend in the Portland Open, where they walk up in the direction of the basket, then late release for more distance, and to take an outside route.
As always, I love your videos. Keep up the great work!
I liked the last video you posted. It got me thinking about not thinking about my foot work.
Not thinking is the best feeling!
Always something interesting to show us.
In this video, Will Schusterick talks about his angled run up:
straight: throw straight
right to left: throw anhyzer
left to right: throw hyzer
ua-cam.com/video/0Vrqk5dUgU8/v-deo.html
8:15
But I think the point is that his body is still in alignment with itself like you’re describing. Maybe that’s where the confusion is. I’m a beginner so I can’t speak from experience
Yes, we talk about the line of release.
i think the issue is, people think the teepad is a perfectly straight line to the basket, (not the target those are 2 different things, if you throw a hyzer your target is right of the basket). so in your example alex does go diagonally arcoss the teepad but in a straight line towards his target..
Yes people dont think of that. They just see the teepad and think angle.
But there is a method of teaching still out there talking to do this angled deal.
And its not 100% wrong. But its not taught properly.
Possibly the best tip is to imagine two lines. Two parallel lines, one for the body and one for the disc. And this is when we are throwing straight shot. :D
The parallel line thinking improved my straight shots tremendously.
@@Jaazens It is actually something that helped me with power pocket.
Also third line on ground and your right foot remain left side of that line and left foot right side.
@@mr.wizeguy8995 No need for that. You allready have an line for your body to follow, the same line helps you mentally with feet placement and for me it helps with the power pocket. I try to visualize my forearm and shoulders being square against the line and that mental image helps me with timing of acceleration.
I agree with the straight runup (well, "straight towards target", not "straight behind the nose"), but there's some merit to angling the runup slightly if you take a longer step-into-X and post-X. I have issues with being a little bit too straightbacked when I do a 5-step runup straight on, but if I take a half-step in and redirect before the x-step I feel I can hit lines a little bit better as I lean over and end up with my head over my forearm (so I can sort of aim down my elbow straight along the forearm line). It's not a curved high-jumpers runup though, but just a footwidth redirection stepping in to the X, sort of.
I experimented my way to that though, and I throw putters a bit over 300ft, so not exactly beginner level anymore. Most people should definitely start with a straight runup and only change it if they notice actual real-world improvements in aim when they do it otherwise. Changes in power don't really mean a lot until you're past the 450 mark anyway, because going from 150 to 200 on a max power throw will still be really bad form.
Good stuff. This is what my teacher (pro that bombs 600'+) tries to drill into my head. He draws a line and makes xtep behind line and plant foot in front of line. A lot of people miss-see this as diagonal but it is very straight. Like we clearly see in your video. Also he throws a lot of very overstabIe discs on flex lines and is throwing on that line, and again it is misconstrued by those that do not know what they are looking at as a diagonal run up, where it is actually a diagonal shot line in relation to the teepad.
I run up diagonally to get my plant foot in front of my pull through because I have poor technique and poor timing. I incorrectly use the diagonal run up as a bandaid for my poor form. I actually am glad I can at least recognize my poor form and not try to justify it. Step in the right direction at least!
We do see some pros doing it, but it doesn't make it right. Truth is that a lot of pros can still improve their game considerably and add considerable distance and accuracy to their game. Just my opinion and thank you for your great videos. I really appreciate your teaching style. Keep up the good work!
I think both things can be true.
In the straight run up, your last step is a bit to the left in order to create the staggered stance. My understanding of the diagonal run up is to go towards the line your feet are in the final stance and try to end up in the exact same stance, just with an actually straight run up.
I know there is the old school way of basically throwing with your back towards the fairway and that is just outdated like you said.
Some players have been doing it for years and believe they are fine even though they struggle to hit 400. No one likes to hear they are wrong in a way they thought was right.
Appreciate it Doc!
Hey, where is that hoodie from ? Looks really nice!
Thanks! It's from Otavalo market in Ecuador.
"You can't do shitty things forever. You have to pay the price"
From my treasury of timeless wisdom.
You should refer to hips for aiming, not legs. I think that is where the confusion is coming in. You can "round" regardless of run up if you 1) point your hips past 90 degrees from target, or 2) reach back behind you (with a different angle than your hips). Also, pros are more flexible up top so they can keep their hips in the proper position and still have their torso pointing more rearward.
People giving you shit for this are idiots, your videos are pure money. I have stopped follow others tutorials. Your are simple and on point. Keep it up Dr cause you have cured my form. Love from sweden ❤❤❤❤
Stopped following other tutorials 😂 oooops
People just hate it when they've been doing something wrong for a long time and someone corrects them. These are the same people who refuse to try anything but the powergrip for their shots and who don't believe you when you tell them they're throwing nose up but insist they're only throwing too high and don't have enough power.
For accuracy straight run up is important. When you run up straight, then you can follow through straight.
Back in the 90's we only threw with a diagonal run up. Take a look at all those beat up trees nearest the tee box.
I'm sorry to all those poor trees
Oh we did that also in the early 2000's.
Liked both of these videos. For some reason I have a hard time planting my front foot ahead of my back it always wants to land in a straight line, slightly open stance. I think this is why I started trying to go diagonal across the box. Going to keep trying! Your videos help.
To fix planting open, concentrate on turning your front foot a little in from parallel. Land from toe rolling to heel. It'll feel absurd at first, but it lets you really get into the brace and weight transfer
What I took from this is the Doctor is actually Seppo Paju. Take those glasses off SHOW US YOUR TRUE SELF. (Superman ref)
I wish.
The people who have a straight run up and straight line just have good timing and know their grip. I am currently learning this, If I try to put above 70% power then i start pulling/rounding my shots. and it is probably trying to get power from a different part of the body, opening my hips more, something.
Same thing with my putt, i was bringing power to my putt that was not on the line and was shifting my wieght or stance and was making it. Now i am trying to train the movement to be inline with my putt.
Dope sweater!!!
I dont understand the hate, unless we're talking about people getting pissy that a pro runs up the tee pad from one corner to another part of the tee pad for "max distance". In all the pro run ups except for the David Wiggins clip the pros threw the disc on the line of the direction they were walking up to. And Wiggins was lining up to the left to use the whole fairway throwing a flippy disc
great job!
I almost commented on the other video like 5 hours ago, going against the haters in your comments… But then I realized, they probably suck at disc golf.🤣
This is fascinating, b/c everyone "knows" that pros walk up at an angle tracking left of their aiming point, but then when you actually listen to what most pros teach as basic technique, they teach having your body's momentum go directly *at* your aiming point (which is of course not the point where the disc is intended to land, and may be nowhere near it). For instance, in demonstrating basic form, Wysocki projects onscreen a giant blue arrow at his aiming point, and then proceeds to walk (laterally) directly up that arrow into the hit. ua-cam.com/video/N00BfNwc7ng/v-deo.html
At the same time, Tristan Tanner explicitly demonstrates that his backhand walkup tracks left of his aiming point on power shots (not to a huge degree, but it is clear); this is then hugely exaggerated by the giant left step he takes onto his plant foot (which he then says "I do not recommend.") ua-cam.com/video/uKKdSFxLRkM/v-deo.html.
Tanner also has a really slow walkup.
My tentative guess is that getting significant momentum directly at the aiming point is optimal and healthiest for the back, but one way to make up for a lack of momentum going into the plant is to leverage a 'griplock'-like effect of pulling to the right, necessitating a leftward tilt to the walkup.
It's notable that Paju (cited in DGSD's video above) is one of the pros who talks most explicitly about setting and walking up right on the line. He has a smooth and powerful run-up with a crow hop that makes great use of gravitational action, so may not need any left tilt or yanking action to get the tremendous power he shows on his drives.
DG Spin Doctor, I really appreciate your work here. I have been confused as to one can have this massive left-tilt to the runup and yet not be rounding. The answer appears to be: you can't. I am not working to undo the 'correction' I built into my form that has me needlessly tracking left.
We need a drill/video on how not to stand up last millisecond during hyzer throw!!
Dude, that’s a really cool hoodie!
Drone filming over thrower and then we can see how they line up and where disc is going then case is closed.
I think there's a slight optical issue here. To those who are arguing with you they think the pros are doing a diagonal run up because of how their feet are staggered, and also that the camera is set up in such a way to accentuate the appearance of the stagger. Also it is worth noting that it does seem that in fact there is a slight diagonal movement on many throws but whether that is intended or optimal or not I have no idea!
Simon Lizotte and Väinö Mäkelä take a bit more diagonal runups and they throw quite far. James Conrad takes a straight runup but pulls the disc behind his body and does a bit of a roundup with the disc. Kevin Jones on the other hand puts the disc further outside his body than most. All players are a bit different. But the straight runup described in this video is by far the most common. Note though that the last step is a bit diagonal to the right for most players even though they do a straight runup.
Exactly, always adjust to your liking. I would still suggest keeping momentum on the line between your feet.
Simon never should have made that video.
The actual line is a dead straight line but when you account for the slight stagger you try to create between front foot and rear foot things get muddled a bit. This is another nomenclature issue, people are basically arguing about what words mean it’s stupid.
But Simon's reachback is WAY out. You can see it in the thumbnail of the video he made with Casey White comparing their form.
@@dgspindoctorhe just made a specific video where he essentially told people they needed to “step out diagonally” on the last step. I think it confused a lot of people.
cool, ty for talking about this stuff. Whats helped me the most so far, is the elbow out baseball bat thing you've been developing. How you get thier it don't matter lol Although finding the most consistent way would be nice. But heck between all the diffrent shots to throw, disc with diffrent flight characteristics. It's a crazy sport... Big fan of Corey Ellis...
Corey is one of my favs too!
You can see the wear mark in tee pad when you showed Eagle
Totally with you! I see some of the covid players who are very skilled coming up and yet they run diagonally on the tee box for every shot type. I've always heard to run up straight and towards the line you're throwing.
I mentioned it in his last video.
I looked at throwing form videos this winter and 9-10 said to run up diagonal.
I belive Paul Mcbeth made a video a year ago that mentioned that he went from corner to corner on the teepad.
Paul can do what ever he wants, because he is the greatest. Us mere mortals, we have to start from the basics and then learn. I'm pretty sure Paul didn't start out by being the greatest with a unique form. Even he started from the scratch and developed from there.
Thank you Sir!! Biomechanics
but now im confused, yes straight fro straight got it, but dont we say to open up your hips, and also put that right foot a littler further away to open up?
Bro eagle is clearly running from the back right of the tee pad, as is Alex. Joel freeman has a whole video on how he runs from the back right.
You are absolutely right. Teepad though has nothing to do with the straight run up. Remove the teepad and it's a straight run up to the direction of the release line, exactly as I said.
You cannot aim straight and run up left. You run up left if you aim left of the tee pad. I don’t understand the fuzz. Throwing straight from the tee pad when running up left would just be stupid….
I don't think you're wrong, but I think the point is more clearly illustrated by telling people not to put their body in between their reach back their aim point.
I like this. Too many people are making disc golf tutorials. People watch videos of people who you have never even seen play disc golf. I only listen to people I have seen with my own eyes know what they are talking about. Everyone wants to pretend they are on the pro tour. Or that they could compete with pro levels guys just cause they have thrown a few birds.
I like this guy. His info is good. I will continue to watch. But where can I actually watch him play the game?
Thanks...I guess. I don't play the game anywhere where you can watch me play anymore. I peaked about 10 years ago, then life happened and I dropped almost 100 rating points from 980. I have never recovered from that, so I decided to help others instead of focusing on my game. I think I'm better at coaching than playing and can provide to my community better doing that.
Sorry to disappoint you. There are plenty of professional players you can watch play.
@@dgspindoctor Not disappointed just curious to watch you play. So many people have vids, hard to weed through who knows what they talking about. I do not doubt your abilities and meant no harm. I enjoy your vids. Cheers from VA.
Go to my Instagram @jaanigoingplaces to see my throws.
Whoa.. too many trolls under Jaani's bridge 😄
I'm really having trouble with early release so I was thinking about to change my run up in the way that I'd be moving slightly diagonally away from target to hit my line. So for straight shot for example as a left hand player my run up would be from the right back corner of the teepad to the left front corner. What would be your thoughts on that?
I'm just thinking is that the correct way to go or am I just overcompensating something by doing that
Word!! ❤
It could be that those who are diagonally running up try to run up straight and it doesnt work because they are so used to rounding and overrotation.
Yes, it is very hard to tweak your muscle memory.
I am actually surprised how many of those clips show just a slight diagonal (back right to front left) run ups. Ricky was really the only one where you could draw a straight line from the start to finish with the flight of the disc.
I don't video myself enough. But I definitely throw straighter when I make a real effort to line and up run up dead straight. Now I wonder if I actually am running in line with the throw.
There is always the small stride off the line. As if I didn't say this the last time and this time, too. And then people donät want to hear it because ranting is fun. It is about the RELEASE line, not the flight path or the landing.
@@dgspindoctor Definitely no ranting from me. Was just a curiosity I hadn't really noticed. Appreciate the videos.
Certainly mobility like you said has to be a factor. But a lot of these guys are young kids in good shape. Makes me wonder what the "ideal" runup really is? Or does it even matter that much and like you said it's just the line of the disc.
Personally, my most accurate shots... I can draw a straight line from my feet to my plant heel to the target.
HEY! I have to remind you that im VERY WELL ABLE to just "do stuff" and then wonder why it sucks thank you very much and i reject your notion of it having to be an educated decision. G'DAY SIR.
Thanks for watching.
Ever since I saw the video on "wide rail" reaching out more 'away' from your body, to have a straighter pull, I have been doing it with good results.
Now I'm thinking if this is merely me compensating for my diagonal run up...
I will consider another look at my run up & reach back.
Do you think there's some cause for the 'wide rail' reach back still?
Wide rail is okay. It's more like a feeling of reaching wide than the actual result, I think.
Wide rail is a great way to mentally remedy rounding. Just getting the disc out from the shadow of your body is a great key to a cleaner form
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Amen
Foot fault
I also notice alot of people don't really reach back a whole lot, more of just a curl with a slight shoulder twist and still throw really far
That is also what I'm teaching. Like... I'm not digging the info out of my ass.
@@dgspindoctor right! I've watched all of your videos and the way you explain things are so easy to understand. Still working on my form, having trouble passing 300
@@Gh0stz9211record yourself. It’s 100% the best way to figure out what you are missing. Compare yourself to a pro with a similar build and try to get to the same sort of body form in time. Don’t try to be exactly like them because you are you. :)
@@novapunkx I will work on that more! Am I suppose to loosely hold my elbow or actively push out with the shoulder as mentioned in one of the videos/shorts
@@Gh0stz9211 from what I understand it’s loose as the motion from reach back to power pocket is mostly driven by the body. But I’m not much better than you at the moment so take my advice with a grain of salt. :)
As your talking about Eagle taking a straight run up, what I am watching is Eagle starting on the back right of the tee pad and finishing at the middle. Basically, the definition of a diagonal. This is by far the most confusing video on form.
So diagonal on the teepad, straight AT THE INTENDED LINE OF RELEASE. Please, watch the video and listen to it, too. The teepad is not a straight line, but just a platform where to throw from.
Näitä on tullut katsottua. Jopa vähän mittaa saanut. Tekniikkamuutoksia ja tuntunut helpommalta varsinkin avausheitot. Kroppa vaan nyt sanonut että "mikä tämä uusi homma" Kylmiltään kun alkaa talven jälkeen, niin löytyy uusia lihaksiakin. Ehkä tässä 5v päästä jo muka osaa tuon helpon näkösen heiton.
Maltilla vain!
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This is the clip I’m talking about. Simon basically says, “we both plant the same, out in front of our bodies and not in a straight line.”
The video has 448k views good luck unteaching the community something Simon disseminated personally.
To be clear I agree with you but that clip I shared is largely to blame for this debate.
They may not plant in a straight line, but there is a difference between a plant (offset stance which goes left) vs diagonal walking which is right to to left from the start.
You shouldn’t plant in a straight line. That will cause late releases. The video is saying you should be moving towards your target in your run up. Not run from the back right of the tee pad to the front left while trying to throw at something off to the right
@@martinh7798 Exactly. Your plant foot stance works you to the left. I am saying there is a difference between right to left walking and the plant. If you plant after a right to left walk you will be more left than if you walked straight.
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This topic has been covered in depth by people with merit
Like Seppo and Earhart?
@@dgspindoctor Like Joel Freeman.
Maybe the disagreement is bc you are oversimplifying this. There some minor things that i have discovered i really cant get around.
For example your front foot needs to extend towards the left edge of the tee box. This is how you create resistance to the rotational force you generate which transfers energy to the disc. Aka you wont be stable if you dont stagger your feet and this kind of looks like a "diagonal run up".
Also for those who do take a diagonal run up or who stagger aggressively the obvious solution is just to hold the disc OUT (towards left edge of tee box) as well as back on the reach back. No rounding necessary. I throw like this and i can throw fairway drivers 400 feet so tell me how this is wrong.
And finally when throwing a hyzer backhand you do absolutely have to lean out over the disc to some degree. (Unless you are geting your angles by changing grip or wrist position which is a bad practice). So somebody please explain how you are going to accomplish a hyzer w/o a diagonal step through.
Which means...you have to extend OUT as well as back, which means...diagonal step through.
AKA a diagnonal step through works, but you dont want to confuse that with a diagonal run up.
I think you are confusing a straight run up with a straight pull through. It's entirely possible to have a slightly diagonal run up and not pull around your body by simply reaching out a little further from your body towards your intended line. It's true according to all ergonomic simulations and demonstrably true in actual pro forms. You can't have it all in one form. Either you get the hip opened up and a nice shot window developed because you do a diagonal approach which gives far more power, or you take the conservative straight run up giving you the perfectly straight pull through, sacrificing large amounts of torque and power but gaining control and finesse. They are different shot types and they don't overlap. One is not better than the other, they accomplish different tasks.
Didn't I say this in the video?
I agree with you, I don't think Joel Freeman does though ;)
Don't confuse creating a gap with your last step with running up straight towards your target. You still want your lead foot to be forward of mass and your trailing foot behind center of mass. You can still do this in a 12/6 fashion on the pad. You don't want to run up that pad from a 4/10 position.
You can and will take the stride a little off of the line. The more you do, the more you have to adjust your arm and over-rotate. But you can do that, LIKE I SAY IN THE VIDEO.
Thank you so much for this. I thought my run up was wrong based on what some others have said. I have not tried to change it because I have been focused on bracing better.
I would however like to argue that it is not hate when people disagree or argue their point. 🫶
In a room with two people this would be normal. But you have a channel with great reach! Don’t forget that. Extremely few people hate you or what you are doing. ❤