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What is a Stadtholder? / Wat is een Stadhouder? (Dutch Republic - European History)
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2015
- www.tomrichey.net
This summer, I went to the Netherlands to learn some more about the Dutch Republic. Before I went there, I knew very little. I knew stadtholders were important, but I had no idea what they were or what role they played in the Dutch Republic. In this lecture, I explain what a stadtholder is and how that role evolved during the lifetime of William of Orange. I plan to post some more lectures on Dutch history soon, so stay tuned!
Deze zomer ben ik naar Nederland geweest om wat meer te leren over de Republiek der Zeven Verenigde Nederlanden. Voordat ik erheen ging, wist ik heel weinig. Ik wist dat stadhouders belangrijk waren, maar ik had geen idee wat een stadhouder was en welke rol zij gespeeld hebben in de republiek. In deze lezing leg ik uit wat een stadhouder is en hoe deze rol zich ontwikkelde tijdens het leven van Willem van Oranje. Ik ben van plan om binnenkort meer lezingen te posten over de Nederlandse geschiedenis, dus stay tuned!
As a Dutchman, I feel we should never have changed from a republic to a kingdom. The Stadhouder was a uniquely Dutch institution that worked well (by & large).
We didn't change to a kingdom of our volition. The great powers that defeated Napoleon decided in the Eight Articles of London (1814) that there should be a strong kingdom to the north of France, to keep France in check in the future.
ring in dutch is just like ring in english, no ggggghh involved, because of the 'ng' construct. Otherwise yes, you would indeed pronounce it like that. Greetings from Amsterdam, and keep up this awesome educational show!
Unless you're from the south (Brabant and Limburg).
hoezo zouden wij het dan anders uitpreken
or the south-south (Flanders)
"the right way" :D
People who wanted to use the old and dumb way of pronouncing G got their own country. We got rid of them and today we call them Belgians.
They have shitty roads.
the dog symbolizes 'trouw' or 'vertrouwen', which means loyalty and trustworthyness. (i think that is good translation). So in the case of the grave, the dog meant something more than the fact that was just 'a normal guy'. In those days, every day objects and animals where used as symbols in the art. it tells something about the person. Willem van oranje was loyal to his people.
great vid Btw :)
Thank you for sharing this! I will make sure to include this in a future lecture. I would like to do a lecture specifically on Willem van Oranje. It is such an honor that so many Nederlanders are watching this video and commenting on it. I thought this topic seemed kind of obscure and did not expect so many people to watch this lecture.
+Tom Richey Special thnx for making this there aren't many good videos about the Dutch Republic which is strange since their ideas had an big impact on history.
Also shared your video on the subreddits EU4 (Europa Universalis, historical game) and it was re-shared in the subreddit The Netherlands. Both praised your knowledge!
The EU4 thread www.reddit.com/r/eu4/comments/3mbnpy/what_is_a_stadtholder_explained/
The Netherlands thread www.reddit.com/r/thenetherlands/comments/3mcw63/what_is_a_stadtholder_wat_is_een_stadhouder_dutch/
Hope to see the Willen van Orange video soon :D
So this is where the line from Het Wilhemus, "Den vaderland vertrouwen blijf ik tot in den dood" is inspired from?
studiosnch No it just means that ill trust in my fatherland till i die its nothing symbolic its just that
The dog has a different story. The dog was willem's dog. when willem of orange died the dog kept standing guard at his bed refusing to eat or drink. The dog eventually died at willems feet. In my history lessons I know that they where buried together if I really dig in my memory. I might be in correct at some parts. Greetings from a Nederlander!
Willem van Oranje-Nassau is the father of the fatherland.We Dutch refer to our Kingdom as the fatherland unlike Russia refers to it self (motherland).
Germans do too Vaterland and french do too 'la patrie'
As much as they hate to admit it France is a Germanic country ruled first by the Franks a Germanic tribe the country is named after and later by the Norsemen (Normans). Thus Fatherland (Patri). When you travel from the Germanic countries to France you buy a ticket to Frank-rijk or reich, The Empire of the Franks.
@@robertcuminale1212 The Brits hate to admit it too.
But they too are a Germanic country,...ruled by Germans aswell.
In Denmark and my country Norway we use the term (Fedreland) in Sweden they use the term (Fosterland). Denmark and Sweden was Christianised by the German and Dutch catholics but Norway was christianised by the anglo saxons before they got Catholic so thats why in Norway we have these wood churches. In Danmark and Sweden they have one common dialect they use, in Norway its verry diverse The east-Norwegians and west norwegians speak verrry diffrent and also look diffrent, the east-norwegians are verry Blondie, tall and their mentality is like the swedes. In the south-west where am from or "Vestlandet"=westland is the historic Norwegian territory going from Christiansand all the way to the fjords in the north. In the middle we have the old capitol Trondheim and i actually understand Danes better than i understand them their dialect is its own language i think
Thanks Tom this is really enlightening and is fuelling my passion for history! Keep up the good work
"Orange" refers to a title, a piece of land somewhere in Southern France. Not to a piece of fruit, lol. Just like Nassau is a title, of a piece of land somewhere in Germany. Hence, Willem van Oranje-Nassau.
I love you so much, Tom Richey. Never change. You're the best.
this was really interesting and informative, new sub right here
Great video! Looking forward to more!
Regards from Amsterdam.
i really liked this video. thanks. history is my hobi. you are always helping me to find a topic and then rent a book from a local library to do my little research. channels like this, the grat war, its history, historia civilias, epic history... are meking my hobi much easier and helping me understand the world around me. because what is this momment? just another day in a historY!!! i really appreciate what you do. Pavle
The Dutch were the first foreign country to recognize and salute our flag when our ships entered their harbors.
This is good to know! I can't wait to visit Nederland again.
I read about it in "The Fist Salute" by Barbara Tuchman, highly recommended. The French, Dutch and English had kind of a weird "menage a tois" going on in the 16th-17th century. The Founders (Adams & Franklin) did a masterful job playing off this history.
+Tom Richey and that case be sure to visit the original tomb of Willim of Orange in the Nieuwekerk in Delft
No the thirth but it's ok
and the Dutch financed the war against the British.
great content!!
I can listen to you ALL day long.
It's very interesting to hear an outside perspective on this. I hope you'll do a video on the 80 years (and the partly simultaneous 30 years war).
Will you still be doing the other videos on the Dutch Republic? Really enjoyed this one!
Good stuff!
In the Dutch language when the n and the g or the n and the k are next to each other, we pronounce it the same way as you do.
For the part where the dog lies at his feet: people found it strange to look at people's soles, especially those of revered individuals, so usually they put a pillow or small dog there to counter this.
Missed the class on the dutch revolt you saved me cause the things i found on the internet was not that clear. ^^ thanks a lot!
Nice video :D.
I happen to be Dutch and found this very informative. I am looking forward to your future videos on the Dutch Republic.
if you want to go in this neck deep..i recommend DEFRAGGED HISTORY ( history from beginning to end and al in between)
@@foetsie85 Goeie shit.
@@OgrimMetal graag gedaan
Was there religious differences or policies between different Dutch provinces and how did think effect the stadholder?
Thanks for your videos! I am brand new at teaching AP Euro and these are a great source to reinforce what we do in class. Just curious..are you still planning on making more Dutch Republic videos?
Could you make a video about Michiel de Ruyter? It's such a fascinating figure in ouer history!
greetings From The Netherlands!
Brabant heeft nooit een stadhouder gehad! :) wel een "hoofstadhouder" van de replubliek maar geen stadhouder van de provincie zelf.
Mischien moeten we toch maar weer terug naar ons meer dan 900 jaar oude katholieke Hertogdom!!
Hope you enjoyed your stay in our country! Naturally I am a bit biased, but of course I'd love more videos on the Dutch Republic.
Great Video! I've always been interested in the Netherlands.
Thanks for the kind words! Looking forward to making some more videos on similar topics.
+Matt Barrett .... Sad that it is becoming The Islamic Republic of the Netherlands ; |
Very interesting lecture! You pronouncing Dutch words is rather amusing to be honest. Even though we get taught a lot about William of Orange and the kings of the Netherlands but not much about the Stadhouders. So thank you for clarifying their functions.
This guy has such a pleasing voice to listen to
This is very informative, even for me as a dutchie. Greetings from Gggggroningen
Sure, bring a bike! :-)
Hallo Gary, groetjes! :-)
Gary Daniel haha, what? Zwarte piet has left with Sinterklaas already on dec. 6. We now preparing for his brothers visit Santaclaus. And i have enough salt lying around. You can have that coal if you want to
Looking forward to those lectures. Great video, and a surprising good pronunciation of the Dutch language I might say. Orange is actually a small principality in the south of France which William's family owned.
So nice to hear this, as my pronunciation is often a matter of ridicule when it comes to my European History videos. I worked on my Nederlands quite a bit when I was in Leiden and Amsterdam in July, so there is one European language now that I can pronounce passably!
Fascinating twist of leadership in a Europe run by monarchy.👍 well done!
Gotta love that orange shirt, very appropriate :)
Interesting! But with so many small mistakes.
The biggest being that William of Orange united the Netherlands. Totally wrong. The Netherlands were united by the Dukes of Burgundy. The last Duchess Maria married Maximilian of Austria, Duke of Habsburg. Their son died young, and their grandson took charge when Maximilian got old, that was Charles V, Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, King of Spain, Duke of Habsburg, Duke of Burgundy etc.
He gave the Netherlands their own institutions and united the Provincial Staten (representatives) into the Staten General.
He made them a unity and fully independent from the Holy Roman Empire.
After the split up between the north and south (80 years war), each country continued the structure. Nowadays the institutes in Belgium are still similar to the ones in the Netherlands.
During the time of William of Orange the Seven United Provinces were looking for a new head of state. Several were tried, like the Duke of Anjou, the Duke of Lester, and more. Because they could not find one, they decided to go on as a republic. The Stadhouder represented a lord that didn't exist, and the Staten General were defacto the highest authority. The Orange-Nassau family was never asked to be Lord of the Netherlands!
The struggle between Orangists and Patriots was not about central gouvernment (unlike the USA) because both wanted this. It was about leadership, the Stadhouder (who was taking more and more power) or the Staten General.
This repeats itself during the 19th century when the Netherlands accepted an almost absolute King, who made a mess and lost half the country, and after 30 years we forced his son to sign a constitution in which he lost almost all power, the most liberal constitution at that time.
As a Dutchmen I think it is very nice to see the Netherlands being the focus of some lectures. I will be looking forward to upcoming lessons. I learned something new about my country's history today.!
The Netherlands being united for the first time by William of Orange. This is not completely true. It was sort of united by the Burgundians together with Belgium 150 years before William of orange. William of Orange is seen as the founder now. However his conquest was also a civil war rather then just a rebellion. Also I think his humble portrayal can be attributed for a large part to Calvinist ideas.
+Stef Verdonk I really enjoyed my time in Nederland this summer and plan to make a few more lectures focusing on Dutch history. It was really cool seeing William of Orange's chapel at the Prinsenhof. Very simple. Very Calvinist.
+Tom Richey I think there are some nice topics to choose from: William I & III, Johan de Witt, the 'waterschap' system and the fight against water, the 'waterlinie' defences, Tulipmania, etc.
Thank you! Terrific essay on the stadtholdership. How about one on the past riches of Flanders?
Love your videos bro. Are you interested in making a video about the 7 years war?
Brabant heeft nooit een stadhouder gehad! :) wel een "hoofstadhouder" van de replubliek maar geen stadhouder van de provincie zelf.
Mischien moeten we toch maar weer terug naar ons meer dan 900 jaar oude katholieke Hertogdom!!
You have informed yourself very well. You can see a part of this history in the movie The Admiral (Admiral Michiel the Ruyter). Its on youtube with English subs.
thank you for this video i was sick when we learned about this in history class
So let me paraphrase/simplify
The Stadthoulder is essentially a man put in charge by the nobles
While the aristocracy "elected" these men, they COULD be hereditary, BUT only if the other nobles agree to pass it down the man's family line
So, like the Holy roman Empire? Constantly going to the pope to be made emperor, the descendants would have to keep going to the noble for the title
Right?
Feels like i left out a lot, but this was all i could do
Dear Tom, your attempts at pronounciating our language correctly are adorable, and not even too bad for someone who isn't exposed intensively to our weird sounds to be honest. Ring is actually pronounced just like the English ring (although our r might roll a little more). I really enjoy hearing you talk about the history of my fatherland. Hope maybe to be learning something new as well in future episodes.
The funny thing about oranges is that the Dutch name for it (sinaasappels) is in my opinion a better description of the thing than the English name, merely referring to it's colour. The Dutch sinaasappel can be derived to mean Chinese apple, referring to it originating from China. Actually this is the case in more Indo-European languages.
Keep up the nice videos!
Owh... and PS: if you are going to talk about the Dutch Revolt (we call it 80 years WAR and would not usually refer to it as a revolt) - which I presume you will - it might be interesting to think about how the Dutch revolution could have been a model for the now famous French revolution. There is a reason for the colours of the French flag ;)
+JuanHans The colors of the French flag were actually based on the colors of Paris, with the white representing the proposed ceremonial monarchy which was supposed to be a part of it. But yes, the Dutch flag predates the French flag.
+Spartiatai300 I'm aware there are several theories about this. I should look into my sources again to position my argument better. Still the Dutch flag is the oldest tricolour in existence. That's of course no argument for stating all tricolours derive from this first one. But I find the Parisian origin very odd, mainly because it's said to be the Parisian red and blue, mixed with the Royal white colour. Besides the strange mixing with royal white colours in a mainly anti-monarchy revolution, also parsimony makes me lean towards a Dutch inspiration for the colours. Still I'm the last person to have any final words in this interesting point of discussion.
'In de ban van de Ring' is the name of the Lord of the Rings, not just the first part, The Fellowship. 'In de ban van de Ring' means literally, 'In thrall/under the spell of the Ring'. The Steward of Gondor is translated into 'Stadhouder van Gondor'.
Great video... one thing I never realized is that Stadtholder and instead are related words. Stad means city in Dutch, but the origin of the word (old Germanic) is location or place. Just like instead means in someone's (or something) place. Which comes back to the word stadtholder, which is someone who rules in someones stead... or stad.. or city... Amsterdam...Gondor.
Can you do the Italian unification ?
2:24 You picked the ng sound where the grhgrhgrg sound is more similar to the english ring
I'm Dutch and I learned a lot from this. That says a lot about our education system...
Just for your info: 'Ring' is pronounced in Dutch just as it is in English, except that the 'r' is somewhat rolled.
Maybe you could also tell something about the 'akte van Verlatinghe', the big inspiration the declaration of independence.. We don't celebrate that one while you celebrate the fourth of July every year. I think you are right.
Anyway I don't always agree with you but I do like your lessons very much.
Actually, your first pronounciation of the word 'ring', with the soft sounding "ng" was correct. It sounds just like the english word "ring".
Also, that 'fancy thing around the neck' was, I believe, meant for catching fleas, which were very common in medieval times. Not sure, but I read it somewhere.
As Tom said, the stadhouder is a quasi-monarchial head of state, or in this case, head of the either the confederate Dutch Republic or of a particular Dutch province - only after the Orangist usurpation after the Rampjaar did it become fixed (again as he said). His counterpart as head of government would be the raadspensionaris (grand pensionary), a quasi-prime minister that heads the dominant faction (Prinsgezinden/Orangist vs. Staatsgezinden/Statist).
And about the dog, most paintings made in this era used the dog as symbolism for "loyalty" (German: Vertrauen; Dutch: vertrouwen).
And about the "sinaasappel:" it literally means "Chinese apples." Back then Europeans called almost all edible plant produce "apples:" potatoes were perhaps the best known as "aardappel" in Dutch, "Erdäpfel" in Austrian German, and "Härdäpfel" in Swiss German (note that the Standard German word is "Kartoffel"). Back then they thought that oranges were just "apples that grew in the Orient," brought to the continent through trade (Silk Road and the sea routes). Therefore, their conclusion. (Vsauce had a video about this as well.)
very nice video. hope to see new vids about the netherlands soon.
by the way, they are celebrating 200 years of monarchy today
greetings from Brabant (one of the southern provinces of the netherlands)
Brabant heeft nooit een Stadhouder gehad!! :), wel een "hoofstadhouder" van de replubliek maar er was geen provincie stadhouder in Brabant.
Mischien moeten we toch maar terug naar ons Hertog-dom!
Brabant heeft nooit een stadhouder gehad! :) wel een "hoofstadhouder" van de replubliek maar geen stadhouder van de provincie zelf.
Mischien moeten we toch maar weer terug naar ons meer dan 900 jaar oude katholieke Hertogdom!!
F*ck de monarchie van de oranjes! Harba lorifa! we hebben de oudste vlag en wapen van heel de Nederlanden!
Is this the last video of this Unit or are there more to come?
Ng is the exception, ring is almost pronounced the same only the r is more like the Spanish rolling r
Love hearing foreigners teach about the history of our country. Stad (or stadt in Old Dutch) btw means city. So literally speaking a stadthouder translates to "city holder" however, the title of that is much more as it would suggest.
You said Overijsel Drenthe and Friesland. But Drenthe at the time wasn't recognized as by the States General cause it was so poor it was exempt from federal taxes so the the third one would be Groningen instead.
Yeah. Drenthe would literally just have been a bunch of peat fields and really poor Low-Saxon farmers back then. The oldest man in the family tree on my patriarchal line lived in Hoogeveen back when this was the case, born in the year 1600.
Brabant heeft nooit een stadhouder gehad! :) wel een "hoofstadhouder" van de replubliek maar geen stadhouder van de provincie zelf.
Mischien moeten we toch maar weer terug naar ons meer dan 900 jaar oude katholieke Hertogdom!!
How about considering the linguistics behind the Dutch title stad.houder as a a calque (literal translation) of the French lieu.tenant? Both words preserve the notion that sons of nobility were those who were trained as military defenders (houders - tenants) of a territory (stad - lieu). Interestingly in the Low Countries during this war-torn time, each province chose their own territorial defender (stadhouder), invariably from the one noble family (the House of Orange-Nassau). Over time the male head of this family was unanimously chosen by all jurisdictions, arguably seen as a preparatory stage for making the Dutch Republic into a Dutch Kingdom after the Napoleonic wars.
series?
While you would say the word RING in the Dutch language the same as in English, but there are always exceptions:
The word INGANG (translated in english to Entrance) is spoken in Dutch as IN-GANG with the first G spoken the gutteral way you did, but the NG on the end the same as the NG in RING.
just pronounce :
in the ban van the ring , and there you are !
love your video's
Tom, ng is a digraph in dutch and makes the same sound basically as it does in english. That nasally thing you hear in words like king. Nice attempt on the pronunciation of dutch in general though, I was surprised you dared to attempt a dutch pronunciation of Utrecht.
Also stad-holder is a loan translation of (loco-)teniente and lieu-tenant.
Erm as a Dutchy; stad in German is something like replacement, in modern Dutch it means City. Therefore a city holder can hold 1 or more cities. So the Explanation could be much simplified knowing that
Being Dutch I have never understood what a stadtholder was until now. Thanks!
Brabant heeft nooit een stadhouder gehad! :) wel een "hoofstadhouder" van de replubliek maar geen stadhouder van de provincie zelf.
Mischien moeten we toch maar weer terug naar ons meer dan 900 jaar oude katholieke Hertogdom!!
me, still waiting for the sequel of this video
Really interested in the Dutch Republic. After this series can you do one on the Austrian Empire? :)
It's not on my list for the near future - plan to make a lot more U.S. History videos - but I will keep this idea in mind!
Thanks that's all I ask haha :)
Nice video. Did you wear the orange shirt on purpose?
Yours sincerely,
A future Dutch historian
+Historia Batavorvm I SO DID! Glad someone noticed.
No, in Dutch "ring" is pronounced pretty much the same, except for the "rolling" r, a similar "r" used in French.
Stateholder is apointed by the duke of burgundy first. His Job was to protect the claim of is Lord, find allies , build a coalition of friends in the nobility under merchands in the flemish
Citys, collect taxes; promote trade and protect merchants from competitors , thievs , etc.
The king of france want to get controll of burgundy especialy the Lowlands . The Lowlands were are a Keystone of modern division of labor in a editorial system. Woll from England and Line from Flanders were made to Cloth and shifted to regions for collouring in the high burgundy states. So the money, fee and the taxes stream by trade down to the south to the treasury of the duke in Dijon and to the Pope in Avingnon. We see dependency of english woll , so the stateholder has a focus of what is good for the province and find a party of supporters in the province. The relation between the Duke , the Statehoudere , the states were fixed in the "grode Privilege" To be am memberstate of France means, to be cut of english woll. Mariages between Burgundy and the english, later, Katharina of Aragon and Henry VIII and Mary Tudor (blody Mary) wiht Philipp II of Spain, William III (Glorious Revolution) and Queen Mary based on trade interest against France.
The Reformation and Counterreformation of Leftwings and Rightwings positions of jesuit roman katholic and calvinistic reformed protestant where no compromise left. The fondation of good relation were destroyed in to a 80 Years War.
funny with the Orange thing only its that William was the Lorde of the place called Orange in France that where the name comes from
Hmm, no; Orange was a Princedom, while Nassau was a County. You had to be a Prince or a Duke (Hertog), or the royals of the time would not even talk to you. - Prins van Oranje, Graaf van Nassau. Even if Nassau was much richer and had more power than Orange, at least, Orange had an important title. Snobbish, but true lol.
Ring is pronounced the same in Dutch as in English. So no ringggggggg, just ring!
LOL Thanks! I'm always thankful when people help me to improve my Nederlands.
+Tom Richey You do roll the r, however.
+Edmeist0r The reason why is because the g is silent after an n.
Greetings from Curaçao!
The reason the Dutch clung on to the title and office of the Stadtholder was the fact that at first the Dutch Revolt didn't start as a revolt. Many nobles put together a letter addressed to king Philip II, who was the king of Spain at the time. In this letter, they politely requested for leniency towards the Protestant religion and also that the Spanish had enforced some rather harsh taxes, could they not be repealed? Philip responded by sending "The Iron Duke," Alva. He tried to suppress the 'rebellion' (because it wasn't a full fledged rebellion at that time) by installing a court which quickly got the nick name 'blood court' because it condemned thousands to death in only a few years' time. When fighting broke out, Alva tried to use terror to subdue the Dutch but the result was exactly the opposite: the more the Spanish used terror (wiping out a few small cities with all inhabitants), the more the Dutch movement grew into a full fledge rebellion/revolt. During that time, William of Orange had been called by his official title because the Dutch people (the richer citizens and nobles that is) thought he would still be able to make peace with the king and make the king relent on the taxes and persecution of Protestants. Even when the 'point of no return' was reached, after Philip had declared William an outlaw, offering a large sum of money for his death, the Dutch continued calling William Stadtholder (of the Spanish king!). But they also formally declared that they no longer regarded Philip II as their king and would he please call back his troops asap. Eventually, that 'asap' took 80 years.
Interesting, even for a dutchman. Good work.
I have extremely severe C-PTSD. I've been in an incurable depression downswing for 6 consecutive weeks. Your description of Dutch at 1:09 made me bust out loud laughing!
My DNA :
FROM MY MOM: Norwegian 16%, German 15%, Sweedish/Danish 12%, Welsh 5%, Finnish 1%
FROM MY DAD: Scottish 20%, Irish 15%, English 14%, French 2%,
And not ALL of us are illegitimate. 😂🤣😂
ring is almost pronounced exactly the same as in english, except we use the rolling R instead. (ng is one of the many exceptions we have).
We don't have folk heros similar to Americans. I guess most people know willem van oranje, but they would not know why.
The Dutch do have folk heroes, of sorts, but the average Dutch person doesn't really know as much about them as a Dutch person who lived, say, 200-300 years ago. Widukind, for example, the leader of the Saxons.
Fun to see an americans perspective on this, as a dutchman myself :)
So did the republic turn itself into a kingdom by decree or was it violent?
+HuntingTheEnd V.
It was settled when the Dutch regained independence from France.
So I assure peacefully. Thank you
Jeroen So I assume peacefully. Thank You
***** but did the people revolt to this decree or did they approve
The idea of a kingdom was: This Republic threat of France shall not spread anytime agaim. So the Big powers in Europe didn't want that the Republic would come back after Napoleon so they made the Netherlands, together with Belgium and Luxembourg, one Kingdom with the King who had the power.
'ng' - the diphthong - is pronounced exactly the same in Dutch as in English.
+Sander Bollen .... That is because both are Germanic.
+Tom Richey The Dutch language has a lot of dialects. People in Holland speak with the 'g' that sounds like a shovel scraping over the sidewalk. In the southern, more catholic parts (Brabant, Limburg and part of Guelders) and Flanders mostly use a soft G, as opposed to the hard G up north, which is more or less pronounced as gay (without using your throat).
Don't forget the Netherlands up until the end of the 80 years war the Netherlands comprised of the Netherlands and Belgium, William of Orange spend a lot of his early years in Brussels. We lost Belgium in 1648 (Peace of Münster), which went on to become the Spanish Netherlands and in 1711 the Austrian Netherlands.
4:55 The states are all mixed up and wrong, listed all seven to make it clear:
The Duchy of Guelders (Gelderland modern times)
The County of Holland
The County of Zeeland
The Episcopal Principality of Utrecht
The Lordship of Overijssel
The Lordship of Frisia EDIT:(Friesland modern times)
The Lordship of Groningen and Ommelanden.
Ommelanden(=surrounding lands)meant Drenthe because it was too small to be it's own. You can compare it to Wyoming and just say Wyoming is to be governed by it's neighbor.
These titles are still bestowed upon the monarch today, except those of Utrecht and Drenthe. This is a thorn in the eye of Holland, since Gelderland is a Duchy therefore must be mentioned before the Count of Holland.
1:02 well personaly i would translate it into city holder (since stad is dutch for city)
unfortunately the "stadt" in stadthouder, is based from the German "statt" (meaning "instead of")
My complements for your dutch "G". However ring in dutch is the same as ring in english
nederlanders hier in 2016?
+Daan Koenraadt yep
Nee wel 2017
In 2018 :D
Daan Koenraadt telt 2018 ook
Hierzo
Matey, "Dutch" ("Nederduits" translated into english "Netherish-Germanic") might be complicated, odd and even bear a horrible sound but it´s not a sort of mixture of german and english, it precedes both since it´s the old low frankish, meaning germanic language that was spoken westwards of the Rhine long before German existed as unified language and long before English could evolute and get standardized. On the other hand what is today ABN (Algemeen Beschaafd Nederlands) was based on the hollandic dialects since the actual source of the netherlandish language is Flemish, for Flanders was the most flourishing part of Europe, not to oversee that at the same time was the richest and most developed region of the Low Countries when Holland was a backwardish, poor and underdeveloped corner into the whole of it; that is to say long before those primitive provinces rose to the wolrd major player which they would became much later (due in large part to the belligerant presence of the Spaniards in "Kernland" Flanders and Brabant, specifically running down the powerhouse of the XVI Century-Antwerp, for it is not to forget that Amsterdam was nicknamed New-Antwerp for a while...).
If we could hear Charlemagne speak today in his mother language it would be pretty much the same idiom with a way softer vocalization similar to the flemish than to the "official" hollandic known, so full of those "GGGGHHHHH"-sounds and metallic inflections....
Hey hey now there !?
If anything , English is a mixture of germanic languages ( It is itself Germanic ) , a bit of French and some of UK ancient languages , not the other way around !!!
Especially when it comes to nautical terms used in english , I would think that at least 50% are of dutch origin .
RinGGGGGH.. Not really, more the other way around. It is pronounced the same as in English, but with a very distinct R at the beginning. We call it a rolling r. You will get it by keeping you tongue extended (not too much, just don't curl it up) and forming the r sound as much forward as possible, against your pallet (?). Now hold on to that sound a little longer than you are used to and you will have the rolling R as in RRing.
Not to criticize your video tom, but im dutch and for me the word stad means city, however the meaning of the word could have changed since stadhouder is a very old word
Hallo! I'm sure you are correct on the semantics. When you look at someone being the Stadhouder of Holland, Zeeland, and Utrecht, this is a regional thing rather than just a city. I'm honored that Nederlanders are watching this video!
+Prussia - i was talking about the dutch word stad which means city and in the video tom said it means stead and place which it doesnt in dutch but apparently it comes from the german word statt i didnt know that
+Tom Richey keep up the great work man, i love your videos
+Theiwillsurvive Guy Back then the (middle) Dutch word 'stad' had a broader meaning just a city. It could, and often would be used to refer to 'a place', in a more general sense.
+Theiwillsurvive Guy It doesn't quite come from the German words Statt. It shares roots with the German word, but in time started to mean city exclusively. As +Cas mentions, it had a broader meaning in middle and early modern Dutch. In het woord bedstee komt het deel -stee ook van die oorsprong (bedplaats dus).
i'm not sure they pronounce the "G" like that if it's at the end of the word. The history of the Dutch navy is really bizarre. For the longest time, they had five Admiralty Colleges controlling five separate navies. They didn't always act like they were allied. A ship under one Admiralty would sometimes have problems resupplying or refitting in ports that weren't within the Admiralty they represented. Many sailors in the Friesian Admiralty didn't speak Dutch. The navy and army were composed of Orangists yet both forces were financed by the States General. I refer to the Dutch Republic as the oxymoron of early modern European history.
those oranges are referred to as "appels van Oranje" in that context
Nice! I think the end of the Stadhoudership was not Napoleon , but initially the patriots. The patriots were a reactionary movement in favour of going back to the days of the republic and away from the stadhouders and the regents. The won, but then the brother of the wife of William V, who happened to be the king of Prussia, came to the rescue and the patriots fled to France. When the revolution happened there the patriots came back together with revolutionary Frenchmen and chased William V to England. We then couldn't get rid of the French anymore, so when the French revolution took a wrong turn and produced Napoleon, we got him too, or his brother Lodewijk Napoleon as the first king of the Netherlands. When the house of Orange returned from England after Napoleon, the house of Orange was installed as hereditairy kings after English example.
the "ring" G is the same in dutch as in english
just because there is a letter G does not mean it makes the G sound, there is an N right in front of it so it makes the NG sound.
obviously.
Funnily enough, we don't pronounce the G like that if it comes after an N, in which case it would be the same pronunciation english ring
14:02 --- Napoleon wasn't involved in that, he didn't call the shots yet. It was just the Revolutionary Army's doing, they needed traderoutes and lower interest rates on their Dutch loans. And revolutionary sentiment in the Dutch Republic was relatively large at the time. There was a large liberal uprising in the Dutch Republic, put down by Prussian forces, a couple of years prior to the French Revolution, and a lot of political refugees from that revolt accompanied the French when the Republic was occupied. And after the defeat of Napoleon, not many political voices in the Netherlands wanted to actively reverse French reforms. In short: a lot of Dutch people felt indifferent at worst to the French annexation. You could say they felt somewhat eager for something new
Just a little thing- The title says "Wat is een Stadtholder" but the correct German grammar is "Was ist ein Stadtholder"
I took German for two years so I thought It was cool but funny that I picked up on this lol
It might be interesting for people to know that Charles V gave William I his job as Stadholder.
One of the reasons the Orange-Nassau was so pivotal was because of its status as a 'prince', and therefore eligible for Royal marriages, which cemented alliances between countries. This was prevalent in the alliance between England & the Netherlands, and also with Prussia and minor German principalities.
The Oranje-Nassau family's significance cannot be seen apart from the monarchies surrounding the Netherlands.
I have not seen the video yet but according to my Scandinavian language a "Statholder" is a steward of a realm. The head of Goverment but not head of state. I think ;)
Make more about the dutch
And Frysian the second official Dutch language gave birth to English, so English is the Benjamin of all Germanic languages!
That is wrong on so many levels...