Upgrading the DPMS Oracle with Luth-AR Bling
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- Опубліковано 1 лис 2020
- In this episode of Gun Stock Reviews, we are taking a basic DPMS Oracle 5.56 Carbine, which is a superb budget minded carbine, and we are doing all the cool upgrades with Luth-AR accessories with the help of The Robar Companies in Phoenix, AZ, the best way to make a good carbine even better!!
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Glad I found this video. I’m letting the shop do this for me
Find a good gunsmith to do the work for you if you're not familiar with the way this system works!!
Bought the Oracle cheap at a pawn shop a couple of years ago as a project rifle. Previous owner buggered up the scope but I could tell it hadn't been fired much. It's been a fun tinker toy to upgrade. Surprisingly accurate for a cheap carbine too.
It is a very accurate carbine and serves as a GREAT platform to custom work!!
Wow thanks guys for the detailed explanation. Very helpful!
Our pleasure, glad you liked it!!
perfect video. covered everything i needed to know for changing out handguards
Happy that you liked the Video and it was useful!! Thanks for watching!!
Thanks for the response. I'm doing my switch this Wednesday and will be using your vid as a guide. Thanks again. Followed!
@@Belows682 I wish you good luck!! Did you get a Torque Wrench?? Or are you doing it by feel?
Great video! Very informative !
Thanks for watching!!
Great video buddy!
Thanks Gerry!!
I added the $500.00 I.R. night vision Cabelas scope to mine and the Predator Tactics 860nm 2000 mw I.R. illuminator to get it out to 800 meters.
Mine shoots EITHER .223 OR the 5.56x45mm ammo.
LOL, I love it when folks go all out with custom goodies on their rifles!! They are Lego kits for Grown-Ups
Got the same rifle thanks. I'm going to copy your set up.
This is a great setup, you can't miss with Luth-AR Parts...
@@yrsued can you send me the link to the barrel nut, gas tube and hand guard?
@@driver868 This platform won't allow it, but hit me up on Instagram or FaceBook
For the Handguard comes with the Barrel Nut, I would suggest you get the Gas Block and Gas Tube, the original Aluminum Gas Block SUCKS!!
great vid.
Thanks!!
@@yrsued You're welcome and keep up the good work brother.
@@mizrahimsephardi5214 I appreciate your comments and stay tuned for more!!
I have a dpms and haven't seen this detailed info yet. Thank you, it needs a new handguard lol, mine rattles
The Luth-AR Handguard is great!!
I took my DPMS apart and upgraded it. I'll stack it up against anyone's rifle now.
I free floated my barrel using a Brownells handguard, am Odin Works tunable stainless gas block, went with a Geissele Airborne charging handle, Geiselle BCG, SSA-E trigger, Magpul MOE+ grip, VG6 Precision Epsilon brake and a Holosun red dot.
I have an Aimpoint PRO on another AR, but the Holosun is lighter and has been great thus far.
Don't let anyone knock DPMS's 4140 unlined barrel. It may not last as long as a chrome lined milspec barrel, but it's more accurate and will last more than long enough for the average shooter
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I stupidly lost the password. I love any assistance you can offer me!
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@Zev Roy thanks so much for your reply. I found the site on google and Im trying it out now.
I see it takes quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
Great video!! Going to change mine out too. You got a video on doing the stock and hand grip? I've had my oracle for like 6 years and only shot it like 5 times.
I did the Stock and Handgrip sometime ago, it is on the channel, I might do it again.
Great information. I want to do this to my S&W M&P Sport II
Yessir im about to do the same for mine
You can do this to ANY AR, but for your Sport 2, you will probably need to order the Gas Block and remove the Front Sight!!
You might need a low profile gas block . For your free floating hand guard . My hand guard is coming Wednesday
@@Tetristactical thank you. I've been looking at one from STNGR USA and it comes with one. Good luck with yours
I’d do it myself but do you think my local gun shop can do it for me with the right equipment? If so how much is a good price?
Skills..❤️
Marty does have that
I want to do this to my dpms LR-308 but I Can’t find the free float guard for it
Depends, Gen 1 or GII???
You have link to all upgrades I can’t seem to find barrel nut
The Barrel Nut comes with the Handguard, no need to buy it by itself and you can ONLY use it with the Luth-AR hand guard, so it's useless by buy it by itself, it's a dedicated part.
My stock rear cross pin stake hole was right in alignment with the rear set screw , so it would have been useless, I thought it would be better to take my die grinder and trim down the cast steel A2 sight making it a gas block and reuse the original cross pin stakes much less chance of any movement . Having only one good screw dimple in I felt wouldn't be near as reliable .
Your gun, your choice!! I liked the one I used, and that was over 2 years ago!!
Can you please provide BOM of parts purchased and from where. Much appreciated! Great Video
Sorry, I can't, this Platform WILL NOT allow it and will delete the comment, I have done it in the past and it won't work!!
Simply go to the Luth-AR Website simply search for the following:
Palm Handguard, Gas Tube (Depends on the rifle you have), Gas Block (Depends on the rifle you have), MBA Stock (Depends on the rifle you have), Chubby Grip, "The Switch" Selector and "The Paddle" Bolt Stop/Releasse.
Ahh understand! Thanks for responding!
HI, Great video!. Could please provide which Armors wrench was used. Thanks!
Do you mean the one to take the Barrel Nut out? The Tru-Glo Armorers tool.
Yes, the barrel nut. Thanks for responding!
@@garymeeks1681 I had to watch the video, I forgot what tools we used.
Hahaha got an anti-gun ad
Watch the ads, it’s fun when anti gun people make me money!!!
I love it when I get ironic adds
Is the buffer tube mil spec or commercial on the dpms oracle?
Back then, when they were made, it was Commercial, I left it Commercial because the Luth AR Stocks fit both with a little adjustment Screw
I have a areo precision upper11.5 inches but the hand rail is non inches and just falls short of where my support hand lands I wanna change it but I’m not sure if the one I want will be compatible with my upper can anyone help me with this?
Luth AR makes a 9" Palm Handguard, which would be more useful for an 11.5" Barrel, this one is for a 16" Barrel, because this handguard shown here is 15" in length.
Will this be the same process for the dpms sportical? What is the link for this floating rail
I think the only difference between the oracle and sportacle is the forward assist so I don't see why it wouldn't be the same process.
Process is the same, the Sporticle has the Thick Cast Receiver!!
I have that gun only added a magpul front sight and magpul moe handguard and Fore end handle grip and reflex red dot rear sight and a m7 bayonet found a clamp on bayonet lug for it to hold my original Milpar ‘
M7
We wanted to upgrade to a floating 15" hand guard, but that was our choice!!
@@yrsued to each his own build I’ll have a how to video soon about putting a bayonet on this gun as we don’t have the a2 front sight
@@joshuasutton4043 Good idea for a video. That is the truth, these rifles lend themselves to custom Mods, you do what you like, I do what I like!!!
@@yrsued yes that the way to do it I just have a super nice old Vietnam era m7 same year as my dad served that was battle used that I want on there
@@joshuasutton4043 WOW, that is great, I have a couple of M7's here, I love them!!
I like the railed gas block , what is that one specifically called
LOL< we call it the one NOBODY liked... I think I have a couple of them kicking around somewhere. They were made of Aluminum and they never fit well and wore out faster.
Is there a grip that’s available to attach to the bottom of the rail such as an angled fore grip?
Do you mean is there attaching points to the Bottom of the Handguard? Yes, the MLok has MLok on the bottom and the KeyMod has KeyMod on the bottom
@@yrsued thank you, I just ordered my parts from LuthAR.
@@aaron5961 Cool, they will ship soon, I got an order from them just this past week.
@@yrsued I just assembled my Luth AR parts, now I’m gonna go to the range and do some tactical shooting.
@@aaron5961 Have fun with your rifle, I love mine!!
Can you provide any info on the gas block you used for this upgrade. I've seen different diameter blocks, and I'm not sure how much of a difference that makes. Thank you.
OK, The Gas Block Diameter depends on "YOUR" Barrel, the standard barrel is .750", most Bull Barrels are .920"-.936" and some pencil barrels are smaller, but I have personally never seen one. I used the .750" Low Profile Gas Block, because that is the one that fit my barrel correctly!!
@@yrsued Thank you so much, Yamil.
@@artapolinar729 My pleasure.
@@yrsued Do you remember which gas tube you bought for the Oracle?
@@yrsued Does the gas tube have to be changed or can you use the old one?
And another channel I’m not getting notifications for! Damn UA-cam! It’s all gun/2A channels too! Shows up in my notifications list, but I don’t get notifications on my phone for them past couple days.
I haven't received a single notification in over two months, on ANY channel!!
They'll all be gone soon. Watch. Get what you want now.
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Has anyone else had trouble changing the grip out on these? I don’t know if I’m doing something completely wrong, not getting the screw going back in at just right angle or what. But I can tell that if I didn’t already strip the threads i just would have if I kept trying .
@Remington Steel yes and no. I didn’t figure it out myself but i had a couple other parts that was already planning on having swapped out by someone that actually knew what they were doing so I just had them do it. But the grip I went with didn’t fit so I just had them put the factory grip back on.
no issues with my rifle. Get a tap and chase ur threads.
When you use a torque wrench with a crowfoot it has to be 90° to center line or you will be over torquing! With the crowfoot extended to the front you've extend your torque wrench length!
THAT is a question for Marty, I will forward this question to him and have him answer it correctly!!
@@yrsued when
@@sundial6919 When what?
Not if the connection to the nut is 12 inces away from where it's metered as this torque wrench is.
Stupid comment.
What kind of barrel nut did you use
The factory barrel, the pencil barrel it comes with!! It is good enough for casual plinking and self defense training!!
The barrel nut comes with the new handguard, all of them do.
Can anyone tell me the length or the gas tube and the size or the gas block? This is exactly what ive whated to do to my dpms oracle
Gas block is a standard .750” gas block and a carbine length gas tube
@yrsued thank u...I've got one I keep with me in the sxs and I've found it to be more accurate than my others so I'm gonna make it look like the one in ur thumbnail...thanks for the video and I've sent them a message telling them I wanted the setup just like ur video and they knew exactly what I was talking about...thank u
@@justinmarbut4331 YUP, the guys at Luth-AR are very good friends, they are aware of all my projects for the channel
What size of the hand guard?
Sorry for the delay, we used the 15" handguard!!
Can you post links to all the products you installed?
Sorry, I can't, every time I do, this platform deletes the post,
It is simple to find, honestly, not that hard!! Go to the Luth-AR web site and pick the products!! I described everything I have used!!
Need ro replace that trigger
When se shot this video, Luth-AR didn't have the MTA yet
Where can I find an Oracal manual. Recived one tester. I’m lost
I might have one or two kicking around. What do you need to know?? Maybe we can help you.
@@yrsued thank you
@@johnezell953 Let us know, we can help!! We will even do a Video with your questions.
@@yrsued I was just wondering if you had a copy I could purchase or one I could download and print? I didn’t get one at all.
@@johnezell953 FYI, The Oracle didn't ship with a specific Manual for the rifle, but a generic AR Manual, let me go look and I will get back to you ASAP
Could you give a estimate how much this would cost?
I don't post prices here, but you can go to the Luth-AR site and add things up. Prices change and sometimes there are offers available.
If you have to ask you can't afford it
@@rickyfitness252 this is not that expensive, we just don't post prices here, it's not hard to look on their website and check prices!!
@@yrsued I hear you my dude. I'm just s*** posting. But my statement still stands..
@@rickyfitness252 I understand!!
My hand grip has a hex screw in it
Yes, there's some models out there that have a Hex Screw, that is very normal!! I have both in my parts box!!
I just bought some hex wrenches for it
@@warrenross56 Get the Long "T" Handle ones, those are the best, I got my set at ACE Hardware!!
@@yrsued i went to harbor freight and home depot
@@warrenross56 They should have them, if not, try ACE or True Value!!
Where can I get the parts?
Luth-AR website, we can't put links here
Is this chambered for 5.56/223 or 308?
The one we built here was a 5.56 model.. To this day, my favorite rifle!!
@@yrsued I have this rifle as well. It’s a very inexpensive rifle and fun to play with. I’m looking at doing some of these upgrades to mine.
@@roberthughes3204 This is a great rifle for the money and these upgrades make it even more fun to shoot!!
@@yrsued Are these hand guards capable of having some kind for grip installed?
@@roberthughes3204 What do you mean by Grip?? These hand guards are MLOK, so you can add any MLOK attachment. There's three NMLOK attachments slots on the bottom front of the Hand Guard. There's a KeyMod version and one version with no attachment points at all.
Maybe you can make a precision Test. I have also in Germany a cosutm dpms Oracle
I can do an accuracy test, I have a couple of these I can compare!!
Sorry, I can't post the parts used on this project. This Platform WILL NOT allow it and will delete the comment, I have done it in the past and it won't work!!
Simply go to the Luth-AR Website simply search for the following:
15" Palm Handguard, Gas Tube (Depends on the rifle you have), Gas Block (Depends on the rifle you have), MBA Stock (Depends on the rifle you have), Chubby Grip, "The Switch" Selector and "The Paddle" Bolt Stop/Releasse.
I understand that the platform is blocking damn near everything, can you comment on the length of the hand guard? It looks 15 inches, but looks great!
@@nickmartinez8067 Yes, this is the 15" Handguard, at the time of the Video, they didn't make any other length, just 15"
I like how all the bolts, flash hider and barrel nut were not remotely close to being tight.
Not at all, they were prepped for the Video, we didn't know how tight things were done at the factory and this rifle was reconstructed back to basic configuration for this video.
Isnt this like a $500 rifle?
@@jacobsmokez Before the recent events and nonsense, this rifle sold between $350-$400. Now, after the Remington Bankruptcy and Split up, it's no longer made and it's VERY hard to find!! IMHO, this was a superb purchase!!
@@jacobsmokez I have one I’ll sell you for $800
With upgraded trigger and rails
I feel like if you're gonna do all that, just buy a new upper and keep the original one for parts.
Why?? The Oracle was specifically made for you to do this!!
I would do exactly that
@@yrsued because the Oracle doesn’t even have a chrome lined barrel
@@4doorsmorewhores651 AAAAAAAAND?? When it came out, this rifle sold for under $400. It is a starter rifle!!
But I'm willing to bet that if you give this rifle to a good rifle shooter, he or she would do great with it!!
You can give me Eddie Van Halen's FrankenStrat and I would make horrible sounds!!
But you can give me a used $100 Nikon D40 and I can do an Image that can be used on any Magazine!! Why?? Because it's not the Bow, it's the Indian!!
You make that look too easy.
Swapped mine Quad out for a Floater and muzzle brake took the Gunsmith 10 mins max. But the Guy had the proper stuff thats what made it so easy
All you need is the knowledge and the tools!!
@@malcomscott8742 All you need is the knowledge and the tools!!
How many times did he say RIGHT
DUDE... Going to be hard to hit anything with no sights...!
What gave you the idea that I didn’t put a RDS in another Video????
NOTHING, you typed before watching other videos.
Let's be honest. The screws and whatnot were pre-loosened for this video. Look at the brake....the threads have no crud on them, they look pristine. The gas block screws came undone and the block slid off easily. That doesn't happen once a few boxes of ammo are put through the rifle. Great video though.
Yes, they were!! We didn't want any surprises, like stripped screws and damaged parts!! Everything was staged for the video, those aluminum gas blocks that shipped with the Oracle were NOT exactly high end and sometimes the threads would strip and even jam shut and you couldn't get the stupid thing out. We prepped the rifle ahead of time. those issues are no longer valid, DPMS doesn't exist at the moment and who knows when or how it will come back. The new owners after the Remington Bankruptcy haven't done a thing with any of the brands they purchased.
Got any part numbers
I can't post that information on this platform, just to to the Luth-AR dot COM site and their site is REALLY easy to navigate!!
Why downgrade the stock?
Did you watch this video at all?? Pray tell everyone how putting a a solid milled from extrusion floating aluminum handguard is a downgrade from an M4 carbine setup?? Please teach me!!!
That stock butt will punish you when you first start shooting the gun
There is a difference between 30 inch pounds and 30 foot pounds which is it
Yes, there is?? Are you asking what the difference is??
In the video you say 30 inch pounds but then you say 30 foot pounds just asking. I have a DPMS and I am going to be doing the same thing with it as you did
@@MarioGarcia-th5fx It must have been a mistake, this video was shot almost 5 years ago, so I don't remember. Marty was talking so I don't know.
30 FOOT LBS...! NOT INCH LBS...!
Verbal typo.... and he CORRECTED HIMSELF!!! But you are perfect and you NEVER misspeak, right??
The flash hider cost more than the gun
Nope, but you can buy ANY hider you want, it is America after all
You took a lite weight ar15 and took it from 7 lbs to 30
You must live in a different galaxy where aluminum is heavier!!
Sorry buttt ak 47 is way 100 more better
It all depends, I have both. The AR is easier to build!!
I came here to see you put the MBA-3 stock on. Your after picture is deceptive. Thanks for nothing.
DOES THE TITLE SAY I'm installing the MBA-3??? ANYWHERE???
Do you need someone to teach you how to install an MBA-3?
If so, there is a Video that shows how to do that.
DO you need a link?
I disliked it because it doesn't look like the display that you have up.
What doesn't look like the display?? Do you mean the Thumbnail?? It's the same stock, I just took the Cheek Riser and the But extension off. This is why it's called the MBA as in MODULAR BUTSTOCK ASSEMBLY!! Oh, I added a new Brake, not a big deal, except to you I guess/
@@yrsued okay I get it I just liked the thumbnail just too see how it looks only because I'm trying to figure out how I want to make my AR didn't mean to offend you not what I meant to do that's why I don't like texting. Hey still a nice looking AR 👌
@@acceleration215 This thumbnail was done in a Photoshoot I did or the manufacturer, Luth-AR, when I built the gun, I did a couple of things different because I didn't need the extra Adjustable parts on the MBA-3, so I went with an MBA-4, which is a simplified version of the MBA-3. I used the surefire Brake because it's my favorite. I didn't feel like making a new photo for this, so I used the one I had.
It was better before.
Your choice, this is my gun, my choice
Before looks better
Sure, if that is what you like, great!!! Heck, if you need Aluminum Gas Blocks, I got a pile of them!!
@@yrsued jeje I love how that classic handguard looks like
@@kairoward7738 Sure, but when I use the USGI Handguard, I use a REAL and Reliable Front Sight or Gas Block, this Aluminum is crap and is meant to be replaced!!